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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. Now,

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Speaker 2: here's your host, Paul Chargion.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. It is a

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Speaker 1: calm before the storm editions training camps looming. Joining me today,

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Speaker 1: Thorn Eistrom. It's been a while, Puddy, Great to have

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Speaker 1: you back on the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, appreciated charts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good to be back and excited to talk about

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Speaker 4: some rookie running backs.

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Speaker 1: Yep, we're gonna break down hidden gems. These are all

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Speaker 1: running backs that have an ADP of two hundred or higher,

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Speaker 1: except one guy who's ADP is one hundred and seventy,

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Speaker 1: but that's still round fifteen. So these are all deep

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Speaker 1: flyers running backs the most voltable position. This is where

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Speaker 1: the guy. This is where the guy who looks like

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Speaker 1: he's third and fourth on the depth chart now heading

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Speaker 1: into training camp, pre training camp. He gets some buzz

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Speaker 1: in training camp. Look at Isaiah Pacheco as an example

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Speaker 1: for at this time three years ago, there were there

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Speaker 1: was there were very There was very little rumbling about

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Pichecko as a factor in Kansas City. Everybody at

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Speaker 1: the time, I think, was assuming Clyde Edwards Hilaire would

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Speaker 1: come back, or they they'd find some other way. But

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Speaker 1: then his training camp went on, Pachecko started to pop

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Speaker 1: in training camp and people are like, Hey, this thing

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Speaker 1: looks like it could add up. Maybe we've got Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Pichecko out of this group.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it might be the same organization, it might

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Speaker 4: be the same, but right, going back to the previous Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Pachecko was seventh round in his draft class,

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Speaker 4: and that was a circumstantial thing. A Pachecko had been

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Speaker 4: at a school that had a passing game and or

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Speaker 4: an offensive line, which the Rutgers teams he played on

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Speaker 4: did not. You wouldn't have had stack Box's again again,

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Speaker 4: Swiss She's offensive lines. It was hard to watch Pacheco's

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Speaker 4: of opportunities there. Because of that, you end up falling

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Speaker 4: down in the draft, even though he tested really, really well.

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Speaker 3: And Briard Brochard's tape is.

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Speaker 4: Better than his, but it's a small sample sized thing

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Speaker 4: and it's the position convert Tyrone Tracy the year before

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Speaker 4: with the Giants fell further in the draft than he

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Speaker 4: should have because he had the limited amount of time

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Speaker 4: at running back after transitioning over from receivers. So that's

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Speaker 4: one that deserves to be looked at very closely. And

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Speaker 4: we're going to get into a couple other situations like

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Speaker 4: that as well, with guys with profiles that need to

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Speaker 4: be studied pretty closely, especially for dynasty league owners and

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Speaker 4: then owners in deeper leagues.

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Speaker 1: We begin in Cleveland, quinch On rested and still unsigned,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, we should mention that as well.

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Speaker 1: So that's put a little bit of spotlight on Dylan

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Speaker 1: Samson previously kind of an afterthought for most of this offseason.

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Speaker 1: The kid from Tennessee drafted in the fourth is ADP.

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Speaker 1: Thor is one hundred and seventy. That's round fifteen, and

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Speaker 1: so the the you know, the ADP makes them very

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Speaker 1: very gettable. What you what are your thoughts on Dylan Samson.

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Speaker 4: I think even you know, without the Judkins stuff, I

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Speaker 4: was looking for Dylan Samson to take over as their

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Speaker 4: think that that's going to be Jerome Ford. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 4: it will be, but Jerome Ford, I think he would

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Speaker 4: pass down back. What incentive does Cleveland, one of the

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Speaker 4: to be competing for a top three, top four draft

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Speaker 4: on his contract. That the Cleveland Browns backfield going forward,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be Junkins as the meat and potatoes guy,

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Speaker 4: you hope, and then Samson as the passing down back.

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Speaker 4: I think that that starts right away more or less.

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Speaker 4: And Dylan Samson there's very attractive things about his profile.

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Speaker 4: He's a little bit of an unorthodox mover, but he

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's so there's these reasons he ended up

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Speaker 4: But he showed aptitude on the passing downs and instincts

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Speaker 4: as a runner. Right with the Tennessee offense, they spread

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Speaker 4: and the vision that he showed Dylan Samson I really liked,

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Speaker 4: and then a very fluid runner as well. But that's

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Speaker 4: out with Quinchron Jenkins. But uh, Quinchron Jenkins, it's it's

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Speaker 4: not You're not talking about a ash Genty type right

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Speaker 4: that you know, it's it's no guarantee that that he

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Speaker 3: Of percent of the workload either.

