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Speaker 1: right now, let's stay in the AFC North and let's

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Speaker 1: talk a little Ravens Sashy Brown. He came out he

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Speaker 1: has some things to say plex about the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: their reputation, and here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 5: I want to think it's a slow news cycle.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to at all.

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Speaker 6: Downplay the experience that that Max had coming that we

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Speaker 4: Our locker room.

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Speaker 6: As Eric said, we were incredibly excited and just as

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Speaker 6: equally if not more.

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Speaker 5: Disappointed that we weren't able to pull off that transaction and.

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Speaker 3: Bring Max to Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to go too much deeper into that.

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Speaker 6: To answer your specific question. We've got strong and long

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Speaker 5: We have emphasized the importance of doing things the right way.

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Speaker 6: A headline store because of its profile and significance. We believe,

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Speaker 5: People understand who we are and what we're about.

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Speaker 4: A lock of them understands that as well.

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Speaker 5: But when you have high profile transactions like this and

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Speaker 1: To me, it spells micro fractures. It says microfractures all

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Speaker 1: It's gonna say microfractures. And if you understand microfractures in

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Speaker 1: But when you're talking about getting a knee cleaned up

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Speaker 1: If you're looking at a knee that was repaired, the

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Speaker 1: he can't play. It turned into a oh, they're they're tanking. Ah,

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Speaker 1: they don't want to use their best player. They only

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Speaker 1: When you have micro fractures, that means that your your

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Speaker 3: That's my take on it. Plex.

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Speaker 1: I think is microfractures because I can't pull anything else

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Speaker 7: You know what they say, they failed the physical I

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Speaker 7: don't know how much I believe the the what is

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Speaker 7: physical side of Max Crosby after this and get to

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Speaker 7: more of the reputation side of the Baltimore Ravens. I

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Speaker 7: don't know about you, but I know that when when

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Speaker 7: York Giants. I'm listening to Max Crosby, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: take your side on this one. Because if you show

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Speaker 7: up to a facility and you get out of the car, van,

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Speaker 4: Something's wrong.

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Speaker 7: You You walk into the building for five hours and

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Speaker 7: you don't see Sacer, you don't see anybody on your

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Speaker 3: You gotta get the hell up out of there. You

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Speaker 1: There, absolutely first.

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Speaker 7: When I went to the Giants, Tom Cofflin standing outside, earlier, Corsi, Mster, Merrill,

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Speaker 7: Danny and Thomason, Mike Tannebaum, uh Rex, everybody's outside to greet.

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Speaker 1: It's proper a new guy, especially approving guy.

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Speaker 7: When you're bringing in one of the top five defensive players.

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Speaker 1: He's a franchise guy position. You don't have a no

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Speaker 7: I mean that just as and nobody's there to greet him.

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Speaker 7: I've never heard or seen anything like that. Yeah, that

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Speaker 7: They're saying that he failed the physical. So now he's

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Speaker 7: it's going to be the tell all of what the

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Speaker 4: Play off sixteen games.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know how team doctors from one organization

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Speaker 7: can't pass the physical, we can't sign to a contract,

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Speaker 7: but he can go back to the Las Vegas Raiders, walk.

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Speaker 7: That's what I don't understand about these teams doctors in

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Speaker 7: different organizations just say it was a better deal for

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Speaker 7: you for us to take Trey Henderson than Max Crosby.

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Speaker 7: Just come out and say that, because when he goes

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Speaker 7: to be looking at the Baltimore Ravens like, what are.

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Speaker 4: You talking about this guy? This guy is the same

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna say. With micro fractures, you can play,

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Speaker 1: you can play and you can play well. Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: is wired in a way where he can get out

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Speaker 1: there and he can play and he can be effective

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Speaker 1: and be Max Crosby. And the only person that's going

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Speaker 1: to know how much pain he's in is him and

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Speaker 1: maybe the person that his loved ones. They may be

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Speaker 1: the only ones that know the level of pain that

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Speaker 1: that man is in. The reason why I think it's,

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Speaker 1: first of all, anybody can get failed for any any

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Speaker 1: the time you get to.

