1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: you as well today. So nice to have you with 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: a senator. I know you're really excited about this idea 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: that was put out there a couple of days ago 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: entitled in the Atlantic, let's declare a pandemic amnesty and 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: let's focus on the future and fix the problems that 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: we still need to solve. I'm not buying it. I'm 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: not going forward. Maybe you want to do this, but 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: I say I have two words in response, Hell no. 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Look that this is, you know, a leftist writing this 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: article saying, let's just forgive and forget everything that happened 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: on COVID. It's all okay now. And it actually that article, 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: in turn, was then tweeted out by Randy Weingarten, who 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: is the you know, the head of one of the 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: big teachers unions, and she said, I agree, we ought 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: to have a COVID amnesty. And they basically what she's 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: saying is okay, Look, my policies were an absolute disaster. 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: They hurt tens of millions of kids. Because I was 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: a shameless partisan hack, I got Democrats and the Biden 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: White House to support school closures for over a year. 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: We now have national reading scores. We now have national 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: writing or math scores that our kids scores have plummeted 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: because Democrats shut down schools, because the teachers Union and 24 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Randy Weingarten in particular pushed it. We also know that 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: the racial gap, the gap and test scores between black 26 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: kids and white kids grew by the largest amount in 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: the last year of any time in history. All of 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: that was predictable, And it wasn't just predictable, it was predicted. 29 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: Many of us, myself included, were screaming from the mountaintops 30 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: when this was happening last year. In the middle of 31 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: the school shutdowns, I forced vote after vote after vote 32 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: to try to stop it. I forced to vote on 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: the Senate floor to cut off new funds to schools 34 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: if they were still shut down. Every single Democrat voted no. 35 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Just a couple of months ago, I forced to vote 36 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: on the Senate floor to stop the District of Columbia 37 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: schools from enforcing a COVID vaccine mandate, which would result 38 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: in throwing out of school twenty percent of the kids 39 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: and forty percent of the African American kids. Once again, 40 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: every Democrat voted no after two years of unbelievably abusive 41 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: policies and abusive policies running the gamut from shutdowns that 42 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: destroyed stores and small businesses and jobs to people being 43 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: fired for making their own choices about whether or not 44 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: to take the COVID vaccine, to shutting down schools and 45 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: damaging kids in all likelihood for the rest of their 46 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: lives with the educational loss that was inflicted. These democrats 47 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: now want everyone just forgive and forget. Never mind they 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: ignored welfare. I don't think anyone's willing to do so. 49 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: And we've talked about why this election is going to 50 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: be such a big red wave. This is a big 51 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: part of it. People are furious. People who are not 52 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: engaged in politics are furious about the policies these petty 53 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: tyrants put in place that hurt them, and the idea 54 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: that there should be no accountability that is absolutely wrong. 55 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: When we take the majority, there needs to be real accountability. 56 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't want a COVID amnesty. I want everyone who 57 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: hurt people and did so because of politics, I want 58 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: them to be held accountable for those decisions. You know, 59 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: there's some decision, Senator that obviously we should learn from, right, 60 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: mistakes that were genuine mistakes early on in the pandemic 61 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: that we would learn from. But as you mentioned, many 62 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: of the mistakes that were made were one hundred percent 63 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: a political decision where people got drunk on power. People 64 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: decided that their lives and their livelihoods they should get 65 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: paid from working from home. They didn't want to educate kids. 66 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: They didn't look at the harm they were doing to children. 67 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: And that's the part we should never say, you know, 68 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: let's just hit pause and move on from We need 69 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: to make sure there's accountability so that never happens again. 