Speaker 1: Are you leaving?
Speaker 2: I you wanta way back home?
Speaker 3: Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim, and give us.
Speaker 4: Time and a termino and gay.
Speaker 5: We want to send you off inside. We wanna welcome
Speaker 5: you back home.
Speaker 3: Tell us all about it.
Speaker 2: We scared?
Speaker 5: Or was it fine?
Speaker 6: Melbourne?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do your need you ride? Ride with Karen and Chris?
Speaker 5: Welcome to Do you need a ride? This is Chris.
Speaker 3: Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgarriff.
Speaker 1: Karen Kilgarriff, I was in your stomping grounds as well
Speaker 1: as our guest today.
Speaker 5: I'm not introducing her. I'm just referring to.
Speaker 3: Our guests, but I don't cue her.
Speaker 1: Early I was in well, I wasn't in Petaluma, but
Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco and Alameda and where they
Speaker 1: have the boats, and I did shows in the Bay.
Speaker 5: Let's just call it the Bay. You know I'm faithful
Speaker 5: to the Bay.
Speaker 3: You always have it. Wait, did you do shows up there?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I wore my uh San Francisco jacket and hat and
Speaker 1: tried to convince the audience. I was local and to
Speaker 1: not know not hassle me only for one show, you
Speaker 1: are right to say no, I didn't do that on
Speaker 1: all the shows.
Speaker 2: Wait, the forty nine ers jacket, that's that a kind
Speaker 2: listener gave.
Speaker 1: You, and I have one for you in a box
Speaker 1: here that I have yet to bring you. Yes, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know we all are bad people in our own ways.
Speaker 3: I'm one of the worst.
Speaker 2: You wore the forty nine or jacket on stage at
Speaker 2: a club in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's one of these loosey goosey shows.
Speaker 2: And did you feel like your jacket brought some structure
Speaker 2: to it?
Speaker 1: It just made me not acknowledge the fact that I
Speaker 1: don't have a good, solid opening joke that I in
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two that isn't about disease and death.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be more lighthearted. And my whole COVID
Speaker 1: set that was doing gangbusters a couple months ago when
Speaker 1: everyone was scared. No one wants to hear about this
Speaker 1: stuff anymore, but I got some pretty good bits holding
Speaker 1: a mirror up to what's been happening out and.
Speaker 2: Pull out the disease now and and replace? Is it
Speaker 2: with what comes next.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I even have some fourth Wave Next variant bits just
Speaker 1: to look toward the future.
Speaker 2: But why not write a bit about that forty nine
Speaker 2: ers jacket that you decided to wear on stage?
Speaker 5: I could.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think wearing it is the best way
Speaker 1: to do that, but it's very warm.
Speaker 2: It is a winter coat that would technically make you
Speaker 2: a prop comic though.
Speaker 3: Did you know that?
Speaker 5: Yes? I know, yes, let us not remember.
Speaker 1: The day is when I wore four wigs and took
Speaker 1: them off one by one.
Speaker 5: Everyone's heard that. I'm sorry to repeat myself.
Speaker 1: I got a request also, Karen, that we never mentioned
Speaker 1: bustles or butt springs from the old timy days ever again.
Speaker 5: Okay, we brought that up too many times.
Speaker 3: People got upset. I got a tweet.
Speaker 5: I got a short curt tweet. No more knock it off?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no more bustle talk. Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Hey, guess what just happened? What we talked about bustles again?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, yeah right, put it up on the scoreboard. I
Speaker 3: didn't know we did it that much.
Speaker 5: We love it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like that you said that started that sentence. Let
Speaker 2: us not remember. I think that's a really good way
Speaker 2: to approach many things, especially a eulogy.
Speaker 3: Should we introduce our guests now.
Speaker 5: I'm very excited about our guests, so we might as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, you know our guests today from clubs and
Speaker 1: colleges of course, multi Writers Guild Award, winning, Emmy nominated,
Speaker 1: then perhaps winning very hilarious stand up comic and friend.
Speaker 3: One of the greats, but really one of the great.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together at home or
Speaker 1: in your office for Emily Heller.
Speaker 6: Wow, wow, thank you. I'm clapping. You have to, oh,
Speaker 6: thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 7: Good.
Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed that it's taken this long. I think that's
Speaker 2: a real discree.
Speaker 7: You know, I kind of I haven't done stand up
Speaker 7: in almost four years, and I'm pretty sure people forgot
Speaker 7: I exist. So I'm not offended or surprised. I'm just
Speaker 7: delighted that someone remembered me.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I knew that maybe you weren't doing stand up as
Speaker 1: often because I know you're a busy writer.
Speaker 6: Yeah I'm not that busy right now, but I am.
Speaker 7: I'm working, but yeah, it has I have shifted my
Speaker 7: focus to that well.
Speaker 1: You do have a quote overall deal. Now have they
Speaker 1: given you any specifics other than that?
Speaker 7: You would be surprised how few specifics they gave me.
Speaker 7: When I got my deal, we had like a kickoff
Speaker 7: call and I was like, so what do I what
Speaker 7: am I supposed to be working on?
Speaker 6: And they're like, just whatever, you're passionate about it.
Speaker 7: I was like, I need ten more specific suggestions were.
Speaker 2: All passion Just send them the catching rain Water in
Speaker 2: your own backyard.
Speaker 3: Pilot that you've always wanted to write.
Speaker 7: I was really just going to talk about rain chains
Speaker 7: and no one's gonna pay me money for it.
Speaker 2: Emily was very passionate on Twitter for a while about well,
Speaker 2: because it was the scariest part of the drought and
Speaker 2: so you were doing some drought like help drought prevention stuff.
Speaker 7: Well, I did the the the quote unquote turf replacement rebate.
Speaker 7: When I say that, people think that I mean I
Speaker 7: put an AstroTurf. What it really means is I just
Speaker 7: got rid of my lawn and put in drought friendly
Speaker 7: landscaping and in order to do and like the city
Speaker 7: paid me square foot.
Speaker 1: Is that enough to buy the It's just a rebate,
Speaker 1: A reason.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean I probably could have broken even if
Speaker 7: I did more of the work myself instead of paying
Speaker 7: people to do it. But I will say I think
Speaker 7: I I think I took.
Speaker 6: Out like I think I got like thirty five hundred
Speaker 6: bucks or something.
Speaker 7: WHOA, that's great, because I think I took out like, yeah,
Speaker 7: like eleven hundred square feet or something. And in order
Speaker 7: to do it, they offer a free class on like
Speaker 7: drought friendly landscaping from the LA Department of Water and Power,
Speaker 7: And it utterly radicalized me about storm water capture in
Speaker 7: southern California.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Wow, it really changed the way I see everything in
Speaker 7: this city. And it made me an absolute zelot about
Speaker 7: making your.
Speaker 6: Whatever you know dirt.
Speaker 7: You're in charge of making it loose and permeable so
Speaker 7: that when it rains, the water goes down through it
Speaker 7: and replenishes our underground aquifers instead of running off your
Speaker 7: property and going into the street where it will just
Speaker 7: carry trash to the ocean and become undrinkable.
Speaker 5: Oh wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So, if anyone wants to talk to me about this,
Speaker 7: I obviously will talk about it more.
Speaker 6: If you don't interrupt, are.
Speaker 1: I will interrupt you with are you a yellow, keep
Speaker 1: it mellow, household, you know what.
Speaker 6: I should be, But I'm not as much as I
Speaker 6: should be.
Speaker 7: And I like to think that the fact that I
Speaker 7: have rain barrels is like counteracting.
Speaker 6: The fact that I try.
Speaker 7: That I flesh more than I need to, and I
Speaker 7: take baths more than I need to. But like, I'm
Speaker 7: also like not watering a lawn anymore. And I have
Speaker 7: like five rain barrels soon to get more, and I
Speaker 7: use them.
Speaker 2: To water are so wide right now, you see joy,
Speaker 2: she is lit up like the fourth of July.
Speaker 6: For boy oh boy. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And it also just every it makes me just mutter
Speaker 7: under my breath, every time I walk by a lawn
Speaker 7: that doesn't need to be there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me.
Speaker 2: Tell you there's especially these days where we've gone through
Speaker 2: serious drought. We had, you know, a little bit of
Speaker 2: a decent amount of rain right last winter, but not
Speaker 2: enough to make up for what is basically we're incurring
Speaker 2: more and more drought.
Speaker 6: When it does rain, we don't capture it.
Speaker 7: We should be capturing it because that's precious, precious water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's true.
Speaker 7: I mean, really, it became it was like I stopped
Speaker 7: doing stand up and just started talking about rain chains
Speaker 7: on the internet.
Speaker 5: I didn't have.
Speaker 6: Enough time to write jokes anymore.
Speaker 7: I just had to think about what you should put
Speaker 7: instead of your gutter, which is a rain chain.
Speaker 3: A rain chain.
Speaker 2: That's They're all over Hawaii. I was just in Hawaiian.
Speaker 2: That's the big thing over there because it rained so
Speaker 2: much over there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and they can't like I mean, do they ever
Speaker 7: have droughts in Hawaii? I imagine probably not. It rains
Speaker 7: so much. Yeah, it's tropical, so it rains all the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they don't have wedding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they don't. They don't have snakes. I just
Speaker 1: have to always say.
Speaker 6: They don't have snakes.
