1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Double Elvis question, has there ever been another geographical location 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: to take over the musical landscape in the same way 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: grunge did in the early nineteen nineties. When mud Honey's 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight EP super Fuzz Big Muff was reissued 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: twenty years after its release in two thousand and eight, 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: which is almost twenty years ago now, blogger, podcaster and 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: zine maker and all around grunge and underground punk expert 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Jay Himmon had this to say. My feeling, and I 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: know I'm not alone in this one, is that for 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: all the play in worldwide attention several Seattle bands got 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: during the nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety two period, 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and even at the 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: same time, there was mud Honey and there was everybody else. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: To me, you and everyone else paying close attention to 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: underground rock music during those years, mud Honey still sounds 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: like the under disputed kingpins of roaring, surging, fuzzed out 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: punk music end quote. So why do these undisputed kingpins 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: never get their due? And where do these loose threads 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: and unresolved credits leave the Seattle scene. Now it's one 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: of those movements where the further away it gets, the 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: larger it seems to loom. These days, Grunge is the 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: long shadow that emerging musicians in the Pacific Northwest have 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: to shake off before they can do anything else Where 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: does the hype of a moment that echoes and echoes 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: leave the creators living there now? 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: It's hard to be the next. 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Anything when the story of a genre is so entrenched 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: in your city. Mud Honey were the original stokers of 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: the grunge fire, but what would their influence lead to 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: post grunge? Seattle still has a story to tell, and 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: there is a sound to this town, as tangled up 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: as it might be in the shadow of the past. 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: Hit a cardboard Town and Buget Sound. A cracker jack 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: was jacking up the bottom over frown while the little 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: wooden man in his tiny paper mate danced a crazy 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: jigsaw puzzle. And they left at all. They hate Harry 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: Nilsen Puget Sound. 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: The band mud Honey isn't even a household name. In fact, 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: depending on who you ask, they're not even close. Eleven albums, 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: steam fans like Kurt Cobain and pre eminent status on subpop, 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: the flagship label of the Seattle Sound, and yet aside 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: from aficionados and deep listeners, the band remains largely unknown. 43 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Without mud Honey, though, there's no grunge scene in Seattle, 44 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: no fuse to light the fireworks that exploded into the 45 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: most legendary music movement on the West Coast. No Nirvana, 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: no Sound Garden, no Pearl Jam, no unrelenting decade of 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: rock brilliance. Mud Honey took their first steps as an 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: anti establishment act exactly because of what came before them, 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: hair metal, glam rock, the unblinking, polished to nothing sheen 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: of the nineteen eight eighties, in the emptiness that lurked 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: below the emptiness. Actually, maybe the Seattle Sound started right 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: before mun Honey, because before them, there was Jimmy, Yes, 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: that Jimmy, Jimmy Hendrix, the only jim the unspeakable god 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: of all that is holy among guitarists, especially since his early, 55 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: untimely death affords him the generosity of being in case 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: in amber at the golden age of twenty seven, when 57 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: everything is beautiful and nothing hurts, and that legendary guitar 58 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: tone never had to pass through the nineteen eighties. Now, 59 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: naysayers might brate this line of thinking insisting Jimmy was 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: not grunge. But go listen to Stone Free again and 61 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: remember the first act of any band that was heavy 62 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: in the grunge scene was to deny that they were. 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Grunge, So maybe it works. 64 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Still, Jimmy did not come up in Seattle as a musician, 65 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: since his entitlement in the army took him to the South, 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: and he headed to Nashville once he was discharged. The 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: direct linkage is hard to draw, but. 68 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: Faint as it might be. Was there literally. 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Something in the water up in Seattle that caused people 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: to grow up ready to perform? Does the proximity to 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: the longitudinal and latitudinal fuzz of his guitar germinates something 72 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: yet and unheard in the creative minds of Cobain, Cornell 73 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: or mark On Mudhoney started messing around together in the 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. All the original members were in their late 75 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: twenties when Super Fuzz came out. This is a year 76 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: before twenty one year old Kirk Cobain and twenty two 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 1: year old Chris NOVACELLK form Nirvana. Eddie Vedder was twenty 78 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: six when he moved to. 79 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 2: Seattle to form Pearl Jam. That was two years later. 