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Speaker 1: This is my legacy. In this bonus drop, Reverend Michael

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Speaker 1: beck With and Sterling K. Brown dive into how we

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Speaker 1: stay lifted when the world feels heavy. They reveal how

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Speaker 1: to turn fear into faith, pain into purpose, and separation

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Speaker 1: into love. Let's jump in.

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Speaker 2: So, Rev, what what stood out to you about Sterling

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Speaker 2: spirit and character when you first started getting to know him.

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Speaker 3: Uh, he's he's he's even though he's an actor, he's

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Speaker 3: not acting, you know, he's very honest. He's himself and

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Speaker 3: it's a lot of it was jovial. I remember we

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Speaker 3: had some event at Agape and he was just always

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Speaker 3: ready to to serve in his capacity. He was just

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Speaker 3: ready to be there fully and completely, very very approachable.

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Speaker 3: And both of them, him and his wife are very

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Speaker 3: smart people. I like smart people, and they're very they're

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Speaker 3: very you know, I don't mean like high falutin, but

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Speaker 3: it's very very intelligent folk. But I would say his

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Speaker 3: his sense of confidence, his sense of integrity, he just

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Speaker 4: Rev, You've spent at least forty years building a global

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Speaker 4: ministry and movement. So how has your message changed and evolved?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think that it has evolved based on my

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Speaker 3: own evolution and my own integration of my oneness with

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Speaker 3: the presence of God. The basic message never changes, which

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Speaker 3: we are all emanations of the Most High God, the

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Speaker 3: Living One, the Divine Presence. Each has chosen to be

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Speaker 3: here on this planet to represent this presence according to

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Speaker 3: our uniqueness, and that our uniqueness is our spiritual superpower.

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Speaker 3: Because there's no one exactly like us, So the great

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Speaker 3: God of the universe, you know, wants to know itself

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Speaker 3: as us. And so my attention from the beginning and

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Speaker 3: still to this day, even though I have, you know,

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Speaker 3: larger visions, is to help build the individual that that's

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Speaker 3: why I'm here. Like i've I've seen something that I

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Speaker 3: can't unsee, you know, when I had my first spiritual awakening.

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Speaker 5: And then over the years more and.

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Speaker 3: More deepening into that which is very real, very authentic.

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Speaker 3: I can't unsee that, and I have such a desire

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Speaker 3: here to contribute to the to the planet. Everyone is

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Speaker 3: that I've become more articulated and reminding people that there's

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Speaker 3: an insidious prison that we live in, and that's in

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Speaker 3: our own mind of of separation from God, which leads

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Speaker 3: to hate, bigotry, all matter of things. This sense of

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Speaker 3: but the basic message has stayed the same, and then

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Speaker 3: my own growth in it it has become, it becomes

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Speaker 3: So I'm unshakable with what I've seen, and so I

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Speaker 3: every week I'm disguided to hit the basic message and

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Speaker 3: or in the world on the world scene, the political saying.

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Speaker 3: You know, it will show me how to handle that

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Speaker 3: always I'm always on the edge of my own growth.

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Speaker 5: I remember having part of this conversation with you before

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Speaker 5: because I asked similar a similar question. Would you say

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Speaker 5: thought people thought that it was too strange. And now

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Speaker 5: you're like, I own it all, Like.

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Speaker 3: I am absolutely that is that is, you're absolutely articulating

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Speaker 3: I'd have to quote somebody or pretend that I was

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Speaker 3: quoting somebody. But today I can stand fully me. You know,

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Speaker 3: I know what I've gone through. I know what I

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Speaker 3: You know, I know, I know. I know that the

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Speaker 3: presence of God is love and loves us all, and

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Speaker 3: that God's eyes are too pure to behold inequity. God

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Speaker 3: only sees the potential in all of us. And and

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Speaker 3: I've had to learn to do that for myself. So

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Speaker 3: in terms of evolution, I've had to learn to uh

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Speaker 3: develop such an inner self worth that I can receive

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Speaker 3: and then I could just be me, you know. And

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Speaker 3: that's that was a growing edge for me. Why does

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Speaker 3: everybody love me. It's like, I'm just like, WHOA, what's

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Speaker 3: God and love people, and I trust God and I

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Speaker 3: love people. But I don't, I don't, I don't reverse it.