Speaker 1: They have no snakes in Hawaii. What Just like I
Speaker 1: know every time I'm in a you know, because you
Speaker 1: go to Hawaii, you swim around in stagnant water covered
Speaker 1: with floating oranges to then climb up a waterfall. I've
Speaker 1: done a lot of picturesque things. I'm not bragging. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I'm always scared of snakes, and I've never.
Speaker 7: I've never been to Hawaii. I went once when I
Speaker 7: was a baby and I don't remember it and I
Speaker 7: had thrush. But I've never been as an adult, and
Speaker 7: now I want to go and just bring a bunch
Speaker 7: of snakes and just ruin everything.
Speaker 1: I think that somehow they monitor that and that's how
Speaker 1: they've kept snakes out.
Speaker 3: Because of course you have to pay the cartoon.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, villains want to come in with snakes all the time,
Speaker 1: just to mix it up, just to cause terror.
Speaker 3: I have to say, Emily, it's true.
Speaker 2: I go there and I still I don't know if
Speaker 2: I get thrush. But it's not a for like the
Speaker 2: Irish or the more northern northern people. It is. My
Speaker 2: sister and I always look at each other and she's
Speaker 2: always like, like, are the bottoms of our hair will
Speaker 2: curl up all the way to our heads and beat
Speaker 2: and start getting nodded, and everything just gets kind of
Speaker 2: like just being humidity, a sweaty, Yeah, just like a
Speaker 2: lot of sweating. She's like, we're not Hawaii pretty. It's
Speaker 2: just not how we're pretty.
Speaker 7: I will say, like, I've never wanted to. I've never
Speaker 7: wanted to, like do one of those DNA tests things,
Speaker 7: but there is I think the only the most tempted
Speaker 7: I've been is to just wonder, like where am I
Speaker 7: supposed to live, like, what was this body adapted for?
Speaker 7: Because it's definitely not Los Angeles, like I can't I
Speaker 7: can't breathe here, and it's definitely somewhere very very far north,
Speaker 7: I'm sure, but where but where you are?
Speaker 5: You're right.
Speaker 1: The fact that I am and I'm not joking to
Speaker 1: the ocean and the ocean breeze makes me immediately sneeze
Speaker 1: and I have to do my whale dand er joke again.
Speaker 5: I hate that. I think that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely an English person that's supposed to be
Speaker 1: in a cloudy like on a grassy hillside.
Speaker 7: I mean, the name Fairbanks definitely suggests the most British
Speaker 7: of British.
Speaker 1: So you already know more about my name than before
Speaker 1: I did. My forever twenty one or forever twenty one,
Speaker 1: I do not forever. I was born in a shopping mall.
Speaker 2: It'll fall apart three days later. You'll put it in
Speaker 2: the wash and I'll just fall apart. Yeah, I really do, miss.
Speaker 2: I have to say, I think, coming from San Francisco,
Speaker 2: the lack of moisture in southern California is so shocking
Speaker 2: to the system. When you grow up in a place
Speaker 2: that has that much moisture just in the air naturally,
Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, in the summer, it's like
Speaker 2: maybe it'll be ninety and everyone will wear shorts and
Speaker 2: it'll be crazy, but for the most part, it's like
Speaker 2: for seventy years. Yeah, yeah, and that kind of the
Speaker 2: sun's over there and there's moisture in the air, and
Speaker 2: like it just isn't. This is an arid desert climate
Speaker 2: that people actually aren't probably even supposed to live in
Speaker 2: except for specific.
Speaker 7: Natives, and even even they, I think avoided certain areas
Speaker 7: that we have built homes in because they were like, oh,
Speaker 7: that's not inhabitable because that's just where all the pollen goes.
Speaker 7: The pollen just sits there. That's not for people.
Speaker 6: Don't go there.
Speaker 2: Also, the WiFi is bad, so don't. That is not
Speaker 2: where you want to be. Did you start stand up
Speaker 2: in San Francisco?
Speaker 6: Only I did? Wait, yes, I did.
Speaker 7: I took a class in college and see I U
Speaker 7: see Santa Cruz. And then I started doing open mics
Speaker 7: in San Francisco, and I moved to San Francisco and
Speaker 7: I lived there for like three years.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I started there, But yeah, I started in
Speaker 6: San Francisco.
Speaker 7: I was there for three years, so I like did
Speaker 7: the punchline and stuff, and I worked for Rooftop Comedy.
Speaker 6: Do you remember that company?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, that was like my first job out of college.
Speaker 3: What'd you do?
Speaker 6: I mean, I started as an intern and then I
Speaker 6: was just some sort of like vague editorial position. I
Speaker 6: just ended up watching a shitload.
Speaker 7: Of like stand up footage, which was really good because
Speaker 7: then it's like I learned everyone's names.
Speaker 6: Like I learned.
Speaker 7: I think I knew more like feature acts than I
Speaker 7: did headliners by the time I like left, because we
Speaker 7: were just filming everywhere and I would just like watch
Speaker 7: it and select clips to put online. I would just
Speaker 7: like write down the timecodes and be like we should
Speaker 7: put this.
Speaker 6: Clip up and stuff.
Speaker 7: But it made me feel like a creep because when
Speaker 7: I moved to New York, it was like I would
Speaker 7: go to open mics and I would be like, oh,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 5: You knew everyone material?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I knew everyone's material.
Speaker 7: I knew, And I also was that annoying person who
Speaker 7: I was like, Oh, someone in Austin's telling that joke.
Speaker 7: You should that joke anymore. I've never been to Austin,
Speaker 7: so how would I know?
Speaker 5: Great?
Speaker 1: Was I the comic from Austin? Are you trying to
Speaker 1: let me know people are out there pilfering mine?
Speaker 7: Oh no, oh, May may God have mercy on anyone
Speaker 7: who tries to steal your act.
Speaker 6: I can try and do it for themselves. How how
Speaker 6: on her?
Speaker 5: Good luck?
Speaker 2: Good luck?
Speaker 5: I lie, I take that as a compliment.
Speaker 7: You should as you as you well should. I don't
Speaker 7: think I've ever been the type of comedian I I
Speaker 7: And I don't know if this is good or bad,
Speaker 7: but I definitely don't think I'm the type of comedian
Speaker 7: where it's like, well, only she can make that material work,
Speaker 7: Like I hope that there's someone out there who could
Speaker 7: make the material sound better than I did, because I
Speaker 7: just don't think I'm like, I don't have like that
Speaker 7: kind of I always felt like I had to work
Speaker 7: really hard on my jokes to make sure that they
Speaker 7: were like the joke was clear, and I don't know,
Speaker 7: like very wordy, very word specific. I like labored over
Speaker 7: the wording because I don't think I had the personality to.
Speaker 6: Carry it otherwise.
Speaker 2: Well, that's hilarious to hear, though, because honestly, you're one
Speaker 2: of for me.
Speaker 3: You're one of my favorite people to watch you comedy.
Speaker 2: Your ideas are always very like they're like I almost
Speaker 2: every time, I'm always like, why didn't I fucking think
Speaker 2: of that joke?
Speaker 3: Like you did that chunk?
Speaker 2: It was it was at the Bootleg and you were
Speaker 2: just trying out a new bit about going to the therapist,
Speaker 2: and it was so it was so what I was
Speaker 2: saying is what I really love about your comedy. It
Speaker 2: is so unapologetically your own story. So it's almost like
Speaker 2: you're saying, hey, look like hey, look, this is just
Speaker 2: what I think of, and I get to say what
Speaker 2: I think of too, and it's always hilarious.
Speaker 3: And this therapist bit, I was.
Speaker 2: Just like, god damn it, Like I've thought of that
Speaker 2: a thousand times, but I've never not in joke form,
Speaker 2: not funny like the way she just said it. Like
Speaker 2: I really love your stand up and I love I
Speaker 2: love like the place you carve out for yourself when
Speaker 2: you do stand up comedy. It's very specific. Yes, I
Speaker 2: think people really feel it.
Speaker 6: I definitely.
Speaker 7: I think it's one of the weird things about doing
Speaker 7: stand up is like I think I went into it
Speaker 7: thinking I was more normal than I was, and then
Speaker 7: doing stand up reveals to you like, no, this is
Speaker 7: the thing that only you think, and that's what you
Speaker 7: should say. But you have to be clear that you
Speaker 7: know that other people don't think that way, otherwise you'll
Speaker 7: leave out vital pieces of information. Do you ever talk
Speaker 7: about your therapist on stage? I tried to, almost defiantly.
Speaker 2: After I saw you do that bit, I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I have this one I was thinking of doing, and
Speaker 2: it was more specific to one thing that happened between
Speaker 2: she and I that was a strange misunderstanding. But once
Speaker 2: I did it, I was like, it doesn't matter. It
Speaker 2: still falls under the umbrella of uh.
Speaker 5: What was it?
Speaker 2: Was that thing of like if your therapist thinks you're
Speaker 2: being weird?
Speaker 7: Was it? No? I mean the thing the thing I
Speaker 7: talked about in my joke was that, like, I mean,
Speaker 7: mostly I talk about how I want to be her
Speaker 7: favorite client and that's not a healthy impulse, but that
Speaker 7: like a friend of mine told me that she had
Speaker 7: made her therapist cry, and I was really jealous.
Speaker 1: I think I did something with my child psychologist that
Speaker 1: I was a goal of mine where he said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I think you're fine, but I do want
Speaker 1: to start talking to your mother.
