WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Black Sabbath

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And today

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<v Speaker 1>it's that old anthology feeling once again. Rob. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're a horror anthology man. What is it about you

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<v Speaker 1>that that makes you gravitate towards the anthology? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're talking about two different things, of course, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about horror anthologies on TV and those in

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<v Speaker 1>the film, Because on TV s it's like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different generally, it's a different story every week. And with

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<v Speaker 1>anthology films like the one we're gonna be talking about today,

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<v Speaker 1>you instead of getting one complete film, you get like

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<v Speaker 1>three or four shorter pieces that are stitched together and

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<v Speaker 1>been presented to you. Uh So, I guess maybe part

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<v Speaker 1>of it is just out of love for for creepy

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<v Speaker 1>short stories, in the fact that that short stories don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to obey the same rules as novels, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>in also short films don't have to obey the same

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<v Speaker 1>rules as as complete films. Um. I guess it's also

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<v Speaker 1>nice that they're only going to be They're only gonna

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<v Speaker 1>feel so long, you know they're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the point they can only be so drawn out. And

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<v Speaker 1>and it's also like a little sampler box. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>if if an anthology film is coming at you and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's going to present you with, say three

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<v Speaker 1>to four tales, well you can figure there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one dud in the bunch. Uh, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least still have one that's pretty good. Right, There's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be like like one central pillar holding up the

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<v Speaker 1>roof of the thing. Well, another way I would come

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<v Speaker 1>at it is that even if they're all bad, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more fun to have bad variety than bad monotony. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say so, like you're you're into the badness

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're out again, and then you're into some

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<v Speaker 1>fresh badness. Yeah. I think I would really come back

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<v Speaker 1>to what you were saying about the compare Harrison to

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<v Speaker 1>the lengths of horror fiction. This came up in a

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<v Speaker 1>recent episode where we were talking I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>in The Thing from Another World where we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how, Uh, it's hard to survey to be sure

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<v Speaker 1>about this, but my feeling is that horror novels tend

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<v Speaker 1>to gravitate more towards some semblance of a quote happy ending,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not happy, but some way in which the protagonist

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<v Speaker 1>is at least partially victorious or escapes or something, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>horror short stories tend more toward uh, bleak and cruel

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<v Speaker 1>endings or endings that are that are a really mean

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<v Speaker 1>and ironic twist of fate. And obviously I think there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of reasons why people who enjoy horror

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<v Speaker 1>fiction are drawn to endings of that sort, but they

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<v Speaker 1>they're harder to pull off at the end of a

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<v Speaker 1>really long narrative where you're more invested with the characters,

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<v Speaker 1>You've spent more time with them, and it hurts more

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<v Speaker 1>to see them just sort of like ruined at the end. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think another thing that you certainly see in

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<v Speaker 1>short fiction is it's sometimes short fiction exists in a

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<v Speaker 1>space where it doesn't have to concern itself with the

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<v Speaker 1>ins and outs of a complex plot or some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of fantastic character arc. You know, their characters don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to evolve and change and learn lessons about themselves. It

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<v Speaker 1>can be more about trotting out and interesting idea or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or or or in the in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of of of horror, just just a fun monster or

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<v Speaker 1>some you know, diabolical scenario. That's sort of thing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're correct. I think that the um the

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<v Speaker 1>horror genre especially really does lend itself well to the

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<v Speaker 1>anthology format. I mean, there are plenty of movies that

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<v Speaker 1>are not horror that you could argue are in one

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<v Speaker 1>way or another anthology films of a sort. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>think one thing I've read is that, uh, is that

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<v Speaker 1>pulp fiction was actually the concept for pulp fiction was

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<v Speaker 1>partially inspired by the movie that we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today. Of course, pulp fiction is not horror, but

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<v Speaker 1>today's movie is today's selection for weird house Cinema is

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<v Speaker 1>the Mario Baba nineteen sixty three Italian anthology horror series

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<v Speaker 1>Black Sabbath, or in Italian it's called etre Voulti dela Para.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to look up what that means. It means

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<v Speaker 1>the three Faces of Fear, which is a more accurate

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<v Speaker 1>title because if you're if you're checking out Black Sabbath

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<v Speaker 1>expecting witchcraft and you know, Satan worshippers dancing around a

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<v Speaker 1>fire or some sort of like pagan ordeal or something

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<v Speaker 1>going on, you're going to be disappointed because there is

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<v Speaker 1>no actual Black Sabbath, real or imagined in this picture. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the closest we come to that and

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<v Speaker 1>it still doesn't really get there, but that there's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of that vibe in the middle segment of this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and by far my favorite the WORDU Lac, which is

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<v Speaker 1>I think just an absolutely tremendous segment and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to talk about it. But yeah, at least the

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<v Speaker 1>other two really don't have anything to do with that

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Now, another interesting thing about the title for

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<v Speaker 1>this film is that this is um that this is

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<v Speaker 1>said to be where the band Black Sabbath got their name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And I think I could be wrong about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember hearing It's not even from them necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the movie. I think it was like they walked

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<v Speaker 1>past a movie theater and this was on the Marquee

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, right, yeah, I think there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>another version of the tale. And I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much this sounds almost too perfect, so I it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe it was embellished. But there I read a

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<v Speaker 1>version where they were playing at a theater and then

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<v Speaker 1>across the street Black Sabbath was playing, and the line

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<v Speaker 1>was was far longer to get in to see the

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<v Speaker 1>movie as opposed to getting in to see them play.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, what we need to do is change

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<v Speaker 1>our name. We need to be Black Sabbath, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the people will line up for us. It's like when

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<v Speaker 1>Patty and Selma proposed changing the name of Springfield the

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<v Speaker 1>sign fell. Do you just look at what's popular now

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<v Speaker 1>and and try to leach up. Yeah, so, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So I don't know which of those

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<v Speaker 1>stories is true to what extent, but uh, certainly it

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<v Speaker 1>would be. It's hard to imagine the band Black Sabbath

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<v Speaker 1>without the name Black Sabbath because that the theme runs

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<v Speaker 1>so deep through all of their music. Um, before they

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<v Speaker 1>were called Black Sabbath, they were called Earth. Uh that

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<v Speaker 1>was not very convenient because I think there was another

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<v Speaker 1>band at the time in that area called Earth. It

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<v Speaker 1>has a different taste on the tongue. Initially, Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're thinking about going to hear Earth, you

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<v Speaker 1>have totally different expectations versus Black Sabbath. Well as a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of the at least like the first six

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<v Speaker 1>Black Sabbath albums, that I don't really get into the

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<v Speaker 1>d O years verty much, but the but like the

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<v Speaker 1>first six Sabbath albums, I think, are they're a megalith,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're like one of those stone monuments

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<v Speaker 1>from the ancient world and uh and and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get under them. But I can't imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>I would feel about them if they weren't by a

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<v Speaker 1>band called Black Sabbath that's so wrapped up in the feeling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine Nativity and Black by Earth? It just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense war Pigs by Earth. However, I could

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<v Speaker 1>propose an alternative, which is that if they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>drill in and get to the heart of what makes

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<v Speaker 1>Mario Baba's Black Sabbath really great, they could have changed

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<v Speaker 1>the name of their band to the word las. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's a fun name for a band, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would imply that they've been in the mountains for

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<v Speaker 1>five days and come back in a state of God

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<v Speaker 1>knows what. All right, Well, let's go ahead and give

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<v Speaker 1>everyone a taste of the trailer on this one, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is a pretty good trailer. I love the narration here.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in Ghosts, This is the Night twin

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<v Speaker 1>fear and Horror of Walk hand in Hand, This is

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<v Speaker 1>Black Sabbath, starving the incomparable Boris Karloff, the personable Mark Damon,

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<v Speaker 1>and lush and lovely women, even though one is from

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<v Speaker 1>the nether world, a vampire, a burderlack. Black Sabbath as

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<v Speaker 1>ancient as superstition, as modern as the telephone. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>obvious from the trailer, but I don't think we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that this movie has Boris Karloff in multiple capacities, so

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<v Speaker 1>he is not only the star of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>three segments in the anthology, but he's also sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the the pitchman. He is the company spokesperson at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning and end of the film. And of course this

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<v Speaker 1>is perfect because in later years he also served as

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<v Speaker 1>a horror host on television shows such as Thriller and

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<v Speaker 1>Out of This World. As as I think we've often

