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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noah.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pl Fagot. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: argue you are here. That makes this the stuff they

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Speaker 3: don't want you to know. If you are tuning in

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Speaker 3: to our strange news program the evening, it publishes welcome

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Speaker 3: to March ninth. It's Monday. It's not quite the IDEs

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Speaker 3: of March, but it is a time to celebrate because

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Speaker 3: we're here. You are here.

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Speaker 4: How you guys don't equally portentous portentos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, since the last time recorded we recorded strange news

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Speaker 2: that you heard last week, I guess, uh, you know

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Speaker 2: there's basically World War three happening. Yay.

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Speaker 4: Well, when you put it like that, Matt, I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's not wrong. You're not wrong. It's hot.

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Speaker 2: You don't think it's ya. I think it's it's I

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Speaker 2: think it's it's it's nay.

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Speaker 4: Also, just world you know, World War three, it ain't

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Speaker 4: quite yet, but it's well, it's got the flavor.

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Speaker 3: Did World War Two ever end? Right? Or we seeing

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Speaker 3: the tail end of it? We also we also know Look,

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Speaker 3: this is to your point, Matt, this is yay for

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Speaker 3: some people, This is yay for some investors. Uh, there

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Speaker 3: is a great chess game afoot, right. We are seeing

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Speaker 3: we are seeing capabilities and conspiracies that were suspected, indeed

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Speaker 3: predicted by us a while back. But we are also

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Speaker 3: seeing again a lot of unclean activity. And we always

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Speaker 3: have to ask ourselves, especially being a show based in

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Speaker 3: the United States, we always have to ask ourselves, are

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Speaker 3: we truly witnessing more violence? Or are we instead being

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Speaker 3: allowed to see more of the constant violence that has existed,

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Speaker 3: you know, since the age of official colonialism.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's that one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We sure don't talk about Syria much anymore, and lots

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Speaker 2: of operations going on there.

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Speaker 3: Benin Burkina Fassau, you know, check in. We got a

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Speaker 3: great message about Ecuador.

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Speaker 4: And to that point, Ben, the question then becomes, what

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Speaker 4: does opening it up to the public in that way

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Speaker 4: a pomplish? And I think a lot of our folks

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Speaker 4: out there in critical thinking conspiracy Land and the three

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Speaker 4: of us might argue that it's a bit of a distraction.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think there's validity to that, NOL. There is

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Speaker 3: so much happening now. We want to feel positive at

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Speaker 3: the beginning and the end of our weekly strange news segment.

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Speaker 3: So before we get to some very dark, disturbing stories,

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Speaker 3: we thought we would play you a little song as

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Speaker 3: we go into the break. Guys, can is it okay

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Speaker 3: if I play you a little song, A little didty,

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Speaker 3: a little ditty, a jingle?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Please?

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Speaker 2: About fifteen seconds, Max, I liked the tesla that the

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Speaker 2: I guess at some point the singer maybe does he

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Speaker 2: say tesla?

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Speaker 4: I just I just heard heard the audio.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is a song called El Muchaco or the

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Speaker 3: Cheerful Happy Boy. Uh yeah, I got that part.

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Speaker 4: I got the vibe. Definitely was cheerful and happy.

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Speaker 3: Right. Uh bringing some boats, but they're well frozen. I

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Speaker 3: want them to open. Well, let's go. I'm the joyful

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Speaker 3: boy that stays up drinking with his bottle of wine

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Speaker 3: funeral of an infamous cartel leader named Nemesso Osagera Cervantes. Uh.

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Speaker 3: He finally got Uh, he finally got put down by

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Speaker 3: That's the song they played at his funeral, and without

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Speaker 2: Sounds correct to me. You're the leader of wasn't a

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Speaker 2: Yeah man, yeah, we saw the wave of violence in

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you're right, And just like some of my

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Speaker 3: Right when the head of a cartel is decapitated, there

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Speaker 2: For sure. Did Israel also bomb the meeting where they

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Speaker 3: No, they did not, quote flatten the building where everybody

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Speaker 3: met to determine a new aya Toola. But we should

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Speaker 3: excellent segue. So we're going to keep bopping on this

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Speaker 3: tell you why we're playing the song, right. So I

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Speaker 3: wish we were not as prescient in our recent episode

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Speaker 3: how Israel killed the supreme leader of Iran, Ayatola Ali Kahmani.

