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Speaker 1: Oh, good times, done time, good afternoon, and welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo Bills training Camp. We're in our broadcast location

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Speaker 1: at Saint John Fisher College, the Pelocanno Pavilion, on a

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Speaker 1: beautiful hot day in Pittsburgh, New York. John Murphy Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker ready to start a new week with a couple

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Speaker 1: of shows here and a couple of shows there, meaning

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park. It is. It is really highly hot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was eighty five out on the field. It felt

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Speaker 1: much hotter than that. Uh, and it's gonna get hotter

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Speaker 1: the shade. It's gonna get hotter this afternoon. I think

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Speaker 1: over the next three hours of the show here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be all right, though, I mean it's uh, got

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Speaker 1: some guests coming on. It'll be fun. But by the

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Speaker 1: same token, it it's really weird because I'm used to

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Speaker 1: having teams practice in the afternoon and now they're doing

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Speaker 1: it in the morning for good reason. And once the

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Speaker 1: practice is over, man, this turns into a ghost town.

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Speaker 1: It's just you and me and nobody else. It's all right,

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Speaker 1: We got enough to talk about, right, got a weekend

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Speaker 1: to talk about we got practice there to talk about

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Speaker 1: and a trade to talk about. He did it again.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean did it against even the middle of training

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Speaker 1: camp with two weeks ago. In training camp last year,

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Speaker 1: he did it about the same time, a trade involving

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. Again, the bill's got Corey Coleman. I love

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Speaker 1: this move. Look, I don't know the Corey Coleman's gonna

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Speaker 1: I think. And I love the fact that there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of levels to it too. Murph Cousin and Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean was asked about this this morning, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the question is is it because all the guys in

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Speaker 1: And I don't. He said, no, No, it's not it.

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Speaker 1: He goes, you know, you're trying to get better. And

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Speaker 1: Coleman is a guy with first round physical talent, which

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Speaker 1: means he's going to stand out physically when you get

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Speaker 1: him lined up with these guys. It's gonna show why

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Speaker 1: he was drafted in the first round. And that's the

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Speaker 1: fun part about this trade. You know there's an upside. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He had some hand injuries in Cleveland that kept him

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Speaker 1: and the guy's really fast. Uh, and he's getting a

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Speaker 1: fresh start. Um. Now, there's been some criticism of him

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, as you might imagine, but uh, a seventh

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Speaker 1: round draft pick in twenty almost there's not It's not

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Speaker 1: quite the Skinner trade for the Sabers, but it was

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Speaker 1: really worth making talk about that. It's been calling. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know our friend that's on here every once in a

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Speaker 1: a while, Andrew Brand, He said, this is a ham

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Speaker 1: sandwich trade here. What does that mean? I don't know

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Speaker 1: what you mean. Well, you're you're giving up a ham

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's possibly possibly. I love the trade.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it in a couple of minutes here,

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Speaker 1: and we got some Brandon being sound from a news

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Speaker 1: conference he held this morning to talk about the trade.

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Speaker 1: Also on the show today, Micah Hide's going to join

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Speaker 1: us in the one o'clock hour, Builds veteran safety going

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Speaker 1: into a six year got a lot to say about

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Speaker 1: the culture of this team where they're at right now,

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Speaker 1: and about the defensive backfield. Chris Brown's going to join

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Speaker 1: us in the one o'clock hour. Bills Insider Buffalo bills

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Speaker 1: dot Com and our buddy Kim Jones of NFL Network

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Speaker 1: is scheduled to join us in the two o'clock hour.

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Speaker 1: She's here covering Camp Pigs. Good day. She's working though

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Speaker 1: we may not able to fit she may not be

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Speaker 1: gonna bet a dollar. She was our I think she's

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Speaker 1: gonna get too busy. I'll bet you a dollar right now.

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Speaker 1: I bet she comes. We just did bet a dollar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if if I win, you're gonna pay. If if

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Speaker 1: at two o'clock. All right. Steve is here after his

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Speaker 1: big weekend. Perhaps you saw it or heard about it.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it on the show last week. This man,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, seventh time Pro Bowl performer, a special teamer,

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Speaker 1: went to another professional sport over the weekend. Steve drove

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Speaker 1: what a great weekend for you. It was pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: Listen a lot of a lot of listeners. I've probably

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Speaker 1: the Bills saying goodbye to Sammy Wadkins, Marcel Darius, you know,

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Speaker 1: and Reggie Ragland, guys like that. So it'll be really

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Speaker 1: interesting to see what he thinks of himself when he

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Speaker 1: comes to Buffalo. And I think that's the crucial question.

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Speaker 1: What I mean by that is is he going to

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Speaker 1: treat this as a wake up call? And if he does,

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Speaker 1: it could turn out extremely well for Buffalo. And if not, hey,

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Speaker 1: it was I think haven't thrown pick three. It's worth

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Speaker 1: years from now, it's worth it. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you think about it. The phone line's open eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty and toll three one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. The guy who made the trade,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, talked to the media before practice today about

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Speaker 1: the trade and Brandon Bean was asked why Corey Coleman.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. Um, you know Corey,

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Speaker 1: he speed. I remember scout him in college. We actually

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Speaker 1: did a private with him, and so I got to

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Speaker 1: know him a little bit and you know his makeup

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Speaker 1: and all that, and just you know, it hadn't worked

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Speaker 1: out in Cleveland, probably the way he thought when he

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Speaker 1: was drafted, or the way they thought when they drafted

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Speaker 1: him in the first round. So it's a fresh start

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Speaker 1: for him to come in here and compete. He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna automatically get anything. He's gonna come in here and compete.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I told him on the phone last night.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get him in here today. He still has

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Speaker 1: to passive physical though, guys, before the trade is finalized. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the physical probably going on any minute now. Actually, Corey

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Speaker 1: Coleman was scheduled to get here from Cleveland to training

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Speaker 1: camp this morning, gonna do a physical, probably being meetings

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, and we'll probably see him on the field tomorrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it by you know, you don't ye low risk, okay,

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Speaker 1: seventh round pick, but high high potential. Here Steve a

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Speaker 1: guy who is great speed, tremendous college career at Baylor,

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Speaker 1: fifteenth overall pick in the first round. Look, he's got

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Speaker 1: the skills the teams look for a wide receiver, and

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Speaker 1: I think what you hope for with a change of

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Speaker 1: scenery is a change you would think in his attitude

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Speaker 1: and his approach to the game. That's what you're talking about, right.

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Speaker 1: You want to see if this guy understands what happened here,

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Speaker 1: why it didn't work out in Cleveland. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say this as his last chance, but it certainly

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Speaker 1: is another, you know, notch on the wall. I mean,

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Speaker 1: where are you gonna go if it doesn't work out

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo? You know where you're gonna go. It's exactly right,

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Speaker 1: And you get him at the time when there's still

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Speaker 1: some hope for his career to be as erected where

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Speaker 1: it that they can get a fresh start. You don't forget,

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Speaker 1: you know, Hugh Jackson, it's the same head coach certainly

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Speaker 1: a new regime and they've moved on a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: They still have Josh Gordon, which I think is a

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Speaker 1: huge question mark. But the fact that you know that

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Speaker 1: they're keeping Josh Gordon on that roster because when when

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Speaker 1: Josh Gordon plays, he's an outstanding player. Corey Coleman was

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Speaker 1: not that outstanding. And I think that's where you get

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Speaker 1: into a heart worth. Jarvis Landry being parachuted in and

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Speaker 1: whoever else they have on their roster in Cleveland, That'll

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Speaker 1: tell you about a lot about why he's available. But

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Speaker 1: there's no question when you talk about measurables, which is

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Speaker 1: always what the first round is all about. This guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna have him. He's gonna show up, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: stand out physically, just like Josh Allen stands out with

484
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, just like Tremaine Edmonds stands out so and

485
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Speaker 1: other first rounds of the Bills have seen over the years. Physically,

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Speaker 1: Marcel Darius stood out. That's what the kind of athletes

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get with Corey Coleman. And I think this

488
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Speaker 1: being is this first big fork in the road for

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Speaker 1: his career. I think you can hold out a little

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Speaker 1: or hope other than rather than the fact that I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about this, what are the chief I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs really think that Sammy Watkins is going to

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Speaker 1: be their answer after he's been with Buffalo, then he

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Speaker 1: went to LA and then La let him, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well it's it's kind of similar. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they do. Sammy's young enough, right, it's his thirdeen, it's

497
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Speaker 1: his third team, yep. And now they paid him a lot,

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Speaker 1: but La was paid, handing money out like it was

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Speaker 1: candy corn. Yeah, and they didn't keep him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think so, you know, I think there's a question

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Speaker 1: mark there. The Bills I think are in a better

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Speaker 1: spot in this scenario. I don't know. We'll see. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be a really interesting to see watch how

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Speaker 1: he developed. Twenty four years old, so there's plenty of

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Speaker 1: time for him to resurrect his career and have a

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Speaker 1: productive NFL career. But you would think, and you know,

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Speaker 1: from the Bills standpoint, you would hope that that the

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Speaker 1: resurrection begins today. We want to know what you think.

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Speaker 1: That's our Twitter question today. Following the Corey Colment trade,

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Speaker 1: are you now more comfortable with the Bills receiving group

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Speaker 1: heading into the season. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: You can go to Twitter at one bills Live. Let

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Speaker 1: us not what you think, or give us a call.

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Speaker 1: We got phone lines open eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty year toll free one eight eight eight by fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty from outside Buffalo. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of the Corey Coleman trade? Do you feel better? We

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Speaker 1: did a Twitter poll last week. I want to say

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Speaker 1: it was last week. I think it was last week

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Speaker 1: about who's the number two, Who's gonna be second and receiving?

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna be you know what you might? I might

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Speaker 1: choose Corey Coleman is my pick now to be second

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Speaker 1: and receiving among receivers. That would have been another, that

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Speaker 1: would have been other last week. But see that's why

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Speaker 1: we put that in there. If we did the poll today,

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Speaker 1: I would put Corey Coleman on the list of choices

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Speaker 1: though I would And by the way, Zay Jones is

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Speaker 1: back getting practice work today. He comes up and on

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Speaker 1: football injury list. Still in new days. He's still in

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Speaker 1: a red jersey, so he's not really taking one on

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Speaker 1: one and stuff. He's going through individuals. He's starting to

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Speaker 1: work back into the lineup, and you know that this

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Speaker 1: is you know, this doesn't go unnoticed in the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room. There's probably some some tight stomachs in the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver room knowing that now they have fourteen guys

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Speaker 1: in the roster. That's right, Okay, now they still have

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Speaker 1: thirteen guys, so it's you know, but look, guys were

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Speaker 1: talking about last week. I was thinking about this watching

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Speaker 1: practice today. The guys we were talking about last week

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Speaker 1: is candidates to be the number two, including Zay Jones,

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Speaker 1: including Brandon Riley, Rod Streeter. Um. This trade gets their attention, right,

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Speaker 1: Guys who thought last week, maybe three or four days ago,

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Speaker 1: Guys who thought they get a chance to maybe play

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Speaker 1: a little bit this year, Right now they look at

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Speaker 1: the trade and say, hey, I'm gonna have to work

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Speaker 1: to get a chance to play a little bit this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does change the dynamic. There's no question about it then,

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Speaker 1: And we're already getting feedback on it from Joshua. He says,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't change anything to me that the Corey Coleman trade.

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Speaker 1: He's an unknown commodity. Will he stay healthy, will he

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback that gets the ball out on time?

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Speaker 1: The only thing that will make me feel better about

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers is the quarterback. Wide receivers other than

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Speaker 1: the top guys are like running backs, interchange I disagree

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Speaker 1: with that. I don't know if I don't go along

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Speaker 1: with all of that. They're not all interchangeable. But I

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Speaker 1: do know that the quarterback does make a lot of

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Speaker 1: different huge difference. And but you gotta have you know,

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Speaker 1: we struggled last week to come up with you know,

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Speaker 1: who's the number two is going to be number two

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Speaker 1: and receptions on this team because nothing had presented itself

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Speaker 1: through the first week at training camp. Right, We're like,

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Speaker 1: I guess it could be Brandon Riley. I guess it

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Speaker 1: could be this guy, or that could be Robert Foster,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Riley. I mean, yeah, we're looking at undrafted. A

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Speaker 1: week ago, we're wondering whether undrafted rookie free agents Cam Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Robert Foster could somehow make a difference at wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Well you have to that's a little bit less of

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Speaker 1: a likelihood now with um Corey Coleman on the roster,

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Speaker 1: a little bit less. I think we'll see what love Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I and I too, going back to what Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean was talking about he does have to pass the

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Speaker 1: physical for this to be finalized. But I mean he

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Speaker 1: was in training camp with the Browns. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't I think that's a formality. Yeah, but it is

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Speaker 1: still out there, so he's gonna pass. All right, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna read some of your tweets. We'd love to talk

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Speaker 1: to you on the telephone line. Your thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: Corey Coleman trade. Does it change the way you look

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Speaker 1: at the Bill's wide receiver? Core? It should? I think

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Speaker 1: it should. But let us know your thoughts. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call. Lines open eight oh three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your phone calls, read some of your

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Speaker 1: tweets when we come back. We'll also talk about today's practice.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I have observations. We both watched morning practice week.

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Speaker 1: We stood on opposite sides of the field for a

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Speaker 1: long time today to watch, and I think that's good.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to be with you during

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Speaker 1: It's not. It's not because you know that I had

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Speaker 1: some friends that we're here. I want to Oh, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: don't even want to stand with you because I had

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Speaker 1: friends here. Yeah, I want to seclude you from We're

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Speaker 1: back in the morning a moment. Steve Tasker and I

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Speaker 1: just getting rolled in a training camp One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: back to the big show we call it One Goes Live.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker in our set up here

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Speaker 1: at Bills Training Camp were until three o'clock today. Was

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Speaker 1: a good show. Kim Jones from NFL Net is gonna

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Speaker 1: join us, Micah Hi gonna join us in the next

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Speaker 1: couple of hours as well. Thanks for thanks to you

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Speaker 1: for joining us today. Hot muggy day here at Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: New York. But that's okay. Bill's practice is over. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to their afternoon meetings here in a little

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Speaker 1: bit and then have their walkthrough. I think what five

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Speaker 1: or six were usually long gone by them walk through.

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Speaker 1: We are not going to be here for the little

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Speaker 1: walkthroughs are walkthroughs. A call from Carl in Clarence on

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Speaker 1: the Corey Coleman Trade. Carl, go ahead, you're on the

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Speaker 1: air of this, Yeah, how you're doing. I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: encouraged by it. Like I say, if you settled down

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Speaker 1: and flies right here, I think they'll be fine. And

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Speaker 1: I kind of agree with Steve or I think a

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Speaker 1: few great receivers in the league, but I think pretty

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Speaker 1: much everybody else is interchangeable. These guys were the best

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Speaker 1: in high school, the best in college. Uh yeah, is

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Speaker 1: it that hard to catch a ball on a slant

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Speaker 1: and just keep it? Even if you just you don't

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Speaker 1: get a lot of hours afterwards. But the best of

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Speaker 1: the best of the best in the world, Steve, is

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Speaker 1: that your contention. Wide receivers are interchangeable. You're a former

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I'll tell you what. They are more interchangeable

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Speaker 1: than quarterbacks, that's for sure, question. I mean, that's I've

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Speaker 1: always said. I've been harping on this all through this

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Speaker 1: last offseason up leading up to the draft. The quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: make the receiving cord. And if if if you drop down,

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Speaker 1: and here's the story too, I mean, if you drop

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Speaker 1: a three year old offense into the you know, the

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Speaker 1: Bills are in a brand, they're like a five month

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Speaker 1: old offense, right, I mean, so you get these one

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Speaker 1: of the things is a quarterback like Tom Brady, like

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, uh Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger. These offenses have

635
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Speaker 1: been in place with these quarterbacks for a long long time.

636
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Speaker 1: Um that goes a long way towards having a quarterback

637
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Speaker 1: that can you know, in those quarterbacks, they get the

638
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: ball to the guy. The offense is in place, and

639
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: it's you know, you can catch those guys up to

640
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: speed and they do become more interchangeable when you're just

641
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: installing an offense. And they got thirteen guys in the room.

642
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. They don't know what this offense or

643
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: this quarterback crew needs from their wide receiver course, so

644
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: they need guys that, you know, they got to find

645
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Speaker 1: out who has a skill set that these quarterbacks I

646
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: can start throwing the football too. And that's why I think,

647
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's the quarterbacks that make these guys. And

648
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: I got to agree with the caller a little bit,

649
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, more athleticisms better, and Corey Coleman certainly brings

650
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Speaker 1: that to the table. So we'll see if it if

651
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Speaker 1: it does make him, but certainly you got to be

652
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Speaker 1: encouraged about the potential because that is definitely better than

653
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Speaker 1: it was a week again. Yeah, look, I don't think

654
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean really, no players are interchangeable. There's a difference

655
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Speaker 1: in the way players play, I mean, different qualities, different traits.

656
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Speaker 1: But to have an athletic, fast receiver, I mean, what

657
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: are you gonna Are you telling me that a receiver

658
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Speaker 1: like Corey Coleman, who has been clocked at four three

659
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: seven and the forty yard datch is interchangeable with Brandon Riley.

