1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast named vest vetting Podcast. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Or radio show by the Fantasy. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 3: Sports and Gaming Association and the number one show for 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: the invested sports fan. All right, here we go. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty, twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty forty five fifty. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: And the kickoff block. Look college football World, stand, Oh. 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: My goodness, Then stumble the football, the lateral turn, a 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: counter of the hide. 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: Get you the lad table off the fail to night. 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 4: It's not the sage of the game in the fight. 11 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: It's the sage of the fight. What's up the general nation? 12 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. This is the College 13 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: Football Betting Preview, Part two. I'm stucky with me as always? 14 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 3: Is Colin Wilson recovering from that just insane FCS game 15 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: where the trolls came out at night? So you know 16 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: football is back when people are trying to troll picks 17 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: instead of being for each other and against the books. 18 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: What's going on in Colin? 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: We're into episode number two and we haven't been canceled, 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: so that means college football is still on. So that's 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: good news. That Austin p Central Arkansas game was quite interesting. 22 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: We got a couple hashtags to be created. Some of 23 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: our old trolls from our past came out decided to 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: pound their chest when they were quiet for three hours 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: with the Central Arkansas bet I said this with some 26 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: of our friends with Eli and Nick, you should cap 27 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: the game and not the noise. All right, I'm going 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: to bet based on teams, players, coaches, schemes, numbers and 29 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: market and if you're the kind of better that's going 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: to sit out there and wait till two hours in 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: advance for a notice on COVID, and that's the way 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna handicap this season. You're gonna be forty two 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: percent at the end of the year. You're not gonna 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: be a very good handicapper if you're just waiting for 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: that news on COVID. Now saying that stuck. You know 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: what the most interesting thing of the weekend was the 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: points spread. 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: Did not move a damn bit. 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: When All American Justice Smith was knocked out di'angelo Wilson, 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: the All American wide Receivers points spread didn't move a 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: half point. That tells me that some of these oddsmakers 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: already know who was not gonna get on that bus 43 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: for Austin p. 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: I mean, this is sort of. 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: Our Temple is our first game of the year, right, 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: so this could be signs of things to come. But 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: that pointspread did not move at all, and news was 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: everywhere and I'm sure Central Arkansas I was getting hammered. 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be one of the most interesting parts 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: of captaining this college football season is the news aspect 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: and finding out of the day of who's out. And 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some wildline moves. And today we're gonna 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 3: get to we're gonna talk Big twelve. We'renna talk a 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: lot of Big twelve. We'll talk to acc we'll talk 55 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: to Thursday Night games. If you're listening to this, this 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: episode came out on Thursday. We'll have an episode tomorrow 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: covering the week one games. I'm excited to talk specifically 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: as always Service Academy games. Two of the five or 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: Service Academy games I'm leaning towards. My first bet of 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: the year is going to be on the Army Game 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: at one thirty Eastern and on Saturday on CBS Sports Network, 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: which just feels so damn right. But that's for tomorrow's episode. 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: Before we get into the Big twelve, there's a lot 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: of rumors out there, But at the Big Ten there's 65 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: this like Twitter account, yacht something who just like I think, 66 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: makes up things and just hoping that he's right, and 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: then it'll gain a lot of note. Already. I talk 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: with Bret McMurphy today, who would know better than anyone, 69 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 3: and I was like, I mean, is there any validity 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: of these rumors? Is now there's a task force made 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: up of two or three dozen people. They're supposed to 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: give information about the possibility return and play football that's 73 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: not due back for another week. Once all that info 74 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: is obtained, they don't present that to the university presidents 75 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: in the Big Ten, and then they can decide whether 76 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: they want to start playing in November, January or the spring. 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: That's it. And then keep in mind eleven of the 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: fourteen Big Time presidents voted against it. They'd all have 79 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: to change their mind. I'm not going to get into 80 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: politics here, but it's probably a smart strategic move by Trump, 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: you know, being like I'm trying to get the football 82 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: back for some of these swing states. But I don't 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: think there's much to it. It doesn't look like the 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: Big BET's going to be part of this. If it 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: is great, we'll welcome in with all the open arms. 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: We'll preview those teams to be talking about them all year, 87 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: but as of now, I think that's just noise. Let's 88 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: get into the Big Twelve, which I'm excited to talk 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: about because it's a really interesting conference this year. There's 90 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: a lot of returning quarterbacks right every team, there's ten. 91 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: I always I hate this, there's ten teams in the 92 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: Big Twelve. You know, it just makes no sense, But 93 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: everyone but Kansas and Oklahoma has a returning quarterback who 94 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: started last year. Although now it looks like TCU might 95 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: not with Max Duggant look like he has a heart 96 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: condition and doesn't look like he'll play. Maybe maybe not, 97 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: and they might have to start a walk on. A 98 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: kid walk on at Georgia was behind from and fields there. 99 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: We'll get to TCU. But there's a lot of quarterbacks back. 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: There's a lot of coaches back. I think Baylor is 101 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: the only coaching change. Baylor in Texas the only two 102 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: teams that have new OC's and DC's, So there's a 103 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: lot of stability, which I think helps coming into this year. 104 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: So you should you could see some higher quality playing 105 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: the Big Twelve. Early on. But we have to start 106 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: with Oklahoma. Oklahoma's won five straight Big Twelve titles, two 107 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: losses in each of the past five years. That second 108 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: last usually comes to the College World Twelve and they've 109 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: lost one other game. The big question here with Oklahoma 110 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: is there's two right. The defense was really improved last 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: year under Alex Grinch. They got a lot more pressure. 112 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: It was just a more aggressive scheme and it just 113 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: shows you what scheme can do for a defense. Obviously, 114 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: they lose Motley, they lose Kenneth Murray to the NFL, 115 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: but it's a defense that I think can still be 116 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: a much better year that we saw back in two 117 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: thousand and eight, something that we saw last year where 118 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: it was actually they approved by thousand yards overall last year. 119 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: So it's but it's Oklahoma. It's not about the defense. 120 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: It's about the offense. The offensive line brings everybody back. 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: Creed Humphrey is one of the best centers in all 122 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: of college football. They as CD Lamb. But you have 123 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Rambo coming back. You have some really interesting transfers that 124 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: are coming. Obi Obi Ala, who is a huge fan 125 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: of at Marshall. You have the kid out of UCLA 126 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: who's coming in because Bridges is suspended half the year, 127 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: hass was recovering from an injury. But there's a lot 128 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: of depth of wide receiver. So it comes down to 129 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: the quarterback position. Spencer Rattler, Red Chert freshman is the 130 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: first time at Lincoln Riley the quarterback. Whisper doesn't have 131 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: an experienced quarterback, but it is the first time he 132 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: has a quarterback coming into the year that understands his system. 133 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: The wrench that got thrown into all this is Kennedy Brooks. 134 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: They're running back, decided to opt out, so there are 135 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: some questions in Oklahoma. It should still be an electric 136 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: offense as always. What do you see with Oklahoma overall? 137 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: Well, let's start off with the odds board and you know, 138 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: per our odds provider for the podcast bet MGM, you know, 139 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: Oklahoma is sitting at minus one twenty and that is 140 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: an extremely smart number because the last couple of years 141 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: we have been gifted numbers of taking Oklahoma plus one 142 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: fifty plus one seventy plus one thirty. That's not what 143 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: their money line is going to be in the Big 144 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: twelve championship game. So you know, finally they're getting smart 145 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: enough with this round robin format that the conference is in, 146 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: and you're gonna see the top two. Oklahoma's never going 147 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: to finish third or worse than this conference. You know, 148 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: if they do, they probably like the program of fire. 149 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: But you know, Oklahoma minus one twenty is a proper line. 150 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: It's probably the stopping point is plus one ten to 151 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: buy them. But everything you said is true, and I'll 152 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: focus more. I think what's interesting about Lincoln Riley being 153 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: the quarterback whisper. When you think about Baker Mayfield, you 154 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: think about Kyler Murray, and you think about Jalen Hurts. 155 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: I've never seen him so comfortable with an unknown quantity. 156 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: Now, I know who. 157 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray was when he was a Texas A and M. 158 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: You just had to watch a couple little bit of 159 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: film on that kid and you knew he was going 160 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: to be special. But what do we have on Spencer Rattler. 161 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not really been shown off to the world. 162 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: And Lincoln Riley talks with ease and calmness when it's 163 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: about how confident he is. And Spencer Rattler and I 164 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: will tell you this, this ou quarterback will be one 165 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: of the most protected quarterbacks that's been there in a 166 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: long time. We're talking all five offensive lineman, you know, 167 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: return double digit starts from Robinson, Hayes, Humphrey, Eley, Murray, 168 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: eight starts in the bag for Swinson, and then there's 169 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: a host of other offensive linemen that have time. This 170 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: is going to be a very beefed up. I mean, 171 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: you could, I mean, Kennedy Brooks is a big loss. 172 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: But at the same time, this is going to be 173 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: one of the best offensive line easily in this conference, 174 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: maybe you know, maybe in the nation. For who's left 175 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: that's playing. And then you mentioned you touched on Alex Grinch. 