1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Hunt's Giants, Giants Mobul. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Give Me some Joke part of the Giants Podcast Network's Roll. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 3: I am John Schmelk. Every summer we're joined by the 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: one and only Warren Sharp, who puts together is great 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: NFL preview book every summer, comes on talk with us 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: about the book, the Giants chapter. 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Warren always go to talk to you, my friend, how 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: are you? 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: I am doing great, really looking forward to this conversation. 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: The Giants seem to be that interesting hot button team 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: where no matter who you actually root for, everybody sort 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: of has something, some sort of an opinion about the Giants. 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: So it's kind of neat that they've gotten all this 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: publilicity over the last couple of years, and especially with 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: the Daniel Jones contract the other year. But it's going 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: to be great to talk to you about them, and 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm certainly looking forward to getting this preseason underway and 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: actually seeing some live football all flying through the air 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: and some guys hitting each other. It's going to be 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: a lot of fun here of the next few weeks. 23 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and being on a hard knocks doesn't hurt either, 24 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: with teams trying to pay attention to what you're doing. Right. 25 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: And by the way, just so fans understand, this is 26 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: gonna air a little bit later, maybe a week from now. 27 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: We're recording this the afternoon of the first preseason game 28 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: on August first. That anything happens to me now and 29 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: then you know why we did not talk about it 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: before we get into the Giants, Warren, tell them about 31 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: your book where you can find it. I know you 32 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: set up a special promotion for Giant fans as well. 33 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: We did. It's five hundred over five hundred pages of 34 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: in depth analysis about all thirty two teams. I got 35 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: a copy of it, printed copy of it right here. 36 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: John has the PDF. But we have this available up 37 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: at sharp dot football and you can get it for 38 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 2: fifty percent off. So a special for you Giant fans. 39 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: All you do is enter the code Giants and you'll 40 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: get fifty percent off. And I think you're gonna get 41 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna share a lot about the Giants today, but 42 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of very useful information, still more than 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: what we're gonna be able to discuss about the Giants 44 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: in the in the book, but also the other thirty 45 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: one teams, whether you're in the fantasy betting, whatever case, 46 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: might be going to find something useful inside there. 47 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 48 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a great book. The information and the data 49 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: and there is fantastic. So Warren, let's start kind of 50 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 3: a big picture deal, right. We did this around the 51 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: same time last year, and we talked about dangerous areas 52 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: of regression for the Giants coming off that extraordinary playoff 53 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 3: run in twenty twenty two. One was their ability to 54 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: win so many close games, but you also a pinpoint 55 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 3: to some other areas that did end up regressing. That 56 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: maybe is one of some of the reasons why the 57 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: record turned around a little bit last year. 58 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of them was just their production 59 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: inside of the red zone. That kind of is scoring 60 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: points is what wins games, and the fact that they 61 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: were so good at scoring points back in twenty twenty 62 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: two and then they really struggled when they were down 63 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: inside of the red zone in twenty twenty three. That 64 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: was one of the danger areas that we mentioned because 65 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: redstone is you know the way that I look at 66 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: red zone. Yeah, a great play caller will absolutely help 67 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: inside of the red zone. However, if your team is 68 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: all of a sudden a top twelve, top ten team 69 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: inside the red zone, but over the rest of the field, 70 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: the other eighty yards, you're below average, well below average 71 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: at times like all, that's some sort of that's not normal, right, 72 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: That's not normal for you to be outstanding inside of 73 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: the red zone and terrible elsewhere, and so those things 74 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: are much more likely to regress. And that's what happened 75 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: to the New York Giants last season. After they were 76 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: number one in ranking and success rate in twenty twenty two, 77 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: that dropped all the way down to number thirty last year, 78 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: which you guys obviously painfully saw firsthand. Of course, we're 79 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: to talk about the injuries and how those factored into 80 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: the fact that you guys weren't great inside of the 81 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: red zone. But that was definitely one of those areas. 82 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: Health wasn't great. You know, there's a lot of things 83 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: that we thought may have problems this upcoming season, and frankly, John, 84 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: that's why the odds makers leading into the twenty twenty 85 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: three season. And I'll just put through this disclaimer out there, 86 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: and if you don't like betting on anything. It's interesting 87 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: to see what these guys who do this for a 88 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: living in terms of the odds makers say about your team. 89 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: You know, they're the ones who are studying it, trying 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: to figure out what expectations should be for this team, 91 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: and they did not have high expectations for you guys 92 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: entering last season. Even though you had a great run 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: to the playoffs and you were able to escape with 94 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: so many close game wins and you were able to 95 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: win a playoff game, the expectations were for you to 96 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: fall back to Earth hard in twenty twenty three. I 97 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: think your winter was like only seven and a half. 98 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: You were expected to really struggle and lo and behold. 99 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: That's what ended up happening. 