1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we are 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: rolling through the program. 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: A ton of. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Different news stories out there, the big beautiful Bill Trump 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill. We will talk with White House official 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: James Blair at two point thirty that is the third 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: hour eastern of this program to get the absolute latest there. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: James Comey went on MSNBC to talk about his Seashells 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: by the Seashore original sin the book is out. And 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: then a couple of crazy stories that we may have 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: some fun with during the course of the program. Robert Griffin. Third, Buck, 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: you saw this story and you were like this, this 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: can't be real. Is in a feud with a guy 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: named Ryan Clark Caitlin Clark and they have had wife attacks. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Now anyway, this is crazy. Also, I don't know if 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: you saw this. This is not super serious, but is 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: a little bit crazy. Bill Belichick and his twenty four 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: year old girlfriend are reportedly engaged. Buck, So true love 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: as spring flowers bloom may well be a foot in 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: the Great State of North Carolina with Bill Belichick as 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: the head coach of the tar Heels. 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Some ladies like granddad Bob, What can I tell you. 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Seventy two year old Belichick, twenty four year old Jordan Hudson. 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: The heart wants what the heart wants. 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Buck. 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: But we begin, We begin with the big beautiful bill. 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: Trump is up on Capitol Hill. Here is my prediction 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: before we go through all this different audio. The bill's 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: gonna pass. This reminds me a bit of the speaker 33 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: count votes every time. Else eventually there is going to 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: be a speaker and it reminds me of the debt ceiling. 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what's going to happen. The government's gonna 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: shut down? 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: Oh oh no. And then the debt ceiling gets resolved, 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: nothing ever really changes. It's all posturing and negotiation. So 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: that is my prediction of where we are, where we 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: are headed. But let's listen to what Trump said this 41 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: morning on Capitol Hill before the meeting. Uh. He said, 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: this is a big, beautiful bill, and we're gonna get 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: it done because it has tremendous tax cuts. Cut one. 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: Well, it's not a. 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: Question of all us. 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 5: They have a tremendously unified party. 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 6: I don't think we've never had a party like this. 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 6: There are some people that. 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 5: Want a couple of things that maybe I don't like 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 5: or that they're not going to get. But I think 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 5: we're going to have tremendous not in luck. We have 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 5: tremendous talent. This man has done an incredible job of speaking. 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: So I think we're going to I think we're a 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 5: very unified party. The Senate's doing great. John fun is 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 5: doing fantastically. He's a great guy. And we're gonna have 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 5: a bill, the one big, beautiful bill. I think it's 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 5: going to be the biggest bill ever passed, and we 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 5: got to get it done. Tremendous tax cuts for people, 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 5: tremendous incentives, tremendous regulation shuts, so all these regulations that 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: are so horrible. 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So that was before the meeting. Speaker Johnson after 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: the meeting, and then I'll play some Trump. Here's Speaker 63 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: Johnson after the meeting of what happens if they don't 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: pass this bill. 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 6: So they love this president. The people back home love 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 6: what he's doing. 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 7: It's historic and everybody understands the scope and the meaning 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 7: of this. 69 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 6: If we do not accomplish this mission. 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 7: Every one of you, all the American people, are gonna 71 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 7: have the highest tax increase that you've ever had. And 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 7: among the debt sealing clip that's approaching and all the 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 7: other problems, this is the bill to do it. 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 6: I think we're gonna get the dumbest president. 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: Okay, and then Trump after the meeting, one more cut, 76 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: five and then Buck, you can weigh in on all 77 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: the drama on Capitol. 78 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: How big it is, how beautiful it is, so beautiful, 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: I can't stop looking at it. Trump says it was 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: a meeting of love. 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 6: That was a meeting of love. Let me tell you 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 6: that was love in that room. There was no shouting there. 83 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 6: I think it was a meeting of love. There were 84 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 6: a couple of things that we talked. 85 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: About, specifically where some people felt a little. 86 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 6: Bit one way or the other not a big deal. 87 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: And I covered them and wasn't so much a speech. 88 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: I covered certain points, and I think it was I'd 89 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: be very surprised. No, I didn't tell who told you? 90 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: I said I'm losing inside room. 91 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 6: Get some ready question who's told you that? 92 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: From people inside the room? 