1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal podcast Network. Now get ready for another episode 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: of Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. The thoughts and 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: opinions expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: and do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast A out, employees of 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: premier networks or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: to do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. You read find the 10 00:00:53,640 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: Wizard of Weird. This is Strange Things Warren. I am 11 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Joshua B. Warren, and each week on this show I'll 12 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, 13 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 14 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the program, The Little People, 15 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: I want to read something to you that was written 16 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: by an irishman in eighteen fifty. Up the airy Mountain, 17 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: down the rushy glen, we dare not go a hunting 18 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: for fear of little men. We folk, good folk, trooping 19 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: all together, green jacket, red cap and white owl's feather. 20 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Down along the rocky shore. Some make their home. They 21 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: live on crispy pancakes of yellow tide foam, some in 22 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: the reeds of the Black Mountain lake, with frogs for 23 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: their watchdogs. All night awake, high on the hilltop, the 24 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: old king sits. He is now so old and gray, 25 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: he's nearly lost his wits. With a bridge of white 26 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: mist column kill, he crosses on his stately journeys from 27 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Sleeve League to Ross's, or going up with the music 28 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: on cold starry nights to sup with the Queen of 29 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: the gay northern lights. They stole little Bridget for seven 30 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: years long. When she came down again, her friends were 31 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: all gone. They took her lightly back between the night 32 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: and morrow. They thought that she was fast asleep, but 33 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: she was dead with sorrow. They have kept her ever since, 34 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: deep within the lake on a bed of fig leaves, 35 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: watching till she wake by the craggy hillside, through the 36 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: mosses bare. They have planted thorn trees for my pleasure here, 37 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: and there is any man so daring as to dig 38 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: them up in spite he shall find their sharpest thorns 39 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: in his bed at night, up the airy mountain, down 40 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: the rushy glen, we dare not go a hunting for 41 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: fear of little men. We folk, good folk, trooping all together, 42 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: green jacket, red cap, and white owl's feather. That was 43 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: written by an Irish poet named William Allingham called the 44 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Fairies Again eighteen fifty. Interesting, isn't it to put yourself 45 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: in his mindset that long ago? When I talked about 46 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: little people in this show, I'm talking about lepre cons, elves, brownies, 47 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: fairy folk. People have lots of different names for them, 48 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: including some you've probably never heard before that I'm going 49 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: to share with you. I remember the first time in 50 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: my life that a woman I believed, a lady who 51 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: was a successful professional and seemed absolutely rational to me, 52 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: told me about her encounters with the little people. Now. 53 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: I was a teenager then, and I was signing copies 54 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: of a book I had written at a small bookstore 55 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: in western North Carolina. She came in to see me, 56 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: and we ended up talking for quite some time. She 57 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: was very well spoken, seemed quite normal. She was probably 58 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: in her fifties, and at one point she looked me 59 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: right in the eye and she told me an unbelievable story. 60 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: She said that she had grown up in Lake Lure, 61 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: North Carolina, which is in the mountains of the western 62 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: part of the state where I'm from. Now, let me 63 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: just pause to say Lake Lure is an extremely mystical 64 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: enchanting place. It was always considered so by the Native 65 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: Americans and to this day. I mean, when you go there, 66 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to describe the feeling that you get. You 67 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: just look around and you know it. It's sort of 68 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: like you've stepped into another dimension around you know, Chimney Rock, 69 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: which a lot of psychics say is of vortex of 70 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: some kind, big paranormal hotspot. Everything you can imagine there. 71 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: I could do a whole hour on just Lake Lure. 72 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: I've even led expeditions to this site. So that sets 73 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the stage, like she is telling me about a really 74 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: unusual special place. So she said that when she was 75 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: growing up in Lake Lore, that her family kind of 76 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: lived off in the woods and they had a really 77 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: nice old house, and that one day when she was 78 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: a kid. I don't know, she didn't tell me exactly 79 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: how old she was, but she said, you know, I 80 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: got the impression she was old enough to no fact 81 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: from fiction. Um, her parents were sort of off on 82 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: another part of the property doing something. So she more 83 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: or less had the house kind of to herself, and 84 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: she walked into the living room dining room area, and 85 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: she said that there must have been ten or twelve 86 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: little people, and I'm talking about she described them as 87 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: being twelve inches tall or less, but proportioned as you know, 88 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: fully fully grown adults wearing little outfits, and they were 89 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: just running around having a ball. She said. A couple 90 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: looked like they were dancing. There was one or two 91 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: that we're trying to get one of the cupboards open. 92 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: She said, there was one or two swinging from the chandelier. 