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Speaker 4: So Dylan Samson's a guy I think fantasy owners in

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that who's the better pass catcher

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Speaker 1: there's a third down role available for Samson or if

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Speaker 3: Definitely Samson.

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Speaker 4: That was that was the quote the Nippick with Junkins'

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Speaker 4: He's not a good receiver though. Where Judkins his instinct,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's the running, the meat and potatoes type

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Speaker 4: but the receiving stuff has just never completely been there.

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Speaker 4: He's not going to run routes for you beyond the

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Speaker 4: That's just not his game. And so I liked when

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Speaker 4: opening up two roster spots at running back because this

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Speaker 3: Draft, it was so so stacked right the.

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Speaker 4: they don't feel that way in hindsight after Quinnjohn Jenkins's

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Speaker 4: An argument to be made that he was one of

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Speaker 4: the production over time. Yeah, he paled in comparison a

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Speaker 1: What I really like about Samson, Dude's a fighter man.

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Speaker 1: He is. There are no easy tackles with him. He

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Speaker 1: let's go to the Los Angeles Rams Jarquez Hunter going

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Speaker 1: This is the fourth rounder from Auburn. He was the

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Speaker 4: also he has like a he presents a hurkiye jerky

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Speaker 3: He hasn't he has an instinct for running the rams. Uh.

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Speaker 4: They're often looking for the guys on tape that that

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Speaker 4: some of these offensive players that end up being better

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Speaker 4: they're certainly better. And Hunter is a home run hitter

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Speaker 4: That's where it comes back to that hurky jerky thing,

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Speaker 4: On Jerks Hunter, that's ninety third percentile, his twenty yard split,

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Speaker 4: eighty seventh percentile, seventy first percentile athlete overall. You were

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Speaker 4: lot of pressure that was on Jerks Hunter. He faced

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Speaker 4: then you have sort of an amalgamation of traits from there.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned He's not a stiff side to side. He

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Speaker 4: also has that north south burst. So jerk as Hunter

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Speaker 4: care where you've got drafted. Yeah, they will play the

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Speaker 4: best player. And I think Hunter is going to come in.

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna use Surp Korum quick and then

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Speaker 4: You can't have Kien Williams having three hundred plus touches

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Speaker 4: would make sense for Jaikas Hunter to be getting that

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Speaker 4: It's exceedingly difficult for players of those positions to cover them.

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Speaker 1: Now, we don't have to necessarily love all the players

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Speaker 4: He was right about how I turned a passing school

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Speaker 4: into a running school. At the last two years Tums

432
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 4: Brooks in twenty twenty three, fifteen hundred and thirty eight

433
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 4: yards on the ground.

434
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Speaker 3: Last year fifteen oh five.

435
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 4: Again, that's a team that wanted to run the air

436
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 4: raid and had an air raid offensive coordinator.

437
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 3: But Todje Brooks was good enough that you know that

438
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 3: that's what ended up happening there.

439
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 4: He also did plenty as a receiver twenty nine catches

440
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 4: the one year, twenty eight last year. And then here's

441
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 4: the biggest thing of how I know I'm not not.

442
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 4: I believe one hundred percent that Todge Brooks is going

443
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 4: to carve out a role this year because he was

444
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 4: one of the best pass blocking running backs in this

445
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 4: past draft class. That is why Cincinnati targeted him where

446
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 4: they did.

447
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow keeps getting plastic getting killed, right.

448
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 4: Weeke in and week out. The guys a freaking crash

449
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 4: test dummy. And you know, you look at the quarterback

450
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 4: hits here and then the past couple of years, and

451
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 4: when Joe Burrow has been on the field, he gets

452
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 4: hit more than any other quarterback in the NFL. And

453
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 4: yet Cincinnati has they have not done much to fortify

454
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 4: that offensive line. We saw teams that had offensive line

455
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: issues this offseason that aggressively attacked at the Bears, the

456
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 4: vice Gangs. We could go on and on Cincinnati. It's

457
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 4: like every year they're like, oh no, Joe will figure

458
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: it out again. This small little concession that they did

459
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 4: for Joe Burrow was getting him a little bodyguard for

460
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 4: passing downs.

