1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast, presented by Amazon Web 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Services here in Indianapolis. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen, Director of 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Player Personnel Chat, Alexander Chat, thanks for joining us here 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: in Indy. Thanks for having me. But I just want 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: to start this this podcast off by asking you what 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: this week is like for you, because it's it's wild 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: for us as media members, you know, seeing everybody here, 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: it's like the Who's who in the NFL. And I 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: can only imagine for somebody that's been in the NFL 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: as long as you have, seeing everybody friends and then 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: actually getting down to business, what is this entire week 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: like for you? No doubt, it's it's a great experience. 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's always fun coming to the combine and 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: this is my uh twenty first combine actually, so I've 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: been doing this for a while now and it's kind 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: of old hat, but it's it's new and exciting, and 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: especially with the new you know, the new schedule and 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's it's a lot of fun, you know, 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: just just getting to see your old friends and obviously, 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, I was with the Ravens for so long, 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: so getting to see those guys, but then also seeing 22 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: my other friends throughout the league and uh just you know, 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: eating up with the you know, the Jet scouts. It's 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: a lot, it's a lot of fun. So how does 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: that impact you guys, the flip of the schedule because 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: this year, as we all know, the National Football League said, hey, 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: let's make this even more of a made for television 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: event and the workouts go to prime time. So it 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: seems like there's been kind of a shift in the 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: week and that's got to impact you guys directly, not 31 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: just watching the workouts at night, but also your meaning times. Yeah, 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: well we'll see, I mean, we'll see what the workouts 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: are like. I mean, I'm sure it's gonna, you know, 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: affect the athletes a lot more obviously, you know what 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, just trying to get ready to work out 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: at night. But for us, I mean it's I think 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: it's really cool. We we switched from the Crown Plaza, 38 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: we moved to the UH to having all of our 39 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: interviews over at the stadium, and I mean it's just 40 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of bigger space, um and in the 41 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: in the suite over there and UH can set up 42 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, and it's just just makes it a little 43 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: more comfortable for the players when they come in. Everybody's 44 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: not just all on top of each other and stuff, 45 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: even though it's great at the Brown Plaza, but it's 46 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: just it's just it's just a it's a new environment. 47 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's really cool the end 48 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: of an era, no dot about it. This is gonna 49 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: be the first time you guys are all together as 50 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: maybe a personnel staff. And and Adam Gates is doing 51 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: those formal interviews. Absolutely, you know, he gets to sit 52 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: in there and uh, you know he's he's he's really 53 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: really really active and involved with all the interviews and 54 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: and uh talking to these guys. So I mean it's 55 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: a it's a good chance for him and as as 56 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: well as the assistant coaches to uh to talk to 57 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the players and uh because we we kind of know 58 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: who the guys are, but this is really the coach 59 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: is their first opportunity to to to meet and greet 60 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: these guys and talk to him and find out they're 61 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: all about what can you learn about a guy from 62 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: a such a short interview. Obviously you have all the 63 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: background information, but what do you hope to get out 64 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: of it? Is it's just kind of like a general 65 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: first impression or are you actually going in there saying 66 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: I want to find out X y Z. I think 67 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: that's part of it, and I think it's uh, you know, 68 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: it's specific to each individual, UM player what you want 69 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: to get out of it. Uh, But UM, for the 70 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: most part, you're trying to find out the football knowledge, UM, 71 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: just a little bit about their background, how they respond 72 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: to Uh. You know, a lot of these guys are 73 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to say scripted, but they've they've been 74 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: practicing a little bit, you know what I mean, to 75 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: get them off script a little bit and to see 76 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: how they adjust and how they adapt. I think it's 77 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: I think it's good in this setting here. I want 78 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: to get into your background here in a little bit. 79 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: But how about some background on where you guys are 80 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: at in terms of the scouting process, because even before 81 