176 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: What a change, because two years ago we laughed at 177 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: Oklahoma and the College Football Playoff because essentially their secondary 178 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: was a bunch of lawn chairs out there next to 179 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: yard markers. Alex Grinch comes in. Seventy percent of that 180 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: defense is going to return. They had a success rate 181 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: of fifty first in the nation in twenty nineteen. You 182 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: say fifty first, that's not very good. They were around 183 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: one hundredth Oklahoma was terrible on defense. They allowed anybody 184 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: to have an explosive play. And now last year Alex Grinch, 185 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: mister Havo from Washington State tenth and have it for 186 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: OU last year triple digits for a team and tackles 187 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: for loss. The defense was lifeless before Grinch came. OU 188 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: is the cream of the crop. And if Lincoln Riley 189 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: is going to be calm about Spencer Rattler, I'm going to. 190 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: Be calm about Spencer Ratler. Yeah. 191 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: You make a great point with the offensive line, and 192 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: you see that in the pros now with Kyler Murray, 193 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: who I think is gonna be really good, but he 194 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: tends to take too many sacks. Baker Mayfield is you know, 195 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: he bails out of the pocket. These guys are used 196 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: to going to Oklahoma and just sitting back there and 197 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: getting protected all day long. So Radler will have the 198 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: benefit of that. The running back position. It is interesting 199 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: because they did lose Tray Sermon already their senior Stevenson 200 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: I think suspended for the first few games. But does 201 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: it really matter in that offensive behind that offense line. 202 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: Obviously Oklahoma reloads, but they did lose a lot from 203 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: the running back position. The defense not only was it 204 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: more aggressive and more successful last year, and they did 205 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: lost a couple key pieces and then keep an eye 206 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: on the Ronnie Perkins suspension. I think it's being appealed. 207 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: But they bring twelve of their top fifteen tackles back 208 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: and last year they were one hundred and twenty first 209 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: in the nation in takeaways, and we know that that's 210 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: sort of lucky and tends to regrets. So if the 211 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: turnovers and some of the bounces go their way, defense 212 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: could be even better than last year. Oh and by 213 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: the way, I have to get my first special teams 214 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: mentioned in. Oklahoma has one of the best kickers in 215 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: college football. He made all sixty nine of his kicks 216 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: last year extra points and field goals. Nice. So the 217 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: question is if it's not Oklahoma's minus one twenty favorite 218 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: per MGM. And thanks to you guys, thanks to the listeners, 219 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: we now have this podcast sponsor. Is gonna be contests 220 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: coming with free stuff and no rap, fantasy contests and 221 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: things like that for trips, So we have appreciate you 222 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: the listeners and also at MGM, so we'll be quoting 223 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: their lines. But the question in the Big twelve is 224 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: if it's not Oklahoma, who might debate Oklahoma State Texas 225 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: are the first two teams that you would start with, 226 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: So let's start with Oklahoma State. When the first thing 227 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: you think, and this applies to actually Oklahoma State and Texas, 228 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: the first thing I think about is experience. These two 229 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: teams are very, very experienced. Oklahoma State is nineteen nah, 230 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: but I think it's like around eighteen returning starters. I'll 231 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: get to why that number actually came down. They obviously 232 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: have the three headed monster on offense. You have Sanders 233 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 3: Hubbard in the backfield while it's back at receiver. Stone 234 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: are also at receiver, so the offense is loaded. Now. 235 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: The offensive line was supposed to all come back, but 236 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: they did lose Bray and Farrell. They got kicked off 237 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: the team for violating team rules. So they added Sales 238 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: from West Virginia who was like I think it was 239 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: all conference, which will help with the left sides really solid. 240 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: They lost the potential starting right guard and Bray who 241 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: transferred to Tulsa and then Farrel ended up transferring to 242 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: North Texas. So there are some question off its line, 243 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: but the offense should be great. The defense last year 244 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: was so young and raw, and they started playing and 245 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: now they're very experienced and they have some really good 246 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: pieces at every level. They started playing really well at 247 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: the end of last year in particular, and they rose 248 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: i think from eightieth to thirty seventh in defensive efficiency 249 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, and they bring almost 250 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: everybody back. This team is scary. The question is can 251 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: they beat Oklahoma or run the table and get to 252 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: the Big twelve championship? Gundy two and thirteen for cir Oklahoma, 253 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: what do you see with the folks? 254 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's obviously a problem for Gundy that he can't 255 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: get over that bedlam home. But you know, I think 256 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: I'm going to go through everything analytically from the numbers 257 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: standpoint with Oklahoma State, and then I think I'm going 258 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: to end with a question to you and you can 259 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: think about it. You know, you and I talk about 260 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: teams that get punched in the gut and they've had 261 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: some offseason traumatic things happen, and then they're just done 262 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: the rest of the year. We think about Missouri losing 263 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: at Wyoming last year. Does Oklahoma State fit that bill 264 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: if they take a couple of tough luck losses at 265 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: the beginning? So I'll leave you with that, But let 266 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: me get into the actual analytics with the Pokes here, 267 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: because everything on paper, says, I should love these guys. 268 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: The road to the big twelve to two seed. We're 269 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: giving Oklahoma the one seed. The road to the big 270 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: twelve two seed runs through Stillwater. You couldn't have asked 271 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: for a better schedule than what the Poks have, especially 272 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: leading up to October twenty fourth, when they host Iowa State, Tulsa, 273 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: West Virginia, at Kansas at Baylor. You couldn't have got 274 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: a better start to this team. So you know, they 275 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: have the highest returning production marks on both sides of 276 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: the ball, seventy five percent of the offense eighty six 277 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: percent to the defense. Oklahoma State did finished tenth a 278 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: top ten defensive and defensive havoc. They finished nineteenth and 279 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: passes the so they're really good swatting the ball out 280 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: of the air. PFF took a swipe at Spencer Sanders 281 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: because you know, we're kind of in this boat that 282 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: we didn't think Spencer Sanders could do wrong. 283 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: He doesn't make mistakes. 284 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: But you know, when you lose Tyler Wallace, you know 285 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: you got to find somebody else to throw to. And 286 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, Wallace coming back this year is just a 287 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: huge boost. But you know, PFF was they just went 288 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: to town on his accuracy. He had a thirty eight 289 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: percent completion rate on passes ten yards and over, which 290 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: says he can't throw it down the field. Sanders completion 291 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: percentage drops from sixty eight to forty seven percent when 292 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: he has pressure. He took seventeen sacks and nineteen pressure 293 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: drop backs. 294 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: That's a lot of sacks. 295 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: You know, maybe with someecurity in another year under his belt, 296 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: those numbers seemed to have some improvement. But one interesting 297 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: note is that Gundy was always leaving a guy back. 298 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: There was always six players in pass protection, and they 299 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: had an increasing rate of going up to seven defenders. 300 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: As the season went along and Tyler Wallace wasn't an 301 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: option anymore, they started leaving more guys in the box 302 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: to look after Spencer Sanders. So it's interesting to see 303 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: if that happens this year. You know, one thing you 304 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: got to do a shout out for is how important 305 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: Chewa Hubbard is to this team. When I started looking 306 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: at it third down targets, Chewba Hubbard had fifty eight 307 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: third down targets. The next closest to him was Dylan 308 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: Stoner at twenty one, So there are some fantastic options here. Offensively, 309 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: I think Wallace is a huge boost. It's going to 310 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: allow Sanders to have single coverage with other wide receivers. 311 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: But my question here is is will any of the 312 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: things that happened in the offseason deter these guys from 313 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: beating Iowa State and possibly playing Texas for the chance 314 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: to be the number two seed. 315 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 316 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: The one thing you also want to start thinking about 317 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: that I started looking to today. You hear news about 318 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: some of these teams. We're not gonna have fans the 319 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: first month, but then we're gonna start letting fans come in. 320 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: So when do you play these big road games? Is 321 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: that that could make a big difference. Now, Oklahoma State 322 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: has to go to Oklahoma, but we're assuming they lose 323 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: that game anyway, and then the key to getting the 324 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: two seed is you basically run the rest of the table. Well, 325 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: they host Texas, they host Iowa State, and at the end, 326 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the the road games 327 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: are at Kansas State and then at TCU, and TCU 328 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: has major questions. Maybe that's they need to win that game. 329 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: That's a tricky game at TCU, depending on how that 330 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: offense progresses, but they're at Kansas. Is their other road 331 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: game at Baylor, who's way down. I mean, the schedule 332 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: is very easy and like it could come down to 333 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: that at TCU game or Texas at home. And I 334 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,119 Speaker 3: guess I should mention odds. Okahoma's minus one twenty favorite, 335 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: Texas plus one eighty per bet MGM. Oklahoma State's actually 336 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: seven to one plus seven hundred to win the Big twelve. 337 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: Iowa State is plus eleven hundred, TCUs twenty to one, 338 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: and then you have West Virginia, Baylor or Kansas State, 339 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: Texas Tech and Kansas bringing up the rear at one 340 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: hundred to one. The second team who's getting a lot 341 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: of love. And when I'm looking in you know, if 342 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: I was thinking about I don't think I'm betting many 343 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: win totals if at all this year, but I'm gonna 344 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: take some shots on the conference futures already have Florida. 345 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: I was thinking about Texas. Then I see this number 346 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I thought Texas and Oklahoma State would 347 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: be neck and neck in that second tier behind Oklahoma. 348 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: And remember Oklahoma State coasts Texas on Halloween when you 349 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: probably could have fans and that game, you know, and 350 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: obviously Oklahoma and Texas play on the field, but that 351 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: game could determine who's the two seed, and it's at 352 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: Oklahoma State. So I think the value if you're going 353 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: to take a shot here, it's either Oklahoma State or 354 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: Iowa State if you believe in party and what Iowa 355 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: States do. But I think the values of Oklahoma State. 356 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: But let's talk about Texas. 357 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: The prairie skies are wide and hunt deep in the 358 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: hut of Texas. 359 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: Texas is an interesting team because it's a lot of experience. 360 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: There's a lot of experience. They were one hundred and 361 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: twenty first in returning production last year, and then they 362 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: dealt with all those injuries on top of that, so 363 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: they do bring a lot back. They lost, you know, 364 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: some town especially receiver to the NFL, but they're reloaded there. 365 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: Sam Allinger comes back one of the most experienced quarterbacks 366 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: in the country. One of the big questions is what's 367 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: gonna happen with the new coordinators. Right, shortened summer, shortened spring. 