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Speaker 3: This point in his career.

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Speaker 1: There's anything that you can find that you could use

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Speaker 1: I remember when I came to the Giants and I

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Speaker 1: is the city where I'm from. We ain't talking about

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's your take on the number change, because

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just going back to his number.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I get it. I understand he came out

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 7: I understand. Everybody wants to be their own man. And

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Speaker 7: you know, new money for New Jersey sales. That's all

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Speaker 7: I can say. Oh that one you put one number

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Speaker 1: That definitely will be a top selling art doubt item.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's what that says to me. To

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Speaker 1: But in that same vein you hear Jimmy Haslom come

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Speaker 3: What's your take on this?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: You got your door changing his number back to the

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Speaker 1: You got Deshaun Watson over here, he's finally gonna come back,

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Speaker 7: Okay, what you got you saying that your door saying

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Speaker 7: it's saying that he's insinuating that he is going to

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Speaker 7: Okay, First of all, Jimmy has Some didn't want Eric

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Speaker 3: Changing his number to two, not the twelve he was

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's going right to two, which is so his

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Speaker 7: So Andrew Berry comes out and says that the quarterback

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Speaker 3: You know what, I call that a bunch of a

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Speaker 7: You're not going to be paying this man forty six

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Speaker 7: million dollars in water saying this is going to be

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Speaker 7: him so maybe Todd Monky can come in and get

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Speaker 7: this is this last stroll. I really believe that you

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Speaker 7: as of as of yet, that you draft your door

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Speaker 7: if you're Andrew Berry in the Cleveland Browns, then Andrew

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Speaker 7: Berry is going to be fired as the general manager

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Speaker 7: for the Cleveland Browns, mark my word. But from a

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Speaker 7: quarterback standpoint, the competition, the quarterback competition, this one is

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Speaker 7: going to be based off of forty six million dollars.

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Speaker 7: And we know whose salary that is, and that is

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Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson. Nobody's even even talking about Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: Not even talking about him.

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Speaker 4: They're not even talking about Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 7: Now, Jimmy hasm has already co signed Deshaun Watson, and

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Speaker 7: that who is that who Todd Mounkin and Andrew Berry

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Speaker 7: are going to go with, and Deshaun Watson is going

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Speaker 7: to be the opening day starting quarterback for the.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland It makes sense for it to happen that way.

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Speaker 1: It really does make sense.

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Speaker 3: And all the reasoning, you're not going against the owner,

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Speaker 3: you're not.

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Speaker 1: But but with that being said, the upside of Shador

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Speaker 1: Sanders in this case, I think even offsets what you

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Speaker 1: just said. I think the potential of what Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: could be for this Cleveland Browns fraendranchise offsets the idea

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Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson having to start. He has so much

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Speaker 1: fan fear, he has so much backing, and and he's

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Speaker 1: pretty dagone good. He's a good ballplayer. I really believe

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Speaker 1: that we have no idea what we're going to see

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Speaker 1: from Deshaun Watson. When's the last time we seen him play,

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Speaker 1: Like twenty seventeen, something like that.

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Speaker 4: It's a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long it's been a while, he's been hurt.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's been too long to assume or think

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Speaker 1: that this man is going to come back and light

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Speaker 1: the world on fire.

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Speaker 7: I did, I didn't say he's going to light prob

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Speaker 7: just believe that he's the best quarterback on the roster

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Speaker 7: at this time.

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Speaker 4: Might be.

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Speaker 1: But the problem you're facing is is if he comes

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Speaker 1: back and you gotta assume there's going to be rusted

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Speaker 1: from how long he's been off.

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Speaker 3: If he comes back and he's not.