93 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, it reminds me of that movie, 94 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: the old Disney film uh Darby O. Gill and the 95 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Little People. If you've never seen that, you should check 96 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: it out. And she said that she was just, you know, 97 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: obviously stunned and delighted, and it took them a few 98 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: minutes to see her, and when they did, boom, they 99 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: all scattered. And she told her parents about this, and 100 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: of course they didn't believe her, but she said there 101 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: was at least one or two other occasions when during 102 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: the afternoon she would walk into a part of the 103 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: house and she would see some of them milling around, 104 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: and she said she'd never had any other paranormal experiences 105 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: in her entire life, but but that was something very real, 106 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: and she just told me that, very matter of factly, 107 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure what to make of it, because 108 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I'd never had a person stand there in front of 109 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: me and tell me something like that before. However, just 110 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: a few years after that, one of my best friends, 111 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: he was the brother of another one of my best friends. 112 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: His name was Corey. I'm sure he's fine with me 113 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: using his name. Um. Corey and one of his buddies 114 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: were out fishing there in the mountains, in the Blue 115 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: Ridge Mountains, and he said that they had like this 116 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: little secret fishing hole they'd found, and so it was 117 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: really off the beaten path. And you know how these 118 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: how guys are when they find their secret fishing hall. 119 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, they don't tell anybody where that is, and 120 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: they like it if it's kind of remote. So he 121 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: and his buddy were sitting there fishing, no trace of 122 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: anybody else in the entire area, and then at one 123 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: point they just look up and to their shock, on 124 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: this rock in the middle of the stream, there is 125 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: a little man and he's just sort of squatting down. 126 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: They said, he looked like he might be a little 127 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: you know, like a foot and a half to two 128 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: ft tall, but again a well proportioned little man, wearing 129 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: like a on the cap and a little bage kind 130 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: of outfit. Just sort of he's sitting there, sort of 131 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: crouched on this stone, looking at them quietly, and they 132 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: could see him clear as day. It wasn't like he 133 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: was off the distance. So one of them said something 134 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: to him like, hey there, you know, or whatever, and 135 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: didn't get much of a reaction. And this started to 136 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: become a little creepy that the little man just sort 137 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: of sitting there watching them and not saying anything. Well, 138 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: the water wasn't all that deep if you knew how 139 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: to tread across the stream. So he got up and 140 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: started walking across the water, you know, across the creek 141 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: bed there. And at that point a little man stood 142 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: up and hopped over to another rock. And so the 143 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: next thing you know, he and his buddy go chasing 144 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: after this little man, and the little man is hopping 145 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: from rock to rock, and he kind of gets over 146 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: to the embankment and just he's gone. They said, I 147 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: don't know, we don't know if he just de materialized 148 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: or we don't know what happened to him. But you know, 149 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: one one second, you know, we're chasing this little guy 150 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: over the rocks, and then next thing you know, he's gone. Now, 151 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. These are guys I've known, 152 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, for years up to this point. Corey is 153 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: the same age as my little sister Jessica, so I've 154 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: basically known him his whole life. He's not the kind 155 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: of guy who makes things up. Uh, he's hits. So 156 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: of course he told me this, and then I remembered 157 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: what the woman had told me about Lake Lure, you know, 158 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: living in that area, and what happened to her. And 159 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: I started thinking, Okay, is is there something to this? 160 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: But then okay, now, uh, probably like a year later, 161 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: I was in Barnardsville, North Carolina. All this stuff i'm 162 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: telling you about's happening in the mountains of western North Carolina, 163 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: because again that's I grew up. I was in Barnardsville 164 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: at this big private mountain the state called gray Stone, 165 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: which was created by Johnny and Cindy Caps. And when 166 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: we come back from this break, I'm gonna tell you 167 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: what Johnny Capps told me he's no longer with us, 168 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: but he told me this, and he told me this 169 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: on video, what he saw when he was operating the 170 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: bulldozer carving his way up onto this mountain to build 171 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: his estate, and why it gave him goose bumps every 172 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: time he talked about it. And then I want to 173 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: share with you a story about a woman. Okay, she 174 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: wrote me the story and said she saw a hobgoblin. 175 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you these accounts and then some thoughts 176 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: on what the heck is going on here? What are 177 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: these things? Who are the little people? I want you 178 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: to remember. Now you can only access some of my 179 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: breaking news and content and experiments if you subscribe to 180 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: my free E newsletter. It's free and spam free. Takes 181 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,239 Speaker 1: you two seconds. Go to Joshua P. 