WEBVTT - JOHN LEGEND

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited to introduce today's guest. I'm love someone.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids are so excited. My teenage girls are so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>My adult girls are so excited to listen to this guest.

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<v Speaker 1>He's smart, he's talented, he's handsome. He's a loving husband

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<v Speaker 1>and father. He's a child prodigy that was taught piano

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<v Speaker 1>by his grandmother while growing up in Springfield, Ohio. He's

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<v Speaker 1>released six wildly successful albums, including Get Lifted Once Again, Evolver,

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<v Speaker 1>Love in the Future, Darkness and Light, and The Legendary Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been played quite I bet on this little

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<v Speaker 1>nighttime radio show that you might be familiar with that

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<v Speaker 1>I've in hosting for a few years, and as the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest person ever and the first black man to join

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<v Speaker 1>A Grammy, an Oscar A Tony, you might say this

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<v Speaker 1>man is something of a legend. He's here today to

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<v Speaker 1>talk with us about what's been going on with him

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<v Speaker 1>since his summer tour was canceled. Pandemic life has happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been shut in with a supermodel poor man.

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<v Speaker 1>His wife, Christy Tigan, is adorable. He's got two kids,

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<v Speaker 1>Luna and Miles, and he's working on his seventh studio album,

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<v Speaker 1>Bigger Love. We will be right back to introduce ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and to get caught up with John legend right after

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<v Speaker 1>doers get more done? Hi? John? How are you? I'm wonderful?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm doing great? I'm so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>get to talk to you. I still haven't washed my

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<v Speaker 1>cheek from where you kissed it about six years. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. I have teenage daughters and I was telling

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<v Speaker 1>them last night that I got to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were so over the moon excited, and I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually he gave me a little kiss on the

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<v Speaker 1>cheek a couple of years ago. And Briar, my sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old, jumped up and said, which cheek I want

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<v Speaker 1>to kiss it? And and so I kept I kept

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<v Speaker 1>switching back and forth. Channe, I don't remember if it's

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<v Speaker 1>this side or this side. I got about twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>kisses from my teen Wow, I'm glad I got helped.

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<v Speaker 1>I played it. I played it. So how have you been?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? How is life? Tell me you had

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<v Speaker 1>a summer tour that was canceled because of COVID. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing like instead of touring with bazillions of fans? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm home with my kids and my wife most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Um, that's been our mo for most of

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<v Speaker 1>the summer. But we did take a trip down to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>We shot a music video down there that we released

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<v Speaker 1>last week from my song wild Is that the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw with my horse Sampson in it? Exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the Frisian in that video. I had a horse named

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<v Speaker 1>Sampson for over ten years. That was a black I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know that. Well, yeah, Samson was in it.

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<v Speaker 1>See we got you and I got the kiss on

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<v Speaker 1>the cheek and the freeesian. You know, we're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got this bond going on here. Yes, we do, clearly, clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a beautiful video. Oh my goodness, gorgeous. We

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<v Speaker 1>let out a little secret, you did? You let out

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<v Speaker 1>a little secret. I had to wait for it. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>clude me in so the whole video, I'm looking, I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 1>You were very clever with the shots, very subtle. But

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<v Speaker 1>uh but yes we uh we have a little quarantine

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<v Speaker 1>baby on the way. I noticed the last a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of minutes of the song where you're dining together and

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of, you know, shuts down on you and

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<v Speaker 1>pushes you away. I'm like, I understand those emotional mood swings.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't have to act. So how old are your

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<v Speaker 1>two little ones, Miles and Luna? Right? Miles is two

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<v Speaker 1>and Luna's four. You guys aren't wasting any time here?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to catch up with me? Yeah? We

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of free time, A lot of free

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<v Speaker 1>time a lot of I think, I suspect delivery rooms

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be very, very busy in the next

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<v Speaker 1>nine months. That's true, I believe it. We joked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was us Congratulations, congratulations, thank you. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you you're just over the moon because every time

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<v Speaker 1>I see any pictures of you with your babies, you

