1 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 2 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to faith and freedom. I'm Chamaine Nugent, 3 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. The Biden administration handed 4 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: over six billion dollars to our rant in twenty twenty three, 5 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: to the same regime that funds terror proxies and chants 6 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: death to America and women like livestock. And let's not 7 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: forget Obama sent one point seven billion dollars in cash. 8 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but did you vote for that? 9 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, we are back to strength, sanctions, oil shutdowns, 10 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: no blank checks to tyrants. But the bad news is 11 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: the threat. It's it's already here. During the Biden administration, 12 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: the FBI admidst A lost track of hundreds of terrorist 13 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: suspects tied to ISIS and Hesbola. And joining me in 14 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: just a minute is someone who has seen this threat 15 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: up close and lived to warn the rest of US. 16 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: Brigitte Gabrielle survived Islamic terrorism in Lebanon, and she spent 17 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: her life exposing the lies, fighting the threats, and standing 18 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: up for the truth. She's a national security analyst, a 19 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author, and the founder of Act 20 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: for America. Her latest book, Rise, speaks directly to the 21 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: crisis we're living through. Brigitte, mine one second, I want 22 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: to play a video and get your take on it. 23 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Not Ron violated the figment. Do you believe that. 24 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: A run for to see you do? They violated, But 25 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: Israel violated it too. Israel as soon as we made 26 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: the deal, they came out and they dropped a load 27 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before, 28 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: the biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. 29 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: You know, when I say, okay, now you have twelve hours, 30 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: you don't go out in the first hour and just drop. 31 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: Everything you have on them. 32 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with 33 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: Iron either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out 34 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that 35 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: was shot perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not 36 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: happy about that. You know what we have, We basically 37 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: have two countries that have been fighting so long and 38 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. 39 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: Do you understand that? 40 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: My goodness, Brigit Gabriel, welcome back. Now. I have to say, 41 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: if we're filming this on Tuesday, so a lot can 42 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: happen by the time it airs. But welcome back to 43 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: faith and freedom. What's your take on that video? 44 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: Whoa wa, whoa was he upset? 45 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: You know, he wanted to broke o a peace deal 46 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: and he hoped that they will both abide by it. 47 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: But look, the Iranians, I mean they want to continue law, 48 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: you know, launching bombs at Israel, and Israel going to 49 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 4: continue launching bombs at the Iranians, They'll tell the last minute. Now, 50 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: what Israel was trying to do is they are basically bombing. 51 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: The besiege military headquarters. 52 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: This is the police that enforces law and order on 53 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: the civilians. 54 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: What Israel is hoping to do. 55 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: Is basically get the Iranians to rise and revolt against 56 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: the regime that the people of Iran are afraid to 57 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: rise because of the besiege force which is now roaming 58 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: the streets. So that's what Israel was trying to do 59 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: in the last few minutes, you know, on. 60 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: The ceasfire was announced. 61 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: Look, I hope they will finally be able to at 62 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: least come to a ceasefire where both countries right now 63 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: can breathe. We already took the nuclear reactor, the uranium 64 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: enrichment site. 65 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: There is no longer threat. 66 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: Of Israel being annihilated by a nuclear weapon by Iran. 67 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: That has been removed off the table. Now we can 68 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: move forward. 69 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: Within you talks with new strategy on how to deal 70 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: with the Iranians and how Israel can protect itself. 71 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: Do we know if it was actually a rand that 72 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: violated the seas Order or one of their proxies. 73 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: Well, we're not sure yet. 74 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: Sometimes when it takes time with a cease fire, it 75 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: takes time through the chain of command where you can 76 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: control everybody within your country. Now we know that the 77 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 4: missiles that were fired were from Iran, not from an 78 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: outside proxy, So that was communication maybe you know was 79 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: happening between the generals. 80 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: We don't know. 81 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: The next twenty four to forty eight hours we'll tell 82 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: us a lot about where does ceasefire or how long 83 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: do these fire is going to hold or whether it's 84 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: going to hold. 85 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: At this point, it's still holding. 86 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the question. I'm going to get a little 87 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: deep here. Here's the question that no one on the 88 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: left wants to answer. The squad Pelosi and every Democrat 89 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: who voted for Obama and Biden. Are they okay with 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: nine year old girls being married to fifty year old 91 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: men and women who are stoned to death for adultery 92 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: while the man walks free. Women being beaten showing their 93 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: face in public. That's sure real law, And somehow we're 94 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: supposed to embrace this under the banner of diversity. What 95 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? 96 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: What great question, Jamaine, because this topic is linked directly 97 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: and has its roots and a religion, the Islamic religion. 98 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: This is why nobody wants to bring it up, but 99 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 4: nobody wants to talk about it because once you start 100 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 4: talking about it, then you have to talk about. 101 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: How Prophet Mohammed, the man that the Muslims. 