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 5: Totally. 94 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: I never used the term I didn't stay losing I 95 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: didn't even talk about it. 96 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 6: In fact, it's the opposite. 97 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: I think we're getting. 98 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: Into that I'm not losing patients, We're ahead of schedule. 99 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 6: Anybody that told you that a liar. 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 5: I never mentioned that we're losing patients because I'm. 101 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: Not losing were ahead of such. Why didn't you go 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: back to your source and tell them they are liars? 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: If the source even existed. 104 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: All right, So there is Trump getting into it with 105 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: a reporter. Capitol Hill, buck your take on all this. 106 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Well, one thing, I'll get into the substance of the 107 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: bill in just a second. I just when I hear 108 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: Trump with the reporters, I do think you know you 109 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: and I we know Don Junior and Ivanka. Could you 110 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: imagine Trumps your dad like trying to tell him why 111 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: you broke curfew or something like excuse me, excuse like 112 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: just he's very tough to remember. Remember when we had 113 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: Junior on at the RNC, if I remember correctly, and 114 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: he had gotten permission to have a few people over. 115 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: And Trump got home and there were, like he said, 116 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: one hundred people at the house and he's just like, 117 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: all of them have to be gone. Can you imagine 118 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: being at that party of the high school kid. Trump 119 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: walks in and he's like, you're all gone, Like he's 120 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: not the dad. He's not the dad that you wanted 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: to be rolling kegs in when he wasn't looking. I'm 122 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: just throwing that out there, like I can tell you know, 123 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: I met him when I was thirteen or fourteen for 124 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: the first time, and uh yeah, he was Nobody was 125 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: messing with him then, and nobody's messing with him now. Okay, 126 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill, it's huge, it's beautiful's get into it. 127 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: The biggest thing in this Clay and you know I 128 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: spoke to and you can check it out. It's on 129 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck podcast network. And then Buck Brief. 130 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: I spoke to the head of the National Economic Council 131 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: and I just said, my friend, you are respectfully he's 132 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: a PhD from Harvard in economics, and I said, you 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: are an econ guy. I didn't want to say nerd, 134 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: but I mean I think econ NERD would be respectfully. 135 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Said here, I said, take me through the whole thing, 136 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: and so we just sat there and I went through it. 137 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I'll give you some of the highlights of it, and 138 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: what is in this that really matters to people, and 139 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: why Trump is so excited about it. The first thing 140 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: is it's one of those if you don't do it, 141 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: really bad things are going to happen, meaning the tax 142 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: raises that would kick in, because the twenty seventeen Trump 143 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: tax cuts are made permanent here, so I know it's confusing, 144 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: but if the stuff, if you don't do this, they 145 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: would expire and you would go back to much higher 146 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: tax rates. So that would be a shock to the 147 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: system in a bad way. Right, that's one part of it. 148 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: You're extending tax cuts. You're extending tax cuts really across 149 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: a whole range, whether it's for businesses, for individual filers, 150 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: and the average American family on an annual basis. And 151 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: again this is from the Chairman of the National Economic Council, 152 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: and I said, let's nerd out, buddy. Let's get it's 153 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: something like seven to twelve thousand dollars of additional money 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: in the bank for you at the end of the year, 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: for the average American household. Okay, that's not I think 156 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: that's such an important because of say it's for the rich, 157 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: it's for the billionaires. The Democrats who rely on their 158 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: plurality of billionaires to fund their party. Are always so 159 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: upset about billionaires, right, this has nothing to do with 160 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: the billionaires. This is about the average American household. And 161 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna have think about that. If someone told you, hey, 162 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have an extra ten grand next year at 163 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the end of the year, you'd say, wow, that's great. Well, 164 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: that's what this does for the average household. So I 165 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: think that's really it's also there's the salt deduction component 166 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: of this, so there's the cap for this is going 167 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: to be changed. They're going to deduct more of the 168 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: regional taxes from the federal tax bill. That's actually good 169 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: for blue states. And I think that's probably for some 170 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: blue state Republicans or purple state Republicans something they're happy 171 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: to see. The big one Clay and I said, Wow, 172 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: they're actually doing this no tax on tips. That that 173 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: is a real thing. Remember that was so popular and 174 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: cool when Trump said it on the campaign trail that 175 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: Kamala for whatever campaign she was running, she was like, yeah, 176 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: I think we should have no tax. She just blatantly 177 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: copied it. It was totally lifted it. Yeah, totally lifted it. 178 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: She was plagiarizing Trump. One thing that I'm going to 179 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: say people on the right are annoyed about is the 180 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: green energy tax credits part of this. The bill's initial 181 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: tax eliminates tax credits for electric vehicles within years, phases 182 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: out credits for low carbon electricity, including wind and solar. 