461
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Speaker 3: That's TODs Brooks.

462
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: You're gonna see TODG Brooks out there because todgs Brooks

463
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 4: is really good at swiping out the knees and or

464
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 4: taking on the chest that the first guy through the gates,

465
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 4: and invariably with the Bengals, that guy comes through within

466
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: a second of the snap being done, so at least

467
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 4: you'll take care of him and then Burrow can try

468
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 4: to figure it out after that. But a really good

469
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 4: pass blocking running back is almost more valuable to Cincinnati

470
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 4: than any other team, you can argue, which you know,

471
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: Todds Brooks, you found yourself a good situation between that

472
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 4: and then the short yardage stuff, that meat and potato

473
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 4: stuff between the tackles, etc. That's where I think he

474
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: takes that work from Chase Brown year one. And it's

475
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 4: a thing too where it improves Chase Brown's bill. You

476
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 4: stay healthy throughout the season, which obviously Cincinnati's progative as well.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love Chase Brown, by the way, and I

478
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: don't understand why he's not being drafted sooner than he is.

479
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: You've got the lead running back, the workhorse back for

480
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: a top five offense and he's going at ADP of

481
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Yeah, I don't know, Andy, and he dude

482
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: can catch too, and there they threw to him more

483
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: and more as the season went on. You could see

484
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: him setting, you know, being much more productive through the

485
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: air this year. I love I love Chase Brown. I

486
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: have so much. I have so so much Chase Brown

487
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: on my various teams right now.

488
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Speaker 4: Yeah, good, good situation obviously for Chase Brown. And I

489
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 4: respect how Chase Brown. You mentioned it improved as a

490
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 4: receiver at Illinois. That was it was a dormant skill

491
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 4: and the few times we seen him doing it there.

492
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 4: I saw Chase Brown fight plenty of balls in the

493
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 4: limited sample and then when he went to the Senior Bowl,

494
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 4: and so I wasn't thinking he was going to get

495
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: there as a pass catcher, and that he has started

496
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 4: to show those signs. And if you become a reliable receiver,

497
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 4: of course, then it goes. You were already talking about

498
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 4: a ferrari athlete. So it's just more opportunities to get

499
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 4: Chase Brown in space and then allow him to potentially

500
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 4: hit an explosive play.

501
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, kudos to Chase Brown. All Right.

502
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Chicago running back Kyle Mnungui. He is ADP

503
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: two twenty seven, that is round nineteen. He and we

504
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: we've referenced the Rutgers football program already because we were

505
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: talking about Isaiah Pacheco. Here's the guy who finished better

506
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: than Pacheco, in fact, second only to Ray Rice in

507
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: Rutger's career rushing production. For him, the issue is always

508
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: the speed. He's a four to six runner, and there's

509
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: some point at which you just there's some point at

510
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: which you're too slow for the NFL. And I don't

511
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: know if it's for six or not, but I think

512
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: we're right. We're getting near that point where it's awfully

513
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: hard to find other case studies of six runners who've

514
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: had productive careers.

515
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Kyle Manonguy. The thing you like about

516
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: him is he's a fighter, you know. I mentioned all

517
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 4: the stack boxes that he faced at Rutgers, and then

518
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 4: of course he was he's he's one of the better

519
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: pass blockers in this class as well, Kyle Manong Guy.

520
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 3: But the athleticism was the question.

521
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: I had one of the strangest experiences with Kyle Manong

522
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 4: Guy at his podium session at the combine of almost

523
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: any prospect with the question I asked, because what I asked,

524
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 4: and and let me give some context here. I love

525
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: Kyle Manong Guy's game at Rutgers. I like the grinder guys.

526
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 4: I like the guy where it's like every time you

527
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: get the box going to be a street fight. I

528
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: like that stuff. And he has solid instincts, he has

529
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 4: solid vision. And again he's just a fighter. We'll seek out.

530
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: You know, he's a physical guy and everything like that

531
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 4: despite the frame, you know, two hundred and eleven pounds.