102 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 4: Consider the perfect man, married the girl at the age 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: of six years old and consummated the marriage at the 104 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: age of nine. So yeah, this is the subject that 105 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: they are trying to avoid at all costs because remember, 106 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: Islam is a beautiful religion. We're not supposed to say 107 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: anything bad about it. But when you're going to dive 108 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: deep into what you're going to realize that the prophet 109 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: that did a lot of things that every feminist throughout 110 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: the world today will condemn. This is considered pedophilia in 111 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: today's world, marrying a six year old and consummating the 112 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: marriage at the age of nine. 113 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: So this is why they. 114 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: Are not touching that subject, because they do not want 115 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: to touch a sign a light on the faith itself, 116 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: a non prophet, Muhammad himself. 117 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: So just to be clear, we are funding around still, 118 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: we're ignoring sleeper cells here and we're defending sharia law. 119 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: I make it make sense. 120 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: Well, we are defending shariala. We're not no longer funding Iran. 121 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: Thank god, We've got President Trump in office. 122 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: And President Trump said. 123 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 4: You're not going to cross the line. You know, I'm 124 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: not Obama, I'm not Biden. I gave you sixty days. 125 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: When you cross the line, and I know that you 126 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: cross the line, I'm going to react and you're going 127 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: to pay the consequences for your decision or lack of decision. 128 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: And they're run in regime because they did not come 129 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: to the negotiating table. So thankfully, we are no longer 130 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: funding Iran. They are no longer walking all over us. 131 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: But the left in this country hates President Trump so much. 132 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: You know, when we talk about the Trump arrangement syndrome, 133 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: it is so real on the left. They are willing 134 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: to destroy the country. They are willing to throw our rights, 135 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: They are willing to throw freedom and the garbage. If 136 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: that man bringing down and attacking President Trump, to either 137 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: impeach him, make him lose power, push him out of 138 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: the way, turn people against him, encourage people to assassinate them. 139 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: Whatever it takes. 140 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: They are willing to look the other side as long 141 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: as whatever they're overlooking will help motivate their base to 142 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: attack President Trump and discredit him in every way they can. 143 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: All we've talked about sleeper cells here. We know that 144 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Biden left the borders open. Let's just say intentionally millions 145 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: of fighting ah men. Here, what scares you the most 146 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: right now, Rejit. 147 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: What scares me the most is all these illegals that 148 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: came into this country, the criminals that we do not 149 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: know anything about. 150 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: Me Chamaine. 151 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: When they used to cross the border, the border agents 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: would ask them what's your name, and let's say, they 153 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 4: would say my name is Roberto Gonzalez. They would literally 154 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: write it on a yellow sticky note, stick it on 155 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: their arm with tape, and that became their ID. I mean, 156 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 4: it is mind boggling, but they are here right now, 157 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: and from Iran alone. According to my friend Tom Homan. 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: Tom says that we have documented what we know of 159 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,359 Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy three Iranians that have came illegally 160 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: through the border in the last four years under Obama. 161 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 4: And that's not to mention other radicals from other Islamic 162 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: nations who are here in the country. Now, what worries 163 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: me is the long wolf attacks. They can be just 164 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: as big as massive attacks. We're not going to see 165 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 4: mess attacks on the level of nine to eleven two 166 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: thousand and one, where you have multiple people coordinating a 167 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: massive attack working as a part of an operation. Well, 168 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 4: you're going to see more, however, is you're going to 169 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: see lone wolf attacks, just like the attack that happened 170 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: in Michigan over the weekend. Michigan where right exactly where 171 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: you're going to see one guy walking in. 172 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: Wanting to become a martyr. 173 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: And my theory is somebody putting a sauside outfit on themselves, 174 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: walking through Times Square on a Saturday night and. 175 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: Blowing themselves up. 176 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: Just imagine how many people they can injure and kill. 177 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: That's what worries me. 178 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: You know, there's so much to think about right now. 179 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of like skiing. You never get it right, 180 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: and there's always you're going downhill and there's wind, and 181 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: there's so much that we've got to be concerned about. 182 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Is this really a distraction or you know, I think 183 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: about the ceasefire. Everybody could say, yes, we agree to 184 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the ceasefire. But could they reneg on that and could 185 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: they just be trying to appease President Trump and make 186 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: it all look good and make him look good? What 187 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? 188 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: Look, you can never trust the Iranians. You can never 189 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 4: trust the Iranian regime. I should differentiate between the Iranian 190 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: people and the Iranian regime, but we're talking about the 191 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: Iranian regime who rules the country right now. You cannot 192 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: trust them because they are willing to lie and to 193 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: deceive in order for them to advance their end goal. 194 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: That's the situation with them. 195 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: But what we should be concerned about here in the 196 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: United States is making sure we are engaged, we are active, 197 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: we are involved. What worries me right now, Shimane is 198 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: a lot of people say, oh, we elected President Trump, 199 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: We're not worried. 200 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: He's going to take care of everything. 