183 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 1: New requirements on these credits, but doesn't totally zero. And 184 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: there are people that are I'm just gonna tell you 185 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: what's getting criticized. They're criticizing this for not getting like 186 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: there should be the whole Green New Deal scam. Stuff 187 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: should all be completely root and branch taken out. Some 188 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: Republicans are saying, okay, we had Ron Johnson on yesterday 189 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: talk a bit about this. They tighten up snap benefits, 190 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: which is food stamps. I guess we don't like to 191 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: call it food stamps anymore. They're tightening that up so 192 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: they think there'll be some savings. They're limiting funding for 193 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which had been Elizabeth Warren's 194 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: little fiefdom that didn't actually help consumers but was a 195 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: good way to harass disfavored businesses by Democrats, increases the 196 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: debt limit for trillion dollars, and then some substantial funding 197 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: boost for Pentagon priorities and deportation. So Clay, I think 198 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: those are the big top lines of where where this 199 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: thing is, where this thing stands, And the biggest critic 200 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: is it's over a thousand pages, eleven hundred pages. Just 201 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: remember that when somebody's like, I've read the bill, really 202 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: you have really? Yeah? You know, yeah, they've read the 203 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: section of the bill that their lobbyists one and included. 204 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure, but this is on eleven hundred pages. And 205 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: the part of it that I think people on the right, 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: conservatives are a little frustrated on, is just that it's 207 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: extending the debt's dealing four trillion dollars and doesn't really 208 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: have the big meaty cuts that from dose you would 209 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: have liked to see. That's the part of it. That's 210 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: but if you're talking about if you're talking about juicing 211 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: the economy, I mean, this thing, I think is going 212 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: to be rocket fuel for the economy. So that's why 213 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: Trump's so excited about it. Look, it's it's not a 214 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: perfect bill. And the big issue, which if you're around 215 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: our age, meaning if you're forties or younger, that you're 216 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: going to have to deal with over the next two generations. 217 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: Is the national debts out of control. And the only 218 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: real way. 219 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: We've told you this before, the only real way to 220 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: fix the national debt is to address social security and Medicare. 221 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: And if you look, I believe social Security, Medicare, defense, 222 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: and the interest. I believe that's eighty six percent of 223 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: the entire federal budget. I think that's the number. 224 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: So even if you eliminated every other part of the 225 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: federal government, eighty six percent of it would still exist 226 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: just based on those four things. And unfortunately, as our 227 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: debt grows, the percentage of interest that we have to 228 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: pay on that debt grows massively, such that we now 229 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: pay more typically unfortunately now for the debt than we 230 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: do national defense. And there is an argument that if 231 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: you look at history, as soon as the debt expenditures 232 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: exceed the defense expens your country, your civilization has begun 233 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: a decline. So want first segment on Tuesday. 234 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: No one in the Democrat Party, no one in the 235 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: Republican Party, really wants to address social security and Medicare. 236 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: And until those issues are addressed, then there is virtually 237 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: no opportunity to balance a budget. 238 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: That's the reality. 239 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: Now, I agree with Ron Johnson when he says like, hey, 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 2: we should be going back to pre COVID baseline s expenditures. 241 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: That's way better. That's the better solution here. 242 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: In my mind, because we basically have embedded the cost 243 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: of a growing government from COVID and we're continuing. By 244 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: the way, when you have twenty one percent inflation, your 245 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: expenses are going to go up substantially just to keep 246 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: pace with the cost of goods. But this is the 247 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: reality in which we live. There's also on the good 248 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: side of things. So I can give you the quick 249 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: negative overview, not of the bill, but just of the 250 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: US fiscal trajectory is, uh, we are not stopping this 251 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: train at all, really, and the next I think four 252 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: years on the train are gonna be awesome. 