1 00:00:04,364 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,284 --> 00:00:18,884 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:24,204 --> 00:00:26,764 Speaker 2: So if you didn't watch the game, Caleb played two drives. 4 00:00:26,884 --> 00:00:29,324 Speaker 2: The second one ended prematurely, at least for Bears fans, 5 00:00:29,764 --> 00:00:32,004 Speaker 2: not in no small part to the fact that Roma Dunes, 6 00:00:32,044 --> 00:00:33,844 Speaker 2: they had a big drop on the far sideline, a 7 00:00:33,924 --> 00:00:36,884 Speaker 2: drop that Caleb took responsibility for, even though we. 8 00:00:36,844 --> 00:00:38,924 Speaker 3: All know that wasn't true, which is fine. 9 00:00:39,164 --> 00:00:42,204 Speaker 2: The headline here is Caleb and Ben Johnson look smooth, 10 00:00:42,244 --> 00:00:45,124 Speaker 2: They look efficient, they look comfortable, they looked good. Let's 11 00:00:45,164 --> 00:00:47,404 Speaker 2: put this in proper contexts. This is the first time 12 00:00:47,524 --> 00:00:51,524 Speaker 2: Caleb has ever played on an NFL field without an 13 00:00:51,564 --> 00:00:54,204 Speaker 2: interim coach or an ill suited coach with like a 14 00:00:54,244 --> 00:00:56,564 Speaker 2: proper coach to his skills. The last time he played 15 00:00:56,564 --> 00:00:58,924 Speaker 2: a game, it was seven months ago. He was with 16 00:00:58,964 --> 00:01:02,924 Speaker 2: his third coordinator, his second head coach. He's in Lambeau Field, winning, 17 00:01:03,044 --> 00:01:05,084 Speaker 2: by the way, But this is it's been a long 18 00:01:05,244 --> 00:01:08,324 Speaker 2: time coming. And listen. He hit both tight ends, he 19 00:01:08,364 --> 00:01:10,244 Speaker 2: hit the wide receivers. He hit the wide receiver. One 20 00:01:10,444 --> 00:01:12,324 Speaker 2: went to the wide receiver, two went to wide receiver. 21 00:01:12,364 --> 00:01:14,764 Speaker 3: Three. It's something you can need. It was smooth. 22 00:01:15,284 --> 00:01:17,924 Speaker 2: Getting the play in and out of the huddle was smooth. 23 00:01:18,044 --> 00:01:20,484 Speaker 2: Everything was on time. They're trotting up to the line 24 00:01:20,484 --> 00:01:22,524 Speaker 2: of scrimmage with tons of time on the play clock, 25 00:01:22,924 --> 00:01:26,124 Speaker 2: and some of you winning teams, winning fans of winning 26 00:01:26,124 --> 00:01:26,644 Speaker 2: teams are. 27 00:01:26,564 --> 00:01:28,604 Speaker 3: Like, what the heck they get the playout on time. 28 00:01:29,004 --> 00:01:31,164 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a big deal that the Bear's got the 29 00:01:31,204 --> 00:01:32,044 Speaker 2: playout on time. 30 00:01:32,324 --> 00:01:34,364 Speaker 3: Give them credit. It's baby steps. 31 00:01:34,524 --> 00:01:37,204 Speaker 2: You gotta crawl before you can run, and he definitely 32 00:01:37,204 --> 00:01:38,044 Speaker 2: crawled yesterday. 33 00:01:38,084 --> 00:01:41,404 Speaker 3: Now listen, I will say this for Bills fans, there. 34 00:01:41,364 --> 00:01:44,244 Speaker 2: Was nobody really out there, say for maybe two or 35 00:01:44,244 --> 00:01:46,924 Speaker 2: three guys out of twenty two, who are guys were 36 00:01:47,004 --> 00:01:48,284 Speaker 2: gonna matter for the Bills this year. 37 00:01:48,604 --> 00:01:49,724 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott did not. 38 00:01:49,844 --> 00:01:53,964 Speaker 2: Play really anybody on offense, on defense. It was true, true, 39 00:01:54,044 --> 00:01:56,644 Speaker 2: backup that the Bears ones were going against. So that's 40 00:01:56,644 --> 00:01:58,604 Speaker 2: why I was thirty eight to nothing. None of us 41 00:01:58,644 --> 00:02:01,444 Speaker 2: care about the score. We care about what we're watching 42 00:02:01,524 --> 00:02:02,084 Speaker 2: right here. 43 00:02:02,444 --> 00:02:03,284 Speaker 3: And I will end. 44 00:02:03,164 --> 00:02:07,244 Speaker 2: By saying, there's this person out there, this character in 45 00:02:07,284 --> 00:02:11,684 Speaker 2: the preseason who is he will just scrooge anything positive 46 00:02:11,764 --> 00:02:13,764 Speaker 2: or happy that you have to say about what happens 47 00:02:13,764 --> 00:02:16,564 Speaker 2: on a football field. It's such an annoying Internet character 48 00:02:16,644 --> 00:02:19,164 Speaker 2: because for that person, this is the same person who's 49 00:02:19,164 --> 00:02:20,644 Speaker 2: making fun of Caleb a few weeks ago. 50 00:02:21,004 --> 00:02:22,684 Speaker 3: Understand the laws right now in the. 51 00:02:22,804 --> 00:02:26,164 Speaker 2: NFL preseason August twenty twenty five, if someone doesn't look 52 00:02:26,204 --> 00:02:30,564 Speaker 2: great in practice, they're a bust. But if someone makes 53 00:02:30,644 --> 00:02:32,924 Speaker 2: plays in an actual preseason. 