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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory Podcast,

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Speaker 1: episode forty seven. I am your host, Brad Roland, coming

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Speaker 1: to you on a Tuesday evening, and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my usual co host. It's been a while, Scott Coleman.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, I am doing great. A little behind the curtains.

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Speaker 2: You and I were supposed to record a show this

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Speaker 2: past Sunday evening in our normal slot. And for folks

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Speaker 2: who don't know, I live on the West Coast out

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Speaker 2: here in Arizona. Other than being hot, it is generally

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Speaker 2: a pretty mild and not a crazy climate. But we

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Speaker 2: got an all timer of a storm on Sunday evening

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Speaker 2: that knocked the power out for hours, Trees down, power

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Speaker 2: lines down, so Brad had to go solo for twenty

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Speaker 2: some admitutes. So I appreciate you filling in for me,

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Speaker 2: and thankfully the air conditioning came back at some point

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Speaker 2: because I was starting to go a little delirious with

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Speaker 2: the heat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can only imagine I'm actually out somewhat near

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Speaker 1: you at this moment. I am covering the Atlanta Hawks

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Speaker 1: at Las Vegas Summer League, and I have been here

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Speaker 1: for a long time already, so I'm already going delirious.

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Speaker 1: You may notice, if you're a regular listener, I'm not

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Speaker 1: in my usual setup, so apologies for that, but hopefully

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Speaker 1: it sounds decent enough from this hotel room. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are part of the Foul Territory Network. If you

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Speaker 1: slate of Foul Territory offering, including the main show. They

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Speaker 1: do a great job over there covering the entire baseball world.

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Speaker 1: And also please subscribe, rate, and review the Hammer Territory

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Speaker 1: podcast anywhere you might find podcasts, Apple, Spotify, Overcast, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: We would definitely appreciate your support on all of that,

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Speaker 1: and we should also plug you talked about the solo

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Speaker 1: show that I did on Sunday, which certainly is listenable

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Speaker 1: still if you want to listen to my voice. But

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Speaker 1: we also have another show from Monday evening that featured Scott's,

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Speaker 1: Steven Tolbert and Sean Coleman kind of coming together for

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Speaker 1: our first ever I believe, three person podcast on Hammer Territory,

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Speaker 1: and that was mostly centered on the outfield. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you want to add anything to that now,

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Speaker 1: we'll probably come back to the outfit a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on in this podcast, Scott, But as a listener,

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Speaker 1: I very much enjoyed that one, and I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: had fun recording it with all three of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great to do a three man pod.

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Speaker 2: Took me back to the days of you, I and

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Speaker 2: Eric Cole doing the three man shows back on Battery

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Speaker 2: Power and Talking Chop back in the day. And if

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Speaker 2: folks didn't get a chance to listen to it, we

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Speaker 2: talked for maybe forty minutes on the current state of

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Speaker 2: the outfield and who the Braves might go target. We

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Speaker 2: are going to do a broader overview of the whole

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Speaker 2: roster tonight, but clearly, or at least as things stand today,

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Speaker 2: outfield is the biggest question for the Braves. You know,

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Speaker 2: you are not getting Ron Lacuna Junior back, and there

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Speaker 2: is a real hole there. And sure, maybe you could

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Speaker 2: argue that shortstop has a pressing need as well, well,

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Speaker 2: but there are just so many more options to fill

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Speaker 2: thought it was a really good discussion and we're checking

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Speaker 1: Already, definitely that could be listening to on its own

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Speaker 1: and also in conjunction with this episode, and we're trying

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Speaker 1: to fill everyone's podcast feeds during the All Star break.

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Speaker 1: We are recording this again on Tuesday evening, actually during

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Speaker 1: the All Star Game, because Scott and I are not

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Speaker 1: the biggest All Star Game people in the world. But

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Speaker 1: it was good timing for everybody involved, and this has

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Speaker 1: half quot unquote, because the Brace will play again until Friday.

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Speaker 1: We will be planning to have another show between now

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Speaker 1: But it's actually a round number two, Scott, because as

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Speaker 1: of right now we record this, it is pretty much

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Speaker 1: exactly two weeks until the deadline, which is this year

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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, July thirtieth. It's at six pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of the state of affairs, state of

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Speaker 1: I got promise you that, Scott, it's not a very

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Speaker 2: Well, and there has already been a little bit of

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Speaker 2: your roster is your roster. There is no more of

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Speaker 2: if an injury came up. The Braves are locked in,

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Speaker 2: just like all twenty nine other teams are, so hopefully

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Speaker 2: Just makes for more fun and more entertaining.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree with that, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: It's just that there are more buyers than sellers at

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Speaker 1: But look, there will still be deals that get done

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Speaker 1: and the Braves I would be surprised. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you, Scott Le's just start here. Would you be

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they are going to necessarily make

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, minimal was interesting because you know, we

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Speaker 1: So even if nothing else, they might just do that.