532
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: The question with Kyle Manonguy was always the athleticism. This

533
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: wasn't heading into the pre draft process. This was his

534
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 4: entire call career. Again, the things that you liked were

535
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: the things he could work on or the things with

536
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: his heart. But his athletic profile, it never acquitted itself. Well,

537
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 4: he's just not a great athlete. And so I asked

538
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 4: him at his combine session, you know, like you you

539
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 4: had a solid career at Rutgers, and you showed a

540
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: lot in some tough situations and stuff, and now now

541
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 4: you come here and you have questions about the athletic profile,

542
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: like are you looking forward to getting out on the track,

543
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: and you know, trying to answer those he had one

544
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 4: of the stranger again, one of the strangers responds to

545
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 4: a question at least I've ever asked there. He looked

546
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: me dead in the eyes and he goes, what athletic questions, okay,

547
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, you know the yeah. I

548
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: was like, you know the question with your athletic pro

549
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: what questions?

550
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that.

551
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: And it's like, bro, all right, well, either you totally

552
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: lack self awareness or you're lying to me anyway. Either way,

553
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: this is a weird moment. And twenty four hours from now,

554
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: you're not going to be testing very well. And he's

555
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: didn't test very well. He was a fortieth percentile overall

556
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 4: Size of Justice athlete at five eight two eleven. You

557
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 4: mentioned in the four to six he had a forty

558
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 4: fourth percentile shut all, the twenty seven percentile twenty yards split,

559
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 4: sixteen percentile ten yard split. We were not wrong about

560
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: Kyle Manongai's athletic profile. But again, the toughness and his

561
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: his ethos is die on the sword of ethos on

562
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 4: the field. It speaks for itself. So can he carve

563
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 4: oute a role right away? I think there's a shot.

564
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 4: Rochan Johnson has not shown us what we want to see.

565
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: Roshan Johnson, you know, he needs to speaking of a

566
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: guy that needs to make a case to remain on

567
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: the roster.

568
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: And then DeAndre Swift eh.

569
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, already benched once by Ben Johnson two years ago

570
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: when he was two years younger, right, and presumably better

571
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: than he is now. So we already know that DeAndre

572
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: Swift once before was not adequate to a Ben Johnson offense.

573
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's why some people are just int

574
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: Rohan Johnson. A couple of weeks ago, kent on the

575
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: show and he made a case for Roshan Johnson as

576
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: a sleeper and potentially as this year's Jamal Williams. You'll

577
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: remember two years ago, three years ago, he led the

578
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: NFL with seventeen rushing touchdowns and maybe Roshan Johnson could

579
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: be that back. But if neither of those guys really

580
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: pan out, if they look like they have the past

581
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: few years, that would open the door for Kyle Manungay.

582
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

583
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 4: My thing with Rochean Johns, I just don't know what,

584
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: you know, what a dormant part of his skill set

585
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: is going to merge this year. I think we more

586
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 4: or less have seen Roshan Johnson, and then you know,

587
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: we more or less know what DeAndre Swift is, and

588
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: you mentioned the issues that he had prior in Ben

589
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: Johnson's system. I really thought that Chicago was going to

590
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: get aggressive to draft the running back. Now they got

591
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: hopped in line by the Raiders for Genti. They obviously

592
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 4: thought that it was that was way too early for Hampton,

593
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: you know, and so they ended up waiting all the

594
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 4: way to round seven. I probably, you know, with Manonga,

595
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: I probably would have hopped in line and gone a

596
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: little bit earlier if I was them. But maybe they'll

597
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: be shopping for one next up. Probably will be shopping

598
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: for a next offseason. But you you have you know,

599
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson taken over. We're excited provisionally about the quarterback.

600
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: We're certainly excited about the pass catching unit, and mentioned

601
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: that the offensive line got a lot better this offseason

602
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: because they made real, real strides to fix that problematic

603
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 4: interior offensive line. But if you go into camp and

604
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: it's this, you know, Ben Johnson's like, wait, the guy

605
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: that I benched two years ago and now he's lost

606
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: this step, that's gonna be my belcown. No, and then

607
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: he doesn't like grow sean the scenario where I could

608
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: see Manong guy and then people are like, oh, Kyle

609
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: Mano guy, like he's the top fab guy this week,

610
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: and we have to it's the thing where you're just

611
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: taking some cost certainty because Ben Johnson might get you know,

612
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: it's the He's the watchmaker, the clockmaker type guy. Ben

613
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: Johnson wants you to follow his system and stuff. And

614
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: manong Guy I think fits that of a guy. He's,

615
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: you know, like Leeroy Horde. If you need a yard

616
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: to get you three yards, if you need five yards

617
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: to get you three yards, right, that sort of kayle Manongay.