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I 230 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: am your host, the Wizard of Weird, beaming into your 231 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: worm whole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 232 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 233 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: And let me tell you I knew Johnny Capps very well. 234 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: He was a friend. I spent a lot of time 235 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: with him. As I mentioned he passed away. Johnny Capps 236 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: was a big, burly mountain man. He he looked like, 237 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, a hardy version of Kenny Rogers with the 238 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: white beard. He always carried a gun on his side. 239 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: And in his early days he worked in construction and 240 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: he was a professional bulldozer operator, and so he definitely 241 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: knew his way around heavy machinery. And he had been 242 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: in all kinds of you know, tough environments, uh, working 243 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: really hard throughout his life. And uh he made enough 244 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: money to invest in this mountain where he decided he 245 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: would make his dream come true and create kind of 246 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: a resort there in Barnardsville, North Carolina called gray Stone Cabins. 247 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: And you can still go there today, and you should 248 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: go there today if you want a real mountain getaway. 249 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you him many units I've spent at 250 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: gray Stone cabins. But because Johnny was such a confident 251 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: bulldozer operator when he was creating gray Stone. And I 252 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: don't know what year this was, I can't remember. I'm 253 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: my guess is it would be maybe like around the 254 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: early nineteen nineties. Often he would get out, Uh he'd 255 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: get up in the morning and get on his bulldozer 256 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: just by himself. And and this is a big, big 257 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: mountain and he had to carve out a long, long 258 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: winding road going up this mountain and he would just 259 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: work all day by himself. He enjoyed it. And Johnny 260 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: would smoke a lot of cigarettes. And he told me, 261 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: and again he sat down with me, and this is, 262 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: you know, when he was I got to know him 263 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: when he was, you know, getting up in there in 264 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: his years at least uh well, you know, basically he 265 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: was looking back on how this whole thing had come together. 266 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: And and Johnny said, I was on the bulldozer one day, 267 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: and and he told me this on camera. There were 268 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of witnesses and he actually told me this 269 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: a number of times all camera. I was on the 270 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: bulldozer one day, I stopped in the afternoon to just 271 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: relax for a minute smoke a cigarette, and he said, 272 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: I lit my cigarette and I looked to my left, 273 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: and he said, a chill ran down my spine because 274 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: just about ten or fifteen feet away there was this 275 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: little man standing beside this big oak tree. Now again, 276 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about a situation where Johnny Capps was in 277 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, Okay, no sign of any other 278 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: houses or anything or visible in any direction. And this 279 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: little man, I think Johnny said, he was maybe you know, 280 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: two two and a half feet tall at the most 281 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: same kind of deal. A little man is wearing sort 282 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: of like beige or brownish clothes, little brown cap. And 283 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: he said that the thing that freaked him out the 284 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: most was the little man had this big ear to 285 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: ear grin on his face. And Johnny said, it just 286 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: gave me the goose pumps. He says, I reached for 287 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: my pistol immediately. Now, now think about this. Johnny Capps 288 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: was a big guy. I'm gonna say he was easily 289 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, six ft three, a rugged mountain man. And 290 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: yet why did he get this paying of fear just 291 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: by seeing this little man. It reminds you of the poem, 292 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: doesn't it, for fear of little Men. There's something about 293 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: these guys that somehow seems freaky, almost like they have 294 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: a superior quality to us. And Johnny said, like, what 295 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: do you want? And the little guy just kind of 296 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: turned a little bit and then he was gone, disappeared. Well, 297 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: this happened on a couple more occasions. And by the way, 298 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: it's interesting that Johnny was smoking a cigarette because you 299 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: often hear that these little people they like tobacco. So 300 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: if if you leave out like some good pipe tobacco 301 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: in a in a very you know, wooded or rural area, 302 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: you might be able to attract him. Apparently they also 303 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: like whiskey. I don't know if you'd want to attract him, 304 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: but that's what they say. So maybe it's like the 305 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: you know, the smell of of Johnny's cigarette or whatever. 306 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: But he saw the little man on two more occasions. 307 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: Um one time it was the same kind of deal. 308 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: The little guy was just sort of watching him next 309 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: to a tree. And then there was another occasion when 310 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: he had built a little bridge across the stream, and 311 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: the little man was sort of checking out the bridge, 312 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: and right after that Johnny got a couple of big 313 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: dogs and that's when the little man disappeared. So I 314 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: don't think these little people like big dogs for obvious reasons. Now, again, 315 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: this is a person that I knew very well for 316 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: years telling me this, And if you put yourself in 317 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: my position, even though I've never seen anything like that, um, 318 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: it makes you start to wonder about just how you 319 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: know realistic these stories? Maybe? And I got this email 320 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: that came in from a listener last uh last year 321 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: that I think might put a very interesting add an 322 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: interesting element to this. I just want to read this 323 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: to you. It's a little bit lengthy, but it definitely interesting. 