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Speaker 1: Let's Go part of the Giants podcast network. Paulatino with

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Speaker 1: you on the rapid reaction Giants Huddle following their loss

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Speaker 1: to the Detroit Lions here at MetLife Stadium by the

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Speaker 1: final count of thirty one to eight, team joined by

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Amanti Tumor. And as always, you can

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Speaker 1: Almany very disappointing performance by the Giants today. Um, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where it starts, but I do know this.

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Speaker 1: They've got a lot of guys dropping off of this roster.

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Speaker 1: Next man up can only take you so far, and

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Speaker 1: they do have a game on Thursday in Dallas with

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Speaker 1: this roster being heavily depleted. Yeah, it was. My overarching

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Speaker 1: impression was early on the there was two teams out there.

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Speaker 1: One team looked very cold and looked like they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to be out there, and the other team was

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Speaker 1: they weren't. It didn't seem that there. They're probably prepared mentally,

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Speaker 1: but not mentally for the conditions and for the team

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Speaker 1: that was coming in desperate to try and make their

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Speaker 1: season UM relevant. And now at four and uh four

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Speaker 1: in their division end in the NFC, with a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks left, playing good football, winning three games in

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Speaker 1: a row. We saw two stats that will usually come

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Speaker 1: back and bite you bite the Giants today eight penalties

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Speaker 1: for over sixty yards and three turnovers, no takeaways. It's

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Speaker 1: awfully hard to win a game when those numbers pop

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Speaker 1: up on the board. Yeah, the takeaways were there to

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Speaker 1: be had. There was a couple of dropped interceptions that

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Speaker 1: change games and those types of things that that the

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Speaker 1: Lions got today and the Giants didn't have. And when

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Speaker 1: you look at the situation, um, these teams are evenly

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Speaker 1: matched despite the record, and you're not gonna beat many

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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL giving up three turnovers. Coach Coffins

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Speaker 1: always drill home the fact that you cannot win I

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Speaker 1: mean he lose the turnover battle and expect to win

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Speaker 1: a game consistently. This time they lost the turnover battle

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Speaker 1: just the same as they did in Seattle, and those

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Speaker 1: are the games that this team is lost this season,

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Speaker 1: and when they lost the turn battle two um to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys earlier in the year. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: fact that sometimes the other team just makes more plays,

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Speaker 1: and the Lions made a lot more place today. It started.

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Speaker 1: I thought when Hutchinson came up with that interception on

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Speaker 1: turned that into a touchdown and Detroit takes a ten

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Speaker 1: was a great play by Hutchinson. Um, if you're a

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Speaker 1: One of the things that defenses try to do is

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Speaker 1: But veteran quarterbacks even you know, always well, well, those

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Speaker 1: especially because that interception led directly to points because it

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Speaker 1: I thought the snowball started downhill because on the Lions

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Speaker 1: And then and one Dale gets hurt, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I know you never played on Thanksgiving while you were

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Speaker 1: I was talking to the players just now in the

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Speaker 1: It's very easy. It's very easy because it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're watching a horror movie, you know you cover

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Speaker 1: I would say, okay, coach, let's go over some of

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna come out and play like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is how we should play. Maybe we're not

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Speaker 1: and you have a Sometimes when you have a situation

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Speaker 1: this game. You go down to Dallason win and that's

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Speaker 1: But until that happens, um I, I hope they and

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Speaker 1: I and I and I have a very strong feeling

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Speaker 1: season that you're embarrassed, as you should be. And when

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Speaker 1: want another opportunity to make it right. Marty Tumor, thanks

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Speaker 1: for the time, enjoy your turkey. Thank you. That is

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Speaker 1: the rapid reaction Giants huddle following their thirty eight teen

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Speaker 1: lost at My Life Stadium to the Detroit Lions. You

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