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Speaker 2: Mostly, Yeah, I think you almost have to go out

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Speaker 2: That night, we talked about this quite a bit on

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Speaker 3: It may not be a star, it might not be.

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Speaker 3: It may not be a star, it may.

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Speaker 2: Not be a complete zero, and there are quite a

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Speaker 1: Speaking of shortstop, let's just start there as far as

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Speaker 1: But shortstop is the position where I guess, correct me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is few and far between the ability to

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Speaker 2: because frankly, the good ones rarely get moved, and they're

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Speaker 2: Go to fangrafts, go to the leaderboards, search by shortstops

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Speaker 2: and just look at all of the starting caliber shortstops

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Speaker 2: but just to set the stage, because I actually got

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure the Braves would love to upgrade shortstop

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, between these three options, it's pretty

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It may get so bad with Orlando at some point

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. And now let's just talk quickly

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Speaker 2: Offensively talking about De Young, and that's something the Braves

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Braves came together and said what are

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna cut him, They're not gonna dfa him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do have Orlando there. Should it just go poorly?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on some lists that you would see of

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Speaker 1: of see what you can figure out there. Bashett has

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Speaker 1: done a lot more than Kelenic has ever done in

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Speaker 1: the majors before it got to Atlanta, but there's kind

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Speaker 1: of maybe a parallel there. I don't know if the

435
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Speaker 1: praise would be the team that would do that on Bashett,

436
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Speaker 1: But again not to beliebor the point, they're just they're

437
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Speaker 1: just not names out there, and maybe there would be

438
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Speaker 1: a surprise name that emerges. Like we're still two weeks away,

439
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Speaker 1: but by all accounts, it seems like Deyong is the

440
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Speaker 1: guy everyone agrees is going to be available, and Bashett's

441
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Speaker 1: the sleeper with upside, and I don't really see another

442
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Speaker 1: name that we can even worth talking about. I mean,

443
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong about that, but I just didn't see

444
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Speaker 1: anybody else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when alex Entthopolis trades for somebody tomorrow morning, we

446
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Speaker 2: can laugh and say.

447
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Speaker 1: I did we not think of him, because that's what

448
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Speaker 1: that's happened before.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah, many times.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's why he's paid to do what he

451
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Speaker 1: does and why we're doing this. But no, it's again,

452
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at lists another list right now. I mean

453
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Speaker 1: you could if you wanted to get crazy and start

454
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Speaker 1: aiming higher of guys that would just would be shocking

455
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Speaker 1: that they're even available than sure, And that's one of

456
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Speaker 1: those things that we don't have the intel on. But

457
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Speaker 1: once the team just is like bizarrely soured on a

458
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Speaker 1: player behind the scenes that we don't know about, they're

459
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Speaker 1: not a ton of names and that's kind of why.

460
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Speaker 1: So we'll finish off with short Stop on this. Do

461
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Speaker 1: you think they're gonna do anything with tros Stop?

462
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Speaker 2: No?

463
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Speaker 3: I do not.

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Speaker 1: I don't either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm leaning towards no.

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Speaker 2: And one note that we made on the show last night,

467
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Speaker 2: when we were talking about the outfield, is this, and

468
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Speaker 2: it's worth mentioning again. Once Michael Harris comes back in centerfield,

469
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Speaker 2: you get to shift keuntly to a corner. Let's say

470
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Speaker 2: that hypothetically Alex goes out and adds a pretty good

471
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Speaker 2: corner outfielder as well. All of a sudden, your one

472
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Speaker 2: through eight in the lineup looks really damn good. And

473
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Speaker 2: I think you can hide a not hitting Orlando Arcia

474
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Speaker 2: or a rookie Nacho Alvarez in that ninth spot so

475
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Speaker 2: much easier when you have Harris back, when you've added

476
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Speaker 2: another outfielder at the trade deadline, Hopefully you get a

477
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Speaker 2: bounce back from Matt Olsen, Ozzie Alby's players that we

478
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Speaker 2: know are capable of more than what they have shown

479
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Speaker 2: so far. Maybe Sean Murphy continues to wake up a bit.

