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Speaker 4: Hey, No, we don't need that, we need we don't
Speaker 4: need nobody to kill vibes over here. It's game time
Speaker 4: till tomorrow at three twenty five p m.
Speaker 3: Of the Dallas Cowboys taking on the New York Giants.
Speaker 4: And we house obviously have some news starting with Brandon
Speaker 4: Cooks being activated for the first time.
Speaker 3: He's playing a game for the first time in two months.
Speaker 4: Uh some other moves with Kayln Carson being moved to
Speaker 4: IR along with Awesome Richards.
Speaker 3: Uh So, a couple of different roster moves.
Speaker 6: Going on today ahead of the Giants.
Speaker 4: But let's talk Brandon Cooks and what that means for
Speaker 4: this offense because we've all been talking about it, the
Speaker 4: fact that this team has still not found.
Speaker 3: Their true wide receiver too.
Speaker 4: You've seen guys step up though, like a Jalen Tolver
Speaker 4: last week against the Commanders. You've seen other guys like
Speaker 4: Cavante Turpin step up, step up as well, but it hasn't.
Speaker 3: Been that consistent. Yeah, So with having Brandon.
Speaker 4: Cooks back, what does that do for this offense going
Speaker 4: up against the Giants.
Speaker 7: I mean, even if Brandon Cooks is a little bit rusty,
Speaker 7: I do think he'll add another element to the offense
Speaker 7: that'll give him a little bit of a spark tomorrow,
Speaker 7: because like what we've seen so far is Seedy Lamb
Speaker 7: is a certain type of receiver, a very good one.
Speaker 7: He lines up everywhere, does all the things we've seen
Speaker 7: Cavante Turpin and how he can make people miss, and
Speaker 7: once he gets out in the open space, it's pretty
Speaker 7: much over. And so Brandon Cooks adds a whole nother
Speaker 7: element and we haven't seen them do like a lot
Speaker 7: of deep balls down the field, especially since Cooper Rush
Speaker 7: has taken over, So I don't know if that element
Speaker 7: will come back. I really have no idea what to expect,
Speaker 7: if I'm being quite honest, because since Cooper Rush has
Speaker 7: been has taken over at QB, I feel like we've
Speaker 7: seen a different team every week, and with Brandon Cooks
Speaker 7: were adding a different type of receiver. But you listen
Speaker 7: to what Seedee Lamb said yesterday when he was talking
Speaker 7: about what he wanted to see from the from the
Speaker 7: receiver unit and how he wanted them to take advantage
Speaker 7: of how they're you know, sometimes double teaming and triple
Speaker 7: teaming him. And now you know there's gonna be people
Speaker 7: watching out for Cavante Turpin. You put Brandon Cooks out there.
Speaker 7: I feel like it might legitimately confuse the defense. So
Speaker 7: I'm excited whatever they bring to the table. I'm like,
Speaker 7: let's let's do it like we They have everything to
Speaker 7: gain and almost nothing to lose at this point, So yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm excited.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: A second, I don't know, I have no one knows.
Speaker 9: And I only say that just because based off of
Speaker 9: what we saw.
Speaker 5: From Brandon Cooks prior to this. Now, I will say
Speaker 5: I do think that this knee injury or whatever had
Speaker 5: been bothering him, and you could kind of see that
Speaker 5: in his play, just the lack of separation and how
Speaker 5: he was navigating. I don't, we don't, no, Like, That's
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like, and he hasn't played football how.
Speaker 7: Many weeks and even when he was in the rotation
Speaker 7: he didn't two months of opportunities.
Speaker 5: I mean, he hasn't played football and too much. And
Speaker 5: Brandon Cooks takes impeccable care of his body. You know,
Speaker 5: the players have even talked about that. So I'm sure
Speaker 5: he's physically ready, but football is football, and it is
Speaker 5: going to take probably some time for him to adjust
Speaker 5: and get back into football shape. So for me, I
Speaker 5: have no idea what to expect from him other than
Speaker 5: them to kind of have a ramp up period. And
Speaker 5: also too, it'll be interesting to see how teams respond
Speaker 5: to him, if they do respect his presence or not,
Speaker 5: because they were not before. They was like, we see
Speaker 5: you out here.
Speaker 2: Cooks, we don't care.
Speaker 9: So hopefully he can come back out.
Speaker 5: And I think this is the last year of his deal.
Speaker 3: No, I believe, yeah, two years, so this is the
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 5: He got some money to make too, absolutely, So you know,
Speaker 5: this is an important time. We've been talking about some
Speaker 5: of these young guys that you know are trying to
Speaker 5: set themselves up. He also is too, and I'm sure
Speaker 5: him being on the field is something that he wanted
Speaker 5: so he can finish this year strong after had dealing
Speaker 5: with the injury that he's been dealing with.
Speaker 4: It was a guy I wanted to try and grab
Speaker 4: yesterday in locker room, but I didn't get a chance
Speaker 4: to unfortunately, because I had to do Thanksgiving stuff for pregame.
Speaker 4: But no, I was gonna ask him about how I'd
Speaker 4: be He been working with Cooper Rush because guys like
Speaker 4: Cavante Turpin and Jalen Brooks, those guys have been able
Speaker 4: to get reps with Cooper Rush when in training, campus,
Speaker 4: off season, and leading up until now, So.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of yeah, like I'm kind.
Speaker 4: Of concerned about what to expect or I mean, what
Speaker 4: kind of work did he get in practice? That's something
Speaker 4: that I was hoping to ask him, But I guess
Speaker 4: we'll find out tomorrow what kind of work that'll translate into.
Speaker 4: But moving forward onto the running back room, this is
Speaker 4: kind of an opportunity for Rico Dwell to maybe get a.