618
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: In addition to I will pass.

619
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: Block for you, I will be the bodyguard for Caleb Williams,

620
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: a guy charges you know, loves to extend the play

621
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: and wait beyond the point where he should and so

622
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: it's advantage just to have a good pass blocker next

623
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: to him. Kyle Mananga might be the best pass it

624
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 4: probably is the best pass blocker on that roster at

625
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: the running back position. So I think there's a shot

626
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: for him to steal a role in your one for sure.

627
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: ADP two twenty seven, round number nineteen. Now we go

628
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: to another player who's right down the cusp of being

629
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: too slow in the NFL. But I like this kid

630
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: more than I like Manungui. And it's Devin Neil. Now

631
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: with the Saints. He was the he was basically mister

632
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: do everything for Kansas, drafted in the sixth round. Slow,

633
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: but he's also very patient runner, which is not the

634
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: worst combination of the world and super slippery, really good footwork,

635
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: really good vision. He doesn't have really I think, the

636
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: size to break a lot of really squared up good tackles,

637
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: but enough of lose simpness that a lot of the

638
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: times tacklers can't take good angles at Devin Neil and

639
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: and stylistically among the Saints runners, I feel like he's

640
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: the closest to Alvin Kamara minus the speed because the

641
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: speed's totally different there. But he can catch like camera

642
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: can catch, you know, Kevin Kamara turns so many of

643
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: the of so many short passes into long gains. I

644
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: feel like, compared to everybody else on the Saints roster,

645
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: Devin Neil, if anything happened to Alvin Kamara, and we

646
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Speaker 1: don't want anything to Devin Neil could be the guy

647
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: who walks into that that backup job.

648
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of scenarios where Devin Neil has a

649
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: big role this fall that you like. If certainly, if

650
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: if Kamara got hurt again, the other one, of course,

651
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: is prior to the trade deadline of potential trade there

652
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: uh sending out Alvin Kamara. The Saints heading into this

653
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: season are tanking about as egregiously as you will ever

654
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 4: see an NFL franchise thing. They aren't even being subtle

655
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: about it. They they are in utter an abject cap

656
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 4: helly that it's going to be difficult for them to

657
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 4: dig out from under for the next couple of years.

658
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: And the one way that they could improve their roster

659
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: was by winning the first overall pick. They are going

660
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 4: to make a strong run for it. They have set

661
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 4: their roster up to be the worst in the NFL,

662
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: and that is what they are competing for, is the

663
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: first pick. And then after that, I think they're going

664
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Speaker 4: to beg arch manning arch please please, please please your

665
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: father and the and the whole thing, and we'll do

666
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: the Saints thing and YadA YadA, and you know from Louisiana,

667
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: et cetera.

668
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: But how does this, you know, affect Devin Neill?

669
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 4: Look Elvin again, If you try to run Elvin Kamara

670
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: into the ground early on, you increase the odds of

671
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: his injury. And then if he makes it toward near

672
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: the trade deadline healthy the Saints are, you know, they're

673
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 4: one and five or whatever, ohen six, Elvin Kamara might

674
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 4: be politely asking the front office to trade him even

675
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: though they haven't. I haven't already, right, and then at

676
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: that point it's gonna be Devin Neil. Kendrey Miller, is

677
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: not it? Kendry Miller if they had more rosterable running

678
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: backs would not be on the roster this fall. I

679
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: don't know if you will anyway, Uh, Clyde Edwards, d Layer,

680
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: these other bombs they have on the Velis Jones, right, they.

681
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: Don't have anything on that team. It's Devin Neil after that.

682
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: So Devin Neil, he is falling way too far in

683
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: dynasty leagues, you know. I mean like going forward, he's

684
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: the most attractive Saints running back when you get past

685
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: the Alvin Kamara era and then this coming season. Uh,

686
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: there are there's pass there, there's pass that are not

687
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: far fetched that Elvin Kamara would become the RB one

688
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: Bill Kow type guy.

689
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's uh, there's I really I hadn't thought about

690
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: the trade Alvin kamaras scenario, but now that you mentioned it,

691
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: that could be a real thing that could be a

692
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: real thing. That's really interesting, really interesting.