480
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Speaker 2: I think this lineup can be more than successful and

481
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Speaker 2: more than good enough if they're able to address the

482
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Speaker 2: outfield adequately and then also get healthy in the outfield.

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Speaker 2: Even if your ninth hole hitter is basically a zero,

484
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Speaker 2: I think you can survive with that as long as

485
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Speaker 2: we get some of these bounce backs that we're hoping

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Speaker 2: for from the.

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Speaker 3: Top of the lineup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if anything, that might push Alex to

489
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Speaker 1: be even more judicious and not trade for someone because

490
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Speaker 1: you have Orlando and they do trust his glove if

491
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Speaker 1: nothing else, and they like him and he's a good

492
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Speaker 1: clubhouse guy, all those things. So that's the situation at shortstop.

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Speaker 1: Will be a little bit more brief in a second

494
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Speaker 1: when it comes to pitching, but first work more partners.

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Speaker 1: On today's podcast, all right, Scott, let us at least

496
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Speaker 1: mention the pitching potential. Don't really have a need anywhere

497
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Speaker 1: when it comes to pitching. That is number one. Number

498
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Speaker 1: two is a need in pitching can arrive quickly because

499
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Speaker 1: the old saying does hold. You can't have too much pitching.

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Speaker 1: The Braves have a lot of pitching. They have four

501
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Speaker 1: absolute rotation locks right now unless they unless they get

502
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Speaker 1: hurt with Freed, Sale, Lopez and Morton. They have Schwellenbach

503
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Speaker 1: has been awesome recently. They have other guys who've been

504
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Speaker 1: up before, Elder Smith, Shover, Dylman, Dad Darius Finds, Alan Winden's,

505
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Speaker 1: Ian Intererson's on the way back, maybe even you know,

506
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Speaker 1: like that's a lot of names and then the bullpen

507
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Speaker 1: has been quite quite good this season. So why am

508
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Speaker 1: I bringing this up?

509
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Speaker 3: Like?

510
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Speaker 1: What are we what are we talking about here? I

511
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Speaker 1: guess is the question. But my rebonts of myself would

512
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Speaker 1: because you always have to bring it up.

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted to do kind of a more complete

514
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Speaker 2: overhaul and a complete look at this, at this roster.

515
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Speaker 2: And the good news, and I am knocking on every

516
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Speaker 2: piece of wood within a mile of me, is that

517
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Speaker 2: the Braves currently do not have any issues in the

518
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Speaker 2: starting rotation. It has been probably the best rotation in

519
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Speaker 2: baseball over the last month and a half. They lead

520
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Speaker 2: an era. It really is just a fantastic group right now.

521
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Speaker 2: And not only do you like your big five, especially

522
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Speaker 2: the way that Schwellenbach has turned it on, but I mean,

523
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Speaker 2: if Bryce Elder is your sixth, that's totally fine. I

524
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Speaker 2: think we're all pretty bullish on a J. Smith Shauver,

525
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Speaker 2: who just made a relief appearance with Gwinnette the other night.

526
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Speaker 2: So Smith Shaver's waiting if it's not ideal, But if

527
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Speaker 2: you had to give the ball to a Darius Vines

528
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Speaker 2: or Alan Winen's against a bad opponent, that's not impossible

529
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Speaker 2: to win. That night, and then Ian Anderson is kind

530
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Speaker 2: of the wild card in all of this, and so far,

531
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Speaker 2: so good with his rehab. So I think the rotation

532
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Speaker 2: is in pretty good shape. You just about always have

533
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Speaker 2: to overpay for starting pitching. Maybe Alex will want to

534
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Speaker 2: just kind of build on his abundance of riches and

535
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Speaker 2: try to add one more starting pitch. But I mean,

536
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Speaker 2: just from a roster construction and space perspective, it's going

537
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Speaker 2: to be really tough to even squeeze one more starter

538
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Speaker 2: into this team.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we agree, and can't you just here. I guess

540
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Speaker 1: maybe if Chip is still around, we would get the

541
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Speaker 1: Ian Anderson. It's just it's just as good as making

542
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Speaker 1: a trade comment at some point.

543
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Speaker 2: Like making a trade without having to make a trade. Brad,

544
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Speaker 2: I can, oh, now, it's beautiful.