253 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: So there's that, right, I think. I think the Trump administration, 254 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna see everyone's gonna be doing great, and that's fantastic, 255 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: and you know, that's nothing to sneeze at. But the 256 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: other side of it is, we haven't we haven't suffered 257 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: enough as a country from the overspending. When we've suffered enough, 258 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: people will want to do something about it, and we 259 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: This is I almost think it's a waste of time 260 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: to get into beyond that right now, Clay, because every 261 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: time we could say we're spending too much money, look 262 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: at the math, you can just line up. We'll just 263 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: get calls all day from everyone saying you absolutely cannot 264 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: touch my medicare. Okay, that's where we are, and that's 265 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: what Trump is said. You can't trusty if you can't 266 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: touch Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid. Basically, there's nothing to talk about. People. 267 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: So we haven't suffered enough as a country from the 268 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: fiscal profligacy, and that means that we just got to 269 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: keep going and keep on hoping that we grow and 270 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: grow and grow this economy. We got hundreds of billions 271 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: coming in from the tariffs, by the way, which you're hearing, 272 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: you're not getting a lot of conversation about that right 273 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: now in the media because the tariffs are going to 274 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: bring in additional revenue to the government. Remember, we used 275 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: to fund until the twentieth century, we funded this country's 276 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: government on tariffs overwhelmingly. I mean that was that was 277 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: the primary source. So it is a thing. But yeah, 278 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: hopefully we can grow, grow the economy much faster and 279 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: find you know, greater efficiencies that we'll be able to 280 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: kind of keep riding this thing out. But yeah, I'm 281 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: with you, it's not even worth the debt bomb. The 282 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: debt bomb is ticking, nobody wants to fix it, so 283 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: why whine about it. Trump is doing the best thing 284 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: he can do for the economy this year, and hopefully 285 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: that means we lead into better things than the years 286 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: after it. But yeah, that's kind of where I am 287 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: on this. It's also like having the debt ceiling fight. No, 288 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: it's not even fun to talk about it anymore because 289 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: they're just going to raise the debt ceiling. If I'm wrong, 290 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: let me know, trying to stir the pot a little bit. 291 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two two two eight eight two. 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Welcome back into play and Bucks. 333 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: So we're talking a lot about the big beautiful bill. 334 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: It's huge. It's a fantastic bill, and that's good, you know, Clay. 335 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: We got some other things that we will hit. I 336 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: just want to give everyone a little little preview of it. 337 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: You see, James Comy is making the rounds now, yes, 338 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: and that is something that we will have some fun 339 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: with because I think he's second and only to Fauci 340 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: in terms of awful government employees. I think Fauci is 341 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: still number one. I think Komi's number number two for sure. 342 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: And then we have a represent remember the US House 343 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: of Representatives charged with assault. Do you see that one too? 344 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 345 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they dropped the charges against the mayor. I guess 346 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: because on video the congresswoman was more significantly engaged in 347 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: pushing and shoving, and so all of that is a 348 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: is a is a mess for Democrats, and I would 349 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: just point out that what happened to Santos when he 350 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: was forced from office, Democrats will not do it right. 351 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: So she's charged with all these. 352 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: Criminal charges, came down yesterday, and there will not be 353 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: any demand or consequences for her from four purposes of 354 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 2: not being able to to stay in office. 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Welcome 374 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: back in play, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 375 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: you hanging out with us as we are rolling through 376 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: the Tuesday edition of the program, Big Beautiful Bill underway. 377 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: But I did want to hit this buck. Was it Friday? 378 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: Was it Friday when Sherlock Clay was on the case 379 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: about the seashells by the Seashore? I believe it's Friday Show, 380 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: right elementary, my dear Clay elementary. Yes, sir, Well, finally 381 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: James Comey has got and around to sitting down and 382 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: having conversations with his friends at MSNBC, and he just 383 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: doesn't understand what the big deal is. He was just 384 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: on a beach walk with his wife when he happened 385 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: to come across the eighty six forty seven seashells spelled out. 386 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: He doesn't understand why he's in the news at all. 387 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: Cut six, you're back in the middle of a political firestorm. 