1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Third hour of the program. We're going to get to 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: a lot of your calls. Want to reset the headline here, 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: I would say the number one story by far is 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: that Britney Griner, w NBA player, on her way home. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: The Merchant of death, Victor Boot, has been traded for her, 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: and that is ongoing. Donald Trump just put out a 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: statement on truth Social. I would encourage you by the way. 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: You know, I hate to Barager draw attention to the show, 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: but I think our discussion of Victor Boot, Britney Griner 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: and all of its permutations in our one probably the 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: best media discussion and most intelligent you're gonna hear on 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: this issue. Trump, and I'm reading directly from his truth 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Social said a lot of what we said. With this statement, 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: what kind of a deal is it to swa Brittney Griner, 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: a basketball player who openly hates our country for the 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: man known as quote the Merchant of Death, who was 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: one of the biggest arms dealers anywhere in the world 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: and responsible for tens of thousands of deaths and horrific injuries. 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Why wasn't former Marine Paul Whylan included in this totally 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: one sided transaction. He would have been let out for 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: the asking what a stupid and unpatriotic embarrassment for the 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: United States. Now an hour two we brought on right 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: at the top and Culter, and she went to war 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: with Trump and the idea that he should be the 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: nominee in twenty four. In so doing, I think she 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: publicly said a lot of what private conversations are going 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: on now. She didn't endorse anybody else, and in fact, 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: we may need to have her on at some point 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: to be an advocate for whatever side she wants. But 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: she is coming after Trump and I want to read Buck. 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of emails here that I think 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: are funny. And then we're gonna go to your calls, 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Jim says. And this is just a representative sample of 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: the emails that are rolling into the show reacting by 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: the way, clanbuck dot com become a VIP to send 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: us these emails directly. Please, That is right, These are 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: all our VIPs writing in and is absolutely correct as 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: I read this is sorry, this is Jim who's saying 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: she's absolutely correct. No matter what happens, Trump can't win. 42 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: He cannot win the Midwest with his demeanor. No matter 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: what a great president he was, with the ideas he had, 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: all personality, He'll never win again. Everyone in the middle 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: here in Wisconsin, Jim is from Wisconsin, cannot be pursued, 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: even if the end of the world was the possibility, 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: just saying. Brian says, I enjoy the show, love what 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: you both stand for. I just listened to and Culter. 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: She has her opinion beliefs and I have mine. I 50 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: turned it off and Culter is belittling and she was 51 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: inconsiderate and obnoxious to the point that I felt I 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: needed to email you. That is, by the way, Brian 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: Cole said, you get Chris here because Chris is on 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: the go ahead, completely agreeing with a Yeah, we'll read Chris, Chris. 55 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Chris wrote this into us just now. I'm completely agreeing 56 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: with Ann Coulter's take. Trump did well for us when 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: he was in office, but he was a lightning Rod 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Clay talks about what the party can do given the 59 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: midterm disappointments. It's halftime and we need to change the 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: QB Sports hashtag sports Desantists is similar in backbone and vigor, 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: but at least to date, as not and hopefully will 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: not spoon feed the left with material against him as 63 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: Trump continues to do. Given the negativity that Trump affiliation 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: meant to some of the election candidates, you guys need 65 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: to let Trump go or we will lose by the 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: way desantists will bury Trump in a debate. Look, I 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: think this is really important, Clay, because I think to 68 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people, lets say, people are extended family 69 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: on the right, Conservatives, Republicans, etc. They don't want to 70 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: upset their fellow conservative of Trump supporters by saying this 71 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: stuff to them because or even by calling in necessarily. 72 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: The emails that I'm seeing are far more supportive of 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: some aspects at least of what Anne said. Calls seem 74 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: to be skewing to this show right now, much more 75 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: toward Trump. Interesting Rebecca, By the way, in spite of 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: having been a Trump supporter, I'm in complete agreement with 77 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: the author you just had on. I just tuned in, 78 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: so I missed her full name, but I think her 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: first name as Anne, which is actually really funny. Trump 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: may have been a great president, but the Democrats and 81 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: his inability to reign in his mouth have ruined him, 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: and he's now pulling the Republican Party down with him again. 83 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: This is we're reading emails from VIPs Herschel. Walker was 84 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: running in Georgia because Trump hand picked him. He was 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: absolutely not the best choice for Republicans as a candidate. 