100 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: And third down was another metric you mentioned that regressed 101 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: a little bit. They had the highest i think second 102 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: highest average yards to go on third down, which is 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: obviously something that's hard to overcome. And then we got 104 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: into twenty twenty three, and in our conversation last year, 105 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: we talked about just especially at the start of the year, 106 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: the consecutive really tough pass defenses Giants had to play 107 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: at the start of the year from Dallas to San Francisco. 108 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Miami was in there too. 109 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: Then you have those tough opponents combined with the offensive 110 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: line starting with Andrew Thomas falling apart in the injuries Warren, 111 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: and then it's really a situation. I went back, you know, 112 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: because I watched every game. I rewatched every game but 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: back in May. Just to remember, I went back. I 114 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: watched every Daniel Jones nap and it was honestly worse than 115 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: I remembered it, watching the protection and what he had 116 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 3: to deal with up front. 117 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: You had a great stat in your book. 118 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: I think you had him at sixty eight percent pressure 119 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: rate in the game against Dallas to start the OGE. 120 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: I think was the highest individual game pressure rate since 121 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: two thousand. So there was some kind of crazy number 122 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: like that you had in there. But just the circumstances 123 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: early in the year, between the injuries and the defenses 124 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: they were facing, they really didn't have much of a 125 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: chance offensively. 126 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: No, they didn't. And we could talk a little bit 127 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: more in detail about Daniel Jones and this pressure because 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: it still could be a situation this year that he's 129 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: gonna have to navigate and deal with, even though you 130 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: added a couple guys to the offensive line. But yeah, 131 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: that Week one game he had over forty dropbacks, had 132 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: forty two dropbacks and was pressured on sixty seven percent 133 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: of them. I went back through since two thousand, there's 134 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: not another player who was pressured on over forty plus 135 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: dropbacks that was pressured at a higher rate than Daniel Jones. 136 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: He set the record, and I can't go back beyond 137 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: two thousand, so we're talking twenty three years to twenty 138 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: four years, including two thousand. He was the highest most 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: pressured player in Week one of anybody, and he was 140 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: sacked on twenty percent of his dropbacks in Week one. 141 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: In the five years most recent five years, there's been 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: three games where a quarterback has been a drop back 143 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: to pass at least forty times and was sacked at 144 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: least twenty percent of those. Two of those three were 145 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones games last year. That just shows you how 146 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: terrible like the pass protection was. And of course what 147 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: was the sad They gave up eighty five sacks, which 148 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: is in an NFL record, and their sack margin was 149 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: minus fifty one. Once again, I can only go back 150 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: to two thousand with some of these numbers, and I 151 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: couldn't find another team that had a sack margin close 152 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: to that, I mean the close The next closest team 153 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: was minus forty one. The Giants were at minus fifty one. 154 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: So just we know it wasn't all Daniel Jones, right, 155 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: because Daniel Jones got injured in part because of this line. 156 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: So Daniel Jones wasn't there. We know your backups aren't 157 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: going to be able to avoid the pass rush quite 158 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: is it deputly, And then you're talking about third stringers 159 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: and guys that are rookies that shouldn't even necessarily be 160 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: starters in the NFL that are being thrust in there. 161 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: So naturally some of that is the fault of those, 162 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: you know, the backups and the backups to the backups, 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: as well as your offensive line, as you mentioned with 164 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas. But that being said, this is something that 165 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: must change, and at some point in this conversation we 166 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: should dig into Daniel Jones and how much of that 167 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: he control personally. But that was something that was a 168 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: big factor last year and it has to improve this 169 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: year if the Giants have any hope of seeing success. 170 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: And the Giants they could have as many as three 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: different stars in the offensive line we'll see how that 172 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: goes with Evan Neil trying to make his way back. 173 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: And so let's get into Daniel Jones because I think 174 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: we've shown analytically over the years that quarterbacks certainly have 175 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: a high control over their sack rate, right, could quarterbacks 176 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: control that to a lesser extent they control their pressure rate? 177 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: And I thought what was interesting. 178 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: You list the pressure and sack rates for all three 179 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: Giants starters last year, and all three had a decent 180 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: amount of run, right, they all started at least three 181 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: games the Vito, Taylor, and Jones, and Jones by far 182 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: had the highest sack rate and pressure rate. What was 183 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: interesting to me is that he actually had the lowest 184 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: average time to throw among those three guys too, and 185 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: I think fourteenth if I remember off the top of 186 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: my head in the league in terms of average time 187 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: to throw. So, while yes, I agree the quarterbacks do 188 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: control it, I thought it was interesting that a lot 189 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: of times quarterbacks they get those high pressure rates warn 190 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: you know, they're guys like Field and holds the ball 191 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: a long time, they scramble around the invite pressure. Jones's 192 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: average time to throw actually was not that high last year, 193 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: despite the fact that he had all those pressures and sacks. 194 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: So again to your point, want to see pressure getting 195 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: rid of the ball. That's how you limit that sack 196 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: rate as a quarterback. 197 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And sacks are drive killers. And the Giants when 198 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: they take a sack, their points per drive drops dramatically. 