660
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: No one of them is a threat to get deep

661
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: and the other one isn't you know really, And that

662
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: makes a difference when you're setting up your defense. And

663
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You don't see those running those receivers

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Speaker 1: running the same routes in the same offense at the

665
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: same time, so against the same defensive back. Yeah, so

666
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: there's all this stuff that gets thrown into it. Plus

667
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: a coaching staff is not going to call the route

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Speaker 1: for Corey Coleman that he will call for Brandon Riley.

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Speaker 1: That's where we're at. He could open up speak like that,

670
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: opens up a whole nude page of your offense. Really

671
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet from Casey and Tony. And when

672
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Speaker 1: we ask you, are you more comfortable now with the

673
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Bills receiving picture with the addition to Corey Coleman. Casey

674
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: and Tony tweet and excited, absolutely comfortable. No way, Well,

675
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: I guess that's fair. Yeah. I mean, look, there are

676
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: still some unknown quantities there, and Corey Coleman is among them. Right,

677
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: He's unknown his approach. I mean, he just got traded

678
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Speaker 1: away for a seventh rounder from the worst team in

679
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Speaker 1: the league for the last few years of winless Cleveland

680
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: Browns team. So does he make you comfortable? I get

681
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't, but there the potential, I think is

682
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: what gets me excited, the potential that Corey Coleman could

683
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: come in here and provide the dimension that they lacked

684
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: at the receiving spot. We've talked to Brandon being on

685
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: this too, and one of the things that I always

686
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: get back to eventually when I talk about these trades

687
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: and where they happen. Like you said earlier, Murphy, it

688
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: was unexpected. I mean, nobody it was on the radar.

689
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: We didn't get any heads up or any they it's

690
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, reassuring or it's a reminder that they don't.

691
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott. They don't sleep, and

692
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: they don't mind making moves like this. You got to

693
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: know that wherever you're sitting there, you know, having a

694
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: beer with your buddies at the bar, talking about the

695
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Bills and stuff that, and you talk about it that

696
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: we say get this guy or that guy, or this

697
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: guy or that guy. The Bills have already inquired about him,

698
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: and having the trade like this happened means that, you know,

699
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Browns were banging or calling

700
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: around the league or whatever trying to make this happen.

701
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean said they had conversation of this involving these

702
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: players month for months while laying up to the draft.

703
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are always talking about it. So

704
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman's name came up in the spring as a

705
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Speaker 1: potential trade target for the Bills. And so today when

706
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Speaker 1: we're sitting there in news conference with the with Brandon Bean,

707
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, now is this dialogue? Is

708
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Speaker 1: this trade an extension of the dialogue you have with

709
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: them months ago or is this brand new? And he said,

710
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: we kind of picked it up again the last couple

711
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: of days. We talked back in the spring about Corey Coleman,

712
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: and they picked it up again. And this I think, Look,

713
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call Brandon being a genius, but what

714
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: I like about him is that he's persistent in these cases.

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Speaker 1: You know, whether it's acquiring Corey Coleman or even Marcel

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00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Darius last year. You know, it kind of lays the groundwork.

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Speaker 1: And wait, so they didn't make a trade for Corey

718
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Coleman back in the spring. They drafted two receivers in

719
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: the late rounds of the draft. Okay, they get the camp.

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Speaker 1: Let's call Browns again and see where they are with

721
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman. The right, the Browns have Jarvis Landry, and

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00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: you know that Brandon mean made a mental note when

723
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: they acquired Jarvis Landry. Okay, maybe now they're willing to

724
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: part with Corey Coleman. And then the Browns are gonna

725
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: get Josh Gordon back sooner rather than later, sometime maybe

726
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. And for a guy

727
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: like Brandon Bean whose job it is to keep tracking

728
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: that stuff, that's like a little door opening, you know.

729
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: And it's like, now I'm gonna call him again and

730
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: see what the price is for Corey Coleman and where

731
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Speaker 1: they are with Corey Coleman. Yeah, that's what I like

732
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: about Brandon Bean. You know, it's like he's never asleep.

733
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, you might think he's here, He's got his

734
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: ninety players here. This is our group. Marve used to

735
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: say it, we're going to camp with our team. Well,

736
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: that's not the way they do it anymore. That's not

737
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: the way the Buffalo Bills do it right. And and

738
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: he's I don't know how to put it except he's

739
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: courageously patient. Yeah. I mean, now you get Corey Coleman,

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00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: and you waited a couple of months on it, and

741
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: not worrying about if Corey Coleman went to the Denver Broncos. Right,

742
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, you don't care if that happened. If they

743
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: traded a seventh round pick in twenty nineteen, is to

744
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty for Corey Coleman. You're waiting your turn.

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00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: You waited when you got a J. McCarron, who who

746
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: could be your opening day starter. He was on the

747
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: street for two weeks after he got his release from Cincinnati.

748
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: Now some of that was his representation, and they were

749
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: waiting on a spot for him, and they didn't want

750
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Speaker 1: to go to someplace where he wasn't going to be

751
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: given a chance to compete. So, I mean aj McCarn

752
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: waited for two weeks voluntarily, but nevertheless the Bills weren't,

753
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, jumping way up banging his door down. They waited,

754
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: and they got him for their price at the right spot.

755
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: And they did the same thing with this Corey Coleman trade.

756
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: It seems like they where they had conversation about a

757
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: month or two ago and then just sat back and waited.

758
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: Not only are they not asleep at the wheel knowing

759
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: that all these players are going to come available in

760
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: a couple of months and all that, but they're scouring it.

761
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going back to rehash conversations they've already had,

762
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: and it seems like they've got a pulse on who

763
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: around the league, not just in Cleveland, but who around

764
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: the league is available. What's your take on this? Give

765
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three fifty or toll free

766
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or

767
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: participate on Twitter. When we asked the question, does the

768
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: acquisition of Corey Coleman make him more comfortable with the

769
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Bills receiving corps A tweet from Dougie Briggs. I really

770
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: liked the potential he holds. I remember a couple of

771
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: years ago we traded for a man named Jerry Hughes

772
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 1: for Calvin Sheppard. Now, now we've traded a twenty twenty

773
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: seventh for a former first round receiver. Would be amazing

774
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: to get a great receiver who simply needed a fresh start,

775
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: it would be amazing. It'd be a steel Corey Coleman

776
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: comes in and look, I'm not anticipating greatness here, but

777
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: I am anticipating a solid candidate for the number two

778
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: spot behind Calvin Benjamin. I think that's realistic, and quite frankly,

779
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the way the Bills are thinking.

780
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: Let's get this guy in here, with his speed and

781
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: his potential. He's not a rookie. He's caught what twenty

782
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: and thirty passes first two years, and he can be

783
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: our number two. That's exactly right, And another twitter comes out.

784
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: Frank Barber says, not saying that Corey Coleman's going to

785
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: be successful or be this successful, but Eric Moles had

786
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: a very slow start to his career and ended up

787
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: just short of ten thousand yards. It's a fantastic move

788
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: with little risk. He's the deep threat that we desperately lacked.

789
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: Well done, Brandon Bean. That's what makes this so intriguing. Now,

790
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: we gave Eric Moulds the first round draft pick, well,

791
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: so was Corey Coleman. We only gave up a seventh

792
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: round two years down the line. That's the reason that

793
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: this is Okay, imagine if what was that back in

794
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: two thousand, two thousand and one, if the Bills would

795
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: have traded away a disappointing first round receiver Eric Moulds

796
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: for a seventh rounder and Eric Moulds went on to

797
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: play the way he did for that team. However, that's

798
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: the that's the best case scenario. Yeah, you're looking at

799
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: But imagine if that would happened, we'd be you know,

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00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: you'd be killing yourself. Yeah, we traded away that guy,

801
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: Eric Moulds for a seventh rounder, Right, Yeah, I guess

802
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: you know that. You're right. That's the best case for

803
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: the Bills that he becomes that caliber receiver. I don't

804
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: know that he will be you know, fifteen, Imagine it'll

805
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: be somewhere in between. Yeah, he's not gonna he's not. Well,

806
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: it's impossible to predict injuries, but he's not gonna struggle.

807
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: If he doesn't struggle with injuries, at least he's gonna

808
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: be available. And he if he is available, he's gonna

809
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: be hard to keep off the field because of his

810
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: athletic ability. And uh, that's that's basically what you're looking

811
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: at with with Corey Coleman. He's he's an upgrade athletically

812
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: and ability wise. He's a he's absolutely strict fast as

813
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: as anybody's going to be on the field. He's going

814
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: to be as fast as they are. Um, the Bills

815
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: need a guy like that on their roster. They've got

816
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Robert Foster, who is also one of those very fast guys,

817
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: but he was an undrafted free agent. So uh, you know,

818
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: it's hard not to see the the um, the upside

819
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: for this trade and the logic behind it, and it's

820
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: and it makes it And Brandon Bean was asked just

821
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: that this today and they said, it's just kind of

822
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: a cheap roll of the dime. He's exactly right as cheap. Yeah,

823
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: health could be a concern. The guy Corey Coleman with

824
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: hand injury in each of his first two years nine

825
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: games played last year ten games, played his rookie year

826
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: two years ago, and Brandon Bean was asked about that,

827
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: and general manager of the Bills at his morning news

828
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: confer today said, yes, he said, health injuries in the past,

829
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: but the Bills are hoping that Corey Coleman is healthy. Now. Yeah,

830
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: that's what you hope you know. Uh, yeah, he had

831
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: He has had a hand injury a couple of times

832
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: and has not played you know, sixteen game season yet

833
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: in two years. So again, I don't know all what

834
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: went right or wrong there. They got a new regime

835
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: with John Dorsey, and you know, they've made some changes

836
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: to their roster since since John got there in January.

837
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: And this opportunity came available and decided to take a

838
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: shot here in Buffalo. Taking a shot. That's what he does.

839
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Speaker 1: He does a good job of it, I think, Brandon Bean,

840
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: all right, we got a break here, We're gonna come

841
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: back talk more about Corey Coleman. You're welcome to join

842
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: that conversation. Folllights opened at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty and toll Free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty in a brief recap of Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame Weekend Down and Canton Ohio, Steve, and I'll talk

846
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Speaker 1: about that when we return one Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Come Out of Health from Bill's Training Camp and this

848
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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Fucking back down Murphy, Steve Tasker.

849
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: It's hot today, Steve, come out, keep the energy going. Wow, Man,

850
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: I need a nap. It's really hot and Steve taking nap. Yeah,

851
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: we should get one of those. We gotta. We gotta

852
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: start laying the ground work to get in one of

853
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: those napping pods. I heard you were talking to the

854
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: sports and those float pods too. The float pod sounds

855
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: more intriguing. Yeah, how deep it is? Well, it's big,

856
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: he said, it was like a foot foot and a half. Yeah,

857
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: so you can stand in it. You just kind of

858
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: get down to layout and you do you stay afloat. Yeah,

859
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: I gotta see that. We gotta do part of the

860
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Speaker 1: new performances that I've got to do that. Welcome back

861
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: to training camp. Corey Coleman. We talked a lot about that.

862
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what you think about the trade for

863
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman. How much improved the Bills receiving corps. Are

864
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: you comfortable now with the Bills receiving corps. Maybe you're

865
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Speaker 1: not give us a call lines open eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty Steve. While we were galivanning

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, the business of pro football was very

869
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: serious down in Canton, Ohio, where the Pro Football Hall

870
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: of Fame held its annual induction ceremony. The game was

871
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: last Thursday. Obviously, the induction was Saturday, and there was

872
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: a contingent of Buffalo Bills folks who went down there

873
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: for Brian Dawkins, the former Eagles safety. Bill's head coach,

874
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, defense coordinator Leslie Frazier, quarterbacks coach Cully and

875
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: our offensive line coach One Castillo and Derek Boyko. Maybe

876
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: relations jumped on a plane flew down to Canton on

877
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: Saturday to see their buddy, Brian Dawkins. Did you know

878
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: Brian Dawkins will but not apparently he was. When I

879
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: hear people describe Brian Dawkins and the impact he had

880
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: on the Eagles back then, he kind of people talk

881
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: about him there like they talk about Kyle Williams here,

882
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Kind of a guy who, yeah, yeah,

883
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't know Brian Dawkins, but the Bill's brain trust

884
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: did and does, and they went down there. I think

885
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: it speaks a lot to uh, you know, what they

886
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: think of him going down there. You know, I think

887
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: he did affect him. I think they do realize he

888
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: was a great player and going down there and it

889
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: wasn't like they took the players down just to like

890
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: give him a sniff of what it would be like

891
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: in the motivation and they had the player. I think

892
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: the coaching staff they went down there because they had

893
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for him, and there was a

894
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: they put out a couple of pictures. They got a

895
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: chance to go and say hi and meet with him,

896
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: take some pictures with him, and let him know that

897
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: they were with him. And it was I think it

898
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: says a lot about about Brian Dawkins that that the

899
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill staff was ready to go down there, Um,

900
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: spend a few hours down there and come back. Um

901
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: another I guess Buffalo interest. Bob Babbitt whose the Bills

902
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: linebackers coach. He's been part of the staff for a

903
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: couple of years. We had him on the show back

904
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Speaker 1: in the late spring, early summer. He was the official

905
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: presenter for Chicago Bears. Former linebacker Brian Urlacher, went in

906
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, helped him put on his gold

907
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: jacket on Friday at the event on Friday they have

908
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: in Kenton, Ohio. And then of course he was on

909
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: video to present Brian Urlacher. And that says a lot.

910
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the connection between those two. But I mean,

911
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: have you thought if you I know, here we go

912
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: talking about Stephen the Hall of Fame. Who you choose

913
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: as your presenter is an amazing honor, right, have you

914
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: ever thought about who you might have? I have no,

915
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: I have never thought about I haven't really thought about it.

916
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: You've talked. I guarantee you've come up. I guarantee you've

917
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: come like. It'd be the same as the other guys

918
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: probably right now would probably be Marv was okay, right,

919
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: that would make sense. I mean I was. I mean, see,

920
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: now you got me talking. You don't want to talk

921
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: about all. I don't want to talk about it. It's

922
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: hypothetical irrelevancies. Well, Bob Babbitt, Bill's linebackers coach, did it

923
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: for Brian Erlacker, And I would imagine for coach Bob Babbitt,

924
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: who does a great job with the Buffalo linebackers. That

925
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: would be maybe not the crowning achievement of his career,

926
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: but certainly memorable. Right, here's this Hall of Famer who

927
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: chose me, me his coach at Chicago to present him

928
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: for the Absolutely I think it is. I think it's

929
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: a real gift. And I think the Hall of Fame

930
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: guys who get in, I think they realize that what

931
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: a gift it is, and and they treated and say, yeah,

932
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: family members, people who aren't even connected with football who

933
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: have done it. It's and I think it's kind of

934
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: cool that the Hall of Fame does that as well.

935
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: I think because he wouldn't. You know, Usually when you

936
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: get any kind of award, it's an MC at the

937
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: at a banquet and they just walk they walk up

938
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: and they give it to you. But to have somebody

939
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: who has been instrumental in your success do that is

940
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a great, great aspect of the Hall

941
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: of Fame that sometimes it gets overlooked. Um, did you

942
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: you were busy Saturday? I was too. I didn't listen

943
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: to most, if not all, of ray Lewis speech. Um,

944
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: he went on and on and on thirty three minutes

945
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: almost broke the record. They're supposed to go ten. He

946
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: went thirty three, which I do think is um he

947
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: was the last one. He was the last one. He

948
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: went with a wireless two. He could prance around the

949
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: stage to his dance lecture. I just he didn't make

950
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: any sense to me, Steve. I'm not a ray Lewis fan.

951
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: I know he's a great player, just not a fan

952
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: of him or his his demeanor. Um. Yes, sure he

953
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: belongs in the Hall of Fame. But I listened to

954
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: his speech Saturday night and thought, get off the stage, man,

955
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: you're not. He wasn't making much sense, didn't have anything

956
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: to say, and he took thirty three minutes to say nothing.

957
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: You're looking at me with hate. I'm gonna know. I'm

958
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: gonna go back and look at it. No, don't go

959
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah he had he had to think about Um. Yeah,

960
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: and I agree, and there's but there have been some

961
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: phenomenal Hall of Fame speech. That was not one of them.

962
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, anybody tell you it was a great speech.

963
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: All Right, I won't. I'm gonna go back and look

964
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: at it. I'm gonna watch it and I'll give you

965
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 1: a critique. Probably not on the nonsense. Just he would

966
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: It was almost stream of consciousness. He'd see somebody and hey,

967
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: what about him? What about him? He say everything twice

968
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: we just come on. Now, I'm in the car driving.

969
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't watching, but I just thought that's not a

970
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: good speech. Finally, there you go. Point note, I'm a

971
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: hater on that topic. To did his own thing on

972
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: Saturday at his college down in Chattanooga, Tennessee, Carolans. Former

973
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill terre Loans in All of Fame elected not

974
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: to go. Steve and I wait in on that when

975
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: it was first announced, and Teo talked a lot, and

976
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: obviously he spoke for a while. They have a clip

977
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: from terra loan speech when he talked about how him

978
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: going in All of Fame is not about him, but

979
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: it's about his fans and the people who helped him

980
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: get there. Here's what terre Loans had to say Saturday

981
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: at his own private Hall of Fame induction ceremony. There's

982
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: been a lot of speculation and false reports as to

983
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: why I chose not to be there. I would like

984
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: to set the record straight. It's not because how many

985
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: times it took for me to be voting to the Hall.

