1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: With me as always is Charles W. Chucker's Chuck Chucky 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Bride of Chucky. You paused as if you forgot who 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: I was. I had a thing. I have marble mouth, 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: whereas the unusual to Here we go, this podcast brought 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: to you by Jolly Rancher. Have you ever mixes with Ziema? No? 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: But you know that Oakland Raiders former Oakland Raiders quarterback 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell just got busted with. They call it purple 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: drank and it's it's like it's codeine syrup and I 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: think some sort of carbonet soda and Jolly Rancher, Wow, 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: that's robo tripping is what he's doing. Well, it came 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: out of the Houston, Texas scene like ten years ago. 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: We're drink. I never heard of That's how square I am. 15 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: I haven't heard of it either, So don't feel bad. Okay. Plus, 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: it's like that's what they do in Houston. Seriously, that 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: what you want your town associated with? Yeah, we use 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: code dean water. Yeah, we came up with purple drink. 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Wasn't he the QB for l s U. Yeah. Hey 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 1: that guy, Well he's a bust. He's nothing. Now, well 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: he's a big wash. Really. Yeah. He went to the 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: NFL and got all fat and through interceptions and he 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: was great for LU team. He was so Anyway, I 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: guess what all that leads us to, Chuck is saunas. Yes, 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: football players, Well they probably your steam room guys. Yeah, 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: let's talk about That's a great place to start, Chuck. 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: There's a difference between a sauna and a steam room. 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: There's a number of differences, but the mode of heat 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: is what's really different. Right. Yeah, And I should point 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: out we called this Saunas colon more interesting than you 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: think for a reason because Robert lamb Our, a steam 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: writer and uh stuff from the Sience Lab. He wrote 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: this and he told us like months ago, He's like, dude, 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: you should do saunas saunas. It's way cooler than you think, 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: and it's dirty and filthy and Mike and he was 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: right steeped in history. Yeah, this is uh for my money. 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: Robert Williams the best writer on how stuff works out 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: com ever. Um, but he wrote an altogether pleasant article 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: that I've read like many, many times, and every time 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: you just loved the way he wrote it. It's a 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: great article. We should read the first line, please do. 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: The first line of his article says, you're going to 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: want to read this article naked, So please, before you 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: go any further, disrobe completely. So if you're in the 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: confines of your own home, yeah, if the shades are 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: drawn and you're an adult, there's no one else around 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: that you're uncomfortable with. Very specifically, Chuck is only talking 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: to people who are we'll just go with twenty one 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: years of age and older. And you're alone in your house, 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: And if you're listening to your podcast and you feel 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: like doing so naked right now, please do right now. 52 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: Saunas more interesting than you think. Thank you. Brought to 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: you by Jolly Rancher. Uh, Chuck, we were talking about 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: the difference between a steam room and a sauna. A 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: steam room is heated by moisture vapor, water vapor. Uh. 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: And for that reason, the average steam room is going 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: to be about a hundred and four degrees fahrenheit, which 58 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: is forty degree celsius. Right, pretty hot it is, but 59 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: you can't check it up much hotter than that, and 60 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: the reason why is because it feels so much hotter 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: than it is because it's a moisture rich environment and 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: our body cools by sweating, and then the sweat evaporating 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: off of the skin that creates our cooling sensation. Well, 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: in a steam room, you sweat, you sweat buckets, but 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: it never evaporates because for evaporation to occur, the environment, 66 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: the ambient air has to be drier than your skin, 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: and if it's equally dry or it's wetter, then your 68 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: sweat is not going to evaporate, no cooling effect, right, 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: which is why sweating while you're swimming is is and 70 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: it's a problem, it's yeah, which is what I do. Yeah. 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: And then in a sauna, conversely, this is dry heat, 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a lot hotter temperature wise in there, right, Yeah. 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if a steam room is a hundred and 74 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: four degrees fahrenheit average, you're talking a hundred and seventy 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: six degrees fahrenheit. It's hot eighty degrees celsius in in 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: your average sauna. And I do you like saunas and 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: steam rooms? You do. I've never really sat in the 78 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: steam room, but I love saunas. Actually, growing up. There's 79 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: a holiday in in Toledo that um my family had 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: a pool membership too, and they had a sauna. Who wha, wha, 81 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: wha wha. You could get a pool membership to a 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: hotel in Toledo in the seventies, seventies and eighties. Yeah, yeah, 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: I never heard of that. But I mean now that 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: I look back, I'm like, yeah, that's really really weird. 