Speaker 3: Little bit of some rhythm going.
Speaker 4: I know last week he of course led the way
Speaker 4: with over eighty rushing yards, But when you look at
Speaker 4: this Giants defense, what opportunities will be there before we.
Speaker 5: Kodoo a lot? I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I
Speaker 5: mean you got big Dexter Lawrence in the middle, Thibodeau
Speaker 5: and Burns on each edge. I would say that Burns
Speaker 5: to me, is a little bit stronger of a run
Speaker 5: stopper on the edge. However, I wouldn't just force the issue.
Speaker 5: I know that this Cowboys interior got some movement last week.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'll be forcing the issue with
Speaker 5: that of a Dexter Lawrence double team him, get his
Speaker 5: ass out the way. He is a big human he
Speaker 5: when you go looking within the rung grading scales, he
Speaker 5: is just consistently still despite them being terrible as a
Speaker 5: run stopping team at this point, he is still grades
Speaker 5: high there. He's still like seventy six I a seventy
Speaker 5: six run stopper, despite the rest of the guy's not
Speaker 5: being strong around him. Yes, so I wouldn't force the
Speaker 5: issue attacking him there. I think you can attack their
Speaker 5: linebackers and coverage, so yeah, I think Rico can do
Speaker 5: some of the same things he was doing last week.
Speaker 5: You can attack them in the screen game.
Speaker 9: Their edges have pass rush ability.
Speaker 5: But they're at times just not interested in stopping the
Speaker 5: run consistently, so I think you can take advantage of
Speaker 5: that and them being a more so pass rushy edge
Speaker 5: group where they're trying to get upfield, kind of do
Speaker 5: what you did last week, use it against them, go
Speaker 5: behind them or misdirection as well. I think could benefit
Speaker 5: with the Rico daddos, but yeah, he should definitely still
Speaker 5: just be getting the bucal the reps at this point.
Speaker 7: I like that you mentioned them not stopping the run
Speaker 7: consistently because I feel like that's the thing. It's like
Speaker 7: they've got some names on that defensive line, but it's
Speaker 7: the consistency that just doesn't seem to be there. It
Speaker 7: feels like sometimes they feel like doing it and other
Speaker 7: times they don't, And I really can't. I don't know
Speaker 7: what to point to that accounts for that, but I
Speaker 7: do think that if they show up against the Cowboys
Speaker 7: the same being inconsistent and not really taking every place seriously,
Speaker 7: it's something that especially this rendition of the offensive line,
Speaker 7: can definitely take advantage of and make some opportunities for
Speaker 7: Rico because he's one of those guys you get him
Speaker 7: to the second level and it's like he usually ends
Speaker 7: up with those longer runs. The problems for Rico usually
Speaker 7: pop up whenever he gets stopped either behind the line
Speaker 7: of scrimmage or within a few yards. So I really
Speaker 7: feel like they're going to be able to make some
Speaker 7: opportunities with them if they continue to show up and
Speaker 7: not be consistent snap after snaping what they do defensively.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it also helps because you look back at
Speaker 4: what Rico was able to do against the Giants in
Speaker 4: Week four, only forty six rushing yards eighty total for
Speaker 4: the entire running back room.
Speaker 3: But this offensive line has certainly improved.
Speaker 4: Rico's improved, everyone in that running back room has improved.
Speaker 4: How much do you feel like that can take this
Speaker 4: run game to new heights on Thursday.
Speaker 5: I think they have some momentum. I know a lot
Speaker 5: of people we had a conversation. I had a conversation
Speaker 5: with someone like, is momentum real?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real?
Speaker 5: What are you talking about? I think that this run
Speaker 5: game is gaining some momentum. And again, I know we
Speaker 5: saw that Tyler Smith verbalize that he wanted to play
Speaker 5: on Sunday, that he's expecting to play on Sunday. Hopefully
Speaker 5: he's healthy and good to go, because again that gives
Speaker 5: you a boost. But what we saw from Cooper, bb
Speaker 5: Hoffman and TJ. Bass, you know, they're firing off the
Speaker 5: ball and the forcefulness that they were able to run with.
Speaker 5: I do think this offensive line is figuring some things
Speaker 5: out as far as like in the run game. But
Speaker 5: also to I thought, just again made a good point
Speaker 5: the other day, is the fact that there are some
Speaker 5: continuity between those guys. They were the guys getting the
Speaker 5: second team reps, so them rushing in unison is not
Speaker 5: surprising in that sense, and also too with Rico Daddo's
Speaker 5: starting to be the lead back. He is now the
Speaker 5: lead back. It also allows your offensive line to get
Speaker 5: a feel for their runner and the way he likes
Speaker 5: to and the way he likes to attack or eats
Speaker 5: little things of like, even so when he likes to accelerate,
Speaker 5: when he likes to accelerate in a route so or
Speaker 5: in enduring a run. So I think that also plays
Speaker 5: a role. Oh and these guys getting more comfortable in
Speaker 5: their wrong game.
Speaker 7: That was something that Rico actually mentioned himself earlier in
Speaker 7: the season that he felt like it was hard for
Speaker 7: the running back room in general to get going because
Speaker 7: there wasn't any continuity and the blockers couldn't really get
Speaker 7: a feel for what the runners were doing and vice versa.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I would say now that they're having that
Speaker 7: and they and Rico is getting more reps and they're
Speaker 7: getting used to him, I would say that's definitely making
Speaker 7: a difference. Because you heard him say it, you heard
Speaker 7: Schottenheimer comment comment on it just about how you know,
Speaker 7: the feel wasn't really there, and so now that they're
Speaker 7: getting it, it is absolutely making a big difference. And
Speaker 7: then when it comes to the offensive line, not only
Speaker 7: is there continuity there, but it's like I mean, often
Speaker 7: just brings a different type of energy. Doesn't mean like
Speaker 7: I think that makes a difference. And it's an energy
Speaker 7: that scares me sometimes because sometimes it feels like he's
Speaker 7: kind of tiptoeing on the edge of like, Okay, you're
Speaker 7: gonna get yourself in troubles. Yeah, but it's an energy
Speaker 7: that kind of feels like it's helping the offense. I
Speaker 7: think they kind of they kind of needed that a
Speaker 7: little bit. So I think all of it is coming
Speaker 7: together for the good of the run game in a way.