693
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, I mean, just toss someone

694
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Speaker 4: out charge. But we just talked about the Kansas City

695
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: Chiefs thing. And if it turns out that indeed Kareem

696
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: Hunt is done and then Pacheco is still you know,

697
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 4: he's not back to one hundred percent, or there's some

698
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: tentativeness there. Maybe Briuschard you just want to keep him

699
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: as the pass on guy. Maybe you don't think he's

700
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 4: far enough along you get into late September, early October.

701
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: You're telling me a team like that wouldn't be incentivized

702
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: to send the cast.

703
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: Isn't good.

704
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: It's not like you're gonna have to give up two

705
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: first round picks, a mid round pick, maybe a round

706
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: three ought to get that done to help a Super

707
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: Bowl contender, you know.

708
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: And that's just one example.

709
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think there's a real shot Kamara gets

710
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: traded in the fall because Saints don't want to win

711
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: games and he's gonna help win games.

712
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: Is are you with me on how I see Devin Neil.

713
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: We didn't love Devan Neil.

714
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Devin Neil, he's just so underrated because of the situation.

715
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 4: He came from, you know, at Kansas, but under the radar,

716
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: and then you mentioned that the lack of home run

717
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: hitting speed. He's a decent athlete, but he's not a

718
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: great athlete. Yeah, but his his game, it's the feet.

719
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 4: His feet are just tremendous. The way he sets things up,

720
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 4: the way that you mentioned that it's difficult to hit

721
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: him square in the open field.

722
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: He will out make people miss.

723
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: Some of these ones they don't even go down as

724
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: a broken tackle because he makes a defender miss so

725
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: bad he doesn't even get touched. But yeah, it's a

726
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 4: guy with really good feet that that both is a

727
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 4: good between the tackles runner. He also is a good receiver,

728
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: and I think the receiving element of his game You're

729
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: gonna see it more in the NFL than you did

730
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: at Kansas, just because the way Kansas used him it

731
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: was dumping off behind the line of scrimmage. Is because

732
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 4: their offensive system. But Devin Neil has shown he has

733
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 4: the agility, he has the feat and then at the

734
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: senior ball he was licking people in those one on

735
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: one drills that I was talking about before.

736
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: It's funny while we're talking, I've got I've got twitter

737
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: x just sort of on in the background Dwayne McFarlane

738
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: while we're talking about these deep deep running back sleepers,

739
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: he just tweeted, Dylan Samson is now my most drafted

740
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: running back should be going earlier. Interesting and not just rookies.

741
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: This is his most drafted running back. So to go

742
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: back to the first running back we talked about Dylan Samson. Uh,

743
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: you know our coworkert fantasy life Dwayne McFarland, who I

744
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: respect A Todd loves Dylan Samson.

745
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

746
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: It's one of the things where opportunity meets you know. However,

747
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: you say that for Dylan Samson and with Junkins, you

748
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: know his issues. Now the opportunity even is a little

749
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: bit brighter. And you know, we went through Dylan Samson's

750
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: profile and the reasons why he fell down a little

751
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: bit like you already have a high floor embedded because

752
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: of the value you can give on passing downs. And

753
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 4: then we just have to see about the way his running,

754
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: his the rushing element of his game, how that translates

755
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: to the NFL. I mentioned it's sort of an unorthodox

756
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: profile is the one year coming out of the Tennessee system.

757
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: But there's a shot that it translates, and if it does,

758
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 4: you know, and there's any issue with Judkins or you

759
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 4: know whatever.

760
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he could hit the brown run in Dylan Samson.

761
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Uh, let me hit you with this. Since our last show,

762
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: Mike Williams is retired, which doesn't change anything for me

763
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: because I never thought he was going to be a

764
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: meaningful participate in this coming season anyway. But it's put

765
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: a spotlight on Trey Harris, the receiver that the Chargers took.

766
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: I didn't Again, I didn't think Williams was really going

767
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: to stand in his way at all, if you know,

768
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: or not for long anyway. But do you because we're

769
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: there's some additional focus on Trey Harris right now as

770
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: a potential deep downfield target for a strong armed quarterback

771
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: who doesn't have one. Otherwise, what's your level of optimism

772
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: on Trey Harris just if you don't mind, just sort

773
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: of an off the cuff change of topic.

774
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: The slander on Quinton Johnston there.