Speaker 6: That's the dreams.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's that's the fantasy as a child.
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with you, it's everybody else.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe he wanted me to be there too.
Speaker 1: All I heard is that I had passed the torch.
Speaker 5: And do you.
Speaker 7: Think and forgive me for violating Hippa by asking this,
Speaker 7: but do you think it's because you made your mom
Speaker 7: sound messed up?
Speaker 6: Or because you made your mom sound really hot?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, his name was doctor Richard. Come.
Speaker 1: No, I have said that before on here, so sorry
Speaker 1: to repeat myself.
Speaker 5: But you know it was is that something? It is? Yeah, Dick,
Speaker 5: cos it was. Isn't that fun if he's out there?
Speaker 2: If you're astrolian, are in there somewhere so that you
Speaker 2: just don't have any of the challenges?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 6: Doesn't sound gross at all.
Speaker 2: No, it kind of sounds like a curb at least
Speaker 2: it's not come straight up.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, that's a real name. I think it's
Speaker 5: okay that I said his name, but it was years ago.
Speaker 5: I was fifteen.
Speaker 7: He was a child psychic collegist and that was you
Speaker 7: know what, ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, he's probably out
Speaker 7: of the business.
Speaker 1: Yeah he is, and I have I have driven by
Speaker 1: his home office just because it's near downtown to see
Speaker 1: if he's still around, because he was.
Speaker 5: He was a nice man. Well that's what.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was just hearing voices and stuff, so
Speaker 1: we had to talk that out. I think I was
Speaker 1: just having anxiety attacks. But I thought I was being possessed.
Speaker 1: But that's enough about that.
Speaker 7: Really a little morsel and then leave, leave us wanting more.
Speaker 1: It was just background noise being attached to an emotion,
Speaker 1: usually one that's negative.
Speaker 6: Did they tell you what to do?
Speaker 5: Oh? I got a lot of advice. I was told
Speaker 5: by one of my moms, like Crystal.
Speaker 6: The voices. Did the voices tell you what to do?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, that would have scared me, like
Speaker 1: a dog saying killed the queen or you know something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how you we saw it happened to Reggie Jackson in.
Speaker 5: Naked Gun.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh no, it was just it's I know I've
Speaker 1: talked about this, or maybe I haven't, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just background noise like pencils scratching or something
Speaker 1: would turn into sounded like whispering, and I'd get paranoid.
Speaker 5: I think they're just little anxiety attacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when I have them now I just ignore
Speaker 1: them and they're going I thing.
Speaker 6: Of pencil scratching where it kind of sounds angry at you.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I've had that. You have had that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there are people.
Speaker 6: Ever talked to my therapist about it? Is that bad?
Speaker 3: No, it's no, I know happening. It's happening today.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: I've talked about it and there is a word for it,
Speaker 1: and people have told me and I'm like, okay, good.
Speaker 5: And that's all I need to hear.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it all comes back, get under the bus. I
Speaker 2: also wonder, and I probably have said this in response
Speaker 2: to that story, Chris, that that idea that you probably had,
Speaker 2: Like I always like to tell people and this I
Speaker 2: now I do it. In the beginning, I did it
Speaker 2: and I was being sincere, and now I do it
Speaker 2: because people have such a hilariously strong, usually negative reaction
Speaker 2: when I say but I believe myself to be a
Speaker 2: super taster, and everyone's like, oh really, you could taste everything,
Speaker 2: and it's like no, no, I just like if you
Speaker 2: put a piece of cheese in the refrigerator next to
Speaker 2: a tuna sandwich, I'll be able if I bite the cheese.
Speaker 2: I'll be like, this was next to a tuna sandwich.
Speaker 2: Ye like, And it's usually things I don't like or whatever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I wonder if, and it's I've had
Speaker 2: that for a while. I wonder if when you were
Speaker 2: a kid, you just had incredibly sensitive and maybe like
Speaker 2: tuned up hearing and so like you were just left
Speaker 2: to interpret all the sounds you were hearing.
Speaker 1: But like it honestly was a heightened ability to hear
Speaker 1: here background noise that.
Speaker 5: I otherwise couldn't hear it.
Speaker 1: It's almost like so I thought they would check to
Speaker 1: see if I had wax falling around in my ears,
Speaker 1: so suddenly it would be out of the way.
Speaker 5: And I thought I had superman hearing.
Speaker 1: I went to so many doctors, and no one really
Speaker 1: was ever able to Usually I would just make people
Speaker 1: nervous because you're talking about voices.
Speaker 2: Now, will you finally admit today that you were lying
Speaker 2: that whole time?
Speaker 1: It was I was looking for attention from my mother
Speaker 1: and I wanted her to date Richard.
Speaker 5: I thought they'd be a good couple. I wanted her
Speaker 5: to remarry.
Speaker 1: And this is gonna sound gross, but I'm a super
Speaker 1: taster too, except the thing we put in the refrigerator
Speaker 1: that I thought tainted all the food was my pet
Speaker 1: frog had these work. We'd feed them, these worms, and
Speaker 1: they smelled and everything in the refrigerator had a hint
Speaker 1: of this. I'm so sorry, these little buckets of worms.
Speaker 5: I love the frog.
Speaker 3: So this is like no saran wrap on the top
Speaker 3: of the bucket.
Speaker 1: It was in a sealed tupperaire container. Yet still they
Speaker 1: were so punched created otherwise they die though, right, thank you?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but that gets me out of this. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was air rated, and the worm flavor just painted
Speaker 1: all the cheese.
Speaker 3: That were sitting open.
Speaker 7: I think, like, no matter what budget you're working with,
Speaker 7: at a certain point it becomes worth it to just
Speaker 7: get a dedicated worm only fridge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, colledge size, yes, just like.
Speaker 6: A mini fridge. Just yeah, just for cold worms.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: What kind of Arctic worms are these that they need
Speaker 7: to be that cold? I feel like that would kill them,
Speaker 7: wouldn't it not? Wouldn't kill them?
Speaker 6: I yeah, maybe they weren't.
Speaker 1: As fast as Yeah, I just know that trying to
Speaker 1: store them on a window sill, they don't last long
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, there's gotta be a happy medium between absolutely
Speaker 7: greenhouse boiling them and putting them in the crisper drawer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is why beautiful broccoli.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I started bringing the containers into my
Speaker 1: bed with me.
Speaker 2: Now, real quick, I want to ask Emily, did you
Speaker 2: when you felt you also had really good hearing or
Speaker 2: sounds that would morph into other sounds?
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 7: Well, for me, it was just sort of like I
Speaker 7: would be alone in my room and like certain sounds
Speaker 7: like if I was like writing with a pencil, or
Speaker 7: just other random sounds. They just sort of sounded mad
Speaker 7: at me. They didn't sound louder than normal, they didn't
Speaker 7: sound different than normal. There was just something about it
Speaker 7: that made it seem like I was in trouble.
Speaker 1: I don't want to describe it you. That is exactly
Speaker 1: how I tried to describe it. We had the same thing.
Speaker 1: I without a doubt it was the same thing, because
Speaker 1: it was It's not.
Speaker 5: Like the it and it wasn't all the time.
Speaker 7: It was just like no, I think obviously it had
Speaker 7: to do my anxiety or something like it had to
Speaker 7: be alone for a while and just have too much
Speaker 7: time alone in my thoughts or something like.
Speaker 1: But yeah, although one time I remember it hitting me
Speaker 1: while I was riding a bike and I had to
Speaker 1: pull over and ask it to stop, and I would
Speaker 1: audibly say please go away, please go away, because again
Speaker 1: I thought there was a chance these were devils. Sure,
Speaker 1: oh wow, which is horrifying for a kid, But that's
Speaker 1: just don't let your kids watch scary movies.
Speaker 6: Wait, so were you raised religious at all?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: Okay, but you thought that they were double But.
Speaker 1: The worst version of this was at a Bible camp.
Speaker 5: And I've talked about this a.
Speaker 1: Million times, but maybe not this in when all the
Speaker 1: kids were in the same room, sleeping in bunk beds.
Speaker 1: It was a symphony of nasal whistles and breathing that
Speaker 1: I had convinced myself with kids crying out in the
Speaker 1: lake drowning.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, everybody, that's a damaged young boy.
Speaker 6: Can we get mictor Richard come to come in?
Speaker 5: Doctor come, doctor, come in the main office.
Speaker 4: Calling in from Philadelphia, doctor, doctor com I don't think
Speaker 4: I ever like interpreted it too much, like I don't
Speaker 4: think I wondered why it was happening, aside from the
Speaker 4: idea that maybe the world revolved.
Speaker 6: Around me in some way. I was like, there might
Speaker 6: be an explanation in that somehow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, yeah, I guess it's a weird way
Speaker 1: to find out as a narcissistic little boy.
Speaker 7: I mean I thought I was I was a narcissist too,
Speaker 7: or I was just like, oh, yeah, I guess it's
Speaker 7: this is something to you with like this entire universe
Speaker 7: that was built for me malfunctioning in some way that
Speaker 7: only I can notice.
Speaker 2: Well, I would like to counter both of you at
Speaker 2: this time as and I'll just act as doctor Richard,
Speaker 2: come right now and say that both of you.
Speaker 5: Live from Philadelphia, that both of you.
