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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We make way for Wayne Grensky, the Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: part of Turner's sports coverage of the Stanley Cup Final.

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Speaker 2: He'll be in attendance for all the games. Waynea, good

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Speaker 2: to see you again. How are you feeling?

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Speaker 3: I feel older, but it's great to see you. You know,

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Speaker 3: when you get your two youngest kids graduating college the

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Speaker 3: same week, you know you're getting old. So Thursday, NYU,

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Speaker 3: Friday SMU, and onto the Stanley Cup semis and the finals.

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Speaker 2: Now, could you give me a shift on the ice?

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Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you what happened about the age of

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Speaker 3: fifty seven. I was playing in a charity game and

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Speaker 3: I came back and I threw my bag down the

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Speaker 3: hotel room and I said to my wife, that's the

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Speaker 3: last time I'm ever going to skate, And she goes, what.

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Speaker 4: Do you mean.

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Speaker 3: I said, I was scared to death. I was going

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Speaker 3: to fall and hurt myself, and you can't play this

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Speaker 3: game with fear. So it was time for me to

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Speaker 3: officially retire. Even though I retired at the age of

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Speaker 3: thirty nine, but I stayed every now and then. My

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Speaker 3: son's hockey schools and then get on the ice. But

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Speaker 3: I don't play in charity games anymore. I don't trust

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Speaker 2: But that's what makes what yarmy or yonger or Gordi

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Speaker 2: how did listen?

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Speaker 3: It's amazing Gordie how got twenty goals in the NHL

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Speaker 3: at the age of fifty. Think about that. Almo Yager,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. He's got to be fifty eight. I

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Speaker 3: don't even know how holy he is. And he's still

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Speaker 3: playing games, although he told me one day he said,

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Speaker 3: I only play the home games now, though I said, well,

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Speaker 3: you're arrested. And Chris Jellio has played to fifty years old,

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Speaker 3: and the way he played, he was a maniac at

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Speaker 3: the age of twenty and the age of fifty. So

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Speaker 3: I have great admiration for older players, older athletes who

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Speaker 3: have excelled, Guys like Tom Brady, guys like Lebron. It's

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Speaker 3: pretty remarkable that you can go on at that age

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Speaker 3: because you know, and you've been around sports a long time.

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Speaker 3: The athletes are better today. They're bigger, they're stronger, the

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Speaker 3: coaching is better, and that's not a knock to the past.

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Speaker 3: That's just progression, right, twenty years from now, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be better. Today it's different. Every sport is different

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Speaker 3: than it used to be. But the athletes I think

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Speaker 2: Did you lift weights?

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Speaker 3: Brad Hall had the greatest line of all. Somebody said

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Speaker 3: seen a bar bell score, but I've seen a lot

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Speaker 3: of We used to do a training camp. We would

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Speaker 3: come in and they'd have these kids from university that

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Speaker 3: would do or you know, I guess they were seeing

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Speaker 3: what kind of shape you're in. So they had this

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Speaker 3: you had the bench press one hundred and ninety five pounds,

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Speaker 3: say to the kid, just mark me down for one.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even try to lift it. I said how

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Speaker 3: many that I do last year? He said seven?

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Speaker 4: I said, mark, we got eight.

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Speaker 3: So say they would think I was getting better, But listen,

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Speaker 3: I did eight pushups in training camp and scored ninety

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Speaker 3: two goals. I did one hundred and twenty five sit

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Speaker 3: ups my last year of training camp, I got nine goals.

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Speaker 3: There's no correlation, right.

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Speaker 2: When did you realize that Ovechkin could get your goalscoring record? Well?

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Speaker 3: When he scored on his back against us. When I

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Speaker 3: was coaching at Phoenix in about two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 3: I came in the locker room and I think it

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Speaker 4: A I said this.

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Speaker 3: There's only three guys him, Messe and Gordie Howe that

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Speaker 3: could play with the finesse, the goal scoring touch and

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Speaker 3: the physical part of the game. Those three guys did that. Now,

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Speaker 3: maybe Mark had a little bit more creativity with passing,

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Speaker 3: House scored big goals. But if they weren't scoring, they'd

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Speaker 2: But explain to us that it's the hardest thing to do,

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Speaker 2: aside from hitting a baseball. But you're on skates with

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Speaker 2: what were you looking for?

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Speaker 3: Well, people always say, how did you score that goal?

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Speaker 3: Did you see that open spot? Did you scout the

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Speaker 3: I was just shooting, trying to get an open spot,

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Speaker 4: It was my biggest pet peeve in the.

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Speaker 3: World when you go all the way down the ice

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Speaker 3: And if you look at Mike Bossy and Brett Hall

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Speaker 4: They hit the net.

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Speaker 3: You can't score if you don't hit the net. Common sense, Right,

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Speaker 3: games too fast. Now, in practice, you get out there

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Speaker 3: like that. But during the game, the game's too fast.

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Speaker 3: You're just trying to get it to the net.

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Speaker 2: Do you hold a grudge against anybody?

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Speaker 4: Do I?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? From your playing days. No.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, the exact opposite. I have

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Speaker 3: so much more respect for the players I played with

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Speaker 3: and against today. Even back then now listen, there was

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Speaker 3: a lot of guys who didn't like because they're trying

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Speaker 3: to win and I was trying to win. But today,

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Speaker 3: even even the guy that played me the hardest, the

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Speaker 3: guy like Dennis Potvan, if he called me needed a favor.

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Speaker 3: I would try to drop everything and try to help him.

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Speaker 3: You know, we become one. There's one common thing that

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Speaker 3: we all have as professional athletes. One day we're going

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Speaker 3: to be alumni. We're all going to be retired, right,

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Speaker 3: So I got a great deal of respect. Now, there

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Speaker 3: was a lot of guys that probably hated me when

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Speaker 3: I didn't like. But when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 3: it's like the other night when you saw Dallas, Jamie

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Speaker 3: Benn and Scheifeley battled for six games like real men.

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Speaker 3: They were physical, hard, played hard, and that's what makes

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Speaker 2: Talking to Wayne Gretzky, the Hall of Famer. Does your

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Speaker 3: Every time that she probably says, do you think, why

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Speaker 3: do you think you're the great one? I will tell

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Speaker 3: you I was having dinner with Charles Berkley one night

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Speaker 2: The great One.

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Speaker 4: My son was fifteen then he thought it was the

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Speaker 2: Where are all your trophies.

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Speaker 3: I have one trophy here that rocket Rashard gave me,

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Speaker 3: the only hockey trophy. I have one of the trophies

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Speaker 3: I'm most proud of. I have here Sports Illustrated Sportsman

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Speaker 3: in the year. That's the only two I have here.