Speaker 3: Well is offensive line do you want to see more from?
Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like I know the answer, but for.
Speaker 5: Me in general, yeah, uh, I honestly want to see
Speaker 5: more of TJ. Bass and that being because you're going
Speaker 5: into an off season where we know some of what
Speaker 5: Zach Martin is going through. I just don't know what
Speaker 5: the conversation is around that. However, you should always be
Speaker 5: looking to draft offensive line. Let's just keep it there,
Speaker 5: whether it's in the mid rounds or higher rounds, however
Speaker 5: you do it. Yeah, and I do think seeing him,
Speaker 5: him and Hoffman get more reps will give you some
Speaker 5: more information going into the draft. You do not want
Speaker 5: to be drafting for need. If these guys are suitable,
Speaker 5: you know, rotational players, then that puts you in a
Speaker 5: better situation going into next draft. I hated to see
Speaker 5: that Austin Richards went on IR today. I thought that
Speaker 5: he was definitely showing improve as the tackle, as if
Speaker 5: he is going to be the swing tackle again. Because
Speaker 5: you have Matt Well let's go, you have Josh Ball,
Speaker 5: you have guys that you are going to have to
Speaker 5: make a decision about at the end of the season.
Speaker 5: I kind of want to continue to see some of
Speaker 5: these backup offensive linemen so we can kind of gauge
Speaker 5: what things could look like going into the draft after
Speaker 5: the season's over. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Same, I would have said awesome if he wasn't hurt,
Speaker 7: But like bast for the same reasons. When you hear
Speaker 7: people talk about what the needs might be for next season, like, uh,
Speaker 7: wire names escaping me today.
Speaker 3: Basically so we get it.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's ADHD. For those who don't know.
Speaker 7: My ADHD makes me forget names at some of them
Speaker 7: know the Hall of famer that you mentioned.
Speaker 5: Oh, Martin zach Ma. There we go.
Speaker 7: That is the name that comes up when it comes
Speaker 7: to like who people are anticipating won't be here.
Speaker 2: Despite the terms of his contract, but things to think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 7: But but that's one of the names that comes up.
Speaker 7: So for that reason, like, yeah, I do want to
Speaker 7: see more bad just just to see like, Okay, do
Speaker 7: we already have his replacement or is that something that
Speaker 7: we need to think about as we have those conversations.
Speaker 4: Mine was going to be Terrence Steele, just because I
Speaker 4: think this is the end of his contract, his final
Speaker 4: year in his contract as well.
Speaker 3: If I'm not.
Speaker 4: Mistaken, double check that the twenty twenty four none.
Speaker 5: Bad because I.
Speaker 2: See him do better. Because that's no I want to
Speaker 2: say more.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, since we've kind of talked about
Speaker 4: this since last year, is the fact that he's you know,
Speaker 4: still not still but he's still kind of in the
Speaker 4: process of returning back from his aco injury that he's
Speaker 4: suffered in twenty twenty two. But I think that he
Speaker 4: hasn't gotten back to his full self and I want
Speaker 4: to see him kind of be a little bit more physical.
Speaker 4: It's been times where really this whole season where he's
Speaker 4: just gotten bullied at the line of scrimmage, and that's
Speaker 4: something that I don't want to see from Terrence Steele,
Speaker 4: especially when you need some physicality upfront.
Speaker 3: I definitely want to see a little bit more that.
Speaker 2: Gives you hope or are you just like, is this
Speaker 2: more of a wish more wish?
Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit more. There's been moments,
Speaker 4: there's been times where he has he's had I think
Speaker 4: it's when he has help, when he has titands helping
Speaker 4: with extra protection, he's a little bit better.
Speaker 3: But I want to see where he doesn't need that,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: I mean that's something that she typically don't want to
Speaker 4: have to do because it allows guys like Jake Ferguson
Speaker 4: to be a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Like a weapon.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you some sister, I already know you're
Speaker 5: going to say that. I think. I think what he
Speaker 5: is right now is what he is. It hurts me,
Speaker 5: I will say. I will say from a coaching standpoint, yeah,
Speaker 5: that might be something that could possibly change this offseason
Speaker 5: just because of everything that's going on. Whatever. I would
Speaker 5: like to see, every coach teaches different things. This offensive
Speaker 5: line has struggled the last two years despite being very talented.
Speaker 5: But is it the coaching or I think it can be.
Speaker 5: I think it's technique. I think it could be a
Speaker 5: mixture of certain things because we don't know what they're
Speaker 5: being asked to do. We don't know if it's different
Speaker 5: than what maybe there used to being. Coach. Joe Philben
Speaker 5: is Terrence Steel is Joe Philben's baby, not Mike Clari's.
Speaker 5: And these are things that come up when you do
Speaker 5: coaching changes. Is that there's technique in coaching changes and
Speaker 5: what they're asked to do. So that's something I'm trying
Speaker 5: to pump my brakes on. But as far as just
Speaker 5: how Terrence is playing, he still finds confidence in the
Speaker 5: run game. I agree with you that he can look.