54 00:02:32,444 --> 00:02:35,724 Speaker 3: Game, whoa chill out. It's just preseason. It means nothing. 55 00:02:35,844 --> 00:02:36,404 Speaker 3: Learn ball. 56 00:02:36,524 --> 00:02:39,964 Speaker 2: This is useless. You gotta pick one. You can't have both. 57 00:02:40,204 --> 00:02:43,444 Speaker 2: I know you want to, but you can't. Caleb looks smooth. 58 00:02:43,484 --> 00:02:45,604 Speaker 2: The Bears look fine. We'll see how they look on 59 00:02:45,644 --> 00:02:50,004 Speaker 2: that same field opening night against the Vikings. One of 60 00:02:49,444 --> 00:02:53,644 Speaker 2: the most amusing observations from Bears Twitter last night is 61 00:02:53,684 --> 00:02:56,964 Speaker 2: that Ben Johnson is some sort of sociopath. He's up 62 00:02:57,044 --> 00:02:59,204 Speaker 2: thirty eight to nothing at home and he's not even 63 00:02:59,244 --> 00:03:02,004 Speaker 2: smiling like I'm The cutaways of him on the sideline 64 00:03:02,084 --> 00:03:06,324 Speaker 2: are dead serious, no level, no relief whatsoever. Let's remember, 65 00:03:06,444 --> 00:03:09,364 Speaker 2: like we're talking so much about Caleb, Caleb is way 66 00:03:09,364 --> 00:03:11,724 Speaker 2: more experienced at his job than Ben Johnson, isn't his 67 00:03:11,964 --> 00:03:13,484 Speaker 2: Caleb has a year under his belt. 68 00:03:13,684 --> 00:03:17,684 Speaker 3: This was like positively, this look was amused. 69 00:03:18,084 --> 00:03:20,364 Speaker 2: This was like one of his most happiest looks we 70 00:03:20,404 --> 00:03:23,844 Speaker 2: saw at thirty eight to nothing. Ben Johnson has never 71 00:03:23,924 --> 00:03:26,324 Speaker 2: called plays during a game. To Caleb, he's never been 72 00:03:26,364 --> 00:03:28,924 Speaker 2: the head coach saved for a preseason game last week, 73 00:03:29,164 --> 00:03:30,884 Speaker 2: and I thought what Caleb said after the game was 74 00:03:30,924 --> 00:03:33,924 Speaker 2: really interesting. All the Bears media was asking him what 75 00:03:34,044 --> 00:03:36,244 Speaker 2: was coach Johnson like during the game, what was he like? 76 00:03:36,524 --> 00:03:40,164 Speaker 2: And Caleb said, he's way calmer during the games than 77 00:03:40,204 --> 00:03:42,724 Speaker 2: he is during practice when he's on me in the headset. 78 00:03:42,924 --> 00:03:45,724 Speaker 2: In practice, it's a lot of yelling and volume and energy. 79 00:03:46,004 --> 00:03:49,684 Speaker 3: In the game, it was just smooth and calm. That 80 00:03:49,804 --> 00:03:51,524 Speaker 3: is unusual. He should be amped. 81 00:03:51,564 --> 00:03:53,404 Speaker 2: He's in front of the home crowd, he's got Caleb 82 00:03:53,484 --> 00:03:55,964 Speaker 2: out there. I think this is a different kind of guy. 83 00:03:56,284 --> 00:03:58,764 Speaker 2: Will it work or not, we'll see, but he does 84 00:03:58,964 --> 00:04:02,444 Speaker 2: have that like my pulse doesn't bounce. A fly could 85 00:04:02,524 --> 00:04:04,724 Speaker 2: land on my eyeball, and when Caleb's out, I'm not 86 00:04:04,764 --> 00:04:05,564 Speaker 2: even gonna blink. 87 00:04:05,724 --> 00:04:08,044 Speaker 3: I like that. It's icy as hell, and I think 88 00:04:08,044 --> 00:04:09,124 Speaker 3: there's going to be more of a coming. 89 00:04:10,524 --> 00:04:13,924 Speaker 2: Some of us remember about fifteen years ago, Cam Newton 90 00:04:14,004 --> 00:04:15,684 Speaker 2: came out when he was entering the league and said 91 00:04:15,684 --> 00:04:18,164 Speaker 2: he wants to be an entertainer and an icon, and 92 00:04:18,204 --> 00:04:20,404 Speaker 2: people's eyes rolled out of their head and then Cam had. 93 00:04:20,244 --> 00:04:21,484 Speaker 3: To walk it back and say these things. 