1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Live from the Bloomberg Interact, a Broker's studios. This is 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg day Break for a Friday, March tenth. Coming up today, 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: stocks drop on concern over the health of the US 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: banking system. Will Street braces for the jobs report After 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: last month's big surprise, President Biden kicks off a Washington 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: spending fight with a nearly seven trillion dollar budget, and 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: China's Jan Ping unanimously wins a third term as president. 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: A New York Man jailed for eighteen years for a 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: crime he did not commit, is free bus death penalty deliberations, 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: and Manhattan to get a snag in the case of 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: a terrorist. I'm John Tucker. More Ahead, I'm John Stashafard. Sports, 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: the Nixon Nets, Boat Lost, the Rangers, Islanders, and Devils 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: all one season ending loss for Saint John's. That's all 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: straight Ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The Business news you 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: need to sturn your day, and just one fifteen minute 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: podcast each pointing on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business Appen 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: and I'm Cameron Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: Panic is spreading across the startup world. It's due to 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: worries about the financial health of Silicon Valley Bank, a 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: major lender to fledgling companies. Svb's top executive is urging 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: clients to stay calm, but Peter Teel's founders fund and 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: other venture capitalists are advising their portfolio businesses to withdraw 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: their money. We get more from Bloomberg Investing editor Russell Ward. 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: A sellof started when SPB and announced plans to raise 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: more than two billion dollars and a share sale to 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: show up capital. This is after it was forced to 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: sell assets at a significant loss following a drop in deposits. Now, 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: as its name suggests, the bank caters to startups in 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley, which it says has been burning through cash 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: during the slump in tech investment, and now startups are 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: rushing to withdraw their cash from the bank. Bloomberg's Russell 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: Award says SVB shares plunged sixty percent yesterday. This morning, 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: they're down another thirty percent. Well, Nathan, another influential name 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: on Wall Street, is urging investors to stay calm. Muhammadalarian 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: says US banks can contain contagion risk and system stress 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: stemming from the turmoil at Silicon Valley Bank. In a 38 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: tweet this morning that Sherman of Grammarcy Funds and Bloomberg 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: opinion columnists said the US banking system is solid as 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: a whole, but that doesn't mean every bank is well. 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: Along with the banking turmoil this morning, Karen wall Street 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: is also bracing for the February jobs report after last 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: month's huge surprise. Economists are looking for a gain of 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: two hundred twenty five thousand jobs. We get more from 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Michael McKee. January's jobs report turned the financial world 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: on its head. More than half a million jobs created, 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: the government said, almost three times what was forecast. The 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: FED slowing the pace of rate increases, is now expected 49 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: to tighten more and faster unless the February numbers reverse course, 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: and that is possible. Economists say the January report was 51 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: boosted by unexpectedly good weather and annual statistical adjustments. It 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: might be revised lower and estimates put February's job gains 53 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: back at trend. Another surprise, though at expect a lot 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: of market turmoil. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak, Orry Michael Thank you. 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: We now turned to the fight over spending and the debt. 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: In Washington, President Biden has unveiled his budget requests for 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: the next fiscal year. The six point nine trillion dollars 58 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: package would boost spending on a whole range of programs 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: and pay for it with new taxes on the wealthy incorporations. Now, 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: the President says that ball is in Republicans court. I'm 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: ready to meet with the Speaker anytime tomorrow. If he 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: has his budget, lay it down, tell me what you 63 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: want to do. I'll show you what I want to do. 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: See where we can agrant it. We don't agree, un 65 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Let's see what we vote on. President Biden announced his 66 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: budget in Philadelphia. Republicans have called for at least one 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty billion dollars in spending cuts. The president 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: would race spending by seventy seven billion next year and 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: add five and a half trillion in taxes over a 70 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: decade later. Today, President Biden welcomes the leader of the 71 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: European Union, La Vanderline to the White House. They plan 72 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: to talk trade, the war in Ukraine, and future leadership. 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Amy Morris has a preview from our Bloomberg ninety nine 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: One newsroom in Washington, the two sides are expected to 75 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: agree to a plan allowing European firms to benefit from 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: some of the subsidies for batteries offered only to US producers. 