201 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 4: Is going to fix everything and not organizing to make 202 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: sure we win the midterm election next year. And that's 203 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 4: why my organization Acts for America dot org. 204 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: Act for America dot org. 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Joining me now, as 277 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: you can see, is my husband Ted Ninjit Ted welcome. 278 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 6: I love you. You are my fireworks twenty five. God 279 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 6: bless you readers. My wife the greatest real American voice, 280 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 6: faith and freedom that is the foundation of life, liberty 281 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 6: in pursuit of God's will, happiness. I love this woman and. 282 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I love you people. 283 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 6: Tell everybody in your life there is a faith in freedom, 284 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 6: Real America's voice with the Queen of the Forest. 285 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: And you know you started it all. 286 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: I really did. 287 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: I saw what you were going through when you and 288 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: I first met in. 289 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 6: Nineteen eighteen eighty eight. 290 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: October third, nineteen eighty eight. I saw how you were 291 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: defending yourself against radio disc jockeys that were trying to 292 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: get you on being a firearms enthusiast, a seconder, your 293 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: arms enthusiast that's going to be it's supporter, and a hunter. 294 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: And people were saying, no, Ed, don't talk about hunting, 295 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: just talk about the album. So you started. I've seen 296 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: what you've gone through, and thank you because you you 297 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: instigated my faith and Freedom show. 298 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 6: And by the way, the number one moral, spiritual, and 299 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 6: intellectual patriotic obligation of all Americans write this down as 300 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 6: we celebrate Independence Day is to communicate with your elected 301 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 6: employees and demand constitutional accountability. You've seen after all these 302 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 6: years of me fighting for the most fundamental of God 303 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 6: given individual freedoms is guaranteed in our constitution, the right 304 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 6: of freedom of speech and freedom of religion, the protests 305 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: the government, and to have a free press. Boy, wouldn't 306 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: that be nice? And the Second Amendment to defend our 307 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 6: lives and especially to stop the kings and the tyrants 308 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 6: from enslaving us again like prior to the Founding Fathers. 309 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 6: So tell everybody you know to be engaged and to vote. 310 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 6: And the best way I got to tell you, we 311 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 6: discovered a system. Hunter nation dot org. Hunter Nation dot 312 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 6: org is not just about hunting, but it's about private 313 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 6: property rights, tax accountability, less government, more accountability. So Chamane 314 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: has promoted that we don't defend it. It's so perfect 315 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 6: you don't need to defend it. But we promote it 316 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 6: and celebrate it every day of our life. 317 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: And you know, now more than ever, I think there 318 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: are going to be more people who want to understand 319 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: more about hunting and where can they find out more 320 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: about that? We have a show called tech Nag and 321 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: Spirit of the Wild on Pursuit Channel that we've been 322 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: doing for thirty five thirty six years. Wow. And I 323 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: know a lot of people. If you don't know how 324 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: to shoot a bow and arrow, if you don't know 325 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: how to get your own meet become a hunter and gatherer, 326 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: you better start learning because if the grid goes down, 327 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: just saying, if something happens, the grid goes down, you're 328 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna want to figure it all out. So what would 329 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: you recommend? 330 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 6: Well, again, you should have a mentor. I was raised 331 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 6: a hunting family, Thank God for my dad, my uncle John, 332 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 6: my uncle Dig, my cousins, my family that we always 333 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 6: celebrated hands on, down to earth, grounded self sufficiency. But 334 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 6: even as I mentioned about holding our electric officials elected 335 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 6: employees accountable. The same thing hunter Nation dot org. Go 336 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 6: to hunternation dot org. Even though we're about getting conservatives 337 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 6: to vote for conservative constitutional representation. You will meet the 338 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 6: greatest people in the world at hunternation dot org. They're 339 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 6: already hunters, trappers, and fishermen. You can go to the 340 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 6: National Trappers Association dot com National Trappers Association dot com. Hunting, fishing, 341 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 6: and trapping is about self sufficiency, having resource stewardship responsibilities 342 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 6: to balance the herds, balance the flocks, and utilize those 343 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 6: sacred renewable resources to feed the only healthy, nutritious protein 344 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 6: available on planet Earth. Now there are some good switch 345 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 6: to America with Chemaine dot com good beef. 346 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: But we're not always successful. 347 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 348 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things that I wanted to talk 349 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: to you before we get going, and you're going to 350 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: stick around for another cycle, We've got something exciting to 351 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: tell you about. But Ted, you're under fire once again 352 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: and you're going to battle with the State of Michigan. 353 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: Talk about that. 354 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 6: Well, again, the bureaucrats are so dishonest, they're so corrupt, 355 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 6: especially in the state of Michigan, which used to be 356 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 6: the greatest state in the nation, and the people still are. 357 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 6: But under Gretchen Whitmer and our Department of Natural Resources, 358 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 6: they will they will give you a piece of paper 359 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 6: to harvest the dangerously overpopulation of sandhill cranes known as 360 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 6: a ribi in the sky. But get this, the Michigan 361 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 6: government will tell you can kill the sandhill crane to 362 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 6: protect the crops, cause and tens of millions of dollars 363 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 6: in damage, but you are forbidden to consume a ribin 364 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 6: in the sky. So I fight every day. They sued 365 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 6: us for having feral Russian boar faral is domestic livestock 366 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 6: that escape. They have an escape sunrise acres. We have 367 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 6: hunts every weekend throughout the year. If you want to 368 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 6: go to tednugient dot com, we'll show you how to 369 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 6: get some angry perfect pork. But the government is so 370 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 6: out of control. When this airs, I will already have 371 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: confronted and challenged the dishonesty, the anti nature, anti hunting, 372 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 6: anti anti American, anti private price of the Department of 373 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 6: Natural Resources in Michigan and the Natural Resource Commission. So 374 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 6: I'm on this every day, and you have to be 375 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 6: suspicious of all authority, But you need to fight back. Sunriseacres. 