388 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, for walking on the beach with my wife. So 389 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: I don't know how we ended up here. Never occurred 390 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: to me that it was any kind of controversial thing, 391 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: but that's the time we live in. 392 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, is he a total moron? 393 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean this honestly, if you don't think, 394 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 2: as a former FBI agent that putting forward a eighty 395 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: six forty seven message off a twice recently attempted assassinated 396 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: president is going to get people to take notice when 397 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: you post a photo on your Instagram page. 398 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Why did you do it? I mean, you have to 399 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: be a moron to actually argue this, to say nothing 400 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: of the absurdity of him sticking to the story that 401 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: somebody he has no idea who randomly decided to write 402 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: a message in seashells on the seashore that he happened 403 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: to walk past. I mean, this is next level crazy. 404 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: I think Comy has a particular addiction to the sophistry 405 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: of Komyism. What I mean by that is, remember when 406 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: he wrote down the notes with the Trump meeting, and 407 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: then those notes were like relayed to the newspaper and 408 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: people said they classified, and Comy was all, well, I 409 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: was the originator and they weren't marked classified, and got 410 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: on the like. I think he likes to play these 411 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: little semantic games where he gets to be political but 412 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: act like he's not, because there's no way he didn't 413 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: recognize what at Like, why would you understand what the 414 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: forty seven means without the context of what the eighty 415 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: six means? What what is so fascinating about eighty six 416 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven, James? That's what I would want 417 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: to ask him. What is it about that number? No, 418 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: eighty six forty seven is what he saw. We understand 419 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: what the implication of that was when he shared it. 420 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: But I think he knew at the time I'll be 421 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: able to share this get a bunch of attention, but 422 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: also nobody can prove my men'sraa. Nobody can prove that 423 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't actually or that I do actually know what 424 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: this means. And so I'll get a rise out of 425 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: everybody and then go, oh, you know, did you ever 426 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: have a friend in your circle, Clay, who is the 427 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: guy who would either with you or with another friend, 428 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: make the joke that was actually like a day. Get 429 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: the person and then be like, what do you mean? 430 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Like I just thought we were having fun, Like I 431 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: just that person always deserved to punch in the face 432 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: because they're the most annoying person on the planet, Like 433 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: they know what doing you know? And call me as 434 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: that guy the goal I thought. I thought I was 435 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: just sharing a seashells photo. I think he likes to 436 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: do this, this this he gets some thrill out of 437 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: playing these little word games with everybody. 438 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: And then he continued, He said he thought it was 439 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: a clever way to express a political viewpoint. This is 440 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: cut seven Komy, sixty four year old man on Instagram 441 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: taking pecked pictures of seashells by the seashore, talking about 442 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: it on MSNBC. 443 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: This is cut seven, just. 444 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: Again and again and again. I really thought that I 445 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: was done. I was in another life. I was a 446 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: grandfather and an author, wearing you know, sweaters and jeans, 447 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: and then they went for a walk on the beach 448 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: and posted a silly picture of shells that I thought 449 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: was a clever way to express a political viewpoint. And 450 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 4: actually I still think it is. I don't see it 451 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 4: the way some people are still saying it is. But again, 452 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 4: I don't want any part of any violence. I've never 453 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 4: been associated with violence, and so that's why I took 454 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 4: it down. 455 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I just again, I think your argument of oh, 456 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 2: you know, claiming that he didn't know what he was doing, 457 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: he's just a moron. And I wonder how many of 458 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: these people are in our federal governments in general. The 459 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: fact that this guy rose all the way to the 460 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: top of the FBI is staggering to me because you 461 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: would think in most professions you rise to a higher 462 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: level by having some degree of competence. I feel like 463 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: in our federal government that is just not the case, 464 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: and lots of people rise to positions of prominence simply 465 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: by avoiding getting noticed. And then you just keep kind 466 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 2: of sliding up up the scale of achievement. And I 467 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: just look at him, and I mean, he just seems 468 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: to me to be just a total non entity. And remember, 469 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: this is still a big deal. And I know we've 470 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: got cash Pateel, and I know we got Dan Bongino 471 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: at the FBI, and I trust those guys to be 472 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: doing a really good job. 473 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: But one of the great unsolved mysteries of twenty twenty 474 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: is who ordered the code red on the Hunter Biden laptop. 