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Speaker 1: It is officially Super Bowl Week. Welcome Bird Gang. On

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Speaker 1: today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. Yeah, we'll talk forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers chiefs. First, though the Pro Bowl, Danny was

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Speaker 1: there with Budda Baker had a chance to speak with

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals' longest tenured defensive player. What did he have

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Speaker 1: to say? Also, every head coaching vacancy has been filled.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals will play five of the eight teams with new

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Speaker 1: head coaches. Plus they'll see a familiar face on one

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Speaker 1: of those sidelines. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven five,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Budda Baker?

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Speaker 2: What Heart? What rent?

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Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's a ten half of five. He's it again? So

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Speaker 1: far Purry Magic?

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig griolut.

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Speaker 1: So. First things first, welcome back the last time we

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Speaker 1: spoke here on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. You were well you had

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Speaker 1: not packed yet yet even looked at the weather forecast.

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Speaker 1: But you are on your way to Orlando for the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl with Buddha Baker. And before we get into that,

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Speaker 1: I do need to say something that, upon reflection, the

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Speaker 1: whole Trey McBride not being there because we had a

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Speaker 1: conversation that certainly deserving, did not happen. Cowboys tied end.

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Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson replaced George Kittle, who is now in the

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas ready for the Super Bowl, So that was

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Speaker 1: the replacement player in the NFC. I still think Tray

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Speaker 1: should have been there, but it was darn Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I know. I appreciate your kind words to welcome me back.

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Speaker 3: If you were curious about the weather, it was surprisingly

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Speaker 3: I'll even go so far as to say nice because

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Speaker 3: it didn't rain and it wasn't as humid as I

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Speaker 3: was expecting it. Well, that's good, I know.

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Speaker 1: Did you overpack? Not sure what to pack?

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Speaker 3: No? I actually packed pretty well. I packed pretty well

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Speaker 3: and I didn't overpack, which is unusual for me. So

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Speaker 3: I packed just the right amount of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So you didn't fit everything in just one backpack or

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Speaker 1: have well.

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Speaker 3: I had one suitcase to carry on and then I

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Speaker 3: brought my work backpack because I needed that to go

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Speaker 3: to the stadium to bring some stuff. Okay, well, we

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Speaker 1: I've seen some of it and burg Gang you might

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Speaker 1: have seen some of it as well. Sideline exchanged, Danny

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Speaker 1: had a chance to speak with Buddha, and then earlier

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Speaker 1: on Monday, Buddha Baker White miked up for one of

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Speaker 1: those NFC practices. So that certainly has already been posted.

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Speaker 1: And I'm been told before we hit that record button

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Speaker 1: that Danny didn't just do that. She worked extra hard

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Speaker 3: And Matthew Vaski, our video producer who went out, did

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Speaker 3: a great job. Yeah, we got a few things still

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Speaker 3: But yes, Buddha was great. It's it was my first

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Speaker 3: That conversation started because Julian Love from Seattle was talking

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Speaker 3: And then he was kind of looking at the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: By the way, CEEDE Lamb three touchdowns in the flag

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Speaker 3: But also go play by Derrick Henry. Yes, he saw

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Speaker 3: I appreciate what the league is doing to try and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it did have the interception, so we did contribute

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Speaker 1: because the difference eighty eight thousand for the winners, forty

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Speaker 1: Again, Buddha Bay making his sixth Pro Bowl, fifth in row,

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Speaker 3: There's more than just the stats in a lot of positions.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen it a number of times when Buddha

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Speaker 3: That says a lot. Two thirds of the votes to

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Speaker 3: Now we've talked about there were still a handful of

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Speaker 1: The only number that Budda Baker does care about is

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Speaker 1: There were conversations that happened, and the Cardinals did right

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Speaker 3: still feels that way and that's something that's expressed. He

435
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Speaker 3: might not express it publicly if he does still feel

436
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 3: that way. But again, after the year that the Cardinals

437
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 3: had not talking about just four wins, but what we

438
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Speaker 3: saw from this team, from this defense and the fight

439
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 3: that they have in the foundation that's been set, you

440
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: could see an extension this year. This would be the time.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't have, in my opinion, made sense last year

442
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: with two years on the deal, especially because of that,

443
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 3: the kind of precedent that a new general manager wants

444
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 3: to set usually not now going into a contract year.