199 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: The entire league does. So they're not immune to that, 200 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: but they are actually below average in how much a 201 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: sack impacts them. How much less likely you are to 202 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: score points of any kind on drive when you take 203 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: a sack. So you have to do everything that you 204 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: can to avoid the sack. Now, one thing that I 205 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: have started to believe even more. We know the quarterbacks 206 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: that you alluded to, they control to a higher extent 207 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: that we used to think they're sack rate. But that 208 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 2: pressure rate itself, I mean the dropbacks where you're getting 209 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: pressure in like a second second and a half. It's 210 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: hard too much about that, right, But one thing that 211 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: I think is under discussed is the fact that a 212 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: good quarterback, if you're getting pressured that quickly, unless your 213 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: offensive lineman just gets completely run over, which could happen, 214 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: there's a very good chance that you have the wrong 215 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: slide in the protection you're doing something at that line 216 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: of scrimmage that could improve. You could be doing something better, 217 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 2: whether it's anticipate the defense, check to a better play, 218 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: check to a different protection scheme, get that ball out 219 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: super quickly, or do something else to audible into something 220 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: better for your offensive line. And you know, when I 221 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: look back the last two years, now, last year, a 222 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: lot of injuries, et cetera. But even in twenty twenty two, 223 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: they go they win that playoff game. Out of forty 224 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: five quarterbacks that had at least three hundred pass attempts 225 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,239 Speaker 2: on early downs, which is the time that you're mostly 226 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: the defense might be playing the run, you're not likely 227 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: to be blitzed as often. Daniel Jones ranked forty four 228 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: out of forty five quarterbacks in pressure rate, forty four 229 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: out of forty five quarterbacks in sack rate, and forty 230 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: one out of forty five quarterbacks in sacks per pressure taken. 231 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: And these are things that Daniel Jones must improve this season. 232 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: And that's where I do have a little bit of 233 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: questions John, with regard to coming off this knee injury. 234 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: Is he one hundred percent? He certainly looks okay, you 235 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: will be able to fill us in a little bit 236 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 2: more about what you've seen up there at camp and 237 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: how close to one hundred percent he is. It's great 238 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: to see him out there, and it seems, to what 239 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm reading, participating in basically everything. But he's got to 240 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: be able to make those decisions to scramble if he 241 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: needs to, because those plays are the highest upside. If 242 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: you go back to twenty twenty two, say, hey, the 243 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: Giants won a bunch of games in twenty twenty two. 244 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: They had some success. Daniel Jones was, you know, extending 245 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: these drives. They were marching down the field. Most of 246 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: that efficiency was not by him dropping back and passing 247 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: the ball. A lot of it was the scrambles. And 248 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 2: so the best play in football we talked about this 249 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: last remind the listeners the single best play in football 250 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: in terms of VPA per play is a designed pass 251 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: play where the quarterback sees a run lane open up 252 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: and he boom just goes and takes that run lane 253 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: and scrambles with the football where the defense is playing 254 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: pass but he sees the opportunity to run. These are 255 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: plays that have a really high floor. You're gaining seven, 256 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: eight to nine yards per play. On average, an average 257 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: drop back is like seven a half to eight and 258 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: a half yards right, So you're basically that assumes a 259 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: lot of things right. Your receiver's got to catch the ball. 260 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: You have to be accurate enough with the pass, a 261 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: lot of us to go right to get that number. 262 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: Whereas these run plays have such a high floor, so 263 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: he's got to continue to be able to take those 264 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: with that knee injury. But I just feel like the 265 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: coaching staff and Jones has to work on more things 266 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: at that line of scrimmage pre snap to get the 267 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: right play call in, to make the adjustment if necessary 268 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: based on the way that you anticipating coverage coming. Have 269 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: you watched enough film to pick up on all these 270 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: things like Manning or Brady would do it the line 271 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: of scrimmage to make those split second adjustments that must 272 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: occur so that you can buy that an extra second 273 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: before you get pressured or before you take a sack. 274 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: And then also once that snap happens, how where are 275 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: you moving and shifting yourself in the pocket based upon 276 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: where you think that pressure might be coming from. How 277 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: quickly are you getting through your progressions to get rid 278 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: of the ball before you're pressured. There's a lot of 279 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: things that quarterbacks could do to control the pressure, not 280 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: just the sacks. Jones needs to improve in that area. Obviously, 281 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: Giants fans are hoping that he's going to this upcoming season. 282 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens, 283 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: So go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country. 284 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 285 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: you ready for all that life brings? 286 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: You know you mentioned the early down success or lack there. Oh, 287 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: why don't we go there next onm as you brought 288 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 3: that up, and you're right, that's when you get a 289 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: lot of your explosive plays right, you're in play action 290 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: an early day, you get the ball down the field. 