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Probably a membership, your dad was probably yeah, we got 86 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: a membership kids, come right, I wonder actually had a 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: room key? Is we had I'm pretty sure we had 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: a membership, but I don't remember. But they had a 89 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: sauna for sure. Uh. And so I was introduced to 90 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: the sauna like really early on. It was like just 91 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: a normal thing. So when you were a little kid, 92 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: you enjoyed it because it seems like such an old 93 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: person thing or an adult thing to do here in 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the West. If you go to Finland, baby, they are 95 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: all about the saunas. I mean, it's like their national pastime, 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: right actually, um, in their national epic, Chuck, it's called 97 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: the calla Valla. This is a little side side note 98 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: that it's their national epic, very very old. Uh. It 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: mentioned saunas frequently. Well, of course, okay um, there's about 100 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: one point six million saunas in Finland and uh. The 101 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: first description of a Finnish sauna dates back to eleven thirteen. 102 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: The Ukrainian historian Nestor wrote about him. That was my 103 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: goats name, Nestor? Really did you name it after the 104 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Ukrainian history house? That was eleven and named him after 105 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian storian. It was either that or Plato. Did 106 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: your goat love a good fitz? Uh? No, but he 107 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: drank coke from a bottle, which was kind of cute. 108 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: That is so cute. It's cute with goats. It's not 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: very cute when you see a human baby drinking coke 110 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: from a bottle, which I've seen and it's disturbing. Really. Yeah, 111 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: if you're seen, like a one year old drinking a 112 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: bottle of Coca cola, no it ain't right, man, Yeah, 113 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: that's not right at all. It's better than an espresso shot, 114 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: I guess, but not much there. And by coke, of course, 115 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: I'm using the Southern colloquialism for coke, which means any 116 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: kind of soda poptu c o a. As always, man, 117 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: we got really far off of saunas, didn't we let's 118 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: go back, So Finland saunas are associated with it, and 119 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: for good reason. Right, did you read the article about 120 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: the Finnish navy fighting pirates. Yeah, they have saunas on 121 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the pirate fighting boats. Yeah. And not only that, the 122 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: Finnish army and Kosovo built twenty saunas for their for 123 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: their fighters over there, like troops, eight hundred troops, and 124 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: they have them in prison yeah, finished prisons. Yeah, it's 125 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: it's literally a part of daily life. If you go 126 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: camping and you're finish, you take along a portable sauna 127 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: while you're camping, like people take saunas every day. It's 128 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: like showering to us, and this is an addition to showering. 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: They shower a lot too. Yeah. Before we breathe past 130 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: the finished prisons on as though, we should uh that 131 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: this is sort of remarkable to me because we'll find out, 132 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: as we said that a lot of about being in 133 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: sauna is being completely naked, especially if you're finished. Americans 134 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: a little more shy, but we'll get to that in 135 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: a minute. But I imagine a finished prison sanna is 136 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: a pretty happening place to be on a Friday night, 137 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't you think. Yeah, because the saunas have something of 138 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: a reputation, especially in the seventies. Um they developed the 139 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: reputation for being a swinging gay hangout, right, and that 140 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: is nothing new actually, um saunas, which we'll talk about later, 141 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: the history of them. But they were um kind of 142 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: eradicated thanks to the product start reformation, because they had started, 143 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: they had started to get pretty. Yeah. Yeah, it's a 144 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: big party in there. Uh and not just gay either, well, no, 145 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuffy prostitution. Yeah, it's honest, word that. 146 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: All they were missing was a disco ball in uh 147 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: Andy Warhol and it could have been a studio. Uh 148 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: So let's get but let's crawl back inside the sauna 149 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: for a minute. Okay, you know all the spruce cedar. 150 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Would that looks so nice and feel so good on 151 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: your bottom? Yes? I always thought that was just like 152 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I knew obviously they weren't gonna put stainless 153 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: steel in there, but I never really figured out it's would. 154 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: But I never gave it two thoughts. Right, you would 155 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: think that it was just a traditional and it is traditional. 156 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, yeah, it's never been updated 157 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: in that respect because if you did put in stainless steel, 158 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: you would leave many, many layers of skin in the 159 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: sauna from your bottom every time you sat down. Same 160 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: with plastic um, you'd just be in big trouble. So 161 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: would absorbs heat, and it remains relatively cool at high temperatures, 162 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: which is why I mean, it's still warm. Your tookis 163 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: is hot, but it's not like you're not hurting yourself. Yeah. 164 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: And Robert also pointed out that it's absorbs steam and 165 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: stores heat and releases like that fine ceedar smell, right, 166 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: which is why the youth ceedar and spruce because they 167 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: have natural aromatics trapped within more than others. Right. I 168 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: love cedar except pine. But I don't know if you'd 169 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: want to sit there and smell pine the whole time, 170 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: would you? Maybe you get a little crazy? I think yeah, 171 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: I think so, so, Chuck. Let's talk about the original 172 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: finished sauna, the Savusana. Yeah, it looks sort of like 173 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: the Unibomber cabin. It's literally a cabin like structure, no windows, 174 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: no chimney, no chimney, which is important because it is 175 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: a wood fire sauna. Yeah. And it's a little disconcerting. Apparently, 176 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: if you have an original savosana, it takes like all 177 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: day to get it hot enough. You're burning wood, they're 178 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: smoke in there. Yeah, it's black soot on the walls 179 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: and this is where you're supposed to go in and sit. Yeah. 180 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: It sounds very dangerous to me. It does. It doesn't 181 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: sound healthy, um, which is why the savo sauna UM, 182 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: because of the eye irritants, the fact that you're inhaling 183 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: carbon monoxide and all sorts of other stuff UM is 184 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: generally relegated to sauna purists. According to Mr r L 185 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: A M. Yeah, but I get the idea that you're 186 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: supposed to let the smoke clear out as much as possible, 187 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Like, but how how do you 188 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: do that well? Because you're just letting all the heat 189 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: out you know? Yeah that he said it seeps through 190 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: uh in the roof? Yeah yeah. Stick to me, And 191 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean you're getting hot enough. As a c O, 192 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: I would say, please do not try to build your 193 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: own savo sana because you will likely die off. That's 194 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, I don't understand how people survive 195 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: the saunas, right, So, um. They're generally left to sauna 196 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: purists and the rest of us just use regular saunas. 197 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: It's just called the sauna. And this is the very 198 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: recognizable sauna with spruce or cedar would um and a stove. 199 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Most of the time these stove called kiowas, are electric 200 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: these days, although you can have a wood burning kiowa 201 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: kiowas k i u a s um that has a chimney. 202 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: So the main feature isn't that it's wood heated for 203 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: a sava sauna, it's that there's no chimney and you're inhaling. Yeah, 204 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: and well we should point out to like whether it's 205 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: wood or gas or electric or whatever, it's not that's 206 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: not providing the heat. You're heating rocks, right, and then 207 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: the rocks transfer the heat to the surrounding environment. And 208 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: if you want to jack the temperature a little bit, 209 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: remember we talked about steam room, uh huh, that it's 210 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: heated by water vapor. You can actually use the same 211 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: thing for a sauna. You take a little water too 212 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: later from a bucket, splash it on the rocks, and 213 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you have with the Finns call loyally, 214 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot in there, I know, and I don't. 215 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm not big on Finnish pronuncia Asian. I know how 216 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: to say semohaya, and I'm not even sure I'm saying 217 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: that right. I'm gonna go with literally literally literally convening. 218 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: That's Swedish. I'm sorry, Yes, I just said something in Swedish. 219 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: So since we were talking about the rocks, so we 220 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: should say that the rocks. It's very important. You can't 221 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: just throw granite in there, because granite will probably explode 222 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: in your face. I think it's that hot, sup, But 223 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: water on real dangers are not good. No, you need 224 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: unweathered quarry rock. And he listed a few. Hornblenda is 225 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: my favorite. The one they like the most is, uh, 226 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: what is it? Periodote, periodotite, peridotite, because there's an there's 227 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: there's a semi precious mineral called parado. Yeah, so I 228 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: imagine this is where it comes from. Paradotype or old 229 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: friend basalt. Yeah, why why can't we get that one? 230 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: It won't stick in our head like there's no um 231 00:12:54,200 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: neural pathway forming when we hear that word. So anyway, paradotite. 232 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: So those those are the rocks, the unweathered corey rock 233 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: that that you can use to get really really hot. 234 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: You can pour water on them. It'll steam, it'll hiss, 235 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: but it won't blow up in your face right again, 236 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: which is very important. I was surprised to find that 237 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: the Swedes don't have a name for the pile of 238 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: rocks that heat the sauna. They have a name for 239 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: the stove kios. They have a name for the steam, 240 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: which is yeah, they don't have a name for the 241 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: rocks called the pile of rocks. The water on the 242 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: pile of rocks and make us some really uh josh. 243 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: You can also have what's called an infrared sauna, and 244 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: that's the latest and greatest. And people say, people that 245 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: believe in the infrareds honest say that it actually penetrates 246 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: like into your bones, which it's good and bad. If 247 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: you listen to the Butterfly Wings podcast, you know, infred 248 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: means redder than red on the on the spectrum of light, 249 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: right yeah, and it's radiation, sure exists, radiation that's good. Basically, 250 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: what's going on is you're being bathed in infrared radiation. Yeah, 251 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: so it heats you up. I'm a semi purist. I 252 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: think yeah, I think I would just like a regular