986
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: It's about the mere fact that the sports writers are

987
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: not in alignment with the mission and core values of

988
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I am not a perfect man.

989
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: I've made a lot of mistakes. But that's what happens

990
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: when you start a professional football career. At twenty two

991
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: years old, I've gone through a lot. Albert Einstein said,

992
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: adversity introduces a man to himself. Now, at forty four

993
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: years old, I like who I've become. I'm a man

994
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: of conviction, a man of faith, a man of humility,

995
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: a man of character and integrity, a man of charisma

996
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: and discipline. I am a man of courage, courageous enough

997
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: to choose Chattanooga over Canton, not that courageous. Did he

998
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: just describe it? Did roll Owners describe himself as a

999
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: man of humility? Yes? He did? Okay, do you have

1000
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: any thoughts on Nancy? Yeah, I would question that, but yeah, yeah,

1001
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: that would do. Look, I don't understand this part. I

1002
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: don't know if he elaborated. I didn't listen to his

1003
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: speech at all except for that clip. Sports writers are

1004
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: not in aligned and aligned with the mission and core

1005
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: values of the Hall of Fame. What does he mean

1006
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: by that who does he want to vote people into

1007
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, other Hall of famers. Then it's

1008
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: like a friends and family club a little bit. I

1009
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: don't know who. You know, He's find a better way too,

1010
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: if you got a better solut It was not about

1011
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: him not getting in or how many times it took

1012
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: him to get in. And I don't believe that either.

1013
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what it's about. You don't seem

1014
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: like you feel like taking on TiO today, No, I don't.

1015
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: He's that guy. I think we best serve our listeners

1016
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: by ignoring him and acting you know, he's it is

1017
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: what it is. He made his decisions all through his career.

1018
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: Even in his speech there's about five things and that

1019
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: little clip there that I was I did roll my

1020
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: eyes at all. He says. You know, you make mistakes

1021
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: because you start. I started my career at twenty two.

1022
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: You know what everybody the guy does too. And they

1023
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: aren't jerks. You know, they aren't bad teammates, they aren't

1024
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: hateful cancers in their locker room. They don't do things

1025
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: that are disprespectful of their opponents, and they're in there

1026
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: in the game. Um, they don't do that throughout their

1027
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: entirety of their career. Um, and they started some of

1028
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: them started their careers younger. So you know, you don't

1029
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: get a break because now you're forty four and you

1030
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: say you made some mistakes. You you know, there's no there. Yeah.

1031
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: I don't sense any repentance or any change in him. Um.

1032
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: And the fact that he labels himself all the positive

1033
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: attributes that he listed there, that he labels himself at

1034
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: is absolutely the same fact that because nobody else would.

1035
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: Here's a call from Marking Buffalo on this issue. Marco ahead,

1036
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Yeah, Denyingo was one of the

1037
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: greatest wide receivers ever played the game. Well, you know,

1038
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: he answered his own question. It's in his whole speech.

1039
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: He said when someone the fan gel we love you

1040
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: or I love you t o, he said, I love

1041
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: you too, but I love me more. That explains everything. Yeah,

1042
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: going to Hall of Fame are those fans that bought

1043
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: a jury who cared for him. He has a right

1044
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: not to go, But he answered his own question when

1045
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: he yelled back, but I love me more. You're right, Yeah,

1046
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: it's not a question of rights. Of course, he has

1047
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: a right to do what he did, but it's a

1048
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: question of propriety. I don't think it was proper for

1049
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: him to snub the Hall of Famers. Everybody knows you

1050
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. I mean that we live

1051
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: in in the free country of the world. Um, but

1052
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: people forget that when you do anything you want, you

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Speaker 1: are responsible for the consequences. You're responsible for what people

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Speaker 1: think about you. You're responsible for, uh, the legacy that

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Speaker 1: you leave behind. And that's that you can't get out

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00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: of it once you've done it. I mean, your your

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00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: decisions and your actions carry weight. Yeah, and you have

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00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: to live with it. And if you don't like it

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00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: and you think everybody's hey, that's too bad. You you

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00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: lived your life that way. Now you're the person everybody

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00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: perceives you to be, and you can you can rail

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00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: against it, you can say you're misunderstood, you can say

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00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: all the things about it, you can label yourself as

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00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: many positive attributes as you want to. But the simple

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00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is nobody believes you. And your

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00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: life still is. Everything that you is, everything that everybody

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00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: thinks it is. It's not what you say it is.

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00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: It's everybody's perception seems to be right. On the money

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00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: and no matter how much you rail against it is

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00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: not going to change it. I know we're running late.

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00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: One more Hall of Fame call. I want to squeeze

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Speaker 1: in here, Charlie and Buffalo. Go ahead, Charlie, All right? John?

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00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: How old Steve? How you stealing this after? Now? Want

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00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: of them? Maybe makeup great? Jerry Kromer a premiere player

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00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: of this position. Me and you Muff had a chance

1076
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: to see him when we were kids growing up. Why

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00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 1: did it take fifty years for that man to get

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00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame? And do you have a

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00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: question I want to ask morph for Steves. Even with Thurman,

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00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: Thomas he played in the Air, Barry Sanders, Emma Smith,

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00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: Marcus Salon, all those guys were first time ballad but

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00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: Thurman was a second And uh, what did you think

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00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: about that one? Steve? And I'll hang up and take okay, yeah,

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00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean here's the thing though, even with Thurman was

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00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: a little bit like Teo. You knew he was gonna

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00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: get in, you know, you just knew he was gonna

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00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: get in. And he would have been nice to have

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00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: him be a first ballot Hall of Famer like Bruce

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00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: and Jim were Um, and it wasn't to be. But

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Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing that that happens. And I've

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00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: seen it happen before to a lot of guys. Chris Carter,

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00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I've seen it happen to. I've heard saw it happened to.

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00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: Let me think of another one. Um, I can't remember,

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00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember it. But but there was Tim Brown,

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00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: guys who were eliged. Maybe Tim Brown was a first

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00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: ballot guy. Andre had to right, Andrea had to wait. Um,

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00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: once you're in, you're in. Yeah. Yeah, And that's there's

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00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: not a different categories. There's no different category of a

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00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: guy that's a first ballot had Now, certainly it says

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00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: something about their career and and that, but once you're in,

1101
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: all that goes away. I saw it go away for Thurman,

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00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: I saw it go away for Andre and other guys

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00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: as well, who you know, didn't get in on their

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00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: first attempt. Once they're in, the gold jacket fits just

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00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: as nice. Yeah, and they don't. And certainly within the room, nobody,

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00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: nobody in those guys that wear those gold jackets, none

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00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: of them have anything but love and respect for each

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00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: other once they're in. Whether it took them five ties

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00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: to get in, or of twenty five years to get

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00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: in or forty years to get in like Jerry Kramer.

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: They love them just the same. All Right, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. Chris Brown, Bills inside of Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Stan anybody to join us, talk about the

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00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman trade, talk about training camp at the midway point,

1115
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: all of that coming up. Your calls are welcome for

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Speaker 1: Chris eight oh three oh five fifty and toll Free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, John Ropy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Won Bill's Live from Bill's training camp And

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00:53:43,719 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network stories

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Speaker 1: some date the update from training camp. Another hot day

1121
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: in the sun for the Bills at camp, temperatures in

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00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: the mid eighties. The Bills worked out this morning to

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00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher. Nathan Peterban got most of the first

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Speaker 1: team reps in today's workout. A. J. Mccarren with the twos,

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00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: Josh Allen with the third team. Atlant had a couple

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Speaker 1: of nice effortless passes in teamwork, one of them a

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00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: deep sideline passed the tight end Keith Towbridge and him

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Speaker 1: in stride. Defensive end Trent Murphy sideline again today with

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Speaker 1: his growing tightness. Wide receiver Camp Phillips was limited today

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Speaker 1: also with a growing Bills on the field Tomorrow morning

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00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: again eight forty five am. You do not need a

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00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: ticket to attend. We are three days away from the

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00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: preseason opener this Thursday, seven pm at New Airfield of

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00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: Rtshire Park the Bills and the Carolina Panthers. It remains

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00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: to be seeing whether the new Bills wide receiver Corey

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00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: Coleman will play in that game. The Bills acquired him

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Speaker 1: last night and the trade with the Cleveland Browns, the

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Speaker 1: Browns in exchange to get a seventh round pick in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Coleman, twenty four years old, fifteenth overall pick

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Speaker 1: in the two sixteen draft. The Bills released wide receiver

1141
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: Quon Brey last night, clear a roster spot for Corey Coleman.

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00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's agent has left the New York area with

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00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: no deal in place. After several face to face meetings

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00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: with the New York Giants last week, the agent and

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00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: the Giants, working to consummate a deal book could not

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: agree on Beckham's market value. The Giants value Beckham is

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00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: a total add a total average annual value below Chiefs

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00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver Sammy Watkins. Rookie Sam Darnold has a very

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00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: fair shot of winning the Jets Starny quarterback job. According

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00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: to ESPN, he has to keep progressing and the preseason

1151
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: will be critical for him. The architects of the Eagles

1152
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship team have earned extensive time extended time

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00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: of the franchise, the Eagles announcing yesterday that head coach

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00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Executive vice president of football Operations Howie

1155
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: Roseman have agreed to sign contract extension. Financial terms not disclosed.

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Speaker 1: And a day after hosting his own Pro Football Hall

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00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: of Fame induction ceremony, former wide receiver Terrell Owens worked

1158
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: out for the CFLs Saskatchewan What Rough Riders in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: And that's the update from Bill's training camp. Oh Timete

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Speaker 1: Casper touchdown touch down time. Welcome back to Bill's training camp.

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00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,959
Speaker 1: Jomerape seen cancer, joined by Bill's insider Chris Brown. He's

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00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: on the website taking a time out of his extensive

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00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: cab coverage to spend a little time with us. Hello, Chris,

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00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: how are you today? Do you Okay, Steve and I

1165
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: have been complaining about how hot we are, how he's

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00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: going to change the name of your show to one

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00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Bill's Fried. That bad think of that. It's kind of warm.

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00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of warm. And you were here yesterday when

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00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: I was told it was either it was warmer. Right,

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00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: it was worse yesterday, primarily because practice was two fifteen

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Speaker 1: to four or fifteen. He did it, you know, hottest

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Speaker 1: part of the day. And I mean you were sticking

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00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: to yourself at that one. It was I mean you

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00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: were sitting still and it was just rolling off you what.

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Speaker 1: All right? So what do you make I mean, Corey

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00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: Coleman's coming over from Cleveland. Um, there's all kinds of

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: stuff on Twitter about he showed. They showed some highlights

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Speaker 1: of him and some targets of him in the Chicago

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00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: game last year, and it was laughable how badly those

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00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: balls were thrown by Deshaun Kaiser. So they were trying

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00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: to make it out like this guy's you know, yeah,

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00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: it's coming from well, he came from olan sixteen Browns

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00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: team and they're getting rid of him. What does it

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00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: say about him? What can we expect? Well? I think

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00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: it's a new regime there, and much like we saw

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00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: here last year. You know, different strokes for different folks.

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00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: You got a new regime in there's usually going to

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00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: be a healthy dose of changes. Sometimes it's based less

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00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: on talent and more on fit. In the case of

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00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: McDermott and Bean, it's more about culture fit as we

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00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: know and as we've learned. And I wouldn't be surprised

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: if some of the same things exist in Cleveland. You know,

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00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: John Dorsey's trying to build this thing a certain way,

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00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: and Hugh Jackson, even to a certain extent, although he's

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Speaker 1: had Corey for two years, you know, is moving on.

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00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean they made a lot of changes at the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver position, heavy investment in free agency in the

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Speaker 1: form of Jarvis Landry, Josh Gordon. I think they're hoping

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Speaker 1: can get back to being a premier receiver in this league.

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00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: You know, when you've got the young draft pick in

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00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: Joku from a couple of years ago, who's looking like

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00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: an athletic talent a tight end. So I think what

1203
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: they're looking at there is that you know, we've got

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00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: a full board of talent there that we're gonna be

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00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: able to throw too Coleman has struggled. Admittedly there from

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00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: a scheme standpoint, that's been the stumbling block for him. Yes,

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00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: he's been hurt both years also, that didn't help, breaking

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00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: the hand two years in a row. He has since

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: had surgery and it's corrected now. But I think the

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00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: challenge for Coleman coming in the door here is to

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Speaker 1: catch up to the scheme on the fly number one

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00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: and then number two be able to go out and

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00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: understand and execute the assignments. If anything about Coleman is

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: of concern, it is that he has the physical tools

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00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: to play in this league and be productive. The problem

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00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: is he came from a very simple system in college

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: at Baylor, where he would be told basically where to

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00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: line up and then would look to the side line

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: to be told what route to run. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: how some of these kids that play receiver in college

1221
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: are tas. That's how they're taught how to play. Get it.

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00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: But that is why, very quickly, the two positions in

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00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: football that are becoming the hardest for college players to

1224
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: acclimate themselves to the NFL is wide receiver an offensive line.

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: Because offensive linemen are in two point stances almost the

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00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: entire game. They come to the league, they got to

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00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: play in a three point stance. They're like, what the

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00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: hell is this? Receivers they've got to not only figure

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00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: out on their own what to do, they've got to

1230
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: read a defense pre snap. There might be a site adjust.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've never seen one of those in their lives. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in this trade with Coleman, is it to the point

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Speaker 1: where you know what, We're gonna trade him for whatever

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01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: we can get because we're gonna cut him anyway. They

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01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: were shopping him for several months. So for the Bills

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Speaker 1: who need help, they need speed. I mean, Robert Foster

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01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: is the only guy in this roster that runs a

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Speaker 1: four or three something. Everybody else's mid four fours and

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: above you. Somebody stretched the field and Foster has been

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01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise. But I don't know if he's ready

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01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,479
Speaker 1: to step in and be a three or a four.

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01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: He might be your five or six as an undrafted

1243
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: rookie and help you on special teams and kind of

1244
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: learn on the job. Coleman, at least has time in

1245
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: the league, has shown he can be productive when given

1246
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I just wonder what the run up's gonna

1247
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: be like because as we saw when the Bills traded

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01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins around this time last year, he had a

1249
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,479
Speaker 1: tough time acclimating himself to the Rams offense, never really

1250
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: found his niche there, And a year later, where is he.

1251
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: He's in Kansas City, trade it again or signs in

1252
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: free agency. So you know, it's exciting that you're adding

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01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: a speed element to this offense, But I don't think

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01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: anybody can really peg and definitively know what they can

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Speaker 1: expect from Corey Coleman. Knowing he's behind number one and

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01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: knowing number two. Understanding and executing an NFL playbook still

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01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: seems to be a task for him. Chris Brown, Bills

1258
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Speaker 1: insider Buffalo Bills dot Com joining us to talk about

1259
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: the trade for Corey Coleman. If you have questions or

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Speaker 1: anything for Chris, give us a call eight oh three

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Speaker 1: h five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty From the Buffalo perspective, Chris,

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Speaker 1: two things I like about this Brandon bean move. Number

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Speaker 1: one the cost, I mean, seventh rounder in a couple

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Speaker 1: of year. Risks number two, the timing, And I asked

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Speaker 1: Brandon about this he had He had had dialogue with

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Speaker 1: the Browns about Corey Coleman months ago. He said he

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Speaker 1: didn't specify when, which I think we all heard. But

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Speaker 1: as Steve referred to it, he is patiently aggressive, aggressively patient.

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Speaker 1: How did you say it? And it's a courageous patient

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Speaker 1: It's something like, yeah, aggressively But you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Brandon mean does that he can wait you out? And

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Speaker 1: obviously there was interesting Corey Coleman on the part of

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Speaker 1: the Bills. But he waited and waited and waited until

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Speaker 1: the Browns get to the point where, uh, look, we

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Speaker 1: got gonna do any better than that. I could do

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Speaker 1: any better. We got um um Josh Gordon coming back.

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Speaker 1: We already made the move for Jarvis Landry. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I love the way that I love

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Speaker 1: the way that Brandon Bean waits until the time is right.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty effective in playing another team circumstances against themselves. Yeah, so, yes,

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Speaker 1: he is good at that. Sometimes you gotta be a

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Speaker 1: little lucky too, And you know there was some luck

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Speaker 1: involved in you know how he held his water in

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Speaker 1: the draft too, you know, with Denver kind of turning

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Speaker 1: the draft on its ear. And taking Bradley Chubb. That

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Speaker 1: kind of changed the course and created an opportunity for

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean. But then to act on that opportunity and

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Speaker 1: come through, you know, you get a tip of the

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Speaker 1: hat for that too. But yeah, it's it's a low

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Speaker 1: risk move that if it doesn't work, all right, you're

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Speaker 1: out of seventh in twenty twenty. I think the Bills

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Speaker 1: are hoping in twenty twenty they're drafting low in each round.