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: That deal would also showcase the strength of the Transatlantic 78 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: alliance and supporting Ukraine against Russia's invasion. Now, as for Ukraine, 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: the US and EU will consider strategies to step up 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: production of military equipment, but there are questions over funding. 81 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: EU officials are also looking at its relationship with the 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: US if President Biden doesn't win reelection, and vonder lyons 83 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: term also ends next year in Washington, I'm Amy Moore's 84 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Day Break. All right, Amy, thank you. Meanwhile, the 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: legal pressure may be close to a breaking point for 86 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: former President Donald Trump. Multiple media outlets are reporting Manhattan's 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: district attorney is moving toward a criminal indictment, and Bloomberg's 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: said Baxter has the latest. D A Alvin Bragg has 89 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: offered Trump the opportunity to appear before the grand jury 90 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: investigating his role in a payment to Stormy Daniels before 91 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election in New York. It's called the 92 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: cross notice and is given to objects of investigations before 93 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: a formal indictment is handed down. Trump spokesperson says Trump 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: was a victim of extortion then he is now. It's 95 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: an embarrassment to the Democratic prosecutors and an embarrassment to 96 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: New York City. In San Francisco, I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak. 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: Thanks d turning overseas, it is a unanimous vote from 98 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: lawmakers in China, granting Shijin Ping and unprecedented third term 99 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: as president. Bloomberg Daybreak Asia anchor Brian Curtis has more 100 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: from Hong Kong. She won the vote twenty nine hundred 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: and fifty two to zero. It gives him five more 102 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: years in power and demonstrates his solid grip on the 103 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Communist Party. She was also reappointed chairman of the Central 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Military Commission. In other moves, the NPC installed former graft 105 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: chief Joo Ledge as its new leader. It gave the 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: vice presidency to Han Jung, who replaces Wang Chi Shan. Now, 107 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the balloting here was all procedural, there was no doubt 108 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: about the outcome in Hong Kong. Brian Curtis, Bloomberg Daybreak. 109 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: All right, Brian, thanks. While staying in Asia, the Bank 110 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: of Japan maintained its easing stance as Governu Haruhiku Kuroda 111 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: held his final meeting after a decade of massive stimulus. 112 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: The decision came shortly after Parliament formally approved Kazoo o 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: Ueeda to succeed Kuroda in April. It's thirty five degrees 114 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: in New York. We've got showers possible late today. Winter 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: weather advisories in fact north of the city. Starting at 116 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: six tonight. We're gonna get up to the mid forties 117 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: down to the upper thirties tonight as that snow begins. 118 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: Time now to take a look at some of the 119 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: other stories making news in New York and around the 120 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: world that We're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. Good morning John, 121 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: and Good morning Nathan. A New York man has been 122 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: released from prison eighteen years empty who was convicted of 123 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: murder based on a mistaken identification. Sheldon Thomas, was arrested 124 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: for it two thousand and four murder after witness identified 125 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: a different person with the same name and a photo array. 126 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: The Brooklyn District Attorney's office reinvestigated the case and discovered 127 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: police concealed the mistake and then explained it away in court. 128 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: District attorney Eric Gonzalez. I met with mister Thomas. You know, 129 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: he was very emotional. I apologized to him and as 130 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: you heard, for himself, he wants to move forward with 131 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: his life. He has a loving family. Thomas's attorney, William Caston, 132 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: says the wrongful conviction put his client behind Barnes for 133 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: more than half his life, and now being released when 134 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: he's thirty five. Where does he start. He doesn't have housing, 135 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: he missed the opportunity to go to college. He doesn't 136 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: have health insurance. Meanwhile, Thomas says he wanted to thank 137 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: everyone who believed in his innocence. A death penalty deliberations 138 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: in Manhattan hit a snag in the case of a 139 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: convicted Isa's terrorist deliberations starting anew after one of the 140 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: jurors was dismissed due to a family emergency and replaced 141 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: with an author The jury is considering whether syfellow Sypov 142 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: deserves the death penalty for killing eight people with a 143 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: truck in a twenty seventeen attack. Wells Nathan mentioned at 144 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: the top of the program old Man Winter isn't done 145 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: yet with the New York area and let's get the update. 