291 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: You know, anecdotally, just rewatching a lot of those plays 292 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: last year one, there are way too many where the 293 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: Giants run in to play action. They're protecting with six 294 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: or seven guys, only putting two or three guys into 295 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: the route and the other team is still getting pressure 296 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: with four. Right, that would be a really good explanation 297 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: for wire early down offense is not going well. But 298 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: that is really you know, the early down success for 299 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: you is really one of the areas right with the 300 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: Giants have to get better at in twenty twenty four 301 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: of this offense. You know, really they've been in the 302 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: doldrums for much of the last four or five years, 303 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: averaging under twenty points per game. You have to be 304 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: able to do better on early downs throwing the football. 305 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: You have to do better on early downs throwing the football, 306 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: and you have to do it at the beginning of games. 307 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the biggest things for me if 308 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: you would say what are like and you just mentioned it. 309 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: In fact, like a couple of the most important things 310 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: that they have to do, we basically hit on several 311 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: of them. But to round it out, we talked about 312 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: the red zone. That's got improve year over year. That 313 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: has to improve. But even before you do that, because 314 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: the red zone is like what happens at the end 315 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: of a drive. You have to be able to get 316 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: down there and you have to be able to do 317 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: it at the beginning of the game. And so to me, 318 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: it's early down offense at the beginning of the game, 319 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: in the first quarter of games, it's generating these explosives, 320 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: and it's protecting your quarterback. Those are kind of the 321 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: biggest three that are going to affect everything else. If 322 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: you're good there, you may not encounter as many third downs. 323 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: And so the Giants the third down issues that we discussed, 324 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: where they were thirtieth in distance to go on third 325 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: down and they were also thirtieth in conversion rate, Like 326 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: that's not going to impact you quite as much. If 327 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: you're more efficient on early downs and to get to 328 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: the red zone, you have to be good enough over 329 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: the other eighty yards of the vootball field. And guess what, 330 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: you can also skip the red zone by being explosive 331 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: on a thirty yard line on a thirty five and 332 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: converting a touchdown at that point. So if you simply 333 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: score first in these games, get early scoring, which the 334 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: Giants are number thirty two last year, and they were 335 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: thirty two the year before, So this is not just 336 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: a well the offense was beat up last year backup quarterback, 337 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: So let's write off and ignore what happened in twenty 338 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: twenty three. In twenty twenty two, you guys were dead 339 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: last on first quarter scoring, and you were the same 340 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: dead last in first quarter scoring last year. If I 341 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: could do one thing, it's day ball and Kafka get 342 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: in that lab mix up a bunch of things that 343 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: are going to result in you guys scoring in the 344 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: first quarter of games. Because John that that just tracks 345 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: so well with ability to win games. And I think 346 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: I went back and looked. I don't know if it's 347 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: over the last two years or what it was, but 348 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: when the Giants are up at halftime, their results, I 349 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: think they're like eleven three and one. 350 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: And one is what I have in my notes here. 351 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you're playing a covering on this as well, 352 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: and you probably got the notes more handy than I do. 353 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: They're great in those games and they're exceeding expectations, but 354 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: when they fall behind early and they can't be close 355 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: at halftime, they're not winning these games. And these games 356 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: could be won in the first half, and it's particularly 357 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: into the first quarter of games, and that's where they 358 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: really have to make those adjustments this year. And that's 359 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: not just on execution. It's on the play calls, it's 360 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: on the game plans, it's on everything that goes into 361 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: how do we start games in day Ball was really 362 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 2: good at that in Buffalo, and that's something that this 363 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: team has to get a lot better at here in 364 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: New York. In twenty twenty four. 365 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to get to dab on a little bit, 366 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 3: and you know you kind of reference this already. Really, 367 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: maybe the two most important things were in the scoring 368 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: points in this league is sack avoidance. You mentioned how 369 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 3: that kills plays and last year's book, I'm a great 370 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: stat where you know the percent of drives you score 371 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: with the sack verse with that and it's just astronomically different. 372 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: And then explosive plays. The Giants only the three point 373 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: nine percent explosive play rate last year, which was towards. 374 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: The bottom of the league. 375 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 3: And I remember in last year's book too, you had 376 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: another stat where you know the percent chance you score 377 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: in a drive when you have a play that I believe, 378 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: I think fifteen yards or more was the best bet 379 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: mark number that you had. It goes up five to 380 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: six times better chance of scoring if you have a 381 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: play a fifteen plus yard So those are two areas 382 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: where the Giants really struggled last year. Where that to me, 383 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 3: sack avoidance and explosive plays, that has to be at 384 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: the top of the list, along with again early scoring 385 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 3: if things are going to. 386 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Get better this year. 387 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the thing John is that some of 388 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: these things like you know, the red zone, it was 389 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: worse last year. Okay, well many of those because the 390 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: injuries were third downs, the things that you just talked about, 391 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: first quarter scoring, sack of avoidance, and explosive plays. This 392 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: is fans need to know. This is not just a 393 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three problem. This was a problem in twenty 394 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: twenty two as well. They overcame those things with a 395 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 2: lot of big leverage plays late in games and they 396 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: were able to win a lot of those close games. 