1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel. Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan keal Callahan. 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: A team of Turkish scientists analyzed three pieces of birch 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: pitch that had been chewed by ancient humans in Scandinavia 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: almost ten thousand years ago. Their findings, which they recently 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: published in scientific Reports, offer a fascinating window into the 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: mouths of these ancient humans. Birch pitch is a sticky 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: substance made by heating birch bark. It has been used 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: by people for medicinal purposes for thousands of years and 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: can be chewed like gum. As it turns out, it's 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: also a great repository for ancient DNA. The team of 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: researchers extracted DNA from these very old pieces of chewing 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: gum and discovered, as you might expect, that Mesolithic humans 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: could have used a dentist in a toothbrush. They analyzed 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: the oral microbiome profile and pathogen burden of the birch 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: pitch and found that it was similar to modern day 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: people who suffer from periodontitis. Periodontitis is a serious gum 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: infection that damages the soft tissue around teeth. Without treatment, 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: periodontitis can destroy the bone that supports your teeth and 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: lead to tooth loss. The researchers believed ancient hunter gatherers 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: likely suffered from bad oral health in part because they 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: use their teeth for gripping, cutting, and tearing, and were 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: exposed to a wide array of pathogens. The birch pitch 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: also gave researchers a window into other things these ancient 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: individuals had been doing with their mouths. They found DNA 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: sequences of red fox, hazelnut, red deer, and apple, which 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: were likely some of the things they'd been gnashing on 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: just before chewing on the pitch. I don't know how 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: they make gum these days, Frankly, I don't know. I 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: don't know. But next time you stick a piece of 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: trident or juicy fruit underneath your chair at a movie theater, 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: ask yourself, what will this say about me in ten 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: thousand years. If you're doing things right, your diet might 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: not look too different from those Scandinavian hunter gatherers, hopefully 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: without the gum disease. Of course, this week we've got 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: legislation federal and state, double buzz and so much more. 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: But first I'm gonna tell you about my week. In 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: My week was nicely balanced by this strange temperature swing 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: of going from negative thirty to fifty above and still 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: climbing well. Musky chat and I hit the ice, or 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: for you real tough sons of guns, the hard water. 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: It was a great morning, sun was shining, no wind 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: and cold. We drug sleds for a couple of miles, 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: drilling holes, looking and feeling for fish with our jigs 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: and electronics. We eventually found some fish and got a 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: hot bite going wound up with some nice sized perch 49 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: and one wall eye worth keeping. Lots of catching up 50 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: and you know, bsum, plus a little exercise towing those 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: sleds across the ice. I gotta tell you one funny 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: deal that happened to We parked next to this fellow 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: who's getting ready, had a couple of yellow labs running 54 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: around the ice and we're talking about ice fishing. Of course, 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's a nice looking dog and 56 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: let's snort out and he's like, oh, that's a nice 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: looking dog. You like bird hunt and said yeah, and 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, this is what we do for post 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: season depression. And I said, oh, yeah, the dog's like 60 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: running around out here on the ice. They seem to 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: get a kick out of it. And he goes, oh, no, 62 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: I wasn't talking about the dog. It was about talking 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: about post bird hunting depression for me, and I know 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot of you out there that feel the 65 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: same way. Just hard to get real excited about much else, 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: but we'll get there. We'll make it through anyway. After 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: trucking around the ice, headed out to Mom's place because 68 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: they had an unbelievable amount of geese out in the field, 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: which never happens. It's a tiny place, it's a great 70 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: place for like hunting traffic. Very rarely is that where 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: the geese really want to be, but right now it 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: absolutely is. And these birds just migrated in. It's wild. 