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Speaker 1: So what are you talking about? The two So it's

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Speaker 1: a pittance to get a player who has first round

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Speaker 1: caliber physical traits, but now they have they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to make an ardent effort here to school him up

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Speaker 1: in a way that was clear that's clearly going to

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Speaker 1: have to be different from the way he was schooled

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. To get him on the ball fast and

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Speaker 1: to get him thinking properly out on the field where

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Speaker 1: his athletic skills can just take over because he's not

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01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: overly thinking every single play that you know he's lining out.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is an indictment of the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver roster on the team right now? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's an indictment. It's an indication that it's not enough,

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: tire is not enough, and they're willing to make this

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Speaker 1: move to try to add in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a giant seismic type move where they're giving

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Speaker 1: up the farm to add a proven definite. This guy's

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Speaker 1: walking in. He's the number two. It's nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: Um this guy could be the number two. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to count chickens yet, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: He's way behind Murph. He hasn't seen this. He didn't

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Speaker 1: even look here. And that's different. That's different, you know

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01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: that's different. Um No, I think we've got a much

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Speaker 1: like Brandon Bean did. We got to all hold our

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Speaker 1: water on this. I don't want to hold my water. Well.

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Speaker 1: You may need a number two, and they do. But

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Speaker 1: the physical traits, Yeah, but if you can't run the

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Speaker 1: right route or you can't read the coverage, why would

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Speaker 1: you say that about him? Is that the word out

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Speaker 1: of Cleland? That is the word out of Cleveland. R Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he struggled to master offensive schemes because, as we

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Speaker 1: said earlier, he never had and to learn any of that.

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Speaker 1: It is a brand new thing for him when he

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Speaker 1: came out of you know round one fifteenth pick. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. If he struggles again, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: nearing the end of his NFL career. He knows that

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: more than the three of us know that, right, and

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Speaker 1: so you hope that that incentive coupled with an offensive

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Speaker 1: staff that is willing to put in extra hours if

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Speaker 1: the players are I mean we've heard this across the board.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've talked to several players out here after practices.

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Speaker 1: Robert Foster's talking about all the extra meeting time he's

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Speaker 1: taking with coaches. Now that's not necessarily Brian Dable. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's Chad Hall and the offensive assistant, or Shay Tierney,

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Speaker 1: the other offensive assistant. They'll sit in the meeting room

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01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: with them for hours and go over play after play,

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01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: whether it's off a practice tape, whether it's pulling it

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01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: straight out of the book, whatever it is. There, if

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Speaker 1: they've got a player that wants to put in the

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01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: extra time, they'll spend the extra time with him. Corey

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Speaker 1: Coleman would be wise to do that, not only the

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01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: first two weeks when he's here trying to play catchup,

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Speaker 1: but probably every single day, because if it doesn't work

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01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: here on a roster that is devoid of proven receiver

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: talent past Kelvin Benjamin and Jeremy Curley. It's going to

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01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: be more of an indictment on you than it is

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Speaker 1: on what talent is on this roster. Chris Brown joined

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Speaker 1: us talk about the last night trade for Corey Coleman.

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Speaker 1: I wanted one last question about this in the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room. Who's who sat up straight when they heard

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Speaker 1: about that trade straightest? Brandon Riley, Rod Streeter, Zay Jones.

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, who's who this trade got whose attention in

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver's room. I would say Riley and Streeter

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Speaker 1: the most, because those are the guys that are vying

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Speaker 1: for playing time three four five. You know, so there's

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Speaker 1: a new guy you gotta outperformed now. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we can underestimate though, the benefits of all the reps

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Speaker 1: those two guys have had in this scheme all through

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Speaker 1: the spring to now. We're talking for those receivers, even

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Speaker 1: in a group that numbers eleven or twelve of I mean,

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: you're talking several hundred reps. And Steve can probably speak

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Speaker 1: better to this than I can, you know, having been

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Speaker 1: through it himself. But that is a lot of physical memory,

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01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: retention that you're physically repping out on the field. Corey

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Speaker 1: Coleman comes in with none of that, So there's there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of ground to make up here despite the

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Speaker 1: physical skills. I don't want to be Debbie Downer here

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Speaker 1: you are. I'm just trying to be the fact police

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Speaker 1: because that's what we're dealing with here. Deal. It's a

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Speaker 1: team that needed an answer at number two, right, and

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Speaker 1: I admire the Bills from trying to answer that. I

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Speaker 1: admire them for trying to answer that. I just and

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Speaker 1: granted this time of year, the options are few and

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Speaker 1: far between, so kudos to them for finding somebody of

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Speaker 1: this caliber of physical talent without having a part with

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Speaker 1: much in terms of draft capital. But I think we

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Speaker 1: just gotta This is a wait and see thing. Let's

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: see how he can activate himself. He's in a tough

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to wait a choice. Corey Coleman is in

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: a really tough spot, because you do you parachute into camp.

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01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: These guys are ray into the routine. They're way into

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: the installation. They're not stopping and waiting on him, and

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01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: even the guys who have been here since OTAs and

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: the draft and the mini camp and all the way

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: through training camp. They're gonna be asked to do on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. You can bet and this happens a lot,

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01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 1: or you used to happen with us. Maybe it doesn't

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01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: happen with these guys. I'll bet it does. You got receivers.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna go out in the game. They're gonna run

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: through a play they've never run through physically with their team.

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01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna run through a play that they've only seen

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: other guys run. Because there's so many guys, so many reps,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to get a chance to rep that

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01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: play on the field against the defense. They're gonna have

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01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: seen it maybe six times, have it practiced, look at it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've seen it. They've seen it called, they've heard it called,

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01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: but they've never run that play against the defense live.

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 1: And that's just because you got thirteen guys in camp.

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01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: You can't run the same play thirteen times and then

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01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: they feel like that's been installed. You get a couple

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: of guys that'll run it three or four times, maybe

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01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: two or three sets of them, but that only gets

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01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: you halfway through the roster. And those guys have had

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Speaker 1: more reps than Corey Coleman. They're in a better spot

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: right than Corey Coleman. They've seen on ten, eleven and

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01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: twelve on this rose, they've heard it called. They've and

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Speaker 1: maybe that you know, they've watched it on practice. You'll

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: go out and they'll be three guys and they're starting

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: the three wide receiver set. Two of the guys have

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Speaker 1: run that play, this guy hasn't, or one of them's

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01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: run that play. Two of them haven't or one of

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 1: the guys have run that play, but playing the z

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01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: instod the X, you know. So that's what you're looking

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01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: at here. Because the time is so limited on the

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01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: field and the reps are so limited, you've got to

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01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: be able to sit there and do it. And Corey

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01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: Coleman's walk into that he has never even heard the language,

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: let alone run the play and see what it looks

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: like on the field. That's what he's up against. That's

1423
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: a big, big hole climate. That's probably what frustrates me

1424
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: about the sport of football more than anything else, just

1425
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: how scripted it all is and how you have to

1426
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: master the script, and then even then there are adjustments

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: to be made out on the field. Like, this is

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: the play on paper and you're supposed to do, but

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: you also got to read that guy across from you

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01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: and make decisions off of him too. Sometimes, um, you know,

1431
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: where there's a check at the line or something. So

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: I just think there's a voluminous amount of stuff that

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01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: he's got to handle. So let's just let's see how

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01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: he gets through this first week. You know, he's probably

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: gonna be swimming a little bit, even if he does

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01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: put an extra time. It is a cram session. It's

1437
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: cram session. That's what that's what's coming up here. That's

1438
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: what you sign up for, is an NFL coach. Though,

1439
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: you gotta get the guy ready to play. You gotta

1440
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: get him ready to play. And you got him. And

1441
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: because here's the thing, if he's that good to be

1442
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: a first round pick, he's gonna make your team better.

1443
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, the whole crux of what

1444
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: the offense is going to look like at the wider

1445
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: outposition falls on the shoulders of the assistant coaches getting

1446
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: this guy out there and getting him know what he

1447
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: was doing. That you can call it a coach one,

1448
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: it's a teacher. You gotta teach this guy how to

1449
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: be an NFL receiver in this offense. And that's a big,

1450
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: big job. And I'll tell you what concerns me the most.

1451
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,799
Speaker 1: This is why I have a concern. The way Brian

1452
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: Dable teaches this offense to his players is concept based.

1453
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: It is not Corey, You're gonna be our Z receiver.

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01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: Here's everything the z's got to do. That's not the

1455
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: way he teaches this offense. He teaches it across the board.

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01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: Here is the full play, here's the concept. Here's what

1457
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: X does. Why does Z does? This? Is why this

1458
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: guy does this, This guy does that, and that guy

1459
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: does that. You could line up at any one of

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01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: those three spots. Corey. That's one play, three possible things

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: he could be doing with various sight adjust decisions to

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01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: be made, this, that, and the other one play with

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: various variations. Now multiply that by what eight hundred? Yeah,

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01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: it's so so that's what he's up again. So I'm

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: just trying to paint the picture there that this guy's

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01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: gonna not just gonna walk in him because he runs

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Speaker 1: a four to three seven gonna light the world on fire.

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01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see how they handle him. Do

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01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: they teach him the same way everybody else, or are

1470
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: they gonna say he's coming in this late, let's just

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: give him the Z stuff and say, well that's goal.

1472
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: Arn that they will do that something, because they're gonna

1473
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: have to evaluate him, whether he's where he can play.

1474
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: They gotta not forget the mental stuff that we're talking about.

1475
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: They gotta say, Okay, is he really that good? I mean,

1476
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: is he a bust? Is he can he catch? He

1477
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: had some drop issues in cleanly, has some drop issues

1478
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: in college. I don't We're not gonna bring this guy

1479
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: in here. We put all this invest all this work

1480
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: into him, and all of a sudden go out there

1481
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 1: and he's running wide open and he's you know, he's

1482
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: squibbing the ball down through his body, down to his

1483
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: feet and kicking it off the field. You know. I mean,

1484
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: I think if fresh start will help him, I think

1485
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: he needed it quite frankly, with all the garbage that

1486
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: was going on there, nothing seemed to go right for him,

1487
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: whether it was quarterbacks rotating in and out, change all

1488
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: offensive schemes. That's you and me speculating, though, we amazing.

1489
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: I think it makes a lot of sense though, right, Yeah,

1490
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: everything changes. It's the mental side and knowing how Stables

1491
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: always cha. I mean, I hear these receivers coming off

1492
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: the field all the time. They're saying, well, yeah, it

1493
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: is a challenge because coach Stable's always putting an extra

1494
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: thing in to throw the defense off, or he's changing this,

1495
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: or he's tweaking that. And while that's admirable and you

1496
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: need to be unpredictable in this league if you're gonna

1497
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: survive as an offense. I'm thinking of Corey Coleman coming

1498
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: in the door and you know, maybe finally feeling after

1499
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: a week I've got this, and then there's a tweak

1500
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: here or a tweak there, and then whoa hold on

1501
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: a second, All right, let me I gotta put another

1502
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: two hours, you know with whoever. So I think it's

1503
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be baby steps here. You know,

1504
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: they'll put him on the field, don't get me wrong.

1505
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 1: I just don't know how quickly we're gonna see traction

1506
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: in his game where his physical skills can truly take over.

1507
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: And we're saying, wow, we really got something here with

1508
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Bills inCider, Buffalo Bills dot Com. Let's work

1509
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: on a phone called Bob from Las Vegas. Go ahead, Bob,

1510
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Yeah, Bob, are you there? Bob's gone,

1511
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: Bob want to know how the offensive line was going?

1512
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: That's what it's it. Yeah, there was there was some

1513
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,839
Speaker 1: moving around today because John Miller stepped out of practice,

1514
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 1: went to the tent, came back, watched the rest of practice,

1515
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: but was held out for the remainder. So he probably

1516
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: tweaked something. So Russell Bodin goes to starting center, Ryan

1517
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: Groy goes to right guard, which I don't think is

1518
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: all that surprising, and Adam Redman, the third string center

1519
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 1: from Harvard, moves up to the second team. I gotta say, who, Well, nobody,

1520
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: he's been the third No. So Redmond slides up behind Bodine,

1521
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, as the second team center. And Redman's put

1522
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: together a nice camp. I think he's been a very

1523
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise. And I think the thing to watch for

1524
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: now with him is do they try him at guard?

1525
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: You know, do they try to put him in here

1526
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: at guard a little bit, Let's see what else he

1527
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: can do. That would, to me, would be a sign

1528
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: that they like him enough to the point where they say, well,

1529
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: let's see if there's something else he can do, let's

1530
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: try to justify a roster spot for Adam Redmond. And

1531
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: so where does it go from here? I think we

1532
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: have to see how he does in the first couple

1533
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: of preseason games. Here gonna get a ton of run

1534
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, you know, as a third team center. Um,

1535
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:11,560
Speaker 1: but he's been a nice surprise. UM. I worry a

1536
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: little bit about Marshall Newhouse. I just it's a ten

1537
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: year veteran. I mean, if anybody should have polished technique,

1538
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: it's Marshall Newhouse. And I'm just look, I don't have

1539
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: the trained eye to know everything about offensive line play,

1540
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: but I mean, he looks like he's standing back there

1541
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: ready to catch a medicine ball and pass protection catches

1542
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: the guy and then hugs him up. And some of

1543
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: these defensive ends are are know when that's coming, and

1544
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: they are they are not making it easy for him.

1545
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: And if he can't be the swing tackle, now you're hunting.

1546
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: You're Loomot McDermott, de beer. You got all these guys. Yeah,

1547
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: but somebody's I'm scraping. I think mcdermots had a good camp.

1548
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: You like, he had a good day today. Yeah. I

1549
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: think Juan Castillo is really trying to bolster his confidence.

1550
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: He was out there hooting and hollering about every single

1551
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: rep that McDermott took. He is getting better at preventing

1552
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: a guy from getting inside on him. He is. The

1553
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 1: other players actually make fun of him for rocking back early.

1554
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: You watch him in team segments. He rocks back early

1555
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: almost every time, trying to get an edge. I get it,

1556
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: but sometimes they play off that he oversets, bang beat inside.

1557
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: Today Jerry Hughes tried to spin move inside on him,

1558
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: and he got the arm out and shut him off.

1559
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: On the next play he tried to do the same thing.

1560
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: Might have been the legal hands to the face of

1561
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: the game, but Castillo was happy because he saw progress there.

1562
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. I'm a little concerned about who

1563
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: the swing tackle is gonna be for this team should

1564
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Mills or Dion Dawkins go down for a couple

1565
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 1: of weeks. We gotta have one minute Lefty to Chris,

1566
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: just your one minute capsule evaluation of quarterback Playum. I

1567
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: thought late last week, and I mentioned to Steve on

1568
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: the air, I thought I began to I had begun

1569
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: to detect some separation with McCarron kind of playing better

1570
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: than the other two, of course, being and McDermott kind

1571
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: of shot that down over the week, right, But what

1572
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: do you what do you make of the quarterback? I

1573
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: thought McCarron had two good days in a row last week.

1574
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: I believe it was Thursday and Friday. Ye, and then

1575
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: he had another decent day Today wasn't great. No, I

1576
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 1: thought the most accurate quarterback today was Josh Allen. Yep,

1577
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: today was his most accurate day of camp. And we

1578
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: wrote about that and three things to know from Day

1579
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: ten at Bill's Camp on Buffalo bills dot com quick plug.

1580
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was. He beat a cover too, and

1581
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: Steve was standing next to me when we were talking

1582
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: about it. He beat a cover two look, which Steve

1583
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: admittedly said as an easy looked to decipher for a quarterback.

1584
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 1: But you still got to drop it wide enough to

1585
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: keep it away from the safety and over the top

1586
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: of the corner. Well that was the second one, but

1587
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: there was one earlier to h Trevaris Cadet, and he

1588
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: dropped it yeah, um, but I mean right over the corner,

1589
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: away from the safety, inside the sideline, right in the

1590
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: breadbas some juice on it too. Yeah. And and in

1591
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: the red zone, he was the only guy to get

1592
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: the team in the end zone. They ran sixteen plays

1593
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: in red zone. They scored one touchdown, and it was

1594
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: a pass that I know mccaron or Peterman wouldn't even throw. Yeah,

1595
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: because the coverage was that tight. You had McLeod coming

1596
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: out of the slot, Ryan Carters, Clemson teammates covering him.

1597
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: He comes across, Carter is there with him, step for step,

1598
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, playing trail technique, and you know, Allan sticks

1599
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: it in the hole there and he holds on for

1600
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: the touchdown, the only touchdown a red zone. Best day

1601
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: accuracy wise for Josh Allen today. We'll see if it continues.

1602
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: I saw, yeah, and he threw him made a handful

1603
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: of throws that, yeah, nobody else would have made. And

1604
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: now he's got to stack that on tomorrow. He's got

1605
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: to stack that on today. What he got coming up

1606
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: on the website? What do he got? Three things to know?

1607
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, from Bill's camp, as we do every day, Um,

1608
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, we've also got highlights every day from practice,

1609
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: right and Bill minute, you know, kind of a one

1610
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: minute video wrap up of the day, and you know

1611
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some long form quarterback features coming up. Nataneater,

1612
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: it'll be up first. They let you do those highlights

1613
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: when when's the closed practice or mine letting or show.

1614
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: We can do it. Okay, we can do it. We're

1615
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: allowed to shoot it all right. So when they when

1616
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: we have closed practices like today, you want to see

1617
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: some stuff on video, Buffalo Bills dot Com is where

1618
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: you can get it all in a nut show. Thanks Chris,

1619
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: thank you got it. Chris Brown Bills pool out here. Yeah,

1620
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: we're good. Chris Brown Bills inside of Buffalo Bills dot Com.