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: you come to Indianapolis, you all get together for a 82 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of meetings, right, you're bringing the area 83 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: of scouts and you actually go over everybody at that time. Absolutely, 84 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: we went over everybody in the draft, and uh, you know, 85 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: it was a great opportunity to learn about the players 86 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: all around the country and to have the area scouts 87 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: kind of just you know, give their case on all 88 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: these guys, um, and to to find out all the 89 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: knowledge a bottom and everything that that the Scouts know, 90 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: and and also to watch a little bit a little 91 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: bit of tape on on each guy. Um. I think 92 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: it was it was, it was in value, but it 93 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: was great. I mean, I think we had a great 94 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: round of meetings at first round of meetings. And I 95 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: think that first round of meetings is probably the most important, 96 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, part of the meeting process. You know, Joe 97 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: probably better than anybody in the building, considering before you 98 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: came to the Jets, you worked with the Ravens for 99 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: twenty years and Joe was there for what close to 100 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: fifty yeah, fifteen himself. So, uh, what was it like 101 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: last year in your new role watching Joe and a 102 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: role probably that you thought he was destined for. Yeah, 103 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he told me, like right when 104 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: he took the job and he offered me my job, 105 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: he just said listen, he said, um, you know I learned. 106 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: He was talking about himself. He said he learned so 107 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: much while working with the Bears and with the with 108 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Not that we didn't, not that he didn't 109 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: learn a lot with the Ravens, but it's just it 110 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: was a new role. It was more responsibility. So and 111 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: he said, you know, I think you're just gonna learn 112 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: a lot, uh in this new role. And I'm really 113 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: excited for you to be here. And and you know, 114 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Joe is a great guy, and he's right. I mean, 115 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I have learned a lot, you know what I mean 116 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: in a short period of time, and uh, just really 117 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: really really encouraged and looking forward to really just putting 118 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: our fingerprints on the on the roster going forward. Well, 119 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: what's the biggest difference that you've seen between Joe fifteen 120 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: years ago to president? Obviously his roles have changed to 121 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: your point, but what about Joe the guys? Is there 122 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: a difference the Greeds, the points? Did you guys actually 123 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 1: start out the same year together? I actually I started 124 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: and Joe started in two thousands. But Joe came to 125 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: an interviewed with the Ravens, so I've known him since then. Um, 126 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: and answer your question, man, there's really not There hasn't 127 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: been that much of a change. I mean, I feel 128 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: like that's what makes Joe Joe, That's what I mean. 129 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: He's a great dude. He's were respected throughout the league. 130 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: He's the same guy every day. He's really consistent. Um, 131 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, win or lose, he's consistent. He got to 132 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: get too high when we win. He doesn't get too 133 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: low when we lose. And I think that's a that's 134 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: a great quality. You know. I read, Uh, you have 135 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: to verify this for me. I read something about the 136 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: ravens Um scouting department at that time. The club is 137 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: that right club? All right? I put one too many twenties. 138 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: The general concept is like you're twenty years old and 139 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: you're making twenty dollars a year, and uh, and that's 140 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: how that's how we get had started there. But you know, 141 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: we're all a little a little bit older than twenty. 142 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: You know, he started about twenty four and we're probably 143 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: making a little less than twenty at the time. But yeah, 144 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: but it was it's a great uh write a passage 145 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: uh um doing like a little bit of the grunt 146 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: work and some of the stuff that may not be 147 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: as glamorous. But man, the Costa was a part of 148 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: that group. Yeah, okay, but it kind of one of 149 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: your common mentors. Oz he knew something awesome. Yeah, what 150 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: did he take from him? Uh, he's you know, he 151 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: was he was the same way. He was extremely consistent, 152 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And he wasn't a micromanager. 