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: You'd think these resident birds would have a lot more 74 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: fat on them. These birds were very skinny and very 75 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: eager to come into a very meager decoy spread. We 76 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: left Bozeman super late, got out there late, got the 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: decoys out. After kicking geese out of the field, only 78 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: put out a dozen decoys on motion stakes and man, 79 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: before I could even load the shotgun, there were geese 80 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: in the kill zone and they just kept coming. I 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: think I was fully set up by nine am and 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: picking up the decoys by nine thirty am. It was 83 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: a little too fast. The snort dog was on the 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: edge of her seat as I picked up decoys, not 85 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: fully understanding that all of her work was five retrieves. 86 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: It was heartbreaking, heartbreaking until next season a little girl. 87 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: And in between those, I've been cleaning up the freezers, 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: getting things organized in the meat department. You could say, 89 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: if you're tuning into the old cal Instagram account, you 90 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: may have seen the end result of a Korean fried 91 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: upland bird thigh recipe that I've been working on, which 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: is like good for grouse species and pheasants. Drumsticks on 93 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: a lot of birds are kind of tough to deal 94 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: with because of the amount of tendons, specifically pheasants, but 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: the thighs are absolutely fantastic, despite a lot of people 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: throwing them away. So very simple dry sherry or Chinese 97 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: cooking wine, soy sauce, ginger, salt, pepper, brown sugar, garlic 98 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: let that sit overnight, then whist together a fifty to 99 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: fifty mix of flour and corn starch with water, and 100 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 2: you're looking for the consistency like runny eggs, not quite 101 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: pancake batter. Thoroughly coat everybody deep fat fryar. I use 102 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: beef tallow and let them drain on old paper sacks 103 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: is what I do. Reduce, reuse kids. It takes about 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: five minutes per batch. It's a killer recipe. You won't 105 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: ever feel bad for throwing a bird thigh away because 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: you'll covet them from here on out. Now, word to 107 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: the listener. We're heading back into the state legislative cycle. 108 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Oddly enough, this is where I get more excited about 109 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: the week in review, because we got stuff that really 110 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: really matters on top of the entertaining things. We're going 111 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: to cover as much of this as we can, but 112 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: we are counting on you to write in and keep 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: us informed on what's going on. You can type in 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: NCSL dot org to see what states are in session 115 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: and when. That's the National Conference of State Legislatures. And 116 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: if you hear about something that really grinds your gears, 117 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: really ticks you off, what I'm going to say next 118 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: just isn't going to help whatever it is. Whatever that 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: issue is, it was probably preventable. If we all get 120 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: better at advocating consistently for the things we enjoy public land, 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: access to hunting and fishing, open spaces, habitat, and we 122 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: are proactive about it, a lot of this stuff won't 123 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: come up. So don't wait for things to go on 124 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: the chopping block before you get involved. If you are 125 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: just dipping your toe into this, join a local and 126 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: national rod and gun club today. That's a great start. 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: Then set a goal of testifying at your state legislature 128 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: this year. It's not as scary as it sounds. You 129 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: can even get up there and just say thank you, 130 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: good work on something that's positive. In the world of 131 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: hunting and fishing and outdoor rights, the sidelines are full. 132 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: We need players on the field. Moving on to the 133 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: legislative desk, a Kentucky state senator has introduced a bill 134 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: that would legalize the killing of Cooper's and redtail hawks. 135 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: More specifically, it would prohibit the Department of Fish and 136 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: Wildlife from imposing or collecting fines or penalties from anyone 137 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: who pursues or kills a hawk. Killing hawks would still 138 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: be illegal under federal law, and violators face serious fines 139 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: and even jail time. The Senator's name is Gary Boswell, 140 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: and you'd be forgiven for asking what he has against 141 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: two of America's most common native birds of prey. Boswell 142 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: explains in a Facebook post that three of his constituents 143 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: have told him about having trouble with hawks killing their 144 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: chickens and cats and preying on songbirds at their bird feeders. 