70 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: Because even right now, we have seen Democratic candidates running 71 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: in different parts of country over the last week who 72 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: have said they would even remask children. This happened in 73 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Florida recently. One of the Democrats said, Hey, I will 74 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: listen to the scientists. They tell me to remask the 75 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: kids in the schools, I'll do it. Well. One of 76 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: the things we learned is that many of our institutions 77 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: have become hopelessly politicized and rendered corrupt. You know, you 78 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: look at someone like Anthony Fauci, who has described self says, 79 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: I am science, I am body science. When people are 80 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: criticizing me, they are criticizing science. That number one, delusional 81 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: grandeur is really bizarre. But number two, I don't know 82 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: of an individual in modern times who has done more 83 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: to lessen the credibility of scientists and doctors and the 84 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: medical institutions that out anthy Fauci because he deliberately said 85 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: things he knew were lies, and he's admitted he knew 86 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: they were lies. He said, at first, mass don't work. 87 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: Then he said, you gotta use him, and he went 88 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: back and forth and back and forth. He insisted, No, 89 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: the COVID virus was not did not escape from the 90 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Wuhan Institute of Virology. It did not escape from the lab. 91 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: It was not man made. Then oh well maybe it did. No, 92 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: the US government did not fund gain a function research 93 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: that may well have created did the COVID virus in 94 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: that Chinese lab? Then the NIH puts out, well, yes, 95 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: we actually did fund that research. The repeated lies and 96 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: also the correspondence that has come out between the Biden 97 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: administration and the teachers unions where the teachers unions were 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: the ones who drove the school shutdown. It wasn't based 99 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: on studies about infection and kids. It wasn't based on 100 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: on fatality rates, which we know that that the COVID 101 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: virus was much much, much less serious among kids that 102 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: it was with the very elderlier people with severe additional 103 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: health issues. It wasn't science at all. It was a 104 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: political decision, and I got to say, going forward, we're 105 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: going to need to talk about you know, we will 106 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: have some other health crisis at some point in our lifetimes, 107 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: and it could be, you know, last time it was COVID, 108 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: maybe next time it's you know, God forbid, something like 109 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: a bowl or something something that you know, really horrific 110 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: our institutions now, I don't know what the answer is 111 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: how you actually get an institution to focus on science 112 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: once it's been politicized, and I think the damage that 113 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: was done it may be permanent. 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I 145 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: want you to listen to and this is just a 146 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: reminder of how Faucci wanted to divide this country into 147 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: two groups of people. This was last Christmas. He said this. 148 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: If someone in your family isn't vaccinated, she asked them 149 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: not to show up. Oh yes, I would do that. 150 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're dealing with a serious enough 151 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: situation right now that if there's an unvaccinated person, I 152 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: would say I'm very sorry. But not this time. Maybe 153 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: another time when this is all over. Centator. That wasn't 154 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: based in science. That was based in dividing this country 155 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: into two groups of people. You're either with us and 156 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: a vaccinated individual that is indoctrinated by the government, or 157 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: you're an outcast in an outlier in society where you're 158 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: not welcome. Yeah. Look, these people got drunk on power, 159 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: and Fauci was the drunkest of all, and it was 160 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: whatever he decreed. Now, mind you, we also saw the 161 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: videos of him going to the Nationals game and happily 162 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: taking his mask off right when he was ordering everyone else, 163 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: you must where you're ask at all times. Listen that 164 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: the hypocrisy Senate Democrats, routinely behind closed doors when they 165 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: were insisting everyone must be masks to show their virtue, 166 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: would take their masks off and they would yuck it up, 167 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: and it was no big deal, you know. I remember, 168 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: I remember going to Bob Dole's funeral, and Bob Doo's 169 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: funeral was in the National Cathedral in DC, and I 170 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: went and I was sitting with other senators and I 171 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: didn't wear my mask because I was idiotic, It was stupid, 172 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: and I was one of very very few people who 173 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: didn't wear their masks. All the other senators, all the 174 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: d's were ostentatiously wearing their masks, and sadly, most of 175 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: the Republicans were wearing masks as well. And the corporate 176 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: media had a field day saying, you know, Cruiz is 177 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: endangering the lives of his fellow senators, how dare he 178 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: do this? Now here's the ridiculous part. Ben the senators 179 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: all rode to that funeral in a bus together. We 180 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: rowed back in a bus together, in the bus. Everyone 181 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: took their mask off, one hundred percent, Every Democrat, every Republican, nobody, 182 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: not a person had their mask on in the bus. 183 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: When the bus arrives and their TV cameras suddenly, the 184 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: senators all dutifully put on their mask, and I'm like, 185 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There is no science that justifies that it 186 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: is more dangerous in a cathedral where the roof is 187 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: seventy feet high than it is in a closed in 188 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: bus where I'm sitting next to senators Democrats with no mask. 189 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: But once a TV cameras there, then the virtue is strong. 