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<v Speaker 1>look like the happiest daddy, the most blessed daddy and

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<v Speaker 1>husband in the world. Yeah, I'm very happy. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very fortunate. And uh, I get to do what I

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<v Speaker 1>love to do for a living, and UH have a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful family two quarantine with and life is good. I

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to when we can get back out on

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<v Speaker 1>tour and come to the country in the world and

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<v Speaker 1>play these songs for people. But in the meantime, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be stuck at home with anybody, I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck at home with my wife and two babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Your wife was very funny, by the way. I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed watching her on some of the things that she's

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<v Speaker 1>on during quarantine, and she has got a sassy sense

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<v Speaker 1>of humor. Yes, I get to be the bother joke sometimes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>with what I've I've seen it looks like everybody. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like my sister. My sister's got a very dry

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<v Speaker 1>sense of humor, and I can't keep up. I just

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<v Speaker 1>have to bow down to her. I can't keep up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've also been very, very busy with some philanthropic endeavors,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Harlem Village Academies in New York City. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about that. Oh yeah, I'm on the board there,

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<v Speaker 1>um and we um we serve hundreds of kids in

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<v Speaker 1>Harlem and and get them a really great education. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all doing really well, uh, going off to college and

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<v Speaker 1>doing really well on the on the state tests and

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature. So really proud of the work

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing there. UM. A lot of my work nowadays

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<v Speaker 1>is around the criminal justice reform. So we started Free

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<v Speaker 1>America a few years ago to focus on that and

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<v Speaker 1>uh ending mass incarceration. UH. And you know, we just

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<v Speaker 1>try to find ways to improve people's lives in the community.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, UM use my celebrity and my resources

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<v Speaker 1>to uh to try to make people's lives better. So

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<v Speaker 1>I read somewhere that you said that the school system

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<v Speaker 1>you came through had drop out rate by high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, my my, my hometown in Ohio and you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to change that. Yeah, that one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>we're working on. Yeah, So we focus on some of

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<v Speaker 1>our workers around education reform and then some of our

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<v Speaker 1>workers around a criminal justice reforms. So those are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things were we um work with expert on

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<v Speaker 1>every every day and try to bring about changes that

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<v Speaker 1>will really affect people's lives. Have you heard John of

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<v Speaker 1>a project called the IF? I f the IF project?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't a friend of mine here in Seattle, Kimbugooki,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a police officer, was mentoring women in prison and

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<v Speaker 1>she asked the question, if one thing had changed in

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<v Speaker 1>your life that would have changed the trajectory of your life,

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<v Speaker 1>what would that have looked like? And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>women that was incarcerated took the challenge and collected statements

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<v Speaker 1>from dozens of women and they gave them to Kim. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>from that came a movie and this whole movement and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just in women's prisons now, where people that

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<v Speaker 1>are formally incarcerated, first off, they mentor people, they try

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<v Speaker 1>to get them out, They find solutions, they get lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>people who were not represented and are there unjustly they

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<v Speaker 1>represent them, but they also take it a step further

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<v Speaker 1>where they take these people who formally incarcerated and take

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<v Speaker 1>them to youth at risk and partner them asking that question,

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<v Speaker 1>if something could change so that you wouldn't make bad choices,

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<v Speaker 1>what would that look like? And it always boils down

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<v Speaker 1>to love. Yeah, well, love and resources people like we

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<v Speaker 1>have to make sure people are safe and then tear fed,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're taking care of when it comes to health

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<v Speaker 1>care and all these other things. And uh, and love

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<v Speaker 1>is important. Isn't the resources the very foundation of love? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I talk a lot about when I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, you know, what we need to do in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. The foundations always love, like do you care

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<v Speaker 1>about your name or do empathize with them? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>do you care about their children and their children's dreams? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>And that boils down love and and if we have

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of love, then we'll get closer to justice,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, because you cannot have one without the other.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm, I agree. I mean, injustice is at the