145 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: Boswell claims that there is an overpopulation of hawks, and 146 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: he implies that they're contributing to declining turkey numbers. As evidence, 147 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: he posted a video from his trailcam of hawks killing 148 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: turkey polts. There's just one problem, as many of his 149 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: commenters on the post pointed out, what Boswell calls hawks 150 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 2: are actually European starlings. How that actually happened. I don't 151 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: know anyone whose own backyard chickens knows how frustrating it 152 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: is to lose a hen, especially when they're finally up 153 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: and running and producing. And it's certainly true that hawks 154 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: prey on smaller birds, but covered chicken runs can solve 155 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: the former problem, and taking down a bird feeder for 156 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: a period of time can discourage hawks from whacking too 157 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: many backyard tweety birds. Hawk populations have increased substantially over 158 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: the past twenty years or so. In a twenty seventeen report, 159 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: the Cornell Lab of Ornithology found that the presence of 160 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: Cooper's hawks have increased fourfold at the feeders they monitor. 161 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: But to say that there are too many hawks as 162 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: a matter of opinion, and the solution should come from 163 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: someone who knows the difference between hawks and starlings. Over 164 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, where it's always a hot spot for outdoor legislation, 165 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: and this year is no different, a group of Republican 166 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: legislators have introduced a bill that would ban dough hunting 167 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: in the northern third of the state. They say they've 168 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: heard from hundreds of constituents complaining about this year's poor 169 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: deer season, so they've introduced a bill that would prohibit 170 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: the DNR from establishing a hunting season on antlerless deer 171 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: in the northern forest zone. The bill would further prohibit 172 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: the DNAR from issuing more than two antler tags purpose 173 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: and in that zone. These restrictions would last four years, 174 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: after which the DNR would assess the population of deer 175 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: in the Northern Forest Zone. It is true that the 176 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: deer harvest this year was down in northern Wisconsin. Hunters 177 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: killed fourteen point seven fewer bucks in the zone during 178 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: November's nine day gun season compared to the five year average. 179 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: According to the DNR. The dough harvest in the zone 180 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: was also down twenty seven point two percent from the 181 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: five year average. However, the cause of that decline is 182 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: hotly debated. Biologists with the DNR blame last year's harsh winter. 183 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: On the other hand, many hunters say that wolves are 184 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: driving the decline. If winter is the true culprit, major 185 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: changes to the hunting regulations likely aren't necessary. But if 186 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: wolves are to blame, you can see why some lawmakers 187 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: and residents would like to see more drastic action to 188 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: help settle this debate. I reached out to longtime outdoor 189 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: writer in Wisconsin, resident Pat Dirkin. Pat explained the deer 190 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: numbers have been down across the entire north Woods, including 191 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: northwestern Ontario and the northern counties of Michigan's Lower Peninsula 192 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: since a quote nutbuster winner in twenty thirteen, but wolves 193 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: were in Ontario prior to that winter, when deer herds 194 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: were at their peak, and there are no wolves in 195 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: Michigan's lower peninsula. If wolves were the primary driver of 196 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: declining deer numbers, you'd expect those numbers to be strong 197 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: in Michigan and poor in Ontario. In reality, the population's 198 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: track with bad winners far more closely than with wolves. 199 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: Pat says quote. My prediction would be that if they 200 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: get this bill passed, everyone will still be complaining of 201 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: too few Northwoods deer in January twenty twenty eight. Wolves 202 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: certainly impact deer populations, but a long term view of 203 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: the problem indicates that it would be better to address 204 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: habitat degradation and leave harvest quotas to biologists and hunter 205 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: advisory groups. This bill has not yet been assigned number 206 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: as of this recording, but any concerned hunters should get 207 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: in touch with their Wisconsin state representatives. Staying in Wisconsin, 208 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: anglers are fighting to keep sturgeon spearing legal in the 209 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: Lake Winnebago system. Thanks to listener Ryan Ebert and a 210 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 2: bunch of you other folks who wrote in to talk 211 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: about this one, The US Fish and Wildlife Service is 212 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: set to decide whether to list Lake sturgeon under the 213 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: Endangered Species Act. After receiving a petition to list sturgeon 214 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: from the Center of Biological Diversity, the agents he decided 215 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: to conduct a status review of the species. They're set 216 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: to release their decision in June of this year, and 217 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: if they decide that sturgeon are endangered or threatened, it 218 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: could ban sturgeon fishing in all fifty states. Most states 219 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: don't have enough of a population to warrant a season, 