190 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: This was always about power. There's a question that I 191 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: get asked a lot on the road, and I'm sure 192 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: you've gotten asked this question a lot. How is it 193 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: the doctor Fauci and I believe based in facts that 194 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: he has clearly lied under oath before Congress on going 195 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: to a function research on Wuhan Lab on different issues 196 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: like you just mentioned with masking. Some of your colleagues 197 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: have gone after him at Centator Paul really hard and 198 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: believe that he flat out lied to them. Number one, 199 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: do you believe that he lied? And number two, why 200 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: is it if he did lie? There's no accountability for lying, 201 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: especially when your highest paid member of the United States government, 202 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: he makes more than the president of nine States of 203 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: America does. There is no accountability because this Biden administration 204 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: is fundamentally corrupt and partisan and political. I have repeatedly 205 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: called on the Department of Justice to appoint a special 206 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: prosecutor to investigate Anthony Fauci for lying under oath to Congress. 207 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: He came in and he testified flat out that the 208 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: federal government did not fund gain a function research in 209 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: the Wuhunt Institute for Virology, and subsequently the NIH admitted 210 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: in writing, yes, it did fund gain a function research 211 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: at the Wuhunt Institute of Virology. The two statements are 212 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty degrees contradictory, and it is a felony, 213 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: a federal offense to lie under oath. I will say, 214 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: much to my great frustration, I've never had the opportunity 215 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: to question doctor Fauci because none of the committees I 216 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: sit on, chaired by Democrats, have ever called him in. 217 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: They don't want him in. So you're right. Rand has 218 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: had some great back and forth because he's on the 219 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Health Committee, and that's the only committee it testifies before 220 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: I very much hope when we have majorities, I hope 221 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: that he comes before the Judiciary Committee. I hope he 222 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: comes before the Commerce Committee. And he needs to testify 223 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: under oath, and I believe he should be investigated, and 224 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: unless there is an explanation that is not evident on 225 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: the face of the words, he should be prosecuted for 226 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: lying under oath to Congress and to the American people vicariously. 227 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: And I want to be clear. This is one of 228 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: the things that I think we need to be very 229 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: very clear about. We're not asking for political revenge. We're 230 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: asking for accountability for actually breaking the law. And that's 231 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: the difference between Republicans and Democrats, especially when they're in power. 232 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: As Democrats abuse their power and want to lock up 233 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: anybody that was connected to Donald Trump on lies of 234 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Russian collusion. All we're saying is there are laws. When 235 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: you raise your right hand, you know that you're under oath, 236 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: you say you're going to tell the truth, and when 237 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: you deliberately lie to the United States government and to Congress, 238 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: there should be accountability for that well. And there's a 239 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: reason that it is a felony, a federal criminal offense 240 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: to lie under oath to Congress, because when Congress is 241 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: having a hearing, it's not just senators asking questions because 242 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: we're kind of curious about some stuff. We are doing 243 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: so in our constitutional capacity of representing our constituents and 244 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: asking on behalf of our constituents. And particularly, Look, it's 245 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: one thing if someone says something by mistake. If you 246 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: say something by mistake, that's not a crime. Making an 247 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: error is not a felony. And it's it's even another 248 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: thing if someone says something that is wrong, but it's 249 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: a matter that is not of terribly high consequence. In 250 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: this instance, the matter on which it appears that Fauci 251 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: lied is incredibly consequential. I hope and believe when we 252 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: have Republican majorities, I want multiple hearings on the origins 253 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: of the COVID virus, where this came from, what the 254 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: culpability of the Chinese Communist government was. I'll tell you 255 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: this podcast, the Verdict podcast early on, right at the 256 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: beginning of this pandemic, back in like March and April, 257 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: when things got started, we did multiple podcasts laying out 258 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: the evidence that this had escaped, this virus had escaped 259 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: from the COVID Institute of Virology. It was at a 260 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: time when social media was banning anyone who dared say 261 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: such a thing. I don't know how this podcast ended 262 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: up escaping that censorship, but this was one of the 263 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: very few places where you could get that information. Now, 264 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: subsequently we learned that not only was that research going on, 265 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: but that the US government was actively funding it. And 266 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: gain a function research where you take a dangerous virus 267 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and you go in and you genetically manipulate it to 268 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: make it more infectious, to make it more deadly, to 269 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: alter it, to make it a hell of a lot 270 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: more dangerous. Well, that research is by its nature incredibly dangerous, 271 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:39,119 Speaker 1: and if Fauci chose to deliberately lie, he was concealing 272 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: it from the American people, the culpability that he personally 273 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: might have had in the creation of COVID nineteen. Now, 274 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: in discussing this, I've several times said potentially, and maybe, 275 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: because for it to be a criminal offense, he has 276 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: a chance to explain it himself. I'm not a scientist, 277 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: so maybe there is some ex planation he can marshal. 278 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: But on the face of it, the statements are blatantly contradictory. 279 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: And the ridiculous thing is Merrick Garland in this Department 280 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: of Justice simply won't enforce the law. They don't care 281 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: at all. And by the way, I will say Fauci 282 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: did enormous damage under Biden. But let me let's be clear, 283 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Fauci should have been fired in the Trump administration. And 284 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: it was a mistake of the Trump administration not to 285 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: fire Fauci early on because he very quickly began abusing 286 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: his power and the media elevated him. I understand why 287 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: they didn't because the pandemic media crucified him, right, I mean, 288 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: the real reason why Trump didn't fire him is because 289 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: his advisors saw that the media would absolutely destroy Donald 290 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Trump and it would ruin his chances of a reelect 291 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: to be honest, because they would say, this is how 292 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: psycho he is. He fires the guy that's been there 293 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: for as long, you know, as long as anybody's been watching, 294 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: and he's so trusted by the world, How on earth 295 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: could you possibly get rid of him? Well, and I'm 296 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: sure that was the reasoning, and there's some force to that. 297 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: The media would have done that now I would say 298 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: they're doing that anyway, and removing him from having the 299 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: power to inflict harm on millions of Americans would have 300 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: been the right thing to do. But I think there 301 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: needs to be accountability, whether accountability for Fauci, whether accountability 302 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: for the teachers unions, whether accountability for the military that 303 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: fired soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines who declined 304 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: to get the COVID vaccine. Accountability for the Biden administration. 305 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: These Democrats want to escape accountability for the decisions they 306 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: made that were knowingly inflicting harm and that they did 307 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: so for purely political and partisan reasons. You mentioned a 308 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: moment ago about you talking about the Wuhan lab and 309 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: how did it not get silence or since by big tech. 310 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: There's been a bombshell story and I want everybody that's 311 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: listening right now to verdict. Please share this podcast with 312 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: your family and friends. Hit that subscribe or auto download 313 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: button so you get our show three days a week. 314 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: This is going to be huge. This bombshell report that 315 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: came out Center is showing that Twitter and Facebook not 316 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: only did they have regular meetings with the Department of 317 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: Homeland Security to discuss censorship, but the Intercept is now 318 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: reporting that according to a draft copy of the Department 319 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: of Homeland Securities review the DHS's Capstone Report, outlining the 320 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: department's strategy and priorities in the coming years. Had this 321 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: listed the department plans to target quote inaccurate information on 322 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: a wide range of topics, including the origins of the 323 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic and the efficiency of the COVID nineteen vaccines, 324 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: also racial justice, the US withdraw from Afghanistan, and the 325 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: nature of the US support to Ukraine. Translation, the Department 326 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security basically said, what are the bigness weaknesses 327 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party going into the midterm elections? During 328 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: the next presidential election, we will go out there to Facebook, 329 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: into any other big tech company and will tell them 330 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: to silence these stories that make the Democrats look bad 331 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: in our tax dollars. Apparently have been used to do 332 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: this now for years, dating all the way back to 333 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. This office needs to be shuttered. 