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<v Speaker 1>driven home though, like, there's such a wealth of of

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<v Speaker 1>of TV horror anthologies out there, so for instance, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just glance at listings for Boris Karloff's Thriller,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see, oh, it only went two seasons, but it

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<v Speaker 1>went two seasons in the nineties sixties. So those two

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<v Speaker 1>seasons consist of sixty seven episodes. Wow, yeah, it's it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>And man, I thought it was long seasons. When you

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<v Speaker 1>go back and watch a show from the nineties or

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<v Speaker 1>something where there's like twenty episodes in the season, that

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a huge amount. But wow. Yeah. Now, to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, Thriller aired uh sixty one, I mean sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, so it actually aired in America at least

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<v Speaker 1>before Black Sabbath came out, So that might have been

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<v Speaker 1>part of the rationale here is like, well, audiences are

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<v Speaker 1>are used to Boris carl Off presenting material to them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already in it. Let's also get him up on

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<v Speaker 1>the screen introducing this stuff for us. Well, you can

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<v Speaker 1>hear it right in the narration of the trailer. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the part where it says like, uh, starring the incomparable

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<v Speaker 1>Boris carl Off. I guess he is incomparable. But then

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<v Speaker 1>the other cast members they introduce are the personable Mark Damon,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was hilarious. And then they say and

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<v Speaker 1>lush and lovely women gone unnamed, come on, duds, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will list some of their names here in a

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<v Speaker 1>bit Um, there's some nice performances in here. Oh wait

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<v Speaker 1>I left off, though, I think the trailer qualifies that says,

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<v Speaker 1>uh so the women in this movie, Hey, we got

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful women, even though one of them is from the

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<v Speaker 1>nether world. I was trying to think back after having

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<v Speaker 1>seen it, which woman is it talking about. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even sure. Uh yeah, there's not really one that's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>from the nether world. I mean a lot of bad

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<v Speaker 1>supernatural things happen um to people and to some women

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<v Speaker 1>in this, uh this motion picture, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>any of them are from the nether world. All Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess before we talk anymore about the actual contents

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie, we should we should discuss some of

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<v Speaker 1>the connections, and obviously the place to start is with

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<v Speaker 1>the director, Mario Bava. Mario Bava who lived nineteen fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>through nineteen eighty. Um, he was the director, but also

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<v Speaker 1>collaborated on the screenplay. He was the cinematographer, he did

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<v Speaker 1>matt paintings, he did special effects. Uh. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>legendary Italian director with an unmistakable obsessive and phantasmagorical emphasis

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<v Speaker 1>on visual composition. So if you can just look up

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<v Speaker 1>stills from his from his movies, and I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>once you've gotten a taste of of how Baba directs

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<v Speaker 1>and how he composes a shot, a strong still from

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<v Speaker 1>any of his films is just instantly identifiable. Um it

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<v Speaker 1>just it pops with a certain um. It's not only

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<v Speaker 1>the color hue, because I want to stress it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of oh, well, Mario Baba used some

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<v Speaker 1>cool gels here and there, like, No, it's the complete

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<v Speaker 1>it's his use of light and reflections and just the

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<v Speaker 1>overall composition of of every every shot in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever see one of those animated movies in which

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<v Speaker 1>there is a magical gym or artifact that glows with

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<v Speaker 1>magic power, Mario Baba's movies are like that. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>about the way they look that the frames from the

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<v Speaker 1>movie glow with magic power. Yeah, even when there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>less of a reason for it to be glowing. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was thinking as I was watching this particular

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<v Speaker 1>picture that it's it's like an alien civilization that that

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<v Speaker 1>communicates through like synesthesia is trying to speak through the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like it's that obsessive. Like the colors

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<v Speaker 1>are are clearly of of of great importance to Bava

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this, though I will say that I

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<v Speaker 1>totally agree with you. Color is a big part of it,

0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and Bava frequently used sort of expressive colorful lighting, color

0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.960
<v Speaker 1>colored lighting in in his movies that is not strictly realistic,

0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.080
<v Speaker 1>meaning it's not reflecting a color you would actually expect

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<v Speaker 1>to see if this scene were taking place in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world, but rather colors that sort of reflect feelings

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<v Speaker 1>coming through uh and and reflects sort of other worldly,

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<v Speaker 1>unseen influences. But there are also visual sensibilities he has

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<v Speaker 1>where that kind of glowing comes through even when it's

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<v Speaker 1>not in color. Like the example that comes to my

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<v Speaker 1>mind is his earlier movie Black Sunday, which is in

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<v Speaker 1>black and white, and yet it still glows with magic power. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that one was from nineteen sixty and it is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine this, this leap from black and white to

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<v Speaker 1>color from Mario Baba, where they're like, oh, by the way,

0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you can shoot in color now, and uh and and

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<v Speaker 1>and and and you can imagine his excitement at being

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<v Speaker 1>able to do so. So um. Baba's background is interesting.

0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.359
<v Speaker 1>He was the son of an early Italian cinematographer Eugenio

0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Bava and Mario trained as a painter, venturing into the

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<v Speaker 1>world of cinematography as well in the late thirties in

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<v Speaker 1>the early forties, but then he eventually started directing as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It began with some documentary shorts and some uncredited directing

0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.600
<v Speaker 1>work on some various genre films. But then in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty that's when Black Sunday came out that he directed that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a very well regarded and financially successful film,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Black Sabbath is very much the color follow

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<v Speaker 1>up to that. Thus the similar release title again kind

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<v Speaker 1>of coming back to the like studio thought here, it's like, well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>black Sunday did pretty good, welcome and called the next one,

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<v Speaker 1>let's call it a Black sap There we go. Well

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<v Speaker 1>this maybe if that is indeed where the title comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say this is the rare case where I

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<v Speaker 1>would go with the marketing over the original because once again,

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<v Speaker 1>the three faces of fear, that may be more literally

0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.640
<v Speaker 1>descriptive of what you're getting with the movie, but it

0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.560
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really have the same punch to it. Yeah, So

0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Mario Baba directed into the nineteen seventies. Initially he retired.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he came back at the behest of a new

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<v Speaker 1>generation of the tag in horror filmmakers, including his own son,

0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.720
<v Speaker 1>director Lomberto Bava. Um. He came back to direct nine Shock,

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<v Speaker 1>and this would prove to be his last feature film,

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<v Speaker 1>as he then died in nineteen eighty. But uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>directed a number of pictures, so we're not gonna touch

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<v Speaker 1>on them all, but I thought we might talk about

0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a few of them here. One of them is Planet

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<v Speaker 1>of the Vampires from nine teen Rob Can you see

0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the Planet of the Vampires poster right behind me on

0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the wall? I do? I see that you have it

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<v Speaker 1>right there up on the wall behind you, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know obviously you're a fan. Um I. I finally got

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<v Speaker 1>around to watching this in full this year, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say it wasn't the most enthralling motion

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<v Speaker 1>picture when it came to acting and the and the plot,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, such a gorgeous science fiction film to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all of the visuals in it, um he does

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing job and devotes the vast majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>film's energy and limited budget have to add to create

0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:45.680
<v Speaker 1>highly effective and colorful alien landscapes. Haunted Spaceship Hallways also

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<v Speaker 1>has just some incredible costumes. Absolutely so, I love Planet

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<v Speaker 1>of the Vampires, but I usually watch it without sound.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a movie that I love to put on, like

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<v Speaker 1>in the background while I'm hanging out with friends and

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<v Speaker 1>listening to music. That's that's the ideal Planet of the

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<v Speaker 1>Vampire's experience for me, because it's one of those movies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rubbed the fur movie. It's a movie that's

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<v Speaker 1>not really about the plot or what happens in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is about the visual textures on screen, and that

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<v Speaker 1>includes everything from like you you single out the costumes.

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<v Speaker 1>The space farers in the movie are wearing these bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>black leather space suits with these leather helmets, um and

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, the lighting and the sets are are just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely wonderful. Yeah. And it reminds me of a quote

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<v Speaker 1>that I ran across from Mario Baba where he said

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<v Speaker 1>that that horror films are sevent lighting and and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he has a strong point. I mean, you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>see that in his work. But you we've we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about various examples on the show before where we say

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<v Speaker 1>things like, oh, well, the monster costume wasn't great, but

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<v Speaker 1>in this scene, the lighting is amazing, so it absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>works well. Like in the Thing from Another World. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was like if you look at the costume James

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<v Speaker 1>RNs is wearing, like actually, in full lighting, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look very impressive, but they found a way to make

0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it look good within the narrative by either keeping him

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<v Speaker 1>in silhouette backlit so you can't really see him, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just a frame, and or just by giving you quick

0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.360
<v Speaker 1>glimpses of him where you can't really understand what's going on.

