WEBVTT - Saunas: More Interesting Than You Think! 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.520 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:13.680 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:19.040 With me as always is Charles W. Chucker's Chuck Chucky 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.040 Bride of Chucky. You paused as if you forgot who 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.680 I was. I had a thing. I have marble mouth, 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:31.520 whereas the unusual to Here we go, this podcast brought 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:38.120 to you by Jolly Rancher. Have you ever mixes with Ziema? No? 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.200 But you know that Oakland Raiders former Oakland Raiders quarterback 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.200 JaMarcus Russell just got busted with. They call it purple 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:49.479 drank and it's it's like it's codeine syrup and I 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.200 think some sort of carbonet soda and Jolly Rancher, Wow, 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.560 that's robo tripping is what he's doing. Well, it came 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.080 out of the Houston, Texas scene like ten years ago. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.680 We're drink. I never heard of That's how square I am. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.840 I haven't heard of it either, So don't feel bad. Okay. Plus, 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.119 it's like that's what they do in Houston. Seriously, that 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.000 what you want your town associated with? Yeah, we use 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.720 code dean water. Yeah, we came up with purple drink. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.039 Wasn't he the QB for l s U. Yeah. Hey 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.279 that guy, Well he's a bust. He's nothing. Now, well 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.760 he's a big wash. Really. Yeah. He went to the 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.039 NFL and got all fat and through interceptions and he 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.760 was great for LU team. He was so Anyway, I 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:34.479 guess what all that leads us to, Chuck is saunas. Yes, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:38.080 football players, Well they probably your steam room guys. Yeah, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.760 let's talk about That's a great place to start, Chuck. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.920 There's a difference between a sauna and a steam room. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.280 There's a number of differences, but the mode of heat 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.400 is what's really different. Right. Yeah, And I should point 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.120 out we called this Saunas colon more interesting than you 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:57.400 think for a reason because Robert lamb Our, a steam 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:02.840 writer and uh stuff from the Sience Lab. He wrote 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.640 this and he told us like months ago, He's like, dude, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.320 you should do saunas saunas. It's way cooler than you think, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.920 and it's dirty and filthy and Mike and he was 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.920 right steeped in history. Yeah, this is uh for my money. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.000 Robert Williams the best writer on how stuff works out 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.840 com ever. Um, but he wrote an altogether pleasant article 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.000 that I've read like many, many times, and every time 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.520 you just loved the way he wrote it. It's a 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.400 great article. We should read the first line, please do. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.440 The first line of his article says, you're going to 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.680 want to read this article naked, So please, before you 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.520 go any further, disrobe completely. So if you're in the 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.000 confines of your own home, yeah, if the shades are 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.040 drawn and you're an adult, there's no one else around 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.960 that you're uncomfortable with. Very specifically, Chuck is only talking 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.240 to people who are we'll just go with twenty one 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:49.040 years of age and older. And you're alone in your house, 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.680 And if you're listening to your podcast and you feel 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:54.919 like doing so naked right now, please do right now. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.679 Saunas more interesting than you think. Thank you. Brought to 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.799 you by Jolly Rancher. Uh, Chuck, we were talking about 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.880 the difference between a steam room and a sauna. A 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:09.600 steam room is heated by moisture vapor, water vapor. Uh. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.600 And for that reason, the average steam room is going 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.959 to be about a hundred and four degrees fahrenheit, which 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.160 is forty degree celsius. Right, pretty hot it is, but 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.359 you can't check it up much hotter than that, and 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.040 the reason why is because it feels so much hotter 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.440 than it is because it's a moisture rich environment and 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:32.400 our body cools by sweating, and then the sweat evaporating 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.880 off of the skin that creates our cooling sensation. Well, 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.280 in a steam room, you sweat, you sweat buckets, but 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.119 it never evaporates because for evaporation to occur, the environment, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.480 the ambient air has to be drier than your skin, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.360 and if it's equally dry or it's wetter, then your 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.680 sweat is not going to evaporate, no cooling effect, right, 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.880 which is why sweating while you're swimming is is and 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.400 it's a problem, it's yeah, which is what I do. Yeah. 