397 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 2: And that's not the way that you can bank wins 398 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: in the NFL and be consistent. You have to fix 399 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: those other three areas, and there were problems in twenty 400 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: twenty two. There are problems in twenty twenty three. The 401 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: staff really has to focus on improving in those three 402 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: areas if they're going to have success, and it's not 403 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit of improvement, it needs to 404 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 2: be a lot of improvement because they're literally like dead 405 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: last in the NFL and pretty much all these marks, 406 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: they're dead last and explosive play right last I looked 407 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, even though they were healthier, they 408 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: gained twenty plus yards and only three point nine percent 409 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: of their plays. That was dead last in the NFL, 410 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: So they have to improve from dead last to at 411 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: least close to league average. But doesn't take a lot 412 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: like these couple layers. Just focus a little bit more, 413 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: generate a couple more explosive plays each half one a half, 414 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: maybe figure out a way to score more points in 415 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: the first quarter. If you emphasize that, you emphasize a 416 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: little bit more explosiveness. 417 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: All of a. 418 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: Sudden, these games are winnable. You don't have to come 419 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: from behind, you don't have to have a lot of 420 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: great variants go your way. You just need to finish 421 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: these games off and it's so much easier for both 422 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: sides of the ball off and defensively, let's face it, 423 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: it's tough on your defense if your defense is always 424 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: playing from behind. The other teams in a position of 425 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 2: strength in the second half of games, and they got 426 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: their full playbook open, they can run the ball, they 427 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: can pass it short, they can pass it deep, they 428 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: can call a play to avoid a blitz. Just as 429 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: long as they don't get sacked, they're happy. Meanwhile, if 430 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: you're playing from a deficit, if you're the opponent, you're 431 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: pushing it. Every single play has got to be a hit. 432 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: You can't avoid any negatives. You got to figure out 433 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: how to score points quickly. You're more predictable offensively in 434 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: what you're doing, and that makes life a lot easier 435 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: on your defense. So I'm optimistic about your new defensive coordinator. 436 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: I liked what he did down in Tennessee. I think 437 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: that there's some upside here and the pieces that he's 438 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: got to work with that is the best unit of 439 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: any unit on your roster when you look at you know, 440 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: let's rank the quarterbacks league wide. Let's rank the receiving 441 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: room league wide, the offensive live league wide. The only 442 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: place that I really see where you guys are above 443 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: average is that front seven. So he's got people to 444 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 2: work with up there. They just have to be in 445 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: a position where they can throw more tricks out there 446 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: and be a little bit more creative when they're not 447 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: playing from a deficit all the time. And so that's 448 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: on the offense, not just the defense. It's its team game, 449 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: and the offense can really help them out in the 450 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: second half if they are leading in the first half. 451 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy you brought that up. 452 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: Is we talk about game flow here all the time 453 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 3: war and it really is important you talk about the 454 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: impact on the defense. 455 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: It hurts your own offensive line. Right. 456 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: If the other team doesn't worry about your running the 457 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: ball because you're playing from two scores behind, they can 458 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: just do whatever they want in the passing game, and 459 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: it really does change absolutely everything. One other show I 460 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: want to get with you from last year, which I 461 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: thought was interesting, you talked about play action effectiveness and 462 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: this kind of goes to the early down stuff where 463 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: the giants in play action were not nearly as explosive, 464 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 3: especially as they needed to be, and you found that 465 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: Jones was much better in shotgun play action than under 466 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: center play action. Can you dive into that little bit 467 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: and why in those playoffs and situations you to try 468 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: to get the ball down the field a little bit more? 469 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the whole goal with play action is 470 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: to get that that middle level of defense to bite up, 471 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: try to get them to come down, and then you 472 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: can pass the ball over the top of them so 473 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: you can create that separation, especially where they're a step, 474 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: either they're moving a step towards the line of scrimmage 475 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: or they're hesitating holding position and your guys can get 476 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: in behind them all of a sudden, there's a mismatch 477 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: there based on alignment enduring a play, and that's really 478 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: the way that you gain an advantage. But if you 479 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: run play action, just dump it off underneath to one 480 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: of your players behind the line of scrimmage, you are 481 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: just playing right into those guys that are already coming 482 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: downhill and then have the opportunity to just go and 483 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: tackle these guys for short gains. And so one of 484 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: the things I looked at Daniel Jones splits when he 485 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: passed over five yards down the field on first downs 486 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: in the first half, if he used play action, he 487 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: was fifty two percent success nine point eight yards per attempt. 488 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: If he didn't use play action, forty three percent success 489 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: five point eight yards per ten So that first down 490 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: play action was helpful for him. But they were using 491 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: play action at rate and throwing the ball behind the 492 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage to players where it really wasn't beneficial. 