94 00:04:21,524 --> 00:04:23,524 Speaker 2: So that word has been around the block before, and 95 00:04:23,564 --> 00:04:26,404 Speaker 2: it's always very negative. It was just unfortunate I think 96 00:04:26,444 --> 00:04:29,284 Speaker 2: that Dylan landed on that. But to man size point, Look, 97 00:04:29,324 --> 00:04:31,884 Speaker 2: there's a million pieces of media commentary we can have 98 00:04:31,924 --> 00:04:33,964 Speaker 2: on this, and none of them are flattering. If you 99 00:04:34,044 --> 00:04:36,484 Speaker 2: really think that Dylan Gabriel has it in his DNA 100 00:04:36,604 --> 00:04:40,404 Speaker 2: to come out and take a direct shot at Shador 101 00:04:40,524 --> 00:04:43,684 Speaker 2: Sanders in his own quarterback room, then Dylan Gabriel some 102 00:04:43,804 --> 00:04:45,924 Speaker 2: kind of crazy maniac. I don't think that's what he 103 00:04:46,044 --> 00:04:49,684 Speaker 2: is about as a person. And also I agree man Si, 104 00:04:50,004 --> 00:04:53,044 Speaker 2: if you saw this and said that he's talking about 105 00:04:53,044 --> 00:04:56,044 Speaker 2: Shador and if you wielded it for whatever content on 106 00:04:56,124 --> 00:05:00,004 Speaker 2: whatever platform you're on, you're actually insulting Shadour by you're 107 00:05:00,004 --> 00:05:03,124 Speaker 2: the one saying he's an entertainer. Shadour is all about 108 00:05:03,164 --> 00:05:04,964 Speaker 2: work and on the field, keeping his mouth shut and 109 00:05:04,964 --> 00:05:08,044 Speaker 2: earning his teammates respects. Don't paint him with that entertainer 110 00:05:08,084 --> 00:05:11,244 Speaker 2: brush just because it's convenient, and you get clicks. Dylan 111 00:05:11,284 --> 00:05:13,644 Speaker 2: Gabriel did it by accident, don't do it on purpose. 112 00:05:13,724 --> 00:05:15,804 Speaker 2: Be better than that. But I know I'm talking to 113 00:05:15,844 --> 00:05:20,204 Speaker 2: a wall right now. It's a great example with Russ. 114 00:05:20,444 --> 00:05:22,924 Speaker 2: The perception of Russ at the time was this kind 115 00:05:22,924 --> 00:05:25,444 Speaker 2: of short guy from Wisconsin who played baseball too. 116 00:05:25,484 --> 00:05:28,284 Speaker 3: He didn't have this big profile, and he showed up. 117 00:05:28,164 --> 00:05:31,324 Speaker 2: And just could ball, like immediately in practice, immediately in 118 00:05:31,324 --> 00:05:32,164 Speaker 2: the preseason games. 119 00:05:32,164 --> 00:05:34,284 Speaker 3: He just had it. Matt flim net Flinn had. 120 00:05:34,204 --> 00:05:36,244 Speaker 2: Signed the contract and they said, I don't care. That 121 00:05:36,324 --> 00:05:38,204 Speaker 2: kid is so good, we can't keep him off the field. 122 00:05:38,564 --> 00:05:42,044 Speaker 2: I love that idea of history repeating itself, and Giants 123 00:05:42,124 --> 00:05:45,644 Speaker 2: fans are and should be really excited about Jackson Dark. 124 00:05:45,884 --> 00:05:47,764 Speaker 2: It's not just that he looks the part, that he 125 00:05:47,764 --> 00:05:51,324 Speaker 2: looks comfortable. He's got style to him, whatever you want 126 00:05:51,324 --> 00:05:55,484 Speaker 2: to call it, flair, panaj swag, or he just has it. 127 00:05:55,564 --> 00:05:58,404 Speaker 3: He looks very cool out there. He's not going to 128 00:05:58,444 --> 00:06:00,604 Speaker 3: start the opener. It's not going to happen. I don't 129 00:06:00,644 --> 00:06:01,084 Speaker 3: care what he. 130 00:06:01,044 --> 00:06:02,764 Speaker 2: Does in the next preseason game. I don't know what 131 00:06:03,124 --> 00:06:05,484 Speaker 2: care what he does in practice. Let me explain why. 132 00:06:06,404 --> 00:06:09,684 Speaker 2: First of all, simple scheduling stuff. The Giants have a 133 00:06:09,724 --> 00:06:12,884 Speaker 2: brutal opening to the season at Washington at Dallas home 134 00:06:12,964 --> 00:06:16,324 Speaker 2: Kansas City on national television, Home Chargers. You want your 135 00:06:16,404 --> 00:06:18,084 Speaker 2: veteran out there. You do not want to throw the 136 00:06:18,164 --> 00:06:19,084 Speaker 2: rookie to the dogs. 137 00:06:19,244 --> 00:06:21,164 Speaker 3: The other thing is history, guys. 138 00:06:21,164 --> 00:06:23,004 Speaker 2: You have to remember, right, So, Brian David's been through 139 00:06:23,004 --> 00:06:25,324 Speaker 2: this before a little bit. Brian David with the Bills 140 00:06:25,324 --> 00:06:27,804 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator when they had another first round rookie and 141 00:06:27,844 --> 00:06:29,884 Speaker 2: it was Josh Allen who they traded up to get. 142 00:06:30,324 --> 00:06:31,924 Speaker 3: Josh Allen did not start. 