324 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: Came from a woman named Kathleen. I have her her 325 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: whole name and her phone number and everything, but I'll 326 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: just give out her first name. She said, that's cool. 327 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: Her name is Kathleen, and she had this experience in California. 328 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: She wrote, everything I'm about to tell you took place 329 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: in a matter of minutes. Also, I must admit, had 330 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: there not been another human present to verify everything I'm 331 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: about to tell you, I would for the rest of 332 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: my life questioned and doubted what I experienced with my 333 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: own two eyes. My ten year old son, and I 334 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: had recently moved into what appeared to be a normal 335 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: three bedroom, two bath home, front room, dining room, kitchen, 336 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: family room, to car garage on a quiet little court 337 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: and a quiet little town called Milpitas, which was snuggled 338 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: right between San Jose in Fremont, right on the border 339 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: of the Santa Clara County Alameda County line. The lady 340 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: that rented me the house had evicted her son. He 341 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: was not happy about that. He started terrorizing me and 342 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: my son at all hours of the day and night, 343 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: banging on the door demanding to be let in, saying 344 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: he still had belongings in the house, which he did not. 345 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: It soon became apparent that I needed not only a 346 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: gardener to help with this large property, but a babysitter 347 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: and now a bodyguard. Well. Larry, my girlfriend's brother, needed 348 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: a place to stay. We had all gone to high 349 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: school together in the sixties, so in exchange for a 350 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: free rent, I got a gardener, babysitter, and bodyguard, as 351 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: well as repair man and painter. L O. L. The 352 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: sun who was evicted was very volatile. He punched holes 353 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: in all the walls and doors, so in lieu of 354 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: a cleaning deposit and or security deposit. We agreed that 355 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: I would paint and patch the walls. So this one evening, 356 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: Larry and I put all the furniture in the center 357 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: of the front room and covered it with sheets and 358 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: started patching and repairing the holes in the wall so 359 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: we could paint. We have been working for hours. It 360 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: was a little after midnight. We decided to take a break. 361 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: I went into the hallway, entered the first door on 362 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: the left, which was the bathroom. I then left the 363 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: bathroom and made her right to continue down the hall, 364 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: passed the door on the left, which my ten year 365 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: old son was sleeping in. The door at the end 366 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: of the hall was Larry's room. We had been taking 367 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: the doors off the hinges to repair or replace them. 368 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: My door was on the right. Being a female, I 369 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: had put a curtain rod with thick curtains over my 370 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: door for privacy. With my left hand, I pulled the 371 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: curtains to the side and let out a blood curdling scream. 372 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: There was a creature standing on the other side of 373 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: the door. He was a little taller than my waist, 374 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: about the size of a five year old. His hands 375 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: were clenched and fists on each side of his head 376 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: by his ears, and he was staring at me as 377 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: if to dare me to enter the room. His hair 378 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: was dark but sparse. I could see his leathery scalp 379 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: like the tech drive an old worn football. He had 380 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: a thick leather strap across his chest like a sash, 381 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: no shirt. His teeth were yellow, his eyes were squinty 382 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: and yellowed. His ears were pointed. His pants looked like 383 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: they were made of deer skin. He had moved away 384 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: from the door, back about six ft to the middle 385 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: of the room. I didn't see him move. He was 386 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: just in front of me one minute, and then about 387 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: six ft away the next. My glance continued towards the 388 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: bottom of his pants, and it was then that I 389 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: saw he had no feet. It was a mist. He 390 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: was disappearing from the feet right up before my eyes, 391 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: and I let go of the curtain, ran back down 392 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: the hall toward Larry. I can't even imagine look on 393 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: my face. And before I could say a word, Larry 394 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: says to me, you saw that little you know, what 395 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: didn't you? And I'm like, what do you mean? What 396 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: did you see? And he described the creature to a t. 397 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Everything I saw, he saw, He said, he saw it 398 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: run from the dining room down the hall. Why didn't 399 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: you warn me? I said, why didn't you tell me? 400 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: He says, I thought I might have been having some 401 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties acid flashback. L O L. When we come 402 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: back from this break, I'm gonna tell you what happens 403 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: in the end of the story, and then we're gonna 404 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: put all this stuff into context. A leprechauns elves, brownies, 405 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: fairy folk, hobgoblins. Some seem relatively harmless, some a little 406 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: more spooky, but mm hmm, certainly not always physical biological creatures. 