376 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 6: Tednugent dot com can teach you how to do this, 377 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 6: but you have to fight back against these bureaucrats that 378 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 6: are putting wildlife in the liability column instead of the 379 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 6: asset column. 380 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: See. I think they don't want us to procure our 381 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: an sustance to put protein on a table. One of 382 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: the things that you have said that is so funny, 383 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: I think is that the Michigan DNAR should have just 384 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: sued you for having pterodactyls. 385 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 6: I have as many pterodactyles as I have farer Russian boar. 386 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 6: By the way, there's no such species as a Russian boar. 387 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 6: It can only be a male pig that lives in Russia. 388 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 6: These bureaucrats are out of their mind. 389 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: What do you think it is? Ted? Do you think that? 390 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say that it seems like they're 391 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: against hunting. Why wouldn't they want to have these family 392 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: recreation hours available for everybody in Michigan, the Winter Water Wonderland. 393 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 6: There's the number one hunting state in the nation. When 394 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 6: I was growing up, the DNR, the Michigan DNAR, and 395 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 6: the Natural Resource Commission, the MISI United Conservation clubs. They 396 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 6: don't stand up to the hunting families. They have literally 397 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 6: cut the deer hunting numbers in half from when I 398 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 6: was growing up. 399 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? 400 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 5: So? 401 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 6: I don't care? Why there's just bad people? Why would 402 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 6: our government escape Benghazi causing thirteen heroes to be killed 403 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 6: when they knew damn well they didn't need to and 404 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 6: that that was going to happen. Why would they never ask? Why? 405 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: Why would they leave our borders open so that we 406 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: could have millions of fighting age men sleeper cells here 407 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: right now. But we're going to get into that a 408 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: little bit later. But you have been under the gun, 409 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: so to speak, from the Michigan dn R and also 410 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: Texas Parks and Wildlife. It's like it just seems like 411 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: they want to do away with hunting. They want to 412 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: do away with gun ownership. 413 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: You know, that's the only logical conclusion you can come to. 414 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 6: Because they want us dependent. They don't like independent, rugged individuals, 415 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 6: and so the bureaucrats have weaseled their way in from 416 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 6: these propaganda ministries of higher education because everybody there is high. 417 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 6: They're against nature, against God's creation, which is what hunting 418 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 6: fishing and trapping is it's the reverential, re source, stewardship 419 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 6: love affair that we have with God's miraculous creation, and 420 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 6: they don't like that. 421 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: It's so heartbreaking. I've seen one of those shows that 422 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: you watch, an outdoor show where that the I don't 423 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: even know it is the game wardens. They're coming life 424 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: an old man who's just fishing and he didn't have 425 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: a fishing license, or he got one too many, or his. 426 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 6: Fish was in a quarter inch too short. Come on, 427 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: let me took it away and gave him ticket. So 428 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 6: all I can tell you law enforcement people out there, 429 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 6: we love you unless you would arrest rosa parks. Well 430 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 6: that's the law. Think man, sink, what are you doing. 431 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 6: You're gonna give an old man a ticket on opening 432 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: day of deer season when he has the right license, 433 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 6: the right weapons, the right area, but he has a 434 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 6: salt block on his private farm, and you're going to 435 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 6: destroy this man's opening day of deer season. Shame on you, bureaucrats. 436 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 6: Texas Parks of Wildlife, Michigan DNR, Illinois DNR, Wisconsin DNAR, 437 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 6: the Missouri Department of Conservation, Colorado Department of You people 438 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 6: are out of control, You're dishonest, You're you're forcing arbitrary, 439 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: anti science, punitive and capricious laws and regulations on good 440 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 6: conservation families. And I'm going to fix you people because 441 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 6: Hunternation dot org. Hunter Nation dot org is going to 442 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 6: make sure that we have conservative constitutional conservation representation. 443 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: You sound a lot like President Trump when talking about Iran. 444 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 6: And they don't know what up. Ted. 445 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: You're going to stick around because we have something really 446 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: exciting to talk about every day. And also we're bringing 447 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: in a guest, your drummer Jason Hartless, So we've got 448 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: thirty seconds left. 449 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 6: Jason Heartless, you can come in and talk about the 450 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 6: news Vault. The history of my unbelievable rhythm and blues, 451 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 6: soul music, rock and roll career is absolutely fascinated right 452 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 6: here on Chamaine Nusian's Real America Voice, Faith and Freedom. 453 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me here. We've got 454 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: a lot more to come if you haven't already visited 455 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: our websites. Ted Nugent dot com and Chamaine Nugent dot rox, 456 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: r O c ks some We're all over social media 457 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: and we'd love it if you joined it, joined us there, 458 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: and also shared this show. Don't go away, We're going 459 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: to be right back. 460 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 5: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 461 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 5: the outside, is to change the world. 