1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology with 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff dot com. Hello again, everyone, 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: and welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: and I am an editor at how stuff works dot com. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: Sitting across from me, as he always does when we 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: record these podcasts, is senior writer Jonathan Strickland. When Dick 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Gibson was a little boy, he was not Dick Gibson. Uh. 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: And today we're going to sort of discuss one of 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: our favorite topics. But you're about to reveal longtime listeners 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: will know why this is going to be a difficult one. Yep, yep, yep. 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: First of all, this comes to us courtesy of a 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: little Facebook feedback. This comes from Arthur. He says, Hey, guys, 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: I was wondering if you could maybe do a podcast 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: on the Raspberry Hi computer PI PI. I love pie. 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 1: Pie is awesome. It's both the number and the food, 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: especially when the food in the number converge. Yes, because 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: it is in this case raspberry pie is spelled p 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: I like the number, but it has raspberry like the 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: delicious fruity filling that we all love. So yeah, and 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: it is not the next build of Android. No, no, 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: in fact, it's specifically not Android. But you know, Jonathan, 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: where you do you remember that the episode we recorded 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: not too long ago about Commodore sixty four. I do 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: recall such an episode. We're laughing to ourselves because in 26 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: recording time, we did that last week, so you know 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: that the episodes will be spaced out, so it's not 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: that close together anyway. But don't worry, We're already spaced 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: out enough as this absolutely. Now. One of the things 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: we touched on in the Commodore sixty four episode was 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: that this was that machine sold a lot of of 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: uh computers to a lot of people. And one of 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: the things that people did with those, especially young people, 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: and it was fun to create your own programs, to 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: learn exactly how programming works. In fact, the Commodore sixty 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: four was the best selling computer of all time if 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: you look at a very specific model of computer. Yes, 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: so the Commodore sixty four sold I think it was 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: seventeen million units, which was pretty incredible for a single device, 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: especially given the the time at which it was sold 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: and uh um, the price at which it sold. Uh, 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: that was not the heyday of computing, but it's really 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: sort of started the whole snowball rolling. And for a 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: lot of people, uh, people who create your favorite software 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: games and other programs. Uh, a lot of them sort 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: of cut their teeth on the Commodore sixty four not 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: which was literally because those were really big, bulky, heavy machines. 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: I knew he was going to say that. Uh, no, 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: they were. They got their feet wet programming. Let's use 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: a different analogy yet, that which, by the way, I 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: do not recommend when you're using electrical device. I knew 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: he sin as I said. Okay, So actually the device 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about now, the Raspberry Pie, is created to 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: do really very much the same thing. Yeah. In fact, 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: there's a great backstory to this device. That's that's what 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: I think is the really compelling part of this. Yeah. 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the device itself is awesome too, but the 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: reason behind it is is fantastic. So over in jolly 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: old England across the pond, and I promise I'm not 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: going to do my terrible fake English accent today, a 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: fellow by the name of even Upton, who worked in 62 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: admissions at Cambridge university and also would do lectures there. 63 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: He noticed a disturbing trend. Incoming students who are interested 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: in studying computer science seemed to be to have a 65 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: less of a grasp on the way computers work than 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: previous generations of students. So, in other words, as time 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: has gone on, people, the incoming classes seem to be 68 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: more ignorant of the way computers work than the previous class, which, 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, think that's odd because we're in a world 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: where computers are much more pervasive than they ever have 71 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: been before, to the point where you might have a 72 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: computer in your pants pocket, as a smartphone or a 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: tablet on your on your desk, or or even the 74 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: device you're listening to right now might very well be 75 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: considered a computer. Well at, computers are in lots of things. 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Computers are in your car and in your fridge and 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: in all sorts of other stuff. But the thing is, uh, 78 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: today's computers, the computer computer, the one that sits on 79 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: on your desktop or a laptop or desktop machine. Um, 80 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: those computers just work and do everything for you. Yeah. Yeah, 81 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: So back back when we're talking about the old Commodore 82 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: sixty four days, those were days where you're using UH 83 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: interface where it's all text based. You're typing stuff into 84 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: the computer to get it to do things, and people 85 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: were wondering, well, wait, how does this work? How does 86 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: how does what I type in translate into this action? 