775
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: Yes, right, there was some embedded slander, wasn't there. But

776
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: he's not He is not a downfield target at all.

777
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: Well, he has the athletic profile for but yeah, the

778
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 4: the butterfinger hands there and hopefully that's what Trey Harris

779
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: provides the team. Trey Harris does not have the athletic

780
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 4: ability of Quinton Johnston, but he has better hands and

781
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: and Trey Harris shure that he could win downfield in college,

782
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: but that's you know, it was downfield and then it

783
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: was a lot of the short stuff and then he

784
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: did some stuff Trey Harris on the slants and stuff

785
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 4: where you could just get him going south across the field. Well,

786
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 4: you don't want to this stuff that Trey Harris lacks.

787
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: Is this stuff that Lad mcconki's awesome at Trey Harris.

788
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 4: You don't want him switching directions in the middle of

789
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: his route because then it takes him a while to

790
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 4: work back up to speed. But as far as his

791
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: situational guy, you know, next to a guy in Lab

792
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 4: McConkie that can do a lot more stuff. I think

793
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: there's absolutely a shot that he sets Quinton Johnson on

794
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 4: the bench there and jumps past him in year one.

795
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: Now it's a passing offense. It doesn't throw the ball

796
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: as much obviously, the Jim Harbot thing, but yeah, you

797
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: do get the downfield shots there and Quinton Johnston did

798
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: not run away, of course with that job last year.

799
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: And now Mike Williams out the door. So Trey Harris, caon,

800
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: have ever shot?

801
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: Gimme what's Trey? What's the week Trey Harris starts? First week?

802
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: The first week? Trey Harris is a starter in the

803
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: Chargers offense.

804
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 4: Well, for me designating him as a starter, I would

805
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: have to put him above Quinton Johnson on the depth

806
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: chart because Charters they run twelve thirteen personnel more than

807
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 4: any team in the NFL. So you know, people got

808
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: to keep that in mind. McConkie the one boundary guy,

809
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: and they will kick McConkey inside. Of course when they

810
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: go three receivers, sure, but you know you have to

811
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: have two boundary receivers that you're comfortable with her. You're

812
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: gonna Jim Harbaugh's inclinations to have the more tight ends

813
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: on the field. You're gonna lean even more into that.

814
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 3: But with what.

815
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: Week would I expect Trey Harris to be above Quinton Johnson?

816
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 4: I'll say five, you know, yeah, out of out of camp.

817
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can do it out of

818
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: camp because Johnson last year, you know, I mean, he

819
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: was on the field, the coaching staff knows him, he

820
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: has utility.

821
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 3: It's a guy that pushes his safety back.

822
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: And then Trey Harris that his utility, you know, and

823
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: Johnson's is too.

824
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: So I'm you know, I'm not you know, saying that

825
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: it's not. But the the.

826
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: Limited route tree with Trey Harris, that's it's not just

827
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: an old miss thing. It's again difficulty switching directions really quickly,

828
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 4: fluidly without losing you know, high and speed. So you

829
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 4: want to just keep Trey Harris on the North South Pass.

830
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: That's where he excels.

831
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I.

832
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: Would expect him to push Johnson out of that that

833
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 4: role week four or five.

834
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: So maybe we're talking like October.

835
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: This feels like one of those times when I want

836
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: it to happen immediately, but the veteran's going to hang

837
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: on and just you know, keep this thing muddy for

838
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: longer than I want.

839
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a Jim Harbod thing too. You know,

840
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 4: He's gonna have deference to the veteran until it's he

841
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 4: can't anymore basically, and I do think Trey Harris will

842
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 4: will push that issue. But keep in mind Trey Harris

843
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: coming from more or less a cotton candy offensive system

844
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 4: run by Lane Kiffin, and now you're going from that

845
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: a cotton candy collegiate system to true blue pro style

846
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: system in Jim Harbought. So you know, there's aspects of

847
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 4: Trey Harris's game that need to be developed. He needs

848
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 4: to learn to play in a true pro style system.

849
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 4: But again, you put him just compared the profiles of

850
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: him and Quinton Johnson, you can start to make an

851
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 4: argument for Trey Harris really quickly.