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Do these bands have enough in common to create a scene? 81 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: Not in most places, but in Seattle. Are coming from 82 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: a place that has given us quite a lot of music. 83 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrick, Mother Mud, Honey, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Alison James, Hard, 84 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: Audio Slave, Temple of the Doll, Screaming Trees, Melvin Desk, 85 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: cab for Q, Band of Horse, Sunny Day, Real Estate, 86 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: The Postals, Complete. 87 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 4: Fox, Noah, Gunners, Palaces. 88 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Cave Singers, Thunderbush, Bikini Kill, v Satisfactor, Taco Cat, The 89 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: sonos A, Kimbo, Allan Stone, Brandy Carr, car Seat, head Wreck, 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Chris stap Ca, The Head in the Hearts, the Presidents 91 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: of the United States of America, The pos Nico Cave, 92 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 1: The Modest Mouse, and Kenny g just to name a few. 93 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: At the heart of grunge is an inexplicable paradox. What 94 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: in the world does a grunge? 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: What is grunt? How did it come to be? 96 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: Why are we still searching for it thirty years later? 97 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: On the other side of the coin, Why does everyone 98 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: associated with it insist on bocking that label? In order 99 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: to understand how grunge emerge in the first place, It's 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: important to know what was going on in Seattle as 101 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: a whole as the city. Seattle cycled through the boom 102 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: and bus patterns that played a lot of port focused economies. 103 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: Volatility and shipping markets has existed for as long as 104 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: shipping markets have in This along with other seasonal industries 105 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: like logging in construction, meant that the bulk of workers 106 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: in Seattle were. 107 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: Regularly in and out of work. 108 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: That kind of instability breeds a certain kind of attitude, 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: and it helps people see through the facade of capitalism. 110 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: A lot easier industries like the railroad, boeing, and the 111 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: continued expansion of shipyards yielded terrible working conditions, so strikes 112 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: were common in the early nineteen hundreds, fostering a spirit 113 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: of rebellion that continued to grow in the city over 114 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: the next several decades. Even in the early twentieth century. 115 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Seattle is one of the most progressive and forward thinking 116 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: American cities in mindset and action. Miles away from any 117 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: other big cities to the east, and still a solid 118 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: two hundred mile trip from the smaller Portland to the south, 119 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: Seattle was thoroughly isolated from the rest of America. That, 120 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: combined with the influx of struggling workers, meant free time, 121 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: cheap spaces, and fewer concerts from major acts. Some locals 122 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: will complain they still get stiffed on national touring schedules, 123 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: but decades ago Internet the seclusion was real. However, underground 124 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: punk bands had less trouble touring up North, as they 125 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: typically played to tiny rooms up and down the coast 126 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and traveled by car. 127 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: That accounts for. 128 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: A lack of pop and mainstream influences and a heavy 129 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: dose of punk influences in the area. With gloomy weather 130 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: three fourths of the year and not a lot else 131 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: to do, disenfranchised youth in the eighties began to form bands, 132 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: and most of these early groups knew and influenced each other. 133 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Some even shared or treated members, and a few of 134 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: these bands, mud Honey in particular, began to hone in 135 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: on a fuzzed out, distorted, sardonic sound, and the backlash 136 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: to the popularity of the movement was growing right alongside 137 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: the sound itself. For a city that had been ignored 138 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: for decades to suddenly be under the spotlight for clothing, 139 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: sea flannel, I guess long hair loud guitars and an 140 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: anti establishment ethos made no sense to those purveying it. 141 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Really now the world cared. It was almost laughable. These 142 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: bands were making fun of the mainstream, literally wailing against it. 143 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: And still this is what made the mainstream come calling 144 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: with the attention of the world. Came in insistence that 145 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: all these Seattle bands were one thing. 146 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: And that thing was grunge. 