368 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: They did have some this happened before the Bowl game 369 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: last year, and their defense did look a lot better. 370 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: They're moving from a three to four to like a 371 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: four to three four four two five. I think a 372 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: lot of linebackers the weakest point of their defense. It 373 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense, uh to run a four 374 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: to two five, And the defense looked a lot better 375 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: in the scheme, which I think is a better fit. 376 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: They have all juniors starting in the secondary, led by Starts, 377 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: and the secredary is really talented if it can stay healthy. 378 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 4: You know. 379 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: The offense is intriguing, but it's a new offensive coordinator. 380 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a new system. I think you're gonna 381 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: get more tempo, less eleven personnel. The offensive line is 382 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: pretty strong, you know, and they have ingram Back, a 383 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: quarterback in a five star b Jehan Robinson who could 384 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: be a stud. Look keep your eye on him. So 385 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: there's a lot of pieces here. But can they go 386 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: to Oklahoma State and beat Oklahoma State? Can they beat 387 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: Oklahoma They have to do one of those two things, 388 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: I think in order to get to the Big twelve 389 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 3: championship game. You know, with a lot of these changes 390 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: in this shortened season, with two new coordinators, at least 391 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: you have an experienced quarterback. Herman's not gonna be calling 392 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: plays anymore. You're going away from a blitz heavy Orlando 393 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: Dean to this new scheme. How's it all gonna work 394 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: in Texas? Yeah? 395 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 4: Well I have to watch myself. 396 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: I was so down on Texas last year. We caught 397 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: flames with our listeners for I mean, but it was 398 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: justified and we were right with what LSU you know, 399 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: was able to beat him and cover that spread in Austin. 400 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: But you know, listen, Tom Herman is one step away 401 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: from being fired, and this move to get some coordinators 402 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: in here on both sides of the ball is his 403 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: last dance because if it doesn't work, getting Mike Errisachen 404 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: former you know Ohio state guy, getting Chris Ashen, another 405 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 2: former Ohio state coordinator that was a Ruckers didn't work 406 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: out there. But he was also a defensive coordinator at Arkansas. 407 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: He was fantastic. He's got the right guys in place, 408 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: and now Herman kind of wants to have this relationship 409 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 2: with his offensive corder like what he had with Major 410 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: apple White down at Houston. He wants Major apple White 411 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: to call all the plays down in Houston, and then 412 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: he wants to be able to come in on third 413 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: and short and fourth and shorten make the call and 414 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: play daddy to the OC and kind of put his 415 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: fingers in there and then ope, it wasn't my fault 416 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: when it sucked, and whoa, I'll take the glory. I 417 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: helped make that call on third and one. But it's 418 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: just not going to work. I mean, Tom Herman's running 419 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: out of straws to pull out here. And it's funny 420 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: you mentioned like they dealt with injuries last year. Tom 421 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: Herman brings that on himself because he rides them so 422 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: hard during two days. That's a whole nother story. But 423 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, when you practice at Texas, it's 424 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: not an easy August and that's why they keep having injuries. 425 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: And I think this goes back to a story that 426 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: I just want to bring up from a recruit called 427 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: Tommy Brockermeyer. Tommy Brockermeier is the five star recruit offensive 428 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: lineman that was a shoe in to. 429 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 4: Be at Texas. 430 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: His dad was a Longhorn. He's in Fort Worth. He 431 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: was supposed to go to Texas. Last minute flip for Alabama. 432 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: Why do you flip for Alabama? He tells everybody because 433 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 2: of player development and getting people into the NFL. I 434 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: just didn't see it. At Texas and it's happening at Alabama. 435 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: This guy's dad played for Texas. I mean, I just 436 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: I don't think Herman is the guy. He's very emotional 437 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: when he's an underdog and can rise to the occasion, 438 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: and for some reason when he's playing Kansas up at Lawrence, 439 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: he just can't turn it on and get it done. 440 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: And this is not a characteristic. 441 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: It's going away. This is something that keeps on sticking 442 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: with him. So you know, get a past that. This 443 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: new offense I saw it called tempo wrinkle. We're going 444 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: away from a strict eleven formation and going to ten, 445 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: twenty and twelve, which is quite interesting. A twelve set 446 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 2: that we're going to go to in a tempo wrinkle 447 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense. So I think we're searching 448 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: for an identity. I think we have a ton of 449 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: players back on defense. We're going to switch schemes around 450 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: Roshawn Johnson. You know, he's going to return back to 451 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: the running back corps after trying to be a quarterback, 452 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: as they're kind of the depth there at running back. 453 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of questions here and frankly, 454 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: plus one eighty not a good number to be buying 455 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: the Longhorns. It's more like plus three fifty and plus 456 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 2: four hundred. Forget me to buy them for the Big twelve. 457 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: You know, they generally have problems with Oklahoma State every 458 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: year beating I know they did last year, but before 459 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: that they had problems beating Oklahoma State for years. And listen, 460 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: this is this is Herman's last stand, and you can't 461 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: fire any more coordinators. And so you know, I am 462 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: not on the Longhorns. We'll see the first time there 463 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: when they're an underdog whether I'm going to be involved. 464 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: It could be Herman rally and the troops. But after that, 465 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: can he return and be a seven eight nine point 466 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 2: favorite and coach properly? And and and you know, we 467 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: just can't beat this underdog all the time. Why don't 468 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: you go coach at New mess or Rutgers. Let's see 469 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: how you do there. 470 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: Wow, harsh words for Herman. I will say the one 471 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: thing like, look, yeah, I would not advise investing a 472 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: plus one eighty I do. I think the defense is 473 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: going to be a lot better. And like Orlando this, 474 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: you know he also his corners played with more of 475 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: a cushion. Nash As a press guy. I just think 476 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: that the scheme fits their fits their roster a lot better, 477 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: so I'll be watching their defense early. But here's the thing. 478 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 3: They go October tenth, they go to Oklahoma. If they 479 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: don't win that game, they pretty much have to win 480 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: at Oklahoma State. They're going to be a dog in 481 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: that game. 482 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: Right. 483 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 3: If you really like Texas, bet them as a dog 484 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: that game. I mean, and instead of betting than to 485 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: win the Big Twelve or just wait until the Big 486 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: twelf gif they play Oklahoma the Big Twelve championship. If 487 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: you believe in Texas, to believe in the upside and 488 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: think that they could win the Big Twelve, the better 489 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: option might be a national title or to make the 490 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: College Football Playoff. Okay, enough Texas talk before you piss 491 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: off too many of our loyal Longhorn listeners. 492 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying this great action network podcast. I 493 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: want to make sure you know about the locked On 494 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: podcast network. Locked On has a daily podcast on your 495 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: favorite team. 496 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: Welcome to you, Lockdown forty nine ers. You are locked 497 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: out of the Dallas marriage? 498 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 4: Can everybody still? 499 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: Locked on? 500 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: Lakers? Podcast? 501 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: Let's Go? 502 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: Locked On podcasts are hosted by the local experts who 503 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: know your team better than anyone and give you the 504 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: inside scoop. So go to your podcast app and search 505 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: locked on your favorite team. Subscribe to your locked on podcast. 506 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: Let's move on to Iowa State, who I mentioned has 507 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: the fourth best odds per MGM at eleven to one 508 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: that win the Big Twelve. Iowa State interesting tear. I 509 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: love Matt Campbell. Brock Party is back. I was hoping 510 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: that they if the Big Twelve, what if the Big 511 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: Twelve started in October, brought. 512 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: The season the season ended on Halloween, right, we have 513 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: to bet. 514 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: We would have to bet Iowa State win the national title. 515 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: But brock Party's back. They got a thousand yard back 516 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: and returning in Hall, they have one of the best 517 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: tight end groups in all of college football. The major 518 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 3: question is that the offensive line, and they lost one 519 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: hundred and forty six starts along the offensive line. So 520 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: but they do get a two thousand and eight starter back, 521 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 3: but it's still what's the offensive line going to look like? 522 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 3: That's gonna have a lot to say in what this 523 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: offense does. But I mean, Party still put up a 524 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: lot of numbers last year, even with injury set records. 525 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: Defense should be solid again, if not the best in 526 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: the Big Twelve. They're three to three five stacked. They 527 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: did lose Lima and Johnson in the Interier, but they 528 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 3: signed Blankson one of the best Juco defensive tackles in 529 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: college football. You should help fill that role. You could 530 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: argue they have the best defensive line because they also 531 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: get Bailey back to who was hurt last year, to 532 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: provide a passers. They had the best group of linebackers 533 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: and the best defensive back as a whole. You could 534 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: argue that. So I mean I think that they you 535 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: could say they're the best defense in the Big Twelve, 536 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: as they did last year. You know Greg Eysworth, I 537 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: love him at the star position. So the defense should 538 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: be solid again. Big questions on the offensive line. You 539 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: know last year you look at it, they had three 540 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: losses by a combined four points. Five of the six 541 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 3: were by ten or less ten or fewer points. So 542 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: you would think, all right, if a couple bounces go 543 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: their way, could this team get to the Big Twelve championships. 544 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: Thoughts on the Clones. 545 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love Matt Campbell every year and 546 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: that three three five that they run is designed to 547 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: be run in the Big twelve. 548 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: Against some of these offenses. 549 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: So you know they returned seventy three percent of that defense. 