462 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this, relish. 463 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 5: The opportunity to be an outside because it's the outside, 464 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 5: is to change the world. 465 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this, 466 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: he ed. You know, we are lucky because we live 467 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: off the land. Listen, and we hunt. We are bow hunters. 468 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: But not everybody can. And I don't know how you 469 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: feel about this, but we don't like to buy meat 470 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: from the store. We don't want to encourage anybody to 471 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: buy meat from the store. 472 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 7: It's unsafe. 473 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: It's unsafe, it's got antibiotics, chemicals, RNA in it. But 474 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: we did find this beef that is freaking amazing. 475 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 7: I'm not a big fan of beef, but I become 476 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 7: a big fan of beef. 477 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 6: It's the best we've ever had. 478 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: It is And if you called switch to them, go 479 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: for the beef with never Ever label. But if you 480 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: really want to go, I'm looking at cocoa in the back. 481 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: If you really want to try it, check out Switch 482 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: to America with Chamaine. 483 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 7: Switch to America with Shamaine. I switched to America with 484 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 7: Jermaine dot com. Switch to America with jumaine dot com. 485 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 7: The best beef, the most delicious, the healthiest beef in 486 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 7: the world. 487 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: We love it and we know you will too. You know, 488 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Fourth of July is right around the corner, Ted, and 489 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: you can get the Backyard Barbecue Bundle and switch to 490 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: America wishamaine dot com and support American made products. Ted, 491 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to let you introduce our next guest. 492 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 6: I think so because I've been surrounded by the greatest 493 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 6: soul music, dedicated virtuoso's work, Ethic Masters, Detroit Muscle, all 494 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 6: my bandmates. When we get ready to play a song 495 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 6: or jam or go on stage, we are auditioning for 496 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 6: James Brown because we have to be the best that 497 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 6: we can be. And I've got the greatest drum in 498 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: the world. Jason Hartless, son of Johnny bananjic the spirit 499 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 6: man in Detroit. Jason Hertless, welcome back and thank you 500 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 6: not only for propelling my sacred music. I love my music. 501 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: Jason. 502 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 6: You've worked with a lot of musicians, a lot of bands. 503 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 6: Have you ever met anybody that loves their music. As 504 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 6: much as I love my music, I. 505 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 8: Don't think I've ever met a human being that gets 506 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 8: goosebumps talking about their music. 507 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 6: Well, number one, thank you for putting your heart and 508 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 6: soul into every lick, every gig, every jam, every concert, 509 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 6: every night. We're going to walk Shawl, Wisconsin on July eighteenth, 510 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 6: Johnny Big and Jason and I are going to unleash 511 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 6: the greatest soul music songs in the history of Mote 512 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 6: down and we have this Nudge Vault. Yes, we'll go 513 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 6: to a bunch of gigs in Michigan. 514 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: I want to hear about that. Tell us about the 515 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: new new vault. This was your your baby, your brain child, 516 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: So talk about that. 517 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, he discovered all these cases in the barn and 518 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 6: he goes, this is fascinating stuff. Let's create a nuge vault. Jason, 519 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 6: what was the impetus and what has been going on 520 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 6: that you've created this nuge vault dot com. 521 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 8: Well, what's crazy is you know, we didn't tour in 522 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 8: twenty and twenty one, so our road cases that are 523 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 8: in the barn in Michigan just kind of, you know, 524 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 8: got stacked up with all this other stuff. And before 525 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 8: our first show, in twenty two, I went to the 526 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 8: barn to get my gear and I noticed all these 527 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 8: boxes of tapes and just you know, I started looking 528 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 8: at him as like, Ted, we got to we got 529 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 8: to do something with these. And what turned into one 530 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 8: box turned into two boxes, turned into five boxes, turned 531 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 8: into twenty boxes, turned into a hundred boxes of just 532 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 8: thousands of hours of release material, video, audio, you know, 533 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 8: just absolutely incredible, and so over the last couple of years, 534 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 8: you know, we've been developing this Nuge Vault Ultimate fan 535 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 8: Club experience, which is kind of something that's never really 536 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 8: been done before by any artist, you know, having just 537 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 8: such a treasure trove of unreleased material, you know, we've 538 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 8: been able to create this just amazing fan club that 539 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 8: every single month, you know, two times a month, these 540 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 8: these fans are getting brand new stuff that they've never 541 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 8: seen or never heard before. And you know, obviously Ted 542 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 8: being as gun ho as he is with being you know, 543 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 8: very approachable with his fans, this is just the perfect 544 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 8: kind of you know, giving back to the fans that 545 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 8: have been so amazing for that past you know what, 546 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 8: almost sixty five years, sixty years. 547 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: Wow. So Jason walk us through the experience, if somebody 548 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: goes to nuge vault dot com, what do they get. 549 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 8: Well, you know, we've got multiple packages. You know, we 550 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 8: have the free for all package, which is free everybody 551 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 8: can get you know a little bit of something, and 552 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 8: then we start with our monthly tier, which is Stranglehold, 553 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 8: and they get to stream all the digital content and 554 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 8: see all this you know, cool memorabilia that we've scanned 555 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 8: and uploaded into you know, cool archive. And then the 556 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 8: top tier package, which is our Ultimate Gonzo, which you know, 557 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 8: is kind of like the perfect mix of old school 558 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 8: fan club with modern because they're getting all the digital 559 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 8: streaming capabilities, but a couple of times a year they're 560 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 8: getting actual autographed memorabilia sent to their house and they 561 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 8: get a you know, a metal membership card with their 562 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 8: name signed and everything. So it's it's really a perfect 563 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 8: of modern old school and everything in between. 