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Speaker 3: It turns out like, guys, remember when we remember the

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Speaker 4: Yes, the exploding exploding pagers Wakie talkies was another one, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nailed it. So the intel agencies

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Speaker 3: believe through through pagers and to your point, Noel two

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We've seen the systems in our office in Atlanta

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Speaker 4: I mean clearly it was able to scan your you know,

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Speaker 3: Facial recognition, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Here's what they did, and here's why it is a

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Speaker 3: clever conspiracy. So we see the the operatives were surveilling,

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Speaker 3: For quite some time, they were instead surveilling the drivers.

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Speaker 3: So this data was compiled in real time, and it

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Speaker 3: being so sneaky the Shadows of Palentier. Right, did Israel

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Speaker 4: Yes? Likely, yeahss referencing all that data, collating all that

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. We talked about the leaks out of Sweden

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Speaker 2: Pretty creepy stuff.

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Speaker 3: Pretty creepy stuff. We also have to ask what happens next?

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Speaker 3: You know, we we know that the plan to kill

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Speaker 3: We know that this situation seems set to escalate, and

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Speaker 3: the endgame is like, what does the chessboard look like,

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Speaker 4: and sarcastic. This is bad. I'm just gonna lead. I

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Speaker 4: This is called House Substitute for Senate Bill two forty four,

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Speaker 4: Well, it's certainly part of the rhetoric of this administration,

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Speaker 2: or to sue somebody. Right, and then imagine like attorneys

435
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: that might pop up in Kansas who specialize in this

436
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: kind of thing. I mean, you can again, I'm I'm

437
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: using kind of slippery slope argument there, but it is.

438
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's also also it's disturbing that the idea of

439
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: the bathroom suit fine is only one thousand dollars because

440
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: that normalizes it as an infraction, you know, that puts

441
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: it on the level of a traffic offense. The fact

442
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: that the the fact that the money in play is

443
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: not a higher amount means means that this is culture

444
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: war in my opinion.

445
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: No question about that. Ben. It's all culture war and

446
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 4: it you know, we know that these types of procedures

447
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: and therapies gender affirming care, they're expensive and oftentimes they're

448
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: not covered by insurance. I think most of the time

449
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: are not covered by insurance. And I'm sorry if I'm

450
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 4: speaking out of pocket there, but that's been my experience.

451
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: And if it is covered by insurance, it might be

452
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: the kind of thing that people would feel hesitant to

453
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: get covered by insurance for the very reasons that we're

454
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: talking about, because then there's a record of it. Then

455
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: the kind of thing that could be recorded and open

456
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: you up to further scrutiny, you know, being part of

457
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: a group that's already marginalized and being attacked. I just

458
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: want to read again from this piece from the Conversation.

459
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 4: The headline for this section of the article is what

460
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: we've already said, idea is essential to participate in society.

461
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: In validating someone's identification document has a media and powerful

462
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: consequences they cascade into all aspects of their life. I

463
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: was speaking to my therapist this morning and I mentioned

464
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: this to her, and she said, a patient of hers

465
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: who is seeking a particular type of procedure that in

466
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: our neck of the Global Woods can only be found

467
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: at a particular clinic in Nashville. They are discontinuing this

468
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: procedure at the end of the year because it's just

469
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: too messy and even like providers are being got, you know,

470
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: targeted for this kind of stuff, and they just don't

471
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: it's just too much to deal with. So they don't

472
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: want to open themselves up to lawsuits. So this particular

473
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: type of procedure, I can't recall what exactly it was,

474
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: but it was gender affirming care is no longer going

475
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: to be available. For example, back to the piece, without

476
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: a valid driver's license, many trans and non binary people

477
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: will be unable to get work, attend classes, pick up

478
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: their children, visit the doctor, see friends, or go to

479
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: the grocery store. Trans and not go in the grocery store,

480
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: I'm sure referring to the ability to drive. You know,

481
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: you don't have to have ID for everything at the

482
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: grocery store. But it absolutely hamstrings you as a as

483
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: a human person to not have access to that, to

484
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 4: have an invalid driver's license or identification card. Trans and

485
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: non binary people who need to drive with an invalid

486
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: license risk fines in jail times where they would be

487
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: housed according to their sex assigned at birth, which y'all

488
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: could open them up to horrific sexual violence. Yeah, and

489
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: again we keep hearing this term thrown around. Cruelty is

490
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: the point.