475 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: In other words, who knew that it was real and 476 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: allowed the shutting down of the New York Post story 477 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: and all these things. We still have no idea. I 478 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: presume those people are there, But to me, I can 479 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: tell you that started the whole Russia collusion mess and 480 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: there were no consequences. You have to remember that in 481 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: all of these places, there is a culture, a daily 482 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: culture in the CIA, in the FBI of having meetings 483 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: where you talk about sensitive things, and there is no 484 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: note taker per se, there is no recording of the 485 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: meeting obviously. In fact, you're not even allowed to bring 486 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: your phone into the room, so it's not even possible 487 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: for someone to make a surreptitious or unless they want 488 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: to commit a crime, surreptitious recording. So it's very easy 489 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: to have conversations and have it trickle down through one 490 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: of these entities for which there will be no record, 491 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: And that's one of the challenges here. I mean, I 492 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: can tell you that I know this, You know this 493 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: from a law enforcement side, for sure, anything you text 494 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: or email is effectively record for a court to draw upon. Well, 495 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: they don't record your phone calls, So a lot of 496 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: things get talked about on the phone that are maybe 497 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: in the gray area of what we can and can't 498 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: do in law enforcement, with everyone knowing that that's not 499 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: going to be able to be subpoenut unless they're actively 500 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: If they're already actively monitoring your phone, it means you're 501 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: in a whole lot of trouble for something else. So 502 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: there are I'm just saying when people see like Bongino 503 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: and Patel at the FBI, they're trying to uncover a 504 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: massive amount of problems and fix those problems. And also 505 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: the people there are pretty good at hiding problems and 506 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: hiding their tracks if they want to be That's really 507 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: what I'm It's not as simple as like, oh, we 508 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: have the you know, like to your point at the 509 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: Code Red like, there was never a Code Red meeting. 510 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: We need to make sure that Biden wins this election. 511 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: But could you have had four or five of the 512 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 1: top people in the FBI meeting Comy's office and be like, 513 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: make sure that our people know that, you know, we're 514 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: weighing on this in the following or whatever. Absolutely, And 515 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: that's how that stuff really gets done. It's a little 516 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: bit like a mafia family, you know, the mafia. Don 517 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't write out in an email like I need 518 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: you to take out Tommy Tuto's, but he whispers to 519 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: somebody about Tommy Tuto's and then he sleeps with the 520 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: fishes well. And then also, I mean, and this is 521 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: something that I think is not unique to the FBI, 522 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: but you know it having been in the CIA. There's 523 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: a lot of guys and gals that are working in 524 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: the FBI right now that believe their job is permanent 525 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: and all they have to do is ride out the 526 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: storm of Trump for the next couple of years and 527 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: they go right back to doing what they were doing before, right, 528 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean that they are. And also I think a 529 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: lot of them even given the efforts to rein that in. 530 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: We're finding out that as long as they have activists, 531 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: left wing judges on their side, maybe they are unfirable. 532 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, that still remains to be seen in a 533 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: lot of these cases. So you know, they've been operating 534 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: under this assumption, and Trump is trying to make sure 535 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: that that assumption changes, or I should say, is shown 536 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: to be wrong. It has not been shown to be wrong. 537 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: How many people have been frog marched out of the 538 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 1: FBI for malfeasance relating to Russia collusion or anything like 539 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: that effectively? I mean none. I think that McCabe was fired, 540 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: and I believe he's had his full pension restored, so 541 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: he was going to be retiring pretty soon anyway, So 542 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: you could say, oh, he was fired and he was yeah, 543 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: but he's a hero to Democrats. He's got a book deal, 544 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: speaking circuit, and his pension's restored. So but if you 545 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: were lower level in the bowels of the bureaucracy, are 546 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: you right to think that administrations come and go, but 547 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: the bureau is forever. I will look, Cash and Dan 548 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: have been there for one hundred you know, roughly one 549 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: hundred days or whatever it is. Now, it's very early, 550 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, if you were one of those 551 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: people who was involved in this, who's still sitting there 552 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: drawing your paycheck and doing whatever you want you right now, 553 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: think you're probably still good to go. Maybe that changes. 