550 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: It runs exclusively that three, three, five, and they were 551 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: twenty seventh in defensive havoc. So where my focus was. 552 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: You mentioned the offensive line. I was a little bit 553 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: worried about that myself, especially when I saw that there 554 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: was going to be two returning offensive linemen newel and 555 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: downing or returning. And then I got deeper into it 556 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: and I wasn't as much worried about it. They'd lose 557 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: three starters, but they've cascaded their depth very nicely. They 558 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: have three other offensive linemen that have double digit game experience, 559 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: so even though they weren't starters, you know they've they've 560 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: been in plenty of games and won't It won't be 561 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: too much for them to take on. The offensive line 562 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: is important because you have to keep Brock pretty clean. 563 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: I went deep into his numbers, no pressure, seventy five 564 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: percent completion with pressure, forty eight percent completion, eighteen sacks 565 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: on two hundred and fourteen dropbacks. The kid as a 566 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winner if there were no hands in his 567 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: face and no one within his bubble, and that's the 568 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: problem is maybe just in October, people stop tackling and 569 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: get around him. 570 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 4: I don't know. 571 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: You know, brock Purty is fantastic when they're is nobody 572 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: around him, and the offensive line needs to work hard 573 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: to make sure that keeps happening. You know, the wide 574 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: receiving corps loses de Chante Jones. He had one hundred 575 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: and one targets total last year. He was twenty four 576 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: percent of all the third down targets. So now perty's 577 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: gonna have to find somebody else. When Michael Petaway's out 578 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: after he had eighty eight total targets last year, Colon 579 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: Milton and Hall are gonna have to step up. I mean, 580 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: they had a combined one hundred and sixty seven targets 581 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: last season, so hopefully they'll fill in nicely, you know. 582 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: And over on the defensive side of the ball, the 583 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: back seven gets the most heavily targeted players back from 584 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. So the guys that need to have the 585 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: experience and game experience, they're there for the defense. The 586 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: problem that I have with these guys not really a problem, 587 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 2: is that I just said on Oklahoma State the Big 588 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: twelve two seed runs through Stillwater. That's a problem for 589 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: Iowa State. They have to go to Oklahoma State on 590 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: October twenty fourth, they have to go to Texas a 591 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: couple days after Thanksgiving on November twenty eighth. More than 592 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: likely they're gonna have to sweep those two games to 593 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: get into the Big Twelve championship game. And that's reason 594 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: why bet MGM has these guys at eleven to one. 595 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: You know, in my opinion, before we attack the rest 596 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: of the conference, there's only four teams that can take 597 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: up these two slots, and that's the four teams we 598 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: just got done talking about. 599 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: So in my opinion, I don't think Texas is going 600 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: to make it. 601 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: So I'll split a unit a half unit on Oklahoma State, 602 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: and I'll split a half unit on Iowa State, and 603 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: we'll see how we you know, trying to hedge that out. 604 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: If Spencer Rattler is everything he's supposed. 605 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: To be, Yeah, and Iowa State goes to Oklahoma State 606 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: and to Texas all after October twenty something, so there 607 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: might be fans and you know, in games at Austin, 608 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: so it might make it tougher to even play in 609 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: both those venues. The one thing I'm watching with Iowa State. 610 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: I love their coaching. I'm a huge cameo guy, and 611 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: they came up with this, you know, this three three 612 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: five stack and to solve a lot of I guess 613 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 3: you shouldn't say saw but contain a lot of these 614 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: spread offenses in the Big twelve. A lot of other 615 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: teams are starting to copy it. They and it's not 616 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: just a purely simple three three five stacktte throw in 617 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: different looks. You might see more format fronts this year, 618 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: but does that lose its effectiveness as teams have seen 619 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: it more over the years and are copying it and 620 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: get the practice against it. It's just something to watch. 621 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 3: Defense was still ext last year. Just kind of thinking 622 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: out loud here. All right, let's move on to TCU 623 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: per bet MGM. They are twenty to one to win 624 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 3: the conference. Now, coming into the year, you say, okay, 625 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 3: you know I have Dougan coming back at quarterback. He 626 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 3: has a year under his belt, but it looks like 627 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: he's not gonna play. I don't know. It's still up 628 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: in the air, and if not, it's gonna be a 629 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 3: Georgia walk off. Matthew Downing, he was walked out at 630 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: Georgia behind fields and from transferred, and now it looks 631 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: like he's gonna start. They have major offensive questions. They 632 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: lost their three tackles, They lost their best in tier 633 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: offensive linemen. I mean they pretty much just have their 634 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: center back. I mean they lost a ton on the 635 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: offensive line. They lost their top two backs. They do 636 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: have some promising freshmen coming in. Keeping on Zachar Revans, 637 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: he's a five star, but rord out of campus. He's 638 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: still not ready yet. So this questions all over the offense. 639 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: They run the Gary Patterson, the four to two to 640 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: five defense. They have Wilet linebacker back, the lost Raager 641 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: Jalen Rager in first round, Draffic at wide receiver, but 642 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: the defensive Wilid linebacker. They have a really really really 643 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: good safety duo in Moreingam Washington. But they got to 644 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: find corners. That's the big quest you're in the Big twelve. 645 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: He lost Gladdy to the NFL. The lost so I 646 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: mean he lost black Clock in the interior two. So 647 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: the defense does have to replace some key starters. The 648 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: main questions with TCU a quarterback, the offensive line, and 649 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: at corner, and those are bad problems to have in 650 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: the Big Twelve. So one part of me said, hey, 651 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: they lost six games by a touchdown or less last year. 652 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: The red zone d was so unlucky for you know, 653 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: Gary Patterson defense. So I was like, I kind of 654 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: want to buy TCU this year. And then Dougan gets 655 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: hurt and all these questions in the Big Twelve makes 656 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: it tough for me thoughts on TCU. 657 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: Well, it was it's been brought to my attention by 658 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: three people that aren't invested in the college foot ball 659 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: as much as you would be. 660 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: That they were said that. 661 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: Last year was supposed to be TCU's year. Patterson has 662 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: a hot year, then he has a cold year, then 663 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: he has a hot year, and last year is supposed 664 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: to be the year and it didn't have. But it's 665 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: kind of like betting on the San Francisco Giants, only 666 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: in even years. 667 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: You know, you just expected to be there. 668 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: But I started digging into this run when Dougan got hurt, 669 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: and I don't know, I guess you and I are 670 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: maybe reading a couple of different articles. I think he's 671 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: done right. He's had a procedure done on his heart. 672 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: He says that you know, He's glad that he caught 673 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: it in time. Something about COVID spurred him to look 674 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: at what was going on medically with him. It's not 675 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: disclosed what happened, but it was a heart condition that 676 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: he had surgery on. 677 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: That's it, and so that his. 678 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: I think he's done for the air too. I just 679 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: haven't seen it. So yeah, that's my understanding that he's 680 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: done for the year. I just don't want to speak 681 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: in Yeah. 682 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: Of course we're not you and I aren't rot doctors 683 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: or anything. And the information we're getting is so high level, 684 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: like not specific, but we just need to assume that 685 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: Doug is probably not going to play. So I went 686 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: a little bit deeper into the roster. Well, first off, 687 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: I was shocked to find there are eight other quarterbacks 688 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: on this twenty twenty roster for TCU. Seven of them 689 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: have never played in a game. Matthew Downing does have 690 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: experience over four games ten pass attempts for Georgia's a 691 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: red shirt. I'm sorry, as a freshman twenty eighteen for Georgia, 692 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: we're talking stuck and I have as much experience as 693 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: seven quarterbacks on this TCU roster, So you know, listen, 694 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: their top twenty and success rate on defense last year. 695 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: The defense is the is the heart of this Patterson's 696 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: a defensive minded coach. For TCU to like win this year, 697 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: they'd have to For them to even eclipse this win 698 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: total I saw somewhere out there at six, they would 699 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: have to sweep a schedule and upset Texas Ou, Oklahoma State, 700 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: or Iowa State. I just I don't feel good about 701 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: the direction of TCU. You can't get anything done. I 702 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: don't care if you have sixty one percent returning on 703 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: your offense. You don't have a quarterback at all. And 704 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: until somebody steps up and plays quarterback, tc is not 705 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: going anywhere, and they're not gonna beat anybody, and they're 706 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: not gonna have these great underdog wins or covers like 707 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: they did against Ohio State a couple of years ago. 708 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: We haven't heard from tc a while. 709 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: And I think it's gonna keep being a while because 710 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: if you don't have a quarterback. It's been a struggle 711 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: since the cheese At Bowl two years ago, one of 712 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: the worst offensive games I've ever seen between them and 713 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: Cal there's been. The offense has been so putrid in 714 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: Fort Worth and Cowtown to give me an under on 715 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: their win total. Nothing in the conference here. Best of 716 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: luck to Zug and I hope he gets healthy because 717 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: he has he could be, you know, a star in 718 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: the Big twelve. 719 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: I'll pass on the horn Frogs this year. 720 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you have a completely raw quarterback situation 721 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 3: with the Big twelve. You've got to keep up with 722 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: these teams with questions. On the offensive line, lost your 723 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: top two backs, you lost Reagae wide receiver. Then on 724 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: the defensive side, your linebackers will be solid. Your your 725 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: safeties are really good, but they lack getting pressure. They 726 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: have they really struggled to get pressure last year and 727 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: now they have to find corners in the Big twelve. 728 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: It's all bad, all bad news, all right. So let's 729 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: move on to the team with the next besodds per 730 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: bet MGM. That's West Virginia twenty five to one. West 731 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: Virginia last year. You know it's the second year of 732 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: your boy, the Neil Brown, so you would think that 733 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: there should be some improvement there. Jared Joach comes back 734 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: at quarterback. They have a good wide receiver group led 735 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: by Sam James Games. The question here, by the way, again, 736 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 3: they had in the Big Twelve. On the defensive side, 737 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: they lost Bailey in Washington. They're two lockdown corners. They 738 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: gotta find corners. That's not great in the Big Twelve. 