491
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Speaker 2: That's what it seems like. I mean, that's sure what

492
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: it's you're only hurting people, right, But the rhetoric war,

493
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: we know there's rhetoric coming from the side of people

494
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: who want this to happen that says, you know your

495
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: children are in danger when they go into a bathroom

496
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: now because there could be some you know, we've heard

497
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: the scare tactic rhetoric, right, We've seen that thrown around

498
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: own on the news by lawmakers, you know, on a

499
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: state by state basis, as well as people who are

500
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, representing the entirety of the US and the

501
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: federal government. We know that there's a there's some belief

502
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: of that kind of thing out there, and theoretically that's

503
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: what this law is for, to protect those protect those kids,

504
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: and you and and and all this stuff.

505
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: Well guys too, I mean, it feels like the attack

506
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 4: on the trans community is now a stand in or

507
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: a replacement for what once was a attack on the

508
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: on the gay community because it's no longer in vogue

509
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: or or you know, like you just can't really go

510
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 4: after the gay community anymore.

511
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: Or attack on women's rights.

512
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: Or attack on women's thank you, and what I'm saying.

513
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that there aren't homophobes out there, but

514
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying, based on the laws and just the tide

515
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: of history, it is a lot less popular and a

516
00:34:53,520 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: lot less politically, let's just say, viable to go out

517
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: just straight up go after same sex relationships in that way.

518
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: So now it's about the trans people. They used to

519
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 4: say gay people were indoctrinating our kids. Right now they're

520
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: saying trans people, the trans you know, thought virus or

521
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 4: whatever is affecting the youth. And that's what they used

522
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: to say about gay people.

523
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: And then before even further back, we used to see

524
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: the argument that women having the right to vote was

525
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 3: or the right to have credit cards of all things,

526
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: was another mind virus, right, it was some kind of

527
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: derangement syndrome. Weird fact too, folks in the United States,

528
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: women were not allowed to have credit cards until like

529
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies. So there's always going to be a boogeyman.

530
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: There's always going to be something to other because fascism

531
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: demands it. And if you are stuff on the soapbox

532
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: here real quick, if you are, if you are a

533
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: person who says, well, why does this affect me? I've

534
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: never been to Kansas, so I'm not planning to go

535
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: to Kansas, right, I don't know anyone who would be

536
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: affected by this. Remember that the other, to Knowle's point

537
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 3: is always going to evolve, and one day, for one

538
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: reason or another, you could be the other. We're in

539
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: this together, I think.

540
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: No question about it. And it could well be that

541
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: we're heading towards a place where being the other might

542
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: just be holding an opinion that's different than the prevailing

543
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 4: government party line.

544
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: It's just so bonkers that it's so bonkers just operationally logistically,

545
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: that you have legal paperwork that is invalidated instantly with

546
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: no recourse. Is there some kind of path toward documentary?

547
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 4: Well, that's a question that I have as well been

548
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 4: and I will say there are plenty of folks who

549
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: choose non binary and who perhaps have these legal documents

550
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: that have chosen you know, maybe they were you know,

551
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: born within as science gender, and perhaps they haven't undergone

552
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 4: any kind of treatment or a surgery of any kind,

553
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: but they choose to identify as non binary, and that

554
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: is something that is important to them on a personal level,

555
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: on a community level, or the way they see themselves.

556
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: And that again to my earlier point with my kid,

557
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 4: it was a legal option. There's a bubble right there

558
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: on the legal documentation presented to us as a family

559
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: to get a passport for my minor child. It was

560
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: important to them to choose that and it was given

561
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 4: as an option. Therefore them as a young person, that's

562
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: powerful to be given that option and to be able

563
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 4: to have that level of agency and to be able

564
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: to say this is how I see myself. But there

565
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: are young folks, you know who you are, perhaps of age,

566
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: just of age eighteen plus. I know there's a lot

567
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: of messy rhetoric around gender affirming care for underage folks,

568
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: and that's its own thing, But God forbid, what are

569
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: they gonna start doing They're gonna look at genitals. Are

570
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: they going to start asking to see documentation as to

571
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: whether you've had procedures? If you have, is that going

572
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: to then be illegal retroactively? And is there a path

573
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: to quote unquote having your assigned gender? I'm sorry, I

574
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: don't mean to get soapboxing here either. This just really

575
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: affects all of us, and it affects me personally, and

576
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 4: so I just get very upsetting. So forgive me if

577
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: i'm if, I'm if I'm said in you know, any

578
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: kind of way. But I just don't know to your point, Ben,

579
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: I think the recourse if you don't have gender affirming care,

580
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: haven't had procedures, perhaps aren't on medication whatever it might be,

581
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: hormones and the like, which God knows, there's going to

582
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 4: come a point where maybe that stuff isn't even available anymore,

583
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 4: that stuff's made illegal. How do you walk that back?