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: Candidates that Trump was behind lost because they were supported 87 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: by Trump. My opinion is DeSantis is a better candidate. 88 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: I also think you need to stop pushing Trump. I 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: would just argue, we're not pushing anybody, but we need 90 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: a different candidate for president if Republicans have any hope 91 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: to win. Now, a couple of funny ones buck and 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: I think Anne would even have to admit that a 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: couple of these are funny. This is from I believe 94 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Marie Trump is a is the best Republican. That's why 95 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: he won in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. Yes, he won. 96 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: When Ann Coulter cuts that long, stringy hair and wins 97 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: an election, I'll listen to her advice about proper Republican 98 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: candidates for president or dog catcher. She's all mouth and 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: no couth, and then Ian says. Ian says, I love 100 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: your show, listen to it every day. The way that 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: arrogant trash bag came on your show and trash Republicans 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: was disgraceful. She's obviously not a true Republican. She is 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: the definition of a rhino. If I ever hear her 104 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: on the show again, I'll turn it off and never 105 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: listen to the show again. She is evil. Now, let 106 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: me just say and I could have read Ann and 107 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: Rush went back like twenty years, used to hang out 108 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: together all the time. He used to love her books. 109 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: So just Anne has been in this movement and been 110 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: a voice in it since honestly since I was in 111 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: like high school or college. So it's not like we're 112 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: pulling somebody who hasn't out of thin air, who hasn't 113 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: done a tremendous amount in terms of books and for 114 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: the movement in general. I do want to get to calls, Clay, 115 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: do you want to get to some of these Well, 116 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: let me just say this in response, I have done 117 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: radio my whole life. Whenever somebody says I will never 118 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: listen to the show again, they always listen to the 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: show again, and they always listen more than they ever 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: have before. So look, I would just say this cancel 121 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: culture is a Democrat thing. If you don't want us 122 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: to have a people on with opinions that may sometimes 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: be different than yours, then frankly you're listening to the 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: wrong show. Because this is going to be a real battle. 125 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: I would say that Buck and I are the equivalent 126 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: of boxing referees. Now, this is a big forum. There's 127 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of punches throwne We're going to 128 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: try to keep the fight as fair as we possibly 129 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: can as the Republican primary plays out. But I don't 130 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: see it as our responsibility to say to all of you, 131 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: you have to vote this way, or you have to 132 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: believe how would this work. We know that at least 133 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: and this is just this is we can point to 134 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: the data to various straw poles. At least a third 135 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: of this audience is it's Trump or nobody. At least 136 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: a third of this audience is it's decentists or nobody, 137 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: And then there's another you know, third, give or take. 138 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Obviously that maybe are kind of in between, or think 139 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: about even Pompeo or Junken or whomever. Right, so we 140 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: have to serve the entire audience with this massive platform 141 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: and have the conversation so that we can get to 142 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: the best place as a party for the country. With 143 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: that in mind, let me see if we still have 144 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: these calls up hit the deck. Everybody, Andy in Kentucky 145 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: has got some thoughts for us. What do you got, Andy, Yes, yes, sir, 146 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm here. I think Mike Pompeo's the best chance. And 147 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: the root of my argument is I want to win, 148 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: and we just can't keep going down the road of 149 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: shooting ourselves in the foot. We have to win. So 150 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: if we're gonna win, we can't have people that are, 151 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: on their face gonna aggravate thirty five percent of the 152 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: population when they turn on the news. And I know 153 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: that we got to deal with the news. It is 154 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: not friendly to us. I live here in the swamp 155 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: of Kentucky where we gotta deal with Mitch McConnell. But 156 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: if it's Mitch McConnell versus some left wing loon, I 157 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: guess I gotta go with Mitch. And I just say, 158 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, if Kentucky's the swamp, we're really we're really 159 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: up a creek here, so I think, But I know 160 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: what you mean. No, that's that's what cocaine Mitch, as 161 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: he used to be called as a joke, obviously representing 162 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: representing state of Kentucky. Hunter in Texas. He's fired up. 163 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: What's up Hunter? Yeah? Hello, Well forever dittos to my 164 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: hero Rush Limbaugh. First time caller, a long time listener. 