146 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg meteorologists Rob called morning Ron John. This next storm 147 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: system is mainly a rain event in the city, but 148 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: inland that's where we have winter weather advisories. From six 149 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: pm this evening through ten am tomorrow. A lot of 150 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: the northern and western suburbs are probably going to see 151 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: three to six inches of heavy wet snow from this storm. 152 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Even in the city. It may mix with wet snow 153 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: leader tonight and into tomorrow. Morning John. All right, thanks Rob. 154 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: A German police say eight people were killed in a 155 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: shooting at a Jehovah's witness hall in Hamburg, including the 156 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: alleged gunman. Still no word on a positive motive for 157 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: the shooting, and President Vladimir Zelenski has urged a rapid 158 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: or repair of energy infrastructure and areas hit by a 159 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: fresh barrage of Russian missile attacks come power to hundreds 160 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: of thousands in Ukraine. The White town Sends. At least 161 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: a eleven Ukrainians died in the attacks, including five near 162 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: the western city of Leviv. Global News twenty four hours 163 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: a day powered five more than twenty seven hundred journalists 164 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: and analysts and over one hundred twenty countries. I'm John Tuncker. 165 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: This he is Bloomberg. Nathan. Thank you John. Time for 166 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Sports Update FRONTI by tri stayed out here. 167 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: Good morning, John Stashamber him morning, Nathan Rare night. Were 168 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: all five New York Area NBA and NHL teams played 169 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: all five on the road. The hoop teams lost, the 170 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: hockey teams won, none of them in a regulation. Nicks 171 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: began a four game trip out West. Zacharimento, much improved, 172 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: tied for second in the West, and the Kings went 173 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: up by sixteen at the half and Nick rally fell short. 174 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: They lost one twenty two, one seventeen, Demantes Savona's twenty 175 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: four points to the triple double. Like the last game 176 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: the lost to Charlotte Knicks, shooting was off. Julius Randall, 177 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: R J. Barrett Emmanuel quickly together four of twenty eight 178 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: on three pointed. Road trip continues tomorrow in LA against 179 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: the Clippers net for in Milwaukee. Even though the Bucks 180 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: didn't have Yannis done to the company sore hand, they 181 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: still won one eighteen one thirteen and they've won nineteen 182 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: their last twenty. Rangers first game since last Satury A. 183 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: Four three shootout win at Montreal. Patrick Kane got his 184 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: first Ranger goal that tied the game. Devil's also wanted 185 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: to shootout three two at Washington. The Islands won an 186 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: overtime four three at Pitts for a Big East tournament. 187 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Near upset went for Saint John's with the Red Storm. 188 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: Season came to an end an overtime loss to Marquette. 189 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: Wins for Rutgers in the Big Ten and Fordham in 190 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ten. Another Yankee starting pitcher is injured, Carlos Vigona, 191 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: and the Yanks key offseason pickoff as a mild elbow stranger. 192 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: It's just kind of early to throw through things right now, 193 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: I would say, so I want to be, you know, 194 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy going. I mean, obviously not all 195 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: of the start going to be one hundred percent, only 196 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, at least mentally hundred percent healthy. Of Brander 197 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: pitch the season with the injury coming you after the 198 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: one to Frankie Mantas, that one likely season ending sounds 199 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: like Rudona. They missed in a couple of starts. John 200 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: Stash Bluebird spools from coast to coast, from New York 201 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, Boston to Washington, DC nationwide on Sirius XAM, 202 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is 203 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hagar. We are watching 204 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: banking stocks in the US and around the world slide 205 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: lower this morning thanks to turmoil at a bank that 206 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: provides a lot of the lifeblood for Silicon Valley startup. 207 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley Bank SVB has announced a sudden fundraising effort 208 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: that's led the likes of Peter Teel and other venture 209 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: capitalists to advise their clients to pull out. Let's bring 210 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: in Danny Burger, Bloomberg television anchor and markets correspondent for 211 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: more on what's happening at SVB in the ramifications for 212 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: the financial sector. Danny, good morning. Let's just set things 213 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: up here. What is happening at SVB? To put it 214 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: really broadly, it's one of these unintended consequences of the 215 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Fed hiking rates that we always talk about actually come 216 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: to fruition. Now that's absolutely it too simplistically, But the 217 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: actual thing that happened here is this weird accounting quirk 218 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: where banks like Silicon Valley Bank are allowed to hold 219 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: bonds on their balance sheet and not mark them down 220 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: when they lose value. They label them held to maturity. 