147 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: If you've ever taken even an hour to listen to 148 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: some of the most popular bands from the era, it's 149 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: so clearly not the case. 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: To this day. 151 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: Reddit commenters and forum discussions regularly rack up hundreds of 152 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: threads discussing just how little in common a lot of 153 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: these groups have, from Nirvana and Soundgarden to Alice in 154 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: Chains and Screaming Trees. The guitars might be there, but 155 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: how each band uses them is entirely different. Others may 156 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: argue that particular singing style the yar, unites them more, 157 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: but that's a rabbit trail for another time. With the 158 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: support of local legendary label Subtop to help get these 159 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: bands overseas, regularly releasing records and hosting shows in town, 160 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: the little scene that could grew into something so sprawling 161 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: that bands are moving from other places to try to 162 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: get a piece of it. Carpetbagging was another big part 163 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: of why locals rejected the idea of being grunged themselves, 164 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: and watching the success of bands who are writing the 165 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: coattails of a local organic sound was another element spurring 166 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: the backlash to grunge. 167 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 4: Even as it. 168 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Began, the bands who are involved already wanted out. They 169 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: wanted to live in a post grunge world, and now 170 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: that we do, Seattle is still thriving with a current 171 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: day underground music scene and the best place to visit 172 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: to get a sense of the past, present and future, well, 173 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: we will make that our first stop at one of 174 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: the best record stores in the entire country. The Sound 175 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: of Her Town is a podcast about the music that 176 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: shaped the city you are touching down in. It is 177 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: also about hearing and experiencing its best music happening right now. 178 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: What sounds and places of shape the city's culture and 179 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: what new sounds continue to define it. It's about getting 180 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: together in a room to listen and why that matters 181 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 1: so much right now. In each episode of Sound of 182 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Our Town, I'll introduce you to the real places and 183 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: sonic stories echoing in a particular city, so that your 184 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: travel is enriched with music, and so that our time 185 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: here is fostered by the connection live music provides to 186 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: all of us, and so that maybe you can find 187 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: that special someone on the road who's attracted to the 188 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: same sounds you are. 189 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: You never know. I'm your host, Will Daily. 190 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm an independent DIY songwriter and touring artist. I've been 191 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: doing this a while and frankly, this show is also 192 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: a reminder to myself how important live music is in 193 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: our existence. And in this episode, we are going to Seattle, Washington, Okay. 194 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: First stop, Easy Street Records in cafe, well known for 195 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: hosting free in all ages listening events at the shop 196 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: consistently cited as one of the best record stores in 197 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: the country. Easy Street has been opened since nineteen eighty 198 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: eight and shows no signs of slowing down. If you 199 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: are new to the city, it's an easy first stop 200 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: to get the hang of the scene. Yes, they did 201 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: open the same year mud Honey was founded, which feels auspicious, 202 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: and since then the shop has evolved to sell its 203 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: original wares of both new and used vinyl records, as 204 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: well as CDs, DVDs, new books, magazines, t shirts, and 205 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: plenty of merch. But the trick is really that despite 206 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,359 Speaker 1: all the books and CDs, they sell not just new vinyl. 207 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: But old stuff too. 208 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: That's what gets the collectors and heads in the door, 209 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: because I feel like you can get a new vinyl 210 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: at Duncan Donuts these days, all the way out in 211 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: West Seattle, which you'll learn as you spend time in 212 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: the city is really figuring far away. The neighborhood would 213 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: also give you a sense of the splendid isolation that 214 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: a kid growing up in this city might feel. Surrounded 215 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: by trees, mountains, rain, the looming Puget Sound a million 216 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: miles from nowhere, and living under a constant cloud. To 217 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: hear a guitar or screaming through the night was like 218 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: a tiny glow that awakens something deep within. Grunge wasn't 219 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: just a sonic movement, It was an emotional one. And 220 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: what do emotional pilgrims need most get to gather and 221 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: find one another to share their love for the super unknown? 