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Speaker 3: They may not be living up to the angels of

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Speaker 3: their higher nature Martin, so I love them.

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Speaker 7: Legacy, Sterling, your incredible edge of your seat, literally TV

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Speaker 7: series Paradise shows us there you go. It shows us

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Speaker 7: what a world on the brink looks like and what

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Speaker 7: humanity does in the aftermath of that. After bringing that

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Speaker 7: story to life, what did you come away believing about

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Speaker 7: how we can still find hope? We're still talking about

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Speaker 7: this hope even when the world feels chaotic.

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Speaker 3: Youoo boy, Let's see. I feel like.

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Speaker 5: Natural disasters are catastrophes or whatever, have a way of

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Speaker 5: bringing out, in a lot of ways, the best of humanity.

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Speaker 5: in community with one another to transcend obstacles. Right, and

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Speaker 5: then our can also bring out a very profound selfishness,

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Speaker 5: and so you get a chance to see like a

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Speaker 5: And sort of bringing that back to what the rever

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Speaker 5: is talking about, like, we have to be able to

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Speaker 5: show people that life is not a zero sum gang,

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Speaker 5: that things that may be of benefit for me or

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Speaker 5: for one particular group don't necessarily mean that another group

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Speaker 5: of people are going to be lose something. That the

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Speaker 5: that what I do as a storyteller, through media or whatnot,

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Speaker 5: And I think that's probably why there's been such an

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Speaker 5: things transpired, and there's probably a way in which I

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Speaker 5: can see myself connected to someone. I've had so many

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Speaker 5: someone that you don't see as yourself. You see yourself

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Speaker 5: can't sort of like make it into like you're a loser,

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Speaker 5: It's it's so clear to me, right, but it's you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm out of the veil. Rev also talk about things

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Speaker 5: The news is bad news. That's what like what sort

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Speaker 5: of like people click into. Fear is a powerful easy

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Speaker 5: Don't be uninformed, but don't be day loosed by it either.

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Speaker 3: Right in the middle round, peez it conditions your mind.

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Speaker 7: Well, one thing that always brings us together is music.

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Speaker 7: And we cannot end this this episode. We're talking about

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Speaker 7: if you want to amp up, if you want to

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Speaker 3: There's two and.

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Speaker 5: There's one that we were shooting late night on Paradise.

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Speaker 5: I could tell my crew and everybody was getting a

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Speaker 5: and things were taking a little longer than what they

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Speaker 5: outside doing this carnival scene and I started playing Phil Collins.

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Speaker 5: I can feel it coming in the air of night

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Speaker 5: and when the drum, when the drum kicks in, the

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Speaker 3: So that's always a good drum kick.

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Speaker 5: It takes about two minutes to get to him, but

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Speaker 5: it's great. And Pharrell has a song right now with

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Speaker 5: this choir called Joy Unspeakable nod your boy gets real,

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Speaker 3: It is wonderful. Yeah, I would say it isn't obviously

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Speaker 3: he's a lot. But one is Happy Feelings by Frankie

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Speaker 3: Beverly because he speaks about one. You know, he says,

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Speaker 3: I have myself to remind me about love. Has these

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Speaker 3: And the next verse he talks about he seemed the

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Speaker 3: I just always feel very connected to that song. And

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Speaker 8: Something I've attempted to apply and had to I guess losing.

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Speaker 8: Dad had ten and my grandmother at sixteen, both by

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Speaker 3: So I had to chose, because there's a.

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Speaker 2: Choice, chose to love as opposed to hate, and chose

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Speaker 3: Putting the big question on me? Are you?

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Speaker 3: So like your dad talked about a dream that he

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Speaker 3: Most people. I don't want to get too scientific here,

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Speaker 3: But in the quantum level, your future is there as well.

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Speaker 3: as we all begin to live at that level, which

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Speaker 3: once you bring people into inspiration of hope, they become

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Speaker 5: Love that.

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