564 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 6: You know, Jason, you've discovered all these old jam session 565 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 6: videos and tape recordings as I was developing the songs 566 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 6: from my first solo album that are celebrating fifty years 567 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 6: of Stranglehold with my incredible bandmates. But we've also discovered 568 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 6: some damn Yankee stuff and some amboy Duke stuff and 569 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 6: some unknown jam sessions and rehearsals and interviews. This really 570 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 6: is an expand of my career's history, not just the 571 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 6: recordings and the demos and the outtakes and songs that 572 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 6: didn't end up on the records, but interviews and photo sets. 573 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: And home videos and home videos. I saw somebody like Jason, 574 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: you got to run those by me first, but I 575 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: never got back with you, so I'm not really sure 576 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: what's out there, but it's it's from our archives box, 577 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: like Jason said, probably some of when Rocco was a baby, 578 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: and also our hunts, some of the hunts as well 579 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: around Africa. 580 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 6: I ran into a guy that has a tape of 581 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 6: the day that I did my radio show in Detroit 582 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 6: and I met Shamayne, and they said the demeanor switch 583 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 6: when Shamaine walked in the room during your interview. The 584 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 6: guy said, I knew you were going to marry her, 585 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 6: so we're going to get that tape. 586 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have that, Jason, but I 587 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: haven't found it yet. 588 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 8: Well, and that's the thing is is I've been archiving 589 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 8: this stuff for almost three years now and I still 590 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 8: even haven't even touched even the small bit of the surface. 591 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: What's what was the most astounding thing you found? Like 592 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: shocking or you couldn't believe that we had it, ted 593 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: had it and hasn't released it. 594 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 8: So I actually have it sitting right here. I have 595 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 8: this cassette tape, and this cassette tape is pretty unmarked. 596 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 8: It kind of it says rehearse four thirty and what 597 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 8: looks like a eight and a five. So I was like, Okay, 598 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 8: well this must be nineteen eighty five rehearsal or whatever. 599 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: I put it on. 600 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 8: No, it was the demos for the first ten Eusent record, 601 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 8: with the Stranglehold demo, with MotorCity, Mad House, with all 602 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 8: this stuff, and I just was floored. I was like, 603 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 8: oh my gosh, we actually have it, you know. So 604 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 8: that's that was the craziest thing that I've found so far. 605 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 8: But I mean, there's just been so so much amazing 606 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 8: stuff that we haven't even you know, mastered yet refurbished yet, 607 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 8: you know. 608 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: So there's just. 609 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 8: Tons and tons and tons and tons left to go, and. 610 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 6: A lot of these rehearsals and demos and outtakes and 611 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 6: songs that didn't end up on records. Boy has my 612 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 6: band made like what you and Johnny, You and Greg 613 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 6: got all my guys I've ever done, including my damn 614 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 6: Yankee brothers, Tommy and Jack and Michael. There is a 615 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 6: soulfulness to these rehearsals, just private we're getting in, just 616 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 6: kind of screaming and bok around and the tightness it 617 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 6: literally would qualify as an audition for James Brown. We 618 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 6: aspired to and accomplish that cohesive musicality. 619 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: I think that's. 620 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 6: What's really been consistent throughout my career, going back to 621 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 6: tapes that are over sixty five years old. 622 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 8: Oh what's hilarious is we just uploaded a soundcheck rehearsal 623 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 8: from two thousand and five with Tommy Aldridge and Barry 624 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 8: Sparks and it's just full, unfiltered you know kind of soundcheck, 625 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 8: and I'm listening to it. I'm like, man, this is 626 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 8: this sounds like last week? You know, it's the same 627 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 8: exact stuff you've always kind of strived to achieve. And 628 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 8: you've always had this goal of what you wanted your 629 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 8: band it sound like, and really make sure it projects 630 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 8: everything you could on these gigs. 631 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: And they'll get videos. Also, because I followed Ted, I 632 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: had a small video production company when we first met 633 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: and I started filming his hunts and filming the shows, 634 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: and why not do you have that that stuff too? 635 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, we've I've transferred a couple of things, you know, 636 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 8: just like video cameras of you know, late eighties, you know, 637 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 8: side stage and from the soundboard, and you know a 638 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 8: bunch of other stuff that we haven't even gotten you know, 639 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 8: to the to the point of uploading yet. But we've 640 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 8: got again so much like I found your guys' wedding 641 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 8: video and you know, yeah, you know, tons and tons 642 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 8: of stuff. 643 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 6: Well, you know, as much as I thank you for 644 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 6: doing that, I'd like to take this opportunity on Chremaine's 645 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 6: Queen and the Forest, Real America Voice, Faith and Freedom, 646 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 6: Faith and freedom, yeah, faith and freedom. Yeah. But you 647 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 6: are the Queen of the force. You are the little 648 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 6: miss dangerous, whether you're faith and feedom or not. Thank 649 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 6: you music lovers everywhere our audiences, Jason will tell you this, 650 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 6: they're so intense, they pay so close attention with that 651 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 6: taught us. It taught you, Jason, and it taught me 652 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 6: going back to the nineteen sixties. I talked to Tom 653 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 6: Nowel this morning, my drummer from nineteen sixty in the Lords. 