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<v Speaker 1>very core a lack of love and compassion. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>treat somebody poorly if you love them. You can't. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't turn a blind eye to injustice. You can't turn

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<v Speaker 1>a blind eye to statistics. You can't turn a blind

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<v Speaker 1>eye to the facts and the truth if you love them,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So we have to all figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>to practice love in our lives. And you do that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in your music. The great unifier, the soul, soother,

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<v Speaker 1>that voice, those those those songs you write and compose

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<v Speaker 1>and players so inspiring to my listeners, to me, to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who has ever known love. When they listen to

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<v Speaker 1>your music, John, it just resonates to the very core

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<v Speaker 1>of love. Thank you, And uh, you know, I write

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<v Speaker 1>from the things that inspired me, and of course my

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<v Speaker 1>love for my my wife and my family, and and

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<v Speaker 1>my love of music. And uh, this new album, Bigger Love,

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<v Speaker 1>was just inspired by all of them. So if my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners haven't already purchased it, it came out a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago. What would you like to tell everybody

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<v Speaker 1>about Bigger Love? Um, it's a celebration of love, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, and it's a soulful, sexy, and uh really

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<v Speaker 1>fun album. I feel like it's perfect for this summer. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I made it during a different time, before we knew

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<v Speaker 1>what the world was going to go through this year. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote most of the songs and twenty nine and

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<v Speaker 1>early so uh it didn't anticipate all the turmoil that

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<v Speaker 1>this year would bring. But in some ways it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like that perfect antidote to what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the world right now. If you need something uplifting and

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<v Speaker 1>joyful and soulful and full of love, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this is the perfect album for you. Yeah, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be in the delivery room in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of more exactly because it is sexy. It is sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so sexy, your son, your music, the album,

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<v Speaker 1>the video baby, Yes it is. I think it's my

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<v Speaker 1>sexiest album to date. I would say, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>it is your sexiest album to date. And that video,

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<v Speaker 1>dang is beautiful, beautiful. So I we got to tell

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<v Speaker 1>people to go look at watch the video wild You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna discover two or three things. Number one, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Freezian in the movie. Number two it is very very sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>And number three there's a little surprise at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And um it was directed by the same

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<v Speaker 1>guys who directed are all of the video. Guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Nobil Elderkin and he happens to be the same guy

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<v Speaker 1>who introduced us way back in the day in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six when we first met. All right, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me your love story. So, uh, we literally were shooting

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<v Speaker 1>a video and uh, she was cast as my female

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<v Speaker 1>lead and he was as she was introduced to me

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<v Speaker 1>by Nobile Elder Kim as a photographer director that we're

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<v Speaker 1>both friends with. And wait, wait, what's what song was it? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What song were you? Should? He a single? That's the

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing. It was a video he wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>on back just to kind of uh be his calling

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<v Speaker 1>card as a new video director. He wanted to create something, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he really liked the song and he he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for video himself. He just wanted to show

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<v Speaker 1>show people that he could do it. And uh he um,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a song called Stereo from my second album,

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<v Speaker 1>Once Again, and so he cast Christie as the female

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<v Speaker 1>lead and he said, I think you're gonna like her,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh we ended up hitting it off and started

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<v Speaker 1>dating not long after that. Fourteen years later, here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Were there sparks that first day? Yeah, that were definitely

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<v Speaker 1>sparked the first day. So you guys are like the

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<v Speaker 1>quintessential love at first sight, well at least attraction lust

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<v Speaker 1>at first sight. I don't know that I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>I was in love with her yet, but I fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love not too long after that. You knew you

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<v Speaker 1>were in strong like and you wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>her that night. Huh yeah, exactly How soon after the

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<v Speaker 1>introduction did the texting start? Oh, like the next day?