0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Like that, they make do in a very effective manner,

0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.800
<v Speaker 1>with some some limitations in terms of costuming and makeup effects.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the Planet of the Vampires was highly influential.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's sometimes been asked, would we even have

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<v Speaker 1>Alien and all the films that came after Alien had

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<v Speaker 1>it not been for Planet of the Vampires, Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and uh and perhaps not. You know, certainly Baba

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<v Speaker 1>was a very influential filmmaker. Yeah. I mean one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big things I think that's called out with respect

0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to Alien is there's a scene in Planet of the Vampires,

0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and Planet of the Vampires came much before it was

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen six five Is that right? Yet there's a

0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.399
<v Speaker 1>scene where the astronauts are on this on this desolate planet,

0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.119
<v Speaker 1>and they go into a cave and they find a

0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:04.760
<v Speaker 1>giant alien skeleton stretched out on this surface, and they're

0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.120
<v Speaker 1>very much like with the discovery of the Derylic spacecraft

0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.480
<v Speaker 1>with the bizarre sort of alien skeleton fused to the

0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.960
<v Speaker 1>chair in in Alien. So ultimately, I think Black Sabbath

0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 1>moves moves along a lot, a lot better. It has

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<v Speaker 1>better pacing uh than Planet of the Vampires Um. But

0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.760
<v Speaker 1>there were still times in this film as within as

0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.280
<v Speaker 1>as in A Planet of the Vampires, where I felt

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<v Speaker 1>myself disconnected from whatever was happening or supposed to be

0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.280
<v Speaker 1>happening in the plot, But I was still completely drawn

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<v Speaker 1>in to the visual world presented on the film, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Yeah, totally. I mean I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated the plot, especially in the word you lack, But

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<v Speaker 1>through and through it looks pretty great. Another Baba film

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm a fond of is danger Um Diabolique from nine.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a stunning, stylish spy crime yarn starring John

0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Philip Law and Udall False Silly Uh. People might remember

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.560
<v Speaker 1>him as the villain from Thunderball Uh to James Bond film.

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Terry Thomas is also in it. This was featured on

0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Mystery Science Theater three thousand back in the day, and

0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it is indeed quite ridiculous, but stunning from a visual perspective. Basically,

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it has that sixties Bond vibe, focused you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>on comic book crime and then turned up to about

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.399
<v Speaker 1>a thousand Baba style. I think it was actually the

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<v Speaker 1>very last episode of the main run of Mystery Science Theater.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, it was, uh And it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>strange choice there, because I don't know, I would actually

0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.080
<v Speaker 1>argue that movie is not all that bad. I mean,

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it's silly in in a way that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these movies would be silly, but it's also I don't know,

0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:47.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's stylishly executed in a very pleasing way. I mean,

0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the best films on Mystery Science Theater three thousand, and

0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.359
<v Speaker 1>often the best episodes of Mystery Science three thousand revolve

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<v Speaker 1>around movies that are on their own very watchable. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're thinking about Jack Frost. Oh yeah, I think

0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.879
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a great example. They're multiple example. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when I think of my favorite episodes, they're often

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<v Speaker 1>films that that I can and sometimes have watched on

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<v Speaker 1>on on my own, you know, without without the riffing. Now,

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Mario Baba was was again highly influential, and one of

0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.880
<v Speaker 1>his most famous students was Dario Argento. If you've ever

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:23.360
<v Speaker 1>seen Argento's nine seventy seven classics Expiria, then you've certainly

0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>bathed your eyeballs in a very Baba inspired color scheme. Yeah,

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's pretty much unquestionable that Argento picked

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 1>up where Baba left off with the expressive colorful lighting,

0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.199
<v Speaker 1>especially for his Jalo films. M h uh, And I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Mario's son, Lamberto Bava Uh. He directed such films

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that went on to direct such films as Demons, which

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>is excellent, along with a couple of sequels to that

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.479
<v Speaker 1>US devil Fish, which is not so excellent. It's basically

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.479
<v Speaker 1>a Jaws cash in, one of one of many. But

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<v Speaker 1>Lamberto Bava is still making movies. He had a horror

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:06.400
<v Speaker 1>movie starring Gerard de Bardu come out this year really yeah,

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.919
<v Speaker 1>called Twins, I believe, and I had to jack it

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with the Arnold Um movie. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta look that up, all right, let's let's see

0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a few other people involved in this film. Marcello Fondato

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 1>has a screenplay credit, lived two thousand and eight, Italian

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 1>screenwriter and a direct and director, though I don't really

0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:40.919
<v Speaker 1>know any of their films. Um. Then there's Alberto Bivillakua,

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.439
<v Speaker 1>who lived ninety four through two thousand thirteen, has a

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<v Speaker 1>screenplay collaboration credit. Also was a screenwriter on Planet of

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the Vampires, as well as the satanic Panic documentary Witchcraft seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>which was narrated by Jack Palace. Now the film, and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly this comes out in the trailer. The film claims

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<v Speaker 1>that the three stories in it are based upon fictions

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<v Speaker 1>by check Off, Tolstoy, and Snyder. Uh and specifically it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to break down like this, uh the drop of

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Water by Ivan Chekov uh, though seemingly connected to a

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:21.760
<v Speaker 1>story by Franco Lucentini, and then the Telephone by F. G. Snyder,

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 1>And then a story not by not by Leo Tolstoy,

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.120
<v Speaker 1>as that might uh legion to believe, but one by

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Alexei Tolstoy. And this would be the one allegedly by

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<v Speaker 1>Alexei Tolstoy, would be the word lack the one that

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.439
<v Speaker 1>is the one with Boris Karloff in it. Yeah, well

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.879
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Boris Karloff then. Uh. Boris Karlov plays

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Gorka in this and he's also the host. Uh. He

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:51.400
<v Speaker 1>lived eight seven through nineteen sixty nine, a bona fide

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:54.959
<v Speaker 1>cinema legend, going beyond genre films and horror films and

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>weird films. I mean, he's he's just one of these, uh,

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:03.400
<v Speaker 1>these these icons of sin. His horror charisma is unmeasurable

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>in this it's just it's off the screen. Yeah, absolutely. Um.

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Karloff was a British actor born William Henry Pratt. Uh

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know this is very much his stage name.

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Boris Karloff. UM probably is just gonna be ever forever

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 1>associated with Frankenstein because he played the monster in James

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Whale's two adaptation of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Um, and then

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he went on to play the role in other pictures

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 1>as well, including the excellent nineteen thirty five film The

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Bride of Frankenstein. Other key horror films from karl Off

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.159
<v Speaker 1>include thirty two is the Mummy, Uh, thirty four's The

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Black Cat, nineties Black Friday and much more. The Black Cat.

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>He actually stars opposite Belle Legosi, and I think that

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>was the first movie where they had both done that.

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>And I actually haven't seen that one, but I've been

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>meaning to see it for a long time, and apparently

0:23:57.880 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of fun. I've heard great things of

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>about it. I've heard that it's it's it holds up

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>really well, so I have checked that out now. Karloff

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>was also famously the non singing voice of the Grinch

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixty six animated version from Chuck Jones. Um.

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>He's so. The thing about karl Off is that he

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>worked a lot, and even though he's best remembered for

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>his horror roles today, he acted in a wide variety

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>of of of films. He worked stage and screen, he

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>did television. We already mentioned his horror host gigs. Um.

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>He did a lot, Yes, and I will say that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just saw this movie Black Sabbath for the

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>first time this week, and I gotta say this is

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a new favorite Carlof role for me. We'll discuss the

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>details of the word lack in a little bit, but

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:49.159
<v Speaker 1>he plays this wild, hairy, wind blown patriarch of the

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Carpathian mountains, who has this demonic energy and it's so

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 1>so powerful. I don't know exactly how he's doing it,

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>but in every line he feels so at truly like

0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a man just hardened by the wilderness who has met

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>something unspeakable upon the mountaintop. Yeah, he's really able to

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>channel a lot of energy through this role, and it's

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's especially interesting considering that this, again is late

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 1>career Karloff. He was seventy five or seventy six at

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 1>the time when they filmed this. But he's still incredible

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and apparently was just always a pleasure to work with.