165 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: And you know, the conventional wisdom and the drive buys 166 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: are all saying Trump's done, Trump's done, Trump's over. Twenty 167 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: twenty two poor performance demonstrates that Trump is politically finished, 168 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: and and culture and many of our friends out there 169 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: are saying Trump has done. We can't ever be with 170 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: Trump again. Then I just want to say my opinion. 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: I want to say that everyone is let's just breathe in, 172 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: breathe out. I know twenty twenty two was a big disappointment, 173 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: but Trump is not finished. Trump is not over. He 174 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: has not turned his back on anybody. He is still 175 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: the leader of our movement and it is a big movement. 176 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: It is the biggest movement in the country. And that's 177 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: just that's what I wanted to say. Thanks for the call. 178 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Our producer Ali just said, we appreciate SBF for giving 179 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: us a call and letting us know, letting us know 180 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: from the Bahamas that he's a closet Trump supporter, which 181 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: which is pretty funny. Let's go down, Matt Mattam, Michigan. Yes, sir, 182 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for having me on. Hey, just quick comments. 183 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm a lifetime Rush listener. You guys are doing a 184 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: fantastic job. But I gotta say, you know, Trump, I'm 185 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: Trump all the way twenty sixteen. I was looking for 186 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: a guy that would come in, that was an outsider. 187 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: He did just that. Never believed he would won when 188 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: the media thought he'd never win. That's why he got in. 189 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: If he wasn't, if that hadn't, if they just thought 190 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: he had a chance of getting in, they'd be doing 191 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: all these things they've done over the last few years. 192 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: And I gotta say that, you know, I heard analysis 193 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: the other day. I think Trump is still two hundred 194 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: and twenty out of like eighteen as far as what 195 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: he won in the candidates he supported. I would support 196 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: de Santis. I loved Santis. But you guys know you 197 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: should listen to the piece that they did on Newsmax 198 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: with Greg Kelly. You know it should. Desanis is a 199 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: Trump guy. I mean everything, He's good. He's got to 200 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: where he is because of Trump. Look, I appreciate it. 201 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: I just I don't think you know what I mean. 202 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: It's at some point, at some point this the sense 203 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: gives way to the or rather the Jedi gives way 204 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: to the Patawa. Like you know, he's just because somebody 205 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: at one point in his career gave him a hand up, 206 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he's forever beholden to that person. In 207 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: my opinion, No, I think that's under percent. Right. We 208 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: got a bunch more. Let's get a couple more calls 209 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: in here. Maxine in North Carolina. What do you think? Hey, yeah, 210 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: I could get canceled because of my voice. They might 211 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: recognize it, but I don't care. I'm Democrat, but as 212 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: soon as Trump came on the stage, I knew, and 213 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I knew, and we all remember how well he has 214 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: done even with his hands tied behind his back. He 215 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: can do that job. He can outstand any Republicans, any Democrats. 216 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: I do not believe there is a single person out 217 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: there that can stand up. I totally get that argument. Vaccine, Sorry, 218 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off. You're a big Trump supporter. 219 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: You're in North Carolina when you talk with your friends, 220 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: is there a Trump to Santist discussion. What is that conversation? 221 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: Like there, wishy washee, they like the Santis. I say, 222 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: the Santis needs to state in that Republican state and 223 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: cultivate it and reread it more Republicans battled it. I 224 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: believe that all of the Republicans that are strong should 225 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: stay right there where they are put their support behind Trump. 226 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: And you know what, no matter all of the obstructions 227 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: that the Democrats have given them and the establishment, right, 228 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: he still was getting that job done. And just today 229 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: on the news, I was watching about the Abraham Accords 230 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: and they're building that up. That was the biggest thing 231 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: that he did and he will continue to be the 232 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: work and he does not even need any repair. So 233 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: I think before we get a break real quick, Dan 234 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: and Myrtle Beach. Dan, we got about a minute. What 235 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: do you got for us? Well, what I think is 236 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter who runs in twenty four, they're 237 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: going to be called racist, misogynist, does xenofolk everything. But 238 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: you're right about that. Yeah, So so even if the 239 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Santis runs, they're still gonna throw all that stuff at him, 240 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: but then also be able to say he's worse than Trump. 241 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: So the only candidate that they won't be able to 242 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: say is worse than Trump is gonna be Trump himself. 