Speaker 2: Have very very strong imaginations and you're very intelligent. So
Speaker 2: the idea that you would basically hear a noise and
Speaker 2: be able to write a story, just like you would
Speaker 2: look at a picture and write a story, or see
Speaker 2: a person's face or reaction and write a story about
Speaker 2: what they're doing or whatever, that's just like all the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 3: Chris, are you looking at your phone?
Speaker 5: I'm looking up talking to you.
Speaker 2: I am with your psychological issues. Any texting, Doctor Richard.
Speaker 1: You know lake House, you know what an amazing multitasker.
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 1: I'm simply reading while listening about noise annoyance associated with
Speaker 1: depression and anxiety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but be in the conversation about it.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 5: And to your point, Chris.
Speaker 7: If you don't focus, she's never gonna marry our mom.
Speaker 2: You're not going to get out of this problem if
Speaker 2: you don't listen to my lecture. When I don't know
Speaker 2: anything about it, and I just tell you what happened.
Speaker 5: This is how mad the voice is used to get.
Speaker 5: This is exactly what happened. Pencils scratching, lectures.
Speaker 3: Screaming at you.
Speaker 2: I used to have a thing where if I started
Speaker 2: to get if I started to get.
Speaker 3: A little song in my head, I would not be
Speaker 3: able to stop.
Speaker 2: Like it would be like a say, a five note
Speaker 2: little piece of music, and I would just hum it
Speaker 2: over and over and then I would do it until
Speaker 2: I gave myself a stomach ache, and then I would
Speaker 2: have to kind of do the same thing about loud,
Speaker 2: be like, don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3: Where it'd be like almost a I don't know if.
Speaker 2: That's a little bit OCD type of thing, where would
Speaker 2: just be like this song, this is the song I'm
Speaker 2: using to. I think it's because, uh, maybe all of
Speaker 2: us were left alone too much as at a young age,
Speaker 2: where it's like what else is your brain gonna do?
Speaker 5: But but have chumbawamba. I get knocked down, but I
Speaker 5: get up again.
Speaker 6: Original songs or was it?
Speaker 3: And songs is very generous.
Speaker 2: It was like one of them was like, uh, it
Speaker 2: was like just these little tunes that I recognized as
Speaker 2: almost like to pass the time, like if.
Speaker 3: You're walking home from school, or if I.
Speaker 6: Was trying to.
Speaker 3: Exactly, I would just be like.
Speaker 2: I would enjoy kind of singing to myself, and then
Speaker 2: after a while I wouldn't be able to stop.
Speaker 3: And then I was like.
Speaker 6: Karen's theme.
Speaker 7: In parentheses walking to school, walked into school.
Speaker 1: Either of you ever when you're playing alone, uh in
Speaker 1: your house's there? Did you ever pretend to die and
Speaker 1: try and lay totally still as credits rolled and like
Speaker 1: it's at the end of an episode of something. My
Speaker 1: thing was that was a fun game.
Speaker 6: I do?
Speaker 7: I do?
Speaker 6: I do opening credits in my car while I'm driving
Speaker 6: listening to a.
Speaker 7: Soone the cold open of the movie, and then it's
Speaker 7: the this is the like you met the character now
Speaker 7: she's driving to work.
Speaker 2: This is the stuff she does, check her out, this
Speaker 2: is this is what she's like in the day to day.
Speaker 2: Mine actually was like five minutes before yours, Chris, is
Speaker 2: where I always loved at night when I was trying
Speaker 2: to go to sleep, to stick my arms outside of
Speaker 2: the bedding, just like TV show hospital patients, and then
Speaker 2: pretend that I was either in a coma and people
Speaker 2: are coming to visit me and apologize and dode on
Speaker 2: me and be like, Karen, you have to please make
Speaker 2: everything's gonna fall apart. It would be like just less
Speaker 2: kind of like pretend like this is what it would
Speaker 2: be like, Oh my.
Speaker 7: God, I had okay, wait, I had a very similar
Speaker 7: thing that I loved to do as a kid, which
Speaker 7: was after I would take a bath, my mom let
Speaker 7: us use these like big beach towels to dry ourselves
Speaker 7: off every day like whenever, and so I would like
Speaker 7: wrap it around my shoulders like it was like a blanket,
Speaker 7: and I would always want her to make me like
Speaker 7: souper something right then, so I could act like I
Speaker 7: was just in like a natural disaster and that the
Speaker 7: gees had like wrapped a blanket around me, and I
Speaker 7: was like eating soup to feel like to restore youself.
Speaker 6: I'm just rescued from a cave.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, or you rescued a bunch of people. It's
Speaker 1: fun to pretend you're a hero, and so you get
Speaker 1: soup from the fireman.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And she eventually caught on that it was not because
Speaker 7: I was hungry, but it was just because I was
Speaker 7: couse playing the victim of a tragedy.
Speaker 6: And she was like, I'm not going to make you
Speaker 6: ramen right now.
Speaker 1: We are not playing We are not playing Tsunami child today.
Speaker 2: Imagine though, if, like the year you started doing that
Speaker 2: and loving it, you got for Christmas one of those
Speaker 2: like aluminum foil blanket wraps for people who run marathons,
Speaker 2: like I'd be the dream gift for you.
Speaker 7: Here's my question, though, I don't know what I saw
Speaker 7: that made that put that image in my head, Like
Speaker 7: I don't know what I was watching or like what
Speaker 7: would I use?
Speaker 6: Would I have?
Speaker 7: I I mean, I feel like I was too young
Speaker 7: to watch the news.
Speaker 3: What how old were you when you did this?
Speaker 6: I want to say, you know, seven or eight?
Speaker 5: Sure? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 6: When I play teen being like, hey, mom, will you
Speaker 6: make me ramen?
Speaker 7: After I get out of the bath it was like
Speaker 7: I was little enough too that like the beach towel
Speaker 7: really was like I would be swimming in it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a bad idea because as a smelly,
Speaker 1: smelly little child, I think I would have thought bathtub
Speaker 1: time was more fun if there was a big, colorful beach.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I was gonna say, you got to act
Speaker 7: like the victim of.
Speaker 5: Au and loud.
Speaker 1: That's a great way to get kids to bathe just
Speaker 1: to pretend there was a flood.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean there's the whole industry of trying to make
Speaker 7: bath time not boring for kids. Like the amount of
Speaker 7: the amount of shit in every kids bathtub is yes, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: We actually at this second house we lived in Petaluma,
Speaker 2: there was a washer dryer in my parents' bathroom, which
Speaker 2: is where the shower was, and so you could have
Speaker 2: a hot out of the dryer towel when you got
Speaker 2: out of the shower. And then my aunt came to stay.
Speaker 2: My aunt Kathleen, who was like the queen of all
Speaker 2: good ideas and have you heard of this thing? She
Speaker 2: was like always had the newest, coolest thing, And then
Speaker 2: she goes, you know, you need pat bath sheets, Like
Speaker 2: we were still in bath towel area. But bath sheets
Speaker 2: are the ones that are like crazy big. So then
Speaker 2: we had these peach colored bath sheets.
Speaker 6: I've never heard of this.
Speaker 5: I do not know what a bath sheet.
Speaker 3: Is, guys, are you serious? I guess it'd be the
Speaker 3: one to tell.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So my dad is like six foot four, so he
Speaker 2: needs everything bigger anyway. And bath sheets are like the
Speaker 2: standard bath towel where you go vootvoot and you basically
Speaker 2: have say half a foot on either side of towel, right,
Speaker 2: like for the wrapping depending on your size.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and for the listeners, Karen just mind wrapping
Speaker 7: it around her waist, yeah, kind of like I know
Speaker 7: you said foot foot and probably everyone knew what you meant.
Speaker 6: But in case.
Speaker 3: Voot, a wrapping sound.
Speaker 5: Under the arm, Pito.
Speaker 2: But a bath sheet would be like, you know, six
Speaker 2: five feet long or something. I'm sure there's stats that
Speaker 2: we could actually look up, Chris, if you want to
Speaker 2: look up bath sheet stead can.
Speaker 1: I can only do that if you start telling me
Speaker 1: a story.
Speaker 3: It has to be about your personal life.
Speaker 5: Is it the texture?
Speaker 1: I'm guessing here, but it's it a thin towel basically,
Speaker 1: but its.
Speaker 6: Picture it like it's really thin, but that's.
Speaker 2: No, it's the sheet is kind of supposed to be
Speaker 2: referencing the very large size, but it is like a
Speaker 2: regular bath towel that's just way bigger. So then we
Speaker 2: had like new bath towels that were gigantic and hot
Speaker 2: out of the dryer.
Speaker 3: So were you have never.
Speaker 6: Fully burrito your entire body if you're.
Speaker 2: A child, Yeah, yes, and almost like have no downtime
Speaker 2: of like that discomfort between shower and clothes where you're
Speaker 2: just kind of like at in between.
Speaker 3: Like that was just like a great commercial.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no brag, sorry, but it just reminded me of it.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm overwhelmed right now with a desire to
Speaker 1: have giant towels.
Speaker 2: It's a good idea just when when you're drying, when
Speaker 2: you're buying towels like a target, you know how like
Speaker 2: the little thing is like you know, hand towel, guest towel, Yeah,
Speaker 2: bath towel, bath.
Speaker 3: Sheet, Just go one like shelf down or over. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just keep looking you'll.