545
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Speaker 1: Just had to flashback. Yeah, No, I think that you're

546
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Speaker 1: all that's right. And I have to say I still

547
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Speaker 1: would not be shocked if Alex went added a boring

548
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Speaker 1: depth starter. I just I just wouldn't be I would

549
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Speaker 1: be shocked if he'd named if you got one of

550
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Speaker 1: the bigger names, like you know, Jack Flaherty's out there,

551
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Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet is out there, that would surprise me, just

552
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Speaker 1: because there are other teams that just like have such

553
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Speaker 1: a huge need for pitching, the Braves don't have that,

554
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Speaker 1: that have more more to offer, et cetera. But I'm

555
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Speaker 1: telling you next two weeks if I got a notification

556
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Speaker 1: that that basically they add the equivalent of which one

557
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: of my old favorites do I want to name right now?

558
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Speaker 2: Let's go with Let's go with Drew Smiley.

559
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Speaker 1: Drew Smiley would be on the list for sure of

560
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Speaker 1: a guy that I used to defend to the death,

561
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Speaker 1: like that, that kind of guy, like, not someone who's

562
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Speaker 1: better than any of their top four, but someone who

563
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Speaker 1: if they need six innings on a Thursday in August,

564
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Speaker 1: could deliver those innings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think one point I wanted to make on

567
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Speaker 2: as we're talking about the rotation. For my money, if

568
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Speaker 2: the Braves are going to make a deep run into

569
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Speaker 2: October and November, they have to get a healthy Max

570
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Speaker 2: Breed and a healthy Chris Sale to the playoffs. I

571
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Speaker 2: don't know if you feel differently, Brad, but that pair

572
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Speaker 2: being healthy and firing going into October is so damn

573
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: important for this team because you cannot come even close

574
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Speaker 2: to replacing what they can do. I know Garrett Crochet

575
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Speaker 2: has been fantastic, but he is not a realistic target

576
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Speaker 2: for the Braves. A team like the Dodgers, who have

577
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Speaker 2: been estimated by pitching injuries. They are going to throw

578
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Speaker 2: every prospect imaginable to fix their rotation, and the Braves

579
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Speaker 2: just aren't going to get into a bidding war with them.

580
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Speaker 2: And it's not like LA is the only team that's

581
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Speaker 2: looking for impact pitching. I really do think that just

582
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Speaker 2: the Brave season is ultimately going to be determined by

583
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Speaker 2: two things. One if the lineup can find any kind

584
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Speaker 2: of consistency in the second half, and two if they

585
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Speaker 2: can get the rotation to the playoffs healthy and firing,

586
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Speaker 2: because the last two years that has not been the case.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right, one hundred percent. They just have to, yeah,

588
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Speaker 1: because they're not going to be able to replicate that

589
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Speaker 1: anywhere else. And you know, I do think that those

590
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Speaker 1: two names are the right ones if something happened to well.

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Speaker 1: As good as Renaldo has been this year, I don't

592
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Speaker 1: think either of us believe that he is that level

593
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Speaker 1: of pitcher in the grand scheme of things. He hasn't

594
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Speaker 1: been this year, So shots to him. Pube me continues

595
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: or Charlie. As much as I defend Charlie, he is

596
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: not like a shutdown ACE at this point in his career.

597
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Speaker 1: So the top, their top two are their top to

598
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: for a reason, and getting to the playoffs with those

599
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: guys healthy is important. And that's why they treated Sale

600
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Speaker 1: the way they did this weekend for instance, like they

601
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: limited Sale to five innings on Sunday. People were mad

602
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: about that. It's like, guys, he's in his mid thirties.

603
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Speaker 1: They're just trying to get him all the way to

604
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Speaker 1: the end. That's all.

605
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: Yes, win the war, not the battle. And I will

606
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Speaker 2: say Brad, just to officially get it on the podcast

607
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Speaker 2: record here. Aj Smith Shover having a real impact in

608
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Speaker 2: the second half of the year would not be a

609
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Speaker 2: surprise to me at all. I think he is a

610
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Speaker 2: power arm who could really make an impact both in

611
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Speaker 2: the regular season and even in the playoffs. I would

612
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Speaker 2: love for him to get some more innings during August

613
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Speaker 2: and September, so then he's just been through the motions

614
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Speaker 2: a little bit more. Should you need him in a

615
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Speaker 2: postseason where the crowd is going to be nuts and

616
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Speaker 2: everything just kind of ramps up and goes zero to

617
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Speaker 2: one hundred so quickly. So do not be surprised if

618
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Speaker 2: aj Smith Schauv at some point in the second half

619
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Speaker 2: has a real impact on this team.