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that that Baba singled him out as being

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>just a great guy to work with. Now, another interesting, uh,

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 1>late Karloff film. I don't know if you've seen this one.

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Peter Bogdanovich did a film in nineteen sixty eight

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>called Targets. Yes, I have seen this one, in which

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Karloff essentially plays himself. I mean, he plays a character,

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>but the character he plays is named like uh, named

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>like Doris or Lock or something, and he and he's

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>an aging horror film star and he has to go

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>up against like a crazed mass murderer. Yeah, like he

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>ends up confronting an active shooter at a drive in

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:03.400
<v Speaker 1>movie theater. It's like it's a serious, serious film. Um.

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>From a young Peter Bogdanovitch would of course go on

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to director The Last Picture Show Um, but he was

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>one of Roger Corman's crew at the time, and for

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:16.479
<v Speaker 1>this film, Corman apparently told Bogdanovitch that he could make

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>any kind of film he wanted to. There were just

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>two two things he needed to make sure of. One

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>he had to use stock footage from The Terror and

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>he had to use Boris Karloff for the two days

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of filming that he still owed Corman. But as it was,

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.479
<v Speaker 1>it worked out. Karloff loved the script and shot a

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>total of five days and refused additional pay. Uh. So

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a fun story, but also I remembered as being

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a good movie. I haven't seen it in a long time,

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>but I remember being impressed with it. Yeah. A good

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine showed me this movie many many years ago,

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>back before I really was in the weird house cinema mode.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I didn't know who Roger Corman was at

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the time time or anything, but I remember being very

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>uh enthralled and impressed by it. It's it's a very stark, scary,

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>realistic kind of movie. Uh different than very different than

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the stylish fantasy horror that bore Scarloft did for most

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of his career. Yeah, what should we talk about the

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>personal Mark Damon? Oh? Yeah, as he's introduced in the trailer,

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the personable Mark Damon, I'd say he's he's a he's

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a seven or eight on the personability scale. Yeah, he's

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's the closest that we have to like

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a male hero character in the in the whole picture,

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh plays that cared what Vladimir dirf drf A. He

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>he plays a a count or some kind of aristocrat

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>who rides through this village in the wordy lack again.

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll discuss more of the plot details of

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that in a bit. But yeah, he's the closest thing

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the movie has to sort of a dashing leading man.

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>But even in that story, I don't know if he's

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 1>exactly that, because he comes off to me is in

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 1>that story is kind of glib cal and confused, not

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>really recognizing the weight of the supernatural power he's up

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>against Yeah, he's he's doomed this guy. But Mark Damon

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>is interesting though, because of the first all. He was

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>born nineteen thirty three, still alive as of this recording,

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>UM and still active, not as an actor though at

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>least not since UM. I think he retired in the

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>late seventies or or I'm not sure about the late

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>say at some point in the seventies he retired from acting,

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think a few little bits here and there,

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the most recent being in But he's continued to produce.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>He's been a producer or an executive producer on sixty

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>seven pictures and counting. And those titles that he has

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>has a credit on include dos Boot, The Never Ending Story,

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Clan of the Cave Bear, nine and a half Weeks,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Short Circuit, Flight of the Navigator, The Lost Boys, Beastmaster two, UM,

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>not one but two different Universal Soldier sequels, and and

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>then just a bunch out. So he's seems kind of

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>like a big money player in Hollywood. Maybe he's the

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>producer who came in and demanded that The Lost Boys

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>feature more footage of that saxophone guy. Could be like,

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I want ten minutes a saxophone guy at least now

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>acting wise, Damon was also in Roger Corman's nineteen sixty

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>film House of Usher, which starred Vincent Price, and he

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>has one writing credit. And I found it interesting because

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>it's The Devil's Wedding Night from nineteen seventy three, on

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>which Joe Diamatto apparently did some uncredited directing, uh, which

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>is always a great sign um. And then Damon plays

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>not one, but two different roles in it. Um. So

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I I looked it up. The poster looks fabulous, it

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>looks it looks very nineteen seventies international horror, okay, featuring

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the personable George Eastman. No, there's no no George Eastman

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in this one, though I will say that that that

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Mario Baba directed at least east one film that had

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>George Eastman. I can confirm at least one George Eastman project.

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Was he in Bay of Blood? No, he was in

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>What Rabid Dogs? He might have been in Bay of Blood?

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Um there there there's a little Eastman just sprinkled throughout

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the cinematic universe. Alright, let's talk about some of the

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the other players in the in in in these three

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>different segments. Uh. Now, a lot of these are actors

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not really familiar with, and there aren't a

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of titles that they were in that really connected

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>with me, So there's there's not a lot to really

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>go through here. But let's start with their Susie Anderson,

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>who played uh, what's the what's this character's name stank Stenka,

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>which no offense to people who actually have that name,

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>but in English that name does sound funny because it

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>sounds like stinker. Yeah, but this is a one, This

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>is I guess, our gorgeous love interest for Damon's character.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>She was born ninety Croatian actor who worked during the

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties. And then there's Rica Deliana who plays Maria

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>born in nineteen four. Greek actor with extremely expressive eyes

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>um or at least Mario Blava was able to to

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to shoot her in many scenes where she has really

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>expressive eyes. She's she's the mother, I believe, uh in

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>these sequences and we'll discuss her in a bit, But

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>she had a long career, mostly in Greek cinema and TV. Now,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>these are all actors who were in the WORDERLAC segment um,

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>but there are a couple of other segments of the

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>movie that I guess we've been focusing on lust. Do

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>we want to mention some of the actors in these

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>segments before coming back to describe them. Yeah. So the Telephone,

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>which which will discuss, has a very small cast. The

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>main character is Rosie played by Michelle Mercier, who is

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a French actor who worked across multiple decades, born nine,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>still alive as of this recording. And then the other

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>major character in that is Mary played by Lydia Alfonsi,

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>who was born in ninety eight, also still alive as

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of this recording, Italian actor who was theyve well into

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen nineties. Her last film was the much acclaimed

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Life Is Beautiful from and she also appeared in a

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Steve Reeves Hercules movie in ninety eight. So I don't

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>really love the Telephone. We can explain more about our

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>feelings about the individual segments in a bit. The Telephone

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>was definitely my least favorite of the three, but I

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>do really like Lydia Alfonsi in it because she has

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>does a very good job of acting creepy. Yes, all right.

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And then finally we have the segment the Drop of Water.

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna highlight three different actors in this. Uh. There's

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 1>Jacqueline Peru who lived thousand and five, plays Helen Chester,

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>so she was a French actor actor from the early

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>forties through the nineteen seventies, and she's the mother of

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>French actor and director Jean Pierre Loud, who starred in

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>The Four Hundred Blows. Uh. There's also a character in

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>this that is referred to as the aid, and it's

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>played by Millie no less name. Uh. Millie who lived

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen o five through nineteen eighty was an Italian singer,

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>actress and cabaret performer and apparently something of a pop

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>star of the day. So she she's older when this

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>movie was made. So she she plays a maid who

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of uh comes and goes while the main character

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>played by Jacqueline Peru is is sort of contemplating doing

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>something very ill advised with respect of the spirit world.

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 1>But the maid is this kind of mundane influence, flitting

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>in and out of the room while this deliberation goes on.