sauna, 253 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: not a savos stove a key us exactly, kind of 254 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: like they have at the gym, yeah, or at the 255 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: holiday and without the old naked men. Well, that is 256 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: the thing about um SAA's that you're going to run into, 257 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: chuck is naked men and naked women even depending on 258 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: why not, Yeah, that's um. Robert made sure to point 259 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: out that depending on where you are in the world, 260 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: different cultures have different traditions. Finland, a lot of Eastern Europe, Russia, 261 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: you can pretty much drop everything. You gotta have your 262 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: towel though, because you gotta sit on it. Right. You 263 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: you may be completely naked, but you still have to 264 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: have a towel for hygienic reasons. You don't want to 265 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: just sit your butt on the cedar plank where somebody 266 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: else just said there but because there's a transfer of 267 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: butt funk. Yeah. But you know what also I thought 268 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: was funny. He said that they don't like Americans who 269 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: want to wear like their bathing suit in there. They're 270 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: really frowned upon because of hygienic reasons. Right, you just 271 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: cover up with a towel. Yeah, but why is that 272 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: not hygienic to wear like your speedo in there? Does 273 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: a butt funk get trapped in the I think the 274 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: butt funk can make it through the licra to the 275 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: outside of it. Is that it? Maybe? I don't know. 276 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: I just thought that was odd because here in the 277 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: U S we're like, now, you wear a bathing suit 278 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: for hygienic reasons. That's my point. Yeah, that's some my point. 279 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's because we don't wash our bathing suits 280 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: quite as often as we wash our selves are naked bodies. 281 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: This is a steamy episode. Should know, well, we are 282 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: talking about nakedness, and we also should mention that, um, 283 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: same sex saunas are found all over the place in Europe. Yeah, 284 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: where saunas have traditionally been around for a very long time. Yeah, 285 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: they tend to have same sex, although they'll also have 286 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: mixed sex um as well. Yeah there's both. Wait, I'm sorry. 287 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: The places where the songs have been around the most 288 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: are more likely to have mixed sex. Places where it 289 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: went away for a while and came back would have 290 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: more like same sex saunas. Right right, I was confused. Germany, Austria, Scandinavia, 291 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: Eastern Europe. He says generally offer nude, mixed company bathing. 292 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: I yeah, mixed company like men and women. You got it? Yeah, 293 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: in Russian banyas. Did you ever see Eastern Promises? Yes, 294 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: such a good movie. Has there ever been a more 295 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: uncomfortable fight scene in your life? Completely naked? A couple 296 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: of guys, it was you. Yeah, it's awesome movie. Um, 297 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: it's for adults. It's rated R or maybe n C 298 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: seventeen even possibly triple X, triple X, triple X. But yeah, 299 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: there's a fight scene where Vigo is completely naked in 300 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: a bath house and fights these guys. I can't imagine 301 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: anything worse than being in a fight when I'm completely naked. 302 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: I would just that gives me the hives. It does 303 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: me as well. Yeah, let's talk about sweat. Yeah, let's 304 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: talk about the science of it. Huh Okay, that's what 305 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: it's all about. Yeah, but a lot of people who um, 306 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: who use saunas say that they're very healthy, and as 307 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: Lamb gets into that goes back to the idea that 308 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: sweat is excretion and excreting anything is healthy. But he 309 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: also points out that it's very easy to make this mistake, 310 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: this this idea of any excretion is good. Has been 311 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: around for a very long time. And don't forget what 312 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: we used to use leeches to suck our blood. Um. 313 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: We used to believe that UM pooping as much as 314 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: we could was a good idea, UM, which I kind 315 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: of still into that one. I do too. I'm a 316 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: big believer in it. Uh. If you're talking sweat, josh, Um, 317 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: what happens is nerve endings are triggered by heat and 318 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: it releases a neurotransmitter called acetal colie exactly, and he 319 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: says there are two point three million sweat glands that 320 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: all a sudden kick into action, which are also called 321 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: ekring glands, are different from apo kringla. I feel like 322 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: I have more, but it's probably not the case. Mine 323 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: are just overactive. That's possible. Hard working you do, I've 324 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: seen I've seen you sweat in a seventy degree farrenheight 325 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: tank which is chili. You have to have a wet 326 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: suit for that. And Chuck is still sweating again with 327 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: the swimming and sweating. Uh So he claims that in 328 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: a fifteen minutes sauna, the average person sweats about four 329 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: cups about a leader of sweat, which is way more 330 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: for me in fifteen minutes, right yeah, I sweat about 331 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: a gallon in fifteen minutes. I guarantee that's a lot, man. 332 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: A leader of sweat is a lot of water to lose. 333 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: It is, you know. But you should see me in 334 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: a sauna. It's awesome. It's one of the best feelings. 