445
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting if this becomes a bigger topic in

446
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: the offseason, if either side kind of becomes vocal about it,

447
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 3: and if something is done. I'm not sure the difference

448
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Speaker 3: of last year to this year in terms of a

449
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: trade value or if that's something that Cardinals are even

450
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 3: interested in, but I would think that if Buddha happens

451
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: to still feel the same way, we'll hear about it

452
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Speaker 3: within the next couple weeks.

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Speaker 1: I do think something happens again, whether that's an extension

454
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Speaker 1: or something done to the contract as it is, or

455
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Speaker 1: hopefully not but Buddha Baker is traded again. These are

456
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Speaker 1: all options on the table. I do think something gets done,

457
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Speaker 1: just because of the fact that you talk about the

458
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: salary cap and Buddha's cap. Hit is the third highest

459
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Speaker 1: on the team. And typically when you're looking for more

460
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: money to spend in free agency or trying to figure

461
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: out how do I fit everything under the salary cap?

462
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Speaker 1: So you address certain things, you change contract terms, you

463
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Speaker 1: turn things into the signing bonus so you give more

464
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Speaker 1: money up front, and then you kind of, as they say,

465
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: kick the can down the road. You're never satisfied with

466
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Speaker 1: where your salary cap is as a general manager, you

467
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: just try to make it more manageable immediately and then

468
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Speaker 1: kind of with one eye, kind of look towards you

469
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: tomorrow's problem, right exactly. Yeah, everyone does it in all

470
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Speaker 1: walks of life.

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Speaker 3: See, maybe that would make me a good gem is.

472
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Speaker 3: I'm not very good at maths. So if you just

473
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Speaker 3: tell me I can do this now and then worry

474
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Speaker 3: about all that later.

475
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Speaker 1: Yeah, your tomorrow self. Yeah sure, today's say problem. Yes, sure, sure.

476
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Speaker 1: So something to keep an eye on as we continue

477
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Speaker 1: to get further and further into the off season. Obviously,

478
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Speaker 1: this is Super Bowl week, you got the scouting combine

479
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: and then free agency begins. And speaking of Super Bowl Week,

480
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers Chiefs both in Las Vegas. Monday, NYE

481
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Speaker 1: is opening nights where everyone and their mom basically get

482
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Speaker 1: to go to allegiate stadium if you want, can figure

483
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Speaker 1: out a credential. I don't even know how many different

484
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: media members are credentialed, and maybe even some non media members.

485
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Speaker 1: But it's always an entertaining night, if you will, maybe

486
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Speaker 1: even more so considering that it's in Las Vegas, Paly.

487
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Speaker 3: A week in Vegas, Craig, A week in Vegas, isn't

488
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Speaker 3: the max supposed to be like forty eight hours?

489
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Speaker 1: Yes, Now, coaches and players that are participating in the game, they're.

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Speaker 3: So far, I would say, very far. At least well

491
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Speaker 3: we are. For the Pro Bowl, they very wisely had

492
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Speaker 3: everybody as far away from the strip as possible, so

493
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Speaker 3: I would imagine it's probably the same setup for the

494
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Now I understand you're headed.

496
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Speaker 3: Sure, I am not for a week. I could not

497
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 3: handle that. I couldn't handle that emotionally, physically, financially, No way, Jose.

498
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 3: I am going for two days. That is my plan.

499
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: It's just it's close enough to where I can drive

500
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: and not have to buy an outrageously priced plane ticket

501
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: to go see some colleagues, just kind of network and

502
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: meet new people and kind of just experience that we

503
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 3: did get to experience a little last year when he

504
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: was Arizona. But you know, we are working some of

505
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: the events and things of that nature, and again mostly

506
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: just because it's close enough to where I can make

507
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Speaker 3: it work. And I've got a good number of friends

508
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: who are going, most of them to work in some

509
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: capacity for whichever, you know, organization they work for. Others

510
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: are also just kind of going for fun. So I'm

511
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Speaker 3: excited again. The plan is to not be there for

512
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Speaker 3: longer than forty eight hours, so I'm not even planning

513
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Speaker 3: on staying through the game. I want to watch that

514
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Speaker 3: on a couch comfortably.

515
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: It's become what many people do if you're there for

516
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: a week or four or five days. Is everyone Boltstown

517
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: Saturday because traffic, because.

518
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: Everyone else leave if you're listening, leave Sunday.

519
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you leave Saturday or first thing Sunday morning because

520
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: everyone wants to watch the game if you're not attending

521
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: the game. But yeah, all the extra activities surrounding the game.

522
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: By the way, a year ago you mentioned it, this

523
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: game was in our backyard. That doesn't feel like a

524
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: year ago. I know it feels like five years ago,

525
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: ten years ago, but it wasn't that long ago.