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Speaker 3: The rest are at the Hockey Hall of Fame or

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Speaker 3: my nephew lives in, and my trophies are still there.

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Speaker 2: How important were trophies to you, aside from the Stanley Cup?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Glenn said. There had a theory in

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Speaker 3: want to win the best defenseman. I want a goalie

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Speaker 3: to be the best goalie. I want to have the MVP.

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Speaker 3: But with all that, I want the Stanley Cup. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was. He put it out there. He didn't hide

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Speaker 2: The difference between playoff hockey and regular season hockey, and

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Speaker 2: it's not, you know, that much different than other sports.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe the NFL is still in each game

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Speaker 2: because there's only seventeen games, but what is it about

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Speaker 2: playoff hockey that we you know, it's just different. It's

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Speaker 4: It really is.

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Speaker 3: Although I'm a basketball fan, I think the basketball has

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Speaker 3: been phenomenal this year in the playoffs, and you can

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Speaker 3: tell those guys have gone to another level. Our game

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Speaker 3: has just always been that way, and I think one

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Speaker 3: to It's hard to win in the National Hockey League.

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Speaker 3: And I thought Carolina played a really good hockey game

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Speaker 3: lose it in one night, and so I expect and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're like Peyton Manning when you're

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Speaker 2: or somebody does. I don't know. How are you similar

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Speaker 2: to Peyton Manning when you're watching hockey and you're like,

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Speaker 2: why are they doing something? Or you get you know, visibly,

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. I don't critique it. If anything

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Speaker 3: you can see the four teams are in the finals.

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Speaker 3: They all have good coaching and that's part of the

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Speaker 3: the talent to go with that. So now I know

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Speaker 3: how hard these kids work, and I never critique enough.

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Speaker 2: The oddest place where you were recognized is where.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I don't know, maybe Rome, Italy. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's amazing. I retired twenty five years ago. I think

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Speaker 3: I get recognized more now than I did in nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety nine. But people are nice. It doesn't even phaze me.

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Speaker 3: You know, people are always nice. Everybody has their opinions.

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Speaker 3: Who the best player was, who the best teams were?

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Speaker 3: We all do That's what makes sports great and all.

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Speaker 3: We don't have the right answer. It's your opinion, as

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Speaker 3: simple as that.

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Speaker 2: But Michael Jordan thinks he's the greatest basketball player of

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Speaker 2: all time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was the greatest athlete I think of all time.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you're the greatest hockey player of all time?

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Speaker 4: No, No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: I always said that Gordy how and Bobby Orr were

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Speaker 2: Well you are. You're so approachable, you know, And I

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Speaker 4: He made my life in high school that much easier.

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Speaker 2: But that's I mean, it's been a pretty amazing career.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm proud of five grands or five grand

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Speaker 2: But you're healthy, very healthy, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Although like everyone else, you know, I had some pre

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Speaker 3: Back in those days, they told you to go home,

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Speaker 2: Do you have any pictures of you fighting, like the

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Speaker 3: Was talking about my sports Illustrations trophy. I got one fight,

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Speaker 4: That's called cat fighting, so that doesn't count.

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Speaker 3: I think he's more shocked than the seventeen people at

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Speaker 4: Nineteen teammates I had on the bench going what was

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Speaker 3: Got back to the bench and I told all the guys,

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Speaker 2: But did you give like Dave Simenko an extra gift?

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Speaker 4: Those days everybody had sort of that guy, right. You know.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I did give him, I gave him

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Speaker 3: He was fine, and he didn't really want to fight.

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Speaker 3: He only did it if he had to, if he

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Speaker 3: saw somebody abusing a teammate. He never went looking to

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Speaker 2: Handicap the teams that are left in the playoffs, give

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: I like all four teams because I think all four

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Speaker 3: last year got to the finals and had a good run.

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Speaker 3: Anderson in Carolina, I wasn't. He didn't have a bad

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Speaker 4: So I like Florida.

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Speaker 3: But Roddy Britnemore and I were roommates at the Olympics

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Speaker 4: And I always vote for them. My brother's the assistant GM.

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Speaker 3: They have the two of the best three players in

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Speaker 3: the best player in the game. They're going to have

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Speaker 3: And Dallas, they made incredible trade getting Ratting in.

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Speaker 4: I think it changed their team.

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Speaker 3: The team that Dallas is playing Edmonton's playing this year

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Speaker 2: My best your wife and the family. Great to see

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Speaker 3: Seeing you and it's always a pleasure. I hope everything's

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud. Good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: You guys all take care.

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Speaker 2: How about the great one?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 5: Fritzy?

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Speaker 2: Wayne was it on the bus last night coming back

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Speaker 5: the show. Just search kobeen on Rich wherever you get

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Speaker 5: your podcasts, and of course on social media that's Cavino

442
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Speaker 5: and Rich.

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Speaker 2: Chris Webber, hall of Famer, joining us on the program.

444
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Speaker 2: See web How does that happen? You're up fourteen at home,

445
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Speaker 2: three minutes to go.

446
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Speaker 4: It happens when you have a really special team.

447
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Speaker 6: You know, first of all Haliburton when you look what

448
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Speaker 6: he did, and the Smith, all the other guys.

449
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Speaker 4: But please, let's not forget coach Carlisle.

450
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Speaker 6: You know, he's a great coach, and he's coached guys

451
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Speaker 6: like Jay Kidd.

452
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Speaker 4: He's coached against the greatest players.

453
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Speaker 6: He's played with the Celtics, by the way, so he

454
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Speaker 6: knows a little bit about offense. And to me, it

455
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Speaker 6: was just wearing you down. Some teams we give a

456
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Speaker 6: lot of credit for wearing you down with their defense,

457
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Speaker 6: and I played on teams, whether Sacramento and others, where

458
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Speaker 6: we we wore you down with our offense as well.

459
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Speaker 6: And that means just keeping your foot on the pedal,

460
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Speaker 6: never looking up, and trusting your players. And you know

461
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Speaker 6: those last three, I mean, wow, these are some of

462
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Speaker 6: the most exciting games I've seen a long time. So

463
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 6: it's great to be a fan and watch all the

464
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Speaker 6: excellences going on.

465
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Speaker 2: Why is it different playing in the garden than any

466
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Speaker 2: other place?

467
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Speaker 6: Well, I would say the garden in Old La, Old La,

468
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 6: because you had stars like Jack and others that were

469
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Speaker 6: there and you would see. But I think it's because

470
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 6: it's not just about new stars. I think it's about

471
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Speaker 6: the fact that because those arenas are so old, you

472
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Speaker 6: know Kareem played there or you know you know that

473
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Speaker 6: I don't know Willie Allen or someone else was at

474
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Speaker 6: those games. And so as a player, you come in saying,

475
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Speaker 6: you know, I better give my best performance because this

476
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 6: is where the best performers are. How many times do

477
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Speaker 6: you get to perform in front of your heroes? And

478
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Speaker 6: so for me, New York was always special. And you know,

479
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Speaker 6: if I could send out a PBA alert because New

480
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 6: York is so cocky.