493 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: And since I've written this chapter, John, I performed a 494 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: study league wide about just the trend. Un So I'll 495 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: go ahead and kind of digress a little bit. But 496 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: the trend in the league of throwing the ball short 497 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: of the line of scrimmage, and how the way defenses 498 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: are playing more and more to prevent those big plays 499 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: down the field, it's encouraging oftensive coordinators to dial up 500 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: plays where they're a little bit happier throwing the ball 501 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage and trying to then make 502 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: something happen after that point in time, especially the way 503 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: that these defenses are playing, and they view it as 504 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: like an extension of the run game to throw these 505 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 2: plays short. But the problem is those plays from an 506 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 2: offensive side have been increasing. The rate at which they're 507 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: throwing the ball behind the line of scrimmage has been 508 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: growing and growing and growing over the last decade. The 509 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: efficiency of those plays has been shrinking dramatically. Those players 510 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: are getting less and less and less efficient because the 511 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: way the defense is playing, it's preventing the big plays, 512 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: but they're rallying up to those short plays underneath, and 513 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: so offensive coordinators need to resist the urge of throwing 514 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: the ball shortest sticks. And here's the great kind of example. 515 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: Last year, all thirty two teams, every single team had 516 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: negative EPA when they threw the ball behind the line 517 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: of script. 518 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: Wow. 519 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: But twenty nine out of those thirty two teams had 520 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: positive EPA when they threw the ball beyond the line 521 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Only three teams had negative EPA throwing the 522 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: ball beyond the line of scrimmage, But every single team 523 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: had negative EPA when they threw the ball short line 524 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: of scrimmage, even the forty nine Ers, even the Kansas 525 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 2: City Chiefs, even the best offenses in the NFL with 526 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks, when they're throwing it short of the 527 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, EPA was negative last season, and almost 528 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: nobody had negative VPA if they just threw the ball 529 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 2: one two yards even down the football field. So offensive 530 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: coordinators need to be a little bit more aggressive with 531 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: how they're calling plays and not play into the defense. 532 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: And the way to offset that is obviously calling more 533 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: pass plays that go down the field as opposed to 534 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: those short plays behind the line of scrimmage, which has 535 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: been the trend. But number two in many cases, a 536 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: simple run play, like if the quarterbacks at the line 537 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: of scrimmage and he sees that this short screen pass 538 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: or bubble whatever you're going to throw looks like it's 539 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: covered up well, one word audible to the run play, 540 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: because that run play is probably going to gain more 541 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: efficiency than that pass play, which is fully covered. And secondarily, 542 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: we just talked about those QB scrambles. Instead of throwing 543 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: that pass, take your quarterback and just try to scramble 544 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: for some positive yards. You're probably going to gain more 545 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: yards that way. Then you are throwing these screens behind 546 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. 547 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: You love hers, You're good at it. You start a 548 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: turf fizz business grows, your savings grow, become the most 549 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 4: celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all that 550 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: life brings? 551 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: Football season is coming and so is the next college semester. 552 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 3: If you need funding, a Citizen Student loan can help 553 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 3: you pay for one hundred percent of your school certifight costs. 554 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 3: Get your great quote in about two minutes at citizensbank 555 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: dot com slash pay for college joined by Warren Sharp Warren, 556 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: You've mentioned Brian Dable a couple of times, and you 557 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: had a nice little Twitter I'll quote a rant why 558 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: not about Brian Dable last week? You just have a 559 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: lot of respect for him as an offensive coach and 560 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 3: the job he does with offenses. Can you just go 561 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 3: into why you have such great respect for Brian Dable 562 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: and the way he puts an offense together and the 563 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: way he coaches on that side of the ball. 564 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that Daveall's one of the coaches 565 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: in the league. There's a lot of younger offensive minded 566 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: head coaches and offensive coordinators coming out there who already 567 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 2: understand the right ways to win games, like how how 568 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: you win games, and those things haven't worked perfectly in 569 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: New York from that regard, right They're coming from behind, 570 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: they're not playing from ahead, They're not doing some of 571 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: the things that I would want them to do. Overall, 572 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: I think Dave Ball is just working with what he's 573 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: been given. And you know, when he was in Buffalo 574 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: and had the opportunity, this was a team that was 575 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: jumping out on you, that was playing aggressively, and I 576 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: feel like he understands the ways to win games on 577 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: the offensive side of the football, and games are won offensively. 578 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: You Know, you could say great defenses rise up in 579 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: the playoffs, and we certainly saw that in the Super 580 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: Bowl last year with the Kansas City Chiefs and Steve Spagnolo. 581 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 2: But in order to get to that point, you need 582 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 2: to outscore your opponent. You need to have efficiency, and 583 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: we know offense is more likely to win games than defenses. 584 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: Offense dictates and Daball knows how to call those those plays. 585 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: And I think Dave Ball is very adept. 586 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: I think he. 587 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: Understands the ways to win games, and so I was 588 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: encouraged by the growth that he took Josh Allen on. 589 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: Dave All was there in eighteen, Davo was there in 590 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: nineteen when Josh Allen really wasn't good. He was trying 591 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 2: to figure out how to win twenty All of a sudden, 592 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: a bunch of things clicked. Josh worked on his own, 593 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: we know that he got some training, but Dave Ball 594 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: stepped his game up too, and Daboll was calling things differently. 