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>And then finally there is a neighbor character in this

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>played by Harriet Nadine who lived nineteen fourteen through two

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 1>thousand and five, an American actor who relocated to Italy

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>with the USO after War two. She has a pretty

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>great filmography, with such titles as Death Rays two thousand,

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>which is a fun flick. We've talked about that before,

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>The Witches of Eastwick, Schlaw and The Terminator, and when

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>she plays the role of customer customer where I was

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure I was looking around, you know, short

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of actually watching Terminator again, I'm not sure. I can't

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>imagine she's in the gun. She's probably one of those

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>sequences where the terminator steals a bunch of stuff because

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot, a lot of the Terminator is just him

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 1>robbing places so he can have clothes, robbing people in

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>places so he can have close at guns, or the

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>good guy played by Michael Bean robbing people. Yeah, it's

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>a whole sequence. It's just naked Dud's committing various crimes

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and robberies. Maybe she's walking out of Dick Miller's gun

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>store when Arnold Schwartzenegger is walking in possibility, she rubs

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>she bought the last plasma rifle. I was just remembering

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the part in Terminator that's actually really great. When Schwarzenegger

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>rips that guy out of the phone booth, he doesn't

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>really harm him. It's just a guy on a phone

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>at a phone booth, and and the terminator grabs him

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>by the shoulder and sort of throws him down on

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the sidewalk so he can use the telephone book. Yeah,

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good. And why would would the terminator and

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>machine use any more force or effort than was necessary

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>in any given task. Yeah, and you can hear the

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>guy going, you've got a serious attitude problem. That's good alright. Finally,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>the music on this film is interesting because from one

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>thing you have two different scores. The original score was

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>was by Italian jazz band leader Roberto Nicolosi, but American

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>International Pictures replaced his score with one by Less Baxter,

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>who is, of course the king of exotica, and also

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>later did the minimal electronic score for Frogs. Oh I

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>remember that now? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's it's, I

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>guess it the memorable score, but it's it's not very

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not an exotica score for frogs. And this also

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>is not particularly exotic music either. It's ctainly not electronic. Um.

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 1>But I liked it well enough because I could pick

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>up on some Baxter sensibilities in it. Um, but it

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.439
<v Speaker 1>made I was curious after that because I'm thinking, well,

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>what did it replace? Because we can all think of

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>examples where a score has been replaced by something superior

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 1>on also cases where a score has been replaced by something, um,

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe less effective, uh you know, for a different audience. Um.

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>So I was listening to the Nicolosi score a bit

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 1>and it sounded good as well. I don't know, I

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>liked I like them both. Maybe Baxter score is a

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit more dramatic and a little bit more you know, American.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know. To be honest, I just

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>did not really notice the music much at all, So

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't have much of a comment on it. Yeah,

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would have really looked at

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it that closely had had it not been for the

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Less Baxter connection. Uh, because I have, I do listen

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>to a fair amount of like Less Baxter and some

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 1>like Bossonova music. Uh, generally like very late afternoon. There's

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a point in the late afternoon where, um where you know,

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I have to put aside the synth music and the

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and the rock music and and only Exotica or Bossonova

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>will do the t K drink hour. Yeah, I guess

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>even generally, I'm not I'm not actually having a tiki drink.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm generally like cooking supper or something. Um, but it

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>feels right, it feels appropriate. All right, Now that we've

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 1>got all that out of the way, let's get back

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>into the plot of these three horror stories that look fabulous,

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>have great people in them, but ultimately have some interesting

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>ideas as well. Yeah. Yeah, so I would say, and

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you have you and I may have had some different

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>reactions to these, but I would say that, um, it's

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>this is an interesting movie to recommend because while there

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>are three segments, uh, and in my opinion, one of

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>them is astonishingly good, another is quite good, and the

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 1>third for me, I found kind of boring and unpleasant. Um,

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 1>but there's still I think some interesting things to talk

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>about with it. And while I think that there were

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>different releases of this movie that put them in different

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and orders, the version I saw starts with the one

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of the three that was for me by far the weakest.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>So this would be the Telephone. Ah, yes, the telephone.

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>So the Telephone, unlike the other two, is a more

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>realistic story, and the basic premise is is pretty simple.

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 1>It is a psychological thriller about a young woman who

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.760
<v Speaker 1>is terrorized by a threatening, voyeuristic creep who won't stop

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>calling her on the phone. And so I gotta say

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>this is the one I didn't really super enjoy. I

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>like it picked way up with the second one for

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>me when you get to the word alack. This one

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of has a lot of things I don't really

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>love about Italian horror movies of this period, and not

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>as much of the stuff that I do love. It's

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it's weird because, especially from the trailer, you get the

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>impression that they moved the telephone to the opening because

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>they thought it would connect with audiences more like maybe

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>they thought audiences didn't want that this gothic horror tale.

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Instead they would want something that's tied into technology, and

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, feels more cutting and dangerous. And yet at

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the same time I was reading it sounds like American

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>International Pictures had they asked them to cut down on

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>some of the what they would have probably thought of

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>it as dangerous aspects of the of that of that

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:18.280
<v Speaker 1>opening uh segment um Supposedly a I p asked for

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>lesbian romance. Aspects of the segment to be reduced and

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that a supernatural element h be sort of implied. But

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I have to say, at least in the version I watched,

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>um I mean, I still got the sense that there

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>was some sort of past romantic connection between the two

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>female characters, and I don't remember anything supernatural in this segment.

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>It seemed very based in the real world, though of

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>course through that fabulous Baba lens. Yeah. Well, to be honest,

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>now that I think about it, I'm not sure which

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>version of the movie it was that I saw. One

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.399
<v Speaker 1>thing I've seen comparing them is that the I think

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>it was the original Italian version had the more beautiful colors,

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and that the American release might have had some more

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 1>muted colors. The vision I saw I had very beautiful colors,

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm thinking in the version I saw, of course

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>was in Italian with subtitles, it wasn't the same here.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there is a dubbed version of

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the movie. I think there is, but I didn't I

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 1>was able to find uh as when I rented it.

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I rented it through UM uh Well. I went into

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to Apple and then I did a like a seven

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>day trial of AMC plus and that's how I got

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 1>to watch it. And then when I pulled it up,

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting it to be dubbed, but then I

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>saw that as oh it's in Italian with with no

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>option for other audio channels and just with subtitles. But

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>but I greatly enjoyed it. But I see I see

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>examples of people saying that they grew up watching a

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>version in which they here Boris Karlov's actual voice. So

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.879
<v Speaker 1>that makes me think there is a dubbed version of it,

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 1>But this was not it. So with the telephone, I'd

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>say that I guess I kind of like the simplicity

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>of it. It does proceed at a very slow pace,

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>but then it has some very nice twists in it. Um.

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>It does not have that gothic feel that that the

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>second segment has. Um, you know, it doesn't have that

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>supernatural sense of other worldliness. Uh. The interiors in this

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>segment are, at first glance, a lot more muted. We

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time with beautiful women with perfect

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>skin and kind of porcelain colored garments moving through wedding

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:21.720
<v Speaker 1>cake color departments. Uh. But even this is very finely

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>crafted and wonderfully punctuated by various colorful items in the background.

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you you noticed this or not, Joe,

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>but they'll be like, you know, everything's this kind of

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>wedding cake porcelain world. And then they'll be like one

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>jade statuette on a shelf in the background, and somehow,

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>like through that Mario Baba magic, it makes the whole

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>thing pop. And I don't even notice that. I'm um

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that the pop plot is moving along so slowly because

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just admiring the shot or the red telephone, red telephone. Uh.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>And and then you know, it moves at a slow pace,

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and then alarming things will happen. There's a great um,

0:41:56.520 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 1>creepy eyes peering in through the window of the apartment. Uh.

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 1>That that scene really shook me when I saw it. Oh,

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:08.879
<v Speaker 1>this movie is all about windows. Yeah, windows, mirrors as well,

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 1>but certainly windows. And I think I think you see

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.919
<v Speaker 1>that another Bava films as well, lots of mirrors, people

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>looking through glass, and it makes sense given his um

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>his focus on the visual medium. So I think you

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of raised the idea that this segment is kind

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of a proto Jalo film, and I wanted to explore

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>that idea a little more so for people who aren't familiar.

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Jealo films are a particular sub genre of Italian murder

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>mystery thrillers that were popular in the sixties through the eighties,

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and some of the big name directors of jalo you

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>might recognize our Dario Argento. Uh. Usually his supernatural movies

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>like Suspiria are not usually considered jello films that they

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>share a lot in common with them. Stylistically, Usually jello

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>films are thought to be to have basically realistic causation.

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>They're they're not like about witchcraft and magic and stuff.

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>They're about like a murderer who wields a razor blade

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>or something like what the woman with the crystal is

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>the bird with the crystal plumage, Yeah, bird with the

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>crystal plumage. I mean Argento made these naturalistic jello films

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>as well, Bird with the Crystal Plumage, Deep Red, Cat

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>of Nine Tales, Tenebree. These are all jallow films he did.

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>But other big names in in jalo or Sergio Martino,

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Luccio Fulci, and the director of the movie we're talking

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>about today, Mario Bava. Bava was the director of Blood

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and Black Lace from nineteen sixty four, just one year

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>after Black Sabbath, and I think Blood and Black Lace,

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I think is often considered sort of the archetype of

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the early Jallo movie that a lot of Jallo descends from.