852
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: What I like about Trey Harris. The other thing I

853
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: like and gives me optimism that he can start sooner,

854
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: is he was productive four different years in college, and

855
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: I you know, I like that he's nat this is

856
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: somebody where we're trying to project one good season and

857
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: hope that he can start week one. You know, he's

858
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: got you know, he had the productivity with at least

859
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: fifty four catches in three straight years and over nine

860
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving in all three of them. So he

861
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Speaker 1: was you know, he was somebody that was productive in college.

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Speaker 1: And I want to believe Trey Harris is going to

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Speaker 1: be going to be a factor sooner than later, I hope.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and he fits that ilk of player that's

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00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: cool to see in modern college football, where they make

866
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 4: good right away at the G five school that they

867
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: go to. In his case, it was Louisiana Tech, and

868
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Speaker 4: then he jumped up the portal. King Layne Kiffin came

869
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 4: McCallin to rust in Louisiana and Trey Harris he did

870
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: that call and went till Miss and was dominant when

871
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: he was on the field. Trey Harris is per game

872
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: stats at Ole Miss. We're utterly stupid, you know, Lane Kiffen.

873
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 4: He does a really good job of getting his top

874
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: receiving options looks. And then of course they had the

875
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: first round quarterback that could get it there.

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Speaker 3: But you need that.

877
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: You need your wide receiver one to be super duper reliable.

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00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: And even though Trey Harris doesn't run a full routtree

879
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: on those routes that I was discussing before, goal balls

880
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 4: stuff across the middle where you just keep them going

881
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 4: north south, and then the other thing he is really

882
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: really good at and Jim Harbaugh will appreciate this. It's

883
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: more of a paper cut thing, but it is something

884
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: when defenses do their drop zone stuff or you see

885
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: the cornerback's bailing back or they're playing off. You know,

886
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 4: it's a predominant zone system. Trey Harris is really really

887
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: good at denoting it right away and then doing the

888
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: hitch thing, turning round four or five yards upfield, you know,

889
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 4: making himself big. So it's going to be you know,

890
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: even if the cornerback could get down in time that

891
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: it's going to be hard to get around his frame.

892
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: You don't drop the ball. So I mean Trey Harris,

893
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 4: you look at him right away. The quarterback justin Herbert

894
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: this year, you see them starting to bail on their

895
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 4: zone right off the snap tree. Here is the guy

896
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: that knows what to do. And you can get receptions

897
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: that way and and and again paper cut and and

898
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: sort of prove your worth that away.

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Speaker 3: But there are utilities to that game.

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00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: Out of all the players we talked about, Dylan Samson

901
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, Jarquees Hunter in Los Angeles, for Shard Smith

902
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, Toads Brooks in Cincinnati, Kyle Munungui Manungae

903
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: Guy Mnunguy manungu I in Chicago, and Devin Neil pick one,

904
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: just giving if you had to, if you had to,

905
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: if you had to, bank on one of them for

906
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 1: let's just say this year only since you know, because

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00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: dynasty will be a different topic for this year.

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00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: Who do you want? Oh?

909
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: I like it the deep sigh from thor.

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00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

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00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 4: This is tough because of course, the circumstances a couple

912
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 4: of these guys, if circumstances changed a little.

913
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Speaker 3: Bit, they're going to be off and running. Uh uh.

914
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Speaker 4: I would probably be between Samson and Brochard just because you know,

915
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: combining all those different things. Brichard would be the true

916
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: you're swinging for the fence cause he get that role

917
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: and you're in the awesome offense, whereas Samson doesn't have

918
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: as much you know, in front of him.

919
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: But there you know.

920
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: Uh, you know what, whatever, I'm gonna swing for the fence,

921
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Brichard Smith.

922
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, noted, we'll mark the tape. We'll come

923
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Speaker 1: back to it at at some point later in the year.

924
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: Maybe it's gonna be after week one. Maybe this is

925
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: gonna be another pukin Nakua for you, and we'll be

926
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: talking about how you were urging everybody to get Berchard

927
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: Smith back in way back in July, and even before that.

928
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Speaker 1: We'll find out, but we'll you know, we'll mark the tape.

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Speaker 1: I'll remember it. Thanks so much for the deep dive.

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Speaker 3: Thor appreciate it. Good to be back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'll be back on a future show. I know,

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Speaker 1: later than I think, the fifteenth I think. So we

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Speaker 1: will talk to you. We'll talk to you more soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks my Matt. Looking forward to it, and thanks to

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Speaker 1: you for listening, everybody. We'll be back next week for

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