334 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: The people in charge of it need to be fired. 335 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: The Department of Homeland Security is badly, badly off the 336 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: rails if they believe their job is censoring Americans to 337 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: prevent them from criticizing the government. The last I checked, 338 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: we haven't stepped into George Orwell's nineteen eighty four yet. 339 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: But if these guys have any say in it, that's 340 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: where they want us to go. It is not a 341 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: thought crime to disagree with the Biden White House. You know, 342 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Biden was going to nominate this looney woman I don't 343 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: remember her name anymore, the one who was like sang 344 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: all the time and was this hardcore partisan, was going 345 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: to be in charge of this Office of Disinformation and 346 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: empowered to silence you and me and anyone else that 347 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: she disagreed with. She was such a loon that they 348 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: actually backed off and decided not to appoint her. But 349 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: the fact that this was institutionalized, that this was set 350 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: up as a regular portal for government officials to go 351 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: to big Tech and say, silence this, silence this, silence 352 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: this silence, This is incredibly dangerous. This is nowhere in 353 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: DHS's actual job funk of protecting our safety and security 354 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: from terror attacks. And interestingly enough, Ben, this also intersects 355 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: with a topic we discussed over a year ago on 356 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: this podcast as well, which is, as you know, Donald 357 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: Trump filed a lawsuit against Big Tech alleging that its 358 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: censorship violates the First Amendment. Now, the challenge with that 359 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: lawsuit is the First Amendment does not apply to non 360 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: governmental entity. So the First Amendment begins with Congress will 361 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: make no law in the First Amendment applies to censorship 362 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: by the federal government or through a doctrine called incorporation 363 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: by the state or local government. But a private company 364 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: is not the government. There is, however, a Supreme Court 365 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: doctrine that has extended that that says a private entity 366 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: can be liable for a violation of the First Amendment 367 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: if it is acting as an instrumentality of the government, 368 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: in other words, if it is acting at the behest 369 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: of the government, if it is acting if it is 370 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: the means by which the government is exercising its censorship powers. 371 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: And what we talked about on the podcast well over 372 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: a year ago was the email exchanges that came out 373 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: between doctor Fauci and Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO and owner 374 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: of Facebook at the time, where Fauci was asking Zuckerberg 375 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: to take things down from Facebook and to block them, 376 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: and it actually it's the same topics we're talking about. 377 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: One of the things that he was asking Facebook to 378 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: take down was discussions about the origins of COVID nineteen. 379 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: So not only was he not furthering the interest of 380 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: science of knowing where in fact this disease came from, 381 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: he was actively stifling science, fighting science, saying no, we 382 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: don't want any discussions of that. And Zuckerberg saluted and said, sir, yes, sir, 383 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: happy to help. And I noted on this podcast over 384 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: a year ago that that email exchange made Trump's lawsuit 385 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: much much stronger and would feed centrally into the argument 386 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: that Facebook was acting as an instrumentality of the government. 387 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: We subsequently learned that the FBI requested a Facebook and 388 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: Twitter that they block stories about Hunter Biden's laptop right 389 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: before the election. Again that that was done at the 390 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: behest of the government government censorship. We now know those 391 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: stories were true. So you literally had big tech censoring 392 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: and silencing true stories that were politically harmful and inconvenient 393 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: to the Democrats at the behest of the deep state. 