153 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: He let you do your job. Um. And one of 154 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the great things I thought about Ozzy was he was 155 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: extremely um you know, he had his own opinions obviously, 156 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: but he was really really uh focused on making it 157 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: a group concept, making it a consensus whenever we are familiar. Yeah, definitely, 158 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And uh, and he was 159 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: also wise enough not to uh try to influence the 160 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: room too much by giving his opinion on players necessarily, 161 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so by that way, 162 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: I think we kind of true to the process a 163 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: lot of the time, and and we got it right 164 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, which was great. When a 165 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: guy at the top like Ozzie or Joe are the 166 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: stable force and they they really emphasized collaboration. To your point, 167 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: what does that allow the rest of the department to do, 168 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: like in their individual role? Is it like is it 169 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: just a trust factor that everybody has. Yeah, yeah, there's 170 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: a lot of accountability and at the same time, it 171 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: just gives you a lot of just creative freedom you know, 172 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: to be yourself and not try to uh you know, 173 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: copy with someone else thinks or just because you know, hey, 174 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: the general manager feels this way about a player, I 175 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: need to feel this way about a player. It's it's 176 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: just not like that, you know. It's it's not that 177 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: type of environment. And that's just not the type of 178 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: culture that they we're trying to create. And uh, and 179 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: that's how Ozzy was. You know, Assie, I think he's 180 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: a he's a Hall of Famer as a player, and 181 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I think he's a Hall of Famer as an executive 182 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: as well. You know, Um, he's done an outstanding job. 183 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: And and Joe he has a lot of those same qualities. 184 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, how many Super Bowl rings do you f 185 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I've got to, you got, you got too? And what 186 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: were the common traits between the two very different teams? Yeah, 187 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: two very different teams. Um, you know, honestly, the main 188 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: common trade in my opinion was ray Lewis. I mean 189 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: it was two very different uh you know, points of 190 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: his career. Um, he was in his prime during the 191 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: two thousand Super Bowl and it was it was the 192 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: end of his career and the domination the Giants down 193 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: at Tam Yeah, absolutely absolutely, Um, and that was totally 194 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, defensive domination, but historically defense, no doubt, no doubt. 195 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: And then you know, Ray was such an inspiration in 196 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve, Um, he got hurt and it 197 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: came back and you know, it was just it was 198 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: it was a great story. But he was he was 199 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: a great leader. He was a great leader on the team. 200 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: And not to take away from any of the great 201 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: players on either one of those teams, but that was 202 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: the common the common denominator I thought for both of them. 203 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: You know, is that what can that do for a 204 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: team to have not only I'm not even talking about 205 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: ray lewis the player, but ray lewis the leader Because 206 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: I feel like in the NFL, just hearing especially Joe 207 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: and everyone talk about the vision for the Jets moving forward, 208 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: a lot of it is bringing the right guys in 209 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: and making sure that it's the right person before it's 210 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: the right player. So to have that kind of leadership. 211 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: You said, it's a common denominator for two Super Bowl rings? 212 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: What does that do for a team? Oh, I mean, 213 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: I think it's just it's invaluable. It's just, um, you know, 214 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: when you have a player like him or I mean 215 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to really compare him as a leader 216 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: to any other player. But um, when you have a 217 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: player that's a leader, um and can can inspire people, 218 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: can inspire players to play above their head. Um, I 219 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: think it's it's always a great thing, you know what 220 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean, And just and for it not to be 221 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: too big of a moment for the player, you know 222 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think Ray kind of he 223 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: really handcapsulated that every day, you know what I mean, 224 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: It's something else. How much does it resonate with you 225 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: when Joe says we want to build this into the 226 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: best culture and professional sports, no doubt. I mean, that's 227 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: just I mean, that's that's something that you just work 228 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: on every day, you know what I mean, and you 229 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: you try to be consistent with it, and you know, 230 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: it starts at the hop and Joe has done a 231 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: great job of creating that culture. I think Adams done 232 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: a great job of creating that culture. And uh, when 233 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: you got you know, two guys that are up there 234 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: and that are you know, doing it together, you know, 235 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: hand in hand and side by side, it's like you know, 236 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: when their egos in a check it's like nobody else's 237 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: ego can really get above that, you know what I mean? 238 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: And uh, I think it's really important. You had multiple 239 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: roles in you're a successful run in Baltimore. Now we're 240 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: at the Scouting Combine and we talked about here at 241 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: the beginning, what was life like for you on the 242 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: road because you were scout all over the place in 243 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: the United States, right right, No doubt you probably have 244 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: some good food recommendations across the country. Yeah, I know, 245 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: I know what to get spot, grab a bite to you, 246 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. I mean I started and uh start 247 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: on the road in two thousand three, and I was 248 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: an area scout. I was a West Coast area scout 249 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. So I lived in Vegas, UM, and 250 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: that was cool. That was a good experience. Um, you know, 251 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: great airport and stuff. The reason I wanted to live 252 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: in Vegas because it was a little bit cheaper than 253 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: living like in California or something like that. Great airport. Yeah, yeah, 254 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: you want you want to live next to a great airport. 255 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: So I did the West for three years. Man, that 256 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: was a great experience, and then ended up moving back 257 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: to Baltimore and I did the Midwest from Baltimore, UM, 258 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: and then I did the Midwest from Memphis, Tennessee, and 259 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: then I ended up doing the Southeast from Memphis and 260 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: so yeah, so moved around a lot, and I've been 261 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: to a lot of different areas, a lot of different schools, man. 262 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: But it's just it's just you know, great experience. Man. 263 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: You get to see how, you know, the football culture 264 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: is in different areas of the country, and I think 265 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. What do you tell young bucks about 266 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: life on the road. The guys are coming up much 267 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: like yourself, and they probably look at a guy like 268 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Chad Alexander and say, hey, I want I want to 269 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: be like Him's all right, Well, I think it's just 270 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: important that you uh you know, you you you get 271 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: your work done while it's fresh in your mind so 272 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: that night. I mean, it's it's a grind. It really 273 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: is a grind. Like it's not really glamorous at all 274 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: because you're you're starting out at the school. You go 275 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: to school, you spend maybe eight hours at a school, 276 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: and then you drive you might have to drive another 277 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: hour to a hotel and uh, you still gotta you know, 278 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: you might want to get a workout in or something 279 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: like that. Had to grab some food, but you still 280 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: gotta get your work done. So you know, you're at 281 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: your computer typing up your guys, typing up your prospects. 282 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's important really to get those prospects 283 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: graded while it's fresh in your mind. You know what 284 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean when you watch the tape that I have 285 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: two questions for you. First of all, I don't know 286 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: if you know it off the top of your head. 287 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: How many of the fifty states have you been to? 288 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, close though, close to fifty? Uh yeah, 289 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: close to fifty. I mean not Alaska, you know, not. 290 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Let's see, there's some there's some states in New England 291 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: I haven't been to. Okay, so it's close. What about Hawaii? 292 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Actually did the Hula Bay that's a good excuse to 293 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: get over there. It was great. It was awesome. I 294 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: got married in a while during the during the Hula Bow. Yeah, 295 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: during the week of the Hula Bow was in Honolulu. Yeah, 296 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: so it was pretty cool. And Hula they actually had 297 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: it in Maui one year two so that was cool. Okay. 298 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: My second question, life on the road. How difficult is 299 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: it to maintain a healthy lifestyle because I feel like 300 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: I feel like when we go on the road just 301 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: for for games, it's hard to maintain a healthy lifestyle. 302 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: To begin with. You gotta wake up early, work out. 303 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to eat off the rails. But then you know, 304 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: you gotta order something healthy if you want to be healthy. Yeah, 305 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's tough, you know what I mean. 306 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: I think the most important thing is you gotta make 307 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: sure you know, you get enough sleep obviously, you know 308 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, so that you're able to function and 309 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: do your job in the morning. Uh, because you know, 310 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: like I said, it's a grind and you're living out 311 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: of the suitcase and you're you're you're going to you're 312 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: sleeping in a different bed every night. Basically, you must 313 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: be a phenomenal packer. I mean, I can do it 314 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: real quick when I can. It's a gift and occurse 315 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: to be honest, what you meant, because I cut it 316 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: close sometimes getting to the airport and stuff. But I 317 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: mean I got it down to the science pretty much. 318 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Let's let's go way back and talk about your dad, 319 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: Hubbard Alexander, a legendary coach. Um. Can you elaborate on 320 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: some of the stops he had along the way, And 321 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: what are some of the foremost things you took from 322 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: your dad? Yeah, you know, my dad rest in peace. 