335 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: But I'm not exactly uh sweating out toxins, am I. No, 336 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: you're sweating out salt uric acid, not to be confused 337 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: with Robert uruk um. And that's pretty much it. You 338 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: can you can you do excrete toxins, right yeah, but 339 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: not much. No. For the most part, toxins are excreted 340 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: through your kidneys. This is your go to um excretion, 341 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: right um. And the researchers have found that in heavy sweat, 342 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: about one percent of mercury found in the bloodstream is released, 343 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: where the other that's released goes through the kidneys. It 344 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: either comes out in the stool or the urine, right right, uh. 345 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: And this is it has no the The concentration of 346 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: a toxin in the blood stream appears to have no 347 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: bearing on how much is released through the sweat. It's 348 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: almost like our sweat glands are set up to just 349 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: do one percent. But people who use saunas, say, man, 350 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: one percent of a concentration of mercury. Yeah, yeah, that's 351 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: definitely worth fifteen minutes in the sauna. Absolutely, you know, 352 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: so they can. But I think it's not just feeling healthier. 353 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: They're saying, Look, there's a science behind it as well, 354 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: right right, exactly. Um. Another benefit of a good sauna 355 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: sweat or a good sweat period is this really good 356 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: for your skin. It opens your pores, keeps them nice, impliant, 357 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: and the uh there's a study by the Journal of 358 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: Dermatology that said, you know, a regular sweat from a 359 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: sauna has a proactive effect on your skin and like 360 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: helps out with ex amaun and all kinds of dry 361 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: skin conditions. And also um Land points out that we 362 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: have long associated like bathing rituals with kind of um 363 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: clearing away the like a spiritual the psychic funk. Yeah yeah, 364 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: not just bottom funk, but head funk. Yeah. Uh. And 365 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: anybody who's felt poorly uh and it's taking a shower 366 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: can attest to that. You just feel better somehow after 367 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: a shower, And there's nothing worse than the feeling of 368 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: taking a shower, stepping out and still feeling bad because 369 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be another twenty four hours before 370 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: and you're going to feel start to feel good. Like 371 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, you've screwed up big time if you take 372 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 1: a shower and you still don't feel good afterwards, right 373 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: you are, Josh, A great shower, like a great sweat 374 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: or a good steam. Good fits good, fits does a 375 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: body good. Um, we're talking about the Russian banya, the 376 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: saunas there the bath house. They also would beat themselves. 377 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: I think they probably still do. You would flog your 378 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: skin with what's called the venic and it's a bundle 379 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: of leafy branches like oak and maple and birch branches, right, 380 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: And by doing that, they're they're stimulating circulation because the 381 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: skin's like, what's gonna quit that? Send some blood there, 382 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: find out what's going on, right, let me know what's 383 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: going on after you get there. See, And um, that's 384 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: what that's what the skin is doing, right. Uh. And 385 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: it also um produces a mild euphoric effect apparently releases 386 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: the plant oils, which is also a good thing. And 387 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: uh yeah, he said. It stimulates the production of opiate 388 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: endorphins and it's like a mild narcotic effect crazy, which 389 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: I love that that those three words together. Mild narcotic effect, 390 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: that's great. It's almost like cellar door. Mild narcotic effect. 391 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: That's better than massive narcotic effect. Right, and then you're 392 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: in trouble. Then that shower doesn't work. Um chuck. Also, 393 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: saunas produce a mock fever. Yeah, I thought that was 394 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: kind of cool. So your internal body temperature can raise 395 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: as much as five point four degrease fahrenheight, right, and uh, 396 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: the temperature at your skin can increase by as much 397 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: as eighteen degrees fahrenheight. That's a lot. That is a 398 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: serious amount. And by doing that, your body is like, Okay, 399 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm sick. I need to jack my immune system up. 400 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: So white blood cell count or white blood cell production 401 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: is increased. UM. The limph nodes, which are another internal 402 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: waste system, a very important one, UM, are flushed. Uh, 403 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: and you start to sweat even four even further. Yeah, 404 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: but it doesn't increase your blood pressure. Increases your blood 405 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: pump circulation circulation, but not your blood pressure. No, but 406 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: if you do have high blood pressure, we should say 407 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: saunas are not recommended for you. Well, we should just 408 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: go ahead and say, who all, it's not recommended for 409 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: kids and old people, it's not recommended pregnant ladies. Um, 410 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: but it is good. Um, like those people shouldn't get in, 411 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: but women definitely might want to get in because it 412 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: apparently alleviates menstrual cramps really well. Right, but if you're 413 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: pregnant again, you want to stay away from the sauna 414 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: if you're pregnant, right, very very astute point, Chuck, thank you. Um. 415 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Lastly about physiology and