481
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Speaker 4: I have a very close friend. His name is has.

482
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Speaker 6: I won't give his full government name, but anyone in

483
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Speaker 6: New York please look out for how you just make

484
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Speaker 6: sure you watch over him because.

485
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: He was hitting me with being bong and all this

486
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Speaker 4: other stuff.

487
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Speaker 6: And I haven't heard from him in about sixteen hours,

488
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 6: So please look out for my manor house. But it's

489
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Speaker 6: so much fun, and part of that too is sending

490
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Speaker 6: those crowds home quiet. It's no better feeling than any arena,

491
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Speaker 6: but you know LA and New York, when you do it,

492
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Speaker 6: you know you feel a little extra special.

493
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Speaker 2: Okay, but did you ever have conversations with celebrities? Did

494
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Speaker 2: you ever flirt with a celebrity in LA when you

495
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Speaker 2: were playing?

496
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Speaker 4: Never flirted.

497
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Speaker 6: But if I saw, you know, someone that I wanted

498
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Speaker 6: to flirt with, or I raised my game, you know,

499
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 6: you want to play well and send them home with something.

500
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Speaker 2: You know, so Billy Mary is their court side, you

501
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Speaker 2: might you might want the ball a little more.

502
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and you know you might, you know, shoot

503
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Speaker 6: your shot of dunk on someone a little harder and

504
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 6: mistakenly look at it. You know, you know it's not

505
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Speaker 6: the weak. But oh, I'm sorry, Did I just do that?

506
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Speaker 6: You know, that's that type of thing.

507
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Speaker 4: I do. Remember.

508
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Speaker 6: One of the best compliments I ever got was Jack

509
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 6: looks before the game and the playoffs in LA and

510
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 6: you would change right by him. And I'm really focused

511
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 6: and nervous and getting ready to go, and he says,

512
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Speaker 6: the calm before the storm. You were the calm before

513
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Speaker 6: the storm, and we blew la out that game, and

514
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Speaker 6: I remember thinking he never should have given me that

515
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 6: compliment because I had to live up to that in

516
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Speaker 6: front of him.

517
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Speaker 2: What's it like, though, when everybody knows you're getting the

518
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: ball like you and the feeling of I don't. Some guys,

519
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, they run away from the ball, Others run

520
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Speaker 2: to the ball.

521
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

522
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Speaker 6: I think that it's all about knowing your game. It's

523
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 6: really simple. Knowing that you have a move and a

524
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 6: counter move with its starting like that, it's really easy.

525
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Speaker 6: And then if you have great players around, it's easier

526
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Speaker 6: to trust. So I can only speak from my experience,

527
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Speaker 6: but knowing that I was gonna get double team late

528
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 6: in the game, I would be talking to Pager of

529
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 6: Lottie and them during the whole game, like you see,

530
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 6: they're gonna come double me at this point. Later I

531
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 6: got you, and so so it gives you freedom. The

532
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 6: easiest person to check on the court is a selfish person,

533
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 6: and so you have to make sure through your abilities

534
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Speaker 6: that you keep everyone on their toes.

535
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Speaker 4: Just look at a guy like Jokis.

536
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Speaker 6: You know he wants the ball late in the game,

537
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Speaker 6: but he may not shoot seven possessions in a row,

538
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 6: but they're going to score seven possessions in a row.

539
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Speaker 6: So for me, the most important thing is, yeah, can

540
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Speaker 6: you score? But there are a lot of guys we

541
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Speaker 6: waited to the end to double because they didn't have

542
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Speaker 6: to acumen the pass or didn't even know where other

543
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Speaker 6: teammates were. And so to me, it's how can you

544
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Speaker 6: make a score happen if you're a great player late

545
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Speaker 6: in the game. And Lebron was accused a lot for that,

546
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Speaker 6: but he's one of the best examples Magic as well

547
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Speaker 6: of being able to take a moment, find it, know

548
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Speaker 6: that I can score, but it may be easier to

549
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 6: loosen you up by finding a wide open Jr. Or

550
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 6: someone in the corner or Booby Gibson that hurt us

551
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 6: in Detroit to kill you a little bit better instead

552
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Speaker 6: of being selfish.

553
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we give Magic a hall pass and say

554
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Speaker 2: that's a positive Lebron. People viewed that as a negative,

555
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: that he didn't want to take the big shot in

556
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 2: those situations with Magic. It was like, look at how

557
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: unselfish he is.

558
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right, Dan, but so let's separate.

559
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Speaker 6: The first time he played against San Antonio, let's separate,

560
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 6: you know, when he was learning on that learning curve,

561
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 6: but he always played the right way. And so there

562
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Speaker 6: was one game I think in the Pistons Game seven,

563
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 6: I think we're playing against him and we're, you know,

564
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 6: trying to go to the championship, and this guy scores.

565
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Speaker 4: Twenty four in a row, twenty five in a row.

566
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Speaker 6: But Booby Gibson had a great game because he was

567
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Speaker 6: finding this guy in the corner. And then you wonder,

568
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 6: how does a guy like Mesmith, how does a guy

569
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Speaker 6: like Booby Gibson come out of nowhere? How does a

570
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Speaker 6: guy like Fisher, Derek Fisher come out of nowhere and

571
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 6: do these things? So let's because Shaq trusted at one point,

572
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Speaker 6: it's because Lebron trusted. So yeah, that's that line in

573
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Speaker 6: the sand with Lebron. But when he was able and

574
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Speaker 6: found his voice, found his way on the court, he

575
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 6: still played the right way. And for me, he doesn't

576
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Speaker 6: get enough credit for that.

577
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Speaker 2: Did Lebron have forty three on you guys in that

578
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Speaker 2: game seven?

579
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Speaker 4: I know he had twenty four to twenty five straight

580
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Speaker 4: and oh.

581
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Speaker 2: He had forty had forty eight.

582
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Speaker 4: Thanks, I'm an call.

583
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Speaker 6: Rashii Wallason reminds him of that because that's one of

584
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Speaker 6: Rashid's biggest failures, or I won't even say that that's

585
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 6: something that hurt Rashid the most, is a defensive player

586
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 6: that it was one guy on the floor that we

587
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 6: couldn't stop it. So yeah, whatever he did, he hurt

588
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 6: our feelings and he kept us from a championships.