Speaker 5: He looks that he has really good reps, and then
Speaker 5: he has reps where you're just like, what's happening And
Speaker 5: it is very inconsistent in that sense. And you know,
Speaker 5: to Terrence's credit, this is an undrafted free agent that
Speaker 5: has become a starter in this league. Busted his tail
Speaker 5: to get back from the ACL, came back last year,
Speaker 5: played all season, and he was a little early. I
Speaker 5: respect him for what he's done. But you know, obviously
Speaker 5: we have to talk about what the play looks like
Speaker 5: on the field, and both of your tackles cannot be
Speaker 5: problem spots.
Speaker 2: We can't.
Speaker 5: It's a problem. As a matter of fact, we're about
Speaker 5: to see that again this week. You're gonna see what
Speaker 5: it looks like when both of your tackles are struggling.
Speaker 5: I think that Tyler Guidan has found some things, you know,
Speaker 5: and obviously awesome has been out there as well as spots.
Speaker 2: So that spot.
Speaker 5: There has been times where Terrence there's been more pressure
Speaker 5: coming from the right side than the left, and there's
Speaker 5: a rook on the other side. Yep. So it's tough
Speaker 5: and it's a hard conversation to have because I have
Speaker 5: a lot of respect from Terrence, but you want one
Speaker 5: hundred percent correct. We do need to see better play
Speaker 5: from him, otherwise you might be going into the draft
Speaker 5: or free agency asking some questions.
Speaker 7: I think it's fair to have respect for him, you know,
Speaker 7: that's why he got the extension that he got. He's
Speaker 7: done things to earn that respect. But going back to
Speaker 7: your point about coaching, there are some players who they
Speaker 7: will stick strictly to what the coach tells him to do,
Speaker 7: whereas there are some players will kind of like use
Speaker 7: that to loosely guide what it is that they do.
Speaker 7: So it is possible that if he's one of those
Speaker 7: guys that's like, I'm going to try to follow these
Speaker 7: instructions to the tea, maybe there is something about those
Speaker 7: instructions that's like tripping him up a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's possible because I think he's recovered.
Speaker 5: Anytime I've talked to Terrence, and I'm very candid with him, Well,
Speaker 5: he looked.
Speaker 4: Good in training camp. Yes, it's really good in training camp.
Speaker 4: That's where it's kind of like, I'm I'm.
Speaker 2: I think he's recovered.
Speaker 5: I think he's it's what we're a year and.
Speaker 3: Like almost.
Speaker 5: It'll be almost two years and recovered. He's recovered from
Speaker 5: that injury. I don't think it's a lack of confidence.
Speaker 5: He's just getting beat and so again like what are
Speaker 5: they again? What are they being asked to do? Because
Speaker 5: I remember I don't remember which offensive line coach it was,
Speaker 5: but he wanted them to be more reactive then, yes,
Speaker 5: more reactive than be the initiator. Maybe it wasn't Phil,
Speaker 5: but I maybe it was the coach before that, but
Speaker 5: one of their coaches. I remember the coaches talking the
Speaker 5: players talking about it in training camp on the fan
Speaker 5: that they were saying the different things that they were
Speaker 5: being taught to do. And I'm like, yeah, but I
Speaker 5: need y'all to be putting people in the dirt. I
Speaker 5: need you to be punching. I need you to be
Speaker 5: redirecting people with your hands. I need you to be physical.
Speaker 5: And that's what you're lacking from Terrence. Sometimes he doesn't
Speaker 5: even get his hands on people. They're moving so fast
Speaker 5: on him.
Speaker 4: But you don't see that from Tyler Smith. No, you
Speaker 4: don't see that from Zach Martin.
Speaker 5: Even with Guiden even has some of his issues and
Speaker 5: it's similar sometimes, but Guiden has And I think Terrence
Speaker 5: Steel is a fantastic athlete. Guidance's feet save him a lot.
Speaker 5: Terrence's Terrence's hands, Terrence's hands are not as fast as
Speaker 5: his feet and his feet like it's not married together
Speaker 5: right now, and people are just blowing past and he's
Speaker 5: opening up his hips. He's oversetting. Like that tells me
Speaker 5: he's not confident in being able to kick and get
Speaker 5: out wide and get in position.
Speaker 7: If you're not confident. That's gonna make you be more
Speaker 7: reactionary anyway.
Speaker 5: He sees the film and he's a hard worker. Oh so,
Speaker 5: And that's what I'm saying, is like it's either technique
Speaker 5: or he just can't do it, because one thing I
Speaker 5: know about Terrence is that he's working to be able
Speaker 5: to do it. He works harder than maybe anyone else
Speaker 5: in the locker room. So it's hard to see it
Speaker 5: sucks for real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, hopefully we see a little bit better, yes,
Speaker 4: And we're gonna have a lot.
Speaker 6: Of confidence in him moving forward.
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Speaker 5: And the sad part is like, no, one war doesn't
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Speaker 2: Link. But but you were about to y'all do what's dope?
Speaker 3: I'm giving y'all one.
Speaker 4: Josh Butler, Yeah, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Give you one guess.
Speaker 5: He didn't?
Speaker 6: Did did?
Speaker 5: What's dope?
Speaker 2: There's so many things doe.
Speaker 4: No, what's dope is the fact that Luke Schoolmaker is
Speaker 4: being trusted in the passing game.
Speaker 2: That is also dope, seeing his.
Speaker 6: Snap can go up.
Speaker 4: Uh, but no, when you look back to Week four
Speaker 4: against the Giants, he had no touches, no catches in
Speaker 4: the passing game. Of course, with Jake Ferguson going down
Speaker 4: with the concussion, that's changed and obviously been a huge
Speaker 4: reason of why.