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Blood and Black Lace. I'd love to watch that one

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 1>someday because I'd noticed just today that it has Cameron

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell in it. Oh, that's right, it does. It's been

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>a little while since I've seen it, so I don't

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>remember much in particular about what he does in it.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, anyway, one of the things I noticed is

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that Blood and Black Lace I think has a lot

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 1>of stylistic similarity with the telephone segment in this movie,

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>except the stylization is turned way up. So I'll get

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>back to that in just a minute. But to discuss

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>some of the main characteristics of Jello movies, they very

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:23.360
<v Speaker 1>often feature a murderer who strikes again and again, whose

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>identity is unknown, often masked or with their face hidden

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 1>in shadow, and they will very often wear a similar outfit,

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>like a long trench coat and black gloves and maybe

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a hat. In Jello movies, the murders are usually sort

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of creative or grizzly or of a creepy and squeamish nature.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>So they're usually not just going to be like the

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>killer shoots somebody with a gun. They might kill somebody

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>with a barber's razor or a needle or something. Jello

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>movies also tend to be kind of voyeuristic and sexually charged,

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>often mixing sexuality and violence in an unsettling way, and

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>to varying extents, they tend to be highly stylized. Uh not,

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>not all of the directors are like this, but a

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of them are. They'll use these lurid colors and

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>creative cinematography. This is typically the opposite, by the way,

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>of what I would say are the dominant trends in

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>murder mystery films, say in the United States, which I

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>think are overwhelmingly they tend toward a gritty, realistic or

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.919
<v Speaker 1>muted look with kind of matter of fact camera work.

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like they're trying to make it look like real life,

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 1>whereas Italian jello films tend to love these you know,

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>weird red and purple gel lights and tilted camera angles

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and shots reflected in a mirror and all kinds of

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. To say, nothing of the music. Yeah,

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, famously, like the Argento jello movies have have

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>wonderful scores, usually that you know in both Goblin or

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Argento himself in some way. There's another strange recurring detail

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that I noticed in a lot of Italian jello movies,

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 1>especially the movies of Dario arch Into. But a really

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>common recurring thing is that the protagonist will witness an

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 1>image or a scene early on in the movie that

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>contains some clue that would serve as the master key

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to solving the mystery. And this this scene or this

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 1>memory keeps replaying in their mind, but they're unable to

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>recall or figure out what that key detail is until

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the final resolution. So I think about the museum murder

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>scene in the Bird with crystal plumage, or the face

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in the hallway and deep red and so forth. Interesting.

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>So looking back through this lens, like, is the telephone

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 1>sort of a short form proto Jallo in a way,

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it kind of is it. It has some

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:51.359
<v Speaker 1>of that same naturalistic terror mystery sensibility. It has a

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>clue detail in the room, except the protagonist I don't

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>know if she sees it. I don't think she does,

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but I'm thinking about the zoom in on the eyes

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and the window looking through the blinds, which is very creepy.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 1>It does have that that creepy, voyeuristic and sexually charged

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 1>sensibility which I do not always enjoy in these movies,

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, though it is not as stylized as

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of later Jello, which I would have enjoyed more.

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I kind of wish Boba had played up

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 1>his his visual sense more in this segment, but with

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>blood and Black Lace that comes later. I almost wonder

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>if bab a sort of cross fertilized different parts of

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 1>his own creative process after Black Sabbath, like if he

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>started thinking, Okay, what if I did a story that

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>was more like this said in the modern world. It's

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of a naturalistic mystery terror, uh, like the Telephone,

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>But I filmed it with that other worldly visual sensibility

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that I used in The Worderlack where where everything glows

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>with magic power. Yeah. Interesting, Well, let's talk about the

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the worderlock or the Verdi lock here. Oh yeah, we

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna are, we gonna, we are, We're gonna um what

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>if what should they use in the film? I thought

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I was hearing of the But but we can go

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>either way. I don't think the monster's mind. I'm gonna

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>go let's let's let's assume that's authentic and then try it.

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>We could be wrong. Um, but yeah, how about the

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>vertil ax. So the Verdelac I think, picking up after

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the first segment, which I which I didn't especially love,

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the Vertilac I think is extraordinary. Um, it's this Carpathian

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Gothic tale where these auroras of weird color just dripped

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>from the crags. Like I said earlier, it's a new

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, it goes on my list of favorite Boris

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:38.919
<v Speaker 1>karl Off roles. He plays this shaggy, wild purple Kurt Vonnegut.

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>You notice he looks like uh. And and this whole

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>segment is just full of awesome slavic twang. And this

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Menace of the Hills absolutely wonderful. The visual world that

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Baba creates in here that that maybe isn't noticeable right

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 1>at first, but then just really uh leeches in. He

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>creates this dark domain that is occupied entirely by fog

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:11.879
<v Speaker 1>and ruins and desolate farm houses. Um. Multiple just absolutely

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>creepy scenes and sequences. Uh, yeah, I absolutely loved it.

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you have never watched this film and

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pick it up, I I give you I

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I think you should watch it in its entirety. But

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 1>if you need to, you can go ahead and skip

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the telephone and go straight to this h go straight

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to the vote lock. So to do a very quick

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>plot description on it, I don't want to spoil everything

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>about it, but it begins with the personable Mark Damon,

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 1>who is he plays a an aristocrat, he's a counter

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 1>or something. I don't recall exactly what he is, but

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 1>he's he's riding through the mountains and he's clearly in

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a in a rural, rustic area, and he comes across

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 1>a corpse just lying there by a riverside. And so

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:56.839
<v Speaker 1>this is a corpse that's had its head removed and

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>it has been stabbed through the heart with a very

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>distinctive dagger. And so he's like, oh, I guess I

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>gotta do something about this. So he picks up the

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>corpse and he carries it with him, uh to a

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>nearby village or I don't know if it's even a village.

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 1>It might just sort of be the compound of one family.

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>You know that under the heading of this one patriarch

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 1>in his house. Yea. So yeah, he comes to this

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.360
<v Speaker 1>house out in the mountains and he goes into to

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 1>meet the people who lived there and he says, hey,

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I found this corpse, and immediately they know what's going on.

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.840
<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, yes, that is our father's dagger you

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>found through the heart of this corpse. And that's because

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 1>our father has gone out to kill the wordilac. Or well,

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>let's see, I remember, did they establish the being he

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>was trying to kill they knew was a wordilac or

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>did they just think it was a local highwayman and

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 1>murderer that their father was going out to kill. There

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.279
<v Speaker 1>was sort of blurring in the lines. Yeah, there were,

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.720
<v Speaker 1>There was both, because they're clearly this region is dealing

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 1>with a serious vertilac problem. But then the Verdilac has

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 1>also been identified as a particular individual who is also

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>a notorious highwayman. Right, so from this they conclude, oh, okay,

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>our father succeeded in his quest. You know, he went

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>out into the mountains to find this criminal, this highwayman

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and kill him, and here's his body. But where where's Pop?

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you would think he would have come back

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 1>by now. And uh so the family members here they

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>include the I believe, the two sons and the daughter

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>of Boris Karloff's character, and then the oldest son's wife

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and child as well, And so they tell the story

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.879
<v Speaker 1>while our father went out into the mountains to hunt

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 1>down this this brigand and and possible supernatural menace, the

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>vertiloc and and kill him. And then he but they

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 1>but he warned us, if I come back after five days,

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>don't let me in because then I'm going to be

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a word of lact probably by that time. And there's

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:58.799
<v Speaker 1>a great plot device of ambiguity because when does Boris

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Karloff show up right at the toll of midnight on

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the fifth day, So he's like coming in right on

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the line, and you don't know one way or another. Yeah, though,

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think one of the one of the

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>messages of this this the whole sequence here, is that

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>if Grahampa says he might be a vertiluck, just go

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>ahead and assume he's a verti luck, because it's going

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to be the safer assumption some of you might be wondering,

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>is is a vertilock really a thing. Well, I did

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 1>look it up, and according to Folklori's Carol Rose, who

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 1>often refer to with my monster career careers here, uh,

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>it's it's actually more werewolf than vampire. But in the

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Slavic tradition the two concepts are kind of interlocked. Um.