1621
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: Micah Hig gonna stop by next, come on back for that.

1622
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from Bill's Training Camp and this is

1623
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to Bill's training camp. It's

1624
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Joh Murphy, Steve Tasker. You're joined by

1625
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: veteran safety Micah High. Thank you coming by, and Michael,

1626
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Year ago you were a new face here.

1627
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: Now you're like an old vet on that defense right, Yes, yeah,

1628
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: something like that. How does that feel? That feels good?

1629
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: Feels good to coming to this training camp. Um, coming

1630
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: into this OTA's you know, a couple of months ago

1631
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: and and already knowing the playbook somewhat. Um, so now

1632
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: we can just build off of what we kind of

1633
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: uh did last year and and um, you know it's

1634
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: hard to get back to what we did last year,

1635
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: that's for sure, but we're just trying to get back

1636
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: to that point and even further we had, you know,

1637
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 1: but the easy handle for us, Murph and I. And

1638
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: we've had media people on they say, wow, second year

1639
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: in the defense, and you guys, you guys played so well.

1640
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: You were four new faces last year, so it should

1641
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: be able to build on it. It's not quite that easy,

1642
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: but by the by the same token, you are in

1643
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: a different spot. Yeah, it's uh, it's definitely not easy.

1644
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: Like I just said, Um, you know, every week and

1645
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: then in this league, it's a challenge and you gotta

1646
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: go out there. You gotta you know, you gotta play

1647
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: your a game. I think the best thing we did

1648
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: last year was not to give up big plays. Um,

1649
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,759
Speaker 1: that's what what kept um, you know, our our defense striving.

1650
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: You know, we had a couple game stretch where we

1651
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 1: couldn't like we couldn't stop the run and do all that.

1652
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: But as far as the big plays over top, um,

1653
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: we kept that limited so that that's the key thing.

1654
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: And that's what we're trying to you know, limit here

1655
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: and training camp and um, like I said, just built

1656
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: off the last year. There's another thing that defense did

1657
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: well last year and it really produced some victories. Take

1658
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: the ball away right a couple of times, especially early

1659
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 1: on fortst half of the season. Yeah you were. You

1660
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: guys are as good as anybody in the league taking

1661
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: the foot Yeah. Well, the coach is justested a lot. Um.

1662
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: You know, whether the balls in the air go get it, um,

1663
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: the running backs running the ball, quarterbacks you know, in

1664
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: the pocket. It's all about go out to the football.

1665
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 1: It's about punching at the football, strip at the football.

1666
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: We won a few games from you know, tradevious against

1667
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers punching at the football. Um, there's a few

1668
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: other times, you know falcons, Yeah yeah, falcons. Um, you know,

1669
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: just going off to the football. And and uh, it's

1670
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: not just interceptions, it's it's all around. So coaches have

1671
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: been preaching that and um, you know it's it's been

1672
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 1: working out fine. For You're gonna have some new faces

1673
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: up in front of you, guys, how's how's that getting

1674
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 1: acclimated with them? And um, and let's face it, you know,

1675
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: the better that front seven play is, the easier it

1676
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: is on you guys back there. And and a lot

1677
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: of times you guys were the the engine. It wasn't

1678
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: the front seven, it was the secondary. And now you're

1679
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: gonna get it looks like more help up front. So

1680
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: we're excited. Were we're really excited for the new guys

1681
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: that have come in. Um, they're all buying in. I

1682
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: think the first they came in. OTA's Um, you know,

1683
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 1: everybody's excited just to look around the room, seeing the

1684
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 1: guys that we have in the locker room. Um, it's

1685
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be too fun. And like you said,

1686
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: you know they're as the more and more that the

1687
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: front seven comes along, you know, the less the guys

1688
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: in the back end have to uh kind of compensate. So, um,

1689
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: we're excited. You know those guys stopped the run balls

1690
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: in there. We can go get it. I got a

1691
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: question for you about a guy in new Face on

1692
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: the back end who seems to make plays almost every practice.

1693
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: He made one today picked uh grabbed a tip pass,

1694
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: Randa packed the other way. Raphael Bush, Yes, tell us

1695
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: about him. He's a really good player back and you

1696
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: both back. He's a he's a playmaker. He gets it. Uh,

1697
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: he gets it done. Um, whether in the run game

1698
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: he can come up and hit with his past game,

1699
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: he he can cover with the best to them. Um,

1700
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited for him. He's one of those

1701
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: guys you can't not have on the football field. Um,

1702
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: how do you get him out there? If you and

1703
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: poor you're gonna play, We'll see, we'll see. I have

1704
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: no idea. Um, you know, I'm I'm not the coach,

1705
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: but you know, he's just one of those guys that

1706
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: he's on the football field, he's he's around the ball,

1707
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: he's making play. So he's kind of those guys you

1708
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: just can't leave off the field. What are some of

1709
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: the things the next steps and that kind of the

1710
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: next level you guys are looking to get to on

1711
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: this defense. I mean, you obviously want to improve from

1712
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: last year in a lot of areas, but what is

1713
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: that next step? What's it gonna look like? Well? I

1714
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: think that, Um, I think everyone needs to sit back

1715
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: and look a look at what they could do better.

1716
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: You know, myself personally, I know there's a lot of

1717
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: things I can prove on. Um. You know, I know

1718
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: my weaknesses, I know my strengths. I think as long

1719
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: as everyone knows that and try to just build their

1720
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: build their strengths, but also build their weaknesses. Um, you

1721
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: know that, I think we'll be fine. But I think

1722
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: everybody on this defense is motivated. You know coach talks

1723
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: about all the time with the chip on your shoulder. Um,

1724
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, guys on this defense and on this team

1725
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: have have been overlooked and and you know the guys

1726
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: that we brought in, UM kind of have that same

1727
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 1: same message. So UM, like I said, I'm excited for

1728
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: what those guys are gonna do. It from excited for

1729
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: us in the back end, I'm excited for this team

1730
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: in general. Some new coaches in in the secondary. What

1731
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: can you tell us about coach Butler and do you

1732
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: work with him or Yeah, we work with both. Uh.

1733
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: You know obviously babbages with the safeties, but uh, but

1734
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: we do get Butler too. Um. You know when when

1735
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: all the dvs are together and he's a he's a

1736
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: motivated that's for sure. Um. You know, he he knows

1737
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: his football he talks football. Um, he's kind of one

1738
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: of those guys that he sees what players see and

1739
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: and that's and as a player that you gotta respect

1740
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: that because you know, if you have a coach that's

1741
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: that's never played at this level and it's kind of

1742
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: saying stuff and and you know, it's kind of hard

1743
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: to translate to the field. Um, that's where the uh

1744
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: the head button comes in. But he knows what he's

1745
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: talking about, he he Um. You know, he's he gets

1746
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: us in position to make plays and and I'm excited

1747
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: for what he what he brings the table. This year,

1748
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: you know that weekend training camp coming up this time.

1749
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: At the end of it, you kind of finally got

1750
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: a game where you get a chance to play some guys. Um.

1751
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: Talk about the lead up to that. You guys may

1752
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: get a series or two. Probably It's it's hard and

1753
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,520
Speaker 1: I remember it. It's it's hard to get into game mentality.

1754
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 1: You know, it's not gonna be a real game. Yeah, yeah,

1755
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: that's Nevertheless, you get a whole week to get there.

1756
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: That's the hardest thing. Um. But at the same time,

1757
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: as it's an opportunity to go out there and make

1758
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: plays against you know not it's not our offense. So

1759
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: we're excited for that. Go hit somebody else and and uh,

1760
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, obviously we can thud here and practice. We

1761
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: have some live periods other day in the stadium, but um,

1762
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, we could actually bring some guys to the

1763
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: ground and and really you know, make plays in the

1764
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: game on in the game on Thursday. So that should

1765
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: be fun with Bill safety, Mike. I didn't want to

1766
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 1: ask you about this team's culture, Mike, and and oftentimes

1767
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: and we're guilty, but people talk about the culture that

1768
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: mc dermott has instituted here and you immediately talk about

1769
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams and Lorenzo important guys. But I have anythink

1770
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: you and your partner back there, Jordan Poyer added a

1771
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: lot to the culture here last year. Do you see

1772
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: it that way too? And what was it? What did

1773
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: you guys bring to kind of change the mindset of

1774
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: this team last season? So I appreciate that. Um, I

1775
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: just think that, you know, obviously there's there's like guys

1776
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, like Zoe and Kyle. They make this

1777
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: thing go. They really do you know Kyle and you know,

1778
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: talking to him on the field, off the field, he's

1779
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that he just eats breeze,

1780
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 1: sleeps football. He just is a um a big asset

1781
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: to our defense into our football team. And then Zoe

1782
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: just is. I swear he gets better with wine. He's

1783
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: like wine. He gets better with time. Man, he just is.

1784
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: He's getting better and better. And he's punching at the

1785
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: football and he's so strong that you know, these running

1786
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: backs they have you know, a good hold on it.

1787
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: He's just so strong he's punching out. So those guys

1788
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: make this this this thing go. But um, also you

1789
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: those guys like uh like poorer myself that we just

1790
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, try to be alongside them. Um, try to

1791
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: help anyway we can. I think a lot of guys

1792
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: on this team are like that, you know, just bring

1793
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: their coach talks about all the time. Be yourself. Um,

1794
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: we don't want any fake stuff. We don't want any

1795
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: you know, uh, false enthusiasm. You know, if you're a

1796
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: guy that likes to get excited and yell and do

1797
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: all that to do, be yourself. And if you're you

1798
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: know a quiet guy, and um, you know, you get

1799
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: on the field, obviously you got to talk and communicate

1800
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: on the field. But um, everyone brings different personalities the

1801
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: football team. And that's that's why I think that we

1802
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: we did so well um on defense and as a

1803
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: team last year. On the topic of personality. A year

1804
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: ago at this time, we were talking to you and

1805
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: others about Sean's UM sessions where you'd have a guy

1806
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: stand up and introduce himself basically. And does he still

1807
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: do that? Is that still going on? He's done a

1808
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: few times for new guys or everybody, UM, a little

1809
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: bit of both. Okay, you know, because it's it's that

1810
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: time of the year. You got to get to know

1811
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 1: your your teammates and uh, you know, whether guys weren't

1812
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: here last year or they were, you know, it's it's

1813
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: still good to get up there. Guys get up there

1814
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: and hear about you know their past and and what

1815
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: makes them tick, and you know their motivations and all that,

1816
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: and you know kind of uh put put a name

1817
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: with the face, and their families walking around here, and

1818
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: it's good to you know, they can introduce their family

1819
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: already before you see him and uh in real life. Okay,

1820
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: here's the real question. And Murph and I are having

1821
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: this ongoing debate I think this defense with the improvement upfront,

1822
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: and you're second year to think you can we have

1823
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: top ten defense, and I know your goal's got to

1824
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: be higher than that even but I think this this

1825
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: has kind of got the makings of a of a

1826
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: really really competitive defense. Yes, um, I agree, but there's

1827
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff we have to do to get

1828
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: to that point. Um. Like I said, every week in

1829
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: the NFL is challenging. You're facing whole new uh offense

1830
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: with you know, dynamic weapons, whether it's a tight end receiver,

1831
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: quarterback is a legend running backs you know. So it's

1832
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: it's tough. And as long as we bring that, you know,

1833
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 1: bring our a game every week, um, and our focused

1834
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: and determined to to go out there and play well,

1835
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: then I think we'll be fun. Basically this today, I

1836
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: guess yesterday maybe starts your third week at camp, one

1837
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: more week ago. You're feeling like time to get moving

1838
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: on yet are you still fresh? And what's the team feeling?

1839
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: You know what it's it's going into camp as a player. Um,

1840
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, the first camp you ever go to is

1841
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 1: just mentally just yea tough, It's just it is. Well,

1842
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: once you get into four five six. It's kind of like,

1843
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's get these preseasons. Come the preseason game,

1844
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, rolling around, so we go out there and

1845
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: hit other people and um, go out there, get your

1846
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: snaps and prove on those, um and let's get to

1847
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: a regular season. Yeh. Obvious is a process. You know.

1848
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: You can't just hop right into the regular season and

1849
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: and expect to play your best. That's that's not realistic.

1850
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 1: So this is kind of a build up. But I'm

1851
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: excited for the preseason games coming, and I'm excited for

1852
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: the regular season. Once the game start coming, they don't stop, right,

1853
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,560
Speaker 1: It just every week. If you're lucky, you're going to

1854
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: decenter or January a little bit. Yes, sir, Yes, sir, Michael,

1855
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: thanks for this good luck here, appreciate it like a

1856
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: high Bill Safety. Michael high joining the Steve and I

1857
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: back with more One Bill's Live from Bill's Training Camp

1858
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show. John

1859
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker Comedy Live from a training camp.

1860
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 1: Michael high Man, what an intelligent guy, I do believe.

1861
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: And I asked him this question when he was with

1862
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: a Steve. Look, I know that you know you look

1863
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 1: at character guys, culture guys. Obviously, Kyle Williams, Lorenzo I

1864
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: think Hide Employer and there are others two provide some

1865
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: of that culture here. I really do, absolutely. I think

1866
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: the splash they made last year and as well as

1867
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: they played last year and the type of guys they are,

1868
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: went miles towards bringing the team to work. Sean McDermott

1869
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: wanted it to be with the culture. I don't think

1870
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: there's any question about it. They played so well, and

1871
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,839
Speaker 1: plus the fact that both those guys were free agents,

1872
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: they were both brand new to the team, and they

1873
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: both started right away. They plugged in, and I think

1874
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: it stated that listen that those are our guys right there,

1875
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: that's the type of guy that the way we're looking forward.

1876
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 1: That's the production we want. That's that's the bar right there.

1877
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: I think that says it all. And those guys set

1878
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: the bar for what this organization wanted to be and

1879
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 1: where they wanted to go with the free agents and

1880
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: their draft picks and the guys they brought in here. Hey, Steve,

1881
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: changing subjects here. Over the weekend, I went to get

1882
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: my oil changed there least Saturday one walked in and

1883
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: in the oil change place. They had a brochure about

1884
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: this past weekend's eating Corn festival and there was a

1885
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: picture of you on the back of it. It was

1886
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 1: a West turn Ford ad of Steve Tasker and bib overalls.

1887
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 1: You look like somebody said, it's American Gothic meets a

1888
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 1: broke back Mountain bib overalls and you had a thing,

1889
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: what do you call it, the Ford pitch pitchfork. Amazing

1890
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 1: picture of you and that the time that you take

1891
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: to pose for those pictures is what gets me. So

1892
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: you dressed up in the bib overalls and went out

1893
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: and to a field somewhere with a pick. You've been

1894
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: You've been in this business long enough to know that

1895
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: I didn't pose for any of that pictures. All I did.

1896
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: All he did was cut my face out and stick

1897
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: it on whatever they wanted to stick it on. And

1898
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: there it is. Our producer, Jay Harris, want to know

1899
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: if there was a flap in the back of the

1900
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: bib overalls, the button up flat. Listen, I don't know.

1901
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: That's the first I'd seen to that. I didn't. You know,

1902
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 1: I never took any pictures in bib overalls. You knew that,

1903
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: and you know, so you are the guy I am

1904
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: at their disposal. Any limit to what you would dress

1905
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 1: up as for Wester like, well, I've only been doing

1906
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: a decade so so far. Now it's great. It really.

1907
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 1: It was seven thirty Saturday morning and get my oil change.

1908
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: I saw that. I was like chuckle to start. It

1909
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: was a perfect way to start the weekend. Hey, coming out.

1910
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Kim Jones from NFL Network a visitor to camp here today.

1911
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: We'll talk to her about the Bills. She just came

1912
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: from Patriots camp. She's been to the Jets of the Giants.

1913
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Kim Jones coming up. When we returned from Bill's training camp.

1914
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health on Buffalo

1915
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Hello Hills Radio Network Stories update. The update

1916
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: from Buffalo Bills training camp. Another hot day in the

1917
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: sun for the Bills with temperatures in mid eighties. Worked

1918
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 1: out this morning, second day they've battled very hot weather

1919
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: at camp practice. Nathan Petermen got most of the first

1920
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 1: team reps today. J McCarron with the two's rookie Josh

1921
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: Allen with the third team, Alan got in some nice

1922
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: work seven on seven red zone towards the end of practice,

1923
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: growing to his right on one play and finding rookie

1924
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McCleod for a ten yard touchdown pass defensivemen

1925
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy sideline again today. Growing tightness wide receiver Cam

1926
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: Phillips with a growing injury kept him limited. Bills on

1927
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: the field again tomorrow morning eight forty five am. You

1928
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: do not need to take into attend. We're three days

1929
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: away from the preseason opener this Thursday, seven pm, a

1930
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: newer field, the Bills and the Carolina Panthers. The Bills

1931
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: don't know whether new wide receiver Corey Coleman would be

1932
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: available for that preseason game number one. They acquired him

1933
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: last night from the Cleveland Browns and exchange. Buffalo sends

1934
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: a seventh round draft pick in twenty twenty to the

1935
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Coleman was the number fifteen overall pick a

1936
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, first round pick with the Browns

1937
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: selected that year, the Bills released the wide receiver Quan

1938
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: Bray to clear a roster spot for Corey Coleman. Last year,

1939
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Coleman played in nine games, eight starts, miss seven games

1940
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: with a hand injury. Twenty three catches during to five

1941
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:04,799
Speaker 1: yards two touchdowns as rookie Coleman started ten games, catching

1942
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 1: thirty three passes for under thirteen yards three touchdowns. He

1943
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: had a hand injury that year as well. Giants wide

1944
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: receiver Odell Beckham's agent has left New York. No deal

1945
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: in place after face to face meetings with the team

1946
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 1: over the last few days. The Giants are said to

1947
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: be valuing Beckham at a total average annual value below

1948
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Sam Darnold has a fair shop to start

1949
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Week one for the Jets, according to ESPN, has to

1950
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 1: keep progressing. They say. Darnold signed a four year contract

1951
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: a couple of days late, arrived in camp on July thirtieth.