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Speaker 1: Good, and he's not good immediately, the level of judgment

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Speaker 1: is going to be so high he does not have

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Speaker 1: a fair opportunity to ease his way back in.

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Speaker 3: He does not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but the what if is a big what if.

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Speaker 1: I think the what if he is I am, I am,

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Speaker 1: But but my what if is based off of I have.

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Speaker 3: I'm going what if?

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Speaker 1: You? And you know why, because his what if has

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Speaker 1: been on the bench, he has not even playing. What

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Speaker 1: if is based off of him being hurt. My what

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Speaker 1: if is based off of him not playing. My what

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Speaker 1: if is what has he done to produce for this

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns team since he's been there. It's not been

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Speaker 1: a whole lot. So my what if is more rooted

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Speaker 1: in what he hasn't done versus what he has done.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a safer when you have a guy

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Speaker 1: like Shador Sanders who has captured the audience's imaginations. It's

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Speaker 1: he's a fan and a crowd favorite. They don't care

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Speaker 1: about that. They do, you know, they don't, not as

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Speaker 1: much as they do the money. But they do care

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 7: They do care about the objective for the For Todd

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Speaker 7: Muntkin and Andrew Berrys win football wins.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to start to door sat.

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Speaker 1: As if he might not be a better option to

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Speaker 1: win games than Deshaun Watson is today.

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson in Houston, I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm all the way with you.

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Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson the benefit of the doubt that he's the

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Speaker 7: better quarterback than than Shad Door Sanders when he's one

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Speaker 7: hundred percent healthy. I'm gonna give him the benefit of

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Speaker 7: the doubt today, when he's healthy today, when he's healthy,

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Speaker 7: so healthy today, Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't it is the starter.

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Speaker 3: We're in twenty twenty, We're in twenty we're hitting into

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six seeds. I know what year it is.

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Speaker 1: The last time he was good was in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: The last time he made the Pro Bowl was in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I'm just saying that's considered to be a

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Speaker 1: volatile asset that they're in possession of right now.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If that's a stock that you want me to bet

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Speaker 1: on and put my money on it, let it ridet

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Speaker 1: And I got Shador Sanders and I had Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 1: which I have not had the opportunity to really see

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Speaker 1: what my third round drive pick really brings to the

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Speaker 1: table because of the pressure that Shador Sanders being drafted

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Speaker 1: placed on his position, whatever it is. The given circumstances

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Speaker 1: are what they are, but Shador Sanders is to me,

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders is the one until he's not.

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Speaker 4: I just can't see the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 7: Having Deshaun Watson on the sideline if the if the

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Speaker 7: quarterback competition is close and this man is making forty six,

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Speaker 7: no I.

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Speaker 3: Agree, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I disagree with if the competition is close,

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Speaker 1: but even if like so, okay, so we're still doing

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Speaker 1: what is because I mean, obviously that's what you gotta do.

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00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: And then you could say you were right or you

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00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: could say, man, I was wrong. If the quarterback challenge.

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Speaker 1: Competition is close, and Deshaun Watson were to win the job,

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Speaker 1: it's still not a solidified role.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing here.

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Speaker 1: There's never gonna be any and for what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be any comfort for either

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Speaker 1: one of them or any of the three of them.

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Speaker 1: There will never be comfort as long as Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: is there, unless he gets hurt.

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Speaker 3: Unless he gets.

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Speaker 1: Hurt, and then still I think Shador is confident in

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00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: the Dylan Gabriel challenge. If I'm Shador, I'm confident in

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00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: that one. I'm not all the way confident if it's DeShawn,

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Speaker 1: because one, he has proven he can play, and two,

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Speaker 1: the amount of money connected to him is going to talk.

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Speaker 3: Money is going to talk. I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think there's any comfort to Deshaun Watson

555
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: if he were to win the starting job. That you

556
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: have the job, show us you can win for us.

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00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Let's get through this season, Let's have a good season.