220 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: but Wisconsin is different. Sturgeon are heavily managed in Wisconsin, 221 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: and those efforts have grown the population in the Lake 222 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: Winnebago system to an estimated forty thousand fish. There is 223 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: a spearing season every year and thirteen thousand licenses are sold. 224 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: Based on this excellent track record of state management, a 225 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: bipartisan group of Wisconsin's congregational delegation is asking the US 226 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: Fish and Wildlife Service to consider an exemption of the 227 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: Wisconsin population. They say banning the spearing season is unnecessary 228 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: and would eliminate a unique and cherished annual tradition, and 229 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: they've introduced a bill called Spear Act to preemptively exempt 230 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: Wisconsin fish from listing. The Fish and Wildlife Service is 231 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: set to release their findings on June thirtieth to twenty 232 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: twenty four. Even if you don't live in Wisconsin, you 233 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: should submit a comment when the findings are released. Wisconsin 234 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: anglers and wildlife managers have done excellent work for the 235 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: species and they should be allowed to reap the rewards. 236 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: The Washington State Legislature is considering a bill that could 237 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,239 Speaker 2: enshrine the right to hunt and fish in the state constitution. SJR. 238 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: Eight to zero eight would place the amendment on the 239 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: ballot at the next general election. It would declare that quote, 240 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: all the people of this state shall have an inalienable 241 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: right to forage, hunt, fish, trap, and harvest wildlife and fish, 242 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: subject only to reasonable regulation as prescribed by the Washington 243 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: State Legislature and Executive Branch. The bill is aimed at 244 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: curbing the State Wildlife Commission's recent encroachments on hunting and fishing. 245 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: If the bill passes, Washington residents would still have to 246 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: approve the amendment. Thanks to listener Paul Craven for sending 247 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: us this story. The Indiana State Legislature is considering a 248 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: bill that would establish a bobcat hunting and trapping season 249 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: in the state. The DNR tried to institute a season 250 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: back in twenty eighteen, but abandoned the effort after receiving 251 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: strong opposition. A similar bill also failed to earn enough 252 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,239 Speaker 2: support back in twenty nineteen. Now five years later, legislators 253 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: from the southern part of the state are once again 254 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: trying to make it happen. Senate Bill two four one 255 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: requires the Director of the Department of Natural Resources to 256 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: adopt rules for a bobcat hunting season. The DNR can 257 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: determine harvest quotas and means of take, but it must 258 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: establish a season no later than July one, twenty twenty five. 259 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: It is unclear whether the bobcat population is robust enough 260 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: to sustain a hunting or trapping season. Even though the 261 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: DNR tried to create a season in twenty eighteen, they 262 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: told local media the next year that they did not 263 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: quote have the scientific data to support a sustainable bobcat season. 264 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: Of course, there's a difference between not having data and 265 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: having data. To the contrary, the agency might not have 266 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: a solid population estimate, but that doesn't mean the population 267 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: can't sustain a hunt. Bobcats are elusive and their exact 268 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: numbers can be difficult to estimate, but it's clear that 269 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: their numbers have risen since they were listed as endangered 270 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: in the state in two thousand and five. This bill 271 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: SB two four one passed the Senate Natural Resources Committee 272 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: on a seven to one vote and is headed for 273 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: the Senate floor. Thanks to Colin Flora for sending that 274 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: one in. We're going to end this legislative desk with 275 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: a whole lot of updates coming at your real fast. 276 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: Get used to this. Bills are being proposed in Washington 277 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: State and New Mexico that would impose additional taxes on 278 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: firearms and ammunition. In New Mexico's Senate Bill ninety would 279 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: impose an eleven percent excise tax on all firearms, firearm parts, ammunition, 280 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: and suppressors. In Washington State, House Bill two two three 281 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: eight would impose an eleven percent quote privileged tax on 282 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: consumers for all ammunition sales. In New Hampshire, HB eleven 283 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: forty eight would amend the qualifications for potential members of 284 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: the Fishing Commission to make it easier to install anti 285 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: hunting commissioners. In North Carolina, the Wildlife Commission is floating 286 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: a proposal to move the opening day of gun deer 287 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: season from the Monday before Thanksgiving to the Saturday after 288 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving in seventeen counties. Finally, the Bureau of Land Management 289 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: wants to significantly reduce recreational shooting within Arizona's Sonoran Desert 290 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: National Monument. The agency has announced a proposed amendment to 291 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: the monument's resource management plan that would allow target shooting 292 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: on fifty three hundred acres of the monument and ban 293 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: it from the remaining acreage. That would cut the acreage 294 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: that currently gives Phoenix area gun owners at free place 295 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: to shoot by about four hundred and thirty thousand acres. 