407 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. The way that you and I know what 408 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: could they be? Then we'll see. 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U welcome back to Strange Things on 436 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio at Coast to coastal m never 437 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: a normal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua Pete Warren, 438 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. 439 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: Kathleen says. We lived in the house for another couple 440 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: of years. I never saw that creature again, but we 441 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: heard him constantly. You could hear his footsteps running from 442 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: the garage, through the dining room, down the hallway toward 443 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: the master bedroom. I gave him the master bedroom, took 444 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: my bed and put it in the family room, just 445 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: used the master bedroom as a dressing room and use 446 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: the shower and bathroom. There always creep me out, felt 447 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: like I was being watched. You would think this would 448 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: be the end of the story. But flash forward to 449 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: two thousand six. They were showing the first Harry Potter 450 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: movie on TV. I had never seen any of the 451 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: movies yet, imagine my surprise when the scene in the 452 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: movie shows Harry going into the bank in the witches 453 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: and Warlock's dimension. I could not believe my eyes. The 454 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: creatures that were the bankers were the same creature I 455 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: had seen back in nineteen eighty nine in the house. 456 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: They were identical. What were they called goblins to be exact. 457 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: This one was a hobgoblin. These are supposed to be 458 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: fairytale stuff, not supposed to be real. I have no explanation, 459 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: but like I said, had Larry not been there, I 460 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: would question to my dying day if this truly happened. 461 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: But I have a witness. I hope you enjoy my story. Yes, 462 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. Thank you, Kathleen, Thank you. What do 463 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: you think doesn't sound quite physical there, doesn't you know? 464 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: The Cherokee was or yeah, man. The Cherokee are one 465 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: of the most prominent tribes from western North Carolina. We 466 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: now have the Eastern band of the Cherokee there, and 467 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: the Cherokee always talked about what they called the moon 468 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: eyed people. If you look it up, Wikipedia says the 469 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: moon eyed people are a legendary group of people from 470 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: Cherokee tradition who are said to have lived in Appalachia 471 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: until the Cherokee expelled them. It says they are mentioned 472 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: in a seventeen book by Benjamin Smith Barton, who explains 473 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: they are called moon eyed because they saw poorly during 474 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: the day. There was also a writer and researcher named 475 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: James Mooney, ironically, who was born in eighteen sixty one, 476 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: and he spent many years, uh, living with Native American 477 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: tribes all over the country. And in his nineteen hundred book, 478 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: now we're talking about a book published in the year 479 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: nineteen hundred, after he'd been spending years and years in 480 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds living with Cherokee, he had this book 481 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: called Myths of the Cherokee. It was, I mean talking 482 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: about scholarly. This was published by the U. S. Bureau 483 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: of American Ethnology within the Smithsonian Institution. And in that book, 484 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: Mooney said the Cherokee described them as a quote very 485 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: small people, perfectly white end quote. Apparently, the moon eyed 486 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: people were these little pel people who Jim really would 487 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: stay underground because they were sensitive to the light. Now, 488 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: these stories that I've told you seem to contradict that 489 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: because people have seen them, you know, the people that 490 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: I know have seen them when it's daylight. But I 491 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe things have changed over the years. But 492 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: they had their own, you know, version of little people 493 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: and it and it's not just the Cherokee. And and 494 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: also not just little people. The Cherokee also had giants 495 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: like Judicola, uh, you know, which you might even say 496 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: is kind of related to Bigfoot type creatures. That's something 497 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: we'll get into on a future show. But even the 498 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: Hopie Indians of Arizona, they had what they called the 499 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: Aunt People. Uh. There's a website called Ancient Ancient hyphen 500 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: Origins dot net and they wrote, according to the Hopie 501 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: the so called First World or World Age was a 502 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: currently destroyed by fire. So there was some kind of 503 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: age of civilization that they said was destroyed by fire, 504 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: possibly some sort of volcanism and asteroid strike or a 505 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: coronal mass ejection from the sun. The second world was 506 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: destroyed by ice, ice age, glaciers, or a pulse shift. 