143 00:06:31,644 --> 00:06:34,244 Speaker 2: The opener in his first year for the Buffalo Bills. 144 00:06:34,524 --> 00:06:38,084 Speaker 2: Nathan Peterman did. Nathan Peterman was the starter. You can 145 00:06:38,124 --> 00:06:41,244 Speaker 2: look it up and Josh Allen athletic, big arm, everything. 146 00:06:41,044 --> 00:06:43,124 Speaker 3: And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no no. The only 147 00:06:43,164 --> 00:06:44,044 Speaker 3: way that Josh. 148 00:06:43,844 --> 00:06:46,244 Speaker 2: Allen got on the field was Peterman was out there 149 00:06:46,284 --> 00:06:49,524 Speaker 2: losing forty to nothing shortly into the season, and they said, 150 00:06:49,524 --> 00:06:51,124 Speaker 2: all right, put him out there, and then Alan revealed 151 00:06:51,164 --> 00:06:52,644 Speaker 2: themselves that was Nathan Peterman. 152 00:06:52,684 --> 00:06:53,284 Speaker 3: Do respect. 153 00:06:53,364 --> 00:06:55,364 Speaker 2: This is Russell Wilson. He's not going to do that. 154 00:06:55,484 --> 00:06:57,364 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is going to keep the train on the track. 155 00:06:57,444 --> 00:06:59,524 Speaker 2: He's going to run the offense. It's going to be 156 00:06:59,684 --> 00:07:01,924 Speaker 2: the starter. He was already asked afterwards. And I know, 157 00:07:02,084 --> 00:07:04,564 Speaker 2: I bet when Jackson Dart was scoring that touchdown, throwing 158 00:07:04,564 --> 00:07:06,564 Speaker 2: the ball all around the other day over the weekend, 159 00:07:06,884 --> 00:07:08,444 Speaker 2: I bet Dave was on the side and just a 160 00:07:08,484 --> 00:07:10,164 Speaker 2: little part of him was like, Oh, here we. 161 00:07:10,164 --> 00:07:12,244 Speaker 3: Go, here we go. I know these questions are gonna 162 00:07:12,244 --> 00:07:12,724 Speaker 3: start coming. 163 00:07:12,844 --> 00:07:15,284 Speaker 2: And sure enough he's asked right after the game, is 164 00:07:15,404 --> 00:07:17,964 Speaker 2: Jackson Darter can he play himself into the starting role 165 00:07:18,004 --> 00:07:20,684 Speaker 2: for the first seat for the first week. He immediately says, 166 00:07:21,084 --> 00:07:24,204 Speaker 2: Russ is our starter. We're gonna continue developing Jackson. Let's 167 00:07:24,284 --> 00:07:26,724 Speaker 2: remember that, guys, Giants fans for the next couple of weeks. 168 00:07:26,964 --> 00:07:29,884 Speaker 2: That's the SoundBite. Russ is our starter. We're gonna keep 169 00:07:29,924 --> 00:07:32,724 Speaker 2: developing Jackson. He will not start the opener no matter 170 00:07:32,764 --> 00:07:35,964 Speaker 2: what happens short of an injury. The question is, especially 171 00:07:36,044 --> 00:07:39,244 Speaker 2: with that gauntlet, guys that start. If the Giants are 172 00:07:39,324 --> 00:07:42,204 Speaker 2: one and two, if they're zero to three, do you say, 173 00:07:42,244 --> 00:07:44,004 Speaker 2: let's go, baby, let's ignite this thing. 174 00:07:44,084 --> 00:07:45,444 Speaker 3: I wonder what the leash is. 175 00:07:45,804 --> 00:07:50,404 Speaker 2: I think personally, Jackson Darts starting week over under is 176 00:07:50,444 --> 00:07:53,924 Speaker 2: about four point five. Week four point five before he's 177 00:07:53,964 --> 00:07:56,204 Speaker 2: out there. I just don't know if Rus still has it. 178 00:07:56,244 --> 00:07:59,044 Speaker 2: The schedule is tough and as good as Jackson Darts looking, 179 00:07:59,124 --> 00:08:02,764 Speaker 2: there'll be a pressure. Daniel Jones showed up and they're like, oh, 180 00:08:02,764 --> 00:08:03,644 Speaker 2: he's just psyche elized. 181 00:08:03,684 --> 00:08:04,244 Speaker 3: This is perfect. 182 00:08:04,364 --> 00:08:07,364 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart's like, nah, I wear I black down one 183 00:08:07,404 --> 00:08:09,924 Speaker 2: of my eyes because it looks like Anakin Skywalker. 