1952
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 1: The Eagles architects of their championship run, Doug Peterson and

1953
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,520
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, have agreed to terms on new contracts. Financial

1954
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: details not disclosed. And Terrell Owens worked out for the

1955
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: CFL Saskatchewan rough Riders the day after he went into

1956
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That is the update

1957
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,799
Speaker 1: from Buffalo Bill's training camp at Saint John Fisher College.

1958
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: Down down Times, Welcome back to the show. John Burfy

1959
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Steve Cansker joined, as we frequently are by one of

1960
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 1: our favorite guests. He is here with the NFL Network

1961
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: if she makes her to are training camps happy to

1962
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 1: hip Kim Jones with us? High Kimo, How are you guys?

1963
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: We're great. We're doing crazy sweaty. That's how you really.

1964
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm it's been it's been steaming out here. I think

1965
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna rain. It feels like it's gonna rain. You

1966
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: how many camps have been to this this Jets and Giants,

1967
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,480
Speaker 1: which are home trips for me, Richmond for the Redskins,

1968
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: Foxborough for the Patriots obviously, and now the Bills. So

1969
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 1: happy to do all of them. I saw you. You're

1970
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: in Foxborough Friday for a major momentum case. The big

1971
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 1: birthday nut we were talking to pretty smells bitter, No,

1972
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 1: not bitter, but I mean it was kind of overplayed,

1973
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: wasn't it. I mean, a birthday cake for a guy.

1974
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's a it was you know why it

1975
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: was outside the confines of the practice area. You know,

1976
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: six thousand fans ate a piece of it, So it

1977
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: was very very sugary. I did taste it. I tasted

1978
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 1: one of the pieces. It was very sugary. Cake is

1979
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 1: tom cake the same as drinking the Koolaiden. I don't

1980
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: think did the birthday. I can't imagine no avocado, no avocado.

1981
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: There's no way he would eat a cake made with

1982
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds of sugar, and that one

1983
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,879
Speaker 1: was no chance. There's a semi serious question about the Patriots,

1984
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: all that went on during the offseason, all the speculation

1985
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: about bad blood between Belichick and Brady and others. Do

1986
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: you detect any of them now that they were a

1987
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: week and a half into camps? I mean not really.

1988
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: You know, camp is camp has a rhythm on its own.

1989
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: It has long days. It was INCREDI it was hotter

1990
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: there than it is today here, believe it or not. Um,

1991
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 1: So there's other things to deal with. You know. Listen,

1992
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: Alex grows back in the building. So you want to

1993
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 1: say Tom one, you want to say, Bill just decided

1994
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: not to fight it anymore. You know, however you want

1995
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 1: to look at it. He's back in the building at least. Um.

1996
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that he'll ever be great. You know,

1997
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: you do sense some lingering stuff maybe sort of, but

1998
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm not sure how much it matters.

1999
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: On the best on their best day, there's always a

2000
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 1: level of tension in the room. It starts with Belichick

2001
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 1: and his relationship with Brady, or at least they're perceived.

2002
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: You know, it came out, story came out. I mean

2003
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: after they they come back for the first meeting after

2004
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, for the season, and he burates the quarterback

2005
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 1: for how bad he played in the championship game that

2006
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 1: got him beating I mean, who does that well? And

2007
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: people close to the Patriots, and I don't pretend to

2008
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: be I see them occasionally and last year asking I

2009
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: saw them a lot down the stretch. But and I've

2010
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: seen a couple of their Super Bowl runs. But you know,

2011
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: that is part of the greatness of that place is

2012
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 1: he's always been able to treat Brady like he treats

2013
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 1: number fifty three on the roster exactly. So you know,

2014
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: if Brady has tired of it. You know, on the

2015
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 1: Tom Versus time his Facebook documentary that he had complete

2016
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 1: editorial control over, you have to believe, right, Uh, you know,

2017
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: there was the idea, you know, are you appreciated enough?

2018
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: I think Jim Gray asked him that at some point,

2019
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: So that kind of the appreciation has come up, and

2020
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: you know, maybe some feelings are hurt when you look

2021
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: at the Patriots and you look at Brady and you know,

2022
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, really he did not lead

2023
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 1: the team in offseason appearances in the weight room, you know,

2024
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: at the at the OTAs, the voluntary stuff. Is that

2025
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: gone now? Is that anything too that will have any

2026
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 1: another words? Some people wondered if maybe somewhere down the

2027
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: road this season Brady doesn't play well, and somebody might say, well,

2028
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: maybe you should have gone to those voluntary OTAs, Maybe

2029
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 1: he should have done this, And you guys think so.

2030
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard for me to imagine a practice

2031
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: in May or June would have made a difference. If

2032
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 1: he does have a game where he doesn't play well,

2033
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: that's hard for me to imagine. Um, I'm not sure

2034
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,759
Speaker 1: any player thinks that way. We've had You've seen players

2035
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: sit out, you know, I saw I covered to Michael Strahan,

2036
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 1: who you know, sat out as much as he could

2037
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: towards the end and then played, you know, really fine

2038
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 1: football in his last season, which ended up being a

2039
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: championship year. So I'm not so sure about that. One

2040
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 1: thing that's the overriding topic here in Buffalo for seventeen

2041
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: years is when's he gonna quit, right, all right, I understand,

2042
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: and I've said this too, and I don't Murph and

2043
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about this. I've seen it happen in

2044
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: the past with other players, only really great ones though,

2045
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 1: because nobody really cares about others. Sometimes it really it

2046
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: rarely ends well, right, agreed. Joe montaned up as a chief. Yep,

2047
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 1: Marcus Allen is up as a chief. I mean you

2048
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 1: got uh, Joe Namath ended up with the Rams. I

2049
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: mean you can go down list even in history. Yes,

2050
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 1: it rarely ends well. And yeah, so what about Tom Well?

2051
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: And even look at some of the Hall of Famers

2052
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: just inducted and I didn't see any of that because

2053
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: I was traveling and everything else. But the names, not

2054
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 1: all of them, you know, had some storybook career for

2055
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 1: one franchise, so um, yeah, I don't think it'll be storybook. Um.

2056
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: You know Michael Strahan who I just mentioned went out

2057
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 1: after winning the championship. Jerome Bettist, I think one in

2058
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: Detroit on Town that is storybook. There's no doubt that storybook.

2059
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: But it doesn't happen that way. The NFL's cruel that way,

2060
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: it's unemotion schnol that way. On the side of see

2061
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: you later, and then sometimes emotional for the player. So

2062
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 1: I could Patriots have one card that nobody else has though,

2063
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: or at least at this point, for Tom Brady and

2064
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, it's the same thing they had when they

2065
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: had their rift about where they're gonna trade Tom instead

2066
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 1: of Jimmy is Robert Kraft? Yeah, I knew you were

2067
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 1: going to go there. Hill. He's a difference maker. Well yeah,

2068
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 1: and he's you know Brady, He's Brady's guy, right, so

2069
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: very close to Brady. Um, I think probably has tried

2070
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: to broker some compromises. Here's one thing I would tell

2071
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,520
Speaker 1: you about Bill Belichick. Friday, he had a press conference.

2072
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: Um kind of made fun of the media that we

2073
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: were already in mid season form because Friday was a

2074
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: lighter press attendance mode, trying to get a US jump

2075
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: on the weekend. But it was a very natural like

2076
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 1: It wasn't like weird. It was funny. He was funny

2077
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: and andy and he and a reporter kind of very

2078
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: good naturedly got into it. The reporter asked a bunch

2079
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: of questions in a row, and I believe Belichick thanked

2080
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: him for stopping his filibuster when he finally ended, but

2081
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: in a good way, and then he stayed to take

2082
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: more questions. You know, he's not some guy who just

2083
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 1: never gives a good answer or never entertains, you know,

2084
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: at a press conference in terms of entertaining questions and

2085
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: and even having a little bit of a sense of humor.

2086
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 1: But that's what we focus on, is the edge that

2087
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Speaker 1: he brings, and the edge that he brings is probably

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Speaker 1: why is they've won so much. Absolutely, Kim Jones from

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Speaker 1: NFL Network with taking your tour of NFL training camps

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Speaker 1: here in Pittsford for the Bills camp today, you did

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Speaker 1: spend time with the Jets. I did. It was Donald

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Speaker 1: there when you were there? Yep, he was there and

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Speaker 1: he was there this spring when I was there. Um start, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he could start. Um. You know, Josh McCown's the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in camp. Teddy Bridgewater was the best quarterback this spring.

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Speaker 1: He has not taken that into training camp. They just

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Speaker 1: had a scrimmage sort of a practice scrimmage. It's much

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Speaker 1: more practice than scrimmage at Rutger Saturday night than I

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Speaker 1: went to that. Um. Donald looked good. He took a

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Speaker 1: lot of the snaps. Now, there were a lot of

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Speaker 1: young players on the field. That was by design. Bulls

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Speaker 1: Todd Ball said, um, Josh McCown's the best quarterback on

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Speaker 1: this roster right now. Darnald looks the part. He does

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Speaker 1: some things really well. None of it has been against

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Speaker 1: the defense though, hell bent on stopping him yet. And

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Speaker 1: they're going to see Detroit the first game of the season.

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Speaker 1: They have seen Matt patricia defenses. You know, Grantity was

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Speaker 1: in New England and Bill Belichick was the head coach.

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Speaker 1: But the Jets have seen Matt Patricia defenses a lot,

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Speaker 1: and they've seen the Jet He's seen the Jets a lot,

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Speaker 1: So that would be a big challenge. The Jets have

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Speaker 1: three games in the first eleven days of the season.

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Speaker 1: They start on a Monday, go to a Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: then play on a Thursday. Well, that schedule alone leads

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Speaker 1: me to believe McCown will be their starter unless unless

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Speaker 1: Darnold simply, you know, you know, tears the door down

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Speaker 1: and is that much better than the others. Lundy Garga,

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Speaker 1: you saw Josh Allen. I loved him at the combine.

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Speaker 1: I mean he had one of the great combine throws

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Speaker 1: in the history of the city of Indianapolis that you

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Speaker 1: know that one down the sideline that seemed to cover

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Speaker 1: the whole field where the place like reacted. Now, I

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Speaker 1: understand there were some fans watching, but I'm not so

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Speaker 1: sure some NFL people didn't react to that. Though. I

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Speaker 1: really like Josh Allen. He was very nice at the Combine.

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate that I'm the reporter on the field.

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Speaker 1: Nice when the players play ball with you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He did so did Tremaine Edmunds. By the way, So

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Speaker 1: and So does so does the vast majority of players

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Speaker 1: at the combine. But I like him. I like that

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Speaker 1: he can move a little bit. A big man who

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Speaker 1: can move. The accuracy doesn't seem to be something that

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Speaker 1: the Bills are worked up about. They seem that. The

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Speaker 1: way it was kind of explain to me is that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the book on Josh Allen. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: it has to be our book on Josh Allen. I'm

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Speaker 1: paraphrasing all of that, but that's what I took away

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Speaker 1: from talking to Bills people today. They like him. I

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Speaker 1: do think he would have to be far and away

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback to start the season in this sense,

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Speaker 1: And Steve, you would know this better than I. The

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Speaker 1: locker room always knows, right. The players on the roster

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01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 1: always know you can't sell them. Well, you guys aren't

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Speaker 1: seeing what we're seeing. He's the best guy. So if

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Speaker 1: AJ mccaren's the best guy, he's gonna have to start.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that Josh Allen can't play. Now. They know

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Speaker 1: who the best and it's the best guy is not

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Speaker 1: the guy with the best future. It's the guy that

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Speaker 1: gives them a chance that day, right and that yeah,

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Speaker 1: that and that that right now, I would it's got

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Speaker 1: to boil down to a guy like AJ mccaren, no

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Speaker 1: question about now. And Plus it's a little bit like

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Speaker 1: you said with the Jets, where they have three games

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Speaker 1: eleven days. The Bills start out three or four on

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Speaker 1: the road, and they go to Minnesota, and they go

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01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:08,759
Speaker 1: to Green Bay, and they got the Chargers coming to Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough strep and to throw. If you want

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Speaker 1: him to have early success, those aren't the teams to

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Speaker 1: start him against. Well, and you want to look back

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Speaker 1: to me, it seems like three or four years ago.

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Speaker 1: It's ancient history. But Eli Manning's first season rookie season,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Warner is the quarterback, and they were either four

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Speaker 1: and three. I think they were five and four, and

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Speaker 1: Coughlin benched Warner four Eli for the good of the

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Speaker 1: future of the Giants. Now, guys like Strahan weren't happy

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Speaker 1: about it. I was covering the team. Then. They weren't

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Speaker 1: happy about it because they still had a shot at

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. They want to play in the plaoffs. I

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Speaker 1: understand it, but he was doing it for the good

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Speaker 1: of the franchise. But that was halfway or just over

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Speaker 1: halfway into a season. That's a different feel then starting

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Speaker 1: the season opener with a rookie and saying we're going

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Speaker 1: to swim with them, because because once you then replace him,

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Speaker 1: they can't. You can't go back. Got to be ready

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Speaker 1: to ride it out with him, no matter how bad

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01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:58,600
Speaker 1: it gets, because he's got to climb out of it

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Speaker 1: to gain his confidence back. And just let him sit.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna gain confidence watching, right, And that's the

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Speaker 1: issue if you start a rookie quarterback, because you got

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Speaker 1: to take him out. And what I would remind Bills

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Speaker 1: fans that season when he finally did become the starter,

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Speaker 1: um Eli Manning had a zero passer rating in a game. Zero.

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Speaker 1: And I remember talking to Derek Jeter because I went

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Speaker 1: on to cover the Yankees. It was late in that

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Speaker 1: season that Derek Jeter reached out to Eli, given him

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Speaker 1: kind of a New York pep talk, because he liked

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01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 1: the way he went about his business. He respected the

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Speaker 1: fact that he wasn't someone blaming other people or making excuses.

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Speaker 1: And he thought a young guy in that market might

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01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: need a little paddle on the back. It's probably right,

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01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: and he got one from Derek Jeter. You know, he

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Speaker 1: became a champion. No, it didn't hurt. It did not hurt.

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Speaker 1: It did not hurt. Maybe last question for you. Last

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Speaker 1: year the Bills ended that a visible seventeen year playoff rout. Says, yay,

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Speaker 1: we don't talk about that anymore. At second best team

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Speaker 1: in the AFC East last year, who's gonna be second best?

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna be second place in the AFC East? Do

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Speaker 1: you think this year? Well, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, listen, I understand seating the division, but at

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01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 1: some point there's going to be a drop off there

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Speaker 1: at some point the number of players either not available. Listen,

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Speaker 1: they're they're receiving core right now, wouldn't wouldn't scare you, right?

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily? You know, I understand they make the most

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Speaker 1: out of running backs, and it's just amazing what they

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Speaker 1: do with a running back position there. Right, they don't

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Speaker 1: have a left tackle right now, Nate Soldiers in New York,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Wynn, listen, I'm no talent evaluator. I think he's

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Speaker 1: about six feet tall, looks much more like a guard.

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Speaker 1: I think Trent Trent is a Trent Brown up there.

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Speaker 1: I might have the wrong name, but I think you

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01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 1: know right now he's he's a mammoth human being. But

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Speaker 1: he might be at left time. So there's some question

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01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 1: marks there. It's not all just let's plug everyone in

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Speaker 1: and go. You know you're signing Eric Decker. You have

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Speaker 1: a needed receiver, right you know that Jordan Matthews, as

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01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: you know, got hurt. So it's not all perfect. In

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, I know it's Belichick's defense, and Belichick

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Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna tell me he's more involved now with

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores than he was with Patricia. I'll buy that,

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01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 1: but it's it's not all so Bill's Dolph perfect here's

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Speaker 1: the question, though, Bill's Dolphin's Jets. Who's who's the best

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Speaker 1: among that those three? I think I do. I do.

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Speaker 1: My guests would be, having not seen the Dolphins, that

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Speaker 1: it's between the Bills and Jets, And ultimately it may

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Speaker 1: it might depend on which defense plays better. You got

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Speaker 1: pretty good? Yeah, pretty good. I love your secondary. I

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Speaker 1: saw him like a hide on the way and you

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Speaker 1: know he stopped for just a minute. So did Tredavious White,

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Speaker 1: who I you know, I love him. I mean the

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Speaker 1: LSU guys I cover. You know, it's a million of them,

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01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: it feels like, but um, the secondary is so good

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Speaker 1: here and oh and by the way, I mean love

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Speaker 1: with Tremaine Edmonds who I interviewed today, Lorenzo Alexander helping him.