323 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: He was he was a He was a great dad. Um. 324 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I considered him like my best friend, you know what 325 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean. He was a great father. He's a great husband. 326 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: But you know, he was he was a great coach. 327 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: He was a part of UH two championship programs at 328 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: one at once at the University of Miami. He went 329 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: to UH national championship ranks. UH coach there for ten years, 330 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: and then he went to the Dallas Cowboys and actually 331 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: won three Super Bowl ranks as an assistant coach. And Uh, 332 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: the one common threat I would think is just that 333 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: the continuity of those staffs, you know what I mean, 334 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: Like you got to see the way that the guys 335 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: appreciated each other with the way they worked together. Uh, 336 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the way they kind of leaned on each other, and 337 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: they held each other accountable and uh, you know, in 338 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: the standard that they have, you know, for the players 339 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: and also for themselves. I mean, it was it was 340 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal to watch it. Your dad did some damage 341 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: as a recruiter as well, right, helping getting those guys 342 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: to the Yeah. Yeah, he's a great recruiter, man. You know, 343 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: he recruited uh, Jerome Brown who ended up being a 344 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: first round picked for the Eagles. He recruited uh, you know, 345 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: he coach Michael Irvin at the You recruited Russell Maryland. 346 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: He recruited Cortez Kennedy. So, I mean he recruited some 347 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: great players there. What made him such a fantastic coaching 348 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: And also, can you talk about his sons of humor 349 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: because that's something something that something in the pass that 350 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: you've mentioned about your dad was that he had it. 351 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: He did. He had he had that hit factor, you 352 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. He was he could keep the 353 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: mood light, you know what I mean. He was real, 354 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: real funny um and he could just relate to anybody, 355 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, on any level, you know, from any different background. 356 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: And I thought that's what made him so special. And 357 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: I love coming to the events like this to combine 358 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: because people always want to remind me about my dad 359 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: and talk about my dad, guys that work with him 360 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Man, I think it's real cool, 361 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean, yeah, that's kind of keeping 362 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: his legend alive, you know, it's uh, but he was. 363 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: He was hilarious. Yeah, he was funny, dude. He was 364 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: funny dude. Was he the reason that you wanted to 365 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: get into football on on this side, the administrative side? Yeah, 366 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean at first I thought I might 367 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: want to be a coach, you know what I mean. 368 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: So I kind of wanted to follow his footsteps and 369 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: being a coach. But uh, an opportunity came about where 370 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: when I got done in college. Um, one of the 371 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: guys that he worked with, John Wootton, who he worked 372 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: with in Dallas, uh, was actually working at the Baltimore 373 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: Ravens at the time, and you know, offered me, you know, 374 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: an entry level position and scouting and it was just 375 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, hey, yeah, I'll take the opportunity, 376 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was, you know, 377 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the rest is kind of history, and it was a 378 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: great opportunity to say, how did he coach a young 379 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Chad growing up? Because it's funny, you know. Van Jefferson 380 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: was at the podium today and he talked about Sean Jefferson, 381 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the Jets wide receiver coach. He said, my dad coached 382 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: me up hard. He told me that he told me 383 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: the same thing in mob and and and after. It's 384 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna prepare me for the next step. But with that 385 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: being said, how did your dad go about teaching him something? Yeah, 386 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: it was like it was pretty no nonsense. Man. He coached. 387 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: The coach was pretty hard, you know. I mean, me 388 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: and my two brothers we all played football, so, uh 389 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: it was it was a lot of fun, you know 390 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. But he had he had a high 391 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: standard for us, you know, and uh, coach is hard. 392 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: And he didn't you know, he didn't cut any corners. 