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<v Speaker 1>You wait until the next day, honestly, Or did you

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<v Speaker 1>text her that night? We hung out that night, but

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<v Speaker 1>then we started texting afterwards. Ah ha, you didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>wait to hang out. You hung out that night, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the texting the next day, and then like, has

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<v Speaker 1>there been a single day since the introduction that you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't talked to her, seeing her, kissed her, text her,

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<v Speaker 1>or with her. Well maybe at the very beginning, but

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<v Speaker 1>since then it's been a quite a quite a love affair.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely adorable when you guys, you know, you're out

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<v Speaker 1>in public and you're all fancy schmancy. But I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>little clips on interviews. I watched a lot of interviews

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<v Speaker 1>before I got to talk to you, where you're just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, down to earth mom dad people, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that comes shining through is the respect that

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<v Speaker 1>you have for each other. Yeah, we really do respect

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<v Speaker 1>each other, and we have fun with each other, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know we were truly are best friends. Okay. Most

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<v Speaker 1>fun thing your kids love doing during the COVID shutdown, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they have this trampoline in the backyard and they are

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with the trampoline. Um. Chrissy has even done some

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<v Speaker 1>other things in backyard, like set up a tent for

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<v Speaker 1>overnight camping. We have the pools, so they swim a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So our backyard has been their full playground. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to come to your backyard. I got the trampoline. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the pool though, so yeah, my kids would

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<v Speaker 1>actually live on the trampoline if they could. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they would just like if they didn't have to stop

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<v Speaker 1>to take a potty break, they would live on the trampoline. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they love it. It's like the gift that is just

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<v Speaker 1>perfect because I know where they are, there's not too

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<v Speaker 1>many kids on the trampoline. I know they're safe exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>swimming certain variables are right right, and then they sleep

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<v Speaker 1>like the dead all night long. It's a beautiful thing, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to wear them out. Well, thank you thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for all the good work you're doing. John,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for all the beautiful music you've shared with

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<v Speaker 1>us in again, congratulations. Have you done the ultrasound yet? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've done quite a few. Yeah. Do I get to

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<v Speaker 1>know boy girl twins? We know, but I'll let Christy

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<v Speaker 1>when she's ready. Okay, did you do the party when

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<v Speaker 1>you found out? Did you like we we We've never

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<v Speaker 1>done a gender reveal. Now you're just like, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Yeah. So, of my three that I

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<v Speaker 1>gave birth to naturally, I've got many, many, many more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. But the three that I gave birth to naturally,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even have ultrasounds. I didn't even know until

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<v Speaker 1>the moment they were born if they were boys or girls.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the surprise, and that's so weird today, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to know. Yeah, I think Chrissie could

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<v Speaker 1>have gone either way. I did. I just rather know,

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<v Speaker 1>not because of matters that much, but I just would

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<v Speaker 1>rather know than not know. I'm like, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>all the information. And do you start calling it by

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<v Speaker 1>the name that you've picked out before or do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a pet name for the baby? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>it like a nickname. Well, we haven't started calling it

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<v Speaker 1>a name yet really, but she's starting to lean into

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of ideas, so we'll see what happens. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the way you're deferring to her on this. You're

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<v Speaker 1>like I have learned, Daddy's just going to go along

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<v Speaker 1>with whatever Mama says. Right now, it is not my

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<v Speaker 1>place to say. God, bless you, thank you John for Colin,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your music, and thank you for the

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<v Speaker 1>kiss on the cheek six years. Love you Lord, bless

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<v Speaker 1>you and keep you and the baby safe. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>you too, but by Hunt, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us today and sharing from your heart. John Legend,

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<v Speaker 1>hugs to your beautiful bride, to your two babies, and

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<v Speaker 1>prayers for uneasy labor and delivery with baby number three,

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<v Speaker 1>Bigger Love. His album is out now, has over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million streams. Already, get it wherever you get all

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<v Speaker 1>your music, get it today. Then go out and find

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<v Speaker 1>one heart, just one person who needs to be loved,

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<v Speaker 1>who needs to be cared for, who needs to have

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<v Speaker 1>their world expanded by you, One heart at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it means, one heart at a time. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank John Legend, I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us, for being here on this podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh I hope that you join me on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Take some time out of your busy schedule to slow

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<v Speaker 1>down and love someone