589
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: Hurt your feelings. He's Chris Weber Hall of Famer. I

590
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: mentioned this earlier. We can't underestimate the impact of the

591
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: Dream Team in nineteen ninety two on the world because

592
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: here we are, what thirty three years later, and look

593
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: at the best players in the game. The players are

594
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: from outside the top five players. You can make an

595
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: argument are not American born shay Gil just getting the MVP.

596
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: You got Luca, you got Jannis. I mean, we can

597
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: go down the list there. But that impact of we

598
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: laughed at the rest of the world. We're crushing Barkley's

599
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: making fun of people. We're focused on us, whereas the

600
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: world focused on them, and how how do we get

601
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: better as a basketball country? And look at what that

602
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: impact did with the NBA.

603
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Speaker 4: So you're right, that impact was great.

604
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Speaker 6: I remember just hearing about players like Sabonis or other players,

605
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 6: and really not knowing until I got to play with

606
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 6: great players like Sharona's Marshalon this or or Payserstoyakovich or

607
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 6: Potapinco or others. I think we did a great job

608
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 6: in showing our secrets and showing them you know that

609
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 6: you can be like Jordan at least you could dream

610
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 6: like this, and if you don't reach Jordan's ability, you

611
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 6: can still be pretty good if you watch him. And

612
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 6: so I think that we did a great job in

613
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Speaker 6: exposing the game. But I also think the way that

614
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 6: the system was set up. You know, Luca was professional

615
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Speaker 6: at what fifteen, So if he's professional at fifteen, comes

616
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 6: to the NBA with five years experience and playing against

617
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 6: grown man, he's going to have a.

618
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: Better trajectory.

619
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Speaker 6: And so I think that the systems that we had

620
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 6: overseas and a lot of guys to play professionally the

621
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 6: younger help them advance a lot quicker. But our last

622
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 6: seven MVPs then were all foreigners so to speak, or

623
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Speaker 6: people from other places. And truthfully, Sean could have won

624
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 6: last year, and truthfully the year indeed won, you know,

625
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 6: Yokis could have won that so you could have a

626
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 6: full time I really look at Yokas.

627
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: Is missing the MVP. He should have one more MVP.

628
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 6: So I love the way that the game is spread,

629
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 6: but it comes back to skill skill skill, and hopefully

630
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 6: it a set of fire under a lot of the

631
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: young kids to you know, be the best that they

632
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 6: could be. But I think the game is going to

633
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 6: always elevate no matter who's the best, because guys around

634
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 6: the world watched the best and we become better after that.

635
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: But you also look, and I'm sure you remember this,

636
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: but when Barkley won MVP, when Karl Malone won MVP,

637
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: everybody knew that Michael Jordan was the best player in

638
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: the game. Right, Shay gilgis is getting the MVP, but

639
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: I think everybody recognizes Joker is still the best player

640
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: in the game. It just and yeah, I mean SGA

641
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: and OKC had the best year and he's the best player.

642
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know how players reacted when you know

643
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: Barkley played well for Phoenix, Carl played well for Utah.

644
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: You know, Michael, I don't think cared about the regular

645
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: season as much as he's gonna win a championship.

646
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Speaker 4: Well, I also think there's fatigue. You know, there's jo

647
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: kids fatigue.

648
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, you really.

649
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 6: Think about it. You can't have a co m VP.

650
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 6: But how did he not win the MVP? But then

651
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: again with Shay, I think I think too. I think

652
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 6: it's the culture of how we play, if we want

653
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 6: to really be honest, I think that, you know, I

654
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 6: love playing with players that make everyone better, and so

655
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Speaker 6: I think the days of just scoring forty and being

656
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 6: that guy like that's that's not necessarily winning basketball, to

657
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 6: be doubled in the post and not get anyone else involved.

658
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Speaker 4: That's why we love Jolkics and maybe not other sinners.

659
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Speaker 6: And so I think the culture, at least from watching doctors,

660
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 6: at least from watching Shi is that Shay gilges is

661
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 6: that they're always gonna try to make the right play,

662
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 6: even if it's being selfish four or five times in

663
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 6: a row. But watching them facilitate get other guys involved

664
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 6: is so special. That's why Holler Burton is special though,

665
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 6: and I've always known that even if he was drafted

666
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 6: this Sacramento, because he gets everyone involved. And I think

667
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 6: that that has become the culture of the European player

668
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 6: and as Americans being the best scorer. You know, it's

669
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 6: a little more that you can add to that. And

670
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 6: I think that that's where the line of the sand

671
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 6: is gonna come, like how much better do you make

672
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 6: your team? And Shy's team would not be that good? Okay,

673
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 6: see when the gout the first round without him, and

674
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 6: Denver may not have made the playoffs without Yokis. And

675
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 6: that's what I like. The distinction in the MVP argument

676
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 6: is not that, oh look at the stats. If we

677
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 6: really take them away from their teams without them even scoring,

678
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 6: they make their teams better. And I think that that

679
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 6: shows what the most valuable player is not the most

680
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 6: valuable score, but the most valuable teammate.

681
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: But you were on the college select team that beat

682
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: the Dream Team, right.

683
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we beat them, coach, K how you doing.

684
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: Like it was real though? That was a real game,

685
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: right yeah?

686
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 6: I mean it was a practice then. Like you know,

687
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 6: I'm sure that you've been around your heroes and commentating

688
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 6: or journalism and things when you first got in the game,

689
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 6: and if you really first remember those things.

690
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: Just you know, there was no social media.

691
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 6: Dominique Wilkins and you know I had him on the

692
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 6: wall with books and the Tonics, the different shoes I had,

693
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 6: Magic every I knew everything about them that you could

694
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 6: at the time.

695
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: I watched all the Bloopers tapes.

696
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 6: Remember that's all we could get was the Bloopers tapes

697
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: with the coach from Utah at the time, so access

698
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 6: was not here, and so Frank, Frank Laydon and I remember.

699
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 6: I remember being in a huddle and with literally with

700
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 6: tears in our eyes because we're eighteen twenty at this time.

701
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: I just come from the championship.

702
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 6: We were losing a duke, and I'm playing with Bobby

703
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 6: Hurley and Grant Hill and all my friends and we're

704
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 6: in a huddle like this is a dream come true.

705
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 6: None of us were thinking about going to the league,

706
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? This is the if I

707
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 6: go back to the purest of moments in sporting life,

708
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 6: it had to be then, you know, because it was okay.

709
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: I couldn't believe how quick Bobby Hurley was and that

710
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 6: it transcended onto the court against Magic where he's taking

711
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 6: Magic and Stockton, Like we didn't believe in ourselves like this.

712
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: These were just our heroes. Barkley was my favorite player.