393 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: He told us the truth about it. You know. If 394 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: you if you thought we were performing well, we weren't 395 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: performing well. So, I mean, he kept it real with 396 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: us for sure. Well, I'm sure when you're coaching guys 397 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: like Michael Irvin, some of that's gonna go home and 398 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna want you to be the past. There's no doubt. Man. 399 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: He coached some great ones, man, Michael Irvin, he coached uh, 400 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, Randy Moss obviously with them a sort of 401 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: vic as he coached Joe Horne with the New or 402 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Own Saints. Mean, he coached some really great players along 403 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: the way. And it's funny we're talking about why receivers 404 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: is a little bit here. There are some guys. This 405 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: is a pretty deep class. I'm not gonna ask your 406 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: specifics about any of the guys, but just overall. Joe 407 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: Douglas was at the podium today in Indianapolis and he 408 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: said that this is a good class. And you talk 409 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: to anybody on the floor here, like, yeah, this is 410 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: one of the more impressive ones we've seen at Sometimes 411 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. There's no doubt. Man extremely talented, you 412 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm getting caught up watching tape 413 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: on a lot of these guys, but I mean, yeah, 414 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's an extremely deep class, you know. 415 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: And you see him watching walking across the post, walking 416 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: across the stage, You're like, well, you know the guy 417 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: you can to That guy has been working out, he's 418 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: been training and stuff, and you know, I'm just really 419 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: interested to see how they how they run and how 420 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: they perform on it, or how they compete, how they 421 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: work out. You know, so real quick, I know this 422 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: is the combine and we're indian in Indianapolis, and I 423 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about some of a little a little 424 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: more combine. But how do you balance your time, knowing 425 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: that this is in preparation for April, but before the 426 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: draft is free agency, right, Uh, well, I mean we've 427 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: done a lot of preparation for free agency already, UM 428 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: and Greg Nasman has done a great job with the 429 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: Pro Department, and you know, our coaches have also done 430 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: evaluations on the free agency that are going to be available. 431 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: So we've done the work on it. You know, we 432 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: still we're still working on it. We're still like doing 433 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: more research on guys and still watching more tape find 434 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: out as much information as we can. But the majority 435 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: of the works already been done, you know what I mean, 436 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, it started like really towards 437 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: the end of the season, so that stuff is already 438 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: kind of completed before we even before we started like 439 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: the college process, going to the Senior Bowl meetings and 440 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: then and then the combine. How much have you enjoyed 441 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: working with some of these guys? Obviously we knew that 442 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit her off with the head honcho and 443 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas, but Rex Hogan assistant GM, and then Phil 444 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: Savage is a guy you're quite familiar with as well. 445 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: He was a scouting director and uh, in Baltimore and 446 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: then he was the director of player personnel. Feels a 447 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: great guy. Rex is a guy that I had met, 448 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: you know, on the road and stuff like that in 449 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: years passed. And Rex is awesome, dude, you know what 450 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: I mean. And uh, you know, I'm just really excited 451 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: to be working with those guys. Um great guys. You know, 452 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: they've got great families, and it's it's it's it's funny. 453 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's really become like a family environment 454 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: really quickly, you know what I mean. And I think 455 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: that's uh, I think that's the recipe for for great 456 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: things to happen, you know what I mean. How about 457 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: your playing days? I why did I ask you about 458 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: about Wake four? Yeah, you stayed right around home, right base. 459 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: He grew up in the area, didn't you know. I didn't. 460 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: Actually I grew up in Dallas and in Miami well 461 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: with with your dad. But my dad's from Winston, so 462 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, he had roots there and my my had 463 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: family that I've got. I've got family in Winston. It 464 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: was awesome plan it, Wake, I mean, you know, we 465 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun, you know, spent five years there. Uh, 466 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: it was you know, we had. We didn't win, We 467 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: didn't win a whole lot of games, but we kind 468 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: of set the crowd, you know, the uh, the platform 469 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: for them to win some games. And they went to 470 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: a bowl. And uh also just you know, playing for 471 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: coach carl Well, Jim Carwell. He was a great coach, 472 