394 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: And now this latest piece band that you just referred to, 395 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: which is this process was institutionalized with a formal portal 396 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: and a much broader ambit where some of the stuff 397 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: like now you know, disagreeing with Joe Biden and the 398 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: Democrats on Ukraine. Now that is subject to censorship at 399 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: the requests of the government. Disagreeing with the catastrophe of 400 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan and surrender to the Taliban, Now 401 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: apparently that is subject to censorship. This is it. You're right, 402 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: This is a big, big story. It is a topic 403 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I can promise you when we have majorities next year, 404 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: will be front and center for congressional hearings. And if 405 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: there was one Democrat in Congress who gives a flip 406 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: about free speech, he or she ought to be outraged 407 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: at this. And sadly, my prediction is that democrat doesn't exist, 408 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: at least doesn't exist in the United States Senate. No 409 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: Democrat anymore in the Senate cares one wit about the 410 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: threat to free speech from government censorship. You know, even 411 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: getting rid of the Senator, the lady you're supposed to 412 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: be that, you know, the distant from nation chief, right, 413 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: the the decider of what is real and what is 414 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: not in the US government. Obviously we finally got rid 415 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: of her, but behind the scenes, this is clearly still 416 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: going on. And from this new report it says, quote, 417 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: there is a formalized process now and it's been there 418 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: apparently for years for government officials to directly flag content 419 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: on Facebook or Instagram and request that it be throttled 420 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: or suppressed through a special Facebook portal portal that requires 421 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: a government or law enforcement email to use. At the 422 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: time of writing, the content request system at Facebook was 423 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: still live. DHS and Meta, who the new name of Facebook, 424 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: did not respond to request for comment, and the FBI 425 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: has also declined to comment on this because they're the 426 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: ones that basically asked to be setting it up. But well, 427 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: we do know is in a March meeting an FBI 428 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: official warrant that the threat of subversive information on social 429 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: media could mind support for the US government. Therefore they 430 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: need to have this there Something else that's very weird 431 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: and I want to get your take on this is 432 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: at this meeting that happen in March, with this FBI 433 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: officials warning of this threat of this information right the 434 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: submersive information that could quote undermine support for the US government. 435 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: In attendance, we're senior executives Center from not only Twitter, 436 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: but also JP Morgan Chase. Why would a financial institution 437 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: like JP Morgan Chase be in on this type of 438 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: meeting that scares the hell out of I think of 439 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the people that have bank accounts with 440 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: JP Morgan Chase or financial accounts with them. Well, we 441 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: are unfortunately seeing corporate America more and more becoming the 442 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: enforcers for the woke left. And we're seeing that with 443 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: the Fortune one hundred. We're seeing that with big banks 444 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: where they're trying to cut off customers that they disagree 445 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: with their politics, whether they happen to be a gun 446 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: store and supporting our Second Amendment rights, or whether they 447 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: happen to have political views that are out of favor 448 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: with the current White House. And I think the left 449 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: is all about power and using power to extort to 450 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: force you to comply, and I will say it is 451 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: deeply concerning. Look, when we talk about energy, Wall Street 452 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: plays a big part in cutting off the cash for 453 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: US energy production, and they do so at the active 454 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: urging and at the behest of the Biden administration, whether 455 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: it's the banking regulators or the SEC. We're seeing these 456 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: green New Deal radicals trying to cut off all the 457 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: debt they can and all the equity they can for 458 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: new oil and gas production. They're doing this on multiple fronts, 459 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: because if they can't get it through legislation, they're willing 460 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: to use power and power over your livelihood, power over 461 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: your ability to earn revenue if it's demonetizing a tech platform, 462 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: or power over your ability to to have banking services, 463 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: and all of that I think is a complete abuse 464 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: of power. Ever since you went on the View, they 465 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: seem to have really been unhinged by your appearance, Senator, 466 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: and now Sunny hosting on the View has said something 467 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: today that I think is racist. I think it's disgusting. 