507 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: And during these two these like two global cataclysms, the 508 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: virtuous members of the Hopie tribe were guided by an 509 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: odd shaped cloud during the day and a moving star 510 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: at night that led them to the sky god, who 511 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: finally took them to the Aunt people. The Aunt people 512 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: then escorted the Hopie into subterranean caves where they found 513 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: refuge and sustenance. Yeah, these stories get weirder and weirder, folks, 514 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: And you say, what are we talking about here? It 515 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: reminds me of what my buddy Jim Mars used to say, 516 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: a little green man runs across the room in the 517 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: middle of a party, and one person says, look a 518 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: leprechron another person says, look a demon, another person says, 519 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: look an alien. People interpret these beings in different ways. 520 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: What we can see is that some of them apparently 521 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: are helpful and rewarding, because you have stories about treasure, 522 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 1: you know, finding the pot of gold or the aunt 523 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: people helping out the hopie. Some are mischievous or even 524 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: downright mean, which I guess makes them just like humans. Right, 525 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: You've got the whole spectrum of of types. But regardless, 526 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: they seem to be magical, don't they. What are these 527 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: little beings? I got an email from a woman named Rosemary, 528 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: and she's really into some of these old stories about 529 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: these really bizarre types of remain means that are found 530 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: of little people or giants and stuff like that. And 531 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: then they pop, They pop up here and there throughout 532 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: the history books and then dead end. The trail just dwindles, 533 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: and um, she's frustrated because you know, she's excited about this. 534 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: But she emailed me and she said, you know, do 535 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: you know how we can find any physical evidence for 536 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: these things? And I wrote her back and I'm gonna 537 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: read you my reply to her, I said to her, 538 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: um quote, I've even helped some of these stories get 539 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: to the media so far, In every case remains turn 540 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: out to be either deformed humans, infants, monkeys, or outright gaffs, 541 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: which are just fakes when examined by credible experts using 542 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: DNA analysis, etcetera. Therefore, I feel that most of these 543 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: beings are not physical. In other words, the types of 544 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: beings that interest you are real, but they are not 545 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: biologically physical in the way you and I are. They 546 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: may appear to be when witnessed, but they are not. 547 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: For example, fire is a real physical thing, but it 548 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: does not leave a skeleton when it dies. Now you 549 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: touch fire, you feel it. It's real, it's physical. It 550 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: doesn't leave a physical skeleton when it dies. Anything that 551 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: may have left a rare physical skeleton was probably purchased 552 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: for some rich person's private collection long ago and is 553 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: either still there or it may have just actually burned 554 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: up in a fire that was very very common in 555 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: in the past, and buildings in quote. So here we go, folks, 556 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: We're back to enter dimensional beings, as exemplified by the 557 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: Hobgoblin story. That's the only way to reconcile all this. 558 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: And another listener named Adjacent he contacted me he's been 559 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: watching Discovery Plus and he pointed out there's a show 560 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: on there called Expedition big Foot, and the season two 561 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: of it has an episode called Paranormal Anomaly. And in 562 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: this episode, a primatologist is in this area where people 563 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: have been seeing Bigfoot, and she has a thermal camera, 564 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: and on the camera you see what looks like some 565 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: tall thing standing there that showing up on thermal and 566 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: even has has little like orb like things circling around 567 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: its head. She sees it clearly on camera. She's got 568 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: a register of its temperature and everything. But when she 569 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: turns on her flesh like there's nothing there. It's invisible 570 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: to the naked eye, but it's showing up on thermal. 571 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 1: And later they go to that location and they actually 572 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: see evidence that something has been making depressions and the 573 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 1: leaves and all that. People have a really hard time 574 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: accepting this interdimensional, semi physical being concept. And and I 575 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: understand that because when these things are physical, okay, they 576 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: seem physical when they are physical, because they are physical 577 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: at that time, and they seem non physical when they 578 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: are non physical, but they are both, and when they die, 579 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: apparently they die in the non physical state. Thus to 580 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: us in this physical world, there is no trace. And 581 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: so what we are ultimately talking about here is this 582 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: concept that you have to become less egocentric. It's not 583 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: like that because you have a physical body, that anything 584 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: else that's real must have a physical body just like 585 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: you do, or it's not real. There are things that 586 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: can switch. I know it sounds irrational. I know that 587 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: right now. There's there's no way to quantify it in 588 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: a laboratory use, in the scientific method, which is what 589 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: makes it seem like BS understandably again to so many people. 590 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 1: But the more we learn about how real phenomena are 591 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: often non physical, well, the easier it should be for 592 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: you to grasp that. I mean, right now, you're surrounded 593 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: by radio waves and they're creating physical reactions. What do 594 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: you think remote control is? Remote control looked like some 595 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of a magical miracle when it was first invented. 