222 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: Squint real hard at Easy Street, or if you're lucky, 223 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: attend a free live show there and you can still 224 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: see the specters of other wanderers gathering. 225 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: In the wings. 226 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: Still independently known, the Storre has hosted over five hundred 227 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: live sessions in its thirty odd years of existence, including 228 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: the likes of Lou Reed, Elvis Costello, Patti Smith, Paul Westerberg, 229 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Robin Jurassic Five, Damien Gerardo, The Head and the Heart, 230 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: The Sonics and Mud Honey, and so many more. They 231 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: came because it was a rite of passage. It was 232 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the place that honored the spirit of real artists, whether 233 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: they were grunge or not. It is now, for all 234 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: intents and purposes, still that mecca, and if you come 235 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: between seven am and three pm you can get a 236 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: taste of the diner they opened up to serve all 237 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: the kids, collectors and wanderers who came their way. And 238 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: there's plenty of music nerd jokes to be had in 239 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: the names of each plate, so to treat any way 240 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: you spin it. Once you've acquired a few old records 241 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: and had your fill of a Hank Williams Western omelet, 242 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: it's time to see some live music. The Showbox Room 243 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: has been opened in some shape or form since nineteen 244 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: thirty nine, so even though it was acquired by ag 245 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: and O seven, who are definitely the devil in a 246 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: town like Seattle. 247 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: The history of the venue still makes it beloved. 248 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: At just over eleven hundred capacity, it's one of the 249 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: bigger venues in the city, but still has enough to 250 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: make it feel like an intimate spot to see your 251 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: favorite band. The oldest theater in Seattle is the More Theater, 252 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: which was built in nineteen oh seven, but the showbox 253 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: isn't that far behind. The building was constructed just a 254 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: decade later in nineteen seventeen. It wasn't officially opened as 255 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: a venue until a few more decades went by, when 256 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: it was transformed into a streamline modern performance venue in 257 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine, but it's racked up quite a following 258 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: in the last one hundred and ten years or so, 259 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: so much so that a few years ago the whole 260 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: city banded together to keep the thing open. Back in 261 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: the day, early shows in the ballroom were focused on 262 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: jazz bookings, including legends like Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Sammy 263 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: Davis Junior, and Muddy Waters, and later on down the line, 264 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: grunge icons like Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Yes, Mud Honey 265 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: graced its stage. In the summer of twenty eighteen, progress 266 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: did as progress does, and a developer announced their plans 267 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: to tear down the theater and build a forty four 268 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: story condo thing on the site, but the city reacted. 269 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: A petition gained over one hundred and ten thousand signatures 270 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: in an official proposal to turn the showbox into a 271 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: historical landmark was submitted and accepted. One line item that 272 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: helped the building prove its merits, aside from the lengthy 273 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: history and important architecture, the revelation of a secret backstage 274 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: room that contains graffiti by none other than Neil Young, 275 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: who the press deemed the godfather of grunge. If that 276 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: isn't enough to stop a condo building, what is. Thankfully, 277 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: this Art Deco relic was saved despite its proximity to 278 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: pipe place mark in the unstoppable march of tourism related development. 279 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: They will be. 280 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Preserved for history's sake for the foreseeable future. 281 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: So you are set for your trip. 282 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: The Blue Moon Tavern is not a spot that a 283 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: lot of locals will tell you to go to, even 284 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: if you ask them. I mean, for the locals who 285 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: don't regularly go there, they might not even see the 286 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: spot in a positive light. Maybe that is what contributed 287 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: to the tagline Seattle's most infamous dive bar causing a 288 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: ruckus since nineteen thirty four. 289 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: For this bar, Grunge never died. 290 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: Located in the U District aka the University District, this 291 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: spot was the preferred hang for one Theodore Retkey, a 292 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: noted American poet who moved to Seattle and taught at 293 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: the University of Washington for fifteen years. You can imagine 294 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: the literati crew who accompanied a famous poet, winner of 295 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: both the National Book Award and the Pulitzer Prize, whatever 296 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: watering hole he wanted to visit for a break from 297 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: the throes of academia. Even though wreck he died in 298 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: the sixties, that air of artists and poets lingers around 299 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: the bar. Dylan Thomas and Allen Ginsburg, you said, drain 300 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: pints and pens here. 301 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: Fair warning. 