584
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: I think, my kid, we could just go in and

585
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: and file new paperwork and check a different box. They

586
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: wouldn't be happy about it, reasonably, So yeah, but at

587
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: least there is a path to them perhaps not having

588
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 4: a target on their back.

589
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: Hmm. It makes me wonder uh, And I don't want to.

590
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to pull it away to be cold,

591
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: but pull it away from the personal for a moment

592
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: because I'm wondering if there is a we briefly mentioned

593
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: kind of the top of this discussion about the voter

594
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: ID law play. It makes me wonder if this kind

595
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: of thing is a calculation that there would be enough

596
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: people who would find themselves affected by this law that

597
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: would rather than go and get a new ID, they

598
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: would protest this or or in some way try and

599
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: fight this so that they can get an ID that

600
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: represents them. That is, you know, as you're saying that

601
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: they sign up for by the letter of the law

602
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: when they got their ID, if there are enough people

603
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: who would fight it and not get a new ID

604
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: so they would not be able to vote, because we

605
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: know how many of those people are going to vote, right,

606
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: and it's not going to be for probably folks who

607
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: support the current administration.

608
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 4: That's right. It certainly does feel like there's a chess

609
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 4: move aspect to that. I don't know that this will

610
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: all come down wide in in a meaningful way that

611
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: could affect, say, the midterms, but who knows.

612
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: Well, I guess what I mean, is even because it's

613
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: a state by state thing with the midterms, right, so

614
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: you only need this to happen in key states if

615
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: you're thinking in that mindset of you know, political some

616
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: super political action committee that is, you know, hell bent

617
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: on keeping some people elected and making sure others don't

618
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: get elected. I don't know if that's too cold, or

619
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: if that's just insane or outrageous to even imagine that

620
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: someone would do this and be this callous just to

621
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: secure a couple of representatives.

622
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 4: I don't think that's beyond the realm of possibility, and

623
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Speaker 4: and I honestly don't think I think in a lot

624
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: of ways, disempowering folks like this is a political move

625
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: just in general.

626
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 3: It's happening in concert with other forms of big government crackdowns, right,

627
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: especially on minority populations of any imaginable stripe. Again, we

628
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: cannot overemphasize the other can one day become you, and

629
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: you can become the others sooner than you think, especially

630
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: in especially in an environment that worships what we call accelerationism.

631
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: If we all remember that term, the idea that you've

632
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: got to break the system and make something better somehow,

633
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: shout out to Peter Thiel and Tears. I swear, guys,

634
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: I got radicalized again by our palaeer investigations. I would

635
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 3: not be surprised if Kansas has some UH contracts out

636
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: or at least some requests forbidding with Palaeer.

637
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: I yeah, I know. It's all wrapped up, man. It's

638
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 4: all part of the same ball of badgers. This one's

639
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: a ball, not a bag. It's like like like this,

640
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: what is it the rat king, you know, all intertwined

641
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: and there's rolling like that would be critters, remember Critters

642
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: where there was like the I think critters too. There's

643
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: a giant ball of these monstrosities that are just rolling

644
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 4: around eat chewing up everything that they hit. I'm gonna end.

645
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 4: This has long gone on. I think enough, and I

646
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: think we're all on the same page here. And I

647
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: really appreciate you guys for having I don't know, man,

648
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: it's be on the right side of history.

649
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: We appreciate well.

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Speaker 4: I just to the point of what I was saying

651
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Speaker 4: earlier too, about it being like a choice, and like

652
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Speaker 4: it being a meaningful choice of which box you tick,

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Speaker 4: whether or not you've had a gender affirming search treatments.

654
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Speaker 4: It matters. Okay, this is a health effects of incorrect ID.