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00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: That's not how it's gonna work.

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Speaker 4: It's not how it's gonna work.

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Speaker 7: I can't wait to hear what's coming out of Cleveland

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Speaker 7: Mandatory Minicamp on the first day of mandatory minicamp and

562
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Speaker 7: the offense takes the field.

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Speaker 4: And Deshaun Watson's going to be first quarterback on the center.

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson is going to be one. He has to

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Speaker 3: be one again for.

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Speaker 4: All the things that you're saying, you're not saying.

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Speaker 1: That, all the things you've highlighted day one, coming into

568
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: too mini camp, Deshaun Watson most likely has to be

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Speaker 1: the number one. But I don't think because of the money.

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00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: But I don't.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that it stays that way, and

572
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't know for how long it stays that way.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the money is going to protect him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the money makes it a safe situation

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson to just transition back into being the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: I do the head coach, new head coach.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think that those things play in favor

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Speaker 1: to me, to Shador Sanders, because he's more current, he's

580
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Speaker 1: got more game experience than Deshaun Watson does.

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Speaker 4: Right now, the new offense at the same exact time.

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Speaker 1: It'd be like bringing against out. It'd be like bringing

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Speaker 1: a guy it It'd be no different than him keeping

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Speaker 1: competing against Tom to get a starting job. It'd be

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Speaker 1: like bringing a guy out of retirement to come in

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Speaker 1: and play to try to win the starting job off

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00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: of a guy that's currently been playing. That's how long

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has not been a factor in playing for

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland brown It'd be like bringing a guy out

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Speaker 1: of retirement. I don't I do not know what we're

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Speaker 1: going to see when he comes back to play. I

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Speaker 1: do not know what we're going to see. And to me,

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Cleveland Browns, you had better take that

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Speaker 1: into serious consideration. Millions of dollars guaranteed or not. They

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Speaker 1: already listen, they already took their dive on it. They

596
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: took their walk on it. They said last year, they said,

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00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: last year, this was a bus we didn't it didn't

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Speaker 1: work out. They already they've already written him off. He's

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00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: already that Shawn Watson has already been written off.

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Speaker 7: They have to get some type of ROI from Deshaun

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Speaker 7: Watts possibly potentially, but I don't think.

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Speaker 1: But they've already they already did their tax right off.

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Speaker 1: When they said it didn't work out, they moved on.

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00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: They drive the two quarterbacks. I'm just saying, if it,

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Speaker 1: if it were not the workout before he even gets

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Speaker 1: to the season, I don't think they have any problem

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Speaker 1: with the idea of Deshaun Watson not proving out for

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Speaker 1: this last year of his contract because he hasn't proved

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Speaker 1: out for any of the years of his contract.

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Speaker 3: Yes, least less resort effort to try to do it.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, does it really happen in reality?

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Speaker 3: I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: If I'm betting, if we're betting on this, and and

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Speaker 1: and we're going to the polls or we're going to Okay,

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Speaker 1: the owner does, I mean.

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Speaker 7: He's very excited he is for Deshaun Watson and his

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Speaker 7: fresh to compete, to compete quarterback for the Cleveland Brown

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Speaker 7: ain't gonna pan out?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what he's going to have. They was

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Speaker 1: excited enough to give him that guarantee contract. How that

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Speaker 1: work out?

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Speaker 3: What year was that?

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Speaker 1: always pop up at the top of your screen and

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Speaker 1: well professional wrestling fans get in there on the action.

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Speaker 1: It continues every week TNA Thursday Night Impact every week.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss the adrenaline, the drama, and the total NonStop

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Speaker 1: action as you watch your favorite TNA wrestling stars. Times

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Speaker 1: and more information visit TNA wrestling dot com. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: wrestling drama, always some drama. It'd be a lot of

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Speaker 1: drama connected to this dude lately. Man, here's what happened.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know what.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let him tell you.