302 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: This bar is about as divy as they come. But 303 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: the no cover live music can't be beat will start 304 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: up almost every night. The current owner, Tim Dooley, was 305 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: a longtime bartender at the joint before he purchased it 306 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, so he knows what this place needs. 307 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: There is also an art night where artists are encouraged 308 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: to come through and bring their sketch books, and no 309 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: shortage of welcoming vibes for folks of any background or stripe. 310 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Back in the thirties and forties, this was one of 311 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: the few bars in the area that would serve black 312 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: servicemen during World War Two, and its inclusive attitude continues 313 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: to this day. In some ways, the Blue Moon feels 314 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: the most indicative of what grunge was supposed to be about, 315 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: going against the status quo of shiny lacquered, commercialized culture 316 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: that keeps us separated from each other a wink and 317 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: a nod at the mainstream, while providing us spot for 318 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: counterculture art to flourish and grow. Mainly based on connecting 319 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: with one another first and foremost and expressing real emotions. 320 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: But if you want to sidetrack the expression of emotions 321 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: and just get your face melted, there's plenty of places 322 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: to get that In Seattle. The Crocodile is a mainstay 323 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: in the Seattle music scene. The original five hundred and 324 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: fifty capacity room hosted Nirvana and Pearl Jam, giving it 325 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: bonafide chops that will last another lifetime. More recently, they've 326 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: booked guests like Billie Eilish, so it's still a desirable 327 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: spot for a touring musician to get on stage. I 328 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: maintain that the name a truly excellent title for a 329 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: music venue, continues to add to its popularity, but that's 330 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: just conjecture, not a fact. Located in Belltown, which is 331 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: just north of the touristy, high trafficked area around Pipe Place, 332 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: this venue manages to be central without actually being in 333 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: the thick of the most commercialized part of the city. 334 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: Its location is definitely part of its continued popularity. Nirvana 335 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: spoofed Attende's one Memorial Night by booking a show as 336 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Penn cap Chew and then getting up to play in 337 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: all their cobaane front of glory. This was nineteen ninety 338 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: two and the last time Nirvana ever played the Crocodile, 339 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: but still a talked about show to this day. Mud 340 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: Honey played here since well, mud Honey played just about 341 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: everywhere around the city. They wore Seattle's local band for 342 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: a while there, and even celebrated their tenth anniversary as 343 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: a band at the venue in a nineteen ninety seven show. 344 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: About a decade later, the venue came under the ownership 345 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: of a host of Seattle Music Royalty, Alison Chains, drummer 346 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: Sean Kinney, Alison Chain's manager, Susan Silver, Portugal The Man, 347 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: guitarist Eric Hauch, and Capitol Hill Block Party co founder 348 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Marcus Charles born that block party later. Under their stewardship, 349 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: the venue thrived until the twenty twenty era, when they 350 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: were forced to close down and move locations about three 351 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: blocks away. Fortunately, that move ended up as a boon, 352 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: as more space in the building opened up in The 353 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: entire venue complex now boasts a signature seven hundred and 354 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: fifty capacity state of the art showroom, a smaller three 355 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: hundred capacity venue, as well as in ninety six capacity 356 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: sit down theater and a restaurant, and a seventeen room hotel. 357 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: For those of you who are truly enamored with the 358 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: grunge scene, there is no hotel more relevant to your 359 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: interests than Hotel Crocodile. 360 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: So what was that Capitol Hill Block Party I mentioned? 