739 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: I know their defensive line is good with the Stills brothers, 740 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: but the biggest question with West Virginia and if they 741 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: can find corners, their defense could be decent. Their defensive 742 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: front as pieces the offense, and in the Big Twelve 743 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: you need offense. The offensive line has to get better. 744 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: I mean, this was arguably the worst all They had 745 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: no running game at all, none, zero and I can't 746 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: even play in the backs. I think there were one 747 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: hundred and thirtieth in adjusted lineyards. I mean, they could 748 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: have got no push. And the craziest thing is they 749 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: lost mckivitz, their left tackle, who was co Offensive Lineman 750 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: of the Year in the Big Twelve. So this is 751 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: the worst offensive line in the country. But they had 752 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: a left tackle. It was co Offensive Lineman of the 753 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 3: Year the Big Twelve. They lost him. So I mean, 754 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: until this offensive line can do anything, they're you know, 755 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: they're are a step below the elite tier in the 756 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: Big Twelve. And if I'm very curious in the corner situation, 757 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 3: as well. What do you see with that, your boy 758 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: Neil Brown and your two down in Morgantown. 759 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: I love Neil Brown. I mean there's no secret about that. 760 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: We're betting on him for a long time in the 761 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: Sun Belt, and you know, glad he got the chance 762 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: to come up to the Big twelve. But this is 763 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: not a good situation from a scheduling perspective. They've only 764 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: got four road trips. That's a good thing. 765 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 4: They get the seller the Big Twelve. 766 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: At home, they get Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State TCU, so 767 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: there is some room there to get some home, you know, 768 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 2: home victories for they got to travel all the way 769 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: to Morgantown. They really it comes down to can you 770 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: beat TCU in Texas Tech to get around you know what. 771 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 2: I think the expected win total was was four before 772 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: everything got shut down, So you know, really the handicap 773 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: begins and ends at the offensive line. If you look 774 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: more into this, like you mentioned with the line yards, 775 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: they're one hundred and twenty second rank and offensive success 776 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: rate last year. That's terrible. That's a you massish one 777 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty third and sack rate on the offensive side. 778 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: Then he's not being protected. Whatsoever quarterbacks is gonna get 779 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: protected with that one hundred and thirtieth and rushing success rate. 780 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: Last you made you mass, not dead last in something. 781 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: That's how bad West Virginia was at rushing success rate. 782 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: Seventeen offensive linemen are on this twenty twenty roster, just 783 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: three year seniors. Those three seniors have combined thirty seven starts. 784 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 4: When you get. 785 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: Past those three, there's fourteen other linemen here, nothing to contribute. 786 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: It's young, it's green. I think Neil Brown we had 787 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: a what a year zero? I think we're in year 788 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 2: zero point one. I don't think we're in year one yet. 789 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: Let's give Neil Brown another pass in this COVID era 790 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: and come visit the Mountaineers next year. 791 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: I completely agree with you there with West Virginia. I 792 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: think they're heading in the right direction, but they have 793 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: too many holes this year. Key positions to watch early 794 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: on offensive line and cornerback. For me, the Bowl eligibility 795 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 3: this year? What is like? What is Bowl eligibility this year? 796 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 3: You win four games? Three games? 797 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 4: Don't I think anybody can make a Bowl. 798 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: There's too many isn't there too many teams? For there's 799 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: too many bowls for teams. 800 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 2: There's not enough There's not enough days for bowls because 801 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 2: these championship games are like December nineteenth and then January 802 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: versus college. 803 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 4: Football playoff wh Are you gonna fit them all in 804 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: on Christmas Day? 805 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: You're gonna have eighteen Hawaii bowls, which God, I hope 806 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: we don't have eighteen Hawaii bowls. 807 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 4: Get some pileon cameras. 808 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: All right, Yo, that's a conversation for another day. The 809 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: bowl situation is MESSI We will talk about that later, 810 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: but let's continue on to the Big Twelve. The team 811 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 3: with the next beside is Baylor thirty five to one. 812 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: This is a team that was in contention for a 813 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: college football playoff spot late last year. But I mean, 814 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: you want to talk about changes, and this is the 815 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 3: year not to have changes. That's Baylor. Yes, Brewer comes 816 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: back at quarterback. But this team, I mean, they have 817 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 3: two new coordinators. They're gonna have two new schemes. They're 818 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 3: the only team the Big Twelve with the new head coach. 819 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: You know, they lost lynch, Arnold and Roy. They lost 820 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: three key players in the defense from all three levels. 821 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: The defense could still be okay, but it's a rebuilt unit. 822 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 3: I mean, and it's under a Randa. It's gonna be 823 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 3: a new scheme. I mean, everything is different with this team. 824 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: Decides quarterback. They lost a ton. I don't think they 825 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: have any prayer of winning the Big twelve. Don't consider 826 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: that thirty five to one, which might look juicy thinking of, hey, 827 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: look Baylor last year. This is a bad year for 828 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 3: Baylor to be going through all this change. Thoughts on 829 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: the Bears. 830 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there is a little bit of a 831 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 2: betting angle on them, not a season long betting angle. 832 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: But let's talk about random coming in. First, Aranda comes 833 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: in and inherits, you know, just a mass departure. I 834 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 2: f A State at LSU, they'd had the same thing, 835 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: but he comes into Baylor and there's just been mass 836 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 2: departure on both sides of the line. And you know, 837 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: their schedule is tough at Texas out o you at 838 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 2: Iowa State that's tough, should be an underdog to TCU 839 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 2: in Oklahoma State. So half they're you know they're gonna 840 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: be they're climbing, you know, from the bottom rung. And 841 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: so I think what you would think if you're kind 842 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: of a high level guy and don't get digged, you know, 843 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: deep into the details. You would think, well, Matt Rule 844 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 2: and Phil Snow ran a three three five for Baylor, 845 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: and so these players should automatically know what Irand is 846 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: gonna do. Because a Rando runs a three three five. True, 847 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: Aranda runs a three three five, but he blitzes out 848 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: of a one to three seven, a one four six, 849 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: a three four four. Aranda's got pieces moving around the 850 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: chess board at all. I mean, any time the snapcout's 851 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: going on, he's hiding what he's about to do. And 852 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 2: you know, it's a completely different thing than what Phil 853 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 2: Snow was doing with the Baylor defense. 854 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 3: So a lot of stimulated pressure and Beryl Asher just 855 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 3: wanted to keep everything in front of them, and yeah, 856 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 3: Vanilla on the back end. 857 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going to be an easy change over 858 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: whatsoever you may hear. The formation is still a three 859 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: three five. It's not the same when it comes to 860 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: disguising blitzes and things like that. So Baylor just thirty 861 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 2: two percent returning production on the defensive side for a 862 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 2: really complex scheme. 863 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 4: That gives me a little worry. 864 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 2: But if there's a betting angle with this team, Larry 865 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: Fedora steps in as the offensive coordinator. You say, Larry Fedora, 866 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: Where do I remember that name? You remember that name 867 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 2: because if you were following the Action Network podcast in 868 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen Rip Jitted Juice and then the twenty eighteen 869 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: Action Never podcast, he was the head coach at UNC 870 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: at North Carolina, and we were betting second half overs 871 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: on Larry Fedora's North Carolina offenses because their plays per 872 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 2: game were just off the chart in the second half, 873 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, Fedora was coaching. He had 874 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: top twenty ISO PPP teams like two years in a row. 875 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 2: It was just it was one of the most unbelievable 876 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: trends we ever saw. Larry Fedora somehow learned how to 877 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: score points really fast. In his last two years in 878 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 2: North Carolina defense was an absolute disaster, which is why 879 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: he got fired or was not no longer with the program. 880 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: But he steps in after a six year run with 881 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: North Carolina, increased his plays per game up till his 882 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen departure. Same number of plays that are rand 883 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: to dealt with. 884 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 4: At LSU last year. 885 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 2: So you know, with their whole revamp of what Joe 886 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: Burrow ran last year, Randa had to deal with the 887 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 2: tempo and the pace that LSU was going to run. 888 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: So that was a big change for Random, but he 889 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 2: should be he should be accustomed to it after last 890 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: year at LSU. So Fedora averaged a success rate of 891 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: eightieth at UNC over the years over a span of 892 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: years there at the end, and his isopp was in 893 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: the top twenty. So what you can expect from the 894 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: Baylor offense, Charlie Brewer is gonna be explosive. He may 895 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: not move the chains. They may not have a great 896 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: success rate, but I think they're gonna score. 897 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 4: They're gonna have really big. 898 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 2: Plays, and if they can expose it on some of 899 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: the bottom tier teams here, I think you're gonna get 900 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 2: a lot of overs. So expect me to look to 901 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 2: play second half overs and maybe overs in general. With 902 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 2: Larry Fedora's an offensive cordner, I'll definitely be watching Charlie 903 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: Brewer to see what they do. 904 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: All right, let's move on now to Kansas State. Per 905 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: bet MGM, they are forty to one to win the conference. 906 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: Kansas State. Look, it is year two climbing era. It's 907 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 3: you would expect some growth there, But I mean the 908 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: system didn't change that much from what it was. It 909 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 3: was a very run heavy offense. Skylar Thompson, the experienced 910 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 3: quarterback dual threat, does come back, but they lost their 911 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 3: top two backs, they lost their leading receiver, and they 912 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 3: lost almost everything along their offensive line, which was the 913 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 3: one of the strengths of the team. So what is 914 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 3: this offense going to look like? Justin Hughes returns at linebacker. 915 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 3: That should help the defense, but the front is raw. 916 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 3: What they have. I think they have two returning starters 917 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 3: on offense. I think that's all they have. I mean, 918 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: leading receiver, both backs, the entire offensive line is gone. 919 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a completely rebuilt offense. One interesting 920 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 3: note with kids think they were They led the nation 921 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: in red zone scoring last year and they were dead 922 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 3: last in red zone d which one of that regresses 923 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 3: the most. Will be interesting to see. But what are 924 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: your thoughts on the Wildcats down in Manhattan. 