468 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: She equated white suburban women Republican voters as roaches. I 469 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: want to play this for everybody. This was a real 470 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: conversation on the View Republicans. But what's also surprising to 471 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: me is the abortion issue. I read a poll just 472 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: yesterday that white Republican suburban women are now going to 473 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: vote Republican. Why it's almost like roaches voting for raid, right, 474 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: it's their own okay, so we democracy or not? Because 475 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: just saying that it's it's insulting to the voter. People 476 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: make up decisions on what's white for their family, and 477 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: the idea that well you should have a save I 478 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: mean Senator. When you equate white Republican suburban women voters 479 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: as roaches voting for raid, not only I think is 480 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: at a bigger and racist statement, but the fact that 481 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: it's still not been condemned by anybody on ABC or 482 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: the View. Uh, this was even a new low for them. Well, 483 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: I guess it's the new war on women. Um, look 484 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: the View. They are all rich, they are all hard leftists, 485 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: and they are utterly out of touch with people in 486 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: this country. Sonny unfortunately says nasty, offensive, insulting things on 487 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: a day basis. But if you look at this comment, 488 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: so she's saying, all right, if you're a woman, you're 489 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: not allowed to be concerned about inflation, that you can't 490 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: afford to put food on the table anymore, you can't 491 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: afford to fill your car or your truck or your minivan, 492 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: you can't afford to pay your bills. You're not allowed 493 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: to be concerned about crime, even though you and your 494 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: family are at greater risk and you're seeing outside your 495 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: door perhaps crime rates going up and up and up. 496 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to be worried about that. You're not 497 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: allowed to be worried about nearly five million illegal immigrants 498 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: in under Joe Biden coming in and over one hundred 499 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: thousand ft and all overdoses. Nope, Nope, you're not a woman. 500 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: If you're worried about the people your kid's dying of 501 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: a drug overdose, that's your woman card is revoked. According 502 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: to Sonny and the elite leftist, the only thing you 503 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: were allowed to care about if you're a woman, according 504 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: to the view, is you must be an abortion maximalist. 505 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: You must believe that abortion should be legal in every instance, 506 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: no matter what, up until the ninth month of pregnancy. 507 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: Anything else be damned, and that has to be the 508 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: only thing you care about them that Look, there's a 509 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: reason why across the country we talked about on the 510 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: last podcast that suburban women had moved twenty six points 511 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: away from Democrats and towards Republicans because the policies coming 512 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: from Democrats are hurting suburban women, they're hurting suburban men, 513 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: they're hurting they're hurting just about everybody. And the approach 514 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: of the Democrats is not, oh yeah, I can see 515 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: how not being able to pay your bills and provide 516 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: for your family and keep your kids safe would be 517 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: a problem. Maybe we should do something about it. No, 518 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: what do they do. They insult you. You're a cockroach. 519 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: That's their answer. You're a cockroach unless you obey us. Now, 520 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: look personally, I think the Democratic National Committee how to 521 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: take Sonny's comments and pay to run them on every 522 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: TV station in America, because I think that's really a 523 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: great political strategy. Just call the voters you want to get, 524 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: called them all cockroaches, and that they'll clearly understand that 525 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: you have their best interest in mind and vote to 526 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: keep you in power. For that, you know, It's it's amazing. 527 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: I think how bad the closing argument has been for Democrats. 528 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: You saw the President give his speech in prime time. 529 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: This was something that obviously was very important to the president, 530 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: and they said to come out and kind of give 531 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: this closing argument. There were a lot of lies in 532 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: that closing argument, and make no mistake about it, him 533 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: claiming that the deficits drastically down him claiming that people 534 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: were better off now than they ever were before. But 535 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: even Biden's chiefest staff Ron Klain, said that that Biden 536 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: his speech last night was quote a final warning. Take 537 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: a listen. The President decided a few days ago that 538 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: it was important to issue one final warning on this issue, 539 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: to make very clear, to leave no doubt that we 540 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: have people out there still peddling the big lie people 541 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: now raising the issue of election denial in this election. 542 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still going back to January sixth, Obviously, 543 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: he's still going back to election deniers, denial and trying 544 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: to make the entire election about something from several years ago. 545 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: This was a terrible closing argument for him, which is 546 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: the reason why I think a massive red wave is coming. 