Speaker 5: Find I know what.
Speaker 1: I just got my first of which they've been around forever.
Speaker 1: They're very popular a robe. Oh yeah, and I just
Speaker 1: walk around, you know, kind of pretending to be a
Speaker 1: not problematic Hugh Hefner. I love wearing a robe and
Speaker 1: that's perfect out of the out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just got it. Yeah, you got to you
Speaker 5: got to launder those.
Speaker 6: I feel like robes are.
Speaker 7: One of those things where it was like a specific
Speaker 7: moment in adulthood when I was like, oh, I can buy.
Speaker 1: This if they're fifty two one hundred dollars. And I
Speaker 1: don't know why robes are so high, but once you
Speaker 1: get it, it's like worth it.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's why. As they know, they're like,
Speaker 7: you want it.
Speaker 1: You are a man, you want this seventy nine dollars
Speaker 1: case well, and it should last.
Speaker 2: Like if you get a good robe, you you'll take
Speaker 2: like three years to break it in, right if it's
Speaker 2: like a towel robe where you're going to need to
Speaker 2: kind of like you know, at first, it's it feels
Speaker 2: like you're wearing a long, large terry cloth overcoat when
Speaker 2: you have a robe and you're just like, uh, but
Speaker 2: you have to wash it like twenty times, and then
Speaker 2: it's then it's your robe.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing I keep seeing on TV.
Speaker 7: Like characters where it's like they're doing a scene in
Speaker 7: the morning where they just woke up where they're wearing
Speaker 7: like pajama pants and just like a like a nice
Speaker 7: comfy looking T shirt, but then they have like just
Speaker 7: like a cotton robe over that, like this is my
Speaker 7: morning time.
Speaker 6: And I really wonder if anyone does.
Speaker 1: That right in real And are you just are you
Speaker 1: talking about pajamas because I've never understood having a shirt
Speaker 1: with a little pocket up front and a little pointy.
Speaker 5: Hat matching pants.
Speaker 3: I never don't understand the pointy hat. I mean in wintertime.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain points in history where it's
Speaker 1: a very bad thing.
Speaker 5: But I'm not here to talk about that. I'm talking
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 6: You're talking about a matching pajama set.
Speaker 5: With like I'm talking about like the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these these crazy people who don't simply sleep in
Speaker 1: their underwear, That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: I will say I have recently become one of these people.
Speaker 7: I have recently started buying matching pajama sets. And I'm
Speaker 7: really struggling to think of why it's worth it right now.
Speaker 7: But there's something about it that is really nice. It's
Speaker 7: a nice way of keeping track first of all, what
Speaker 7: you slept in the night before.
Speaker 3: It's true that you're not just keeping the same thing.
Speaker 7: So like, did I wear these pajama pants every day
Speaker 7: this week? It's like, no, I wore this set and
Speaker 7: then this set and then this set. But yeah, I
Speaker 7: don't know what else about it is nice.
Speaker 2: It's just nice, don't you think In quarantine I was
Speaker 2: right here with an answer for you, because I feel
Speaker 2: like there was that. I mean, I was already kind
Speaker 2: of a sweatpants as pants were trying to get away
Speaker 2: with that as much as possible, right, but when quarantine started,
Speaker 2: it was just like it literally didn't matter every day
Speaker 2: for two years of our lives what we wore because
Speaker 2: we weren't really probably going to go anywhere or see anybody.
Speaker 2: And then I think that after a while, yeah, Like
Speaker 2: I remember thinking to myself at say month eleven of
Speaker 2: the quarantine, like, take a shower, it makes you feel better,
Speaker 2: like stop, just stop just getting up and then just
Speaker 2: do it, like and then following the day around like
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 7: What's interesting though, the more that I'm thinking about it
Speaker 7: is that like I definitely dress like shit all the
Speaker 7: time because of quarantine. I guess, but also just because
Speaker 7: it's comfortable. But that means that my pajamas are fancier
Speaker 7: than the clothes I wear for daytime.
Speaker 6: For being awake.
Speaker 7: I put on a little fancy collar uniform to go unconscious.
Speaker 7: It's not more cute, more more put together than anything
Speaker 7: else the rest of the day.
Speaker 5: Do you do you ever put anything in the pocket bring.
Speaker 1: It to bed, a little little action figure.
Speaker 7: No, it's like I'll put my in it if I'm
Speaker 7: walking around, like getting ready for bed.
Speaker 6: That's all that I use it for.
Speaker 1: How did you sleep terribly? I rolled over onto my carnation.
Speaker 2: My.
Speaker 3: Formal. That's such a funny observation.
Speaker 2: It's so true. It's like, what do you ever wear
Speaker 2: a button down shirt, oh at night when I'm at night.
Speaker 6: When I'm asleep, and it matches the pants.
Speaker 7: That go with it.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 1: I kept dressing up, I kept putting on outfit where
Speaker 1: everything looked good together, and I was not leaving the
Speaker 1: house and it I think it was just to kind
Speaker 1: of feel normal. Yes, yeah, but I was even ordering
Speaker 1: new clothes.
Speaker 7: I got really into like certain routine stuff, like I
Speaker 7: got diagnosed with ADHD like three years before the pandemic,
Speaker 7: and so when the pandemic hit, I was like, I
Speaker 7: need to be so strategic about this or I'm going
Speaker 7: to do nothing feel terrible and just this is gonna
Speaker 7: be the worst. So I got like really systematic about
Speaker 7: the stuff that I did to like make sure that
Speaker 7: I was doing stuff every day, and like, ye got
Speaker 7: into like really granular ways of like planning my day.
Speaker 7: But it meant that I didn't have to like do
Speaker 7: the outfit thing in order to make it feel like
Speaker 7: a day. Yeah, I would still dress like absolute shit,
Speaker 7: but you were doing other stuff, but I was doing
Speaker 7: other stuff that like kept me on track and stuff.
Speaker 5: But right, things that matter, not the I prioritize. Yeah, agree,
Speaker 5: it mattered.
Speaker 7: It would just be like I would just like I
Speaker 7: would start every day by like I would give myself
Speaker 7: a specific I said a bunch of timers on my phone,
Speaker 7: and every day at like eleven am, which is when
Speaker 7: I said my day started, I gave myself like fifteen
Speaker 7: to twenty minutes to plan.
Speaker 6: Everything else for the rest of the day. So I
Speaker 6: would plan when my meals would happen, what my meals
Speaker 6: would be. I would make a list of everything I
Speaker 6: needed to do that day and then like look at
Speaker 6: my hourly calendar and decide when I would do certain things.
Speaker 6: And I tried to make like a general sort.
Speaker 7: Of like template where it was like this is the
Speaker 7: hour when I do housework, this is the hour when
Speaker 7: I do writing. And so then every day I would
Speaker 7: plug in like the specific housework thing I needed to
Speaker 7: do and things like that, and I did maybe half
Speaker 7: of what I said I was going to, but it
Speaker 7: was still way more than if I hadn't done anything.
Speaker 6: At all to plan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's completely you were like own butler?
Speaker 6: Yeah kind of yes. Is that what butlers do?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of.
Speaker 2: Work to do, present presenting you the menu for the day,
Speaker 2: and having your agenda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm just thinking of the butler from Arthur
Speaker 1: that actually told him to take a bath.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: That was the thing where it was like I had
Speaker 7: to schedule that in and to figure out where it
Speaker 7: was going to happen. And I did start to That
Speaker 7: was a thing where it was like I would I
Speaker 7: would schedule my sho for like four in the afternoon.
Speaker 6: When I would start to like.
Speaker 7: Flag a little bit, has like a little bit of
Speaker 7: a like wake up, like yeah, yeah, jolt.
Speaker 5: Are you still doing it? Did it carry over to
Speaker 5: post kind of full out of it?
Speaker 7: I'm still trying to do it, like this was from yesterday.
Speaker 6: Look at that I didn't like still in the hours
Speaker 6: I'm holding up.
Speaker 5: Organized that you really are doing it?
Speaker 7: I am.
Speaker 1: What are those categories? There's a garden category.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like jeopardy. So there's I mean, okay, so
Speaker 7: I'll take you through it. So the things I would
Speaker 7: I say, I have to do every day, our schedule, stretch,
Speaker 7: meal plan today I did none of those, God bless.
Speaker 7: And so then I have color coded sections because like
Speaker 7: making a to do list, I feel like it should
Speaker 7: have separate types of tasks because sometimes you're in the
Speaker 7: mood for one kind of task and not others. Certain
Speaker 7: tasks I can watch TV on doing them, and that's
Speaker 7: a high.
Speaker 6: Priority task idea, yes, of course.
Speaker 7: And then there are like things I have to do outside,
Speaker 7: things I have to do in my office.
Speaker 6: But so work is red.
Speaker 7: So that's like anything usually like writing stuff, or like
Speaker 7: anything that I have to do on the computer, like
Speaker 7: email stuff. Then there's I mean, my old color coding
Speaker 7: system was red was writing, blue was administrative and housework.
Speaker 7: Housework was another one, and then right now it's just
Speaker 7: blue is miscellaneous to do?
Speaker 2: It is CVS in there, going to getting some cute
Speaker 2: tips or whatever.
Speaker 6: I forgot to go to CVS. I do have to
Speaker 6: go to CVS today.