925 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 4: I wanted to love you Kansas State. 926 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean you look at a victory over Oklahoma like 927 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: they had last year and you think, well, that's a 928 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 2: young team with a young coach that maybe can have 929 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: some building blocks and year two kind of build on 930 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: that and then I started getting a little deeper into 931 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 2: the team. I think maybe it's going to be another 932 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 2: year before I'm buying in on Kansas State. Sixty percent 933 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: returning production on each side of the ball, that's okay. 934 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: It's average ranked fifty fourth and fifty fifth, and success 935 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: rate on both sides of the ball last year, it's 936 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 2: pretty good for a year one coach Skyler Thompson was 937 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 2: an explosive quarterback. Case date was thirty second and passing 938 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 2: epa offensive line, they just couldn't control the line of scrimmage. 939 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 2: They were one hundred and ninth and stuff rate that's terrible. 940 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: They were eighty fourth and sacharate and protecting Skyler Thompsons. 941 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: Skyler Thompson's explosive quarterback because he would get outside the 942 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: pocket and have. 943 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 4: To do everything on his own. 944 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: So you know, you should expect more slow play out 945 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: of Kansas State. 946 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 4: Last year. 947 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: They were one hundred and twenty seventh than seconds per 948 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: play they liked to yeah, just a snail. So you know, 949 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: then I got into the offensive lineman and here we 950 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: go with another team like West Virginia. 951 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: Aren't they replacing their entire offensive line? 952 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 4: Yeah? 953 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 3: No struggle last year, but like that's that's they need 954 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,959 Speaker 3: their offensive line, so maybe it can't get any worse, 955 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 3: but I mean they lose everything. 956 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 2: Eighteen offensive linemen on the twenty twenty roster. Only two 957 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: players have started experience in Josh Ravis and Logan Long. 958 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 2: They have thirty eight appearances, not start its appearances and 959 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: just three starts. So you hear thirty eight appearances for 960 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: Josh Ravis and Logan Long only three starts. And then 961 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: and there's sixteen other offensive linemen that have no experience 962 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: on this team. So forty to one is the proper 963 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: number for these guys. I'll see you guys next year 964 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: when you come back with I don't know, fifteen returning 965 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 2: starters on the offensive line, because everybody's gonna get time here. 966 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 3: Yep. All right, Let's move on to another coach in 967 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 3: year two and Matt Wells down in Lubbock at Texas Tech. 968 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 3: He's got Bowman coming back presumably healthy at quarterback and 969 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 3: Thompson at running back. That's a good sophomore duo to 970 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 3: build on. Would really jump out of me about Texas 971 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 3: Tech is last ye they're zero to four and one 972 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 3: possession games. They were one of three teams in the 973 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: country to go winless in one possession games with four 974 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: or more, so you would think, hey, they were close 975 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: and a lot of these games the season really could 976 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 3: have turned with a couple close wins instead of close losses. 977 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 3: The defense did lose Brooks in Washington to the NFL 978 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 3: drafts along their front seven. But I don't know. I 979 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 3: think this team is headed in the right direction. They 980 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 3: had all those close losses. I despite the quarterback position 981 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 3: being in flux, their secondary needs to get better. I 982 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 3: think they were dead last in the nation and explosive 983 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 3: passing allowed that needs to get better. In the Big twelve, specifically, 984 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 3: eighty to one seemed a little high to me. I 985 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 3: couldn't convince myself to actually invest in Texas Tech, but 986 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: compare it to like forty to one with Kansas State, 987 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 3: it seems a little off to me. Any thoughts on 988 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 3: the Red Raiders. 989 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: I remember two years ago putting a thirty to one 990 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 2: down on Cliff Kingsbury and I thought I got laughed 991 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 2: off the podcast, right, But that I mean it. 992 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 4: Was a little bit of a long shot. 993 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: But listen, Lubbock is going to host two big boys 994 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 2: this year. They're gonna host O You and they're gonna 995 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: host Texas, so Texas Tech is definitely gonna have their 996 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 2: shot to pull off one of those upsets, maybe to 997 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 2: be you know, something they've done before in Lubbock, but 998 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 2: it was under a different regime. Five conference home games 999 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 2: this year, they go on the road to Kansas State, 1000 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 2: Iowa State, TCU, Oklahoma State at least half of those 1001 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 2: that can win road games in the state and TCU 1002 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: that'll probably determine their win total. Not going to jump 1003 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 2: up into the upper echelon of the top four in 1004 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: those conference. You know, all of those teams that I 1005 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: just mentioned, they're power rated within three and a half 1006 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: points of each other. So it makes it extremely hard 1007 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,479 Speaker 2: for me to get a read on these guys when 1008 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 2: we've got deficiencies at offensive line, we've got deficiencies at 1009 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: corner in but Texas techt's kind of the same, you know, 1010 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 2: returning production forty eight percent on offense, seventy percent on defense, 1011 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: but they're missing it in the important key area is 1012 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 2: Alan Bowman is excellent when he's healthy and he has 1013 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 2: an open first receiver. You know, you do a deep 1014 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: dive on his numbers against defenses where he has to 1015 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 2: check down his efficiency hits the floor. He does not 1016 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 2: know what to do when he has to look off 1017 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 2: his hot route. He is a PlayStation. 1018 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 4: What is that? What is the hot route? X? SO? 1019 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 2: I mean, but Alan Bowman has to go away from 1020 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 2: who he's already gotten his brain when he when he's 1021 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: ready to take the ball from the snap. 1022 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 4: It's trouble for Bowman. 1023 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 2: So I think one thing is we just wish for 1024 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 2: full healthier because we just can't seem to get it 1025 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: out of him or gent Duffy either year. So I 1026 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 2: think they're going to stay in the middle of the pack. 1027 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 2: Hopefully it's good enough to keep Wells off the hot seat. 1028 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: I think he is a decent coach, But you know, 1029 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: no play here for me. I don't care what the 1030 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: odds are, even if they were one hundred and one 1031 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty to one. There's just a thing where 1032 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 2: the top four teams in this conference they have the 1033 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 2: primo quarterbacks and they're the ones that are going to 1034 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 2: be in the championship game. 1035 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't bring myself into it. Let's close out 1036 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 3: with some less miles talk will close out the Big twelve. 1037 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 3: They are one hundred to one to win the big twelve. 1038 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 3: I don't even consider that. 1039 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 4: What number would you say that? 1040 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 3: Five hundred? Maybe? I mean, there's there's more COVID uncertainty. 1041 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 3: So you could have like teams. You could have teams 1042 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 3: that just have outbreaks every week that they play Kansas. Right, 1043 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 3: But it's the second year Brett Deerman and his offense, 1044 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 3: so maybe that's gonna take the step forward. But they 1045 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 3: do lose Stanley at quarterbacks. Who's going to be the quarterback? 1046 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 3: I don't know? Is that McVitie. I think it's gonna 1047 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 3: be Miles Kendrick, a junior. He actually I think fits better. 1048 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 3: He's more of a dual threat. He fits better in 1049 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 3: Deerman's kind of RPO scheme. So is this offense interesting? 1050 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1051 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 3: I mean, Kansas is really bad. Tell us how bad 1052 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 3: they are. 1053 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 2: They are so bad that I have Coastal Carolina favored 1054 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: by three points in Lawrence here next week. 1055 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 3: So oh and I think they're a three and a 1056 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 3: half point doll you're gonna you're gonna set Twitter a 1057 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 3: blaze again. 1058 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go. Yeah, rough hashtag it. 1059 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 2: But no, So Kansas lost to Coastal Carolina last year 1060 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 2: and now Coastal comes to Lawrence, and I think if, well, 1061 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 2: at least if I get a positive number on Coastal, 1062 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: I know I'll be taking them because Coastal has a 1063 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: fantastic offense, but they are literally just a flat tarmac 1064 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 2: of a defense. 1065 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 3: So again, that total, that total is gonna be got. 1066 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 4: It, Dearman? 1067 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 2: Okay, So Deerman is the new offensive coordinator in case, 1068 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 2: let's give a good shout out to Brent Dearman here, 1069 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 2: the new offensive coordinator mid season for Kansas last year 1070 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 2: came out on fire, had Kansas actually doing stuff with 1071 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 2: Puka Andrew Parchment. You know, they looked like a working offense, 1072 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: and there were a couple overs in a row that 1073 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 2: we hit. But then Big twelve coordinators, defensive courinator's got 1074 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 2: some tape on what Britt Deerman was doing. He's published 1075 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 2: a book on how to run the RPO, so they 1076 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 2: got a little brushed up on what his offense was 1077 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 2: going to be, and he, you know, quickly got shut down. 1078 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: So we'll see what they come back with in his 1079 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 2: little sophomore campaign as an offensive coordinator. Parchman had one 1080 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 2: hundred and eleven targets last year, but he had thirty 1081 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 2: seven poorly thrown balls his way. 1082 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 4: That's just not going to do it. 1083 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 2: When you have almost a forty you know, a thirty 1084 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 2: five percent rate of things that are poorly thrown balls 1085 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 2: is not going to get the offense down the field. 1086 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 2: So you're right, quarterback is the biggest question. I project 1087 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 2: them with this new schedule at point nine wins, so 1088 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: you know, if there's a market out there for you 1089 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 2: to find it, listen, Coastal should be a favorite. And 1090 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure a week from now when you and I 1091 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 2: recording a podcast, I'll have a Coastal bet down and 1092 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 2: I'll say wrong team favorite, and everybody can take their 1093 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 2: lap with their win. But uh, you know, their two 1094 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 2: top tacklers last year with safeties, and they met their 1095 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 2: college expiration date, so you know they're they're done having 1096 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: service time as a college player. 1097 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 4: So when your. 1098 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: Safeties, like multiple safeties, are your top tacklers, that's not 1099 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 2: a good thing. 1100 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is bad, all right. So that's the Big twelve. 1101 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 3: So now let's quickly cover acc next in week two. 1102 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 3: The Big twelve is a lot of really not that 1103 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 3: me be nice here. They have a lot of unappetizing matchups. 1104 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 3: They play a lot of SCS teams. We'll talk about 1105 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 3: some of them. The ACC actually has conference games next 1106 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 3: in week two, so we'll be able to talk a 1107 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 3: lot about the ACC next week. So let's run through 1108 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 3: the ACC really quickly. Clemson is obviously the big favorite. 