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Speaker 1: You love that dynamic right of giving veteran there who's

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Speaker 1: willing to help a rookie? Yeah, and a play caller

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Speaker 1: at age twenty in the league, Steve honestly, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not joeing. I might ask our research team, which can

2238
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: get anything for me, if there's ever been a twenty

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Speaker 1: year old play caller on defense in the league twenty

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Speaker 1: years old. I'm not sure that has crafted him at night.

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Speaker 1: I know, it was ridiculous. And you talk to and

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Speaker 1: you talk to him, he's like fifty. He's incredibly impressive.

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01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: He really has just been around the block. Sean McDermott

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01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 1: told me he'd like to get a smile at out

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Speaker 1: of him once in a while because he's so serious.

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01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: But Edmonds told me he's studying constantly. He's making sure

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Speaker 1: that he can't let it. He won't let his teammates down.

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Speaker 1: And that interview, by the ways, on my Twitter account

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Speaker 1: kim Joan Sports if you want to check it out

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Speaker 1: with Tremaine Edmonds. But he's great. You know, I loved

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Speaker 1: everyone loved him at the comment. The one question is

2252
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: because I said to someone here, you know, he could

2253
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: be your middle linebacker for ten years, and they were like, yeah,

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01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 1: well we'll sign up for that. Now. He also could

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Speaker 1: move to another position. I mean at twenty years old,

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Speaker 1: he might still be growing. Sure, yeah, might turn into

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Speaker 1: a left tackle, ye maybe a defensive end. Giants tomorrow, okay,

2258
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: Jets Wednesday, but right now not on TV. But I

2259
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: have their game Friday, so I'll go Wednesday to just

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Speaker 1: get my last bit of reporting there and then our

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Speaker 1: all day stuff ends Wednesday. So then we're into the

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Speaker 1: preseason games and more more normal schedule coverage, but we

2263
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 1: run the heck out of preseason. James on NFL Network

2264
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 1: start click off the week exactly, and it's you get

2265
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: into it and man, all of a sudden, it's like

2266
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 1: it's January fifteen and you're freezing instead of right. It's like, what, No,

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Speaker 1: was it ever warm? Kim, thanks for the seventh grade.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having me. Kim Jones, NFL

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Speaker 1: Network Here at Bill's training camp. Steve and I back

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Speaker 1: with more one Bill's Live presented by Collada Health on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy

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Speaker 1: and Steve is. Welcome back to the show. John Murphy

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Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker live at Buffalo Bill's training Camp bomb

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Speaker 1: this Monday afternoon. We are back here again tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: then in Orchard Park the rest of the week. Our

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01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: thanks again to Kim Jones from NFL Network for joining us.

2277
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 1: I do say and we get you know, the national

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01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 1: people come through, Steve. It's it's impressive to me how

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01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 1: they keep track. You know. Kim Giants, Jets, Patriots, Bills

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Speaker 1: and she seems to have not only just a working knowledge,

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01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: but a pretty good insight into each of those teams,

2282
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: including the full of Bills. That's why I love having those.

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01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be hard, I think, to make the

2284
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Speaker 1: rounds of training camp and to keep everything straight it is.

2285
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 1: It is fun to hear somebody else's eyes, get somebody

2286
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 1: else's eyes on our team. You know, the team that

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01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 1: we sit here and watch every day and we have

2288
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff, and then they always ask

2289
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: us questions and and uh and for our opinions and

2290
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But they have their own set

2291
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 1: eyes and it's fun to hear their impressions. Because when

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01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 1: you come out and you see a practice with fresh eyes,

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Speaker 1: it may be the tenth practice of camp. We kind

2294
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: of evolve to the tenth. When they see the tenth,

2295
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: that's their first impression, and that's uh, that's interesting to

2296
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: get a different perspective on it. You're right, Kim's got

2297
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 1: a She mentioned it on her Twitter site at Kim

2298
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 1: Jones Sports a interview with Bills rookie middle linebacker Tremaine Edmonds.

2299
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: What's not the like? Right? She was raving about him

2300
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: in the break here just after we har it's hard

2301
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: to come up with any criticism of him, you know,

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01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: unless um, he's done everything right. Uh and and and

2303
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 1: in fact, I think the one thing that he's done,

2304
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: I think that's the most impressive, Murph is the fact

2305
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: that he's started to win the respect of the older

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01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 1: guys on the defense. And he started it very early

2307
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 1: and very quickly, but it has He has not taken

2308
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: a break from that. He continues to expand his ability

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01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 1: to carry that defense and be at the central guy

2310
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: in that defense and be somebody they just look at

2311
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 1: and don't see a twenty year old anymore. They see

2312
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 1: their guy, and he continues to get to that point

2313
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: with the veterans on this team, because, let's face it,

2314
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:32,679
Speaker 1: this is the You and I both know. The strength

2315
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 1: of the team right now is that defensive side of

2316
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: the football. And he continues to be the centerpiece of

2317
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: a twenty year old draft pick. He fits right into

2318
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 1: that and those guys are starting to rally around him,

2319
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 1: which is huge. Our Twitter question today, not a poll,

2320
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: but a question we'd like to address with you, Corey Coleman.

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01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: They traded for him last night. He should be here,

2322
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 1: I would think by now, undergoing to physical and probably

2323
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 1: on the field tomorrow, but wide receiver former first round

2324
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 1: draft pick. The Bill's got him for a seventh round

2325
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 1: pick in twenty twenty after the Corey Coleman trade. I mean,

2326
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 1: now I'm more comfortable with the Bills receiving corps heading

2327
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: into the season. Let us know what you think on

2328
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: Twitter or phone calls eight oh three oh five fifty

2329
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 1: the number to call in Buffalo. Outside Buffalo, it's a

2330
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: toll free call one eight eight eight five fifty two

2331
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 1: five fifty. Are you more comfortable with the Bills receiving

2332
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 1: cords now that they have Corey Coleman? From the tweet sheet,

2333
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: George Birch says, I think it's a great trade the

2334
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: Bills black speed at wide receiver. This could allow za

2335
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 1: Jones to move to the slot. Huh. I had not

2336
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: thought about that. Za Jones is just kind of slowly

2337
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 1: working back into the lineup. I think they have other

2338
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 1: people they're looking at it slot. Maybe they could do that,

2339
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 1: but I think right now Curly and Brandon Riley are

2340
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 1: the guys getting most of the reps on the slot.

2341
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: What do you think, Steve? I agree, but I think,

2342
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: like you said earlier in the thing, this is such

2343
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 1: a multiple offense. There's they're gonna put a guy in

2344
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,560
Speaker 1: the slot who gets a matchup that they like, and

2345
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 1: it could be could be Calvin Benjamin in there, it

2346
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 1: could be any one of the receivers that are on

2347
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 1: the field, or they could pull a guy, you know,

2348
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,560
Speaker 1: a fifth wide receiver. They like what he's got a

2349
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: skill set. It could be like an Austin Prole or

2350
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: a or a Robert Foster for that matter. If they

2351
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 1: like him in there, they'll they'll plug him in. And

2352
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 1: that's the difficulty in defending this offense. You don't know

2353
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,799
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from week to week, and because

2354
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 1: your defense is different than every other defense that the

2355
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: Bills have played up to that point, and the Bills

2356
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: are going to pick the guy they want to get

2357
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 1: that matchup in the slot. So yeah, but they need

2358
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: to find guys who can If they've got guys who

2359
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: can do that and play outside, those guys have a

2360
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 1: better chance of being on the field more And I

2361
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 1: think that's more likely with the scenario. It's not so

2362
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 1: much that they're finding a guy that can plain in

2363
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 1: the slot. They want everybody to be able to play

2364
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:41,640
Speaker 1: in the slot. They want everybody to be able to

2365
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 1: be the single receiver to the open side, and they

2366
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: don't want everybody to be the outside guy with a

2367
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: slot inside of him. Everybody's got to be able to

2368
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 1: do that stuff, and those are the kind of wide

2369
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 1: receivers that play in the National Football League. From the

2370
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Rob Spidel, we asked the question do

2371
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: you feel more comfortable about the Bills receiving corps after

2372
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: the trade for Corey Coleman. Spidel response sadly, I'd have

2373
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 1: to say no. If he weren't an Antonio Brown or

2374
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 1: Dez Bryan or Julio Jones quality receiver, I would think differently.

2375
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: But Buffalo needs a huge upgrade at the wide receiver position.

2376
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: Having a top tier receiver is a great safety blanket

2377
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 1: for a quarterback like Dez Bryant was for Prescott Court.

2378
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: You'd love to have a major upgrade. This could be

2379
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 1: a minor upgrade at a very low cost, Rob Spidel,

2380
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean I have a hard time poking holes in this.

2381
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 1: On August eighth, to get a former first round wide

2382
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 1: receiving pick who's twenty four years old, he was just

2383
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 1: a fifteenth overall pick in the draft, top half of

2384
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 1: the first draft two years ago to get him for

2385
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 1: a seventh rounder, that's pretty impressive to me. Is Julio Jones,

2386
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: Dez Brian Antonio Brown. No, he hasn't demonstrated that, but

2387
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 1: he could be pretty good. You got him for what

2388
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 1: you got Austin Prole for. Yeah. Yeah, that's a pretty

2389
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 1: good trade. That's a good trade. It's good trade. Chris

2390
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: Roleck and a year when you really need a guy. Yeah,

2391
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good deal. From the tweet sheet, Chris

2392
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: Rowle like, I'm excited for already to get here. I

2393
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: know he had a couple of injuries the past couple

2394
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 1: of years, but if he can stay healthy, he can

2395
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 1: provide us with a deep threat then I honestly did

2396
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 1: not think we had with our current receivers. That's a

2397
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 1: good point. It's not just who Corey Coleman is, you know,

2398
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 1: former first round pick, it's what he does, what he

2399
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 1: provides for this receiving core which, as Chris Rolla points out,

2400
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: they didn't really have a deep threat right. I mean,

2401
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: Foster was the drafted rookie, free agent, totally untested. Coleman's

2402
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 1: been around the league a little bit. He's caught some passes,

2403
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: not a Ton, but some and uh, it's what he

2404
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 1: provides to this group. I think that's important. I believe. Yeah,

2405
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 1: I think there's even more Mark Whalen tweet tweets and

2406
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 1: not more confident. What does it say about Brandon Riley?

2407
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Where does the confidence level? Where's the confidence level? How

2408
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 1: long will it take for the quarterbacks to feel comfortable

2409
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: throwing to him, meaning Coleman, especially with the quarterback situation unsettled?

2410
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 1: Is there enough time? We got into that Chris Brown. Yeah,

2411
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 1: we got into that with deep with Chris Brown about

2412
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,839
Speaker 1: how long will it take for a guy like Coleman

2413
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: to learn the offense, learn the route tree, learn the adjustments,

2414
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 1: learn to read defenses. You would think that at some

2415
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,879
Speaker 1: point he's and he's on the field for the Cleveland Browns,

2416
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 1: And albeit that the unsuccessful seasons the Browns have had

2417
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 1: with whoever was playing for them, he's proven himself to

2418
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 1: be able to get on the field for them and

2419
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 1: was pretty was fairly productive with Deshaun Kaiser throwing him

2420
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: the football and with two hand injuries that kept him

2421
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: out for the bulk of his two year career. So

2422
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how much comfort level he had, you know,

2423
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 1: or you know how settled he ever was playing wide

2424
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: receiver for the Browns, but he did get on the

2425
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: field for them, and they were throwing him the football

2426
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 1: in a number of occasions, so they had no trouble

2427
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 1: teaching him their offense. We'll see if the Bills can

2428
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 1: match that tweet sheet from Frank Barber says, I'm not

2429
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: saying Corey Coleman will be this successful, but Eric Malls

2430
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: had a very slow start to his career and it

2431
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 1: ended up just short of ten thousand yards. This is

2432
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 1: a fantastic move with little risk. He's the deep threat

2433
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: we desperately lacked. Well done, Brandon Bean. I love the

2434
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 1: Eric Moulds comparison, and I'm gonna go back right now

2435
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 1: and look at Eric Moulds numbers from his first couple

2436
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 1: of years in the league. See Eric Moulds was the

2437
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 1: first rookie. He was a first round draft pick when

2438
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 1: I was still playing with the team, and a phenomenal

2439
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 1: athlete and a guy who who came in to a

2440
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 1: very veteran football club who had high expectations, and he

2441
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: played for a head coach didn't like to play rookies,

2442
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: Marv Levy, and I think he was put into the

2443
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 1: lineup early and turned into as good a wide receivers.

2444
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 1: This maybe not numbers wise. I'm not gonna go into statistics,

2445
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 1: but Eric Molds was as good a wide receiver as

2446
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 1: this franchise has ever had put on the uniform. All right,

2447
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 1: I'll get into six. His rookie year nineteen ninety six,

2448
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: Eric Molds twenty catches, two hundred and seventy nine yards,

2449
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. His second year in nineteen ninety seven, played

2450
01:57:57,080 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 1: all sixteen games, twenty nine catches, no touchdowns. Um Corey

2451
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 1: Coleman had more catches in his first two years in

2452
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 1: Eric Molds, more touchdowns. Molds exploded in ninety eight when

2453
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips plugged him into the lineup right. Wade was

2454
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 1: coaching then ninety eight sixty seven catches, thirteen hundred yards,

2455
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. Well, he came into the league of ninety six,

2456
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: and it was it was Todd Jim's last seven and

2457
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 1: when they didn't want to play a rookie, ninety seven

2458
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 1: was Todd Collins, and then ninety eight they had the

2459
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 1: Doug Flutie Rob Johnson era began and Wade Phillips was

2460
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 1: a head coach and everything changed, and that's the kind

2461
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 1: of change that maybe Corey Coleman's looking to make here

2462
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, just a new look and a fresh start.

2463
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that kind of thing is in It's kind of

2464
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 1: the fresh start that Eric Molds had, although albeit with

2465
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 1: the same team with Wade Phillips. With Wade Phillips, here's

2466
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 1: a call on this topic, Matt calling from Toronto. Go ahead, Matt,

2467
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey guys, how are you today? Okay? Great? Um, So,

2468
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: a couple of things Rix's wanted to throw and then

2469
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:00,560
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and letting him. I think trade is

2470
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. You're not giving up much in

2471
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: draft capital at most of the round pick is gonna

2472
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 1: be a priority uncrafted free agent Corey Coleman. I've seen

2473
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about the comparison with Nelson

2474
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: agil Or had a lot of problems with drops his

2475
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 1: first couple of years, and look what he did last year.

2476
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I think what's

2477
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 1: happened here is that guys are going to be slotted

2478
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 1: in properly. You know, Corey Coleman can be the burner

2479
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 1: out wide and you don't have to stretch the field

2480
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 1: as much with Benjamin because he hasn't really proven that

2481
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: he can do that. And my question to you guys is,

2482
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: does that now move they Jones into the slot where

2483
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: he was comfortable in college and was a vacuum making

2484
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: all those catches. Do you think that that's how these

2485
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 1: guys are going to slot in that once they gets

2486
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 1: healthy enough to get back in, I'll hang up and listen. Okay,

2487
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's if everything falls. But here's the thing,

2488
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,760
Speaker 1: and I just said it a minute ago. They've worked

2489
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin at the slot during this training camp as well.

2490
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 1: Zay Jones. We have yet to see him on the

2491
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 1: field in any competitive manner. And Corey Coleman is not

2492
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:12,760
Speaker 1: even a bill yet and we don't even know if

2493
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:16,280
Speaker 1: he's passed his physical yet. But yeah, that all, yeah,

2494
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 1: in a scenario that foreseeable. Yeah, absolutely. You get those

2495
02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: two guys like Kelvin Benjamin and uh Corey Coleman on

2496
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 1: the field and all of a sudden, you've got two

2497
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: pretty good athletes now. And you're right, Calvin Benjamin is

2498
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 1: not a field stretcher. He's not a speed guy on

2499
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 1: the outside. He is an enormous target and a guy

2500
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: that has a huge catch radius and wins more than

2501
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 1: his share of fifty fifty balls. Corey Coleman, same type

2502
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 1: of player, a physically gifted guy with a lot of speed,

2503
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 1: who you're gonna he can take the lid off the

2504
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 1: field with and he's gonna have to be covered deep

2505
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 1: and he's gonna stretch the field and make put more

2506
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 1: pressure on the defense. Zay Jones, and lets let's face it,

2507
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 1: he's a question mark at best. He had a he

2508
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 1: had ann productive first year with the Bills. He's coming

2509
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: off a knee injury and an offseason where they cast

2510
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 1: a lot of doubts on his ability to come back

2511
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:11,760
Speaker 1: and be a dedicated and serious pro. We'll see if

2512
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 1: that happens. But if all those questions are answered, I'm

2513
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:18,120
Speaker 1: thinking that they probably all won't be answered in it

2514
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:20,640
Speaker 1: with an emphatic wow, oh yes they did it. It'll

2515
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 1: probably be some player between that and no way. You know,

2516
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 1: it'll be a gray area for all three of those guys.