654 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 6: I talked to him this morning. He butt dialed me, 655 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 6: but we still had a nice conversation. The point is 656 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 6: is that we have always put our heart and soul 657 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 6: into the music. Because when you look in the audience's faces, 658 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 6: especially in these gigs. In twenty twenty five I did 659 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 6: with John and Jason and Johnny and Calvin and Chris 660 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 6: in Texas and now the last week of August in Michigan, 661 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 6: the intensity, the happiness. 662 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 9: The. 663 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 6: Appreciation of how we work to make the music adventurous, 664 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 6: dynamic and soulful. So on behalf of all the bands 665 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 6: out there in the world. Thank you, real music lovers, 666 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 6: because Mark Farner's out there jamming, and Jim McCarty from 667 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 6: Mitch Ryder's still out there jamming, and Styx and Kevin 668 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 6: Cronin and now Triumph from Canada's doing some new gigs. 669 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 6: So we love you people who have inspired us to 670 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 6: play music with all the heart and soul that we 671 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 6: can possibly create. Eight and we really owe it to 672 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 6: the fans. Don't you feel that, Jason Ebinet when we 673 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 6: get off stage, when you look in those people's eyes 674 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 6: all night. 675 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean, and that's what this whole nudge fault 676 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 8: things kind of about is giving the fans, you know, 677 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 8: what they've always wanted, you know, because over your career, 678 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 8: a lot of this stuff has never leaked, you know, YouTube, 679 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 8: nothing's really leaked, rare recordings, we've had it all. So 680 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 8: now that we're able to give this to the fans, 681 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 8: everybody's like, oh my gosh, this is what I've been 682 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 8: waiting for for, you know, twenty thirty forty years. 683 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 6: And nuge vault dot com it's Jason's baby, and I'm 684 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 6: working with him. I'm doing some updated interviews to give 685 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 6: comments on tapes that he discovers. And I think when 686 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 6: you interview me and film me responding to a tape 687 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 6: that you found from nineteen sixty seven, the honesty, the 688 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 6: genuine love of the music and appreciation to relive it 689 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 6: over again with Dave Palmer and Gregor Raymond, Andy Solomon. 690 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 6: So thank you Jason, nuge vault dot Com. It's really special. 691 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: Thank you Jason, Thank you Ted. Don't go everywhere. We've 692 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: got lots more faith and freedom to come. We'll be 693 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 1: right back. 694 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 5: Weller's the opportunity to be an outside because it's the 695 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 5: outsiders to change the world. 696 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 697 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 5: Weller's the opportunity to be an outside because it's the 698 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 5: outsiders to change the world. 699 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 700 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Only in California could you fail law school, bomb the 701 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: bar exam and still be handed a law license. That's right, 702 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: the state just changed the rules to let low grade 703 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: graduates slide into the legal system. One guy who's not 704 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: afraid to call this madness out is Sam Mrjowski, a 705 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: legal expert and host of What's Right Show. 706 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 9: Sam, Welcome, Well, thank you so much. I'm so happy 707 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 9: to be here with you, Schmain. 708 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: It's good to have you. So, California's February twenty twenty 709 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: five bar exam was one of the first to let 710 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: students tests from home, all online. Who thought that that 711 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: was a good idea? Sam? And what kind of problems 712 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: did it cause? 713 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 9: Well, so, first of all, I'm a practicing lawyer in California. 714 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 9: I'm blown away by this because when I took the bar, 715 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 9: you know, it was three days of hell and it 716 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 9: was the toughest bar exam in the country. And the 717 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 9: problem is is, I guess not enough people were passing 718 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 9: the test, and it was determined that this was not 719 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 9: compassionate and it was racist. And so they've gone through 720 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 9: now over the past several years and taken steps to 721 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 9: really dumb this thing down, and it culminated in that 722 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 9: disastrous exam, which you know, was an attempt at making 723 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 9: the test easier, but it was a botched exam. 724 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 2: And so the fix to it. 725 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 9: Was to just let more people pay asset, which is 726 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 9: I mean, it's almost it made it a They made 727 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 9: it easier, and then they made it even less. Uh, 728 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 9: you know, they made it even they even admitted more 729 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 9: people beyond that. So I you know, I always say 730 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 9: this is this is crazy. If you want your lawyer 731 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 9: to know something, if you want your lawyer in California 732 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 9: to actually know the law and to protect you, this 733 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 9: is not the way to go about it. 734 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: And apparently when the tech glitches hit, the state bar 735 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: just lowered the passing score as well. How is that 736 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: fair to everyone who sweated like you did through months 737 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: and years of studying the right way. How is that fair? 738 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 9: Well, it's not fair to them, but the real losers 739 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 9: in this. If I if I can say this is 740 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 9: the public right, I mean, there's an expectation that when 741 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 9: you you hire an attorney and they're licensed by the 742 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 9: California State Bar, that that means that they've met some 743 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 9: minimum level of competency and you would assume them and 744 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 9: it's it's a reasonable assumption that that minimum level of 745 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 9: competency is enough to protect you. And I I think 746 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 9: that the real tragedy of the story actually hasn't been 747 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 9: been written yet or talked about yet. It's in the 748 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 9: coming years, we will see more lawyers do unethical things. 