243 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: He'll get the same crap that that all the other 244 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: ones will get, and the Santis will get the same 245 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: crap that Trump gets. But at least Trump won't be 246 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: worse than Trump. Thanks, thanks for the call. There is 247 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: no doubt what he's right about. Down in Myrtle Beach 248 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: is whoever the Republican nominee is. And by the way, 249 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: it could be a black guy, it could be a 250 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: half Indian woman. Right, they're going to say that they're racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic. 251 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. The same insults are going to rain 252 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: down on whomever the Republican nominee ends up being. If 253 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: you doubt me, Larry Elder was the black face of 254 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: white supremacy according to the LA Time. So it doesn't 255 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: even matter at this point what your background is. We 256 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: know what the Democrat attack plan is going to be. 257 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: We'll continue to take a few more your calls. 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Welcome back 335 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you 336 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: listening to us as we power through the Thursday edition 337 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: of the program, and we are joined now by media giant. 338 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to be referred to that one day radio 339 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: industry veteran Jeff smalleyan. He has done an amazing job 340 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: as the CEO of EM's Communications. He's got a brand 341 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: new book, Never Ride a Roller Coaster upside Down, the 342 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: ups downs and reinvention of an entrepreneur. And I love this, Jeff, 343 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: and thank you for coming on with us. You say 344 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: there's a fine line between a genius and an idiot. 345 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Some people would say we walk that line, sometimes straying 346 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: in both directions on this radio program every day. What 347 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: have you found in business about that fine line. Well, 348 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: I've said, you know that there is a fine line, 349 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: and I've been on many sides, many times, both sides. 350 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: In the book, I have a chapter Idiot to Genius, 351 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: which is a start of wf AN, which is the 352 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: first all sports radio station. And all of our guys 353 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: said it was single stupidest idea of all time. Jim 354 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: Lampley called it the Vietnam War of Emma's and it 355 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: was a kind of a disaster. And since it was 356 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: my baby, I got needled about it. They called it 357 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Smollion's folly. And then one day it turned around. We 358 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: put down iMOS on the air, we had Roussou and 359 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: Francessa and the next day it was a national success 360 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: and I went from idiot to genius. And then after 361 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: that we bought the Seattle Mariners, and I was kind 362 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: of the boy wonder out there, and I was signing 363 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: autographs and doing all sorts of interviews, and everybody loved 364 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: the marketing and the new look of the team, and 365 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: I was a genius. And then when it didn't work, 366 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: I became an idiot. And I always said, there's nothing 367 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: worse than being an idiot in front of forty thousand 368 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: people every night. So that's what's the move. Go ahead, 369 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: Go ahead, jo Jeff no. I just said, that's what 370 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: I've learned about life. That's why it's a roller coaster. 371 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. You just kept to, 372 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, grit your teeth and smile through all of it. 373 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: If someone's coming up to you and they say, you know, 374 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: I think I want to either start a business or 375 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: take a big risk, you know, an expansion, so some 376 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: form of entrepreneurial shift or elevation. If someone's like, I 377 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: want to do this, how do you advise them? Because 378 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: I know we've got a lot of people listening who 379 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: maybe already have a business or thinking about starting in business, 380 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: and they might sit back and say, oh, I don't know, 381 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: should I really do this? What do you say when 382 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: people come up to you with somebody who have tried 383 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: things and had big successes but also taken big risks well. 384 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: And that's why I wrote the book. I think, listen. 385 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: I think if you believe in something and you love it, 386 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: and you're willing to put it all on the line 387 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: and have that kind of passion, I think you can 388 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: be successful. You aren't always successful, but I think you 389 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: know if you if you want to do something you 390 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: care passionately enough about it, you got to do it. 391 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: You started sports talker radio, and people out there listening 392 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: know that I came from the sports talker radio universe. 393 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: You also owned the Seattle Mariners at one point. I'm curious, 394 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: Buck and I were just talking. This de Santis versus 395 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: Trump battle reminds me of Alabama versus Auburn. It reminds 396 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: me of Ohio State versus Michigan conversations that can take 397 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: place depending on those marketplaces every single day. Yankees Red 398 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: Sox is another good one where that rivalry is so 399 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: passionate it fuels the conversation all the time. What did 400 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: you find about sports talk radio? And a lot of 401 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: people dream about it, but what was it like owning 402 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: a pro sports franchise. Well, I'm one of my favorite 403 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: lines with somebody once said every man in America once 404 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: owned a Major League Baseball team, except the twenty eight 405 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: guys who do. But I loved it. We made a 406 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: lot of friends. I was proud of the work we 