296 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: A public comment period is currently open at Federal Register 297 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: dot gov. Remember you're right in askcl at themeaeater dot com. 298 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: Let me know what's going on in your neck of 299 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: the woods. Moving on to the crime desk to New 300 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: York men have been hit with fines and missed me 301 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: after they got caught poaching trophy class bucks from city parks. 302 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: But that's not the best part of the story. The 303 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: best part is just how these yahoos found the deer 304 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: they ended up hunting. According to the New York Department 305 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: of Environmental Conservation, one of the men, a guy named 306 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: Jason Zorda posed as a female wildlife photographer on Facebook. 307 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: He would contact other local wildlife photographers when he saw 308 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: a photo of a big buck and get the details 309 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: of where that photo was taken. Then he and his partner, 310 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: Kevin Butler would get to work. They each had backpacks 311 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: that held compact bows, and they would hide arrows inside 312 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: trekking poles. That way, anyone they had happened upon in 313 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: these urban and suburban areas would assume they were just hikers. 314 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: They finally got caught when a resident of an apartment 315 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: complex in the town of Tanawanda saw one of them 316 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: kill a deer and called the police. They fled before 317 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: law enforcement arrived, but like any good modern day hunters, 318 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: Zorda and Butler had installed trail camps. Police found the 319 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: men using those trail camp photos and a search weren't 320 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: eventually uncovered the entire scheme, and it does appear to 321 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: be a larger scheme. The New York dec mentions other 322 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: poachers who also used Facebook to locate target bucks, and 323 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: it sounds like we'll be hearing about more suspects and 324 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: charges coming down the pike for now. Zorda and Butler 325 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: will be enjoying a five year suspension on their hunting 326 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: licenses in a one seventy five dollars fine. I want 327 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: to say something here that there is a lot of 328 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: good hunting skills in this modern era of e scouting 329 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: that these two crooks employed. Okay, I will tell you 330 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: that there is good hunting information all over the non 331 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: hunting parts of the Internet. What you have to do 332 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: is apply that non hunting hunting information in legal areas 333 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: to hunt. Obviously, you jackwads. Five hunting dogs were shot 334 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: and killed in two separate incidents in Virginia last month 335 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: as conflicts between hunters and landowners come to a head. 336 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: One King and Queen County landowner in his face multiple 337 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: felony charges for shooting, killing, and burying three hunting dogs. 338 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: Two dead hunting dogs were found on the property of 339 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: the aptly named Eric Ripper, and an additional dog was 340 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: found several days later. He faces three felony counts of 341 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: cruelty to animals and two misdemeanors of removing electronic collars 342 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: from a dog. In the other incident, a landowner shot 343 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: three dogs and killed two of them. The person has 344 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: not been identified or charged, but He claims he did 345 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: it because the dogs were attacking his animals, but the 346 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: dog's owners say that's impossible. They told local media that 347 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: the GPS callers proved the dogs weren't anywhere near the 348 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: landowner's chickens, and one of them says he heard fifteen 349 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: or sixteen shots as the dogs approached the property. The 350 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: landowner buried the two dogs he killed, removed their collars, 351 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: and threw the collars in a burn barrel, which is 352 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: exactly the kind of thing an innocent person would obviously 353 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: not be doing. Hopefully game Wardens get to the bottom 354 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: of this and justice has served. The dogs who survived 355 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: the shooting didn't sustain any broken bones and is recovering 356 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: at home. Moving on to the bug desk, get ready, Illinois. 