361 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty much the best party Seattle throws all year. 362 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Originally founded it as a one day festival by Jen 363 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Gaypey in nineteen ninety seven. Marcus Charles and David Miner 364 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: took the event over in two thousand, adding a second 365 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: day and a second stage. They charged eight bucks for 366 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: a ticket and got sponsorships from local businesses like The Stranger, 367 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: slowly reinventing the festival from a local five ban day 368 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: show to a full on on three day festival that 369 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: attracts thousands of people every year. The block Party is 370 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: always held in July, which is probably the perfect time 371 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: to line up your calendar for a visit to Seattle anyways, 372 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: So if you were thinking of planning a trip this summer, 373 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: lock up the dates and get the stars to align. 374 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: You won't be surprised to learn that mud Honey played 375 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: the festival. 376 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: Capitol Hill is. 377 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: Basically the Williamsburg or the Silver Lake of Seattle, and 378 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: for those who have not been, Capitol Hill Block Party 379 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: is very much an in town festival. The Gorge one 380 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: of the most beautiful, infamous, and rare venues in the world. Yes, 381 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: it is a two hour drive from Seattle, Yes the 382 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: city claims it, anyway. Even Red Rocks is an hour 383 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: outside of Denver. There is probably no music venue more 384 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: famed on the West coast. Even if the Hollywood Bowl 385 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: and Santa Barbara Bowl would both love to take. 386 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: That honor, they simply can't. 387 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: Neither of them have a magnificent ravine plummeting into the 388 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: depths behind the stage. 389 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: Even a slight ocean view or the center of Hollywood 390 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: Hills can't compete with that. 391 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: Originally open in nineteen sixty eight with a capacity of 392 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: just three thousand people, the Gorge Amphitheater has since expanded 393 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: to accommodate nineteen thousand. 394 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: True to its name, the. 395 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: Venue offers sweeping views of the Columbia River in the 396 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: Columbia Gorge Canyon, and those sites were in full view 397 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: in the fall of nineteen ninety three when the double 398 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: bill to surpass all double bills was presented, a joint 399 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: Pearl Jam and Neil Young gig. For those who attended 400 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: the show, there simply is nothing more Pacific Northwest than 401 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: seeing Pearl Jam, Seattle's dedicated sons play the Gorge. Same 402 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: goes for the Dave Matthews Band, who has turned the 403 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: venue into their home base. But there's something to be 404 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 1: said about the connection between Neil and Eddie in the 405 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: passing of the torch that seemed inevitable. Between the rebellious 406 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: counterculture classic rockers and the era of grunge or whatever 407 00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: you want to. 408 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 4: Call it, they were skipping straight over the eighties. 409 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: It was the bands of the nineties who took it 410 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: up again with art for art's sake, in a refusal 411 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: to be run into the ground by the plutocratic, capitalistic 412 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: technology that wanted to milk whatever dollars it could out 413 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: of the music pearl jams pressing a fight with Ticketmaster 414 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: long before the rest of us, including Taylor Swift, got 415 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: wise to it. Their decision to stop making music videos 416 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: and not slot neatly into the MTV model. It'd be 417 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: like Ed Sheeran not doing social media anymore, and Neil 418 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: Young who made an album just to connect with his 419 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: disabled son, or his recent abandonment of Spotify, or his 420 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: own failed attempt by creating an MP three player that 421 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: would play hi Res music rip pono. The connection is 422 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: the real value in the music, as it is in life. 423 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: These decisions by the artists insisting something else is more 424 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: important than marketing, that the way audiences consumed art actually mattered. 425 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: More than making money anyway. 426 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Probably none of this was obvious when the bands shared 427 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: the stage in Washington that night. 428 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: Or maybe it was either way. 429 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: If Pearl Jim ever plays the Gorge again, you should 430 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: suck up the ticket fees and absolutely plan a trip 431 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: around that no questions asked. We haven't talked about Ballard yet, 432 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: which is a real shame because it might just be 433 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: the neighborhood where you end up spending the bulk of 434 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: your time if you're a music lover. Ballard the home 435 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: of the beloved Tractor Tavern, a two room venue where 436 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: I like to make my stops and underground favorites like 437 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: the Damn Wells would hold court, and right across the 438 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: street lies connor Burn Pub, the venue almost single handedly 439 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: responsible for the discovery of The Head and the Heart. 