saunaing, Um, what you want to 416 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: do is keep yourself very hydrated because the irony is 417 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: while you're excreting that one percent the go to excreaseing 418 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: excreting organs, the kidneys need water to excrete the other 419 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: and if you're sweating all of it out, things get 420 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: backed up toxic levels, raising your body and you can 421 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: do some real damage to yourself. So every time you 422 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: go into the sauna, you want to take a jug 423 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: of water with you with at least a leader. Right. Yeah, 424 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: I would say if you have gout, the sauna is 425 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 1: probably a good place to go. You think so, oh, 426 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: because you're a acid builds up. Yeah, it's your all 427 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: this is a build up. If you're a acid and 428 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: you're well, your is you're a acid. So if you 429 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: have gout, can get thee to a sauna. Okay Um, 430 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: And there was one other cool thing about the physical 431 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: Oh the reason they one reason they recommend heart patients 432 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: not getting saunas is because one of the traditions is 433 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: to jump from the sauna, either into a snow bank 434 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: or into a cool pool water in Finland, Yeah, and 435 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: shock your body. And the old urban legend that you 436 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: heard when your kids about going from the hot tub 437 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: to the pool and you'll you'll drown because your pores 438 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: are open. That's so not true. Actually, it's big in 439 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: Turkey too. There's the Turkish bath, which is like a 440 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: hot tub and then a cool tub, right, and you 441 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: go from one to the other. I did not know 442 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: that far as I know, that's what I've always heard it. 443 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: I had no idea. Um, Chuck, I think it's high 444 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: time we talked about the history of the sauna. And 445 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: saunas are very very old. Yeah, Neolithic tribes. I love 446 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: how he tied culture and uh humans like culture springing 447 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: up around human physiological needs and bathing he said was 448 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: like the first people that bathe and hot springs lead 449 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: to saunas. They're like, wow, this is fantastic. I really 450 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: like this. Yeah. Um, And I think in France and 451 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: Spain especially, a lot of the Neolithic settlements are located 452 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: very close to hot springs and not by accident either. Right. No, Um, 453 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: as people were remained nomadic, apparently, we started creating collapsible, 454 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: portable saunas that resemble like sweat lodges in Native America. Um. 455 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: And then as we began to settle down and become sedentary, uh, 456 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: they made more permanent structures like dugouts in Earthen dugouts uh. 457 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: And then eventually the Savo saunas, and then which remember 458 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: day back at least to the twelfth century, right, that's 459 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: the humily a lot further than that. Apparently, as Finland 460 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: settled by modern Finns, um, the the sauna was pretty 461 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: much brought with them. Yeah. And through the Middle Ages 462 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: it was like the common people. It wasn't just for 463 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: the rich or anything. The common like whole villages would 464 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: would sauna together, sweat it out together, men, women and children, 465 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: and at the local bathhouse they would actually feast inside 466 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: the sauna. Yes, is really gross. It is they would 467 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: get married, um, and they would get they would have 468 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: babes on. Yes, prostitution what they called the stews was 469 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: the nickname they had. Yes, Yeah, that's not a stew. 470 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: You want to eat with crackers, um maybe afterwards, yeah, perhaps. 471 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: So this this association, like we said, with saw and 472 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: places where you could find a prostitute and have sex 473 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: with said prostitute. Um. And just kind of that Roman 474 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: diane ie in orgiastic um kind of vibe going on 475 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: in the Saunus was one of the reasons why they 476 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: were eradicated by Europe because in the early sixteenth century 477 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: Europe got a little tense. Yeah, Protestant Reformation just ruined everything. Yeah, 478 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: they're kind of like, you can't do that you put 479 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: a put a hat with a buckle on right now. Yeah, 480 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: you can't do that either or that or that or 481 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: that right, get out to start crying right now, let 482 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: me teach you what guilt is all about. Right. And 483 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: then that lasted for about five hundred years, and then 484 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: finally in the late twentieth century, thanks to the nineteen sixties, 485 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: people began to loosen up again and get climbed back 486 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: into the sauna right, and the sauna immediately became associated 487 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: with sex again, like the gay bath houses that we 488 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: were talking about. Have you ever seen in the band 489 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: played on? Uh No, but my brother worked on that. 490 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: I think we talked about that. Um and I think 491 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: you said they your brother worked on it too, But um, 492 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: Phil Collins plays a bath house owner, and I think 493 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: it's Richard Gear who's like trying to track patient zero, 494 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: is trying to convince him to like shut down the 495 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: bath house because there's like this epidemic that no one's 496 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: paying attention to. That back then they called gay cancer, 497 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: which is now called HIV or AIDS. They called the 498 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: gay cancer they did originally crazy Yeah, um, and so 499 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: the bath houses featured prominently, and Sauna's feature prominently in 500 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: the bath Houses Phil Collins, Phil Collins SUSU studio was Yeah, 501 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: they did a good job the bath house. I think 502 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: we talked about what a good job Phil Collins did too. Dude, 503 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: that was a long time ago. So if that's the case, 504 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: then people, you know, that's like a two year old podcast. 