526
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: It was not. The only thing now I'm missing is

527
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: waste management open? Are you going the people's open crow?

528
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I am not going this show at all. And hopefully,

529
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: knock on wood, the weather holds up this week and

530
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: everyone what's supposed.

531
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Speaker 3: To rain this weekend, isn't it?

532
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least early in the week, middle of the week.

533
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: That's not going to stop everyone at whole six tear not.

534
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: No, of course not.

535
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: That would be a sight to see in the rain.

536
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure that would be fun.

537
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Speaker 1: By the way, it's early in the week of Super

538
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: Bowl week. But the biggest controversy so far have you

539
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: seen this? Uh?

540
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: Maybe not?

541
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: The San Francis Go forty nine ers, according to reports,

542
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: are unhappy with the field conditions in which they will

543
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: be practicing at un l V. Apparently the grass is

544
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: too soft.

545
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: That is that the new thing? Weren't people complaining about

546
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: that out here in Arizona?

547
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: Field conditions everything needs to be perfect, no excuses.

548
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: I understand. This is the highest level and you want

549
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: to have the best of the best, especially before the

550
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: biggest game of not only the year, but a lot

551
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: of players' careers. But you're right, at some point, like

552
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: can you not practice on on the grass that they

553
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: have out there for you? It's it's not like they're

554
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: not prepping this and they're you know, expecting these these

555
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: teams to come out there.

556
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Apparently un LV has like field turf, but they put

557
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: grass on top of the turf and it's just too soft. Again,

558
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: maybe this is all enough for.

559
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Speaker 3: The San Francisco forty nine Ers, Craig, Is that what

560
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: you're Is that what you're telling me?

561
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I'm just telling you right now here. It's

562
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Speaker 1: day one of Super Bowl Week and this is the

563
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: big topic of discussion, not the game. By the way,

564
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers Chiefs? Who do you like? We've already

565
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: I've already made myself very clear that I want no

566
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: part of the forty nine Ers winning this game.

567
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: I know. It's just are we tired of seeing the

568
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: Chiefs win? I guess I do.

569
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: I have to pick a team well can't end and

570
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: to tie, so we don't have that. So I don't

571
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: know someone's going to win this.

572
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: I guess I'll pick the Chiefs.

573
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: Okay.

574
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: Ugh, I don't really want either team to win, to

575
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: be honest, Okay, but I'll go with the Chiefs. I

576
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: feel like, well, it's interesting. I feel like the forty

577
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: nine Ers do a nice job where regardless of how

578
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: the game kind of starts or where they see themselves

579
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: at halftime, they do a nice job of staying consistent

580
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: and true to their identity and who they are and

581
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: not abandoning the run, especially if they're behind. I think

582
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: it all kind of comes down to ball security and

583
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: accuracy of quarterback. Brock Party and what kind of game

584
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: he has is kind of what it comes down to

585
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: for the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs, I mean,

586
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, they find a way to get

587
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: the job done no matter how much time has left,

588
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: how many points they're behind, whatever it might be, you

589
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: can never count them out.

590
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are expecting a high

591
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: scoring game or at least points late twenties, you know,

592
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: in the thirties, but you forget that the Chiefs and

593
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, those are two of the top three

594
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Speaker 1: scoring defenses and the league. And maybe a big reason

595
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: why these teams are where they're at is because of

596
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Speaker 1: the defense and the ability to shut down the other

597
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: team's best offensive weapons. So I'm not saying it's going

598
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: to be thirteen to ten or seven to six. I

599
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: think everyone would be surprised by that. But that's kind

600
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: of a storyline that is not going to get a

601
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: lot of attention just because it's always about the quarterbacks

602
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: and the pass catchers, the skill players, and that's where

603
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: everyone focuses their attention.

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Speaker 3: If you're a Raiders fan, is this the worst possible

605
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: having the Chiefs come to town and playing a Super

606
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: Bowl in your stadium?

607
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: How about this? Not only that, not only your heated

608
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: rival within your division. Once upon a time, the forty

609
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: nine Ers and Raiders were basically right across the bridge

610
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: from one and that basically they were across the bridge

611
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: from each other in the Bay Area. There was some

612
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: good times and there were some bad times. But now

613
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: in Al Davis's stadium, he's got the forty nine Ers

614
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs.

615
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: He's also gonna have Taylor Swift Craig.

616
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: Perhaps you can make it back from Tokyo.