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Speaker 1: Just take a listen to this, y'all tell me who

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Speaker 1: y'all think this is and what he's talking about.

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Speaker 10: Take a listen, Wendy, I beg your indulgence for a

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Speaker 10: second before I answer this question.

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Speaker 4: Both you and Shay.

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Speaker 10: You know, I woke up this morning and I had

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Speaker 10: no idea. Actually I shouldn't. I mean, I woke up,

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Speaker 10: but that I took the red eye back here, you know.

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Speaker 10: So I get and I'm in the car service coming home,

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Speaker 10: and I'm sitting there going like I'm seeing some report

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Speaker 10: circulating that somehow someway it's breaking news, wdy that I've

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Speaker 10: been unfollowed, unfollowed by Derek White. I mean, stop the presses.

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Speaker 10: I just want to make sure that I'm clear about this, Okay.

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Speaker 10: I don't care whether an NBA player is following me

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Speaker 10: or not.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 10: You know how they feel in regards of what I

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Speaker 10: care about is whether or not I'm fair?

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Speaker 4: Am I?

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Speaker 3: Am I crazy? Or is this dude?

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Speaker 1: He says a lot about what he doesn't care about,

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Speaker 1: but takes the time to talk about a lot of

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Speaker 1: the things that he doesn't care about. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: just said he doesn't care about Jason Whitlock. He called

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Speaker 1: him a roach under his shoes, like he'd start running him,

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Speaker 1: calling him all kinds. Is not his name, but he

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Speaker 1: said he don't care. Now you know, Derek White unfollowed him.

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Speaker 1: He makes it a point to address it is is

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Speaker 1: stephen A. Is stephen A the sports headline now versus

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Speaker 1: stephen A reporting on the headlines and giving his opinions

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Speaker 1: on the headlines like is he becoming the the headline, Well,

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Speaker 1: what's this all about?

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Speaker 3: Plaques?

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Speaker 7: I think he's bringing it to the public because it

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Speaker 7: was a headline. He didn't like the fact that, Trust me,

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Speaker 7: I know Steven that I know him very well. Okay,

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Speaker 7: you know he doesn't actually have what you will call

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Speaker 7: armadillo skin. He has rabbitty.

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Speaker 1: He comes across as a very sensitive thug that needs

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Speaker 1: a hug. It's as smoothie with you know.

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Speaker 4: He has rabbit. He's a little you know, he's a softie.

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Speaker 7: But I don't know why you would bring it to

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Speaker 7: us saying that you don't care about Derek White on

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Speaker 7: following you, we don't care either, he don't care. Why

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Speaker 7: do you have to put an on national television to

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Speaker 7: tell everybody that you don't care.

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Speaker 1: That's like, it's like you say you know him, It's

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Speaker 1: like this is turning into the Stephen A. Smith show,

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Speaker 1: bro And it's not about stephen A talking sports. It's

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Speaker 1: about Steven A talking Steven A and and everybody else

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Speaker 1: talking about It's just I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I've never really I've never.

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Speaker 1: Had no I have no beef with Stephen An' I

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Speaker 1: don't have any I have nothing against the man, but

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Speaker 1: I do I do find it strange that it seems

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Speaker 1: as though his clout chase these days might be a

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Speaker 1: little bit higher than than in years past. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like it's just interesting to see the Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton stuff come up. Obviously, you know, I know Whitlock.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the disc disclamor I know wit But

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Speaker 1: and then you know, Ryan gets involved, Clark gets involved,

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Speaker 1: Marcella's Wiley gets involved. It's like stephen A has become

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Speaker 1: the main topic to people in sports media.

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Speaker 3: Strange.

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Speaker 4: Stephen is going to have the last word.

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Speaker 7: If there's anything directed toward him, he is going to

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Speaker 7: address it, and he's going to have He's going to

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Speaker 7: have the last say.

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Speaker 3: Well, you had the last say, and we got three