713
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: So to go against Barkley and Patrick ewing and a

714
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 6: dunk on them that was like the biggest thing in

715
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 6: the call home. And so we really played the hardest

716
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 6: that we could. We caught them sleeping, and Chuck Day,

717
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 6: being from me, tried and had a great relationship with him,

718
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 6: and I remember him patting us on the back like

719
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 6: good job. And you know, as a good coach, you

720
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 6: want to use different things to centivize your team. And

721
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 6: we beat them, and for them to say last point,

722
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 6: it's so infuriating to hear him say, well, Jordan's sat

723
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 6: on the bench. Jordan could have sat on the bench

724
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 6: the whole scrimmage. And you're saying, we still beat the

725
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 6: All Star team, but we'll take that.

726
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: And so I think.

727
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 6: Any excuse for them is not giving the credit of

728
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 6: how great they were, and any great team, thoughs, you

729
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 6: can get caught slipping. One day, we caught them slipping,

730
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 6: and the next day I do not remember us scoring

731
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 6: one basketball.

732
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: That's how much they wanted to pay us back.

733
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 6: So if they didn't beat us, then they wouldn't have

734
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 6: been that mad that next day because they kicked our ass.

735
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Speaker 2: Who was it was it? Rodney Rogers, Rodney.

736
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 6: Rogers, I don't know why he kept talking. He was

737
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 6: just always talking. His country guy is so strong. And

738
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Speaker 6: I remember Larry Bird because because he was my hero,

739
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 6: and I just remember watching him and we didn't realize

740
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 6: he was that tall.

741
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: His back was hurting, you know, he kind of ran

742
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 4: with a little bit of a gate.

743
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 6: But his movements because he was such a great passer,

744
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 6: you couldn't come up on him because his first step

745
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 6: was so quick and Rodney Rodgers were rotating and he

746
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 6: goes to the corner and he pump fakes, and as

747
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 6: he pump fakes, he's like, welcome to the parachute club.

748
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 6: And we're like, you're talking during the shot I'm talking

749
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 6: about it just fell through. It looked like the nets

750
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 6: didn't even move, you know, one of those things. But

751
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 6: we would have got fined because we're kind of giving

752
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 6: each other five, like, did you see what Larry.

753
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: Just did to us with Oh, you guys are celebrating

754
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: him tortching Rodney Rogers.

755
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: Yes, bad, but Larry Bird made a lot of people

756
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: do that.

757
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 6: Look, go look on YouTube against the Hawks game when

758
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 6: he's calling shots with his left hand.

759
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: That whole bench should have got fined because they did.

760
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: If they did get fined, Oh, good.

761
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: Good, because that's a bad president.

762
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 6: I mean I would have gone to the locker room and

763
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 6: tried to fight my teammates like there's nothing I could do,

764
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 6: and you guys are cheering them.

765
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: Moll you never you never did that when you played

766
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: against Jordan, or you're on the bench and Jordan did

767
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: something and you like turned your your guys and said,

768
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: oh my God, give me fined.

769
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 6: I put I put my shirt over like that, act

770
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 6: like let them know later. One time, Jordan, we were

771
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 6: in the playoffs. Jordan parks is Ferrari inside the building,

772
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 6: which you shouldn't be able to do. He's smoking a

773
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 6: cigar before the game, which I mean, you can do

774
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 6: whatever you want. And we're the lowly bullets and uh,

775
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 6: Jawan and I are getting off the bus and Jawan's

776
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 6: very close with him.

777
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: And he's like Juan, who's guarding me tonight?

778
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 6: And Calbert Cheney was behind us and we both looked

779
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 6: and dead like that. And that was the one time

780
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 6: our crims about how I left the teammate hanging because

781
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 6: Jordan had fifty five on us that night and beat

782
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 6: the tea.

783
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: Poor Calvert Cheney.

784
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, for he's the man though, but yeah, Hey, is

785
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 6: you dealing with Jordan and Kobe. You're gonna have to

786
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 6: take You're gonna have to take some aails man.

787
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was that same like tenseness that like

788
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: or they probably were like, Okay, who's who's gonna get

789
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: take a beating? You know, tell me? And then you

790
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: guys are like pointing at Calbird Cheney there.

791
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 6: That's exactly what we left him hanging down as a

792
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 6: teammate and a captain. That's the one thing our Crians

793
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 6: that like because we both are like, hey, this guy,

794
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 6: leave us alone.

795
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: But Kobe didn't do that.

796
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: No, Kobe didn't do that.

797
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: But I had a teammate and now a coach, and

798
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 6: Doug Christie that very honestly he's the man, because Kobe

799
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 6: would score a shot after shot, Doug would play it correctly,

800
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 6: hand in his face. I saw him tap Kobe on

801
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 6: his head before and things like that.

802
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: It didn't stop him. It didn't stop him.

803
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 6: And after the game, you know him look at himself

804
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 6: in the mirror like I did all I could do.

805
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 6: When he get forty four and I'm ready for tomorrow,

806
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 6: you know, you gotta have you gotta have some big

807
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 6: nuggets to do that and teammates that that do their

808
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 6: job knowing that it's it's an uphill battle.

809
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: Man.

810
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 6: It's so great playing with guys with that commitment because

811
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 6: it makes you commit that much more.

812
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: You can't tap Kobe on his forehead on the jump.

813
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: Shot, Oh yeah, a lot of it.

814
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you know how guys toop you on the Yeah,

815
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 6: I know that. Oh yeah, no, yeah, on the forehead

816
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 6: on the shot on the forehead, Oh yeah, on the forehead.

817
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: Damn, that would piss me off.

818
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little man stealers and you know all that stuff. Yeah,

819
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: blowing in your ear. You gotta try anything.

820
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: You didn't do that though, No, I.

821
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 6: Think against the key. I pushed and you know, try stuff,

822
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 6: but it didn't work.

823
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: It didn't work. Didn't work.

824
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a kem would get agitated with anything.

825
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: No.

826
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 6: No, And you're hoping one guy, like whether he makes

827
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 6: the shot or misses the shot, you're hoping he misses it.

828
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: It starts to complain, and then.

829
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 6: You've done your job because at least he's thinking about

830
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 6: something else while trying to destroy me.

831
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: I can't imagine somebody tapping Michael Jordan on the head.

832
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: Even Kobe I can't imagine that I.

833
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 6: Want to, you know what, I couldn't either, But I'm

834
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 6: I played with some guys and I think would like

835
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 6: a Vernon Maxim.

836
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: No, yeah, Vernon Vernon and Albert Alvin Robertson seemed to

837
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: be the craziest guys that. Like, there have been crazy guys,

838
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: but those are two guys that might be on the

839
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore.