184 00:08:10,604 --> 00:08:11,244 Speaker 3: I'm cool. 185 00:08:11,644 --> 00:08:14,804 Speaker 2: I celebrate like my name is Jackson Dart. I am 186 00:08:14,884 --> 00:08:16,964 Speaker 2: like the opposite of everything they were supposed to. 187 00:08:16,964 --> 00:08:19,564 Speaker 3: Say in the archetype. I don't care, guys. 188 00:08:19,604 --> 00:08:23,964 Speaker 2: If he shows up with a pink mohawk and wears 189 00:08:24,004 --> 00:08:26,284 Speaker 2: ashless chaps to camp, they don't care. 190 00:08:26,604 --> 00:08:28,084 Speaker 3: He want him to just be able to play. 191 00:08:28,164 --> 00:08:31,164 Speaker 2: If he's crazy rock star style, it doesn't matter. 192 00:08:31,204 --> 00:08:34,044 Speaker 3: He can play. He's cool and he listen. Let's be honest. 193 00:08:34,084 --> 00:08:36,804 Speaker 3: He's everything Eli was that he lost everything. Russ is not. 194 00:08:37,404 --> 00:08:40,884 Speaker 2: Russ is this vagabond guy who shows up right now, 195 00:08:40,924 --> 00:08:43,404 Speaker 2: who's been all around. He's basically a bounty hunter. He's 196 00:08:43,404 --> 00:08:45,244 Speaker 2: been on his four team in four years. You have 197 00:08:45,364 --> 00:08:48,644 Speaker 2: no attachment to the Giants, fans or anything. This guy 198 00:08:48,764 --> 00:08:51,804 Speaker 2: is handpicked, home grown. There's going to be a pressure 199 00:08:51,844 --> 00:08:54,004 Speaker 2: to have him play again. I keep bringing it up. 200 00:08:54,044 --> 00:08:57,644 Speaker 2: It's not irrelevant. The Giants opening slate is terrible. There's 201 00:08:57,644 --> 00:09:01,204 Speaker 2: no rollout game, there's no warm up game. They're immediately 202 00:09:01,204 --> 00:09:04,764 Speaker 2: into the lions Den. They lose those games. Like Dart 203 00:09:04,764 --> 00:09:08,164 Speaker 2: thing is going to be really, really strong. We are 204 00:09:08,364 --> 00:09:12,324 Speaker 2: so into the upside down with preseason takes on players. 205 00:09:12,764 --> 00:09:14,764 Speaker 2: And it's one thing if you say, oh, this guy's 206 00:09:14,804 --> 00:09:16,284 Speaker 2: the greatest guy ever because he did this in a 207 00:09:16,324 --> 00:09:19,004 Speaker 2: preseason game. At least that's optimistic and positive. 208 00:09:19,164 --> 00:09:20,404 Speaker 3: The opposite side of. 209 00:09:20,364 --> 00:09:23,884 Speaker 2: It a bus city, mid season form, midseason form guys, 210 00:09:23,924 --> 00:09:25,844 Speaker 2: the worst, bust guys even worse. 211 00:09:26,164 --> 00:09:28,804 Speaker 3: And Ashton Genty was hearing it last. 212 00:09:28,524 --> 00:09:30,644 Speaker 2: Week after a game against the Seahawks and which he 213 00:09:30,684 --> 00:09:32,804 Speaker 2: ended a negative yard age so much so that it 214 00:09:32,844 --> 00:09:36,524 Speaker 2: wasn't just the idiots online, the actual Seahawks who they 215 00:09:36,604 --> 00:09:40,924 Speaker 2: played against got involved online and made jokes about Ashton Gentzy. 216 00:09:41,084 --> 00:09:44,084 Speaker 2: Here's the joke, So the seahawkstop Jenson the negative yards tasa. 217 00:09:44,164 --> 00:09:46,124 Speaker 3: Some people are saying George Rolani is the best running 218 00:09:46,124 --> 00:09:47,044 Speaker 3: back out of Boise State. 219 00:09:47,284 --> 00:09:49,084 Speaker 2: George O Lani is a guy who they grabbed in 220 00:09:49,084 --> 00:09:51,484 Speaker 2: two thousand and four and signed out of Boise State, 221 00:09:51,764 --> 00:09:54,404 Speaker 2: and they're saying he's already better than Ashton Gentsy. Ha 222 00:09:54,484 --> 00:09:56,924 Speaker 2: ha ha. I could bring up a million tweets from 223 00:09:56,964 --> 00:10:00,964 Speaker 2: just Booger eating Lemmings online making jokes that Gentsy didn't 224 00:10:01,004 --> 00:10:04,044 Speaker 2: see competition like this at Boise State isn't big enough 225 00:10:04,044 --> 00:10:06,844 Speaker 2: for the game. Bus city, Bus city guys. It's not 226 00:10:06,884 --> 00:10:09,804 Speaker 2: only is it preseason, it's a running back deal. Running 227 00:10:09,844 --> 00:10:12,124 Speaker 2: mecks get tackled for loss all the time. Saquon did 228 00:10:12,164 --> 00:10:13,924 Speaker 2: a bunch of last year. It's just part of the game. 229 00:10:14,364 --> 00:10:17,044 Speaker 2: So finally he comes out into second preseason game, I say, 230 00:10:17,084 --> 00:10:20,524 Speaker 2: finally and just truck somebody. That's the guy that we're 231 00:10:20,524 --> 00:10:22,404 Speaker 2: looking for. That's the guy that we want. And I 232 00:10:22,444 --> 00:10:25,444 Speaker 2: think that's the guy that Pete Carroll has in Las Vegas. 