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Speaker 1: Your Colner shot now, and I appreciate that because I

621
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Speaker 1: think that makes it a lot of sense to me,

622
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Speaker 1: given the upside of his arm at twenty one years old,

623
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Speaker 1: how hardy throws, et cetera. On the bullpen side, I

624
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Speaker 1: know I said it before, but they really are really

625
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Speaker 1: pretty loaded right now. They're top three in baseball and

626
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Speaker 1: ERA and FIP and underlying metrics, et cetera. Glaciers, Samenez,

627
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Speaker 1: Mentor Johnson, Bummer, Jesse Chavez, Dilanley, Grant Holmes, Baseball Hernandez.

628
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Speaker 1: Like they're really really good there. But the same thing applies.

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Speaker 1: Alex tends to try to find a reliever somewhere under

630
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Speaker 1: a rock. Maybe it's this year's version of Aaron Bummer

631
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Speaker 1: who has a bad ERA but great peripherals and is

632
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Speaker 1: getting overlooked. That kind of thing. But the same principle

633
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Speaker 1: for me, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they

634
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Speaker 1: trade for reliever and brace basically like, why did they

635
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Speaker 1: need a reliever? And it's and Alex says, because you

636
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: can't have too many.

637
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Speaker 2: You can never have too many relievers, and I would

638
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: imagine that Alex will be pretty selective with who he's

639
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Speaker 2: going to add, or at least try to add. You

640
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: make a great point, Aaron Bummer. On the surface, his

641
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: numbers were terrible last year. Last year at the trade

642
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: deadline when he traded for Pierce Johnson, everyone was like,

643
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: what are they doing? This guy has an era and

644
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: the sixes, and we know what Pierce Johnson has done

645
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: over the last calendar year for this bullpen. So I

646
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Speaker 2: don't think that the big names are necessarily going to

647
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: be in the realm of possibilities for the Braves. Of course,

648
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: relievers are always a dime a dozen come trade deadline time,

649
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: but I would not be surprised if Alex goes out

650
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: and tries to look for perhaps another power right handed arm,

651
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: going back to the injury concerned that every team has.

652
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: If something happens to raycell Iglesias, Joejimenez or Pierce Johnson,

653
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: suddenly you only have two power relievers from that right

654
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: handed side. You know, I love the story of Jesse Chavez,

655
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: but I don't know if you want Jesse to be

656
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: your number three right handed arm going into a playoff series.

657
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: Grant Holmes is the man, but same story. I don't

658
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: know he's never done it before. Day's Bell again, same story.

659
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: So I think if they were going to add to

660
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: the bullpen, I think they're probably good from the left side.

661
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: But if Alex is going to go out and try

662
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: to identify aariety who would not cost a ton but

663
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: has some real upside, I would not be surprised in

664
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: the least.

665
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree aim high. If he wants to unearth

666
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: one of his gems, that would be totally fine with us,

667
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: but not necessarily an area of NEE just wanted to

668
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: at least to flag it because he seems to always

669
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: be looking for someone to find in that realm. And

670
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: the last thing, of course, is the outfield, because respectfully,

671
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: they're not there. They don't have needs at catcher or

672
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 1: first base or second base or third base. And we

673
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: was talking about short stuf already, so we went along

674
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: a gat one more plug. Listen to the show from

675
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Monday night. I was not on it, and that made

676
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: the show better. I do think that, and you guys

677
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: did mention this. But all things equal, I would like

678
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: someone who hits right handed pitching very well. If you

679
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: could be that selective, maybe you can't be that selective,

680
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: and it's easier to find relievers, which is the point

681
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: you just made. But as Alex proved three calendar years ago,

682
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: you could fight outfielders. They are available. Do you want

683
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: to list? You want to read this list of names

684
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: that we compile. It's very long. There are lots of names.

685
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and frankly we could probably list off like thirty

686
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: or forty names, oh, potential outfielders. But let's just kind

687
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: of speak them all out there and maybe we'll pick

688
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: one or two or three to talk about. But I mean,

689
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: let's let's talk big and then go small. Luis Robert,

690
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Brent Rooker, Randy A. Rosarina, Taylor Ward, your guy, Jem Yeah,

691
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: my very official prediction, Jazz Chisholm, Michael Confordo, Jesse Winker,

692
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Jesus Sanchez, Lane Thomas, Tommy fam very good old friend,

693
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: Jock Peterson, Miguel and Douhar. I mean, that's what a

694
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: dozen names, and we could probably list two more dozen

695
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: and again, go on fangrabs pull up all the outfielders

696
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: in baseball and just kind of it's a fun game

697
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: to play trying to figure out who could be available

698
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: and who fits for the Braves. It is going to

699
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: be fascinating to see what Alex does. We talked at

700
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: length on the show last night about the rental verse

701
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: long term right handed versus left handed. There's so many

702
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: things to keep into account here, and it's gonna be

703
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: a lot of fun to see what ultimately shakes out,

704
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: because there are some interesting players here who would really

705
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: help this team. This is entirely my fault because I

706
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: made this list, but we have to mention Kevin Pilar's name.