221 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: So SVB said they had ninety one billion dollars of 222 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: these bonds on their balance sheet, but the truth is 223 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: they are worth a lot less than that. And look, 224 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: usually that doesn't really matter. But when it matters is 225 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: if all of a sudden, clients want to take their 226 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: money out of the bank, they want their deposits back, 227 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: and you have to liquidate those bonds, and all of 228 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're taking huge losses and potentially there's this 229 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: mismatch in assets and liabilities. And that's what happened. They 230 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: have a lot of VC and tech companies. It's been 231 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: a really difficult time. Funding has dried up, so VC 232 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: funds wanted to take their money out, and SVB had 233 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: to liquidate all of its securities that were available for 234 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: sale and then had this gap. They release that press 235 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: that press release yesterday saying that they were looking for 236 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: a capital injection, and so these fears really came to 237 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: a head, and everybody all of a sudden looked at 238 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: SVB and said, wow, this looks a whole lot like 239 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: a solvency issue. So is this an accounting practice that's 240 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: particular to SVB or does this have potential ramifications for 241 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: other bigger banks that people may have heard of. So 242 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: the regional banks have a lot of these. Again, they're 243 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: called held to maturity, where you just say I'm going 244 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: to hold them forever so I don't need to mark 245 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: them down. But of course that's not actually the truth. 246 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: A lot of banks do have this. If you look 247 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: at what's sold off the most yesterday, it does kind 248 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: of go according to who has the biggest pile of 249 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: these bonds. Schwab, for example, has over one hundred billion. 250 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: First Regional, like a lot of these regional banks have them. 251 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: But potentially the difference with SVB is they were really 252 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: long duration. They were you know, let's say thirty year bonds. 253 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: They were mortgage backed security, so they were things that 254 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: were especially susceptible to the FEDS raising rates. So there 255 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: are some weird specific things with them. So it doesn't 256 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: necessarily mean that the fact that everyone else has these 257 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: held to maturity type bonds that they're going to be insolvent. 258 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: But look, it is a risk, and I should say 259 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: it's a risk that even the Fed, the Saint Louis 260 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: fed flagged in a blog post last month, eagle eared 261 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: listeners know you're based in London. How's this affecting the 262 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: European banking sector? Is their contagion risk there? Man? I 263 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: gotta say it is a head scratcher, because you think, 264 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: all right, there's this bank in California most of the 265 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: world hasn't heard about. It's exposed to VC funds. So 266 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: then why is UniCredit selling off? Why is Deutsche Bank 267 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: selling off? But for some of it it's sell now, 268 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: ask questions later. Another component might be that look what's 269 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: on their balance sheet? Do they have unrealized losses? Are 270 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: these banks holding European real estate that we know in 271 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: some sectors have been under pressure? But I do think 272 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: a lot of this is just banks are selling off, 273 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: and globally that happens, there's this interconnection between them. I 274 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: find it hard to make the argument that European banks 275 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: have the same risk as SVB, But it is just 276 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: a case perhaps of investors just combing through the balance 277 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: sheets and just saying, hey, anything that seems related. I'm 278 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: kind of worried about. Is this panic that we're seeing 279 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: in across the banking sector at least for now, something 280 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: that could move the Fed to potentially ease off rate 281 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: hikes to distress the system. It definitely is. For one, 282 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: we know this is something the FED watches. They speak 283 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: to regional banks all the time. I mentioned there was 284 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: a blog post about it by the Saint Louis FED. 285 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: So this is a worry of THEIRS. They don't want 286 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: this to happen. They know regional banks are important to 287 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: this economy, and so look, you can see the market 288 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: pricing in a FED that's going to be more cautious 289 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: because they don't want to break more things. You see 290 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: a two year yield that's moved thirty basis points lower 291 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: in the past two days. You see rate swaps backing 292 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: off from fifty basis point hikes. Part of it, I 293 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: will say, is the fact that this market was so 294 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: short bonds, especially heading into the jobs data today, that 295 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of short covering potentially. 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