233 00:10:25,204 --> 00:10:27,564 Speaker 3: Thanks Dodd Bowles. 234 00:10:27,804 --> 00:10:30,684 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield been through a lot more challenging things than 235 00:10:30,724 --> 00:10:33,324 Speaker 2: losing Canales or Cohen. I mean, this is Baker Mayfield 236 00:10:33,324 --> 00:10:35,004 Speaker 2: who was put on the rams for twenty minutes, went 237 00:10:35,044 --> 00:10:36,324 Speaker 2: out and played a game and won it. 238 00:10:36,564 --> 00:10:37,604 Speaker 3: He's been through it all. 239 00:10:38,044 --> 00:10:40,884 Speaker 2: I would just say, also, Baker in this division, look 240 00:10:40,924 --> 00:10:45,004 Speaker 2: at his contemporaries in this division, it's him, it's Bryce Young, 241 00:10:45,524 --> 00:10:48,204 Speaker 2: it's Pennix Junior, and then it's whoever the Saints start, 242 00:10:48,204 --> 00:10:50,564 Speaker 2: which we don't even know. And it's August twentieth, so 243 00:10:51,044 --> 00:10:54,404 Speaker 2: you have a combination of tbds and a couple neophytes 244 00:10:54,444 --> 00:10:56,164 Speaker 2: and maybe some promising young guys. 245 00:10:56,644 --> 00:10:57,804 Speaker 3: It should be the Bucks. 246 00:10:58,044 --> 00:11:01,084 Speaker 2: They have by far, by far in this division the 247 00:11:01,084 --> 00:11:03,964 Speaker 2: best quarterback. Is there another division where the gap is 248 00:11:04,044 --> 00:11:07,084 Speaker 2: that big from the best quarterback to the second best quarterback, 249 00:11:07,604 --> 00:11:10,964 Speaker 2: don't maybe the AFC East, I don't know, but you're 250 00:11:10,964 --> 00:11:12,924 Speaker 2: sitting there, not to mention. You have the quarterback, you 251 00:11:12,924 --> 00:11:15,044 Speaker 2: have the coach, you have all the veteran weapons. When 252 00:11:15,084 --> 00:11:18,764 Speaker 2: it comes playoff picking time, it's difficult to try to 253 00:11:18,804 --> 00:11:21,084 Speaker 2: pick a team in the NFC South to win it 254 00:11:21,164 --> 00:11:23,884 Speaker 2: other than the Buccaneers, you know. I like the Panthers 255 00:11:23,884 --> 00:11:26,084 Speaker 2: this year and the Falcons there's this vibe, but maybe 256 00:11:26,124 --> 00:11:28,404 Speaker 2: they're as sending. But we haven't seen anything from Pennox 257 00:11:28,484 --> 00:11:31,524 Speaker 2: June or not starting a season, So to me, like listen, 258 00:11:31,604 --> 00:11:34,164 Speaker 2: this is one of the easy ones. There's very challenging 259 00:11:34,204 --> 00:11:37,964 Speaker 2: divisions to prognosticate on who's going to win It's unfathomable 260 00:11:38,004 --> 00:11:39,524 Speaker 2: for me to see that the Bucks do not do 261 00:11:39,724 --> 00:11:41,964 Speaker 2: very well in the NFC South this year, do mostly 262 00:11:42,204 --> 00:11:43,004 Speaker 2: to their quarterback. 263 00:11:44,244 --> 00:11:45,524 Speaker 3: This is a negative story. 264 00:11:45,684 --> 00:11:47,804 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lot of winners here the 265 00:11:47,844 --> 00:11:49,924 Speaker 2: way I mean, are you kidding me? Like the Anthony 266 00:11:50,004 --> 00:11:52,724 Speaker 2: Richardson part of this, the Daniel Jones part of this, 267 00:11:52,964 --> 00:11:55,564 Speaker 2: Anthony richards still twenty three years old now just riding 268 00:11:55,564 --> 00:11:58,284 Speaker 2: the bench after they drafted him in the top five, Like, 269 00:11:58,564 --> 00:11:59,924 Speaker 2: what did they expect. 270 00:11:59,484 --> 00:12:01,484 Speaker 3: With Anthony Richardson? They knew this was going to be 271 00:12:01,524 --> 00:12:03,244 Speaker 3: long term, they knew it was going to be raw. 272 00:12:03,604 --> 00:12:06,484 Speaker 2: Let's be candid, guys, Like, find me fifteen people in 273 00:12:06,524 --> 00:12:09,444 Speaker 2: the United States who are super excited that Daniel Jones is. 274 00:12:09,444 --> 00:12:11,884 Speaker 3: The starter for the Colts. Come on, let's be honest. 