707
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: How did I listen? He's having a great year.

708
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Braves legend, Kevin Pillar, who's going to retire at the

709
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: end of the season. He said, one last ride with

710
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: Kevin Pilar and the and the avenue of all midseason

711
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: trade slot. What are we doing here?

712
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: Just get the whole farm back together. I love it.

713
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead and highlight that one in highlight

714
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: er ink whatever it's going to be. Yeah, I mean

715
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: Luis Robert would surprise me. That would be uh. He'd

716
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: be the one on that list that would, like, you know,

717
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: it's just gonna cost a lot, I think, But and

718
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: maybe Jash shows him just because of like, you know,

719
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: I think he'll cost a lot too, and he's he's

720
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: probably the most fans player of this list. But all

721
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: of these guys would help. Jack Pearson is on your

722
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: arizone Diamondbacks right now. He probably can't play defense anymore,

723
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: but he's been mashing. The Dbacks are kind of in

724
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: the race, but people asking by him all the time.

725
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: And Aharr is on the A's And I don't know

726
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: if you're familiar with the Scott that the Braves made some

727
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: trades with the A's in recent years. Yeah, we have

728
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: to get our quota for the year, so with the

729
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: as I mean, also, he's cheap. I should have mentioned

730
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: that one point seven million dollars for Enduhar this year. So,

731
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: and even JJ Bledat is now with Oakland. He's a

732
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: lefty who has a couple of things in his profile

733
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: that might be appealing to the Braves.

734
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: I mean maybe it's I mean again, man, we could

735
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: probably list off thirty years here.

736
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to do this without like intel,

737
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: because that's what I always doing on my baseball on

738
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: my basketball show. I should say, it's like people always

739
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: want fake trades and it's like, yeah, I could with

740
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: the fake trade, but unless there's like some sort of

741
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: intel pointing to a player, it's kind of a fruitless

742
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: exercise because, especially with outfielders, there are just so it's

743
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of shortstop, where we could come up

744
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: with a list of two that we did not to

745
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: go back to the same list again, but only trade rumors.

746
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: I think there's there are like twelve or thirteen outfielders

747
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: on this list out of fifty, so like almost a

748
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: quarter of the list as outfielders. There's a reason for that. So,

749
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, Rooker is a name another A's guy that

750
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: I would like to see. He's not a great defender either,

751
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 1: but he can he can mash. Oh it came up today,

752
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: I'll tee you up. Jesse Winker has a nice profile

753
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: baseball wise for what the Braves might look at. But

754
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: you want to have some stuff that we should at

755
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: least know. We don't know anythink about necessarily directly. But

756
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: what did you find in researching Jesse Winker?

757
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think from a on paper perspective, Jesse Winker,

758
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: who is a lefty and a pending free agent, makes

759
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. He's having a really good year.

760
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: There was some reporting done by the Mariners beat reporter

761
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times that Winker has had

762
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: some real clubhouse issues, both in Seattle as well as Milwaukee,

763
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: just kind of rubbing teammates the wrong way, questioning his

764
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: work ethic. Sounded like his teammates just were not fans

765
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: of his.

766
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: I don't know if that.

767
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: Will necessarily be a complete no go for Alex and Thoppless,

768
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: but we know that he cares about the clubhouse quite

769
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: a bit. So I know a few folks were like,

770
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: what about Jesse Winker? And again, it does, I think

771
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: make a lot of sense on the outside, But you

772
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: know that Alex is going to do his homework into

773
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: the player off the field, and I think I'd be

774
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: surprised if they added Winker. But again, there's just not

775
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: a perfect option out here. As we outline quite a

776
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: bit last night's show. Maybe it is Winker, Maybe it

777
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: is Heyesus Sanchez from Miami who has a crazy stat

778
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: cast profile but just has never really figured it out

779
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: in Miami. He would be kind of in that Jared

780
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: Colnick mold of trying to get a player to work

781
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: out in a different situation. Lane Thomas is another rental

782
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: player who the Braves know. Well, there's just it's it's

783
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: fun to think about. But I absolutely agree that it's

784
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: so tough to make up fake trade proposals because we

785
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: just don't know what these players are worth in the

786
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: eyes of.