Speaker 7: Write, write this is why I should have done my
Speaker 7: schedule today, because I should have.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do that as soon as we're off.
Speaker 1: No, it's why you need an all inclusive butler.
Speaker 7: Yeah. But then there is a garden section which has
Speaker 7: been like less.
Speaker 6: I have less to do in the garden right.
Speaker 7: Now because I'm taking this season off because we're doing
Speaker 7: work out there, so I can't. I had to like
Speaker 7: dismantle my garden beds. I'm not doing like a full
Speaker 7: push this year. But now it's just like very low
Speaker 7: key maintenance stuff. But I do have to.
Speaker 6: Oh I can cross one of those things off. I
Speaker 6: did it the other day. Great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, put yourself on the back.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, now you have to actually pat yourself.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 5: There, wait, I have I.
Speaker 6: Have a trophy over here. I can just hand it
Speaker 6: to myself.
Speaker 3: Yes, what you got?
Speaker 5: Oh? What is that a speech and debate trophy someone
Speaker 5: at a podium?
Speaker 7: Yes, I have all my I have all my speech
Speaker 7: and debate trophies interpretation.
Speaker 6: No, I did Lincoln Douglas.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 7: Humors interurp would have been, would have made sense. But
Speaker 7: I didn't know I wanted to do any comedy yet.
Speaker 7: I was just like, I think Lincoln Douglas was a
Speaker 7: sort of low Like I knew I wanted to argue
Speaker 7: with people and I wanted to be told that I
Speaker 7: was right at the end.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's funny. The only trophies I have are
Speaker 1: from the Pinewood Derby Boy Scout, where you make little
Speaker 1: cars out of wood.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, this is the.
Speaker 7: First proof I've gotten that that happens outside of TV.
Speaker 1: Also, I was way into the Pinewood dirty and I
Speaker 1: may have cheated and added extra weight at some point,
Speaker 1: like I wanted to win and I did win.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the and.
Speaker 1: The trophies, they're the same trophies a race car driver
Speaker 1: would get, though it's just a car. Like if anyone
Speaker 1: just glanced at them, they're like, oh, I didn't know
Speaker 1: you had a pass in motor sports.
Speaker 7: And that's another thing that as an adult you can
Speaker 7: just buy.
Speaker 6: It turns out is.
Speaker 7: You can just go to a trophy store and get
Speaker 7: whatever you want.
Speaker 6: These are so cheap, like I can.
Speaker 7: Unscrew them, like, yes, it's of course I could, definitely,
Speaker 7: But yeah, I have all my I have two.
Speaker 6: You are correcting your intro.
Speaker 7: I have not won an Emmy, but I have two
Speaker 7: Writers Guild Awards, and I have those just among all
Speaker 7: of my high school debate trophies.
Speaker 1: What did you win Writers' Guild Awards for? Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: we won.
Speaker 7: Two years we won for Best New Comedy, and then
Speaker 7: the next year we just won Best Comedy, which was cool.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you, and such a good show.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 7: And the awards are really pretty and heavy, especially compared
Speaker 7: to the fucking trophies that I want in high school.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, in high school it is like you know,
Speaker 2: you probably they ran their budget over by buying three
Speaker 2: trophies or whatever.
Speaker 3: God for you two.
Speaker 1: Ever, did you write any episodes that were directed by
Speaker 1: Maggie Carey?
Speaker 7: Oh, you know what, I think both seasons my episodes
Speaker 7: were directed by Hero Marai at least season one was
Speaker 7: I don't remember who. I think he directed my season
Speaker 7: two episode as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Maggie was an old Yeah.
Speaker 1: I moved to Austin with her, she is my girlfriend
Speaker 1: out of college. But she had a regional Emmy. She
Speaker 1: made a documentary in college about women homesteaders. Oh, and
Speaker 1: was still a student and one an Emmy. That's like,
Speaker 1: it's the Emmy trope. It's just slightly as smaller size,
Speaker 1: like because I think later she got bigger ones.
Speaker 6: But it deserves them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: She and and it was so cool that she won
Speaker 1: this as a student, Like, had an Emmy.
Speaker 6: That's so cool.
Speaker 7: How do you keeping a normal person after you win
Speaker 7: an Emmy in college?
Speaker 5: I know, I'm such a bad I'm so glad.
Speaker 7: I didn't accomplish anything until after I was twenty five.
Speaker 6: I would have been so insufferable.
Speaker 7: No one would I would have no friends right now
Speaker 7: if that had happened to me.
Speaker 1: I know, I thought I always wanted her to just
Speaker 1: carry it around with her everywhere.
Speaker 5: I'm like, every we won't have to wait in lines.
Speaker 5: There's also a sharp and intimidating weapon.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, seems super dangerous.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it's but yeah, yeah, me too. That's why
Speaker 1: I never accomplished a thing. I didn't want to.
Speaker 5: Have to live up to.
Speaker 6: The dangerous is too.
Speaker 3: I'm scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, My biggest fear has always been trying to live
Speaker 1: up to a younger version of myself.
Speaker 5: Really, and thank god that.
Speaker 2: Just not It's not been a problem. Yeah, Emily, you've
Speaker 2: been saying on Twitter that you have been watching The
Speaker 2: guilded Age. Oh I want to talk about it, Chris.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if you don't watch this, I met.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's.
Speaker 5: Okay, I have a lot to look up on my phone.
Speaker 7: There's gonna be some some bustle talk, I think, which
Speaker 7: might be a problem. Oh yeah, did you every finale yesterday?
Speaker 3: Yep, I just watched it last night.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what the fuck are they doing?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 7: There are like multiple storylines that they just let go
Speaker 7: of and then just introduced a brand new one yesterday
Speaker 7: about the chef. The chef story was so outrageous. I
Speaker 7: could not believe it. Chris, do you care if we
Speaker 7: spoil any.
Speaker 6: Of this for you?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't, but I will watch it. But I don't
Speaker 1: mind about spoilers.
Speaker 3: It's worth watching.
Speaker 7: There's no such thing as a spoiler on this show
Speaker 7: because nothing happens, and I don't think it. Nothing happens
Speaker 7: where you're like, oh my god, I'm so glad no
Speaker 7: one told me.
Speaker 6: That was gonna happen.
Speaker 7: That has never happened on this show where I've been like,
Speaker 7: oh wow, what a twist. Yeah, yeah, it's a yule
Speaker 7: logue of a TV show.
Speaker 1: It's like it's even when someone yeah, even if someone
Speaker 1: did that to me with Game of Thrones or something,
Speaker 1: and chances are I'm like, well, I don't know that name.
Speaker 5: I'd have to see them.
Speaker 3: Write it down and you're not. But I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: you know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I was watching it last night going because I've I've
Speaker 2: read people's I've read the articles and whatever, but I
Speaker 2: think that there are cast members that are so above
Speaker 2: and beyond excellent. Right, so there's good watching to be had.
Speaker 2: But they're doing a lot with kind of not that much. Yes,
Speaker 2: but I really do believe this show belongs to the
Speaker 2: costumer and the outfits that they're clearly handmaking for every
Speaker 2: single fucking episode where there are hundreds of dresses, and
Speaker 2: Carrie Koon I've seen posts on Twitter where she has
Speaker 2: a body double, and I went, they have to make
Speaker 2: two of them, of every one of these fucking dresses
Speaker 2: at least.
Speaker 6: Yeah, everyone on this show deserves.
Speaker 7: A lot of credit except for the guy who wrote
Speaker 7: it because he's.
Speaker 6: Doing so little. And my god.
Speaker 7: So there's this twist in the finale. Everyone skip ahead
Speaker 7: if you don't want to hear about this. There's a
Speaker 7: twist in the finale where this French chef gets a
Speaker 7: letter from his estranged wife, which every Julian Fellow's show
Speaker 7: has to have someone getting a letter from their estranged
Speaker 7: wife saying that she's gonna threaten to out him as
Speaker 7: not actually being French but actually being from Kansas or whatever.
Speaker 6: And then he just all of.
Speaker 7: A sudden, this guy who's been speaking with a French
Speaker 7: accent for nine episodes stops using a French accent, and
Speaker 7: it's sounds so ridiculous, and it's also like, this is
Speaker 7: not a character that we give a shit about. He's
Speaker 7: had no other stories in any other episodes. He's just
Speaker 7: the guy who's there and who's French. And then in
Speaker 7: this episode it's like this big bombshell, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 7: but there's this other guy who you haven't had. He's
Speaker 7: been stalking this woman and he confronted her in the
Speaker 7: last episode and he was like, don't you remember me?
Speaker 7: And they never told us why, and then they still
Speaker 7: don't tell us why in the finale, like a bunch
Speaker 7: of scenes on this French guy who know it, there's
Speaker 7: no consequences, even like he almost gets fired and then
Speaker 7: he comes back like what are they doing on this show?
Speaker 6: I want I want to watch one hundred more hours
Speaker 6: of it immediately.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's the long con of we're gonna
Speaker 2: we're we're intending to pull you through to the second season,
Speaker 2: because to me, the chef, it seemed like they were
Speaker 2: starting a romance type of thing between the chef and
Speaker 2: the house manager that takes notes in her notebook, you know, the.
Speaker 6: Short giving them too much credit.
Speaker 3: They're not again credit.
Speaker 6: They are not planning this. There's no there's no fucking plan.