596 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: You push a button here and the thing moves over there, 597 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: but there's nothing touching it in between. How does that work? Hey, listen, 598 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 1: when we come back, I want to read some interesting 599 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: emails to you. I got one, for example, from a 600 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: man in Massachusetts. He wrote, Joshua, You're not gonna believe this. 601 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he wrote when we come back. 602 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: I am Joshua pe Warren. You're listening to Strange Things 603 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a 604 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: baron normal podcast network, and I will be all right 605 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: back after this break. Don't go anywhere. There's more Joshua 606 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: pe Warren and Strange Things coming right up. Hey, the 607 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast YouTube channel channel. Go to Coast to 608 00:41:25,719 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: Coast am dot com for more information. Welcome back to 609 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: the final segment of this edition of Strange Things on 610 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio ad Coast to Coast STAM. There 611 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: were Normal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua Pete Warren, 612 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: and you hear me talk sometimes about my buddy Vance Pollock. 613 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: I call him Sherlock Pollock. He is a fantastic sleuth, 614 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: especially an Internet sleuth. And listen to this. Call this 615 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: a public service announcement. He's come up with something that 616 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: you can participate in, either as a game or for research. 617 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: It's a free Facebook group. Anybody can join it, and 618 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: it's called where Is that, and you post a picture 619 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: of anywhere in the world from any point in time, 620 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: and other people try to see if they can figure 621 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: out where it is and or where it was. And 622 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: so you go there and you can look at all 623 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: these pictures that people have posted and maybe you'll recognize something, 624 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: and then you can post stuff of your own and 625 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: its brand new and everybody's loving it. So if you're 626 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: a Facebook person, just go to Facebook dot com, forward 627 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: slash groups, forward slash where is that? You might also 628 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: just be able to search for where is that advance pollock, 629 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: but you will probably find it, And uh, it'd be 630 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: kind of interesting to see what kind of a research 631 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: community we can build using vance pollocks where is That? 632 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to be interviewing him, by the way, about 633 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: some of his adventures on an upcoming edition of the program. 634 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: Here is an email I got from Chris. He says, 635 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: all right, well, I guess it could be a It 636 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: could be a lady as well. Chris says, Dear Josh, 637 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: I listened to your podcast and heard the fortune tone 638 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 1: for the first time. One hour later, my company announced 639 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: we were getting a production bonus for the first time 640 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: in a year. Five hundred dollars. Well, congratulations, Chris, and 641 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: I guess that means I'll have to play the good 642 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: Fortune tone again. At the end of this segment, I 643 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: got this email from Matt and Massachusetts and uh, he 644 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: went to my curiosity shop and got the D Materializer 645 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: a k a. The Bad Buster, which you know those 646 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: things they sell out so they Anyway, he says, Josh, 647 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: I love all your podcast on I Heart Radio and 648 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: listened to the one about your D Materializer that I bought. 649 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: And You're not gonna believe this. For years, I've had 650 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: a stiff neck and it was mostly on my left side, 651 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: and I've tried everything heat and cold packs, massaging, medication 652 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: over the counter, and prescription but nothing worked. I used 653 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 1: your bad Buster and within two days my stiff neck 654 00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: was not stiff anymore. Three exclamation points. Now, I wonder 655 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 1: how I can use this to win one million dollars 656 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: from the lottery. Any thoughts please let me know. Well, Hey, 657 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm delighted by this, and you know, I never make 658 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: any type of medical or health claims with anything that 659 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: I sell, but I'm just thrilled when I get a 660 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: message like that, and when it comes to you know, 661 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 1: using the bad buster to gain funds. Well, the bad 662 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: buster is designed to neutralize things that you don't want, 663 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: so you what you want to do is neutralized lack 664 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: in your life. And so for example, you might write 665 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: financial stress on a piece of paper and slip that 666 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: into the tube to neutralize financial stress, and and see 667 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: what happens. It doesn't have to be the lottery necessarily. 668 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: You never know how these things might manifest. This is 669 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: a really cool one I got from Jordan's and um, 670 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: this is about episode eighteen, which was about ha pono 671 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: pono and synchronicity. And by the way, a guy who 672 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: listens says, you're not saying it right, Josh, it's supposed 673 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: to be Ho a poto poo. You gotta stress now, 674 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: Ho ho a pono pono. So there you go, ho 675 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: a poto pono and synchronicity. Do you remember an episode 676 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: eight teen I talked about my sort of butterfly synchronicity experiment. Well, 677 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: Jordan wrote, I live right across the mountain from your 678 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: old Asheville stomping grounds. I live in Johnson City, Tennessee. 679 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: I work in Charleston, South Carolina, so I have a 680 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: four hour commute twice a week and stumbled upon your 681 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: podcast quiet by accident and says it was okay. So 682 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: Anyway goes on to say, I was immediately hooked. I 683 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: indulge in every experiment and I'm fascinated by every episode. 