87 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: And how can I create my own programs knowing that 88 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: there's this one language I can use to build something 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: that that you know, when you execute a command it 90 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: does something kind of cool, and you've got a lot 91 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: of people getting into it and sort of a hobbyist level. Well, 92 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: those people when they would go to school, some of 93 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: them would say, you know, I loved tinkering with that stuff. 94 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: I want to learn more about it. This is what 95 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to pursue as a career, and they became 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: that generation of computer engineers and scientists. Well, the problem 97 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: is that we've got these devices that are now so 98 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: sophisticated and do so much for us that that level 99 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: of tinkering has been taken out. It's really hard to 100 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: tinker with a device that's running say a sophisticated graphics 101 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: UH graphic user interface. You know you can't. You're not 102 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: seeing the underlying programming that's making this all go, and 103 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: you might very well not have very much exposure to it. 104 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: And in fact, Upton's point was that he said that 105 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: the students he was encountering, most of them, had little 106 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: to no understanding of any programming. If they had anything, 107 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: it was HTML programming, which is not really programming ht 108 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: mls markup language. It changes the way stuff looks, but 109 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: it's not truly a programming language, right. You know, if 110 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: I may be permitted an analogy, I think it's sort 111 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: of like somebody going to say, you know what, I 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: want to become a mechanic, and somebody goes, okay, so 113 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: you have a car. What makes it go? Well? I 114 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: step on the gas and it makes it go. Yeah, 115 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: but what about the engine? What about the parts of 116 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: an engine? And they go, I don't, I don't know. 117 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: The gas makes it move forward. I know that I 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: put the groceries in the trunk and at the other 119 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: end there's something exactly. And that was that was Upton's point, 120 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: was that students only had a very superficial understanding of computers. 121 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: They had nothing. It's it seemed like it was getting 122 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: worse each year. Yeah. Now, I mean you you have 123 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: computers now, um that come with programming language is built 124 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: into the computer when you take it home and unwrap 125 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: it and take it out of the box, it's got 126 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: that stuff. But a lot of people don't even mess 127 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: with it. And he wanted um, he wanted people to 128 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: be able to get started programming in a very inexpensive way. Yeah, 129 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: and so he Upton realized, and it's this is all 130 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: stated on the Raspberry Pie Pie. It's it's stated on 131 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: their on their web page. So if you go to 132 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: the web page, you can actually read this whole story 133 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: that we're summarizing here. But Upton's point was that he 134 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: knows that access does not automatically solve a problem, no, right, 135 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: but that without access you can't solve a problem. And 136 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: so one of the things he thought would be important 137 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: is to try and create a very very low cost 138 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: computer that would give people the opportunity to really play 139 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: with programming in a way that hasn't been seen. It's 140 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: the days of the Common War sixty four and other 141 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: computers of that era. Yes, And so he set out 142 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: to try and create as an affordable a computer as possible. 143 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: This is essentially it's a nonprofit approach. It's a charity 144 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: approach to this, UM too, so that you could get 145 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: as many of them into schools and into private hands 146 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: as possible, so that people kids mostly could really get 147 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: their hands on some programming and perhaps this would inspire 148 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: the next generation of computer engineers. In fact, they're talking 149 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: about the possibility of a buy one, send one approach 150 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: in the future. Um. They as the time we're recording 151 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: this in January twelve, they just started manufacturing these devices, 152 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: probably within the last uh six to eight weeks from 153 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: what I understand, So they're still pretty new and if 154 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: you go to the shop, they are not actually in 155 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: the shop. The only thing that's in the shop right 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: now are stickers for keyboards. Um, so they might they 157 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: might send one later. A lot of the places like 158 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: a one laptop per Child do that where you can 159 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: can purchase a machine for someone