1109 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 3: You'll set BETMGM. They're minus five hundred to win the conference. 1110 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 3: What's interesting about the ACC this year is there's fifteen 1111 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 3: teams because Notre Dame is joining the conference, and they're 1112 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 3: not gonna have divisions. You know, there's the two best 1113 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 3: teams are just gonna play in the conference championship. My 1114 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 3: main question here with the ACC what would happen if, 1115 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 3: you know, obviously we're assuming there's no Big Ten and 1116 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 3: there's no Pac twelve. Right, we'll get to UCF tomorrow's podcast, 1117 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 3: But I don't think that any powerful non Power five 1118 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 3: team can get there with their schedule. So if we 1119 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 3: assume that these four teams that they come from the 1120 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 3: Collegewell playoff, d SEC is probably the most likely conference 1121 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 3: to send to I don't think the Big twelve is 1122 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 3: any chance, but the ACC, what if Notre Dame Clemson 1123 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 3: split and they have one loss each, so Notre Dame 1124 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 3: they play in the regular season, Clemson loses to Notre 1125 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 3: Dame and then they play each other in the ACC Championship, 1126 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 3: and then Clemson beats Notre Dame. You might have both teams, 1127 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 3: especially from the committee, would love that getting Notre Dame 1128 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 3: and Clemson and like say Alabama and Oklahoma. So that's 1129 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 3: one of the things that I'm pondering. So, as I 1130 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 3: just mentioned, Notre Dame does play Clemson. Clemson has Trevor 1131 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 3: Lawrence back at quarterback Travis etn The defense might be 1132 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 3: going back to more four man fronts. The biggest question 1133 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 3: with them They've lost some pieces, key pieces of wide receiver, 1134 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 3: but the offensive line they have one starter and the 1135 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 3: offensive line returning. So I mean, obviously this is Clemson. 1136 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 3: They reload. They've also been a great bet. I have 1137 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 3: to give props to Dabba. They're forty three to twenty 1138 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 3: four and two against the spread the last five years. 1139 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 3: Notre Dame is obviously an intriguing team as well. With 1140 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 3: the Ian book, their schedule gets they go from Navy, Wisconsin, 1141 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 3: Stanford in the USC to Boston College, UNC, Syracuse and 1142 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 3: Florida State, So they make out with that swap and 1143 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 3: then you have UNC who I think is probably the 1144 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 3: third best team with Sam Howe and that offense probably 1145 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 3: a top ten offense in Longo's second year. Just guys 1146 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 3: who can win one on one on the outside. Sam Howe, 1147 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 3: you know, coming back experience, but just an explosive offense. 1148 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,720 Speaker 3: So is this just Clemson lock stay away as always 1149 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,240 Speaker 3: or is Notre Dame or even North Carolina or someone 1150 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 3: else worth the flyer. 1151 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 2: I think if you can find North Carolina at eighteen 1152 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 2: to one, you should probably take a little hit on 1153 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 2: that and let me get into all the teams that 1154 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 2: we talked about. I'll just be I'll do quick hitters. 1155 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 2: The name of the game with Clemson for me is 1156 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: something to monitor. Right, lost half of their double headed 1157 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator with Jeff Scott takes those taking the job 1158 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: down at South Florida. Something to monitor, completely depleted wide 1159 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 2: receiver corps T Higgins NFL. Justin Ross is injured, Joseph 1160 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 2: Madgatta is still there, Mario Rodgers is going to come 1161 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 2: back from injury. Something to monitor. Lawrence wasn't exactly perfect 1162 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 2: last year. Something to monitor Isaiah Simmons the only reason 1163 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 2: well Traves etend but one of the reasons they beat 1164 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 2: Ohio State is because Isaiah Simmons was able to catch 1165 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 2: every single breakaway player for Ohio State. Isaiah Simmons is 1166 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 2: the reason Clemson won that game. He's not there something 1167 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: to monitor. The price should not be minus five hundred. 1168 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 2: You don't buy there. You don't buy it. Minus four 1169 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: to fifty, don't buy it minus four hundred. The proper 1170 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 2: price for Clemson for this round robin play top two 1171 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 2: seeds get in is about minus three hundred minus three 1172 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 2: twenty five. So if you want to lay it with Clemson, 1173 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 2: that's where the number is. You see any minus two 1174 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 2: fifties out there, that's a lot of value. Same thing 1175 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 2: with the College wable playoff. You see them around minus 1176 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 2: two seventy five College rble playoffs. It's got some value 1177 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 2: to go pass that. I love North Carolina. I love 1178 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 2: everything about in North Carolina. This is a team that's 1179 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 2: going to have a heavy amount of points. Sam Hell 1180 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 2: might finally start playing the other three quarters like he 1181 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 2: plays the fourth quarter where he is an All Star. 1182 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 2: There may not be a more explosive passing offense with 1183 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,959 Speaker 2: Das Newsom. Diami Brown offensive coordinator Phil Longo has a 1184 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 2: very long history of explosive passing offenses back from his 1185 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 2: days It'll miss here last year. 1186 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 4: This is no different. 1187 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: They got the right quarterback, they got the right receivers, 1188 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 2: they have the right amount of returning production. There'll be 1189 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 2: a coin flip game against Virginia Tech. North Carolina does 1190 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 2: not even play Clemson. They face Notre Dame off of 1191 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 2: a bye week. They get a bye week before they 1192 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 2: play Notre Dame. They don't play Clemson, and it's coin 1193 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: flip game against Virginia Tech. I think a one loss 1194 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 2: North Carolina team could easily get an a SEC championship game. 1195 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 2: And so if you're looking at an eight team to one, 1196 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 2: a team that actually has a shot, a team that 1197 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 2: can score a boatload of points really fast with an 1198 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator that's proven that he can do it, that's 1199 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 2: North Carolina. Oh something to monitor. They almost beat Clemson. 1200 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 2: Just keep that in mind. I love North Carolina. I 1201 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 2: like Virginia Tech from a win total and not to 1202 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 2: win the conference. Return eighty nine percent of the defense, 1203 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 2: they were eighteenth in success rate. Hendon Hooker, it took 1204 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 2: him till the very end of the year before he 1205 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: started getting intercepted. Great great throwing in the tight windows, 1206 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 2: one of the best in the nation. Virginia Tech's defense 1207 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 2: has a new DC, but he played for Virginia Tech. 1208 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 2: He's coached the secondaries. Not much of a scheme change. 1209 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 2: I like Virginia Tech to give it a good run, 1210 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 2: but ultimately I think it's North Carolina to steal the 1211 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 2: second seed. Something about Notre Dame makes me extremely nervous. 1212 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 2: No one's taken more sacks since twenty eighteen than ian Book. 1213 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,919 Speaker 2: His go to wide receiver, Chase Chase Claypool one hundred 1214 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 2: and twenty targets is gone, along with Cole Kment second targets, 1215 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 2: Chris Finkey, Tony Jones Junior. Those three are that's another 1216 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five targets it's missing. So you know, 1217 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 2: there's plenty of depth and the two deep in the 1218 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: offensive line. That's great, But the skill positions that ian 1219 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 2: Book leans on they're gone. They lose a little bit 1220 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 2: of havoc on defense, not a big deal. Defensive coordinator 1221 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: Clark Lee is one of the best in the game. 1222 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 2: He's going to be a head coach someday. And Tommy 1223 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 2: Reees is really where the question marks are. He had 1224 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 2: a great camping World Bowl thirty three points against Iowa State. 1225 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 2: But he's got to prove himself this year as a 1226 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 2: play caller. So I think there's I have questions about 1227 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 2: Ian Book and what his ceiling is. I don't think 1228 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 2: his floor is low. I think his flor's actually pretty high. 1229 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 2: But how high is his ceiling, especially when he's missing 1230 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 2: his pieces? I think that they're limited on how far 1231 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 2: Notre Dame can go to me. North Carolina is the 1232 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 2: team that's proven that they could beat a loaded Clemson squad, 1233 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 2: and they're the ones that have a favorable schedule by 1234 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 2: not even playing Clemson eighteen to one. I'll take a 1235 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 2: little piece of that. 1236 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 3: These tie breakers could I got to look into the 1237 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 3: tiebreakers for all this too, Like what if Notre Dame 1238 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 3: beats Clemson but and finishes one must, but UNC beats 1239 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 3: Notre Dame. Who's look into all this? If there's a big, 1240 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 3: that big of a price discrepancy out on UNC and 1241 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 3: Notre Dame, I would agree with because this offense is 1242 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 3: explosive and the defense has the potential to get better. 1243 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 3: Just so I look, I'll spend ninety seconds going I 1244 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 3: just want to mention every other team. I'll do a 1245 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 3: quick hit for every team. Colin, I'll give you a 1246 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 3: chance to way after to see if you want to 1247 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 3: mention anythink Miami Derek King comes in, which is exciting. 1248 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 3: Danny Nose, your boy is gone. They have a new offense. 1249 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 3: Quarnator go on a spread. Brevin Jordan's awesome as a 1250 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 3: tight end. There's still questions about the old line. Rosa 1251 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 3: that their defensive end opted out, which is really unfortunate 1252 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 3: because Rochet, the defensive end for was a stud from Temple. 1253 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 3: They would have had the best two best defensive end, 1254 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 3: the best defensive end group in all of college football, 1255 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 3: but he opted out. Opt Outs are a huge storyline 1256 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,240 Speaker 3: in the ACC. You mentioned Virginia Tech. Their star cornerback Farley, 1257 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 3: he opted out. Huge loss. Pitt I love the pit. 1258 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 3: All the questions on Pitt is they have an offensive identity. 1259 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,800 Speaker 3: Their defense is so good. A Twiman opted out, which 1260 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 3: is awful. He's so good in that interier. But the 1261 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 3: defensive line is still stacked. Their safeties are still monsters. 1262 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 3: Paris Ford is a stud in that pressman quarters defense. 1263 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 3: The questions about on Pitt is about their offense. Louisville, 1264 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,919 Speaker 3: you mentioned Cunningham Hawkins. Well, they're gonna score. They're gonna 1265 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 3: score a lot of points. Can their D take that 1266 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 3: next step and help them compete with the upper echelon 1267 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,280 Speaker 3: That remains to be seen. Florida State's the Mike norwal 1268 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 3: Era secondary a lot of potential and Marvin Wilson in 1269 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 3: the interior, but they're changing everything. They're going back to 1270 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 3: a four to three, which four man front, which I 1271 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 3: think is a good fit for them, But they're changing everything. Virginia, 1272 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 3: you gotta replace Bryce Perkins. Brendan Armstrong gonna do it. 1273 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 3: Their defense still should be good, but replacing Bryce Perkins, 1274 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 3: who's everything that team not gonna be easy. Duke Chase 1275 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 3: Bryce er is that who's the projected starter as of now? 1276 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 3: Clemson back up. This team is not good enough to 1277 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 3: win the conference. Wake Fares another opt out lose stage 1278 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: throught one of the best receivers in the country. I 1279 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 3: do have to say they might have the best kicker 1280 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 3: in the country for Wake Farst, but the Serrat loss 1281 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 3: was huge. Boston College new coach Chaffan's gonna rebuild that D. 1282 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,959 Speaker 3: But who's the quarterback? Speaking of who's the quarterback? NZ State, 1283 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 3: who's the quarterback and could the d get any turnovers? 