547 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: New Herschel Walker numbers have just come out. Walkers leading 548 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: the Democrat Raphael Warnock now over the fifty percent threshold, 549 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: which is needed. You and I talked about not wanting 550 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: to have a runoff there, which is very important, and 551 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: now look at where we are. Well listen, I will 552 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: say in defense of the Biden White House, they demonstrated 553 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: that they are capable of learning. That they did one 554 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: thing right, which is from their previous speech. This time 555 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: they didn't bathe Biden and red light and have him 556 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: do his oppression of the Emperor Palpatine from from Star Wars. 557 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: So I guess that's an improvement that that that that 558 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: that they you know, avoided, you know, Actually, the Palpatine 559 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: lighting would have been better if they had Kamala Harris 560 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: just laughing in the background. I'm per cackle would have 561 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: made it really frightening. But look for a closing argument. Nationally, 562 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: if you look at the polling, the number one issue 563 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: in the country is inflation. What did Biden say about inflation? 564 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: Not a damn word. The number two issue in the 565 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: country is crime. What did Biden say about crime? Not 566 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: a damn word. The number three issue in the country 567 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: is illegal immigration. What did Biden say about it? Illegal immigration? 568 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: Not a damn word? Instead, what did he do to 569 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: use ron Klain's language, He gave one final warning. Look, 570 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: this is Biden doing the same thing Sonny did, calling 571 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: the voter's cockroaches. And it's a really troubling shift in 572 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: political rhetoric. It is not uncommon for politicians to attack 573 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: each other. Biden attacks me frequently. It's not uncommon. We 574 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised that Biden calls Trump an s ob 575 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: and that Trump calls Biden a sob. That as long 576 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 1: as we've had elections, one candidate has said nasty things 577 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: about the other candidate, that that's to be expected. What 578 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: is new is demonizing the voters. You know the Palpatine 579 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: speech where Biden stood up and said, half of America, 580 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: anyone who voted for Donald Trump, anyone who voted Republican, 581 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: is a semi fascist. Normally, you don't go after the voters. 582 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: You don't attack the voters. You may attack your opponent. 583 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: My opponent's a big jerk. But but it is a 584 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: strange new threshold where the voters are the bad guys. 585 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: And that's what was saying. If you vote, you're a cockroach. 586 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: You're a semi fascist cockroach. You know. Kathy Hawckell, the 587 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: Democrat governor of New York, her comment a couple of 588 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: months ago where she said, if you vote Republican, if 589 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: you vote for Trump, get out of the state. You're 590 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: not a New Yorker. I mean, that's a bizarre statement. 591 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know of Look, I've been actively following politics 592 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: pretty much my entire life. I literally do not know 593 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: of another analog of any elected official telling a big 594 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: chunk of his or her voters get the hell out, 595 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: you do not belong in my state. Listen. I say 596 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: this as a person who is elected to represent thirty 597 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: million Texans. There are a lot of liberal Texans. There 598 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: are a lot of Democrats. There are millions of Democrats 599 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. Thankfully they're more Republicans. But 600 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: I represent both the liberal Democrats in Texas. It's my 601 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: job to represent them. No, that doesn't mean that I 602 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: agree with them on every issue. That's why we have elections. 603 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: I lay out what I believe and the voters can 604 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: decide if they want a representative that follows through on 605 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: those beliefs. But it is my job every day been 606 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: to fight for the rights of the Democrats in Texas. 607 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: Fight for their liberties, fight for their free speech, fight 608 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: for their religious liberty, fight for their safety, fight for 609 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: their security, fight for their ability to educate their kids, 610 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: fight for their ability to be able to get a 611 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: good job. All of that that is my job. I 612 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: cannot imagine saying what the Democrats are saying, which is, 613 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: you people are cockroaches. Get out of the state if 614 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: you don't agree with me, if you don't comply, you 615 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: are otherised. And you know this goes back to doctor Fauci, 616 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: and you're not welcome to come to Thanksgiving your Christmas 617 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: dinner either. Yeah, it is truly shocking that this was 618 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: their closing argument, but it is their closing argument center 619 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: that we'll have one more show before election day. Want 620 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: to let you know we're going to be doing a 621 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: live show on election night, so make sure you plan 622 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: for that. You'll be able to listen to that. It's 623 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: going to be really, really fun. Don't forget to tell 624 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: your family and friends about Verdict. 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