else who may not 160 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: otherwise be able to afford one, and they will send 161 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: it out and help somebody get started, which I think 162 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: is is a nice idea. And Raspberry Pie does the 163 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: same thing where you can choose pie where you can 164 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: choose to actually send it to huh. You know, instead 165 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: of purchasing one for yourself, you just spend the money 166 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: in order for someone else to have this device. So 167 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: let's talk about what the device actually is. Well, the device, Um, 168 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: if you're looking for something, if you're one of those 169 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: people who looks at a computer and it just works, Uh, 170 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: this device maybe kind of mystifying to you because it 171 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: doesn't have a case. It looks like a circuit circuit board, 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: UM with stuff on it. Yep, it's it's kind of interesting. 173 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: It is. It is. It's the heart of a computer. 174 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: But it's a tiny, tiny size. Actually, I think I 175 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: have the the the diagram looks it looks like this. 176 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: I'll hold it up to the mic and you can 177 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: do you want to look at it at the Raspberry 178 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: Pie site right now, I was gonna I was gonna 179 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: actually give the out the measurements. Okay, eighty five point 180 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: six millimeters by fifty three point nine eight millimeters and 181 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: that's length and width that for. So it's it's tiny, Yeah, 182 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: it's it's about the size of a I don't know, 183 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: a smartphone, a fablet. Yeah, it's the slice you did 184 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: that just in my forehead. It's um, it's got, it's 185 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: got a few UM interfaces soldered onto the board. Um. 186 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: Of course, it's got. It's got a process or chip 187 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: a Broadcom b C M five ARM chip. It's seven 188 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: hundred mega hurts. It's not the fastest thing in the world. 189 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: But it does have an r C A video out, 190 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: an audio jack, UM USB too, an Ethernet jack on 191 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: one of the two. They have an A and and 192 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: B model UM. They have an h B H D 193 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: M I port, micro USB for power, and an SD 194 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: card slot. It also will work on batteries. Yes, four 195 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: double as I think is what it will work on. 196 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: But you can also use the micro USB and plug 197 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: in a cable and either plug that into another device 198 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: or into a wall to power it. So it's got 199 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: no monitor installed, though you can hook it up to one. 200 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: It's got um no, you know, it's got networking capabilities, 201 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: no WiFi. It weighs forty five grams or one tenth 202 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: of a pound. It does have a few L A 203 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: D s to tell you how it's working. Um and 204 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: UM yeah it's it's so essentially what you would do 205 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: with this thing is uh, let's say that you have 206 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: the Model A. Okay, so you would use an HD 207 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: M I out probably for you to go out to 208 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: a television or a monitor, and then you would use 209 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: a three and a half millimeter headphone jack. You would 210 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: plug your headphones and so you could get sound. Although 211 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: like with hdm I, that's gonna carry sound too, so 212 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: you can actually have sounds straight through the monitor if 213 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: your monitor has UM speakers in it, So if you're 214 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: using a television, you could just use the TV speakers. Uh. 215 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: You would also use a USB keyboard and plug that 216 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: into it, and then you've got your keyboard user interface. 217 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: If you want to have a mouse, then what you 218 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: would need to do is get a USB hub, plug 219 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: that into a keyboard. That right, what in which case 220 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the keyboard itself as a hub. Um. But anyway, you 221 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: gotta have a USB hub, possibly in the shape of 222 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: a keyboard, and then you can plug your mouse into that. 223 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: And the thing is that it doesn't have a hard 224 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: drive on it, but you could get a have a 225 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: clock on it either. Yeah, you can get an external 226 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: hard drive and and plug that into it if you 227 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: wanted to. Um, so you would have the using a 228 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: using a lot of existing technology. You might have to 229 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: actually go out and buy the keyboard. The funny thing 230 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: is the keyboard might actually cost more than the Raspberry Pie. 231 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: It depends on because yeah, the two models. The Model 232 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: A that has no Ethernet is twenty five dollars. The 233 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: model B that has eithernet is a Princely bringing the 234 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: Princely back. There was a Model T and you could 235 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: get it in any color as long as it's black. 