Speaker 6: There is no plan.
Speaker 7: I think they have maybe a couple ideas for stuff
Speaker 7: that they want to happen, like endgame, but they didn't
Speaker 7: set up anything. They didn't give us any cliffhangers. There
Speaker 7: was no There was no drama at Gladys's ball, Like
Speaker 7: there was no drama at Gladys's Ball.
Speaker 3: Nothing drama was.
Speaker 2: The drama was they were dressed like Madonna from the
Speaker 2: Express Yourself. The second Live MTV Performance nineteen eighty nine
Speaker 2: entertain meant there was a no, not that one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they did a quadrille, a quadrille dressed as like
Speaker 7: Marie Antoinette that like wearing powdered wigs.
Speaker 5: Oh sure, sure, now I vividly thank you, now you know?
Speaker 3: Now you know?
Speaker 7: Yeah, when that dance happened, it was one of those
Speaker 7: moments where it's like everyone's losing their minds because they're
Speaker 7: doing like a kind of funny dance.
Speaker 6: And I was like, all right, none of them had TV.
Speaker 7: That's why this is so truly entertaining, entertaining to them.
Speaker 6: This is the most fun they've had all week.
Speaker 2: But I do believe in Julian Fellows, right, is the
Speaker 2: guy that made the series, And what I believe in
Speaker 2: in him is basically, you want to be in the
Speaker 2: ultra rich people's house while they do shit. So if
Speaker 2: you're just a fly on the wall while you watch
Speaker 2: you know, Missus Russell fucking like Tom and dear Society,
Speaker 2: hell yet, right, because what more do you need? If
Speaker 2: you if there's too much, you won't believe it. So
Speaker 2: it's just like, yeah, you just get to be here
Speaker 2: when they all do rich people shit, and you'll love
Speaker 2: all of it because you're you're basically a peasant.
Speaker 7: You're basically at like a historical reenactment rather than like
Speaker 7: a TV show where you're just sort of like they're
Speaker 7: just sort of like waftily like living their lives and
Speaker 7: you're just sort of like floating around like a dust
Speaker 7: moat and you don't nothing happens.
Speaker 2: You know. The German the German cooked stole for one episode.
Speaker 2: Remember that at the very beginning, like she was stolen,
Speaker 2: and then she was stealing, was stolen, she was stealing,
Speaker 2: and then she turned herself in the end.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's how they did.
Speaker 7: It was just like and then there was there's so
Speaker 7: many like little plotlines where and then there was like
Speaker 7: that other woman went to go visit her mother and
Speaker 7: that was it.
Speaker 6: And then the end her mother was mean and she
Speaker 6: comes back to the house the end, and yeah, there's
Speaker 6: just a lot.
Speaker 5: But to be clear, you both like this show.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 6: I love it, but it's bad.
Speaker 7: It's like I love it and it's bad, and I
Speaker 7: want I want to watch many, many more hours of it.
Speaker 6: And he's also.
Speaker 7: Making really obvious mistakes because the guy who's writing it
Speaker 7: is Julian Fellows, the guy who created down Abby, and
Speaker 7: it's just he is a like a very conservative British
Speaker 7: Man and he loves the fantasizing about a time when
Speaker 7: poor people were very grateful.
Speaker 6: For service jobs. That's that's his favorite thing.
Speaker 7: But he sets it far enough in the past that
Speaker 7: like he can he can have like one of the
Speaker 7: one of the rich people say like, well I actually
Speaker 7: think women maybe they should vote, and it can feel progressive,
Speaker 7: even though that's maybe as far as Julian Fellows actually
Speaker 7: believe that things should go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wanted it to stop there. Yeah he was.
Speaker 2: Also he's also still suspicious about electricity, you know. But
Speaker 2: here's what I want to give credit for, like as
Speaker 2: because the because I think sometimes and this could have
Speaker 2: been the thinking. Remember when like Ted Lasso got so
Speaker 2: huge and people are just like, yeah, we're all beaten
Speaker 2: down by the like this Trump era of extreme and
Speaker 2: constant shittiness, and people want to turn the TV on
Speaker 2: and go there where people are like intentionally always nice
Speaker 2: and treating other people well and teaching them how to
Speaker 2: be nice. And that concept is just as fantastical, right
Speaker 2: as like as this where it's this is almost like
Speaker 2: next stage where like we're not really in quarantine anymore,
Speaker 2: but we also don't know what the fuck is going on,
Speaker 2: and now there's all this other weird shit.
Speaker 3: Hey over here, check these dresses out.
Speaker 2: There's color combinations you won't even understand, Like the dress
Speaker 2: that the astor daughter was wearing that had it talk
Speaker 2: about a rogue, remember the blue balls, and then the
Speaker 2: the material of the dress was peach colored. And I'm like, sorry,
Speaker 2: this is it must be historically based like it. You know,
Speaker 2: those people were studying old shit, so there you can.
Speaker 2: I just keep thinking, like I trust these people that
Speaker 2: they're showing us how horrifying these fucking dresses were real time.
Speaker 3: This was early.
Speaker 6: Some of the dresses are really bad.
Speaker 3: There was yeah, I mean, and some are like you
Speaker 3: just show is about it.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's called the Gilded Age because it's like
Speaker 7: the rise of tackiness. It was like the very beginning
Speaker 7: of hackiness.
Speaker 5: Is one of the money was about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 7: But I will say, like I don't find it to
Speaker 7: be pure escapism because it's like about the rise of
Speaker 7: the robber baron, which is like something we're living through again.
Speaker 7: Like all of the stuff that took all of the
Speaker 7: like legislation that we like took down the robber barons
Speaker 7: and broke up the like monopolies and stuff. Is like, oh,
Speaker 7: we like got rid of that recently, and now they're
Speaker 7: just coming back.
Speaker 2: And now it's just billionaires that literally evade the law
Speaker 2: and make their own rules. And yeah, yeah it's and
Speaker 2: they're smart enough not to do it at balls, Like
Speaker 2: now they're just off. Now they're off on mega yachts
Speaker 2: in Morocco or wherever.
Speaker 7: Anyway, if anyone wants to talk to me about rain
Speaker 7: chains or the Gilded Age, I'll I'll just go.
Speaker 6: You don't even have to put a corner in me.
Speaker 5: I'll just go.
Speaker 6: I'm upset. I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 7: It's so good, and I'm so annoyed that there are
Speaker 7: no more episodes and we're gonna have to wait so long.
Speaker 6: I'm sure sure his sweet time writing the next.
Speaker 3: Season, although would you say that.
Speaker 2: I just felt like there were so many like balls
Speaker 2: still in the air once I was like at the
Speaker 2: final season or whatever, where it's just like there's like
Speaker 2: four plots that you absolutely are going to It's like
Speaker 2: someone's going to have to explain to us what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there must be a set.
Speaker 2: I think it's if it's Julian Fellows, They're like, you
Speaker 2: automatically get two or three seasons.
Speaker 3: So we're just that's my and maybe it's too much.
Speaker 7: I don't think there's a question whether they're going to
Speaker 7: give it another season. I think they have to write
Speaker 7: and I think I just think that it's going to
Speaker 7: take a long time.
Speaker 6: I just think.
Speaker 7: Especially it's like every famous Broadway actor is in this show,
Speaker 7: like the amount of coordination that needs to happen. I'm
Speaker 7: also convinced that like almost everyone is filming in front
Speaker 7: of a green screen or something like, because it's just
Speaker 7: like you.
Speaker 6: Don't have I was thinking about that, like in the last.
Speaker 7: Episodes the first time when everyone's together at the ball,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, everyone had to be in front of
Speaker 7: a green screen for that. There's no way that they
Speaker 7: got Christine Baranski's schedule to line up with schedule, and
Speaker 7: Donna Murphy and like every other one of those people.
Speaker 6: It's I don't even know what to say about it.
Speaker 2: Real quick, how about fucking Nathan Lane Nathan Lane kick
Speaker 2: founder founder.
Speaker 7: I was I was talking about it like I was
Speaker 7: like I was trying to get someone excited about this
Speaker 7: show and about that the episode where he shows up,
Speaker 7: because I was like, there is gonna be a real
Speaker 7: record scratch cameo that you are going to be excited about.
Speaker 7: It's like a real what's the word, like, uh, what's
Speaker 7: the word for when it's like.
Speaker 6: A stunt cast stunt casting?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 7: I was like, there's some fun stunt casting in this
Speaker 7: episode because the episode where Nathan Lane, he's playing this
Speaker 7: real life guy named Ward McAllister who was like the
Speaker 7: lackey to.
Speaker 6: Caroline aster or whoever you know.
Speaker 7: Missus Astor who had like the list of the four
Speaker 7: hundred people who are allowed in society and he was
Speaker 7: like her lackey and so you if you got him
Speaker 7: on your side, And the scene where they.
Speaker 6: Introduce him, they basically.
Speaker 7: Have every single person in the room gets their own
Speaker 7: reaction shot before they before he shows up, and it's
Speaker 7: basically they're basically all being like, oh shit, it's Nathan Lane.
Speaker 7: And he comes out with this mustache that is like
Speaker 7: a lloreal mustache with a little like Van Dyke on
Speaker 7: the on the chin and he's doing fog horn leg
Speaker 7: horn and it's perfect it's so it's so big. But
Speaker 7: then if you look up the real guy in real life,
Speaker 7: like his real life facial hair was even more ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Really, yes, and you look up.