2517
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 1: And how those mesh is going to be what the

2518
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 1: team looks like offensively. I mean, and that's even if

2519
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:31,640
Speaker 1: if Corey Coleman comes in and can pick up everything,

2520
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there's so many questions. There are questions,

2521
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 1: but you can certainly picture in your mind's eye a

2522
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 1: best case scenario easily. It's all about getting they gotta

2523
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, the focus on offense has been to get

2524
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 1: the pass offense better. You're gonna have a new quarterback

2525
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 1: and to get everything better. Brandon Being talked about that today,

2526
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman his addition in the whole the whole package,

2527
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: they Jones back in the lineup, the Buffalo Bill's pass offense.

2528
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 1: How do you get better? What does this do for you?

2529
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 1: Here's what Brandon Being said this morning about that topic. Yeah, well,

2530
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 1: we're looking at this season as a fresh start, um

2531
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 1: just from you know, we we brought in Brian dave

2532
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:10,040
Speaker 1: Ball and new system, new energy, new knew everything, and

2533
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: we got some new quarterbacks to you know, Nathan Peterman's

2534
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 1: the only guy returning. So those guys. None of the

2535
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:19,560
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks were here. Brian dave Ball wasn't here, you said,

2536
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,680
Speaker 1: Sean and I aren't here. So we're just we're not

2537
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:25,200
Speaker 1: looking back, We're looking forward, and uh, we like where

2538
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:27,080
Speaker 1: we're headed, but we have not arrived. We know we

2539
02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do. As you might

2540
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: have expect Brandon being I don't know, cautious conservative and

2541
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 1: what he anticipates from his passing game. But we talked

2542
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: to him, You and I talked to him afterwards to

2543
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 1: see clearly they're not touting this Corey Coleman trade is like, hey,

2544
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 1: we've just fixed everything. We just saw the Brockbuster trade.

2545
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 1: It's not right, it's not but there's potential, particularly on

2546
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:52,480
Speaker 1: the Bills side of it. Now you know, you can

2547
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:54,040
Speaker 1: say what you want about the Browns that to me,

2548
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick in two years is nothing but

2549
02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 1: trade bait for a later moved for the Browns. Um

2550
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to trade Corey Coleman thinking he might not

2551
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 1: make their team anyway, given the moves that they've made.

2552
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:07,280
Speaker 1: A wide receiver, and that's a guy that gets caught

2553
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:10,600
Speaker 1: in the in the UH, gets caught in the numbers,

2554
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:14,640
Speaker 1: and so I think, right, there's a lot up in

2555
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 1: the air. But the potential is on the side of

2556
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in this in this deal. You were there,

2557
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 1: You and I were there this morning for Brandon Bean.

2558
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:24,320
Speaker 1: I love his demeanor at these press conferences, even when

2559
02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 1: they make a big move like this. He's never over

2560
02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:28,760
Speaker 1: selling it. He's never telling you this is we just

2561
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 1: made a major move here, you know what I mean?

2562
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: He always downplays there's a lot of a lot of

2563
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: things that have to happen before you can even make

2564
02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:37,000
Speaker 1: a judgment on it. He's you're right, Murph. He does

2565
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: have a great demeanor about it because you don't feel

2566
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:42,520
Speaker 1: like he's trying to sell you anything. He says, this

2567
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 1: is the move we made, this is why we made it. Thanks,

2568
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:49,960
Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by exactly and you know it's great.

2569
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I I agree with it completely. Why are

2570
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 1: you trying to sell a trade that has already been made?

2571
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 1: And I liked I like the logic of it. He

2572
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,000
Speaker 1: admitted that it was Listen, is a cheap way to

2573
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:02,640
Speaker 1: get a great athlete on the field, and we'll see

2574
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 1: if we can form him into what a guy that

2575
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: can help us. Yeah, what else did you get out

2576
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 1: of branding today? You know, there's a lot of stuff,

2577
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 1: and they're all the thing I got, and we said

2578
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 1: it a little earlier. The fact of the matter is

2579
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:14,320
Speaker 1: that you know they're on it all the time, and

2580
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 1: then they're never letting up anything he said. He says,

2581
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 1: somebody asked him too and we've we've touched on this

2582
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 1: during the day too, about is this an indictment over

2583
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 1: where the receivers are now? Is nobody like showing up

2584
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:26,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they think they're wide receiver corps?

2585
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 1: Stinks And they got to bring a guy in he says, Now,

2586
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:30,600
Speaker 1: it's not like that, he said, we're just trying to

2587
02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 1: get better. And this is the guy that is A

2588
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 1: is a great athlete. He has a top notch a

2589
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 1: top flight ability, physical abilities, he's very fast, and he's

2590
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 1: got a little bit of experience. And for a seventh

2591
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 1: round pick, that's more than you'll get for a seventh

2592
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 1: round pick, even if you pick a guy so um

2593
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 1: that potential. So it's a cheap, cheap trade with a

2594
02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 1: with a big upside. And they think too, with a

2595
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 1: fresh start, that helps a lot of guys. And they

2596
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:57,560
Speaker 1: think that they got that going for him on the

2597
02:04:57,720 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: for the coaching staff, and for the for the vibe

2598
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:02,280
Speaker 1: they've got. I think, you know, thinking about Murphy, this

2599
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 1: just occurred to me, this may be one of those

2600
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 1: and I know that this is they get all these

2601
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:09,960
Speaker 1: wonderful guys in here. And we had to Kim Jones

2602
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 1: just a minute ago, how great all these young guys are,

2603
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:15,320
Speaker 1: and how well adjusted they are, and how professional and

2604
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:19,520
Speaker 1: serious they are about their thing. Maybe Corey Coleman, despite

2605
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:21,440
Speaker 1: whatever problems he might have had or might have or

2606
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 1: might not have had in Cleveland, maybe they think they

2607
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 1: can absorb him in and mold him. You know they can.

2608
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they say, listen, our culture is gonna make this

2609
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,800
Speaker 1: guy better. Maybe maybe they do feel that way. There's

2610
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:34,800
Speaker 1: culture is strong enough now to do that with some gettings.

2611
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:36,800
Speaker 1: And let's face it, Brandy being called it a low

2612
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 1: risk gamble, and that's what makes it. Haven't done moved

2613
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:42,200
Speaker 1: theyn't kick him with the curve? What do they lost? Yeah, hey,

2614
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:44,400
Speaker 1: practice today, we're on opposite sides of the field. For

2615
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 1: a long time I watched them. I think you were

2616
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 1: watching seven on seven. I was down at nine one

2617
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:51,520
Speaker 1: seven for a while. Run game live tackling was pretty

2618
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:54,240
Speaker 1: entertaining and it was very physical. It was fun to watch. Yeah,

2619
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:57,000
Speaker 1: they did a little live tackling Friday night at at

2620
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: the stadium. I don't know if they did anything out

2621
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 1: of here yesterday live tackling, but uh, I was impressed

2622
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,000
Speaker 1: that McDermott doesn't you know, let's cut it, Lucy, you know,

2623
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 1: and it was a long session of life. It seems

2624
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:08,880
Speaker 1: really strange to see, doesn't it. I never see it

2625
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,080
Speaker 1: last year. You never saw you know, you never see

2626
02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 1: live tackling anymore in in practice for obvious reasons. And

2627
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 1: yet you know, we saw it a couple of times.

2628
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:20,280
Speaker 1: I saw Friday night and then today too. It was like,

2629
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 1: you forget how compelling it is. You stand there, you

2630
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:25,920
Speaker 1: can't you can't take your eyes off. I know, you

2631
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:27,840
Speaker 1: can't take your eyes. It's real, and it's in front

2632
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 1: of violet. It's pretty cool. It's noisy and violet. It's

2633
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 1: fun to be remind you of how cool it is

2634
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 1: to see a real game. Yeah, yeah, what else did

2635
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 1: you get from practice today? Well? Um, yeah, you know

2636
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 1: he got the stuff about the last thing, the last

2637
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 1: note I got, and it was not It was just

2638
02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 1: a little bump in the road. And I don't think

2639
02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:49,200
Speaker 1: it's going to amount to anything because you know the

2640
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:52,440
Speaker 1: stuff that Calvin Benjamin said about cam Newton, he what

2641
02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:54,800
Speaker 1: about he he and he was really he shrugged off,

2642
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:56,400
Speaker 1: he goes listen. We wish Kelvin would have handled it

2643
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 1: differently than that. But um, for those of you don't know.

2644
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 1: He said he he kind of disparaged Cam Newton in

2645
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:04,920
Speaker 1: his career with Carolina. He didn't think not so much

2646
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 1: disparaging Cam Newton, although that was part of it. Mostly

2647
02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 1: what I got out of it was that Benjamin acknowledged

2648
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 1: openly that it was not a good fit for him

2649
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 1: being in Carolina, and I think he was acknowledging. You

2650
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 1: talk about a guy like Corey Coleman, Benjamin acknowledged that

2651
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:23,320
Speaker 1: this change has been really really good for him. Yeah,

2652
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:26,720
Speaker 1: really good for him. It was funny. Greg Olson, long

2653
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:29,560
Speaker 1: time Panthers say, then was asked about Calvin Benjamin's comments.

2654
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 1: He said, it's kind of weird. So I think we

2655
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:35,280
Speaker 1: wish Calvin the best. Obviously things changed, but we've talked

2656
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,520
Speaker 1: at length about guys around here feel about Cam. Obviously

2657
02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 1: you don't like people went after your quarterback, but I

2658
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:44,839
Speaker 1: think Cam knows how the guys here feel about him. Whatever.

2659
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't get a whole lot out of that.

2660
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 1: Calvin Beniman I think is happier here. He certainly is

2661
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 1: is well conditioned now, which he wasn't when he got

2662
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 1: here last October thirty first. And you know it didn't

2663
02:07:57,320 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 1: work out for him there. Who knows what he's harboring, right,

2664
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that big an issue. Yeah,

2665
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:03,400
Speaker 1: I didn't either. I didn't either, And it was it

2666
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:05,400
Speaker 1: was interesting and most of this, most of the press.

2667
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 1: That was, like the last sentence he said as he left,

2668
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 1: most of it was, you know. They asked him about

2669
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 1: his relationship with John Dorsey, the general manager of the Browns,

2670
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 1: who had been with Kansas City. And this is three,

2671
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:18,080
Speaker 1: well three deals, not two of them were pretty major deals.

2672
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:21,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean had three dealings with or the Bills have

2673
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 1: with John Dorsey when he was with the Chiefs last

2674
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 1: year for the Mahomes deal and then this year with

2675
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:32,240
Speaker 1: this deal here, and also the Tyrod Taylor trade. So

2676
02:08:32,480 --> 02:08:35,839
Speaker 1: there's been some pretty good exchanges between the two organizations

2677
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:37,640
Speaker 1: that John Dorsey has been a part of over the

2678
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:39,919
Speaker 1: last eighteen months. And they asked him about his relationship.

2679
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:41,920
Speaker 1: He said that he was maybe I do talk to

2680
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:44,400
Speaker 1: him a little bit more than other general managers, but

2681
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:47,320
Speaker 1: he kind of poo pooed the idea that it was

2682
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:50,280
Speaker 1: they had some sort of special relationship that where they

2683
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:52,800
Speaker 1: trusted each other more. Let's take another call here, Rick

2684
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 1: in southern California, go ahead, Rick, you're on the air

2685
02:08:54,840 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 1: with us. How great? Right? Thank you? Good? Hey, really

2686
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:05,520
Speaker 1: quick before I get to the twitterfoll Steve, I want

2687
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:07,880
Speaker 1: to say thank you to you, my friend. You gave

2688
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:10,240
Speaker 1: me and my buddy a whole new drinking game out

2689
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 1: here in California. Every time you say the word listen,

2690
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 1: we all have to take a shot. I want to Oh,

2691
02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:20,680
Speaker 1: you might have blown it. Now I might have blown it. Now,

2692
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:25,280
Speaker 1: let's let's listen. Let's listen. Listen, listen, listen. I always

2693
02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 1: feel like that Rick when he says I feel looking

2694
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 1: around for a shot. Now, I'm gonna have to go

2695
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 1: back and listen. I'm gonna have to you know what.

2696
02:09:31,160 --> 02:09:33,160
Speaker 1: He's gotta listen to myself. Now, how long you've been

2697
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 1: on the show April and of April? Yeah, have you

2698
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:37,880
Speaker 1: ever seen the shot? You ever watch on TV? Rick?

2699
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 1: He does this, He'll go listen and it'll hit me.

2700
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 1: I do I do that? Last week? I said, don't

2701
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 1: hit me again. It's nice, and it's nice in training

2702
02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:46,720
Speaker 1: camp as you were closer together. We're in the studio,

2703
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:49,840
Speaker 1: I can't reach you. Go ahead, Rick, you got something else. Well,

2704
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm not as wet as young as I used to be.

2705
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 1: It turns into anywhere from nine to fifteen shots a

2706
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 1: day now, so I gotta watch. That's not too bad.

2707
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: That's only a couple of times an hour, it is.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, my friends. I really like the move

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Speaker 1: with Coleman interview. You can just stay healthy. I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna take all the negative taste out of our

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Speaker 1: mouth about Sammy walking. And for the price that we

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Speaker 1: got him for. I think Brandon Bean deserves a frigging

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Speaker 1: metal you know. I think it was a really good

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Speaker 1: I really, really really hope he stays healthy. Me too.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Rick, we gotta run, Thank you very much. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break. Steve and I back with more.

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Speaker 1: We had a good show today, like what do you

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Speaker 1: got tangled up? Micah Hyde joined the show earlier today,

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Speaker 1: Bill Safety, Micah Hyde and he talked about how this

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Speaker 1: Buffalo defense can and will improve this year. I think

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Speaker 1: everybody on this defense is motivated. You know, coach talks

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Speaker 1: about all the time with the tip on your shoulder.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys on this defense and on this team

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Speaker 1: have have been overlooked and and you know the guys

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Speaker 1: that we brought in kind of have that same same message.

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Speaker 1: So m like I said, I'm excited for what those

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna do it. PROMI excided for us in

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Speaker 1: the back end. I'm excited for this team in general.

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Speaker 1: Micah Hide, Bill Safety, you joined us in the one

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour. Just a little bit ago this hour, Kim

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Speaker 1: Jones joined us. Kim Jones joined US reporter NFL Network

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Speaker 1: on a tour of camps all over the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: we asked her which team does she think will finish

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Speaker 1: second behind the Patriots in the AFC East. Here's what

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Speaker 1: she said, My guests would be having not seen the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: but that it's between the Bills and Jets, and ultimately

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Speaker 1: it made it might depend on which defense plays better.

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Speaker 1: You got pretty good, Yeah, pretty good. I love your secondary.

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Speaker 1: I saw him like a hide on the way and

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Speaker 1: you know he stopped for just a minute. So did

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Speaker 1: Tredavious White who I you know, I love him. I

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Speaker 1: mean the LSU guys I cover. You know, it's a

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Speaker 1: million of them. It feels like right, but um, the

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Speaker 1: secondary is so good here. And oh and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I mean love with Tremaine Edmunds who I interview today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander helping him. You love that dynamic right of

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Speaker 1: giving veteran there who's willing to help a rook Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and a play caller at age twenty in the league

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Speaker 1: Kim Jones raving about the Buffalo defense. She said she's

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Speaker 1: going to have her researchers there at the NFL network

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Speaker 1: look into that. Uh you start to think about play caller,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, play caller in the in the

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Speaker 1: defensive senses, get the pall from the call from the

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Speaker 1: side lens and relay it. He's not actually calling defenses,

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Speaker 1: but still it's a lot on his plate. Tremaine Edmunds

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Speaker 1: and even play in the NFL, let alone, you know,

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Speaker 1: call call the signal. So yeah, that's it's a short

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Speaker 1: list whoever it is. So we'll see, we'll see if

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Speaker 1: they come up with that. Stad What did you what

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Speaker 1: did you learn from todays show, Steve, what was the

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Speaker 1: most interesting thing was? I love watching practice today. I

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Speaker 1: thought Josh Allen Threw made a couple of through a

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Speaker 1: handful of throws that were special. Um, he looked accurate. Um.

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Speaker 1: The quarterbacks played very well. It was an up tempo practice.

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Speaker 1: I'm really impressed with the vibe coming out of the

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Speaker 1: practice field. They seemed crisp. Everybody seems on it. Um,

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Speaker 1: the attitude is fantastic. It's been a I think thus

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Speaker 1: Foreign training has been an outstanding training camp, NFL training camp,

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Speaker 1: and I think you gotta tip your hat to Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermot from Make Cannon has. I learned once again today

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Speaker 1: that Chris brown is really a Debbie Downer, right. I

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Speaker 1: was pretty excited about Corey Coleman, but he just shot

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Speaker 1: at the pieces. No, that's all I get it. It's

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Speaker 1: Corey Coleman. You know he's not the I think Brownie's

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Speaker 1: Spirit's been for I really do. Hey want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for tuning in today, and thank our production assistant

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Colton, like Thomas Honlder, Kelly Rude, j

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Speaker 1: J Gurto, Kevin Cartis and James robell Our producer Jay

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Speaker 1: Harri We will see you tomorrow. We got a good

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Speaker 1: show tomorrow and we think Corey Coleman is going to

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Speaker 1: be on the show with this year tomorrow Where you

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Speaker 1: start at twelve noon tomorrow. One Bill's Life, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalada Health from Bill's training camp on Buffalo Bill's Radio