236 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: But that's a Ford joke. So yeah, the two models. Uh, 237 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: that's incredibly affordable for a fully functional computer. And you 238 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: might wonder, well, what does this computer run? These are 239 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: designed to run uh, specific Linux distros. Yes, so we're 240 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: not talking Windows or the mac os or or even 241 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: certain Linux distributions like a Buntu do not work with 242 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: it yet. It doesn't run Android at the moment. Originally 243 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: it was going to run a Buntu, but then Buntu realized. 244 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: The people behind a bunt to realize that they were 245 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: not hitting their schedule properly, so they knew that they 246 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: were not gonna be able to build in support for 247 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: Raspberry Pie. Uh. They did at the top, it did 248 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: sound like that. It's something that Canonical, the company behind 249 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: one Too, and other distributions of Linux are are working on, 250 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: but it's not currently available. The specific ones that are 251 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: available at launch are Debian, Fedora, and arch Linux. Those 252 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: are the three that can work right at the top 253 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: of the as soon as it's ships and there have 254 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: been some beta once sent out already. It also sounded 255 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: like it's possible that they that that the makers of 256 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Raspberry Pie Pie would be willing to accept uh Android, 257 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: but they're not going to port it themselves somebody else. 258 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: If somebody else does it, they'll be cool with that. 259 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: But in other words, this this is a very open 260 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: source kind of approach where the community is going to 261 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: provide a lot of the actual content and functionality beyond 262 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: just the basics that that the foundation that has been 263 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: created to do this will will do. Also, the Model 264 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: A and Model B, I should mention they also have 265 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: different amounts of memory. Yes, a megabytes of memory. Model 266 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: B is two und fifty six megabytes of memory, and 267 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: uh I think I think the Model B actually has 268 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: two USB ports, which could be good because you could 269 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: plug in a WiFi dongle into uh you know, one 270 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: of the Raspberry Pie devices um to to give it 271 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: WiFi connectivity, but it's not built into the to the board. Yeah. Yeah, 272 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: That's the nice thing about USB, right is that there's 273 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: so many different peripherals that use that standard that can 274 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: really extend the functionality of any computer, but particularly for 275 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: something like this, where it's just a very creative approach 276 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: to solving this problem. So yeah, the whole goal here 277 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: is that you get this device in as many hands 278 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: as possible, and the Linux distros are designed in such 279 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: a way that that they do kind of harken back 280 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: to that common Wore sixty four day where it's it's 281 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: it requires a certain level of investment on the part 282 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: of the user to learn how the system works and 283 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: and to really kind of explore it. Um. And that's 284 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: the whole purpose of this is not you know, it's 285 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: not just that it's a cheap computer that can get 286 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: into the hands of people. That the ultimate purpose is 287 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: to inspire people to really look into programming and learn 288 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: more about it and and possibly become the next you know, 289 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: genius programmer. Um. And so mainly they're going to be 290 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: working with the Python programming language, but there are also 291 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: other languages supported, including Basic, although it's from what I 292 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: understand it's a form of Basic called BBC Basic. There's 293 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: also the C programming language and Perl. So um, there 294 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: will be other languages probably added in support will be 295 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: added in later. Uh and UH, it's any programming language 296 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: that the limitation is that the program gramming language has 297 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: to have support for Linux because that's the obering system 298 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: and for ARM processors. Yeah, because not every programming language 299 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: works with every processor. It's one of those tricky things 300 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: about computers is that you know, you've just when you 301 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: think you get it all figured out, you realize that 302 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: there's a hardware limitation. Yeah. But those those languages that 303 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned, for the most part, are process are neutral. 304 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean those those uh, you know, Python, C Pearl, 305 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: those are they're all you know, cross platform. Um. And 306 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: you might be saying, well, you know, you guys, that 307 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: sounds pretty cool and all, but uh, you know, for 308 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: the general public, why is that interesting? Well, for one thing, 309 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: it gives more people a chance to try out computer 310 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: programming inexpensively. I mean, this is something that if you've 311 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: always wanted to do, this could be a cool way 312 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: to get into uh uh to hacking and learning how 313 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: to write your own software and how computers work. This 314 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: is this is an inexpensive way to get your your 315 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: not your feet wet, you're you're you could dive into 316 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: you could try programming. But um, but yeah, there there's 317 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: also another audience. That again, the Raspberry Pie people are 318 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: not discouraging at all, And those are the people who 319 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: already know how to do this stuff but want to 320 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: try and making something else out of this little computer. 321 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: And of the things I've already seen them do is 322 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: messing with XMBC, which is a media center at an 323 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: open source media center. Um and uh it's available again. 324 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: This is cross platform you can build your own. Remember 325 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: now is a podcast from a long time ago, building 326 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: your own uh media media center. Um. But this and 327 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: this operating system works for existing machines Lennox, Windows, mac 328 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: os ten um works on all of them. But they've 329 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: seen XNBC running on a Raspberry Pie. Um. So the 330 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: question is what can makers do with this device. We 331 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: talked about the Arduino and the micro controller board. This 332 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: is another device like that, exactly in the way that 333 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: you can I would say, this is this is two computers, 334 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: is two circuits. Yes, so uh yeah, I've already heard 335 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: about people who are interested in robotics using this as 336 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: a component in in uh their next robot. I also 337 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: saw a video online of a guy who had created 338 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: a essentially what what it amounts to an Apple TV 339 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: using this where he could he could push video from 340 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: an iPad to a television through the raspberry pie pie. 341 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: So yeah, so, I mean they're the applications are numerous. 342 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: So and and the nice thing is at twenty five 343 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: or thirty five dollars a pop, it's a really affordable component. 344 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about hobbies that you know, hobbyists 345 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: in these areas are sometimes accustomed to spending multiple hundreds 346 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: of dollars on on projects. So when you suddenly have, 347 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: like the brains of your project is twenty five or 348 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: thirty five dollars, that opens up a lot of opportunities. 349 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: I mean, even if you went down to the computer 350 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: store you said, I wanted to build a computer, use 351 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: for my computer to have a computer cheaper than and um, 352 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: I believe they're also talking about a case. So if 353 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: that that's putting you off, Yeah, there's no case right now, 354 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: but that there are plans for that in the future. 355 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: So it's uh, because that's that's one thing some folks 356 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: have said, like, well, it looks a little cluji. It 357 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: looks a little like, you know, you've got this hardware. 358 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Showing that to some people just seems a little weird, 359 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: like it looks like you naked circuit board. Yeah, it 360 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: looks like looks like someone went crazy and took a 361 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: radio apart or something, and now there's just these pieces 362 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: sitting around. So there is talk about creating a case, 363 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: although I'm sure there's gonna be plenty of people out 364 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: there who are going to. The folks that I think 365 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: really this appeals to are the same ones who will 366 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: go out and build their own cases. Who will you know, 367 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: you'll end up seeing like some really crazy interesting variations 368 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: on cases for the raspberry pie pie. Uh and I've 369 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: already seen a Lego based case. Yeah, yeah, it makes 370 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: perfect sense to me. Yeah, of course you don't want 371 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: to completely steal it off because you've got to not 372 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: only provide access to the porch, but also provide a 373 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: little cooling. Um, make sure a little air can get 374 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: to it. But um, but yeah, I mean for considering 375 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: it will take wired or wireless connections and I'm including 376 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: power in that. Um, you can do all kinds of 377 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: things with this little device, um, and possibly get a 378 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: whole new generation of people interested in what it takes 379 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: to uh to learn programming and learn what you can 380 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: do with computers of all kinds. Um. You know, I 381 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: think this is an excellent opportunity and I'm a great idea. Um. 382 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: And the nice thing is too that all the hackers 383 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: will who are buying up the machines will also provide 384 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: money for the charity side, um, who can then possibly 385 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: distribute these two people who are just getting started, who 386 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: may not necessarily have the money to to get involved. Yeah. Yeah, no, 387 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: it's a it's a really cool idea. And I all, 388 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: I can predict already that I'm gonna pick one of 389 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: these up as I can, because I mean, for thirty 390 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: five dollars, how can I not? And Uh, it would 391 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: be just be cool to have something where I could, 392 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, have a device specifically where I'm learning to program, 393 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: maybe do a couple