505 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: So I don't mind repeating things every once in a while. 506 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: We should do one on things to do with the 507 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: Dead body or synesthesia. That'd be a great one. That's 508 00:28:49,800 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: what SKO shouldn't. That's what sk so chuck. The saunas 509 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: make their comeback now. You can find them at holiday 510 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: inns around the world. Actually it's not true. I've never 511 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: seen a sauna at a holiday in since they had 512 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: my last really crappy job. They had um a gem 513 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: in the building, which was one cool part because you 514 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: could go down, like during lunch and work out and 515 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: they had a saun in there and I would work 516 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: out and then I would could theoretically I did for 517 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: a time, and I would go sit in the sauna 518 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: and it's just the best man. Yeah, just sitting there 519 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: just like there's something. I see why the intercourse happened, 520 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: because there's something very primal about just sitting there naked 521 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: and just sweating and sweating and sweating. But I never 522 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: had a desire to like eat food or meet anyone special. 523 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Is that clear? Yeah? I 524 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: got it. I get hint hint um. For those of 525 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 1: you can't see, I just winked that, chuck um uh 526 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: so chuck. Let's say that you have been inspired to 527 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: go out to take a sauna from listening to this, 528 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: because there's actually something called sauna etiquette that you need 529 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: to know about. First of all, if you're in a 530 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: country and they speak German and you decide to go 531 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: to a sauna, there will be a person in there 532 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: named the sauna maister. The sona maister is in charge 533 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: for basically running a very strict ten minute session where 534 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: your entire job is to go in there and sit 535 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: down and shut up, right. Uh, basically follow the son 536 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: of Myster's lead. You're not allowed to leave once the 537 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: ten minutes has started. You're not allowed to come in 538 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: once the ten minutes. Definitely, never ever put your hands 539 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: on that later. No, that's the son of master's job. 540 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: Do not wet the rocks if you have a son 541 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: of mister. No, that's that's the song. And I got 542 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: the impression. I was looking around, I couldn't find anything 543 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: that wasn't in German and that I could translate. Um, 544 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: but I get the impression that the sona myster is 545 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: actually a paid professional. Well I hope, because if someone's 546 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: just doing that for kicks, then no, you know, there's 547 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: like jerks out there, They're like, I'm the so on 548 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: a monster, come here, all the time. Yeah, it's like 549 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: no one a mister. It just goes on like that 550 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: for a long time. And then they wrist wrestle and 551 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: what's that? Yeah, they like wrestle. Yeah with that with 552 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: just towels on. God, how about those guys that walk 553 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: around the gym with the towel over their shoulder but naked, 554 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: I know? And why are they always like seventy I know? 555 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: And they pretend like, hey, everybody else is subject to 556 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: the Protestant Reformation. I'm free. It's like put a towel on, hippie. 557 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't even like, I'm this close to being a 558 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: never nude myself, are you? I don't like you have 559 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: the Denom jeans. Yeah, shower with Denom jeans now, But 560 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I mean, I'm I'm not into that. 561 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: Put some clothes on. Protestant Reformation. No one can escape it. Yeah, 562 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: no one escapes the Protestant Reformation the sun myself. So lastly, 563 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: with sauna etiquette, basically the whole thing comes down to 564 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: putting the ladle on. If you're alone in the sauna, 565 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: feel free to add some loyally, Yeah, do whatever you want. 566 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: Somebody in there. It's probably one of those things where 567 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: you want to be quiet and then just say, hey, 568 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: do you mind if I put some water on the rocks. 569 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a pretty quiet environment. Don't go 570 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: in there like some chowder head with your cell phone. Right, 571 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: and um, when you go in and out, you want 572 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: to come in in out as fast as possible because 573 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: that open door changes the temperature very quickly. Right, and 574 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: just be considered, don't be a jerky. I saw him. 575 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: That just reminded me. I saw The War of the 576 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: Roses again the End of the Night for like the 577 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: fiftieth time. And remember Kathleen Turner locks Michael Douglas and 578 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: the sauna, and then the next shot after he like 579 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: some like falls out of the sauna is him drinking 580 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: gatorade in the office. The next day He's got like 581 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: a gallon of gatorade. And that was good. Didn't Danny 582 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: de Vito directly? Man, this is one of my favorite movies. 