440 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: I recommend both, but if you only have time to choose, 441 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: one step through the double doors at connor Burn, another 442 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: of the oldest bars in the city, and soak up 443 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: the room where a vanguard of New Seattle found their way. 444 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: Connecting and honing their craft at the regular open mic 445 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: night at Connorburn led to the Head and the Heart, 446 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: eventually getting a record deal with sub Pop and then 447 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: receiving international acclaim from that debut album. If you've ever 448 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: been to an open mic, then you know not all 449 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: of them end that way. Good beer and whiskey might 450 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: even be necessary to get through some of them. Luckily, 451 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Burns has got plenty of both of those on offer. 452 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: If you want to get a real locals experience, then 453 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: this pub is the spot. There's almost nothing more Seattle 454 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: than the seaside neighborhood of ballad as all mug of 455 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: beer and an undiscovered guitars trying to get the attention 456 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: of the room. It might be the next icon, or 457 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: it might just be a nobody that happens to be 458 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: the somebody you need to hear to prep for your 459 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: trip to Seattle. There are actually countless docks out there 460 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: on various bands and subsets of grunge, but one of 461 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: the best is the Hype documentary that came out in 462 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six. Because it was made when grunge and 463 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: was still grunging, this doc gives a very unique look 464 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: at what was happening at the time and how the 465 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: members of the still emerging scene actually felt about all 466 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: of it. To name just a few appearances, Mark Arm 467 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: of Mud Honey, Jeffament of Pearl, Jam Nils Burn's scene 468 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: of Subpop, Matt Cameron of Soundgarden later Pearl Jam, and 469 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: plenty of archival footage of Kurt Cobain. This two hour 470 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: film is worth taking in before trip out to Seattle. 471 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: If you do plan to go to a short The 472 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: Gorge and you're a diehard Pearl Jam fan or Dave 473 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: Matthews band fan, then it might be worth it to 474 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: watch Enormous The Gorge Story. It's a brief one hour 475 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: documentary on the history of the venue, and it very 476 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: prominently features Pearl Jam in Matthews not in a film 477 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: viewing mood. Log into your streaming service of choice and 478 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: scroll back to the archives of sub pop's late eighties 479 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: and early nineties releases. 480 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Work your way through. 481 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: Some of the more seminal grunge releases to get into 482 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: the PMW spirit and maybe even pick up a new 483 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: favorite along the way. If Mud Honey taught us anything 484 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: it's that some of the best bands don't always rise 485 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: to the top. Sometimes they stay mired and local legend, 486 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: only to be discovered by those who really put in 487 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: the time to find the gold that is there. Mud 488 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: Honey is and was the best representative of what came 489 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: to be known as a Seattle sound, but never really 490 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: got credit for paving the way, same as it ever 491 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: was right the first through the gates are met with 492 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: the most resistance, They clear a path, and then others 493 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: can ride on that path. 494 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: A little easier. 495 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: The stories we tell ourselves with art overall can provide 496 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: more influence on the popularity of the work than the 497 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: work itself. Every true artist has a story, a point 498 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: of view. When the mechanics of art commerce find an 499 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to market that story, it doesn't matter if it's 500 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: grunge or k pop. If those stories can be juiced 501 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: up to tell more of something than they will find 502 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: a vein. Maybe grunge was just the story the world 503 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: was ready to adopt. The first Gulf War, Reagan economics 504 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: falling apart, Rodney King, the children of Boomer is wondering 505 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: where the hell all that peace and love went. The 506 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: real world is always waiting to rain down on us. 507 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: No matter how much hairspray we used in the decade prior, 508 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: the music that comes out of Seattle sticks around. It's authentic. Now. 509 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: Every day we see diatribes about artistic authenticity fly by 510 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: us under our thumbs and adorable memes on ig and TikTok, 511 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: find your true self with gardening right for the sake 512 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: of writing, dance like nobody's watching, Sing for your soul, 513 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: paint only what. 514 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: You can see, and on and on. But that shit 515 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: is easy. 516 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: The biggest band in the world telling MTV they are 517 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: no longer doing videos because the music is more important, 518 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: is true inspiration and example setting. But all the artists 519 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: out of Seattle, from Jimmy to Brandy Tenttole, is that 520 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: this life is better. 