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Speaker 4: This is from the Conversation piece. Not having identification documents

656
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Speaker 4: with the correct gender marker also poses a safety and

657
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Speaker 4: health risk. Trans and non binary people who have not

658
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Speaker 4: updated their identification documents are more likely to experience psychological

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Speaker 4: distress and suicidality, in part due to increased day to

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Speaker 4: day stress. For trans and non binary people whose physical

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Speaker 4: appearance no longer aligns with their ID, not having updated

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Speaker 4: documents puts them at increased risk for harassment and violence.

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Speaker 4: Roughly a quarter of trans people and non binary people

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Speaker 4: who have not updated their identification documents experienced subsequent mistreatment

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Speaker 4: when showing their IDs, including verbal harassment, assault, and denial

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Speaker 4: of services or access to settings. In our research to

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Speaker 4: the Conversation, we similarly found that not having one's gender

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Speaker 4: legally affirmed is associated with greater discrimination and social rejection,

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Speaker 4: one pathway to negative effects on mental and physical health.

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Speaker 3: M we'll put the conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had some other more frivolous stories, just trying

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Speaker 4: to lighten the mood a little bit. Mister Beasts editor

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Speaker 4: is in trouble with Calshie or polymarket or one of

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Speaker 4: those for like doing insider trading bets on you know,

675
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Speaker 4: picking winners on the Mister Beast Show, or various YouTube outcomes.

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Speaker 4: I can't. I don't feel like it's even a thing

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Speaker 4: that's worth talking about. After this, I'll save some of

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Speaker 4: these dumb ones for next time. Let's take a break,

679
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 4: we'll come back and we'll hear some more strange news.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned. Gosh, that was a heavy conversation we

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Speaker 2: just had. Guys, what do you say? We jump in

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Speaker 2: with a quick, super important announcement out of the Atlanta area.

683
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: So this is squarely aimed at you Atlantan's. But also

684
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Speaker 2: if you watch basketball or.

685
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Speaker 4: Like magic ba ba ba basketball, I can't not. Yeah,

686
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: that lives red free in my head.

687
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Speaker 3: I don't watch basketball, save my life.

688
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Speaker 4: John Tash is the europe called what is it called ball?

689
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: What's the name of the round ball rock? Roundball rock?

690
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 2: And then he did it at the All Star Game

691
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Speaker 2: with like pyrotechnic violin.

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. I forgot about John Tash and what a

693
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Speaker 4: can contribution to culture. But that freaking snl bit with

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Speaker 4: with our thinking. I think you should leave, buddy. Oh

695
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Speaker 4: my god, it is okay, top ten, Okay, So we're

696
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Speaker 4: in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: We liked sports despite the performance legendarily of the Hawks

698
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Speaker 3: and the Falcons. We love Magic Matt, Where are we going?

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Speaker 2: The Atlanta Hawks today announced a special one night collaboration

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Speaker 2: to celebrate Atlanta's iconic cultural institution, Magic City. It will

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Speaker 2: take place on Monday, March sixteenth, during the team's home

702
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: game against the Magic Orlando Basketballing Team. Organizers of the

703
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: event claim they will bring the best of Magic City

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Speaker 2: for fans and attendance.

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Speaker 4: Did you say lasketballing team? What?

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Speaker 2: Atlanta's O t I will perform at halftime, presented by

707
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: Jack Daniels. Dj Esco will curate pregame music. The Hawk

708
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Speaker 2: Shop will release a limited edition Peachtree themed hoodie spoiler

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Speaker 2: it says Magic City. The night will feature a special

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Speaker 2: introduction to the Hawks af podcast, produced by iHeartMedia Guys,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that and hosted by DC Young Fly.

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00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps most importantly, the Magic City Kitchen will be serving

714
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Speaker 2: lemon pepper and lemon pepper barbecue wings.

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Speaker 3: The Magic Ceti Kitchen is awesome by.

716
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Speaker 4: I've heard, do you? But I've heard They're phenomenal. Sorry, Matt,

717
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Speaker 4: I'm I'm sold.

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Speaker 2: There's still no word on whether or not the primary

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Speaker 2: employees of this iconic cultural institution will be featured at

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Speaker 2: the game. Unfortunately, for now, we're considering this a B

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Speaker 2: y O L D event.

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Speaker 4: Let's bringing your own lap dances.