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>One version at least was that when a werewolf is killed,

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 1>it transforms into a vampire that could then reassume the

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:59.400
<v Speaker 1>form of a wolf and vote luck apparently means wolf's hair. Um.

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.239
<v Speaker 1>But in this movie, what we see is is essentially

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a take on the vampire legend with with a fun twist. Well,

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's fun depending on which end

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 1>of it. If you're just enjoying the horror of it,

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, I guess it's fun. If your character in

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the in the story not so fun. And that is

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that the monster when it comes back, when it takes

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.799
<v Speaker 1>on the form of those that is killed, it's going

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to be drawn most to those that it loved in life.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Those are going to be the ones that it focuses

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>all of its monstrous intensity on. Yeah, this is a

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 1>vampire as betrayer of trust, not just a vampire that

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>needs blood. Anybody's blood just got to have a meal

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of blood. This is a vampire that specifically comes for

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>its loved ones. Yeah, which, Uh, I was thinking about

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>this a little bit because again, the pacing of the

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>film I think invites contemplation and also an enjoyment of

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the visuals. Uh. But like, well, what is wonder what

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:58.320
<v Speaker 1>this this? Uh? The sequence and what this this legend is? Um?

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Like what does it say about like love and bereavement? Uh?

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>You know the twisted way that our our strongest positive

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>emotions can become negative emotions. Uh. And then ultimately, is

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 1>this story advising us not to love anybody because because

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that alone would protect us from monsters? Well, that's a

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:18.600
<v Speaker 1>good question. And then I want to take that a

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 1>step further. A lot of horror movies have very weakly

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>earned love stories where you know, the characters fall in

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.439
<v Speaker 1>love with each other. You don't really see a lot

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.640
<v Speaker 1>of reason for them to fall you know, you don't

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:35.839
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of like scenes of chemistry of them,

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, finding things they like about one another just

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of happens because the script says so this story,

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the Vertiloc has a couple of characters who seem to

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>fall in love with each other very quickly and in

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 1>this sort of weakly justified way. But I wonder if

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:57.240
<v Speaker 1>that's not intentional in this case, uh, saying something about

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:00.359
<v Speaker 1>like falling, you know, loving too easily, and the being

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a kind of danger in that. Yeah. Yeah, the character

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.839
<v Speaker 1>that Damon plays, Um, you do kind of feel that, right,

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like, like, what do you do? You're so in

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 1>your you're in love. You just met her and you're

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 1>so in love with her that you are going to

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 1>risk incurring the wrath of her you know, undead transformed family. Uh,

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it seems it seems foolish, and it seems like, uh,

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 1>as a fool in a short horror work, you are

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be punished for this foolishness. Well yeah, and

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it also says something about family. I think. Because again,

0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:33.399
<v Speaker 1>so this will be a minor spoiler. I don't think

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it will ruin your enjoyment of the segment, which you

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.280
<v Speaker 1>can enjoy even if you read the whole plot ahead

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of time, but warning to spoil the ending. So I

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:43.320
<v Speaker 1>think it is basically the fact that Mark Damon's character,

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 1>he comes in, he very quickly and maybe unjustified, le

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 1>falls in love with Stenka and then Sidenka apparently sort

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:54.280
<v Speaker 1>of reciprocates, you know, she likes him to um. And

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you get the impression that it's interesting that at first

0:55:57.440 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Mark Damon's character is not really threatened by the vers

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>to luck because he's not a member of the family

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and it only wants its own family. But it's once

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 1>she reciprocates his feelings and they fall in love with

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>each other that then he is also subject to the

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>threat of having his blood drank, drink and drunk, uh,

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:18.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, of being attacked by the supernatural creature. It's

0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>once there is a bond of love between him and

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:25.240
<v Speaker 1>her that now he is fair game for this monster. Yeah. Yeah,

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's there's probably something telling and there about attachments. Uh.

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's like he's he clearly

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>is loving strongly and loving deeply um, albeit very briefly.

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh So maybe it's all worth it. It's worth all

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the the english and death because the love was that strong.

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 1>It seems to have there there is a sort of

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 1>a bittersweet romantic element to the to the way this

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 1>this wraps up. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, overall, every

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>everything else we've said about the Vertilock. The atmosphere is

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just amazing, and there are such wonderful scenes of looking

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>out the window and maybe seeing Boris Karloff in his

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>in his purple Kurt Vonnegut with the with the shaggy

0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>furry hood. Oh god, it's just so so good. Oh

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the sequence with the child crying for the mother who's

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 1>super creepy. That one gave me the shivers. Uh oh.

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Another great thing about this sequence is it has a

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>great decapitated head. So at this point in my life

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and my film film Going Life, and I imagine you're

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 1>much the same, Joe, I've seen a vast spectrum of

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 1>decapitated head effects, ranging from just the laughable to the

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, at times shockingly realistic. Um though that that's

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to think of like realistic and non realistic

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>decapitated head effects because I think most all of us

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have anything to judge it against, you know, And

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's ultimately a good thing. We can't really

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>we we don't look at a decapitated head and go like,

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, that's not what a decapitated head looks like.

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I saw a decapitated head this morning to get out

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 1>my faces of death videos, but in any right, there's

0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I love even a hokey beheading effect. But this film

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>has has not one, but two beautifully disturbing corpse head sculpts. Uh.

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And these were actually created by Mario Baba's father, Eugenio Baba,

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>which I thought was interesting that they're They're both absolutely

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>beautiful and of course terrifying. Well, speaking of beautiful and

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>terrifying corpses, we got to also mentioned the third segment

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 1>in this movie, A Drop of Water, which for me,

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the Vertilock is the standout, but a Drop of Water

0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought was also very very good. Uh, and it

0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 1>has I gotta say, one of the creepiest movie corpses

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I have ever seen, along with a wonderful twist and

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 1>some really great set in lighting choices. Yeah, this one

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:54.440
<v Speaker 1>again the telephone things are a little maybe more subdued,

0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>but still pretty pretty brilliant, but subdued for Baba Vertilock

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>colorful and wonder full and out there. This one too

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:05.920
<v Speaker 1>is just just absolutely touching your eyeballs with its with

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 1>its color scheme. Um. Specifically, the thing that stuck with

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.560
<v Speaker 1>me most about the Drop of Water there were two things.

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 1>One is that it has this marvelous, creepy corpse design.

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:22.440
<v Speaker 1>But the other was that the main character in this

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>play is a nurse who lives in an apartment that

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 1>has this oval shaped window, and outside the window is

0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 1>a constantly, gently pulsing green light. And I don't know

0:59:35.800 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 1>what exactly that was supposed to be in terms of realism.

0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:40.439
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a quick shot from outside at first

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 1>where it's raining out and and maybe it's supposed to

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 1>be some kind of rotating sign or something. I'm not

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite positive, but the effect within the apartment

0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>is these pulses of green that are I just love it.

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I want to live in that. Yeah.

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:59.440
<v Speaker 1>That that window is absolutely amazing. It's like a um

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:03.240
<v Speaker 1>horror ontole oval shape and it has this uh this

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:07.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of uh like iron lattice work cross in the

1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:10.720
<v Speaker 1>middle of it. Um. I have never seen anything quite

1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:13.120
<v Speaker 1>like it. And yeah, and then this pulsating lights. So

1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:15.720
<v Speaker 1>this was very much a sequence in the film where

1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I was a little uncertain about, like what

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.320
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be happening, and when you know, what's

1:00:20.320 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be pulling me along character wise or plot wise.