1284 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 3: The lowest interception rate in the country last year, lowest 1285 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 3: projected turnover margin, butestions all over that roster. Same with 1286 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. They got to find a quarterback. Their offense 1287 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 3: is do something. It's year two of Jeff Collins. You 1288 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 3: would think that there's some progression. If the offense gets better, 1289 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 3: the defense will get better because they don't have to 1290 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 3: be on the field all the time. Syracuse new three 1291 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 3: to three five scheme that no one knows about it 1292 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 3: except those one coach and they lost their spring, so 1293 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 3: changing their whole defense. The offensive line is still mess. 1294 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 3: A lot of change in Syracuse, which is not what 1295 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 3: you want this year. So I had to throw in. 1296 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 3: I had to get a mention of all the ACC teams. 1297 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 3: But like I said, we're going to talk about all 1298 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 3: the next week when we talk about other games. What 1299 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 3: teams did you want to add something in on? 1300 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 4: Well, let's throw something in on Florida State. 1301 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 2: They had the highest run disruption rate of any other 1302 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 2: team on the offensive line in the nation. Please, you 1303 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 2: now have a party there as a fresh mun at 1304 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 2: Tuba party. Have some better offensive line play. You are 1305 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 2: a sell until you see it. Louisville, no Clemson on 1306 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 2: this schedule. Season ends with Virginia kues BC and Wake. 1307 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 2: Don't sleep on the Cardinals. 1308 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 4: NC State. 1309 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 2: Dave Dorian was outside the top one hundred and passing 1310 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 2: success rushing is posted and pass exposa thank you next. 1311 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 2: Dave Dorian has probably done Boston College half way. You know, 1312 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 2: defensive cordator for Iowa State decided to hire his buddy 1313 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 2: as the offensive coordinator, Tony Signetti. He's been a quarterbacks 1314 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 2: coach for Aaron Rodgers and Ela Manning the past seven years, 1315 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 2: and I don't know how that makes him qualified to 1316 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 2: run a college offensive team. Said, but that's what's going 1317 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 2: to try to happen at Boston College. You know, Wake 1318 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 2: has lost a lot. 1319 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 4: Syracuse. 1320 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,439 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing up there. The days 1321 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 2: of Eric Dungee meecapping people in the faces over to 1322 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 2: veto is not as good as a value value over 1323 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 2: replacement of VOT player QS was one hundred and twenty 1324 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 2: second success rate last season. 1325 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like that's going to get any better. 1326 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 2: And finally, on Pitt, it looks like the Mark Whipple 1327 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator experience didn't really pan out last year in 1328 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 2: the advanced stats. I think Nardoozi's going to be looking 1329 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 2: for a new coordinator, maybe on his last legs there 1330 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 2: at Pitt about a year from now. And you know, sorry, 1331 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 2: that is good man, The pit d's good. 1332 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fantastic. 1333 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 2: I havoc And that's why you know we we will 1334 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 2: always cherish our Central Florida win. We will never say 1335 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 2: anything bad about Pitt. But the Mark Whipple area Mark 1336 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 2: Whipple era did not produce anything, you know, like I 1337 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 2: thought it would last year, which led me finally to 1338 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 2: a loss. I mean, I think we wrote him for 1339 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 2: four weeks in a row. But let me slip. In 1340 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. I think Georgia Tech is they're going to rebuild. 1341 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 2: They still fought hard, they still won games, They went 1342 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 2: to overtime, they lost to the Citadel, They beat Miami, 1343 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 2: crazy ass wafflouse, George Collins first year, throwing to the 1344 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 2: tight end for the first time at eighteen years in Atlanta. 1345 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean it, So, you know, good on Georgia Tech. 1346 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna get better, not this season. And Miami. I 1347 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 2: don't get this at all. I'm so glad Miami opens 1348 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: with UAB a havoc minded defensive team, and Derek King 1349 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 2: is going to be running for his life. This team 1350 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 2: lost to Duke, this team lost in Shreveport. This team 1351 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 2: lost to Georgia Tech. I don't know how all this 1352 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 2: love for Miami is in this market to win the ACC. 1353 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen, even though you shed the worst 1354 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator at least in Arkansas history in the name 1355 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 2: of Dan enos So that's it for me on the ACC. 1356 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 3: What much more next week when we talk about all 1357 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 3: the AEC games in Week two, and just a reminder, 1358 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 3: we're going our Week one preview podcast out tomorrow. We'll 1359 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 3: go through all five games, including Monday night football between 1360 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 3: Navy and b YU, which I know everyone in the 1361 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: world is going to bet. Yeah, make sure you subscribe, unsubscribe, 1362 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 3: leave a review, tell a friend, tone enemy. It really 1363 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 3: helps us out. We appreciate all of you listening, and 1364 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 3: then make sure you check out the Action app at 1365 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 3: Action network dot com for all of our college football 1366 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 3: content and the track all of your bets. And again, 1367 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 3: thank you to bet MGM to being our podcast official 1368 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 3: odds provider before we get out of here, and you'll 1369 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 3: be able to find even more info on these games 1370 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 3: on the Action Network app. Colin quick thoughts on the 1371 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 3: Thursday night games. Will you be betting anything and what 1372 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 3: should people look for? 1373 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm waiting on a line to come out on 1374 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Central marketsall versus UAB. The right team will be favored 1375 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 2: here UAB, and they already are at fourteen and a 1376 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 2: half and some markets out there. But what I'm waiting 1377 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 2: for is a first half line. And you know, to 1378 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 2: be more specific, I like UAB, love you AB a lot. 1379 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 2: We are a devoted to Bill Clark here. He's one 1380 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 2: of the best covering head coaches thirty one and eighteen. 1381 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 2: I think even back in twenty fourteen, before UAB was 1382 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 2: out of football for a while. I think what you 1383 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 2: need to think about is UCA just played last week. 1384 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 2: They started off extremely slow. They got to the p 1385 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 2: thirty five yard line in eleven of fifteen drive. They 1386 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 2: struggled to score points. But this first half struggle by 1387 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Central Arkansas is not something that just happened in this game. 1388 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 2: It's something that happened in every single game for UCA 1389 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 2: last year. So if you go and look it up, 1390 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 2: we'll have more of this, you know, in a write 1391 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 2: up but they just had six point six points in 1392 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 2: the first half against Austin p Last year, they had 1393 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 2: seven the first half against Elly State. They had three 1394 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 2: points to the first quarter against Incarnate Word and they 1395 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 2: ended up scoring fifty two. They had three points in 1396 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 2: the first quarter and a thirty point effort against Steven 1397 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 2: F Austin. Last year, they blanked Southeast Louisiana, but they 1398 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 2: had zero first half points against Sam Sam Houston State 1399 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 2: they won twenty nine to twenty five. They were blanked 1400 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 2: the first half against Nichols. They had zero first quarter 1401 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 2: points against a This UCA team can't score in the 1402 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 2: first quarter in the first half UAB. Meanwhile, if you 1403 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 2: go and look it up, UAB second quarter points last 1404 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 2: year in twenty nineteen, one hundred and twenty four. How 1405 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 2: many points they have in the fourth quarter twenty seven. 1406 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 2: There is a UAB first half play tomorrow. There'll be 1407 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 2: more over on the Action Network. 1408 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 3: By the way, I just want to met UAV is 1409 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 3: one of the most experienced teams in the country. They 1410 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 3: bring a ton back and this is such a unique scenario. 1411 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 3: You have a team that's on like four or five 1412 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 3: days rest. They played on this past Saturday. Now they're 1413 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 3: playing on Thursday against a team that hasn't played yet. 1414 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 3: That is I mean the preparation and the rest advantage. 1415 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 3: And it's basically the second straight road game such Arckets 1416 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 3: have played in Birmingham. Wait, now they're gonna play in 1417 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 3: Birmingham again, didn't I guess they're gonna stay there. Yeah. Yeah, 1418 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 3: it's still a horrific situation for them. But the other game, 1419 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 3: the first FBS matchup of the year, is a hilarious one, 1420 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Southern Miss and South Alabama. South Alabama made a joke 1421 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 3: on Twitter, improved like sixty points in my power ratings 1422 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 3: when all these conferences dropped out. That was the only 1423 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 3: piece of positive news that could offer for South Alabama fans. 1424 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 3: I think South Abama, what's the fifteen point underdog right now? 1425 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I make this game thirteen and a half. Not much, 1426 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 2: you know, a little small ledge here to what South 1427 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 2: Alabama's going But what you're betting on is that the 1428 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 2: game's probably gonna be at Southern Miss by twenty one 1429 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 2: and you're waiting on a last minute pick six or 1430 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 2: something like that for them to have a backdoor cover. 1431 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 2: It's got back door cover written all over it. So 1432 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 2: there's not much value in that. I do make the 1433 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 2: total forty eight and a half. It's been sitting at 1434 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 2: fifty three and a half for about two days now. 1435 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 2: I'd like it to get to fifty four. I'd like 1436 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 2: to take an under on this game, Specifically Southern miss 1437 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 2: They're not a deep ball throwing team. They're a dink 1438 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 2: and dunk. Abraham just likes to He's zero to nine 1439 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,439 Speaker 2: yards on all of his passes, burns a lot of clock. 1440 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 2: They're not extremely fast, you know. Southern Miss ended twenty 1441 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 2: nineteen one hundred and twenty second and havoc allowed. 1442 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 4: They're not They don't take care of the ball whatsoever. 1443 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 2: And South Alabama is one of the worst teams in 1444 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 2: the world at converting you know, field position into points. 1445 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna like to take a little bit of 1446 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,439 Speaker 2: an under here, maybe a half unit on an under, 1447 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,040 Speaker 2: but I'd like to get to fifty four first. 1448 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 3: A right, fair enough. We'll have more on the Action 1449 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 3: Appenactionwork dot Com. Kyle, thanks for joining me as always, 1450 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 3: good stuff on the Big twelve. Don't forget. We're gonna 1451 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 3: have our Week one preview tomorrow and then we'll be 1452 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,439 Speaker 3: back to our regularly scheduled programming starting next weekend. Each 1453 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 3: week we'll have a preview episode for those weeks games 1454 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 3: that'll come out on Friday. We'll have a weekend recap 1455 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 3: that comes out on Monday. We'll talk about any weekday 1456 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 3: games as well. I don't think we're gonna have too 1457 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 3: venue this year, so we'll be back in business until 1458 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 3: college football lets us and then hopefully on to college basketball. 1459 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 3: But again, don't forget the subscribe unsubscribe. Thanks again for listening, 1460 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 3: and we'll catch you all later years. Peace out, we're 1461 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 3: finished talking