407 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: did in Seattle. I always said we weren't rich enough 408 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: to own the Mariners. I joked and said, you really 409 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: had to be a billionaire on the Mariners or the 410 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals. But if you had a good paper route, 411 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: you could own the Yankees of the Dodgers. You know. 412 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: It was just the economics were widely different in those days. 413 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: But I loved it. I'm really proud of some of 414 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: the things. Stuff of the stuff we invented in the ballpark, 415 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: situational music, movie clips and contests and games you see 416 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: everywhere now. But it was absolutely revolutionary. Then we're speaking 417 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: to Jeff Small and he's the founder and CEO of 418 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: MS Communications. His book is Never Ride a Roller Coaster 419 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: Upside Down. Good Advice by the way, the ups downs 420 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: and Reinvention of an Entrepreneur. Jeff, what are you? What 421 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: are the trends that you see right now in media? 422 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking to you right now on radio 423 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: stations across America. But we also have Websiteclanbock dot com. 424 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: We've got podcast going, We've got streaming video. You know, 425 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: Clay built a sports digital sports business at OutKick. We 426 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: both do hits on TV at Fox. And you know, 427 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: what do you see as the trajector right now? I mean, 428 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: streaming is a big part of the conversation. Subscription service 429 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: is a big part of the conversation. Where do you 430 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: see it all going? Well, it's all fragmented so much, 431 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, the biggest challenge of streaming 432 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: is can you find enough subscribers? Can you find an 433 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: economic model. It's easier with talk than it is with 434 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: music because you have giant music royalties, which is why 435 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: Spotify went into podcasting, you know, so they didn't have 436 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: to pay the royalties. It is. It's a fragmented world 437 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: if you if you follow the streaming services and video. 438 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: There's a big question as to whether the regional sports 439 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: networks can survive because so many people have cut the chords. 440 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: We have, you know, three forty million people and everybody's 441 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: got you know, fragmented places they go and it's hard 442 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: to know how it'll shake out, only that it's totally 443 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: different and you have to sort of be flexible enough 444 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: to adapt. I think you guys have done a brilliant job, 445 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, putting your content in a lot of different places. 446 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: It may work in some places, it may not be 447 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: profitable in others. But I think we're in an era 448 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: where you just have to experiment with a lot of 449 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: different things. We get the question a lot, Jeff, and 450 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on in the book. Sounds really fascinating. 451 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: If you were talking to a young person today and 452 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: Buck said, you know you're interested in entrepreneurship or but 453 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: if you are interested in moving into media, what would 454 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: you tell them is the most important thing they should 455 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: be learning in order to train themselves going forward. Well, again, 456 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: I think there's two things. I think number one the 457 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: most important thing is your word. When you work with somebody, 458 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: If you if they know your word is good and 459 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: they trust you, that that helps you an awful lot 460 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: in any enterprise. I don't care whether it's you know, 461 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: starting a job, or being married, or having kids or 462 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: having friends. I also think, again, you have to have 463 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: the passion I tell people starting out when you get 464 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: a new job, volunteer for more stuff, the more people 465 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: can count on you, and the more you know you 466 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: know you are willing to go out and do things, 467 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: the more you move up you know the food chain. 468 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: No doubt, the book is fabulous. We need to have 469 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: you on maybe somewhere down the line. Again. We appreciate 470 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: all the support you've shown for this show and we 471 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: would encourage everybody out there to go make sure that 472 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: they check it out the book again. Never ride a 473 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: rollercoaster upside down, the ups downs and reinvention of an 474 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: entrepreneur on the way out. I'll let you say this. 475 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: You obviously have an incredible, uplifting sort of mindset about you. 476 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: How much of your success do you think is internal 477 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: based on the energy that you put out into the 478 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: world for everybody out there in terms of their own lives. Well, 479 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: I think it's internal because I think you have to 480 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: have a spark. Although I've said somebody said, what's it 481 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: take to be an entrepreneur? I said, look, we're all 482 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: the entrepreneurs of our own lives. You know that we 483 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: really are. I think part of its internal, part of 484 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: it is I've been fortunate to work with people my 485 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: whole career, who I just love and who make me 486 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: look smarter than I am every day and that helps 487 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: a lot, no doubt. Jeff Smallon is the author. We 488 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: encourage you to go check out his book. Thank you 489 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: for the time today, sir, Thanks, Thanks guys, it's great, 490 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, no doubt. We're here every day to let 491 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: you know, to try to make sure that you don't 492 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: have to ever visit the post office again. Especially you 493 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: know what I was doing yesterday, Buck, I had to 494 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: go to the the post office to get my kids passports. 