521 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: When you share your true vision. 522 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: The distorted pop masterpieces of Cobaine's Gems Vetter, Sincere Howell, 523 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: Cornell's Banshee Whale Over Grooving seven eight bars. These were 524 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: artists that didn't create a brand. They put their whole 525 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: selves on the line. Some paid for it with everything 526 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: while breaking down the artifice of an industry that was 527 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: just starting to swallow itself whole. Their resistance to the 528 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: behaviors of the industry was wildly prescient, because that version 529 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: of the music business has indeed devoured itself whole, not 530 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: before birthing the next version, which has grown up, consisting 531 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: of algorithms, bullshit playlists in AI that once again rob 532 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: us of our connection, so we find ourselves currently begging 533 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: a new class of artists to rage and whale against it. 534 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: And one more thing, I guess you can't do apisode 535 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: about Seattle with the focus being grunge music and not 536 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: mention all those that are no longer with us for 537 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: many bearing your soul and then others being employed by 538 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: that exposure that you are sharing with the world can 539 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: be a very, very risky proposition. Add to the fact 540 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: that there's now millions of people out there who have 541 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: a connection to you, who think they know you. They've 542 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: been sold a story, a genre, a flannel, two situations 543 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: that I can leave you feeling even more alone than 544 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: you started. And then never mind the fact that sometimes 545 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: a dead artist is worth more. Everyone gets to tell 546 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: your story again and make another dollar, only now you 547 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: have no voice in the matter. And we see this 548 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: all the time. Elvis in a state that will forever 549 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: make millions, Prince no one wanted to tell him to 550 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: stop working, take care of his body. In his mind. 551 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Now Paisley Parker is worth a lot more than when 552 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: he was alive. Michael Jackson, Tom Petty, the list goes on, 553 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: and then we get to encase them in these futures 554 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: they don't get to have and over analyze albums that 555 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: didn't get to happen, and if they did, wouldn't have 556 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: happened in the way you or I dreamed. That's why 557 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: we love those artists. Remember Jimmy didn't pass through the eighties? 558 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Do you love every sixties and seventies act that passed 559 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: through the eighties. Kurt Cobain didn't live through Brittany and Christina. 560 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: He might have changed his whole sound once he heard that. 561 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: You don't know, but yet we all pretend we do. 562 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but maybe Rolling Stone, instead of 563 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: ranking the one hundred greatest records of all time, could 564 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: make a list of ways that we could all keep 565 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: an eye on each other better, celebrate the times we've 566 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: asked for help and received it and are here today 567 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: because of it. 568 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: Make that list next. 569 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: Well, we did it, episode nine, season two. 570 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: That was Seattle. 571 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone who's followed the show, and an 572 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: extra special thanks to those who have reviewed it. That 573 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: is how we even got to Seattle is your word of. 574 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: Mouth, your effort with the show. 575 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you keep it coming. 576 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the nice messages about it. Let 577 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: me know where you want us to go next. DM 578 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: me on just wherever, wherever you feel comfortable on social media. 579 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: I'll find it one day, so you can hit me 580 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: up on Instagram. Will Daily Official just spelled Daily dai 581 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: l e y, and we'll talk. Sound of Our Town 582 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: is a production of Double Elvis and iHeartRadio. 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This episode's head 592 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,239 Speaker 1: writer Kaitlin White, all right, well, I'm off to the 593 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: next town. 594 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: Find out what that is soon. Thank you for your ears, 595 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: and be good to each other out there.