840
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

841
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know what, You're just so right And

842
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 6: what's so great about guys like that. I think people

843
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 6: think that, you know, and I'm sure Draymond must do this,

844
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 6: but I think people think that they're a distraction, and

845
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 6: really what it is is comfort because we needed what

846
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 6: Vernon Maxwell had in Sacramento our first year. Jay Will

847
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 6: White Chocolate needed that because if he gets that every

848
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 6: day in practice and you get tired, almost like your

849
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 6: big brother, then you understand when these other guys do it,

850
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 6: it's nothing because you're getting you know, abused all the time.

851
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 6: And so those guys make locker rooms better because they

852
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 6: do set an expectation where you have to be more

853
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 6: accountable because you know, this guy over here is crazy

854
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 6: giving it his own.

855
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with him.

856
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 4: Thank you, Joe, thank you, looking forward to seeing you.

857
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: And I'm Sayler's movie.

858
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: Thank you Bunny and so see Webb.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't be too upset. We'll have fun today.

863
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's that web right, even though it's early

864
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Speaker 5: We're gonna be playing James today, be giving away prizes,

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Speaker 5: having fun and Iowa. Sam's on the xylophones. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 5: always participate. At eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox,

890
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Speaker 5: Hope you had a okay cee sort of night. They

891
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: just slaying it. Huh yeah, dominant, very dominant, makes it

892
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 5: kind of boring. It's the really ist. The ratings are

893
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 5: trash right right because proof of the ratings, I mean,

894
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 5: the reality is okay. So he's just steamrolling everyone. But

895
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: that brings up a thought that I want to get

896
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 5: to in a second about SGA. We're gonna talk about

897
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: balding Baldo Ronaldos and what would you do if you

898
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 5: are a balding guy? And what if I told you

899
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: you might be able to reverse it easily? And it's

900
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: not some stupid commercial. There is a crazy breaking story

901
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 5: about balding men. Is this like a real story or

902
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 5: something you saw on TikTok? Well, dude, this is real. Okay,

903
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 5: it's real, fake okay, plus a dumb hypothetical about being

904
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 5: mad about something, but yet you don't support it. I'll

905
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 5: give you an example. Remember when Twinkies they were like,

906
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 5: we're discontinuing Twinkies in the world, was like outrage, No, no,

907
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 5: life is over. Meanwhile, you hadn't bought a Twinkie in years.

908
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 5: I get it. It's like twenty years passes and you

909
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 5: haven't bought a Twinkie, but you're mad if they discontinue it.

910
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 5: So okay, I have a funny story in the news

911
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 5: about that. But we'll get you ready for the weekend.

912
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 5: That's what we do. Happy to be here holiday weekend.

913
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: So that being said, we salute all who served and

914
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: died for this country as we headed to a Memorial

915
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 5: Day weekend. Happy to be here, And I said we'll

916
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 5: get you ready for that, and we'll get you ready

917
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: with something called weekend hobnobbing. Aside from all the great sports,

918
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 5: what you need to watch in the world of sports

919
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: and entertainment, Weekend hobnobbing. We do it every Friday. A

920
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 5: big story that I want to get to today. I'm

921
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 5: just to listen to these things so I make sure

922
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 5: I get to them. Alex kra put in a scenario

923
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 5: that people love to debate in sports, and that's personal

924
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 5: life versus work, And where's the line what's more important?

925
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: I think it's obvious, but this story where it's like,

926
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: was it obvious? We'll get to all that coming up.

927
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 5: But I mean again, ratings probably stunk OKAYC and Minnesota.

928
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: The Wolve's even gonna show up or what? What do

929
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 5: you think the executives are saying? Ratings, Yeah, the Timberwolves

930
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: have to show up. Make it a series. What are

931
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: we gonna put a little uh little respect on the

932
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 5: name of the Oka ce Thunder? When is SGA? What

933
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: is Shae Gilgas? Alexander gonna get the love he deserves

934
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 5: right because I thought about it and.

935
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 7: It's almost like he should be named MVP of the league.

936
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 7: Or something.

937
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, he should be MVP. I think you're right.

938
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 5: I think when you could say his name with full

939
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 5: confidence and not think that you're saying it wrong, Skilde.

940
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 7: Why don't think everybody?

941
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 5: It's like when you couldn't say Yannis. Really no, you

942
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: couldn't say ant to the Koupo. Yeah, well you just

943
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 5: still can't say that, so you call him SGA. I

944
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: think that's it starts there. But I think it's just

945
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 5: a matter of familiarity. Rich I think after the series,

946
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 5: after this run, but especially if they win it all,

947
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 5: if they win it all and he's MVP. Yeah, like

948
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: I thought about it. You go back to the draft

949
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen, if you go back in ten ten,

950
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 5: if you go back in time twenty eighteen, and you realize,

951
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 5: let me look at that draft real quick, that was

952
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 5: the luc At covid. If I remember, the world changed.

953
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 5: If you go back to the year before I lost

954
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 5: my eyesight, you know, it's not that I'm getting older.

955
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 5: I suffer from what I call COVID. I you don't

956
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 5: have COVID now, the same, dude. No, it's it's definitely

957
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: not that you're in your forties. No, no, no, no, no, no,

958
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: And uh my hair thinned out a little bit now

959
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 5: because I'm getting older COVID hair, bro, So you're going

960
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 5: pre COVID eighteen the older days. Take me back. The

961
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 5: Suns chose DeAndre Ayton. Marvin Bagley went two. That was

962
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: the year Luca went three, right, m Jaron Jackson, Junior,

963
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 5: Trey Young, couple, couple you know stars in this draft,

964
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 5: but you go all the way down to crappy once

965
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 5: with eleven. I mean it was a first rounder. But again,

966
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 5: a guy I've had has averaged over thirty points a

967
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 5: game the last couple of seasons. Yet he's never in

968
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 5: the conversation. But like I know, he's MVP. So you

969
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 5: could say, rich, you're fulling. What are you talking about? Yes?

970
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 5: Quality wise, but I don't think do you know many

971
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: kids that have an OK see Alexander Jersey. Do you

972
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 5: see that around town? Well?

973
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 7: Part of that is the market therein I.

974
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 5: Was gonna say just that small market anything, smaller market anything,

975
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 5: and of course they become a bigger household name with

976
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 5: a bigger reputation the more they win. I think it's

977
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 5: simply that small market teams, small market reputation. I mean,

978
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 5: it's a weak yess example, but Otani was always a star.

979
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 5: Are you saying how Otani went from like Yo, the

980
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 5: guy dominatingbody's on the Angels to the Dodgers, Like if

981
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 5: you're tell me Sga was part of some mega trade

982
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 5: and ended up on the Knicks, Lakers, Golden State, the Heat,

983
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 5: something like that. Then all of a sudden that would

984
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 5: change completely. Yeah, I mean tie it into your own world.