684 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 1: I've implemented several of your ideas into my life and 685 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: wanted to share a couple of experiences. I was driving 686 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: through the mountains of Asheville on my way to work 687 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: last Sunday and was intrigued by your butterfly experiment. I 688 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: decided to try it myself, and I arrived at my destination, 689 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 1: settled in for bed, and decided to unwind by playing 690 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 1: Pokemon Go on my phone. Any guests as to which 691 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: Pokemon appeared. As soon as I launched the app, there 692 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: was a picture, a little screenshot. It was a butterfly 693 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: Pokemon called butter Free. Jordan goes on to say, how's 694 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: that for synchronicity, and of course his main attack is 695 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: called psychic Also, I've been aware of the law of 696 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: attraction for some time, but have gotten away from consciously 697 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: applying it. And after your your show, I was motivated 698 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: to attract some serious wealth into my life. I told 699 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: the universe my intentions goes on to say, um, I 700 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 1: bought a well, let me just put it this way. 701 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: I got an email sometime offering some time back, offering 702 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: me a chance in start up virtual basketball card business. 703 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: I like the idea so much. I bought a pack 704 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: of cards for eighteen dollars and forgot all about them. 705 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: The day after listening to the tones, I received an 706 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: email saying my cards had been sold in the marketplace 707 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: for one thousand, five hundred and eighty seven dollars. That 708 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: is a profit of one thousand, five hundred and seventy dollars. 709 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: And then Jordan's just goes on and on. I mean, 710 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: like I could telling me more about these amazing abundant 711 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, like this amazing abundance that's been flying in 712 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: ends by saying I can't make this stuff up. Thank 713 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: you for your show. My next venture is to use 714 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: ho poo poo to heal a seemingly impossible personal relationship. 715 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: Oh and to move objects with my mind and maybe 716 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: do some ghost hunting in one of the several Charleston 717 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: cemeteries close by. I'll keep you posted. Thanks in I 718 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: wish I maybe one of these days I'll just read 719 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: nothing but emails for for a whole show, but thank 720 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 1: you Jordan's I mean, you wouldn't believe this is what 721 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: keeps me going getting great reports, great feedback like that. 722 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: But I did get one. I gotta be honest with 723 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,439 Speaker 1: you that that was kind of sad and we might 724 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: be able to help this person out just mentally. Uh, 725 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: this is pretty personal. Um. This also deals with episode eighteen, 726 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna call this person Aurora. And Aurora 727 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: wrote to me and said, once again, as always, I 728 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: look forward to hearing your podcast and this latest one 729 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: about the home Poo Poo chant. While listening, I looked 730 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 1: it up and and the moment I started reading those 731 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 1: four chance, I felt pain and emotion in my chest. 732 00:49:53,040 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: I felt over emotional suffering, sadness, loneliness, anger, hate, and worthlessness. 733 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: I had tears that felt like lava or liquid fire. 734 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: Once again, I enjoy your work and considering I don't 735 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: have much in my life, not much direction, my mind 736 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: is broken, my health is downhill, no friends or family, 737 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: no job or career, hopefully this chant can turn things 738 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: around for me. I definitely appreciate your work. Well, I'll 739 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: tell you what pono Pono is meant to be a cleansing. 740 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: That's the point. It's about cleaning. It's about defragging and 741 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: resetting and rebooting and coming back to that zero point, 742 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: that that zero limit. So it would make sense that 743 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: if a pono pono is doing what it's supposed to do, 744 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: it's going to cause all of that toxic stuff to 745 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: sort of rise to the surface and then drain away. 746 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: But now, and again I have this person's real name, 747 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,959 Speaker 1: but let's let's all of us just take a moment 748 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: and let's project some healing thoughts, some good fortune and um, 749 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, some prayers, some blessings towards this person. Aurora. Uh, 750 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: why not? You know we have we had. This show 751 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: is a powerful thing. We're able to bring all of 752 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: these like minded people together and help each other out. 753 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: So let's just take a moment right now and just 754 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: think of Aurora and that email I just read and 755 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: send a positive thought. Are you ready? Here we go? Three? Two? One? Okay, 756 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: very good, Aurora, keep us posted. I hope things turn 757 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: out better for you. But I know one thing, the 758 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: emails I keep getting about this good fortune tone are undeniable, 759 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: So as always, take some deep breaths and get into 760 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: that meditative state. If you can close your eyes, I 761 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: recommend it. If you have a beverage nearby, get that 762 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: beverage out, put it next to the speaker, charge that 763 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: beverage with this tone, and then you know, drink that 764 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: beverage afterwards. You don't have to just down the whole 765 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 1: thing at once and uh and let's see what happens 766 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: over over the next week for you. Are you ready here? 767 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: It is the good Fortune Tom. That's it for this 768 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,240 Speaker 1: edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua P. 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