787
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: A front office.

788
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Thomas and Winker are on the Nationals.

789
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: The Nationals are not like totally dead in the wild

790
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: card race, but they're probably gonna sell because they just

791
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: should sell. But that's a division rival. Maybe they don't

792
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: want to trade together. I don't know. Same thing with

793
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: the Marlins, Like you never know what comes up with

794
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: these teams. The Marlins are famously the Marlins, so they

795
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: might have some probability with trading with the Braves. I

796
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: don't know. But yeah, just to say it out loud,

797
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: Winker gets on base and is a lefty and those

798
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: that combination of things. I know we have friends that

799
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: are smart, they're smart, but baseball they're mentioning him just

800
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: because the fact that he's a left handed bat and

801
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: he gets on base. Because we've mentioned it, but we

802
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: should always say again, the Braves have an on base problem,

803
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: kind of like they don't they have a bunch of

804
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: guys who don't get on base very well.

805
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that's it.

806
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: They have a full stop on base problem because they

807
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: are dead last in the majors over the last however

808
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: many weeks.

809
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not I don't think it's that bad

810
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: in real life, like the like, the trend is worse

811
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: than their actual their actual performance probably should be. But

812
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: even with that, I mean, they're bottom ten this year

813
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: on base percentage. There are guys that we like and

814
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: that we value on this roster who are really good

815
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: players but are not on bass guys Ozzie, Michael Harris

816
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: in particular, those two. Matt Olsen is okay sometimes, but

817
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: like they don't have especially without Ronald, they don't have

818
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: the get on bass guy even one of them, much

819
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: less multiple with them. So just noting that has something

820
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: that will be a strength there of Winkler. But yeah,

821
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: we can talk about a rose Rene has always been

822
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: a popular name. He courses a playoff hero, I hit

823
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: a bat but power guy. Yeah, Oh we should also

824
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: lump just say the name out loud. Tommy fam is

825
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: kind of in the wicker category where there are always

826
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: some clubhouse questions with him. He's a good hitter, but

827
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: there's always like he can't seem to stick anywhere. He

828
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: seems to bounce around for whatever reason.

829
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably a love him and hate him type

830
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: of personality. Michael Conforto is also interesting. He's with the

831
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants.

832
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: He's been a long time, a long time favorite of

833
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: this podcast, by the way, in free agency and were

834
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: also talk talk about him all the time as a

835
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: target and they never signed him.

836
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a fan of Conforto's. I don't know if

837
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: the Giants are going to sell. They get a couple

838
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: of pitchers back in the second half and they are

839
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: not that far out from a playoff spot. But again, man,

840
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: I mean you can kind of make a four and

841
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: against case for all of these players for a wide

842
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: range of reasons, and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

843
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: Brad.

844
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: I am excited for the trade deadline. We are two

845
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: weeks away and I think there are going to be

846
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 2: enough outfielders available that Alex is going to be able

847
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: to probably have his choice between a couple of them,

848
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: and of course it's on him to evaluate what the

849
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: cost is going to be and just try to weigh

850
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: the pros and cons of the player and how they

851
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: would fit into the lineup and into the clubhouse. And

852
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: as we said a little while ago, if you can

853
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: add a competent corner outfielder, especially once Michael Harris gets back,

854
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: this lineup could go from being one that's very, very

855
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: top heavy as it currently is, to one that's genuinely

856
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: seven or eight deep every single night. And then you're

857
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: just not relying on the likes of Eli White and

858
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: God bless him, Eddie Rosario and Orlando Arcia and Adam

859
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: Duval to come through and be one of your key

860
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: bats every single game.

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00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Well, listen, you leave Adam to a lot of this.

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00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: He just turned it on.

863
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: A little bit in recent weeks, which is encouraging. But

864
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: I also just it's hard to watch him against right

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00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: handed pitching bread.

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00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it didn't used to be, don't Maybe he's

867
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: just cooked as a Maybe he's just a purefu two guy.

868
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: Now he didn't used to be that way. But yeah,

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00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: different conversation to be sure. But he has been better

870
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: in recent days. And I'm kind of joking. But also

871
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: there's this whole other subplot that we won't get into.