985
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 5: We always talk markets here in radio, and by the way,

986
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: happy to be on a million of them. Shout out

987
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 5: to all the affiliates this morning, appreciate you. Always great

988
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 5: to be here. I think Patrick, I think Dean Patrick

989
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 5: really is on close to a million affiliates. But you

990
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: could be the greatest radio show ever, like weaning the

991
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 5: butt in the mornings. But if you're only on in Dayton,

992
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 5: Ohio exactly not to dateon Ohio. It's just you could

993
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 5: be the greatest there, but not everybody's gonna know and

994
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 5: respect you the way they should because it's Dayton, Ohio.

995
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 5: It's as simple as that. It's a market thing. I

996
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: agree with Danny g that doesn't mean it can't change.

997
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 5: But winning, as we always say, winning changes everything. Bill Belichick, right,

998
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 5: everyone's like, man, Bill's bringing a whole lot of a

999
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 5: lot of noise to U n C. You know how

1000
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 5: you fix that? Winning? Winning fixes everything. So winning. I

1001
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 5: think of Charlie she and I think it's old enough

1002
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 5: that it's retro again.

1003
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Winning you still have that.

1004
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 5: I stand by yo a sampulled that out of his

1005
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 5: back pocket, winning huge Charlie sheet fans. You were waiting

1006
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 5: for us to bring that back.

1007
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 7: I do love the Three Musketeers.

1008
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 5: Honestly, something's not right. We're not saying that anything's wrong,

1009
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 5: but it is wrong to not respect them the way

1010
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 5: that we should because they seem insanely. Winning fixes that

1011
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 5: I know. And Danny g you may roll your eyes

1012
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: because you're like, dude, he's the MVP, and he's you know,

1013
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 5: look say he's gonna roll to the NBA Finals. But

1014
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 5: but it's not a household name. Yeah, I feel like

1015
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 5: your mom doesn't know his name unless the mom test,

1016
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 5: the mom test, you know. But you're right, you brought

1017
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: up young people, young people probably very yeah, wear point,

1018
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 5: but it's the uh, it's the Aunt Sharon at Easter,

1019
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 5: Christmas or a holiday event, like I do leave my

1020
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 5: Aunt Sharon Avis.

1021
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 7: They might be listening and Rich, you may need to

1022
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 7: slow down that comment just a little bit until I

1023
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 7: see Okac get a big lead and keep it in Minnesota.

1024
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 7: Then I'll agree with that because think back, ask a

1025
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 7: Laker if it's easy to win in Minnesota.

1026
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 5: Listen Minnesota. I think the t Wolves, Anthony Edwards, that

1027
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: whole squad is fun to watch. I enjoy them. Like

1028
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: I said, this matchup isn't necessarily what the executives wanted.

1029
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 5: Ratings gold Baby Gold, of course that they would have

1030
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 5: wished upon a star for somehow Golden State or the

1031
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 5: Lakers or staff.

1032
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 7: You're getting there. Ratings in the Eastern Conference.

1033
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 5: Of course, big time, but a big time difference to

1034
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 5: of star power and excitement and competition and market size

1035
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 5: and market size. Yeah, it comes back to that New York,

1036
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 5: the Knicks, the Garden. I'm not trying to be the

1037
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 5: ratings guy, like boring, because I don't want to be

1038
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 5: that guy. I really don't. But we said it a

1039
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 5: little while back. If it's the Pacers, okase, you could

1040
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 5: argue that it could be the lowest ratings of the

1041
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 5: twenty first century. Well, here's the thing, Rich, is it

1042
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: as far as ratings, maybe ratings executives clearly would appreciate

1043
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 5: the Knicks stepping up and taking it further because it's

1044
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 5: great for basketball and it's high profile and big market.

1045
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 5: But who would be the greater ratings rival in the finals?

1046
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 5: I would have assumed the Timberwolves. You know, I don't

1047
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 5: stand corrected, but I just found the top selling jerseys

1048
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 5: in the NBA, and would you assume that SGA is

1049
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 5: in the top ten. Young kids are front runners and

1050
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 5: they're like superstars, and everybody's a fan of greatness. Hey,

1051
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 5: your boy here, Steve Cavino from Union, New Jersey. I

1052
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 5: had a Michael Jordan jersey. I mean I also had

1053
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 5: like a Jalen Rose jersey because I thought the Nuggets

1054
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 5: jersey was kind of cool. Back then, I had a

1055
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 5: bunch of random jerseys, but of course I had a

1056
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 5: Jordan jersey because greatness is fun to root for. I'm

1057
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 5: not surprised we're talking the MVP. Young kids who were

1058
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 5: in the market of buying a New Jersey absolutely would

1059
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 5: probably go to that first. Oh, you're a Yankees fan.

1060
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 5: I'm surprised you're not a Cowboys and Lakers fan too. Yeah,

1061
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: but hold on, we lived in an era where things

1062
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 5: started to change. You became a fan of greatness. I

1063
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 5: didn't root for the Raiders, I didn't root for the Royals,

1064
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 5: but I was a fan of Mo Jackson, who wasn't

1065
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 5: what nineties kid didn't like Michael Jordan or Bo Jackson

1066
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 5: or Ken Griffy Jr. Right, So he would be in

1067
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 5: that category for a young person today, you're hanging up

1068
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 5: posters in their room or whatever they do. What do

1069
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: they do? A little light up my kids? No, it's

1070
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 5: not the same. Even though my daughter has posters. You

1071
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 5: can still have a fatheads or is at the two

1072
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 5: thousand tests and like cool lights, some sort of galaxy

1073
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: on their ceiling, like my kid. My kid has some

1074
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 5: little ball that you let it out that it makes

1075
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 5: like it looks like the Milky Ways on their ceilings.

1076
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 5: So they probably have some SGA hologram up there, you know,

1077
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 5: floating around their room, some sort of fat head. Because

1078
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 5: he is the m v P. So it's just it

1079
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 5: doesn't pass the Aunt Sharon test, but it passes the

1080
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 5: give me a good Little Kidney Jackson test. With an

1081
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 5: ex Jackson jacks, it passes the Kyler test. Yeah you

1082
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 5: know Jackson, So yeah, you like SGA of cars. I

1083
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 5: know at an SGA wall hologram.

1084
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 7: With with that in mind, with SGA and after this

1085
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 7: MVP season, maybe his stardom will pick up. On the

1086
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 7: other side of things, Tyree Salliburton, is he a superstar?