595 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: They were attacking from a different philosophy. And I know 596 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: that Dave All had to convince Sean McDermott that this 597 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: is the way that they could play to win games. 598 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: I mean Sean McDermott at that time. You know, eighteen 599 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: and nineteen they had just gone to the playoffs. Keep 600 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: in mind, in nineteen they lost to the Houston Texans 601 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: with Sean Watson. I believe that year they you know, 602 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: you had a defensive minded coach A McDermott, who wasn't 603 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: sure if they went to the pass the ball so 604 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: much with the quarterback who really hadn't proven a whole lot. 605 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 2: But the reality was, that's the way to make it 606 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: easier for your quarterback is to pass the ball a lot, 607 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: and especially on those early downs when the defense playing run, 608 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: you know. 609 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: And it's funny just to kind of sum up this 610 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: whole thing before we get into the strength of schedule. 611 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: I love doing that with you. 612 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: I feel like, based on what they did this off season, Warren, 613 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: that to your point, Brian Table understands what it needs 614 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: to get better at. 615 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: Right. 616 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: You add all these veteran offensive linemen, new offensive line coach, 617 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: you draft, the league neighbors you have again, do you 618 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: get to your point you look at their roster strength, Well, 619 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: they have a lot of young guys that haven't proven 620 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: it yet. Right, they need these guys that they drafted 621 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: the last two or three years to take that next 622 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: step to make the roster better. That's why you draft guys, right, So, 623 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: I think they understand where they need to go. They've 624 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: tried to make the moves to get there, and now 625 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: we'll have to see how it all plays out to 626 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: see if they're able to do that before the strength 627 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: of schedule. Real quick, you mentioned you have optimism about 628 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: what Shane Bowen brings defensively based on what he did 629 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: in Tennessee. One of the things you like that Bowen's 630 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: defenses did in Tennessee that you would hope he brings 631 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: to the Giants. 632 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: So well, just bottom line, Like, when I look at 633 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: that Titans team in general, one of their weaknesses was 634 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: their defense if you look at the last several years, 635 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: but this team was winning games with me what Mike 636 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: Frabel was able to do in situations, and again, Rabel's 637 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: the head coach, so much of the credit goes to him. 638 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: That defense, though, that defense was able to play well 639 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: enough so that in games where they were expected to lose, 640 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: they actually were successful in They had one of the 641 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: best against the spread records. They had one of the 642 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: best records at upsetting opponents. This is a team that 643 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: was feisty in a lot of games that they were 644 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: expected to lose. And that feistiness didn't really start on 645 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball. It started on the 646 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. By punching some of these 647 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: teams in the mouth especially. I think of like some 648 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: of the games with Patrick Mahomes right, like where was 649 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: that Malik Willis went in there at the end of 650 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: the regular season and was winning or tied late against 651 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs like two years ago. This was 652 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: a team that got up to play against them opponents, 653 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: and I think it was that mindset and that mentality 654 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: of their defense. And for that reason, I think their 655 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator does deserve a lot of credit for that. 656 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: I think he was he was creative with a probably 657 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: talent that was a little bit below average on that 658 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: side of the football, and I'm excited to see what 659 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: he could bring to the table in New York. 660 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: We know. 661 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: It's like it's like inside of a family, like a 662 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: functioning family, a functioning business. When there's forces working in opposition, 663 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: it's hard to just get anything accomplished. And I know 664 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: that there were some issues there last season between your 665 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: defense coordinator end Dable, and that probably was a strain 666 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: on a lot of factors within that relationship within the building. 667 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: Within with regard to those sides of the football, I 668 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: think a fresh start there on that side of the 669 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: ball is going to be very beneficial for the Giants 670 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: this upcoming season, and I'm looking forward to seeing what 671 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: it looks like. One of the things that I did 672 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 2: not like, and I don't like it when you know, 673 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing a lot of analysis on the Detroit Lions 674 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: and Aaron Glenn and how that past defense moved from 675 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: literally the worst pass defense in the NFL when they 676 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: sent five plus pass rushers to a top ten pass defense. 677 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Lions when they blitzed only four 678 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: players when they rushed their regular four. They don't didn't 679 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: send an extra rusher, yet they blitzed at one of 680 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: the higher rates in the NFL because that's what their 681 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: defense coordinator, Aaron Glenn, likes to do. You know, I 682 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: don't like it when the defensive coordinator has a UH 683 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: is known for something like that, is known for sending 684 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure, is known for the blitzes because 685 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: it becomes predictable at times. And we know that your 686 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator was sending a lot of blitzes and was 687 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: became a little bit predictable in that regard. I want 688 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: more change up from your defense. I want more surprise. 689 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: I want more to make it harder on that quarterback 690 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: after he stops the ball where he's not sure quite 691 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: what that picture is going to look like. And so 692 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: that's why I'm excited to see your new defense coordinator 693 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: in action. 