357 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: Two broods of cicadas are set to hatch this spring 358 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: for the first time in two hundred and twenty one years, 359 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: and they're headed for the Land of Lincoln. Broods thirteen 360 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: and nineteen are both scheduled to emerge this year. Brood nineteen, 361 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: which pops up every thirteen years, covers southern Illinois and 362 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: Missouri and stretches down through Arkansas and across many southern 363 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: and southeastern states. Brood thirteen emerges every seventeen years and 364 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: is isolated to northern Illinois, southern Wisconsin, and eastern Iowa. 365 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: You'll notice that the only state where these broods overlap 366 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: is Illinois. Northern Illinois will see Brood thirteen emerge around 367 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: late May or early June, and brood nineteen could appear 368 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: as early as April. The large red eyed flying insects 369 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: will cause a ruckus for a few months as they 370 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: reproduce and then start dying off as the summer comes 371 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: to a end. Cicadas are fascinating insects. Their complete life 372 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: cycle takes over a decade, most of which is spent 373 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: as nymphs under the ground. There are annual cicadas that 374 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: emerge every year, but periodical cicadas are more famous. These 375 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: cicadas incorporate a variety of subspecies, but they are often 376 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: categorized by brood. Broods are distinguished based on the schedule 377 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: when they emerge from the ground. There are twelve broods 378 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: that emerge every seventeen years and three broods that emerge 379 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: every thirteen years. Broods are loosely regional, but the same 380 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: brood can emerge in different parts of the country. Broods 381 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: can also be what are called straggling. This happens when 382 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: a brood comes out a year early or a year late. 383 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 2: Scientists don't know exactly why this happens, but it's probably 384 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: just to mess with entomologists, which is the word we 385 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: use for scientists who study insects. The usual explanation for 386 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: how cicadas keep track of time relates to what they eat. 387 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: Cicada nymps feed on tree sap underground, which changes composition 388 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: as trees grow and shed their leaves. Scientists believe cicadas 389 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: have internal molecular clocks that keep track of each year 390 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 2: based on changes in tree sap and tell the bugs 391 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: when to climb up out of the ground. According to 392 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: one theory, climate shocks such as extreme freezes or droughts 393 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: might throw off this clock, which is how a star 394 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: draggling brood would emerge. Lastly, to answer the question I 395 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: know everyone is asking, yes, you can eat cicadas. The 396 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: Cleveland Clinic advises young children, pregnant women, people with shellfish allergies, 397 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: and people at risk for gout to avoid the flying snacks, 398 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: but cicadas are safe for anyone else to eat, as 399 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: long as you don't collect them from areas where the 400 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: ground has seen heavy chemical treatment. The insects have a 401 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: nutty flavor and shrimp like quality, and I'd recommend sautang 402 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: or frying. I also want to hear from the anglers 403 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: out there, what the heck happens during heavy Cicada years 404 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: for you folks that are trying to make a living 405 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: out there guiding folks on the big water right and 406 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: let me know. Last, but not least, the mailbag listener 407 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: Nate Mason wrote in because he wanted to give a 408 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: shout out to his local wildlife manager. These are the 409 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: folks who do the hard on the groundwork that often 410 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: goes unnoticed, and I appreciated Nate's desire to acknowledge that service. 411 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: Nate says, quote, I know malfeasance usually graces your inbox, 412 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: but just wanted to give a shout out to a 413 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: pair of local do gooders. I'm part of the Fairfax 414 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: County Deer Management program in which transient city slickers like 415 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: myself get a chance to hunt Phil Freezer's assistant management 416 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: goals and feed the homeless, all within ten miles of Washington, DC. 417 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: All this is due to the hard work of doctor 418 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: Catherine Edwards in her law enforcement counterparts as they regulate 419 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: the season, run interference with disgruntled neighbors, and generally facilitate 420 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: the program. She's a champ. She sounds like a champ. 421 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: Thanks to doctor Edwards for her work managing wildlife around 422 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: the nation's capital. And thanks to Nate who serves as 423 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: an infantry officer for the US Army. That's all I 424 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: got for you this week. Thank you so much for 425 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: writing in. Remember get a hold of me. Ask c 426 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: Al that's an ascal at the Meatmeater dot com and 427 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: let me know what's going on in your neck of 428 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: the woods. Thanks again, I'll talk to you next week.