Speaker 6: You're seeing a little bit more of Blue schooon Maker.
Speaker 4: But he's played well, he's played well, he's developed some
Speaker 4: trust within the coaching staff, specifically off of last week.
Speaker 3: How much do y'all feel like this.
Speaker 4: Team should start implementing him in the passing game starting tomorrow?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the path that they're on
Speaker 2: is good.
Speaker 7: I can't really say how much they should start implementing
Speaker 7: him in the passing game because it feels like there's
Speaker 7: already so much up in the air, like we don't
Speaker 7: know what's gonna have happen mc brandy cooks.
Speaker 2: Will they change how they use turpent?
Speaker 7: There's already a lot of questions, so like it's hard
Speaker 7: for me to answer that. However, I do like the
Speaker 7: fact that he is getting more snaps. I feel like
Speaker 7: they almost don't have a choice really.
Speaker 6: Just what they think.
Speaker 3: Would you like to see him get a little bit
Speaker 3: more snaps?
Speaker 7: I mean, sure, why not? Especially against who they're playing tomorrow.
Speaker 7: If they do want to try that and see how
Speaker 7: it goes, tomorrow is a good day to do it.
Speaker 7: So absolutely, I think when they have been trusting him,
Speaker 7: he's shown that he is trustworthy in a lot of instances,
Speaker 7: So absolutely, go for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what it is about tight ends
Speaker 5: the Cowboys Titans versus the Giants. What if you go
Speaker 5: go back and look at and Schultz some of Jake
Speaker 5: Ferguson's games, his early games, like Blake Jarring, like drawing,
Speaker 5: like they just be tearing the giants up. Blake got
Speaker 5: tight ends always have a day. But in regards to
Speaker 5: whether I want to see more of him, yes, I
Speaker 5: me evaluate, go ahead and draft another tight end.
Speaker 3: You want to draft another one?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 4: Mmm, okay, So Jake got Luke, you got Brevin Well.
Speaker 4: You guys also have to see what John Stevens looks like.
Speaker 5: To which is and and And that's why I said
Speaker 5: you need to he needs gone ahead, go ahead and
Speaker 5: invest in a tight end. Uh. Again, this does not
Speaker 5: have to be early rounds, but I just think you
Speaker 5: need to add more uh to that room at this point.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, Luke Schoomaker is showing some things in the
Speaker 5: blocking game. I think he made some tough contests to
Speaker 5: catch his last week. H showing off some of his
Speaker 5: concentration stuff like that. Obviously, Brevan spam Ford they're designing
Speaker 5: some place for him. I was a couple of some
Speaker 5: of the players they ran last week. I did a
Speaker 5: film breakdown looking at some of the things they did
Speaker 5: with him and some of the stuff we haven't seen.
Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, okay, they kind of maybe
Speaker 5: see something there with him as well, and it's fine,
Speaker 5: Like Brevis Spanford, undrafted free agent from Minnesota. He's someone
Speaker 5: that they he got to pay a little penny for
Speaker 5: undrafted free agent. They have some expectations from him. Luke Schoolmaker,
Speaker 5: they have expectations from him the same way that you
Speaker 5: said you want to see more Terance. Still, I would
Speaker 5: like to see more Luke Schoolmaker because again, it's gonna
Speaker 5: give me information on you know, they're being kind of
Speaker 5: thrust into this position because we've been talking about it
Speaker 5: all year, that tight end to spot is there and
Speaker 5: no one is consistently taking it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like someone might show up a game, but then you
Speaker 5: look back the next game and then you look up
Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, well who's tight end too? So I
Speaker 5: do think this is an opportunity for one of them
Speaker 5: to separate themselves, or for both of them to show
Speaker 5: what they're capable of. But I really think that tight
Speaker 5: end feels like a need going into next season just
Speaker 5: for death purposes, especially what would happen to John Stevens Jr.
Speaker 5: Which is very tragic and we're hoping the best for him.
Speaker 4: Still sticking with Thursday though, when you talk about the
Speaker 4: tight ends they've been used on some big play opportunities
Speaker 4: and that there's opportunities for explosive plays.
Speaker 6: When you're talking about the Cowboys, do you feel like.
Speaker 3: It'll be more of maybe a Brevin span Ford.
Speaker 4: That should get those opportunities or do you think they
Speaker 4: should kind of stick to feeding Luke.
Speaker 5: And whatever the situation calls for. I mean, I think
Speaker 5: that Cooper Rush has a rapport with kind of both
Speaker 5: of them.
Speaker 9: It seems like so to me, I would.
Speaker 7: I feel like they could go either way, whoever is
Speaker 7: open exactly whoever crying. I think although we're seeing good
Speaker 7: things from them, we still haven't seen any anybody set
Speaker 7: themselves so much farther apart that it's like, oh no,
Speaker 7: that's the one who needs to get it. We've seen
Speaker 7: different things, but it hasn't necessarily been so much more
Speaker 7: from one of the other. So I think it all
Speaker 7: just depends on what they feel comfortable doing and what
Speaker 7: the defense is responding to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you can attack the middle of this
Speaker 5: Giants defense. You got a couple guys in their secondary
Speaker 5: just dealing with some injuries. Uh uh. Deontay Banks I
Speaker 5: think is dealing with a rib injury. The other es Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the other gentleman up for them. Hold on, let me see,
Speaker 5: I'm dripping.
Speaker 2: I mean Elijah Riley, but.
Speaker 9: He's I think was Nuban dealing with something too.
Speaker 5: M h, he's not on here, Barnacles. There's enough corner
Speaker 5: for them that's dealing with something or not. Maybe it's
Speaker 5: not a corner of safety anyway.
Speaker 2: So they've got Tay Banks.