617
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: Honestly, you know it's gonna be the most impressive part

618
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: of the Super Bowl as when they show on the broadcast.

619
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: The people who are spending no exaggeration of million dollars

620
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: to have those seats on the field, those where it

621
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: looks like a club and you've got the fancy food

622
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: and the granite countertops and the plush chairs, and you've

623
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: got a TV in front of you. If you don't

624
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: feel like looking up six inches to look right out

625
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: in front of you onto the field, that's gonna be

626
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: the most impressive part. Seeing everybody who can afford which,

627
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: of course it's Vegas, plenty of people can afford it,

628
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 3: but seeing people who can afford those suites. I actually

629
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: saw online last week Christian McCaffrey's mom was talking about

630
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: how like they're not even getting a suite because despite

631
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: how much Christian McCaffrey makes and his fiance who's a

632
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: big time model though, she was like, the sweets are

633
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: so expensive.

634
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Those on field suites or field level suites, some of

635
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: those I just don't know if that's a good place

636
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: to watch a game.

637
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: Because you know why they're there.

638
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: Oh no, I get that, but if you're if you're

639
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: going to spend the money, I want to at least

640
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: be able to watch the game. And if there's traffic

641
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: in front of me, which is basically just a bunch

642
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: of feet, you know, people are standing in my I'm

643
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: looking out, my eyes are just seeing legs. I mean,

644
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: that's right.

645
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: I think it's at least high up enough to where

646
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: you will hopefully be able to see over you're talking

647
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: about like photographers and videographers and those people.

648
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Just like regular you know, league personnel, or depending on

649
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: what the suites are, you've got players just you know

650
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: they're not moving.

651
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: I still think those are better than some stadiums that

652
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: have the suites where you are technically below ground level,

653
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: so you really are eye level with people's feet and ankles,

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Speaker 3: and you have to look about the JumboTron.

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Speaker 1: No better venue than State Farm Stadium.

656
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Speaker 3: Though, that's what we're getting at.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

658
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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking to State Farm Stadium and next

659
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Speaker 1: season the home schedule, oh boy, someone's coming back to

660
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Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium.

661
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: Tell me who's coming to town beside Santa Craig.

662
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Speaker 1: I like what you did there, Easter Bunny. No, this

663
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: was fascinating on how it all played out, because I

664
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Speaker 1: believe it was while you are in Orlando.

665
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Speaker 3: On I was getting the alerts.

666
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Speaker 1: Though Cliff Kingsbury reportedly was said to become the Raiders

667
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Then on Saturday, he withdrew from consideration per

668
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: his agents, and then all of a sudden he became

669
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Speaker 1: a hot name with the Washington Commander's OC job, and

670
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: then Monday it's a official. Cliff Kingsbury is the offensive

671
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: coordinator of the Washington Commanders, and the Commanders come to

672
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Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: That's what it was. If Cliff Kingsbury went to Vegas,

674
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: he would have had to wait until twenty twenty six

675
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: to come to State Farm Stadium. But now going to

676
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Speaker 3: Washington under new head coach Dan Quinn, he gets to

677
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Speaker 3: come here in twenty twenty four. He must really miss us.

678
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Speaker 1: See some familiar faces.

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Speaker 3: Here's the interesting part, besides him just landing a job

680
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 3: back in the NFL after being with USC this past

681
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: year and getting to face the Cardinals in his return,

682
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 3: what does this mean for the draft? Because everybody's right,

683
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: the wheels are spinning one hundred miles per hour because

684
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 3: the whole talk is around USC quarterback Caleb Williams. Chicago

685
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 3: has the first overall pick, Washington has second. The question

686
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Speaker 3: is do the Bears want a quarterback or are they

687
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: going to keep justin fields? And if they want a quarterback,

688
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: is it Caleb Williams. Well, Cliff Kingsbury has got plenty

689
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: of experience if he fiegals that Caleb Williams could be

690
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: the type of starting quarterback that he would want as

691
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 3: the OC in Washington and everybody's on the same page there,

692
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: does Washington trade up from two to one with Chicago

693
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Speaker 3: and the draft and which case leaves you two options

694
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Speaker 3: if they want a quarterback. It depends on if they

695
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: feel like there are two quarterbacks where they feel like

696
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: they could win either way. It's kind of the discussion

697
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: with CJ. Stroud and Bryce Young. I feel like, of

698
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: you have two good options, which one do you want

699
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: to go with? Maybe if Chicago feels good enough about

700
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks, they would be okay dropping down a spot

701
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: and landing with one of those quarterbacks. If Chicago doesn't

702
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: want a quarterback, Craig, this is where it could affect

703
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, who, according to a lot of mock drafts,

704
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: are landing Ohio state wide receiver Marvin Harrison junior. And

705
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: if Chicago doesn't want a quarterback, they could absolutely use

706
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: a top wide receiver, Craig.

707
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Speaker 1: Everyone likes to connect dots around this time fast or

708
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: go back in twenty nineteen when Cliff Kingsbury hired as

709
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Speaker 1: Cardinals head coach, and that video surface of Cliff at

710
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: Texas Tech saying I would draft Kyler Murray number one

711
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: if I had the first overall pick.

712
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: But then what do you say when he came to

713
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: the Cardinals.

714
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: Well, it was at that time Josh Trozen's my guy,

715
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: and then it was four. Now right now, and then

716
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: obviously Kyler Murray is the first pick of the Arizona Cardinals.

717
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Now it's because of Cliff's connection with Caleb Williams at

718
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: USC where he was an offensive analyst for the Trojans

719
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: last season, and now at number two. If you're the Commanders,

720
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: do you like Caleb Williams that much? Did you like

721
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: him that much before hiring Cliff Kingsbury? Do you like

722
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: him now more after hiring Cliff Kingsbury? And then as

723
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: you talked about, okay, well, if the Chicago Bears just

724
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: moved back a spot, they can still draft a quarterback

725
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: or is some other team in the mix for those

726
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: first three positions before the Cardinals hear their name on

727
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: the clock. It's going to be a fascinating conversation and

728
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: debate over these next several weeks until we get to April,

729
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: because the top three teams all need quarterbacks, Cardinals don't

730
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: and could have their pick at the best player overall,

731
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: who many believe is Marvin or maybe it's a player

732
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: at another position of need ie offensive line.

733
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Speaker 3: I think it'll be interesting to see Kingsbury work as

734
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator. I think in hindsight that probably would

735
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: work better for him. I think maybe being a head

736
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: coach of just having to have your hand kind of

737
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: in everything. He's such an offensive minded coach. It'll be

738
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 3: interesting to see again, depending on which quarterback Washington ends

739
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: up drafting and using for the future, it'll be interesting

740
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: to see him kind of work as just an OC

741
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: and not have to worry about everything else and have

742
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: a defense and minded head coach. And dan Quinn coming

743
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: from Dallas, where he was the DC for the last

744
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: couple of years, I know that there was rightfully so

745
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: a lot of frustrations when Kingsbury was here in terms

746
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: of game management or creativity or you know, running the

747
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: ball and kind of more that style. I can't foresee

748
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: him having a different style than how he liked to

749
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 3: call plays when he was here in Arizona. So It'll

750
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: be interesting to see how he does out in Washington.

751
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: Has his offensive philosophy shifted as all, if at all,

752
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: as far as shotgun versus under center, That will be

753
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: interesting to see. But to your point, when you're the

754
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: head coach, you have a number of different things cross

755
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: your desk. As a coordinator a position coach, very little

756
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: crosses your plate as far as everything else. Is this better?

757
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: Is Cliff better suited to be a coordinator at the

758
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: NFL level? Never thought he was going to go back

759
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: to college outside of just you know, an offense of

760
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: his career, not back as a head No, no, no, just

761
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: because as much as he complained everything else that he

762
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 1: had to deal with. But now he can focus on

763
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: what he likes to do. Watch film, draw it plays.

764
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: How many times did we walk by his office if

765
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: he was in there, there was film being watched. He

766
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: was sitting there diagramming, doing something. And now he can

767
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: just focus strictly whoever the quarterback is, whoever he will

768
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: be working with. But now this might be the perfect

769
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: situation for Cliff even if it was with the Raiders,

770
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Speaker 1: I'd be saying the same thing because he can now

771
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Speaker 1: just focus on one side of the football as opposed

772
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Speaker 1: to both and then have everything else come at number

773
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Speaker 1: of different directions.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I think again, it'll be interesting to see.

775
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 3: It wouldn't really surprise me if he does find success.

776
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: Kind of more so now being having that niche of

777
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: just really calm plays and working with the offense. Interesting

778
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: to see. Whenever they come to State Firm Stadium. Do

779
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: you think that Warren's like a Week one matchup that

780
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 3: head to head of Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray and

781
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Speaker 3: the return.

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Speaker 1: I wonder when you because there are three first year

783
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: head coaches that the Cardinals will play this season. There's

784
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald with the Seahawks, Dave Knelis with the Panthers,

785
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: and Rod Mao with the Patriots. Now you got Jim Harbaugh.

786
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Speaker 1: He's been a head coach before, Dan Quinn a head

787
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: coach before. But when you're walking into a new situation,

788
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Speaker 1: is it better to see these teams early in the year,

789
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Speaker 1: whether they're still trying to figure things out, or later

790
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: in the season when you actually have some tangible game

791
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: film on what they like to do offensively or defensively.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I think there are advantages and

793
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: disadvantages to both. I would think it would benefit the

794
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: Cardinals more so seeing those coaches later in the year.

795
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: You have some film I think kind of similarly almost

796
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: to the Cardinals this past year of right, we saw

797
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: some flashes early on, and then it kind of felt

798
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 3: like as the season went on. Not to say that

799
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: the Cardinals weren't getting in their own way, but it

800
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: did seem like whoever they were playing had a better

801
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 3: idea of what to expect offensively and defensively from this team.

802
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: The good news is, and if the Commanders are successful

803
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 1: as an offense under Cliff, you only get to see

804
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: them once this season and then you won't see them.

805
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: For a while.

806
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't know what the rotation is,

807
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: but it's not like you face the Commanders every single

808
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: season like you do Seahawks forty nine Ers twice a year.

809
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: So you do have that going for you. And earlier

810
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: on Monday, Dan Quinn, officially introduced as the Commander's head coach,

811
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: talked about hiring Cliff reminds him of this of the

812
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: decision when he hired Kyle Shanahan as the OC oh

813
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: Boy in Atlanta.

814
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Speaker 3: Oh boy, we're about to get a so oh man,

815
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 3: a Cliff Kingsbury tree. Is that what's next?

816
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm happy for Cliff. I'm glad he's

817
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: getting another opportunity. He again, I can only I can

818
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: only judge people how they treat me, and Cliff treated

819
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: me very well. He was always polite, and I think

820
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: he did a lot for this Arizona Cardinals team and

821
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: certainly our department. So I got nothing bad to say

822
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: about the man, the coach. Yes it didn't end well here,

823
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: but again that's nothing against Cliff Kingsbury.

824
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: The person agreed same in terms of interacting as a

825
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 3: person and then as a media department. Just the access

826
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: and what we got from him and his staff and

827
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: his players all that. Yeah, absolutely very grateful for what

828
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: we got when he was here.

829
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Speaker 1: Be good to see Cliff.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he looks the same.

831
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he does. And actually I'm actually kind of

832
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: glad it's not the Raiders because to your point, now

833
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: you get to see him this season as opposed to

834
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Speaker 1: waiting until whatever I think Darren Urban figured it out.

835
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Speaker 1: If it was the Raiders, it would have been like

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Or twenty three eight. Yeah, I was I think twenty

838
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 3: twenty six here in Arizona, then twenty thirty in Vegas.

839
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Speaker 1: That's yeah, No, we know, bring back Cliff this season.

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Speaker 3: This is good.

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00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: I like it all right, So I'll ask you the

842
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: same question I asked you one week ago. Are you

843
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: packed yet?

844
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: No? Okay, I have done laundry, so I have got

845
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: clean clothes, so I should be able to pack soon enough.

846
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: But again, I'm driving, so I can overpack out. Oh yeah,

847
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: I'll be fine. Okay, lots of options.

848
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Speaker 1: Drive safe, Thank you, enjoy.

849
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Speaker 3: I'll do my best.

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00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

851
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: And wait, what do.

852
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Speaker 3: You for Super Bowl? Do you make a dish?

853
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: There's something you green bean castro? No, No, I don't know.

854
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what we'll do. I have no idea.

855
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: I didn't have this decision to make a year ago

856
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: because I was at the game.

857
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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Cross that off my bucket list.

859
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Speaker 3: Nice. You gonna have buffalo chicken dip, maybe some sliders. Okay,

860
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: I'll have to think what else? Those are staples? I

861
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: feel like though, you can think of wings. Wings for sure,

862
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: some buffalo chicken dip have to have. Okay, I keep

863
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 3: thinking for you. I'm just gonna get hungry.

864
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Speaker 1: Talking about this, so you can continue your thought process

865
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Speaker 1: on your drive up to Vegas and on the return back.

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Speaker 1: Have fun, Danny. On that note, we'll put a lid

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Speaker 1: on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 1: pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer jim Mo Mohundra, our associate producer

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Speaker 1: Coddy Fincher. For Danny Surrek, I'm Craig Real Lou. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two