872
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: And now a ton about how they do have long

873
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: term commitments to Ronald Michael Harris, and they have Calen

874
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Hunter control for a long time, and they have a

875
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: DH only guy, Marcelo Azuna, who has been incredible this year.

876
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: So there isn't really a pathway right now that I

877
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: can see to them, like trading for an outfield that's

878
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: going to be a round long term. Like, it's an

879
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: interesting dichotomy there, because maybe you want Ronnie to be

880
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: able to DH some next year, as you've been pointing.

881
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: We've been leading on this honestly talking about a lot,

882
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: but as long as they have Ozuna, you kind of

883
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: can't have Ronnie DH. So it's interesting for the future.

884
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: That's a future conversation, I suppose.

885
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: But yes, yeah, it's either you add a rental which

886
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: is the cleanest way to do this, although there's not

887
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: much in the way of the rentald category, or you

888
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: add a player with control and then you just figure

889
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: it out the off season.

890
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was someone who's cheap, Like it

891
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: doesn't actually matter if it's somebody who's like on their

892
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: first contract and their pre RB or whatever or early are,

893
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because they won't be expensive enough

894
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: for it to like cause you problems. But if you're

895
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: training for someone who's like a multi year commitment expensive,

896
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: that becomes a challenge.

897
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

898
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So all things that I am sure the front

899
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: office is considering over this All Star break kind of

900
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: feels like this is an opportunity for front offices now

901
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: that the draft is behind us, that they can just

902
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: really kind of focus on who's buying, who's selling, what

903
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: are the team needs? And we should say that of course,

904
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: everything we're we're talking about on the show is is

905
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: tentative and subject to change on the chance of yet

906
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: another injury.

907
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's hope not.

908
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: You know that that obviously could change the dynamic of

909
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: the trade deadline should something happen with the roster.

910
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: For sure, And that is why you need depth across

911
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: the board. That's the reason why you bring up pitching stuff,

912
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: because while we don't need it now, they could in

913
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: her anything else you want to add, Scott on this

914
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: deadline preview episode two weeks to go, I could make

915
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: you talk about the Braves draft picks in order if

916
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: you want forget out here.

917
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, glad, that would be uh you think about that.

918
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: I can hear the one star reviews and the emails

919
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: already coming in about you guys have no idea what

920
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: you're talking about.

921
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: And that is correct. Here we're talking about with many things.

922
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: Now.

923
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 2: We hit on Caminetti a couple of times, very talented

924
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: kid just up the road, and Scottsdale actually has the

925
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: bud lines, has all the traits.

926
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: That you look for in a first round pick. So

927
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 3: who knows.

928
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: Maybe when we're doing the twenty twenty eight season predictions podcast, Brad,

929
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: we'll be talking about Caminetti as a cy young front runner.

930
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: But you know, get back to me in three years

931
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you if this was a good draft

932
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: or not.

933
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: That's right, that's definitely the tact that we'll be taking.

934
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: Perhaps I will twist the arm of Carl's closet to

935
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: come back to talk posts about the draft as a

936
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: pre draft, because I have to try to find someone

937
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: who knows things to ask about things that are above

938
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: our pay grade. Scott, thank you for being here as always,

939
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: my friend. Anything else to plug before we sign off,

940
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: other than which we've already plugged a lot, But we'll

941
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: do it again now. A really really good show, I

942
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: will say, as I was not on it, so I'm

943
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: more objective about this one. I really enjoyed the show

944
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: Monday night. People should listen to that, but anything else

945
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: going on.

946
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: Not a ton, Brad. We will get back to Atlanta

947
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: Braves Baseball on Friday with a three game series against

948
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Cardinals and then the Cincinnati Reds follow that,

949
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: so we will have plenty of game coverage. I believe

950
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: Sean and Steven are going to do a Cardinals preview

951
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: episode in the next couple of days, so be sure

952
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: to keep an eye out for that, and weather permitting,

953
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: I think you and I Brad are going to get

954
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: back into our normal Sunday time slot for the Sunday

955
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: Night show. It'll be a lot of good content here.

956
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: Of course, if there is any kind of trade movement

957
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: for the Braves, we will do one of our very

958
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: fun emergency podcasts. And again we just want to thank

959
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: everybody for all the support. Please subscribe, share the podcast

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00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,759
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961
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,120
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962
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: That's right. Please go ahead and smash the subscribe button

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964
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,600
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965
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,040
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966
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: It's not on video, but if you want to find

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969
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: about YouTube. We're there in audio form. Maybe one day

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00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,239
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00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,080
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973
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