Speaker 5: I had their I had their depth sharp pulled up.
Speaker 5: That's on me. But anyway, I do think that you
Speaker 5: can attack the middle of their defense. You saw last
Speaker 5: week the Cowboys clearly saw some opportunities to attack the
Speaker 5: middle field. They did with Bourbon spin Ford on a fake.
Speaker 5: He just kind of rolled out to the out side.
Speaker 5: They did it with Ceedee Lamb coming across the field.
Speaker 5: They did it with a schoolmaker of the scene. So
Speaker 5: Dallas saw a weak point. And when you look at
Speaker 5: the Giants defense, they don't typically run a lot of man.
Speaker 5: They're gonna opt to do zone because they got some
Speaker 5: youngins and they're not trying to get them burnt. So
Speaker 5: I do think for Cooper Rush, the type of quarterback
Speaker 5: that he is, which is very much so the ball
Speaker 5: comes out quickly. He's trying to be on time. I
Speaker 5: think they will try to find some soft spots in
Speaker 5: this zone, specifically like the middle of the field, which
Speaker 5: is scary place, but you can attack it. So I
Speaker 5: would attack the middle of their defense. Their nickel corner
Speaker 5: isn't the strongest as well, So yeah, when.
Speaker 3: You talk, sorry, I'm sorry, I know.
Speaker 4: I was looking at some of the things that they do,
Speaker 4: which is play a lot of single high safety.
Speaker 6: Then I looked at found a stat from CD He's.
Speaker 3: Been targeted on half.
Speaker 6: This was against the Giants, by the way.
Speaker 4: In Week four, Sorry, he was targeted on half of
Speaker 4: his routes versus single high safety coverage and week four
Speaker 4: against the Giants catching every one of his targets for
Speaker 4: eighty eight yards.
Speaker 6: And a touchdown. Can this be another big game for.
Speaker 2: C for Turping? I thought about Turping.
Speaker 5: Okay, you're telling me, you tell me who's your safety?
Speaker 4: I mean Tyler Nuban can move. But yeah, that's what
Speaker 4: that's who I was thinking about today. He's not on
Speaker 4: it today.
Speaker 2: He was on it yesterday.
Speaker 5: It was yesterday. It's the back, it's the back.
Speaker 3: What's today? Oh, today's Wednesday?
Speaker 4: He is on there limited, he was limited today's but
Speaker 4: there's no back, but there's no game status. They only
Speaker 4: have for their game statuses. Deontay Banks questionable. Uh, Tommy
Speaker 4: DeVito questionable, which is hello, as he went to I
Speaker 4: R and then they have on watch their defensive linement out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we have another slam police to the house.
Speaker 5: I beg of the if they gonna put that with
Speaker 5: if they and again, uh, Tyler Nuban is more of
Speaker 5: a strong but they will have him do some free stuff.
Speaker 5: He is rangey, he can run. I don't think any
Speaker 5: of these guys can run with Cavante Turpin. I would
Speaker 5: no Lacey, who can single?
Speaker 11: Hi?
Speaker 2: Are you okay?
Speaker 5: Fine?
Speaker 2: What you got?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 7: I'm glad that you brought up Turpin like I was
Speaker 7: gonna comment on this being another game for a CD,
Speaker 7: which I think yes, especially like I mean, he's he's
Speaker 7: become more of an aggressive player. The block that he
Speaker 7: laid last week was really impressive. I like seeing that
Speaker 7: from him because you kind of saw it for a
Speaker 7: second where he did that thing he does where he's like,
Speaker 7: where's my flag and then all of a sudden he
Speaker 7: was like, oh wait, the play is still going, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, yes, growth absolutely so, between that type of
Speaker 7: growth and him lining up all over the field, Like, yes,
Speaker 7: of course this has the potential to be a big
Speaker 7: game for CD. But something else that could make it
Speaker 7: a big game for CD is the fact that Cavante
Speaker 7: Turpin is bringing so much to the table and he's
Speaker 7: becoming so much more of a recognizable threat. So I
Speaker 7: do believe it could it could potentially be a big
Speaker 7: game for both of them for different reasons. Turpin has
Speaker 7: grown in in several ways, like, yes, he's a fast guy,
Speaker 7: but it also feels like he's seeing the field a
Speaker 7: little bit better when it comes to which blocks he's
Speaker 7: following or which path he decides to take. It just
Speaker 7: feels like he's making so much better choices than he
Speaker 7: did even earlier this season. And the way that he's
Speaker 7: able to cut to the inside, get himself open for
Speaker 7: the quarterback and then it's just open field in front
Speaker 7: of him. Wow, that is just that's not something we've
Speaker 7: seen a lot from the wide receiver room.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's catching the ball a little bit better too.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, he wasn't as confidence as confident with his
Speaker 4: hands at the start of the season, so you're seeing
Speaker 4: a little bit more confidence in that.
Speaker 3: Area as well.
Speaker 6: Also, let's look at.
Speaker 4: This injury port real quick, because we did not take
Speaker 4: a look at it at the beginning. Eric Kendricks is
Speaker 4: questionable for tomorrow, and then of course Marshawn Neeland is doubtful,
Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs questionable.
Speaker 3: You have Drake Ferry, wh we alread knew that he was.
Speaker 4: Out, and Anicividual questionable.
Speaker 6: He was limited in today's practice.
Speaker 3: Uh is this I cannot goodness?
Speaker 5: There we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Zach Martin is ruled out. So let's start with
Speaker 4: Eric Kendricks. Eric Kendricks questionable. How big of a loss
Speaker 4: is that?
Speaker 5: Or is it?
Speaker 6: In the mont Clark we were talking about this as fie.