495 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: You have to be there, and I thought to myself 496 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: as I saw the long lines of people spiraling out 497 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: the door to get their packages shipped. Oh man, I'm 498 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: glad that I've got stamps dot Com. 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You will have the con solo, so 527 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: it'll be a great Friday show here on Clay in 528 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: buck m We obviously have had We've got quite a 529 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: day to day all the program. It's been quite a day, 530 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: not a lot of news today, but yet we really 531 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: dove into Look, let's we're just being honest. We're just 532 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: dove into the discussion that every Republican in the country 533 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: is having. Some of them are whispering it to each other, 534 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: Others are having it, you know, out loud and proud. 535 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: But you know, there's this is what everyone's talking about. 536 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: You know, who is the guy or gal who is 537 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: the leader of the GOP going forward. We got just 538 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: so you know, so many emails, literally hundreds of emails 539 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: on this topic. And also the phone lines Clay have 540 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: been lit the whole time. The emails, we can go 541 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: through a bunch of them, and these are from our VIPs. 542 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: We want to get email access to the VIP box. 543 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Go to claynbuck dot com. Please subscribe, become a VIP 544 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: right there. Suzanne writes in she says, those who are 545 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: not supporting Trump are giving into the Democrats and all 546 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: that they are doing to try to bring down Trump. 547 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: It's their goal to tank people's opinion on Trump. Trump 548 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: will never lose my support now just next email I 549 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: see here Michael Clay, for example, de Santis at the moment, 550 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: looks to be the best choice. Love and Culter. She's 551 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: my political wife. So I mean, we're running the gambut here. Yeah, 552 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: I just continuing to look through the list here. Um, 553 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: Linda Anne is correct. I left the Trump train when 554 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: he decided to insult to Santis and Junkin. He claims 555 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: he's a counter puncher. Well, neither of those two attacked him. 556 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: He started it. If he's gonna trash other Republicans who 557 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: are doing a great job to clear a path for himself, 558 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: we get enough of that crap from the Democrats. Cheryl says, 559 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: I listened to Anne today. I've known for some time 560 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: she's not a fan of Trump. However, she comes across 561 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: with such hatred in her voice. I'm inclined to tune 562 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: her out. I do listen to critical thoughts about Trump 563 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: and other conservatives, but I hear so much hatred from 564 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: the left and anywhere on television it becomes too depressing 565 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: for me. And so I mean, I look these emails, buck. 566 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I gotta give credit to our audience out here, and 567 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: the callers have been good too, But you and I. 568 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: During commercial breaks, the vip emails have been rolling in. 569 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. We've gotten hundreds of reactions to an 570 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly regardless of the perspective that people are taking, at 571 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: least the ones that are sharing with us eloquence reason 572 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: like whether you agree or disagree with the perspective it is. 573 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm impressed by our vip emailers and what they are 574 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: bringing to the table. Um, here's we are wrapped in stacks. 575 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: Ye say, guys, you know you guys, you know the 576 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: drill right dittos, megadddos. Please make it real quick, get 577 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: right to it, because we've had I mean, we can't 578 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: even count all the calls that have been coming in. 579 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: We want to get your voices heard here. Um, we 580 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: have Robert and Greendale, Wisconsin. How you doing, Robert, go 581 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: to it. I'm doing great. Life is good. Life is good. 582 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm a big Trump guy. Listen, when Donald Trump hits 583 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: the steps of the way of the House, He's gonna 584 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: be running because he knows what to do. Been in there. 585 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: De Stantis will have to spend two or three years 586 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: figuring out how dark to swamp is. I think he 587 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: should run for president. Pick the standard for VP and 588 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: then give us twelve years. I think that's how we 589 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: should goal. I appreciate the call. I appreciate you guys 590 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin sending our buddy Ron Johnson back to the Senate. 