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 1>But I could not look away from that window, and

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it was reminding me of something too, and I realized

1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it was it was reminding me of a scene from

1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the sci fi film Event Horizon, Um, which show which

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I know you've seen as well, Joe. Uh, there's a

1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:43.320
<v Speaker 1>sequence where there is a corpse floating aboard the Event

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Horizon spaceship and it's floating in front of this cross

1:00:47.080 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>shaped window that has kind of bluish greenish uh space

1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:54.200
<v Speaker 1>lights pulsating behind it, And you think it was influenced

1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:57.440
<v Speaker 1>by this short. I wonder if it was, because, for

1:00:57.440 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>for for starters, Event Horizon is a film that is

1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:03.560
<v Speaker 1>not shy about taking inspiration from other films. I love it,

1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:06.440
<v Speaker 1>but like you, like, you see the DNA of these

1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:10.400
<v Speaker 1>other films in it. Um, it's all about that and

1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:14.040
<v Speaker 1>uh so yeah, I'm wondering if the cinematographer an Event Horizon,

1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:16.880
<v Speaker 1>an individual by the name of Atrian Biddle, who worked

1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:19.800
<v Speaker 1>on Aliens and Judge Dread and various other films. I

1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:23.560
<v Speaker 1>wonder if this particular scene is kind of a nod

1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to Baba, because it, uh, it feels Baba asked um,

1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, it feels it feels like it might be

1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a slight tip of the hat. Event Horizon could be

1:01:32.600 --> 1:01:34.680
<v Speaker 1>an interesting movie to come back to because I find

1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it to be a very uh, very strange and an

1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:43.439
<v Speaker 1>unusual combination of very inspired and very hack. Yeah, yeah,

1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean. Yeah, there's a there. I

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:49.000
<v Speaker 1>loved Event Horizon when it came out, and then uh,

1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:51.840
<v Speaker 1>when I rewatched it several years ago, there were still

1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:54.000
<v Speaker 1>things I absolutely loved about it, but some things were

1:01:54.040 --> 1:01:57.080
<v Speaker 1>like I kind of sighed and groaned at but still

1:01:57.120 --> 1:01:59.000
<v Speaker 1>but it has a place in my heart. Well, I

1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:01.400
<v Speaker 1>guess you could say, much like The Telephone. The plot

1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:05.320
<v Speaker 1>of A Drop of Water is pretty straightforward. So a

1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:09.600
<v Speaker 1>nurse uh is called out to the apartment of a

1:02:09.880 --> 1:02:12.000
<v Speaker 1>woman that she has been taken care of who has

1:02:12.080 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>just died, and this woman apparently was involved in the occult.

1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they say that she died during a seance,

1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.120
<v Speaker 1>and so then the nurse must go into the room

1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:24.720
<v Speaker 1>where her her dead body is laying and helped prepare

1:02:24.800 --> 1:02:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the corpse. But when she goes into the room, she

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<v Speaker 1>notices that the the cadaver here has a has a splendid,

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<v Speaker 1>very expensive looking piece of jewelry on it, a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>ring that has maybe a sapphire in it or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and she looks at it and it's like, well, is

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<v Speaker 1>this just you know, is this ring going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to waste? Is this expensive piece of jewelry just going

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<v Speaker 1>to go into a coffin and then rotting the ground?

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<v Speaker 1>I could grab that thing and take it with me

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<v Speaker 1>and then uh, and you you get the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>the nurse is sort of living in poverty like that

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<v Speaker 1>she could she could use a big cash in at

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<v Speaker 1>the pawn shop, um to put over that to be window. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly sleep at night. Um. So she grabs the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course I don't know if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>grab the ring off the corpse of a lady who

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<v Speaker 1>just died while being involved with the occult right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so the rest of this segment has some wonderful uh

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<v Speaker 1>scenes of the haunting of a guilty conscience. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's also an excellent twist at the ending of of

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<v Speaker 1>this segment to Yeah, i've kind of downplayed the like

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<v Speaker 1>the plotting of Baba films, I guess in general here

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<v Speaker 1>but but but yeah, I think all three sequences have

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<v Speaker 1>some some fun um, some some fun plot twists and

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<v Speaker 1>some fun developments. Uh. You know that you you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know where everything's gonna go, and things don't follow

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<v Speaker 1>a clearly defined path, which which is rather pleasurable. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, as we were saying at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>or horror anthologies are often kind of you know that

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<v Speaker 1>your different segments are going to be of different quality.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say, after, I guess if we're wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>up here at the end, I really enjoyed two out

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<v Speaker 1>of three segments. But if you only check out one

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<v Speaker 1>of the segments from this movie, definitely I would say

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<v Speaker 1>the Vertilac, the Vertilac, Vertilac. Yeah, come for the verti

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<v Speaker 1>loc stay for the drop of water, uh, and find

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<v Speaker 1>something to love in the telephone. Oh. But then also

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<v Speaker 1>we should we have to put come back to our

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<v Speaker 1>host here because one of the fun things about the

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<v Speaker 1>American International Pictures um A release of it is that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we we added us this intro bit from Boris Karloff. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently they filmed some segments of Boris Karloff that

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<v Speaker 1>would have gone between each of the segments, but they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't use those. So we just go from segment one

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<v Speaker 1>to segment two to segment three. But then when segment

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<v Speaker 1>three ends, we come back to Boris Karloff. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>weirdly enough, he's he's like in his his he seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be in costume from the Verdi lock. He's riding

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<v Speaker 1>a horse, but he has this kind of almost crip

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<v Speaker 1>keeper esque um uh, you know, jovial atmosphere about him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't even remember what he's telling us because

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<v Speaker 1>as he's saying, you know, wrapping up for everybody, we

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<v Speaker 1>pan out and we have this kind of um um,

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<v Speaker 1>holy mountain moment where we pan out and we see

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a set. We see a cameraman, we see

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<v Speaker 1>people holding up these bushes that are supposed to be um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, rushing past him as he rides this horse,

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<v Speaker 1>and we see that the horse itself is just a

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<v Speaker 1>saddle on, like a fake horse rump that's that's being

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<v Speaker 1>put into motion. Uh. And it's such a weird ending.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about It's like, why why did we

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<v Speaker 1>punctuate this film Black Sabbath, this trio of horrifying tales,

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<v Speaker 1>each with a dark ending? And I was wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>it was because they thought, well, you know, nineteen three

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<v Speaker 1>audiences don't want to go home feeling depressed. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to go home with a smile on their face. So

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<v Speaker 1>we need this, Uh, we need a fund ending, we

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<v Speaker 1>need we need Boris Karla reminding them that it's all

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<v Speaker 1>just a movie. It's no, none of this is real.

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<v Speaker 1>Um it's it was weird. Yeah, I'm not really sure

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<v Speaker 1>what motivated that ending. Maybe you just yeah, like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>cinnemon with a smile on their face. But I loved

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<v Speaker 1>it or Rachel and I both really appreciated the pulling

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<v Speaker 1>back to see especially the best part of it for

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<v Speaker 1>me was the people running around with the potted plants

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<v Speaker 1>to move them in front of the camera to simulate

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<v Speaker 1>the horse actually traveling through stuff in the foreground. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's something I guess thinking to other horror host environments,

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<v Speaker 1>like you need to do one of two things. Either

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<v Speaker 1>you have the horror host punctuate the terror or the

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<v Speaker 1>cerebrial nature of it, you know, like the the voiceover

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<v Speaker 1>for the Outer Limits is all about really driving home

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<v Speaker 1>the serious message of the piece, um, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you're watching twilight Zone, it's all about reminding you

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<v Speaker 1>of how dark and mysterious things really are. But the

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<v Speaker 1>crypt Keeper, he just comes back to make several punny

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<v Speaker 1>jokes and uh and so you know what Karlof is

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<v Speaker 1>doing here is very much in the crypt keeper mode

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<v Speaker 1>of of lightening the mood. I feel, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go ahead close this one out, but we

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<v Speaker 1>recommend everybody. Yeah, this is the Halloween season, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you need a nice gothic atmospheric film to to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>check out Black Sabbath. Um. This is also a fine one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just to play visually in the background. If

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<v Speaker 1>you just want some really strong visuals, this one's this

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<v Speaker 1>one's good to go. Um. Black Sabbath is widely available

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<v Speaker 1>for digital rental or purchase. Again, I watched it on

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<v Speaker 1>an Apple TV by doing a free preview of AMC Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also widely available on disc and cleaning, including

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<v Speaker 1>Keno Classics. They have a blu ray of it, though

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I will leave the research to you figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out what version you're about to purchase or rent, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we both watched the Italian language version subtitled, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think there is a dubbed version as well. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the availability on that is. I can't speak

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<v Speaker 1>to it personally. I can't comment on that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think there are different versions that have different levels

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<v Speaker 1>of sort of color saturation and all that. Try to

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<v Speaker 1>find one with the really intense colors. Yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>most part of thing. Yeah, the colors speak volumes. The

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<v Speaker 1>colors speak in ways that the dialogue and the subtitles

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<v Speaker 1>are going to are going to pale in comparison to

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<v Speaker 1>all Right, we'll be We'll be back next week with

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<v Speaker 1>another I think thoroughly Halloween e selection. But in the meantime,

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