1087
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 5: Well, I mean want to find the superstar? Is that

1088
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 5: the question? Why didn't get to that too? You know

1089
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 5: that's a great transition. Let me ask you before we

1090
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 5: do that, though, Well, you know what superstar moments? What

1091
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: are the what do you think the top ten selling

1092
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 5: jerseys are?

1093
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 4: Now?

1094
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 5: This is based on the second half of the NBA season.

1095
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 5: Luca's in there, Lucas number one. I remember this is

1096
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: the second half, so fake people buying that Luca Lakers jersey.

1097
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 5: Jason there, he's number four. I imagine Lebron's still in there.

1098
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 5: Number three, Curry is still in there, number two. You

1099
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 5: guys just nailed the top four.

1100
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 7: Okay, New York so Brunston number five?

1101
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, you guys are like Steve Harvey would buy

1102
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 5: his mustache would be uh, you know, shimmering right now

1103
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 5: with your family feud style excellence. Speaking of which, Dan

1104
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 5: Patrick's celebrity family Fewud. How cool is that? We gotta

1105
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 5: get on that, all right, you guys name the top five.

1106
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: It's called celebrity far Gettenberger family. I'm thinking young stars.

1107
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 5: Jahn Morant, John Morant's number eight. So here you go,

1108
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 5: you're rolling. Keep on the young stars.

1109
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 7: Oh I didn't play the second half of the season,

1110
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 7: but Wemby.

1111
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 5: Number six, nice, my clean sweetness. Then there's one more

1112
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 5: at number seven, and I'll give you this. Sga is

1113
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 5: number nine, and it's someone he's playing right now, Ah Edwards.

1114
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 5: Edwards is number seven, baby Jordan's and then your kit

1115
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 5: rounds out the top ten and then Giannis Lamello, Ball KD,

1116
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 5: Devin Booker and Jalen Brown. But he's a top ten

1117
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 5: selling Jersey. So Camino your theory of like your kids know,

1118
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 5: it's just it might not pass the Aunt Janet at

1119
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 5: Christmas test like man okc with uh.

1120
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 2: Who's that guy again?

1121
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 5: Uh? And Sharon and Janet that's uh Shay gilg is Alexander.

1122
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just saying for guy that's putting up these numbers,

1123
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: I think he should be more of a household name.

1124
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 5: And when people talk about the young stars of the league,

1125
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 5: who else is in their twenties doing what he was

1126
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: doing a lot of the other guys we speak of

1127
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 5: on that list are thirty ish or older, the veterans. Right, well,

1128
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 5: there is a feeling. I saw Charles Barkley being interviewed

1129
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: by one of our pals, Adam Glenn, who does celebrity

1130
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 5: interviews like TMZ style interviews, and he's like, how do

1131
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 5: you feel about the Thunder's chances and what do you

1132
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: think about SGA sort of coming out of nowhere? That's

1133
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 5: the feeling like he sort of came out of nowhere.

1134
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 5: But that's not the truth. Yeah, but it feels that way, right,

1135
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 5: not the truth doing it. Plus, it takes a minute

1136
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 5: to acclimate to the NBA, so let's keep that Night's

1137
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 5: still a young guy, but he's been averaging thirty plus,

1138
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 5: which seems like foreverybody. But it seems like exactly, so

1139
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 5: it's not out of nowhere. It just feels that way.

1140
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 5: And now they're on a bigger stage and all those

1141
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 5: things change a reputation. That's when the kids tell the

1142
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 5: older folks like, see we told you now when it's

1143
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 5: not a big stage like this doesn't matter what market

1144
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 5: they're playing for, and that's how you create that reputation

1145
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 5: and that's what makes you a superstar, and we can

1146
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 5: actually transition into that. But before we move past the timberwolves,

1147
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 5: and I'm sure we're gonna bring them up again. Timberwolves

1148
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 5: just looking weak compared to the thunder. They're not wolves, Rich,

1149
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 5: But this is a viral story today. I see this.

1150
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I did see this though, on

1151
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 5: my way to work this morning. We live out here

1152
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 5: in Los Angeles. I'm never up at this early, you know,

1153
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 5: that four or five am hour here on the West coast,

1154
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 5: you know, getting ready to come here. Yeah, it's not

1155
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 5: our normal schedule. Normally we're on two to four on

1156
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 5: the west, five to seven pm on the east. What

1157
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 5: were those wolves in Game of Thrones? I swear I

1158
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 5: saw a dire wolf on my street. I think you're lying.

1159
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 5: I mean it could you might argue, Rich was probably

1160
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 5: a little coyote. But in my mind this morning, as

1161
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 5: I pulled out of my driveway, I'm like, this is

1162
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 5: a dire wolf. I want you to look this up immediately. Immediately.

1163
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 5: I immediately texted my wife, don't let our dog outside

1164
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 5: like that. Saw a shadow in my mind, in my

1165
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 5: four point thirty in the morning mind this morning I

1166
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 5: was like, I think John Snow is walking a dire

1167
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 5: wolf on my street. Dude, they are everywhere in Los Angeles.

1168
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys have seen the stories. You sell

1169
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 5: that story with Tommy Lee's dog. Right, some coyote hopped

1170
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 5: over like a ten foot fence grabbed this dog dog

1171
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 5: and yeah, hungry man, Yo, these things are wild right,

1172
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 5: So literally there's a story today, or I saw it today.

1173
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 5: I think it was a timber wolf, not a wolf.

1174
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 5: Not a timber wolf, but five coyotes. Five coyotes I

1175
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 5: think equal one wolf, but five. You can ask me

1176
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 5: one man or five coyotes. No, no, no, no. Five

1177
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 5: coyotes versus a ceping Five coyotes are a silver bag girl.

1178
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 5: And I think this story is a random stray black

1179
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 5: labrador fights off and fens off five coyotes. Now, I

1180
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 5: don't know, like, of course, maybe you're thinking, of course

1181
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 5: a lab could fight off five coyote. To me, I

1182
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: was like, Yo, that's impressive. This five pack of coyotes

1183
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 5: attack and one black lab fights him off. That's viral today.

1184
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 5: Protecting the I thought it was protecting the house and

1185
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 5: the kids. But I think it was a stray and

1186
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 5: it was all caught on film and it went viral

1187
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 5: this morning on my way and I saw, Yeah.

1188
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 7: It says wildlife cam shows stray dog fighting on right.

1189
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 5: The stray got the best of him when he drew

1190
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 5: a tunnel on a brick wall. Really tricked the coyotes. Nice. Yes, yes,

1191
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 5: so look out for that. It's a local LA story though.

1192
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 7: From my understanding. Raa, California.

1193
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I saw it on the news today, but again,

1194
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 5: not wolves but coyotes. Props to that black lab. Pretty sweet.