275 00:12:12,124 --> 00:12:14,484 Speaker 2: I know we celebrate all thirty two teams, but there's 276 00:12:14,524 --> 00:12:17,524 Speaker 2: no one who's like, hell, yes, let's go now listen. 277 00:12:18,004 --> 00:12:20,484 Speaker 2: It's a negative story. I hate the Anthony Richison part 278 00:12:20,484 --> 00:12:23,324 Speaker 2: of it. Daniel Jones, sir, go get them. The way 279 00:12:23,364 --> 00:12:25,724 Speaker 2: you change the story is that you go and win, 280 00:12:26,164 --> 00:12:28,084 Speaker 2: and you win. You have two home games open the season. 281 00:12:28,124 --> 00:12:30,404 Speaker 2: You're playing against Miami and Denver, both times at home, 282 00:12:30,444 --> 00:12:32,084 Speaker 2: in front of your home crowd, in front of the dome, 283 00:12:32,364 --> 00:12:35,004 Speaker 2: go to it, Oh go do it, your very experienced 284 00:12:35,004 --> 00:12:37,164 Speaker 2: and then it's all of a sudden, nobody is clutching 285 00:12:37,164 --> 00:12:38,964 Speaker 2: pearls and crying for Anthony Richardson. 286 00:12:39,004 --> 00:12:41,804 Speaker 3: No one's saying this is a shame, myself included. Go win. 287 00:12:42,004 --> 00:12:44,764 Speaker 2: But I just there's so many things to be excited about, Like, 288 00:12:44,964 --> 00:12:47,924 Speaker 2: I just don't think a retread coming from the Giants 289 00:12:47,924 --> 00:12:50,364 Speaker 2: to start. For the Colts who take the job from 290 00:12:50,404 --> 00:12:52,964 Speaker 2: someone that they put a huge investment in and faith 291 00:12:53,004 --> 00:12:55,724 Speaker 2: and confidence behind who's now benched, That's not something that 292 00:12:55,804 --> 00:12:57,804 Speaker 2: gets me fired up. There's a lot of stories that do. 293 00:12:58,164 --> 00:13:01,284 Speaker 2: This to me is kind of a negative story. Listen, 294 00:13:01,524 --> 00:13:03,804 Speaker 2: ask me to pick some fun personalities, you know, I 295 00:13:03,884 --> 00:13:04,244 Speaker 2: want to see. 296 00:13:04,844 --> 00:13:08,124 Speaker 3: I want to see Jake Cutler and George Pickens. 297 00:13:08,564 --> 00:13:12,044 Speaker 2: I just feel like there's some spicy ingredients going at 298 00:13:12,524 --> 00:13:14,444 Speaker 2: in the fact that, like you look at Cutler and 299 00:13:14,764 --> 00:13:15,884 Speaker 2: people have picked apart. 300 00:13:15,724 --> 00:13:17,124 Speaker 3: His relationship with Brandon Marshall. 301 00:13:17,164 --> 00:13:19,324 Speaker 2: A bunch of times you look at Pickens, they pick 302 00:13:19,324 --> 00:13:20,524 Speaker 2: apart everything about him. 303 00:13:20,924 --> 00:13:22,684 Speaker 3: Cutler, I just didn't even see it till this morning 304 00:13:22,844 --> 00:13:23,444 Speaker 3: in the news. 305 00:13:23,324 --> 00:13:25,724 Speaker 2: Cycle right now for being on a podcast talking about 306 00:13:25,764 --> 00:13:27,084 Speaker 2: his divorce settlement with his wife. 307 00:13:27,124 --> 00:13:28,484 Speaker 3: That's great. I'm sure his kids love that. 308 00:13:29,244 --> 00:13:33,404 Speaker 2: Cutler and Pickens absolutely just chucking it down the field 309 00:13:33,404 --> 00:13:36,084 Speaker 2: to Pickens on the sideline in the huddle. I just 310 00:13:36,084 --> 00:13:39,564 Speaker 2: want all the personality, or in Cutler's case, allegedly, all 311 00:13:39,604 --> 00:13:43,364 Speaker 2: the apathy, and just see how that soup cooks up. 312 00:13:43,724 --> 00:13:45,484 Speaker 2: That's just like I sat there, I'm like, gimme Cutler. 313 00:13:45,804 --> 00:13:47,084 Speaker 3: Cutler was the base ingredient. 314 00:13:47,124 --> 00:13:48,444 Speaker 2: I was always gonna go Cutler and the I'm like, 315 00:13:48,644 --> 00:13:51,124 Speaker 2: who I just add some spice in the league right now. 316 00:13:51,524 --> 00:13:52,684 Speaker 3: Tyreek would have been good. 317 00:13:52,924 --> 00:13:55,444 Speaker 2: But George Pickens, He's such a mysterious player. Give me 318 00:13:55,484 --> 00:13:58,884 Speaker 2: these two. I mean I trusted implicitly. I look at 319 00:13:58,924 --> 00:14:00,724 Speaker 2: the logo, I look at the coach, and I guess 320 00:14:00,724 --> 00:14:02,364 Speaker 2: you could look at the quarterback. You don't really have 321 00:14:02,444 --> 00:14:05,844 Speaker 2: to Rogers is there. I believe that if they would 322 00:14:05,884 --> 00:14:07,404 Speaker 2: not have brought Aaron Rodgers, and if they would have 323 00:14:07,444 --> 00:14:09,004 Speaker 2: just rolled with Mason Rudolph, I still would have the 324 00:14:09,044 --> 00:14:11,844 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs. It's one of the givens, guys, 325 00:14:12,124 --> 00:14:13,924 Speaker 2: when you pick your playoff teams, and I'm not talking 326 00:14:13,924 --> 00:14:15,644 Speaker 2: to you, I'm talking to everybody in the industry who. 327 00:14:15,524 --> 00:14:16,484 Speaker 3: Makes playoff picks. 