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.720 And then in a sauna, conversely, this is dry heat, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.440 so it's gonna be a lot hotter temperature wise in there, right, Yeah. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.600 I mean, if a steam room is a hundred and 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.640 four degrees fahrenheit average, you're talking a hundred and seventy 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.160 six degrees fahrenheit. It's hot eighty degrees celsius in in 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.800 your average sauna. And I do you like saunas and 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.200 steam rooms? You do. I've never really sat in the 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.039 steam room, but I love saunas. Actually, growing up. There's 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.520 a holiday in in Toledo that um my family had 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.160 a pool membership too, and they had a sauna. Who wha, wha, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.720 wha wha. You could get a pool membership to a 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:38.960 hotel in Toledo in the seventies, seventies and eighties. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.120 I never heard of that. But I mean now that 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.239 I look back, I'm like, yeah, that's really really weird. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.200 Probably a membership, your dad was probably yeah, we got 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.840 a membership kids, come right, I wonder actually had a 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.320 room key? Is we had I'm pretty sure we had 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.320 a membership, but I don't remember. But they had a 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.400 sauna for sure. Uh. And so I was introduced to 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.240 the sauna like really early on. It was like just 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.200 a normal thing. So when you were a little kid, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.120 you enjoyed it because it seems like such an old 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.960 person thing or an adult thing to do here in 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.640 the West. If you go to Finland, baby, they are 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.440 all about the saunas. I mean, it's like their national pastime, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:18.119 right actually, um, in their national epic, Chuck, it's called 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:24.200 the calla Valla. This is a little side side note 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.840 that it's their national epic, very very old. Uh. It 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.280 mentioned saunas frequently. Well, of course, okay um, there's about 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.120 one point six million saunas in Finland and uh. The 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:40.240 first description of a Finnish sauna dates back to eleven thirteen. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.680 The Ukrainian historian Nestor wrote about him. That was my 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:49.000 goats name, Nestor? Really did you name it after the 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.960 Ukrainian history house? That was eleven and named him after 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.440 the Ukrainian storian. It was either that or Plato. Did 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.240 your goat love a good fitz? Uh? No, but he 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.000 drank coke from a bottle, which was kind of cute. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.440 That is so cute. It's cute with goats. It's not 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.640 very cute when you see a human baby drinking coke 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.520 from a bottle, which I've seen and it's disturbing. Really. Yeah, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.240 if you're seen, like a one year old drinking a 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.200 bottle of Coca cola, no it ain't right, man, Yeah, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.240 that's not right at all. It's better than an espresso shot, 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.760 I guess, but not much there. And by coke, of course, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.599 I'm using the Southern colloquialism for coke, which means any 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.200 kind of soda poptu c o a. As always, man, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.200 we got really far off of saunas, didn't we let's 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.840 go back, So Finland saunas are associated with it, and 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.000 for good reason. Right, did you read the article about 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:43.680 the Finnish navy fighting pirates. Yeah, they have saunas on 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.240 the pirate fighting boats. Yeah. And not only that, the 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.760 Finnish army and Kosovo built twenty saunas for their for 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.720 their fighters over there, like troops, eight hundred troops, and 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.880 they have them in prison yeah, finished prisons. Yeah, it's 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.200 it's literally a part of daily life. If you go 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:06.719 camping and you're finish, you take along a portable sauna 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.240 while you're camping, like people take saunas every day. It's 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.880 like showering to us, and this is an addition to showering. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.640 They shower a lot too. Yeah. Before we breathe past 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.760 the finished prisons on as though, we should uh that 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.000 this is sort of remarkable to me because we'll find out, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.400 as we said that a lot of about being in 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.400 sauna is being completely naked, especially if you're finished. Americans 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:30.600 a little more shy, but we'll get to that in 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.640 a minute. But I imagine a finished prison sanna is 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.040 a pretty happening place to be on a Friday night, 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.400 wouldn't you think. Yeah, because the saunas have something of 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.760 a reputation, especially in the seventies. Um they developed the 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:51.480 reputation for being a swinging gay hangout, right, and that 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.040 is nothing new actually, um saunas, which we'll talk about later, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.480 the history of them. But they were um kind of 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.400 eradicated thanks to the product start reformation, because they had started, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.960 they had started to get pretty. Yeah. Yeah, it's a 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.920 big party in there. Uh and not just gay either, well, no, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:14.000 all sorts of stuffy prostitution. Yeah, it's honest, word that. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.240 All they were missing was a disco ball in uh 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.720 Andy Warhol and it could have been a studio. Uh 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.720 So let's get but let's crawl back inside the sauna 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.440 for a minute. Okay, you know all the spruce cedar. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.200 Would that looks so nice and feel so good on 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.240 your bottom? Yes? I always thought that was just like 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.560 I mean, I knew obviously they weren't gonna put stainless 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.600 steel in there, but I never really figured out it's would. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.880 But I never gave it two thoughts. Right, you would 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.640 think that it was just a traditional and it is traditional. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.960 But at the same time, yeah, it's never been updated 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.480 in that respect because if you did put in stainless steel, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.719 you would leave many, many layers of skin in the 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.840 sauna from your bottom every time you sat down. Same 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.719 with plastic um, you'd just be in big trouble. So 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:02.520 would absorbs heat, and it remains relatively cool at high temperatures, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.680 which is why I mean, it's still warm. Your tookis 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.600 is hot, but it's not like you're not hurting yourself. Yeah. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.640 And Robert also pointed out that it's absorbs steam and 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:17.320 stores heat and releases like that fine ceedar smell, right, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.960 which is why the youth ceedar and spruce because they 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.920 have natural aromatics trapped within more than others. Right. I 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.440 love cedar except pine. But I don't know if you'd 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.480 want to sit there and smell pine the whole time, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.280 would you? Maybe you get a little crazy? I think yeah, 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:35.840 I think so, so, Chuck. Let's talk about the original 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:41.040 finished sauna, the Savusana. Yeah, it looks sort of like 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:47.520 the Unibomber cabin. It's literally a cabin like structure, no windows, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.679 no chimney, no chimney, which is important because it is 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.320 a wood fire sauna. Yeah. And it's a little disconcerting. Apparently, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.480 if you have an original savosana, it takes like all 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.440 day to get it hot enough. You're burning wood, they're 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.000 smoke in there. Yeah, it's black soot on the walls 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.880 and this is where you're supposed to go in and sit. Yeah. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.600 It sounds very dangerous to me. It does. It doesn't 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.480 sound healthy, um, which is why the savo sauna UM, 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.800 because of the eye irritants, the fact that you're inhaling 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.480 carbon monoxide and all sorts of other stuff UM is 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.280 generally relegated to sauna purists. According to Mr r L 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.160 A M. Yeah, but I get the idea that you're 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.600 supposed to let the smoke clear out as much as possible, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:30.760 Is that right? Yeah? Like, but how how do you 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.720 do that well? Because you're just letting all the heat 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.720 out you know? Yeah that he said it seeps through 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:39.439 uh in the roof? Yeah yeah. Stick to me, And 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.640 I mean you're getting hot enough. As a c O, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.360 I would say, please do not try to build your 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.240 own savo sana because you will likely die off. That's 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.720 what I'm saying. Like, I don't understand how people survive 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:54.600 the saunas, right, So, um. They're generally left to sauna 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.760 purists and the rest of us just use regular saunas. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.400 It's just called the sauna. And this is the very 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.720 recognizable sauna with spruce or cedar would um and a stove. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.640 Most of the time these stove called kiowas, are electric 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.559 these days, although you can have a wood burning kiowa 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:18.440 kiowas k i u a s um that has a chimney. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:23.319 So the main feature isn't that it's wood heated for 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.880 a sava sauna, it's that there's no chimney and you're inhaling. Yeah, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.040 and well we should point out to like whether it's 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.880 wood or gas or electric or whatever, it's not that's 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.160 not providing the heat. You're heating rocks, right, and then 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.360 the rocks transfer the heat to the surrounding environment. And 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.720 if you want to jack the temperature a little bit, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.520 remember we talked about steam room, uh huh, that it's 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.040 heated by water vapor. You can actually use the same 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.400 thing for a sauna. You take a little water too 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.959 later from a bucket, splash it on the rocks, and 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.680 all of a sudden you have with the Finns call loyally, 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.480 there's a lot in there, I know, and I don't. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.600 I'm not big on Finnish pronuncia Asian. I know how 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.600 to say semohaya, and I'm not even sure I'm saying 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:08.880 that right. I'm gonna go with literally literally literally convening. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.440 That's Swedish. I'm sorry, Yes, I just said something in Swedish. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.439 So since we were talking about the rocks, so we 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.160 should say that the rocks. It's very important. You can't 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.360 just throw granite in there, because granite will probably explode 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.280 in your face. I think it's that hot, sup, But 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.520 water on real dangers are not good. No, you need 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:30.640 unweathered quarry rock. And he listed a few. Hornblenda is 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.920 my favorite. The one they like the most is, uh, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:39.280 what is it? Periodote, periodotite, peridotite, because there's an there's 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.439 there's a semi precious mineral called parado. Yeah, so I 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.920 imagine this is where it comes from. Paradotype or old 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:50.959 friend basalt. Yeah, why why can't we get that one? 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.960 It won't stick in our head like there's no um 0:12:54.200 --> 0:13:23.960 neural pathway forming when we hear that word. So anyway, paradotite. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.040 So those those are the rocks, the unweathered corey rock 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.520 that that you can use to get really really hot. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.640 You can pour water on them. It'll steam, it'll hiss, 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.839 but it won't blow up in your face right again, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.920 which is very important. I was surprised to find that 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.640 the Swedes don't have a name for the pile of 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.800 rocks that heat the sauna. They have a name for 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.160 the stove kios. They have a name for the steam, 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.040 which is yeah, they don't have a name for the 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.360 rocks called the pile of rocks. The water on the 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.840 pile of rocks and make us some really uh josh. 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.439 You can also have what's called an infrared sauna, and 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.800 that's the latest and greatest. And people say, people that 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.120 believe in the infrareds honest say that it actually penetrates 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:09.040 like into your bones, which it's good and bad. If 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.600 you listen to the Butterfly Wings podcast, you know, infred 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.319 means redder than red on the on the spectrum of light, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:22.200 right yeah, and it's radiation, sure exists, radiation that's good. Basically, 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:26.440 what's going on is you're being bathed in infrared radiation. Yeah, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.000 so it heats you up. I'm a semi purist. I 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.520 think yeah, I think I would just like a regular sauna, 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.880 not a savos stove a key us exactly, kind of 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.960 like they have at the gym, yeah, or at the 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.800 holiday and without the old naked men. Well, that is 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.320 the thing about um SAA's that you're going to run into, 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.000 chuck is naked men and naked women even depending on 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.440 why not, Yeah, that's um. Robert made sure to point 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.640 out that depending on where you are in the world, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.520 different cultures have different traditions. Finland, a lot of Eastern Europe, Russia, 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.800 you can pretty much drop everything. You gotta have your 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.800 towel though, because you gotta sit on it. Right. You 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.640 you may be completely naked, but you still have to 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.160 have a towel for hygienic reasons. You don't want to 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.480 just sit your butt on the cedar plank where somebody 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.720 else just said there but because there's a transfer of 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.960 butt funk. Yeah. But you know what also I thought 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.640 was funny. He said that they don't like Americans who 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.400 want to wear like their bathing suit in there. They're 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.080 really frowned upon because of hygienic reasons. Right, you just 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:25.880 cover up with a towel. Yeah, but why is that 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.280 not hygienic to wear like your speedo in there? Does 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.640 a butt funk get trapped in the I think the 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.440 butt funk can make it through the licra to the 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.560 outside of it. Is that it? Maybe? I don't know. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.440 I just thought that was odd because here in the 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.000 U S we're like, now, you wear a bathing suit 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.880 for hygienic reasons. That's my point. Yeah, that's some my point. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.120 Maybe maybe it's because we don't wash our bathing suits 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.000 quite as often as we wash our selves are naked bodies. 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.160 This is a steamy episode. Should know, well, we are 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.160 talking about nakedness, and we also should mention that, um, 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:08.520 same sex saunas are found all over the place in Europe. Yeah, 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:13.000 where saunas have traditionally been around for a very long time. Yeah, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.520 they tend to have same sex, although they'll also have 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:21.360 mixed sex um as well. Yeah there's both. Wait, I'm sorry. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.680 The places where the songs have been around the most 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.040 are more likely to have mixed sex. Places where it 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.080 went away for a while and came back would have 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:34.800 more like same sex saunas. Right right, I was confused. Germany, Austria, Scandinavia, 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.560 Eastern Europe. He says generally offer nude, mixed company bathing. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.680 I yeah, mixed company like men and women. You got it? Yeah, 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.480 in Russian banyas. Did you ever see Eastern Promises? Yes, 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.360 such a good movie. Has there ever been a more 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:55.680 uncomfortable fight scene in your life? Completely naked? A couple 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.880 of guys, it was you. Yeah, it's awesome movie. Um, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.360 it's for adults. It's rated R or maybe n C 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:07.000 seventeen even possibly triple X, triple X, triple X. But yeah, 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.200 there's a fight scene where Vigo is completely naked in 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.000 a bath house and fights these guys. I can't imagine 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.879 anything worse than being in a fight when I'm completely naked. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.720 I would just that gives me the hives. It does 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:23.280 me as well. Yeah, let's talk about sweat. Yeah, let's 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.680 talk about the science of it. Huh Okay, that's what 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.000 it's all about. Yeah, but a lot of people who um, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.720 who use saunas say that they're very healthy, and as 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.800 Lamb gets into that goes back to the idea that 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.240 sweat is excretion and excreting anything is healthy. But he 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:44.480 also points out that it's very easy to make this mistake, 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.480 this this idea of any excretion is good. Has been 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.119 around for a very long time. And don't forget what 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.399 we used to use leeches to suck our blood. Um. 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.800 We used to believe that UM pooping as much as 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.439 we could was a good idea, UM, which I kind 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.960 of still into that one. I do too. I'm a 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.679 big believer in it. Uh. If you're talking sweat, josh, Um, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.119 what happens is nerve endings are triggered by heat and 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:15.399 it releases a neurotransmitter called acetal colie exactly, and he 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.399 says there are two point three million sweat glands that 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.360 all a sudden kick into action, which are also called 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.560 ekring glands, are different from apo kringla. I feel like 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.440 I have more, but it's probably not the case. Mine 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.439 are just overactive. That's possible. Hard working you do, I've 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:33.760 seen I've seen you sweat in a seventy degree farrenheight 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.199 tank which is chili. You have to have a wet 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.359 suit for that. And Chuck is still sweating again with 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.040 the swimming and sweating. Uh So he claims that in 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.080 a fifteen minutes sauna, the average person sweats about four 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.080 cups about a leader of sweat, which is way more 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.960 for me in fifteen minutes, right yeah, I sweat about 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.399 a gallon in fifteen minutes. I guarantee that's a lot, man. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.040 A leader of sweat is a lot of water to lose. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.399 It is, you know. But you should see me in 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.879 a sauna. It's awesome. It's one of the best feelings. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:07.520 But I'm not exactly uh sweating out toxins, am I. No, 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.480 you're sweating out salt uric acid, not to be confused 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.920 with Robert uruk um. And that's pretty much it. You 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:19.399 can you can you do excrete toxins, right yeah, but 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.919 not much. No. For the most part, toxins are excreted 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:27.520 through your kidneys. This is your go to um excretion, 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.960 right um. And the researchers have found that in heavy sweat, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.840 about one percent of mercury found in the bloodstream is released, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.240 where the other that's released goes through the kidneys. It 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:47.679 either comes out in the stool or the urine, right right, uh. 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:52.040 And this is it has no the The concentration of 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.359 a toxin in the blood stream appears to have no 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.880 bearing on how much is released through the sweat. It's 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:58.639 almost like our sweat glands are set up to just 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:03.320 do one percent. But people who use saunas, say, man, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.400 one percent of a concentration of mercury. Yeah, yeah, that's 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.280 definitely worth fifteen minutes in the sauna. Absolutely, you know, 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.240 so they can. But I think it's not just feeling healthier. 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.240 They're saying, Look, there's a science behind it as well, 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:18.600 right right, exactly. Um. Another benefit of a good sauna 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.800 sweat or a good sweat period is this really good 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.280 for your skin. It opens your pores, keeps them nice, impliant, 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.520 and the uh there's a study by the Journal of 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.639 Dermatology that said, you know, a regular sweat from a 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.639 sauna has a proactive effect on your skin and like 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.440 helps out with ex amaun and all kinds of dry 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:40.359 skin conditions. And also um Land points out that we 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.560 have long associated like bathing rituals with kind of um 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.960 clearing away the like a spiritual the psychic funk. Yeah yeah, 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.879 not just bottom funk, but head funk. Yeah. Uh. And 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:58.280 anybody who's felt poorly uh and it's taking a shower 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.480 can attest to that. You just feel better somehow after 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.440 a shower, And there's nothing worse than the feeling of 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:08.720 taking a shower, stepping out and still feeling bad because 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:10.920 you know it's gonna be another twenty four hours before 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.720 and you're going to feel start to feel good. Like 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:15.800 you know, you've screwed up big time if you take 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.719 a shower and you still don't feel good afterwards, right 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.800 you are, Josh, A great shower, like a great sweat 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.760 or a good steam. Good fits good, fits does a 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:28.240 body good. Um, we're talking about the Russian banya, the 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:32.760 saunas there the bath house. They also would beat themselves. 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.159 I think they probably still do. You would flog your 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.959 skin with what's called the venic and it's a bundle 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.639 of leafy branches like oak and maple and birch branches, right, 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:45.240 And by doing that, they're they're stimulating circulation because the 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.920 skin's like, what's gonna quit that? Send some blood there, 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:49.920 find out what's going on, right, let me know what's 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.160 going on after you get there. See, And um, that's 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.440 what that's what the skin is doing, right. Uh. And 0:21:55.800 --> 0:22:00.760 it also um produces a mild euphoric effect apparently releases 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.080 the plant oils, which is also a good thing. And 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.160 uh yeah, he said. It stimulates the production of opiate 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:11.240 endorphins and it's like a mild narcotic effect crazy, which 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.439 I love that that those three words together. Mild narcotic effect, 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.359 that's great. It's almost like cellar door. Mild narcotic effect. 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.280 That's better than massive narcotic effect. Right, and then you're 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:24.480 in trouble. Then that shower doesn't work. Um chuck. Also, 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.840 saunas produce a mock fever. Yeah, I thought that was 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.240 kind of cool. So your internal body temperature can raise 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:34.280 as much as five point four degrease fahrenheight, right, and uh, 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.719 the temperature at your skin can increase by as much 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.159 as eighteen degrees fahrenheight. That's a lot. That is a 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.760 serious amount. And by doing that, your body is like, Okay, 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.600 I'm sick. I need to jack my immune system up. 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.800 So white blood cell count or white blood cell production 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.520