Speaker 5: I think it's a loss, but I think like, and
Speaker 5: I say this in the most respectful way I can.
Speaker 5: He's been injured almost all season. It's been on and off,
Speaker 5: and he's been on the field, he's off the field.
Speaker 5: He's been on the field off the field. You know
Speaker 5: who's been on the field on special teams? Who's healthy?
Speaker 5: The mont Clark just play them, just play them, just
Speaker 5: just I mean, I get it, and I understand. Eric
Speaker 5: Hendricks is clearly banged up. He was dealing with the
Speaker 5: bat coming out of training camp. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 5: let him get his rest. I get it. I understand
Speaker 5: what state and what part of his career he's in.
Speaker 5: But the moont Clark also too. I just think it's
Speaker 5: about that time, Like what you to your point, like
Speaker 5: to the point we were talking about earlier, like you
Speaker 5: are kind of in evaluating in an evaluating state, and
Speaker 5: you haven't really gotten a good look at him for real.
Speaker 5: I mean, so I would go with the god that's
Speaker 5: mckelthy and just play some football.
Speaker 7: Kendrick's had a good game last week and it would
Speaker 7: be nice for him to be able to continue that.
Speaker 7: But this is yet another game where my main concern
Speaker 7: with him possibly being out comes to the organization of
Speaker 7: the defense. And I mainly say that just because Malik
Speaker 7: Neighbors has expressed some dissatisfaction with the offense, with the
Speaker 7: Giants offense publicly, and it seems like he has a
Speaker 7: better game when there's pre snap motion, and so it
Speaker 7: kind of makes me wonder, like, Okay, are we going
Speaker 7: to see more of that from the Giants because of
Speaker 7: what's being expressed, Like are they in a place where
Speaker 7: they are trying to win this game. Do they feel
Speaker 7: like they still have something to play for or are
Speaker 7: they going to bring the same old, same old to
Speaker 7: the table, or might they go ahead and step their
Speaker 7: game up just because that's what some teams do against
Speaker 7: the Cowboys, or because some of them are trying to
Speaker 7: be evaluated.
Speaker 2: So many questions, so many variables.
Speaker 7: But that's the main thing that worries me, is that
Speaker 7: if they do show up tomorrow and decide like, actually,
Speaker 7: we're here to win.
Speaker 2: We don't care that our QB is gone. We want
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 7: We're gonna implement some more emotion, try to get neighbors going.
Speaker 7: That kind of thing does kind of I don't know,
Speaker 7: it raises my intent is a little bit.
Speaker 2: But that's the main reason.
Speaker 7: Outside of that, I'm with you, Ayisha, like put them
Speaker 7: one Clark in or let somebody whoever get a chance,
Speaker 7: because there are some guys who need to be evaluated.
Speaker 7: There are some guys who can and have stepped up,
Speaker 7: you know, So from a personnel standpoint, I'm not as worried.
Speaker 7: It's the organization that concerns me. Like Kendricks has been
Speaker 7: good about that.
Speaker 3: Did you talk about guys that have stepped up? Josh Butler.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk to you about this because we kind
Speaker 4: of touched on Josh Butler and what he's done.
Speaker 3: The past couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: But do you feel like he can repeat what he's
Speaker 4: done tomorrow potentially?
Speaker 2: Now? Exactly what he did?
Speaker 3: Not exactly.
Speaker 7: That was literally a record breaking game that he had
Speaker 7: last week, and he's been so brading it all week
Speaker 7: on Instagram, as he should by all means, when you
Speaker 7: fight for five years to have a game like that,
Speaker 7: then yes, like give yourself flowers all day.
Speaker 2: So can he do it again?
Speaker 7: I believe so because the things that were enabling him
Speaker 7: to do that, it didn't seem like it was factors
Speaker 7: that can't be duplicated. It seemed like he was bringing
Speaker 7: his own energy, his own aggressiveness to the table. Now,
Speaker 7: the question is where was that before? Where did it
Speaker 7: come from?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 7: Why was that not brought to the table before? That's
Speaker 7: the thing that I think makes a lot of people
Speaker 7: question it. It's like, Okay, if you were fighting this
Speaker 7: long to get into the league, you finally get to
Speaker 7: the Cowboys, you finally get your shot, and you know this.
Speaker 7: It's not like this was his first time being on
Speaker 7: the field. So it's like where the depth chart girl
Speaker 7: opportunity when you think, like I dang, and so it's like,
Speaker 7: because we've seen it, we know he can do it again.
Speaker 2: But it's like, Okay, well why didn't he do it before?
Speaker 7: And that's what makes people say like, well, what if
Speaker 7: he can't, But I think he can, you know, and
Speaker 7: maybe that's maybe it's just something that had to be
Speaker 7: turned on.
Speaker 2: Maybe he had to feel it.
Speaker 7: You know. Sometimes people are like, you know what, I
Speaker 7: have nothing else to lose, so I'm just gonna go
Speaker 7: out there and do my thing. And then they do
Speaker 7: it and it's like, oh, this is what happens when
Speaker 7: I trust my own instincts and they step up. So
Speaker 7: maybe he'll do that again and he'll have another great game.
Speaker 5: So he's getting some help too from the I think
Speaker 5: the defensive line getting the amount of pressure that's a
Speaker 5: good point in sacks and things like that are something that,
Speaker 5: look Kingling Carson are like a word, I mean commercy
Speaker 5: it probably you know this with the lack of pass
Speaker 5: rush that this defensive line has had for the majority
Speaker 5: of the year prior to Michael Parsons getting back on
Speaker 5: the field, and again they were getting pressure, but it
Speaker 5: the metrics say they were getting pressures. But if you
Speaker 5: would go look within the game for the first seven
Speaker 5: weeks of the season, you're like, it.