583 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: Has a brilliant mind. Lastly, Chuck, let's talk about the 584 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: world record for saunaing. Uh. There is a guy named 585 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: timok Conan. He is the world championship, Um, well, the 586 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: world record holder. Finish of course, finish. Yeah. In August 587 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: two thousand nine, he sat in a sauna. That was 588 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: he did to two hundred and thirty degrees parent height, 589 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: which is undred and ten degrees celsius, for three minutes 590 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: and forty six seconds. You can like warm food at 591 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: that temperature. You can cook food. Oh yeah, at that temperature. Uh. 592 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: That my friends of saunas. And again I think Chuck 593 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: and I would both endorse you going over to the 594 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: website how stuff works dot Com typing in saunas and 595 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: just reading this really well written article by Robert Lamb 596 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: in particular, enjoy it. Yeah, then informative. Uh. And since 597 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: I said how stuff works dot Com, I'm largely abandoning 598 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: the handy search bar thing. I think that's run its course. Really. Yeah, 599 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: So the new the new signal for for um listener 600 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: mail is how stuff works dot Com. Oh really? Yeah? Okay? 601 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Watch I would say it again because I wasn't ready. 602 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: I was still in handy search bar mode. Okay. Uh, 603 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: you want to just go over and read saunas at 604 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot Com watch us see so you 605 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: know I can say now it's time for listener mail. 606 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: I can't control it. I used to be able to 607 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: control a lot more when I said handy search barah. 608 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: But oh look it just happened that chu chiming all 609 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: over the I need to not say anything else. Okay, 610 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: let's just read the listener mail. How about that, Josh, 611 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this, uh take that Colbet. Oh yeah, Colbert. 612 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: I recently heard this from Scott in Connecticut. Is that 613 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: what c T is? Yeah? Okay, I recently heard about 614 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: your rivalry with Stephen Colbert's Keep a Team. Congratulations on 615 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: your success. I'm a fan of both your podcast and 616 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: his show, which is cool. But he has uh he 617 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: says he wasn't gonna choose sides until late one night 618 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: when this happened. I know, this is pretty amazing. It's 619 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: slightly harrowing. I was up late and winding from a 620 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: long day of working class. I was listening to some 621 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: vintage s Y s K the Bhutan's Gross National National 622 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: Happiness episode. After a little while, I noticed a strange smell, 623 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: a little like overheated electronics. Yeah, ozone, Yeah, this is 624 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 1: a scary smell. I sniffed around my computer and noticed 625 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: that it seemed to be stronger near the door to 626 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: the rest of my apartment opened it and this visible 627 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: wave of thick, acrid smoke and gas poured into my room. 628 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: I ran to wake my housemates, opening as many windows 629 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: as I could to vent out some of the gas. 630 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm a smart guy. Uh. It literally tasted like burning. 631 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: Our eyes and throats were stinging, and we called the 632 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: fire department. They arrived. They found our oil furnace had 633 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: basically imploded. Um, those things are dangerous. What oil burnings? Yes, 634 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: this I don't know where he isn't get a letter 635 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: from the oil burning up board. Okay, remind me to 636 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: tell you about high for your toast corn syrup letter. 637 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: One day, the basement was loaded with carbon monoxide and 638 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: other compounds you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley, 639 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: and it had been leaking up into the rest of 640 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: the apartment. Not for your podcast, I would have gone 641 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: to bed earlier, never noticed that smell. This is why 642 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: I mentioned Colbert, you may wonder. As it turns out, 643 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: my roommate Caitlin, had been watching Colbert upstairs and she 644 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: fell asleep. She was tripping z s when I woke 645 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: her up and pulled her to safety. Where was Stephen 646 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: Colbert in our time of need. He may have a 647 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: space treadmill named after him and a high profile primetime 648 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: TV show, but he's no substitute for s Y s 649 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: K when it comes to riveting and informating, informative late 650 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: night life saving. I thought I would add another game 651 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: winning point for team s Y s K Scott in Connecticut. 652 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: He's also no s y s K when it comes 653 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: to raising donation loans for the developing world, because we 654 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: beat the tar out of him on Kiva. Yeah, Kiva 655 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: dot org slash team Slash stuff. You should know, Chuck, 656 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: we indirectly save these people's lives. You realize we've saved 657 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: it quite a few lives at this point, my friend, 658 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: if only we've been there for the family at the 659 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: end of storytelling. Yeah, I want to know if we've 660 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: killed and oh god, so awesome. You're so hooked on 661 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: us now. I love that guy. Todd Solins, if you're listening, 662 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate your work, buddy, Yeah I do too. Yeah. 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