694 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: All right, let's do start the schedule of stuff to 695 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: wrap things up here, Warren. Last year, the Giants played 696 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: one of the toughest pass defenses in the National Football League. 697 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: Just a lot of really good pass defenses rushing the 698 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: past are EPA against the pass, stuff like that. 699 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: This year it's a little bit easier, but still not easy. 700 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: It's still i think, on the upper half of the 701 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 3: league twentieth overall strength to schedule, but it is an 702 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: easier schedule for the Giants defense. I imagine that has 703 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: a lot to do the fact that they're playing the 704 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: NFC South. So just your overall thoughts on the impact 705 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: the Giants' strength of schedule and the types of teams 706 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: they have in their schedule could impact the season. 707 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: What I really like about their schedule, John, is that 708 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 2: if you look at some of these opponents, Minnesota obviously 709 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: rookie quarterback, the Colts are starting a second year quarterback, 710 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: some are the Carolina Panthers. But if you look at 711 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: that NFC South or you look at who they're playing 712 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: in terms of the Seahawks or the Vikings this year 713 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: without Kirk Cousins there and the Colts, you're not looking 714 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: at teams that have a history of putting up high 715 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: points per game, And so that could allow your defense 716 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: to fare a little bit better and make things easier 717 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: for your offense if your offense can come out faster 718 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: to that keep things more in check. And now it's 719 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: a coin flip game, and you would expect on average 720 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: to win about fifty percent of your coin flip games, 721 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: so that would be a benefit. The offensive goal is 722 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: to get up early and help the defense so that 723 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: they're in these coin flip games late. Because you're not 724 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: a great team, but you might be able to win 725 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: enough of those coin flip games to feel good about 726 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: yourselves this season. And like I said, who knows sneak 727 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: it to the playoffs, But you do play a much 728 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: easier schedule. I showed you playing the toughest offenses in 729 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 2: the NFL last year. Your defense, it was not easy. 730 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: You played the second toughest pass offense is the number 731 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: one toughest overall offenses. This year, that drops down to 732 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 2: thirteenth overall offenses eleventh overall pass offenses. It's even easier 733 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: for your run defense as well. You play the fourteenth 734 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: rated attack of rushing offenses as opposed to number six 735 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: last year. So it's definitely going to be easier not 736 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: having to play so many of those good offenses last year. 737 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: And you know it's going to be hard on your offense, 738 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: your own offense in terms of Daniel Jones to the 739 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: offensive line, you by my estimation, are going to play 740 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: the number three toughest schedule of pass defenses. So this 741 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: is where relying a little bit more on the run game, 742 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 2: where you play the twenty sixth toughest schedule of run defenses, 743 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: should be able to help your rushing attack having a 744 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: little bit more balance. I mean, Saquon was there last 745 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: year and you played the fifth easiest schedule of run 746 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: defenses and you still didn't have a whole lot of 747 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: success in that regard. So just because you play good, 748 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: sorry easier run defenses, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to 749 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: be leading and have the opportunity to run on them 750 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: in the second half. But if you get up in 751 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 2: these games and now the playbooks open in the second half, 752 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: going up against a lot of these poor run defenses 753 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: could really help your offense fare a lot better. And 754 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: so that's why it's vital John, you know, talking through 755 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: this a little bit with you right now makes it 756 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: even more vital to jump out the early leads because 757 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: when you are playing the third toughest schedule of pass defenses, 758 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 2: but the twenty sixth toughest schedule of run defenses, being 759 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: able to run the ball in the second half with 760 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: the lead as opposed to force to pass the ball 761 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 2: in the second half against those number three toughest pass 762 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: defenses vital, vital, vital. So you have to score in 763 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: that first quarter to give your team an opportunity to 764 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: win games in the second half. 765 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 3: Well, Warren, I'll just say watching camp practice, we've had 766 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 3: about eight of them. I think we're up to where 767 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 3: practice number seven was today. They are throwing the ball 768 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 3: down the field a lot more. And this is against 769 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: the Shane Mohan defense that runs a lot of two 770 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 3: safety deep stuff. So it's not like you're playing a 771 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: heavy man demand deal where you're gonna have more. 772 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: Options down the field. 773 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: So I think from what I can tell, again based 774 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: on their offseason moves, when I'm seeing it in camp. 775 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: It seems like a lot of your evaluation with how 776 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: they have to play in order to try to win games. 777 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: I think they agree with it based on how I 778 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: see them going about their business, and we'll just see 779 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: if they can do it. 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I 789 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: think you're gonna find a lot of information in there, 790 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 2: make it work well worth your while. 791 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: The information is great. Warren, thank you so much for 792 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: the time. 793 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: We're about to get going on our little six month 794 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: sprint here to the end of the NFL season. Enjoy it, 795 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 3: my friend, and we'll talk to you down the road. 796 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: Thanks. 797 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 3: Sean warrenshop joined us in the Giants on the podcast 798 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 3: brought to you by Citizens the official bank of the Giants. 799 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody