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Speaker 2: Renee.

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Speaker 3: Today on the show, we have somebody who is another

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Speaker 4: Jason Biggs. Yeah, Jason's in studio.

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Speaker 3: Jason the New Yorker now joins us to talk tennis

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Biggs. First of all, he loves tennis. He's

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Speaker 3: What I like so much about our talk is not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe it or not, he has played

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Speaker 2: And you'll find out when that happened and why.

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Speaker 4: Let's jump in the middle.

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Speaker 3: Renee has a an overarching theory of life, of the

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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, by playing by me playing tennis

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Speaker 1: Yes, but just remind me, though, Stubs, does that apply

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Speaker 1: And we never so we were never on the scene.

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Speaker 2: So we all have it. With Jason, it's fun because

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Speaker 2: It's just it's not easy for them to play in

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Speaker 4: The way, there's no word to hide on a tennis.

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Speaker 2: It was the hardest day in New York we've had

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Speaker 2: You're saying, Kitlin, is that you get a chance to

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Speaker 4: So you didn't have to even pick up even get

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Speaker 4: I'm seeding with jealousy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so why don't you talk about that moment and

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Speaker 1: I've actually played twice, wow, twice Center.

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Speaker 1: Well, once was the US Open semifinals in ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: Before you had kids, yeah, exactly, be like like fuck

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Speaker 4: So we just guaranteed ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Become easier.

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00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: A little bit the other The only other thing I

438
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: remember from that, Okay, two more things I remember. The

439
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: second thing was James and Martin. Since I could, yes,

440
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: I took a therapist about it. I have PTSD over this.

441
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: So James and Martina ended up at NET and they

442
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: did this amazing thing where they were just boom boom

443
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom, back and forth.

444
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: You guys are just sitting there like chumps.

445
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called bolleying? Yeah, we were just

446
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: sitting in the back like chumps. But of course, like

447
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think Shannon was like ready, She was

448
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: like ready with it, yeah yeah, yeah, spinning your racket

449
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: like waiting for it to come back down the baseline,

450
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there. I like threw my racket

451
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: down and I'm just like watching having fun. But they

452
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 1: had it was great. I mean they went back. It

453
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: was maybe like five minutes bollying. You'll keep doing that, yeah, yeah, yeah,

454
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

455
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: Let me make a joke.

456
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome. And then the third and only

457
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: other thing I remember, and this is kind of okay

458
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: for me maybe, is that, uh I think I found

459
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: myself at NET and Blake went to nail a shot

460
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: past me on the baseline, and all I did was

461
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: were right at me. It was actually right at me me.

462
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 2: Close your eyes.

463
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: I totally closed my eyes, threw my racket up in

464
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: front of my face to protect myself. It hit the

465
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: racket and it went down, and I don't know if

466
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: it won the point, but but the fact that I

467
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: returned it everyone like because it was literally just the

468
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: kids and it was just like and it like hit

469
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: like and the crowd went kind of crazy. You had

470
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: the kids, so I won them back. I won the back.

471
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: Did he know you were gonna possess cat like reflexes

472
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 3: or was he body tag?

473
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: I know that's a great question that's in.

474
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: Front of children.

475
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what they do.

476
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what if I didn't get my racket

477
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: up with the hell in the eye?

478
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what happens.

479
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: Just lose an eyeball.

480
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: We know exactly where to hit it where we know

481
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: if you do miss it, you're not going to lose

482
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: a testicle or an eye.

483
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but you.

484
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: It could reflect onto you and hurt you a little bit.

485
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 2: But most of the time we do it to an

486
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: area that we know that it's possible for you to

487
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 2: put your rack up.

488
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: Basically, these celebs.

489
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: Not at your nose, for example. Okay, I'm sure it

490
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 2: was just a little bit to the left of your ear.

491
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 4: That's how good?

492
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably right. But what's amazing to me is

493
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: this idea that literally the ams and the celebs that

494
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: you guys play with are just they just have targets

495
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: on them, Like for you, you're just like I could

496
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: drop it here, I could drop it here here, that

497
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.

498
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: That's called ten thousand hours of practice as a sad

499
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: child out there on the court.

500
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Speaker 3: This is the same thing she told me when we

501
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 3: were practicing and she said, I'm going to help you

502
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 3: hit her backhand down the line, and then one of

503
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: them she moved out of the way like I wouldn't notice.

504
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 3: She was like, oh, great job, you hit a great

505
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: passing chat and I was like, no, no, no, I saw

506
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: you literally like move out of the way.

507
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, well, at least stand there and had.

508
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: A couple of opportunities to hit. Those opportunities hit winners

509
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: past me, and it didn't happen. One or two he made. Yeah,

510
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: it was good. Sad we didn't get to play yesterday

511
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: because it rained in New York. So I think there

512
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: was part of him secretly that was happy about it,

513
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: because he was like it wasn't quite physically prepared to play.

514
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: But now we're going to play apparently on Friday.

515
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, and I think we should make

516
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: a solemn pledge, which is the point.

517
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: Of the show. He's every week playing.

518
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: With Well, as you noted, she can't help but coach,

519
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: which is to our mutual benefit.

520
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, of course.

521
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: Then I think you could do us all a favor

522
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 3: by teaching her how to act just a little bit

523
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: more so when she's diving out of the way to

524
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: make me it seems real.

525
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: It just seems like I earned it.

526
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: That's a great idea.

527
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: Why not a little exchange.

528
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: We'll bring this up because marytown and Bound, who's a

529
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: friend of both of ours, is the producer of Oranges

530
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: and the New Black, which, of course you were on

531
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: for how many seasons? Because well, according to Neary today

532
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: that said he didn't she didn't really have some fun

533
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: stories about you, which was really sad. But you're because

534
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: you're on the show for one season five years ago,

535
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: and you then returned the volley to say what because

536
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: now he may hear this.

537
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: Neary has been a lead producer on the show for

538
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: all the years that it's been on, and she thinks

539
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: I've been on for one season many years ago. I

540
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: was on for two seasons, the first to the whole seat,

541
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 1: the whole first two seasons.

542
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: Basically when it became you know the show that it

543
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: is today, thanks to you, because you're on it for

544
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: how many seasons?

545
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: Two? NEARI two seasons.

546
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 2: And the reason I bring up Nary's name is because

547
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: she is an There is not many bigger tennis fans

548
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: than the producer of Orange is a new plagu which

549
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: is Nary ten about and her best friend is married

550
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: to Paul Annacon.

551
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so there's a lot.

552
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: Of former coach of Router Frederer. Well, let's use this opportunity.

553
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 3: If she's listening to ask Neery, where's the Litchfield subplot

554
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: about the tennis to tennis team? Because there is there's

555
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: a there's a folesome State tennis team.

556
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: Huh?

557
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 4: Could there be a Litchfield tennis That's interesting.

558
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: I like to ask her a different question though, if

559
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: I may first, which is why don't you love me

560
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: or remember me? No? No, no.

561
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: At the end of the text, she said.

562
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: That she loves you, well, not enough to remember that

563
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: I was on her show two years Nary actually she said,

564
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: but he's a love No, that's very sweet.

565
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: Well let's just put it out there in the ether.

566
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: Larry Bloom comes back coaches the Litchfield tennis team. It's

567
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: a way to get his character right back in the

568
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: they're slocking.

569
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: That's a great call. I mean, that's a great call.

570
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: This is why I run a magazine, because we just

571
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: come up with on the fly.

572
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of Racket magazine, this is a Racket podcast. It

573
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 2: is you actually like Recot magg You get it.

574
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't just a favor no celebrity.

575
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: No, no, I saw no. In fact, it's I would

576
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: never be doing this for Renee. I'm doing this because

577
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: of the magazine for you. Yes, for the t shirt

578
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: and the canvas back available. I believe it's it's a tote.

579
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: Is it a tote? It was a tote. I was

580
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: in my favorite magazine store in the West Village. I

581
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: was like, Racket. That's interesting because you know they have

582
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: all these cool you know, there's so many cool magazines

583
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: these days that kind of cover all different things, and

584
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: obviously they're getting more niche and getting more sort of specific,

585
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: but this clearly looked like a magazine that was even

586
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: just from the cover. It was a cool illustration. But

587
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: I was like, this seems more like a literary mag

588
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: like a you know, something of substance, not just some

589
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: sort of interesting angles into the racket world. Right, So

590
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: some of the stories and subjects were like I was like, oh,

591
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: this is very cool. And I took that first issue

592
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: home and I read it. But I read this morning.

593
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't finish reading it on I

594
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: was like, let me take another look before I see

595
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: you guys. And I read Andrea's She's a good writer.

596
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: We're talking about of course ol fashion editor and Pekevich.

597
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: She's a great writer. I was like, this is very cool.

598
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: I love I love the idea. Did she you that idea? Yeah?

599
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 4: She pitched me like four ideas, and I was like,

600
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: yes to all of them. Let's do it.

601
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: You want to pitch an idea? Maybe. So I'll tell

602
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: you my tennis my history. My history with tennis is

603
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: when I was thirteen or twelve. When I was twelve,

604
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: I was doing a play on Broadway No Big Deal,

605
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: NBD called Conversations with my father with jud Hirsh. Remember

606
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: jud Hirsh. You know jud Hursh. He's still around great

607
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: actor and a great guy, and he had still has

608
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: this crazy spread up in the Catskills and every Sunday

609
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: night after our show we had off on Mondays in theater,

610
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: and they he would drive up to his place in

611
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: the Catskills and spend Monday there and then come back

612
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon. And it was me and another kid that

613
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: were in this show with the rest were all adults,

614
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: and jud was very sweet and would take people up

615
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: to his house, and the cat kind of you know,

616
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: extended the offer to everyone, and people went up different weekends,

617
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: and one weekend he invited me to go up with

618
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: him and his then wife, and I was like, yeah,

619
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: that that'd be awesome. And we went up there and

620
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: we kind of like we hiked and we watched movies

621
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: and just kind of it was the It was really cool.

622
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean I grew up in like, like you said,

623
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: in Bergen County, but like right over the bridge and

624
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 1: we're through its own right there, like very dense New

625
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: York suburbs, not like rural or yeah yeah, no, this

626
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: was like whoa. And his estate was massive, and he

627
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: had a tennis court and he's like, do you want

628
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: to play tennis? I was like, I love, I've always

629
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: wanted to try tennis, absolutely cool, right on, and like,

630
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: so he took me to his tennis court on his

631
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: property and we played tennis for an afternoon and I

632
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: fucking loved it. And so that year later that year,

633
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: for my birthday, he got me my first tennis racket.

634
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: Cool.

635
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: And then when I the following year in when I

636
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: started high school, I was trying to figure out what

637
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: sports to play. And the problem at this point when

638
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: it came to my involvement in sports was I was

639
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: because of my acting. I really, like, you know, like

640
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: big time acting. I couldn't commit. So so when I

641
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: was like little little, you know, like in grade school,

642
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: I played football and I wrestled, and it just look

643
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: at me, you see you see but you see football player,

644
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: you see wrestler. Yeah. I mean it's the sort of

645
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: thing I couldn't miss a practice and then expect it

646
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: was to It was.

647
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Just like guys, I was on Broadway.

648
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: Give me b yeah, seriously, guys, the football guy would

649
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, hey, yeah, me too, Hey Broadway,

650
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: get over here, we're doing some linebacker drills. I would

651
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: I lived across the street from this, you know, VFW

652
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: Veterans of Form, and there was a big Veterans of

653
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: Foreign Wars building in a parking lot that was basically

654
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: our playground growth. It was our backyard growing up. So

655
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: they played their stickball totally and we played football and

656
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: like stickball and everything on this parking lot. And it

657
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: had one of the walls. Most of the walls had windows,

658
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: but one wall was a big just empty wall no windows,

659
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: And so I would play tennis like against the wall, right,

660
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: that was yeah, that was my that was my tennis.

661
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: Anyway, what kind of racket do you remember?

662
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: I do? It was real. It was a pro Kennis.

663
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: Kind of off brand for the nineties.

664
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So when so I started freshman year and

665
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, we had our high school had

666
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: a tennis team, and we actually had a couple of

667
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: courts behind the high school. And I was like, I

668
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: wonder if I could play some tennis like but I

669
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: wonder if they were it was a spring sport, and

670
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if they are a little

671
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: bit more, if the coach would be a little more understanding,

672
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: like like I wonder how the schedule is basically, like

673
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: what is the schedule like for tennis. Is it practice

674
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: every day and then obviously if it's raining, were not playing, Like,

675
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: what is this sort of And so I went and

676
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: talked to the coach and he was like, you know,

677
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: we have matches like once or twice a week after school,

678
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: and we try to practice every other day, and but

679
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, look we've if.

680
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: We'll accommentate you.

681
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: Well he was. He was just this coach in particular

682
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: who I loved, super great guy who was also obviously

683
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: a teacher in the school, and he was just a

684
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: great dude. And he was like, look you can. I mean,

685
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: hopefully you're not missing matches and we're gonna have to

686
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: replace you, and your playing time is going to depend

687
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: on how often you're here and contributing and practicing. But

688
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: if you want to give it a shot, I'll try

689
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: to be as accommodating as I can. Sort of. Thing's

690
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: not a lot of people were signing up for tennis

691
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: right like. It was definitely not. It wasn't like the

692
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: sport in our school where I grew up. It was

693
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: all about football and wrestling and you know, basketball and

694
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: I guess base For the spring it was baseball and

695
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: track and tennis was sort of the whatever it got like,

696
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: it was kind of the app It really was, though,

697
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: but there were like one or two players who were like,

698
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: they were really good at it, and they showed up,

699
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: and then everyone else was just kind of trying to

700
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: get a sport for their college application, like literally literally,

701
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: which is great for you, right, Which was good for

702
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: me because as long as I showed some skill, I

703
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: probably would end up playing, right, And I did, And

704
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: so I joined the team and I played, and I played,

705
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: and I loved it, and.

706
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: It was your high school mascot, like just so I

707
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: can like the Aviators.

708
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: I've never heard that.

709
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Yes, because we the town is right next to Tearborough Airport,

710
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: literally right next to Teoborough across the street.

711
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: And so it was almost the same as playing Flushing Meadow,

712
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: I mean really yeah.

713
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: Well, and and we were under the flight path of

714
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: Nork as well, Nork Airport, so it literally was like

715
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: like the LaGuardia of planes taken off. So literally basically

716
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: my high school tennis courts were Arthur Ashe Stadium and

717
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: the right. Yes, the U said you for that moment

718
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: totally totally, and then you just you.

719
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: Know, sadly gave it up because you became a you know, yeah,

720
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: you know, you know time.

721
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: Super stuff by fucker. Yeah exactly.

722
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: We weren't going to bring it up.

723
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Well I saw it in your eyes. Yeah, so yeah.

724
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: So I played and then like my high school in

725
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: terms of acting, like high school was kind of ebbed

726
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: and flowed and like it kind of just worked out.

727
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: Like most of the times I was busy was like

728
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: in the fall or the summer, and like I was

729
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: able to show up for tennis and I actually like

730
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: played all four years and senior year I was first

731
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: doubles with one of my best friends. So one of

732
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: my best friends ended up joining and he's like six '

733
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: three and so we had a good thing going. He

734
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: would play net as much as possible and I was, yes,

735
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: and uh we we had a good thing going. And

736
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: I think we made we made All League and I

737
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: think all this all counties, Yeah, do we make all

738
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: I think we were like maybe first team All League

739
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: and like third team or honorable mention or something.

740
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: All counting accolades piled up, guess piled up.

741
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: They piled up the accolade.

742
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: Do you get the sports?

743
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that I got any award, but but.

744
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: It's aok a question. Were you a hothead? Were you

745
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: the same sort of joke cracking?

746
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: Got?

747
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 4: Like, what was your teenage.

748
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: Pers That's a great question.

749
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: I'll buy you some time because in high school I

750
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: played high school tennis, which was very you know, for

751
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: anybody who doesn't know, is very separate from the junior league.

752
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: So the junior leagues are like parents are getting into

753
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: fist fights and your kid is like this, and my

754
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: kid is ranked that, whereas the high school tennis scene

755
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: is actually really nice and kind of relaxed totally and

756
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: it's not that thing. It's not a feeder for college,

757
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 3: and as such, you get this sort of camaraderie.

758
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 4: My favorite memories.

759
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: Were, you know, winning state and like smoking cigarettes on

760
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: the van right, you know, like that kind of stuff.

761
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 2: No wonder the am was still there.

762
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: I think cigarettes were probably pretty low on my list

763
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 3: of why I didn't become a stellar Renee Stubs level professional, on.

764
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: The list on the lists I actually showed up. So

765
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: my my thing, I I was smoking cigarettes. But one day,

766
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. One day after school before practice started,

767
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, we would go across the street to like

768
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: the deli and we'd get like a snack or you know,

769
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: water we'd bring after. I don't think we even had

770
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: like a water jug at our time. I mean that's

771
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: how like low rent it was. So we'd go and

772
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: get our drinks and stuff. And one day I went

773
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: and I was like craving chocolate milk. I went and

774
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: got like this giant thing of you who as my

775
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: like drink for when I was like thirsty and like

776
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: in between like sets, between games, and my coach is like,

777
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: did you just really buy you hoot? And I was like,

778
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: It's fine, I could. I'm not gonna what am I

779
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: gonna get sick? I got sick.

780
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 4: I got yes, I got woot it on the court.

781
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: I got sick.

782
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: I got sick on the court.

783
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, So anyway, but I loved it. It was

784
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: so much fun. I ended up playing with my buddy.

785
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: And yeah, and you didn't get a college scholarship. No

786
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: college scholarship. I don't think anyone from Hasburg Heights High

787
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: School got a college scholarship to play well, any sport probably,

788
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: but especially tennis.

789
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: Okay, final question for you, what your favorite players?

790
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: I want to layer onto that.

791
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: Sure, favorite players, but more impartably, like why do you relate.

792
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: Do you see yourself out there and anybody? What do

793
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: you what are you looking for when you look at

794
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 3: the professional tournaments.

795
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: So I've had different players that I've loved over the years.

796
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Back in the day when I was like first getting

797
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: into tennis, I loved Agasy, loved love, love, loved everything

798
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: about him, and especially when it when the Agassy Sampress years.

799
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: I liked Sampress as well, like I loved watching him,

800
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: but I was always the Agassy guy sidebar. One day

801
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: at Teterborough Airport during the US Open, I was because

802
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: I live right there. Literally, I drove by and I

803
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: saw the Agasy plane, the Agasy plane with the tennis

804
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: ball in the flames on the tail and he did.

805
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: At the time, I never knew that, And I was like, whoa,

806
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: that is the coolest thing I've ever seen, Like my

807
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: two favorite things together, tennis and airplanes. And I was

808
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: like and Agasy Andre and I was like, oh my god,

809
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: he has his own plane, the coolest thing and it's

810
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: tennis fall on five with flames coming out of I

811
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: was like, that's the coolest thing I've ever fucking seen.

812
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: So I love the Agasy and but this is interesting

813
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: and I root for him every journey, so I when

814
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: I when I did the last with Rain. Oh, so

815
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: we didn't finish tell Meser. So that was the first

816
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: time I played center court was for the kids thing,

817
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: and then I went back again a couple of years

818
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: later and I played with Chrissy and who else was

819
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: it Martina again? I think it was Martina again, yes,

820
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: and Rain Wilson. I remember going into that night having

821
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: had my previous experience during the kids night, where like

822
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: I am myself with a triple serve and like all

823
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: this stuff and this was not but hold on, and

824
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: this was at night now, and I was like super

825
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: nervous because I'm like, oh my god, I really have

826
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: to now I have to make up for the last time.

827
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: But then we get there and they give us these outfits.

828
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: They give Rain and I not Chrissy and Martina, Rain Wilson,

829
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: this is and myself. They give us these crazy old

830
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: school like Macenroe, bjorn Borg headbands, short shorts, high socks,

831
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: the whole thing, which made me relieve because immediately sets

832
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: the tone of oh, we're just joking around. So it

833
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: took the pressure off of having to But I think

834
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: again I had the worst serve because I'll never forget

835
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: because then when I went down to Chrissy's tournament. So

836
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: at her tournament, chrisy You made some comments like oh,

837
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: I see you finally started working on your serve and

838
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I like that. She kept yeah seriously,

839
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: she didn't want to embarrass me in front of twenty

840
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: thousand people. After that event, I went to you, I

841
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: was like, can I use this show? I would think

842
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: I had like something else to go do on a

843
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: like can I shower? And the guy was yeah. And

844
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: the guy was like sure, you could use the men's

845
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: locker room and I was like, oh okay, And there

846
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: was about oh so it was bright before or after him.

847
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: It was between real matches. So I went into the

848
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: locker room and there were players, no one that I

849
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 1: had recognized. It was like early rounds. But coming out

850
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: of the shower, as I was like going in and

851
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: I was like shirtless and grossly out of shape. Was

852
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: looked like we was Stan Wavrinca and he was so nice.

853
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: He was like hey man. He came up to me

854
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: like hey man, just want to tell you you know,

855
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I was like, oh, thank you

856
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: so much. I didn't really know stant this was like his,

857
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: that was like his. It was his breakout year like

858
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: five years ago.

859
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: With the Raspberry shorts.

860
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: Yes, very short year, Yes, exactly right. So I fought

861
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: I like, I was like who, I was like, Stan,

862
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: nice to meet you, and I was like, stand, oh

863
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: stare war warrinko. Okay. And I watched him through that tournament,

864
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: and I've because I had that personal interaction with him,

865
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: of course, I'm like, I'm gonna keep him in minds

866
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: and I've watched him do so well, and I he

867
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: just seems to me like I watched him in interviews

868
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: and when he seems like an awesome dude.

869
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: Okay.

870
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: So I think we have two commitments from you. You

871
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: and I are going to enter some sort of tournament.

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00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: Together, yes, and win it and win it and win it.

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Speaker 4: The stakes are high.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to coach.

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Speaker 1: We have to have you as a coach, Ugly.

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Speaker 4: She's gonna chew us out so hard.

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Speaker 3: And then we have to have you back on when

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Speaker 3: you make your Racket magazine debut as a writer.

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Speaker 1: Done great. I'm gonna start pitching you ideas. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to come up with something.

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Speaker 2: You should write a story about growing up with the Plians,

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Speaker 2: coming over your obsession with them, Tennis, I mean it has.

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Speaker 3: To end with Teterborough Airport. And then we get a picture.

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Speaker 1: In front of Vagazy's plane. Oh, I have the plane.

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Speaker 1: I thought of me flying in Agassy's plane.

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Speaker 4: Commission of portrait.

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Speaker 1: Me as a centaur in front of Agassy's plane.

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Speaker 4: So cover I know I might be able to cover material.

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Speaker 3: Jason, thank you for coming, and we're playing.

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Speaker 2: Again. I can't wait to what you've done.

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Speaker 3: We're almost done, but before we go, listen up for

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Speaker 3: an insane fashion report from our correspondent Andrea.

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Speaker 5: Pa Welcome to fashion with Andrea Patkovic b and Vinnidos

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Speaker 5: and Olas de Majorca, Spain, where the essan always shines

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Speaker 5: and the olive oil never disappoints. Put on your best

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Speaker 5: flamenco shoes, gather around the Latin guitar player and listen carefully.

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Speaker 5: Are you and macho machisimo? Then why don't you pick

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Speaker 5: out your best pastel colored Banta alonees and pair them

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Speaker 5: with a polo shirt and the darkest shades you own.

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Speaker 5: Don't be stingy and spend your last penny on a

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Speaker 5: quality tube of hair jail and slick.

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Speaker 2: It back all the way back.

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Speaker 5: As for the ladies, pat your hand in the middle

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Speaker 5: tied into a knot and throw on your best hoop

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Speaker 5: earrings and don't forget a little charcoal eyeliner. Never hurt

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Speaker 5: nobody when it comes to wardrobe. Red is the answer

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Speaker 5: to all the questions you've ever asked yourself Off the

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Speaker 5: work when you're crying in the shower. Cherry rose, jam mary,

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Speaker 5: low crimson, ruby, blood blush, scarlet and wine. You can

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Speaker 5: do no wrong. Wanna be fashionable and practical as sombrero

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Speaker 5: corradores will round up every look, even yours. Dave no offense,

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Speaker 5: So gether your white horses, boil your sangria, and grill

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Speaker 5: your pullpo. You've arrived in Spain, where everything is possible,

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Speaker 5: but can wait until Maniana, maybe forever fashionable and forever broke.

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Speaker 5: Tempre adios, mocacos, adios, amigos, astella proxima, I am Petsko

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Speaker 5: And this was fashion.

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Speaker 3: And that's it for this episode of the Racket Magazine podcast.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs.

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Speaker 3: Our co host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson music

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Speaker 3: by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong. Thanks to Tim Or, Jerry,

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Speaker 3: Taylor Dalton, and the team at ACAST. Find us at

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Speaker 3: racketmag dot com, slash podcast, and subscribe to us at

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Speaker 3: any of your favorite podcatchers.