Speaker 7: A picture of Ward McAllister, like the photographs of him,
Speaker 7: you're like, oh, they took it down because they were like,
Speaker 7: if we actually did this, people wouldn't wouldn't believe that
Speaker 7: this is what we actually looked.
Speaker 6: Like, wait, I'm pulling it up.
Speaker 5: Do you think it really was?
Speaker 1: They're all these individual shots are because it was a
Speaker 1: COVID safe filming environment or something when all of the.
Speaker 7: Actors are like so busy, Okay, can you see this
Speaker 7: picture of this guy's facial hair?
Speaker 5: Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, should have been Giamati. Should have been Giamatti,
Speaker 3: I'll say it.
Speaker 6: Right now, exactly like Paul Giamatti for sure.
Speaker 7: But I also just think it was the type of
Speaker 7: thing where it's like it should have been Lathan Lane, Like, yes,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of like implying that this character is
Speaker 7: gay as well, So it was like Giamati would have
Speaker 7: been wrong.
Speaker 2: True, Tucci would could have made it work, but I
Speaker 2: do think that Nathan Lane is doing it with the
Speaker 2: glimmer in his eye. That is like holistically, it's like,
Speaker 2: I know what's happening.
Speaker 3: I'm in this. I love it. I also know you
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 2: Like what he's doing is kind of like we all
Speaker 2: have a wonderful Jim at the picnic.
Speaker 6: And honestly, that's the vibe of the whole show.
Speaker 7: Like Gilded Age is just watching like all of Broadway's
Speaker 7: top stars having a murder mystery party, yeah, where no
Speaker 7: one gets murdered, but they're still committed to the character,
Speaker 7: like they forgot to assign a murderer, but everyone's in costumes,
Speaker 7: so they're like, we might as well keep doing these
Speaker 7: accents for real.
Speaker 3: It's such a joy.
Speaker 1: I tell you, maybe I'll just start watching Down to Abbey.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you haven't watched Down Abbey, I kind
Speaker 7: of feel like Gilded Age is for people who have
Speaker 7: run out of Down Abbey episodes to watch and they
Speaker 7: want they want to be in a similar mood.
Speaker 3: They want to go back. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't dipped my toe in even you know.
Speaker 2: And I have to say, it's just it is, it's
Speaker 2: just rich uh what do they call it.
Speaker 3: It's like rich peeping tom ism.
Speaker 2: And then you're thank you it's not peeping Thomas.
Speaker 7: And yeah, they're all changing, They're always changing.
Speaker 5: I never peek in the windows of the poor people.
Speaker 3: Only because they have the boats.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that pajamas back in the bush now.
Speaker 2: But you can pat yourself on the back because it's
Speaker 2: historical fiction. So it feels like you're kind of learning maybe,
Speaker 2: or like you're watching PBS.
Speaker 3: You can tell yourself.
Speaker 7: I mean, I definitely feel like that without Nabby. I
Speaker 7: don't feel like that at all with the Gilded Age.
Speaker 7: I mean with the Gilded Age.
Speaker 2: Although I will say we were there when Electricity was
Speaker 2: that premiere.
Speaker 7: There is interesting stuff about like the black middle class
Speaker 7: that lived in Brooklyn and like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's some like it's a little bit like.
Speaker 7: There's fun, like real characters who come in. It's like
Speaker 7: Clara Barton starting the Red Cross. We're all going to
Speaker 7: a fundraiser for this new thing called the Red Cross,
Speaker 7: and like yeah, like that what's his name? T Thomas?
Speaker 7: T Thomas loved him, T Thomas Fortune, who is like
Speaker 7: this h he runs a black newspaper and that was
Speaker 7: like based on a real guy and he's like a
Speaker 7: character on the show, and like, oh yeah, she gets
Speaker 7: the job with yeah, she gets the job with and
Speaker 7: then they immediately abandoned that storyline to give her like
Speaker 7: some baby that she lost instead, even though that's a
Speaker 7: less interesting story but whatever, right, But.
Speaker 6: What was the question?
Speaker 5: Love it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's just so fun.
Speaker 2: I think you need to start making a Gilded Age
Speaker 2: podcast to compete directly with HBO.
Speaker 6: Is there official Gilded Age podcast? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, please do.
Speaker 6: I would listen to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would too, for sure.
Speaker 1: Are you are you still doing? Speaking of podcasts, are
Speaker 1: you still doing Baby Genius?
Speaker 5: I am?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I've been doing Baby Geniuses with Lisa Hanniwalt for
Speaker 7: like ten years, I think.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we stopped having We now only do it
Speaker 7: every other week and we don't have guests on anymore,
Speaker 7: which like very simplified it for for us both. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't know if we'll ever stop. I hope we don't.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's it's still going. Yeah, does anyone listen
Speaker 7: to it? Not?
Speaker 6: Really? That's fine.
Speaker 3: Do you get some money because of advertising?
Speaker 7: We actually recently just decided we don't want to do
Speaker 7: ads anymore because we weren't making a ton of money
Speaker 7: on it anyway, and it was like sucking the life
Speaker 7: out of me. Oh yeah, so and we're on max Fun,
Speaker 7: which is like, you know, we pledge money instead and
Speaker 7: so right, yeah, that's where like most of the money
Speaker 7: from it comes from. And it's not a lot of money,
Speaker 7: but it's just like we just do it for fun
Speaker 7: and just I just do it to make Lisa hang
Speaker 7: out with me a couple times a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Karen doesn't know has happened.
Speaker 2: I thought I was just here to really suggest amazing
Speaker 2: topics and I mean I like it seed conversations. Do
Speaker 2: you have any plugs that you want to give? This
Speaker 2: has been thank you so my gosh, thanks nailed it.
Speaker 6: I loved I loved seeing both of you again. It's
Speaker 6: been too long.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to see it too.
Speaker 1: And next time we'll have you in an actual car
Speaker 1: and we'll take you to get pajamas.
Speaker 6: Yes, we'll go to the pajamas store.
Speaker 5: We'll go to the trophy store.
Speaker 7: Let's do that, and then if we each pick out
Speaker 7: a trophy and we get a trophy on whatever we want.
Speaker 5: It's actual idea.
Speaker 3: That's a really really good idea.
Speaker 6: Someone, right, I'm putting it on.
Speaker 7: Put it in there in blue. It's it's an er
Speaker 7: bliscellanius to do. I don't have anything to like. If
Speaker 7: you want to listen to my podcast Baby Geniuses, I
Speaker 7: recommend that. Oh you can watch my entire hour on
Speaker 7: special for free on YouTube.
Speaker 6: Oh yes, it's on YouTube. You can watch that.
Speaker 7: I have an album called Pasta you can buy and uh, yeah,
Speaker 7: very little. I think the the third season of Berry
Speaker 7: is coming out soon, but also on the show in
Speaker 7: a couple of years, so I'm like, I wonder what's
Speaker 7: in it. I've definitely probably changed everything because we were
Speaker 7: like working on a right before the pandemic and then
Speaker 7: like you know, I signed my overall deal. I'm not
Speaker 7: at the show anymore, so they like hadn't started filming
Speaker 7: the season, the last season that I worked on, and
Speaker 7: now it's finally coming out because they shot it at
Speaker 7: some point over the pandemic and I'm sure they rewrote everything.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, it's gonna be a huge surprise.
Speaker 5: What's gonna.
Speaker 7: For you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1: I get sad every time I drive back where the
Speaker 1: Steve Allen Theater used to be because I know that's
Speaker 1: where I had his acting classes, and I'm like.
Speaker 5: I wonder when that Barry shows. I love that show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess it's coming out.
Speaker 7: I think in April, and the new season of the
Speaker 7: Gilded Age comes out as soon as HBO has the
Speaker 7: fucking guts to renew it.
Speaker 3: Do it, you know you have to.
Speaker 2: There's so many there's stories, untold HBO stories.
Speaker 3: I'm told that we must hear.
Speaker 6: I'd like to plug the Gilded Age.
Speaker 7: That's what I want to plug season two, crossing my
Speaker 7: fingers for season two of the Gilded.
Speaker 2: Age, it's let's hope they go downstairs a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Let's get into that, let's get into that servants area,
Speaker 2: Let's let's see what's going on.
Speaker 7: I'm just begging them to finish one of the stories
Speaker 7: they've been telling. Yeah, just just finish one of them.
Speaker 5: Did he immediately lose his French accent?
Speaker 7: Yeah? He well, so he was still talking and they
Speaker 7: were like, wait, so why are you still talking in
Speaker 7: that accent and he was like, I don't know, it
Speaker 7: is just force off abby and they're like, but you
Speaker 7: don't have to do it anymore, and he was like,
Speaker 7: all right, so weird, weird.
Speaker 1: I really like that actually, and I'll plug even though
Speaker 1: I've never seen it down to.
Speaker 3: A yes, good idea.
Speaker 5: Then I'll stop calling it Downtown Abbey. Totally different show.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of anything else. Julian Fellows's work done.
Speaker 2: Please look up, just put him in the search Bark
Speaker 2: Gosford Park is one of the great films of our time.
Speaker 1: In a week, he's going to be like, why do
Speaker 1: I have all this? He'll because IMDb.
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Speaker 7: You know, that's a guy who if anyone has a butler,
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