554 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: And also they don't know who they can trust, which 555 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: is a huge part of this, right how many people 556 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: are actually trying to implement what they are doing. It's 557 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: a super big challenge, and I don't think it's unique 558 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: to the FBI. I think it's the reality is the 559 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: deep state. Swamp. 560 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: Employees by and large think that presidents are inconsequential to 561 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: their overall ability to maintain their job and do whatever 562 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: they think is important. That's why, frankly, from the get go, 563 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: I've felt pretty confident that we could eliminate half of 564 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: all federal employees and not have any actual, well disruption 565 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: in our day to day life as non federal employees. 566 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: One part of this that everyone should just understand, I think, 567 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: and it goes to why it's so hard to reform this. 568 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: The federal government, the bureaucracy in a lot of ways, 569 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: is a jobs program. There's a lot of jobs that 570 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 1: everybody knows aren't necessary but somebody's getting a paycheck to 571 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: do to show up and pretend to be doing the thing. 572 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: And there's enough of those people that and you know, 573 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: they have families, and they have they have votes, and 574 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: they have the ability to make their voices heard. You know, 575 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: it gets very it gets very difficult politically speaking to 576 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: rain that stuff in. Again, I'm not saying it won't happen, 577 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: but I've I said along even about Elon, who you 578 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: just told me is saying he's pretty much done. I 579 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: was like, Elon is used to being, in the best 580 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: possible way, private set dictator, like we're doing this, you're 581 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 1: not on board, you are fired. He has tried to 582 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: bring that discipline to the federal government and he's told 583 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 1: us a lot of critical stuff and he's shown the 584 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: public a lot, but you know what the bureaucracy has 585 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: said so far, we'll see. That's the frustration I think 586 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: of anyone. If you aren't in charge like Elon has 587 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: been in charge at SpaceX and Tesla and the Boring 588 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: Company and now XAI, he can make decisions. A lot 589 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: of people don't want to make decisions in the federal government. 590 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: They don't really want to do anything, and it's hard 591 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: to get the federal government to move in any particular 592 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: direction because the big sort of hot bound of bureaucracy. 593 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I could tell you one of the big 594 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: problems they have, and they had this at the CIA 595 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: when I was there, and this isn't self serving, but 596 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: they had this huge five to seven year exodus problem 597 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: of people do this stuff for five to seven years 598 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: and then and they it depends, you know, there's a 599 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: lot of reasons. Sometimes they want to get advanced degree, 600 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: or they you know, they want to just transition private sector. 601 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: But a lot of people leave the federal government if 602 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: they go in especially the really the intel community, because 603 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: people go like, if you're working at the Department of Agriculture, 604 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: you're probably just riding that out for until you get 605 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, all the way to right environment. But in 606 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: the in the intel agencies, and I'm sure the same 607 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: thing is true, maybe less so with the FBI, but 608 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: they were losing people five to seven years. And one 609 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: of the big challenges is when you have so many 610 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: people who are effectively replicating and even in a sense 611 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: competing with your work, because you're all doing the same 612 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: thing and trying to get the same decision makers to 613 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: pay attention to you. What value are you really bringing 614 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: day in a day out. So it's like after after five, six, seven, 615 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: maybe eight years, you've done cool stuff, you've learned cool stuff, 616 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: but then you have to show up and be like, 617 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: what am I really adding? And you know, if you 618 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: sit there and you're the guy at the you know, 619 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: now I'm really telling you what it's like. You sit 620 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: there and your analysts, you know, I'm making up the 621 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: numbers because this stuff is not you know, but you're 622 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: analy number fifty who's working like the China Taiwan issue 623 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: from your branch, and there's you know, then there's the 624 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: d d i A has one hundred analysts and they're 625 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: looking at the China time. 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