591 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: Corey in Pennsylvania. What you got with us, Well, listen, 592 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: Man and Coulter is dead on. When you lose a 593 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: major political race in this country, no one comes back 594 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: and wins later. Once you've got the stench of loser 595 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: and politics on you, you're done. It's hard to do now. 596 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: Richard Nixon lost to Kennedy and then came back in 597 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: one I believe, am I correct? Teddy Roosevelt lost and 598 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: then came back in one. Biden has had lost what 599 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: at least two, if not three times. I think it 600 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: might have been three times previously in two thousand and 601 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: eight for sure, so at least twice he was he 602 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: was out of the mix. But no, I look, this 603 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: is really the point, and this gets to another really 604 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: contentious point of debate. You have people who say, I 605 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: hear this clay all the time from Trump supporters. Okay, 606 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: I voted for Trump twice. I know tons of Trump 607 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: supporters all over the country personally and of course through 608 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: this program, you guys are all our extended family here. 609 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: I hear from them and they say Trump lost in 610 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I love him, but it's time to move on. 611 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: What's fascinating, though, is that on the other side of 612 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: people who say, no, that's not right. Trump actually won 613 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. It's not fair to say he lost. 614 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: That's something that is going to get hashed out here 615 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: in the in the weeks and months ahead, I think, 616 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: because that's the central part of this, because we gotta 617 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: you know that that's going to be part of the conversation. 618 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: Is he a guy who lost the last election? Because 619 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: if he's a guy who lost the lost pardon me, 620 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: lost the last election, then there's going to be some ramifications. 621 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people who say that's 622 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: not fair and there was cheating. So we got to 623 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: figure this out, no doubt. And I would also say 624 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: age is going to actor in here. There's some people 625 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: who are going to say, well, if the Democrats are 626 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: running Joe Biden and he's going to be eighty two 627 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: years old, do we want to run a seventy eight 628 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: year old. I think that's a part of some of 629 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: the way that people are thinking. By the way, I 630 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: want to hit one more email and then we're gonna 631 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: get back to your calls here to close out the show, 632 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: Scott wrote from the VIPs, I've listened to EIB for 633 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: over thirty two years. I love what Trump did and 634 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: voted for him twice, but I hate the man. Trump 635 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: is destructive and needs to go away. DeSantis is the 636 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: much better candidate and is much better and more electable. 637 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: But that debate is going on out there in Earnest 638 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: Russ in Roanoak, Virginia. You've got a question for us 639 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: that might wed to two. What's your perspective here? Yeah, 640 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: I brought it up as your other caller about Desanti's 641 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: Trump running as a ticket. He said, because they both 642 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: are from Florida, that would mess up the electoral College votes. 643 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: But Trump would either need to relocate to Texas or Tennessee. Yeah, 644 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: let me let me explain that. It's a really big 645 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: question that we get asked all the time, and I 646 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: have to give credit to a listener of this program 647 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: who actually had me go back and look up this. 648 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: So the challenge is, if Trump and DeSantis are both 649 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: from the same state, then Let's say Trump is the 650 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: president and DeSantis is the vice president, then technically you 651 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: don't get the Florida electoral votes. That's a non starter. 652 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: So in order for that to be rectified, DeSantis is 653 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: the governor, so he can't leave Florida. Trump would have 654 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: to be a citizen of a different state to avoid 655 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: constitutional mess over getting the twenty plus electoral votes from 656 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: Florida to count in twenty twenty four. There hasn't been 657 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about that in the media, but 658 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: it is something that would keep us from potentially being 659 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: able to wed both arms of the party. The other thing, 660 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Buck say, as we go out the one term for Trump, 661 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: big discussion from a lot of people too. Even if 662 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: you love Trump, best case scenario, you get him four years. 663 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be trying to hit steal at two 664 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: hundred yards with nothing but iron sights tomorrow, Clay doing 665 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: this one does Sexton brothers out at the range need 666 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: a day to day to clear the head. But you're 667 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: gonna be here. You have the Khan, as they say 668 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: in the Navy, you are gonna be at the command center. 669 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: So give folks a sense of what's gonna be coming 670 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: in Clay's world. We're gonna have fun tomorrow to get 671 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: you ready for the weekend. I believe we have a 672 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: couple of guests lined up, but including Russia. Limbaugh's wife Catherine, 673 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: who was going to join us, should be fantastic. She's 674 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: got a Christmas book out, and we'll just have a 675 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: lot of fun. We'll go buen up the phone lines. 676 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: We'll roll you into the weekend. Buck will be back 677 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: with me on Monday. Appreciate all of you tremendous feedback 678 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: today