749 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 9: We'll see more lawyers, you know, basically commit malpractice, put 750 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 9: their clients in a terrible position. Perhaps people who are 751 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 9: innocent will go to jail and have you know that 752 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 9: all sorts of terrible uh, you know things will occur 753 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 9: because the state of California went woke in this way 754 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 9: in many ways. So I think that's the that's the 755 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 9: thing that people need to be aware of. The public 756 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 9: suffers the most. 757 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: Do you think this had anything to do with DEI. 758 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 9: Like, well, I think I think you and I probably 759 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 9: agree on this that it had almost everything to do 760 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 9: with that. And you know, for your look, you know, 761 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 9: for your viewers and are watching this, you know, think 762 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 9: about I mean, this is the This is the state 763 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 9: bar that went after my friend John Eastman mercilessly just 764 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 9: for representing Trump. This is a state bar that in 765 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 9: everything that it does, takes the you know, takes political considerations. 766 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 9: They absolutely you know, this was driven by you know, 767 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 9: diversity initiatives. They felt that they weren't getting enough a 768 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 9: high enough minority pass rate, and so the the original 769 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 9: tweaking of all of this was was purely driven by 770 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 9: by by race based factors, which have since been struck 771 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 9: down by the Supreme Court, so that the whole thing 772 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 9: is an absolute mess. But but but yes, you're you're 773 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 9: absolutely right. 774 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: So are there any other states that are considering doing 775 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: the same thing or is it just California? 776 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, this epidemic is spreading. New York has 777 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 9: has done similar things. Uh, you know, they're the state 778 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 9: of Washington and Oregon have done similar things. 779 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 6: You know. 780 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 9: It's it's and I really think, you know, and this 781 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 9: is kind of a broader conversation about where this all goes. 782 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 9: We're really becoming two countries. You know, you have blue 783 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 9: states where you you know, you lower the standards. You 784 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 9: you don't enforce the laws, you don't enforce immigration rules. 785 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 9: It's all you have taxes that are ruinous, and then 786 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 9: you have red states that are governed well and have 787 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 9: procedures in place to ensure that people are qualified in 788 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 9: their various positions. You're creating two Americas and and eventually, 789 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 9: I mean it's you know, I believe very strongly that 790 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 9: you know, places like Florida, places like Texas, even Nevada 791 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 9: where I've you know, I've moved to, are going to 792 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 9: be states that that are going that are that will 793 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 9: eclipse in their in their financial performance, the blue states 794 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 9: that were once a pride and enjoy of this country. 795 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: You know, I was going to ask you when it 796 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: all started, but it just dawned on me. When my 797 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: son was seven years old, he was swimming, and I 798 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: swam competitively full disclosure, when I when I was growing up, 799 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: I was a state champion swimmer two times. So of 800 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: course I'm going to help my son and I'm going 801 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 1: to give him some tips. But when he was seven 802 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: years old, I entered him into a novice swim meet. 803 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: It means you couldn't have swim at any other swim meet. Ever, 804 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: it was just to give them extra time. Well, Rocco 805 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: won and run one big lee, as President Trump would say. 806 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: But when we went to go pick up his trophy, 807 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: there was no question he won. They said, well, can 808 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: you come to this office please, And we said, well, 809 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: what's going on. He clearly won, And they said, well, 810 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: he swam too fast and it wasn't fair to the 811 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: other children. 812 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think this is that's absolutely tragic, and I'm 813 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 9: sorry that happened to you and to him in particular. 814 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 9: You know, a sport is by the way, sport was 815 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 9: the last place that these I must say, demons could 816 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 9: get to. And if you look at what's been going on, 817 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,959 Speaker 9: I mean it's there. There's a full on assault even 818 00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 9: on that. Because meritocracy is the enemy of progressivism and 819 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 9: and so so anybody anybody doing anything, achieving anything on 820 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 9: their own, of their own volition, is you know, is 821 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,959 Speaker 9: a is a is a danger to their system because 822 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 9: remember DEI is not about advancing you know, one race 823 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 9: or another race, or women or whatever. It's about awarding, 824 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 9: you know, awarding benefits of society to the people who 825 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 9: have political fealty to the to the left. So they're 826 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 9: giving out, they're giving out first place, they're giving out 827 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 9: the jobs, they're giving out a college education at Harvard. 828 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 9: These are things that they view as goodies to be 829 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 9: traded in for political favors, and so so merit is 830 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 9: a casualty of that a great peril to society in 831 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 9: my opinion. 832 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: So I was just thinking maybe I should maybe do 833 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: an online program and get my law degree. What do 834 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 1: you think? 835 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 9: Well, now, I knowing you, you could do it with 836 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 9: your eyes closed. I mean, it's basically gotten to that point. No, 837 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 9: I think that the exam is obviously was always designed, 838 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 9: if we're back to the bar exam in California is 839 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 9: always designed to make sure that everybody, no matter what 840 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 9: law school they went to in state out of state, 841 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 9: could at some basic level do the job. And we're 842 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 9: getting away from that, and I think that's a problem. 843 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 9: I really do. 844 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: Well. Sam Murjowski, thank you so much for breaking down 845 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: this legal madness that we see far too often. I 846 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 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