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: and uh, it was everything came full circle because when 473 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: I was the assistant director of properson in Baltimore, coach 474 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: Carlwell actually came one as the quarterback coach. Then he 475 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: became the coordinate offensive coordinator and then we want to ring. 476 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: So I mean it was it was really cool. Give 477 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: me a report the same thing. You don't want one 478 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, we take scouts. You know, don't use 479 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: average too much, but definitely you would use the average 480 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: a lot about me. But now it was, you know what, 481 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: I played hard, you know what I mean, And I 482 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: actually moved around. I played. I came in as a 483 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: tight end, and then I moved to fullback, you know 484 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. And then I played some D line, 485 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: so I played kind of all over, you know what 486 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: I mean. You know they say if you've got more 487 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: than one position, you really don't have one. So you 488 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, but it was it was cool. Man. 489 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: I played with a lot of great players, played against 490 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of great players, and uh, you know, we 491 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun. I want to know what 492 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: your forty time would have been in your heyday. Man. 493 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: See if I if I pull that out, man, people 494 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: might think of lying or something like that. Man, I 495 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: mean I could run, man, Yeah, I want to hear it. Yeah. 496 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: Now you have to say what was your playing with 497 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: If you don't know, it was a lot lighter than 498 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: m right now, you know what I mean? It was 499 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: probably I don't know, playing with probably like to two 500 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: thirties or something like that. Five and you're running four 501 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: or fives, like four or five four. I'm like, if 502 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: you didn't answer, I was gonna tell everyone you're gonna 503 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: go four three, right you said? People wouldn't believe you. 504 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but it's all good. I mean. One thing 505 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: that uh we uh we did was we trained hard. 506 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: You know what. We ran hard. We played hard, you 507 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And we and a lot of 508 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: the guys that were on the team, they actually you know, 509 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: they ran track and they competed in a sec uh 510 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: track you know, track meets and stuff like that. So 511 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: then we had we had a fast team. We had 512 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: a real fast What about you ever get up to 513 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: the bar and see how many times you can throw 514 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: that around? I pushed it up like nineteen times something 515 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, its casual. How many today? Like if 516 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: we go to the bench right now, three or four on? 517 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not really not trying to do that 518 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, but you know, you know what though, 519 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: we get a lot of people in on this. I 520 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: I've heard about of a workout group at the complex 521 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: that's Justice Gelic. Yeah, the Jets personnel guys in there 522 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: for a workout. So what do you guys doing there? 523 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: And how many times a week they take it to 524 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: They take us through it two times a week, so 525 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: we work out on Tuesday and Thursday's uh Injustice and 526 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: those guys may do a great job, you know what 527 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: I mean, just kind of taking us through the different drills. Man, 528 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: you're doing a circuit or what it's a circuit. I 529 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: try to block it out of my mind, to be 530 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: honest with you, man, so I don't really remember like 531 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: sprints and stuff. And then we get like you know, 532 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: we get on the weights and do like you know, 533 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: bench press and some squat and stuff like that. It's fun. 534 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of fun. Man, It's it's kind 535 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: of competitive. It's a lot more fun than just working 536 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: out by yourself. And lastly, we gotta let you go 537 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: because you've got other work to take care of her. 538 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: In Indianapolis, everybody talks about the famous restaurant here sat 539 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: Al most you give us a review, the shrimp cock though. 540 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: Shrimp cocktail. It's great, you know what I mean, It's awesome, 541 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a lot you know, 542 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's real spicy. Man. You gotta be careful, 543 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It always always kind of 544 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: catches you off guard, you know, the first time, first 545 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: bite that you take, you know what I mean. And 546 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: don't try to drink water because that just makes it work. 547 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have told people that. You should have said, 548 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: get as much of the cocktail sauce as possible. Right, 549 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: I've shed a few tears at saying yeah, it's it's 550 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting if you know, if you know, you know, yeah, 551 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. It's good though. 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