Speaker 2: Was pressures by definition that.
Speaker 5: Man is that man can curl up in a blanket
Speaker 5: back there with how much time he had. So I
Speaker 5: felt like it was a really rough year to be
Speaker 5: a rookie in this defense. But for Josh Butler, He's
Speaker 5: always played with this fire and in preseason There's plenty
Speaker 5: times I've seen him in preseason and I've been like, oh,
Speaker 5: he's a little crazy.
Speaker 2: I like it. Hey, Hey, So.
Speaker 5: It's no surprise to me that like that kind of showed.
Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't say that he had the greatest
Speaker 5: game last week, but he came back this week, this
Speaker 5: past week and really showed he was capable of He's
Speaker 5: a press man, sticky corner and so yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 5: not sure. I'm not gonna situ like hes gonna have
Speaker 5: a living tackles lord have mirthy, But as far as
Speaker 5: the temperament of his play, that's who is a type place.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm I'm I'm looking forward to seeing what
Speaker 5: comes of the secondary this week.
Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought that up about the defensive line,
Speaker 7: because I literally was thinking, like, how did I not
Speaker 7: notice that he was so good at this whole tight
Speaker 7: coverage thing? But you know, having that little bit of
Speaker 7: help that does.
Speaker 2: Make it difference.
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Speaker 5: It's the holidays, the holiday, people's families day. I seen
Speaker 5: another I seen another fellow service dog. It was a
Speaker 5: little Minnie Azzie. It was so cute, It was so polite.
Speaker 5: It was just sitting there looking around.
Speaker 3: I'm crying. Was that dog like as nice as congo?
Speaker 9: It looked nice.
Speaker 5: It was just sitting there and just it looks so happy.
Speaker 5: You know, so well behaved going on a tour was
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Speaker 6: Dogs make you smile, they.
Speaker 3: Do, but another player should make.
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Speaker 5: I'm a dog, a dog?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 6: Sorry?
Speaker 4: Who will make you smile on Thursday?
Speaker 6: Go to Jack?
Speaker 7: No, because I'm gonna pick one of my favorite friends.
Speaker 7: If it's within the matchup you can't help that, well,
Speaker 7: then CD Lamb will make me smile because he's dope. Okay,
Speaker 7: well that's and probably who else was also dope?
Speaker 2: I didn't one offense, one defense, all.
Speaker 4: Right, we're doing one office, one defense, sure, all right, bet,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Who do I say last week?
Speaker 1: Dang?
Speaker 6: I don't remember, don't remember?
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go offense Rico o'dowdell because it's
Speaker 4: gonna be a huge game for him. You're going up
Speaker 4: against the thirtieth ring rushing defense.
Speaker 6: Is that who I said last I can't remember what
Speaker 6: you said.
Speaker 3: I don't remember either.
Speaker 4: I definitely didn't say Rico because I think uh Jess
Speaker 4: said Rico last week. It doesn't matter anyways, all right,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go reco offensively defensively.
Speaker 3: Dude, dude, dude, dude right now. Nope, Okay, I said
Speaker 3: demo last week. For sure. I know I said demo
Speaker 3: last week. I think I'm gonna go.
Speaker 6: Israel muamu Okay, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: I've seen some flashes of good things the past couple
Speaker 4: of weeks, uh, and I think that he's gonna continue
Speaker 4: to build off of that.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go Israel. Mccuama, you got, sister.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Brandon Aubrey, of course, listen, I like certainty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been a little less.
Speaker 5: Certain some of the operations and stuff. He Aubrey's getting
Speaker 5: like how we are with Zach Martin where it's like, well,
Speaker 5: how we were with Zach Martin worth he got a
Speaker 5: whole we were like blasphemy. There's no way.
Speaker 2: That's how it is with ay Ibbrey.
Speaker 5: Don't plan his foot right or somewhere like the grass
Speaker 5: down there, there's no way fix it, petition, but right,
Speaker 5: we will not blame him or nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with him.
Speaker 5: And I'm also gonna go with who's gonna make me
Speaker 5: smartest we I'm gonna go Brock Kaufman has a tall
Speaker 5: task dealing with Dexter Lawrence. On the inside, I.
Speaker 2: Think he can do it. I'm just afraid he's gonna
Speaker 2: actually punch that Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 5: Well, there's gonna be some double.
Speaker 3: Teams rock coffins nuts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's some double teams. I'm curious that he
Speaker 5: is a little crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think the matchup in general will make me smile.
Speaker 5: It may make me awkwardly smile. It makes me may
Speaker 5: make me nervously smile.
Speaker 2: Definitely nervously smile.
Speaker 5: I might still smile, I might still look I'm smiling.
Speaker 5: So I'm like they about wrastling in there, all right. Well,
Speaker 5: on that note, dang nuts, you're gonna have me signing nuts.
Speaker 7: It'll be the best fight at and D Stadium has
Speaker 7: seen all year.
Speaker 4: Yes, and they're gonna win their first home game of
Speaker 4: the year. Yes they are Cowboys Giants kickoff tomorrow. Make
Speaker 4: sure to catch us on pregame Live because we are
Speaker 4: gonna be talking about the matchup. That's Kyle Yeoman's Barry Church,
Speaker 4: Isaiah stand back, Nate Newan, myself Bingo, and.
Speaker 3: We will be back here next week talking about a win.
Speaker 2: Bring that energy.
Speaker 3: That's a rap.
Speaker 5: What was jazz dog to dog growling? Because they got
Speaker 5: that dog in them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got that dog in him. Ruth Girl. Sock
Speaker 3: Boys Talk will be back next week with more. See
Speaker 3: y'all next week.
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