328 00:14:16,764 --> 00:14:18,804 Speaker 2: The Steelers are the free space in the middle of 329 00:14:18,804 --> 00:14:20,564 Speaker 2: the Bengo card. Just you get it, you get it 330 00:14:20,564 --> 00:14:22,964 Speaker 2: for free. Just pick the Steelers. They'll be there. They 331 00:14:23,004 --> 00:14:25,724 Speaker 2: probably won't do anything after that, but they will be there. 332 00:14:25,764 --> 00:14:27,924 Speaker 2: So yes, I look at them. But in the case 333 00:14:27,924 --> 00:14:31,324 Speaker 2: of Rogers, you know you talked about what I trust implicitly, Jamie. 334 00:14:31,364 --> 00:14:34,044 Speaker 2: I trust the Steelers' logo. What I do not trust, ever, 335 00:14:34,604 --> 00:14:36,444 Speaker 2: is Week one. I said it many times, I'll say 336 00:14:36,444 --> 00:14:38,124 Speaker 2: again this year. Week one is a liar. It is 337 00:14:38,164 --> 00:14:40,764 Speaker 2: not in a good indicator of how team seasons are 338 00:14:40,764 --> 00:14:42,884 Speaker 2: going to go. And I'll tell you this, I don't 339 00:14:42,924 --> 00:14:45,484 Speaker 2: expect much from Rogers Week one either. You might know 340 00:14:45,604 --> 00:14:47,804 Speaker 2: he's going back to met life, he's playing against the Jets. 341 00:14:48,004 --> 00:14:50,524 Speaker 2: And I say that because Aaron Rodgers is not a 342 00:14:50,564 --> 00:14:53,324 Speaker 2: great Week one player. Aaron Rodgers has not had a 343 00:14:53,444 --> 00:14:55,124 Speaker 2: great Week one in five years. 344 00:14:55,564 --> 00:14:56,164 Speaker 3: Look it up. 345 00:14:56,524 --> 00:14:59,404 Speaker 2: Even back with the Packers, twenty one got blown out 346 00:14:59,444 --> 00:15:02,724 Speaker 2: by the Jamis Winston Saints. Twenty two got beat handily 347 00:15:02,764 --> 00:15:05,564 Speaker 2: by the Kirk Cousins Minnesota Vice Picks twenty three. He 348 00:15:05,564 --> 00:15:08,364 Speaker 2: gets injured on the first series twenty four. Last year, 349 00:15:08,364 --> 00:15:09,004 Speaker 2: he loses. 350 00:15:08,844 --> 00:15:11,284 Speaker 3: San Francisco on the road. Rogers does not come out 351 00:15:11,324 --> 00:15:12,484 Speaker 3: like Gangbusters week one. 352 00:15:12,684 --> 00:15:16,324 Speaker 2: Even during like Packers seasons in the city of his 353 00:15:16,444 --> 00:15:19,044 Speaker 2: MVP MVP seasons, he doesn't play great week one. 354 00:15:19,324 --> 00:15:21,524 Speaker 3: That's fine. He comes back and gets it, makes it right. 355 00:15:21,924 --> 00:15:25,084 Speaker 2: But I'm not expecting shock in awe week one from 356 00:15:25,084 --> 00:15:27,804 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. They may win, but the idea that 357 00:15:27,844 --> 00:15:30,124 Speaker 2: it's going to be Rogers for four touchdowns and DK 358 00:15:30,324 --> 00:15:32,524 Speaker 2: this and this, I don't. I just think it's going 359 00:15:32,564 --> 00:15:34,284 Speaker 2: to be a little bit of a slow start, and 360 00:15:34,324 --> 00:15:36,884 Speaker 2: based on what I saw in training camp, albeit two weeks. 361 00:15:36,644 --> 00:15:38,604 Speaker 3: Ago, I think they have a lot of work to do. 362 00:15:38,764 --> 00:15:39,404 Speaker 3: They'll get there. 363 00:15:39,444 --> 00:15:41,484 Speaker 2: They're the Steelers, they always do, but I do not 364 00:15:41,644 --> 00:15:53,044 Speaker 2: expect a fast start from Rogers and the Steelers. 365 00:15:54,244 --> 00:15:57,044 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 366 00:15:57,084 --> 00:16:00,484 Speaker 1: with I Heart Radio. For more iHeartRadio pods, go to 367 00:16:00,524 --> 00:16:04,844 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, go to Apple go any where you like, 368 00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:05,564 Speaker 1: it'll be there.