of these hacks, uh and uh 394 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: and just sort of experiment with it, you know, use 395 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: it for what it was intended for, really, to to 396 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: to learn about programming. And uh, frankly, I've I've while 397 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: I know about programming, I've never really gotten into it 398 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: on a deep level. Back when I was a kid. 399 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: I started getting into it with basic, but you know, 400 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: I never went far beyond the program that when you 401 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: tell it to run, it prints out a picture of 402 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: a cake or something, or maybe a pie. I was 403 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: trying to avoid it because I think at this point 404 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: people have been counting up how many times we've said pie. 405 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: They've got to be exhausted by now. Well, you know, 406 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: we'd have to stick with that because the cake is 407 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: a lie. Yes, So this is this is seriously nifty, stuffy, 408 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: um and and these things that you're learning are not 409 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: just applicable to uh, this little computer, but so to 410 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: other computers, and we can start to other stuff. Yeah, 411 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: it's really good because it will give you the foundation 412 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: the basics that you need to be able to to 413 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: build more complex programs. And uh. And once you get 414 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: that that foot in the door where you've got that understanding, 415 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: then it's really all it's just up to you about 416 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: how far you want to go. So yeah, I'm really 417 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: excited to see how this develops and whether or not 418 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: it ends up being a successful program. I certainly hope 419 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: it is, because it's clear that that the people who 420 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: are part of this foundation, their hearts are in the 421 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: right place. And uh and again you know, they recognize 422 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: that creating an accessible machine is just part of the problem. 423 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: You can't you know, you can't just give people access 424 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: to stuff and expect that to solve everything. But uh, 425 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: it's a good first step. So hopefully maybe maybe in 426 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: a generation or two, maybe maybe less, but maybe like 427 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: in in ten years, when Cambridge is looking at the people, 428 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: the students that are are lying to study computers, they're 429 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: going to find that, uh they're much more um knowledgeable 430 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: about the field than the folks who applied this year. No, 431 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: no slight against anyone who's at Cambridge, by the way, 432 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: I have I have nothing but respect for your comedy programs, 433 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: but I mean that produced half of money Python Okay, 434 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: but um yeah. And and another nice thing is since 435 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: it is a charity organization, I feel comfortable giving out 436 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: their address on the podcast, which is raspberry Pie with 437 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: you know p I not the with an e um 438 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: dot org. Now dot com is also also belongs to them, 439 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: but that's the store specifically. If you want to learn 440 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: more about the device and the and the group that 441 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: that is making it and all of that, go to 442 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: the raspberry pie dot org site and they won't uh 443 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: provide you with all the information you need there. And 444 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what kind of crazy hacks 445 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: amount of all this because you know, they're gonna be 446 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: people out there who are going to apply this in 447 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: ways that we just can't even conceive of at this moment, 448 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: and uh, and those are gonna be really awesome. It's 449 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna have an instant following, I think, just because it's 450 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: so affordable and people are gonna want to mess with it, 451 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: even people who are not necessarily uh you know, the 452 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: people you would consider makers or hackers. Now I think 453 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: they'll go, you know, and I can afford that I'm 454 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: gonna try it. Yeah, I got an extra monitor laying 455 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: around here. I can plug this thing in and go. 456 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: Or heck, I've got an extra HD my cable. I 457 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: can take over the TV every now and then. Yeah, 458 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm me. It'll be fun. So yeah, if any of 459 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: you out there end up purchasing a Raspberry Pie and 460 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: you start playing with it and you guys have like 461 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: your own experiences, definitely let us know. Maybe we'll do 462 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: a follow up episode at some point and talk about 463 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: sort of the the experiences people have had with this 464 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: device and sort of you know, what they've discovered with it, 465 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: whether or not they found it helpful to have something 466 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: like this while learning to program I would love to 467 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: hear that kind of information, So hopefully in a few 468 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: months we'll be able to hear back from some of 469 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: you guys as you experiment with this. If you choose 470 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: to go out and buy one of these um and uh, 471 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: we'll revisit the topic at that point. 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