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Speaker 3: Finally, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: We leave you with this statement from t. I drop

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Speaker 2: the p nod to Q. We're doing this one for

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Speaker 2: the city, Magic City.

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Speaker 4: T I's back, guys, he's charting. He's got a new

728
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Speaker 4: song produced by Pharrell. I want to say I haven't

729
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: heard it yet, but I've seen some uh some some chatter.

730
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Speaker 4: It's apparently doing quite well on it sharts. I gotta

731
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Speaker 4: say to Matt, I think there's a missed opportunity here.

732
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Speaker 4: There should have been an appearance by the Hawk to a.

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Speaker 2: Girl doing magic.

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Speaker 3: Where's magic the gathering? Where are my Wizards of the Coast?

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Speaker 3: Those guys love lap dances.

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Speaker 2: On each one of the uh dancers you pay them.

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Speaker 3: I'm about to tap that, Manu.

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Speaker 2: They're all legendary creatures, special abilities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to thank you for that excellent PSA

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Speaker 3: phenomenal work. Met. We also have to point out I

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Speaker 3: just want to apologize to anybody if we sound uh,

742
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Speaker 3: if we sound too on board with stuff, which you

743
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: have to realize if you don't live in our fair

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Speaker 3: metropolis of Atlanta, Georgia. The gentlemen's clubs, the dance clubs,

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Speaker 3: and so on.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason that announcement calls it an iconic cultural

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Speaker 3: institution because a lot of Atlanta culture happens at strip clubs.

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Speaker 4: That's where the big bangers get tested, like the songs,

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00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of sort of what's the

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Speaker 4: word focus groups, kind of like in the in.

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Speaker 3: The club.

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Speaker 2: Ballers get tested.

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Speaker 4: I went once. I was taken by a colleague, a friend,

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Speaker 4: or someone we worked with, and it was wild. I

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Speaker 4: mean really feels. It feels I've only been the once

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Speaker 4: and it was something. It was something to see y'all.

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Speaker 4: It's expensive, but I was not paying and that was

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Speaker 4: the only reason I went. I went straight from work, though,

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Speaker 4: and I had my work laptop on me in a

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Speaker 4: backpack and they wouldn't let me bring it in. And

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Speaker 4: the guy at the front door, big old dude with

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Speaker 4: a glock on his hip, very nice, offered to hold

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Speaker 4: it for me for some money, and he did, and

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Speaker 4: I was fully expect thinking I might not get it back.

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Speaker 3: But he was good.

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Speaker 4: He was true to his word, and he did return

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Speaker 4: it to me, and and it was it was worth

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Speaker 4: every penny. Class was it that told us that he

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Speaker 4: has Blue Flame money, but t I has Magic City money?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, mister Michael Render did say that, and

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Speaker 3: he was be very sincere. Also, guys, uh, and forget

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Speaker 3: to update. We do have an open invitation to Blue Flame.

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Speaker 3: Mike says we can go to Magic City with him

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Speaker 3: if we pay.

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Speaker 2: A similarly iconic institution.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been to that one as well. Now I

778
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Speaker 3: sound like the strip club guy. Geez, well, sorry, it

779
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Speaker 3: was my dad, my dad.

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Speaker 2: You guys, Oh wow, you know who I don't think

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Speaker 2: has ever been to Magic City? Uncle g ggip, Nope,

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Speaker 2: FBI director Cash Batl's jump.

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Speaker 3: Too, right, I remember this one. Also, I don't think

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Speaker 3: they'll take the geno Magic City for a night out

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Speaker 3: with the boys, big Cat.

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Speaker 2: I just I just don't know they would let him in.

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Speaker 3: Jump.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump to a CNN article posted March third, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, again recording this on March fourth, twenty twenty six. Uh,

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Speaker 2: this is a story. We'll read you the title here.

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Speaker 2: Cash Btel gutted FBI counterintelligence team asked with tracking Iranian

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Speaker 2: threats days before the US strikes Iran. Yay, it's just

793
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Speaker 2: read a little bit from the article here. Just days

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Speaker 2: before the United States launched a major military operation in Iran,

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Speaker 2: FBI Director Cash Betel fired a dozen agents and staff

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Speaker 2: members from a counterintelligence unit tasked with monitoring threats from Iran,

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Speaker 2: which has essentially hamstrung the Washington, DC based FBI counter

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Speaker 2: intelligence unit known as CI DASH twelve, something I've never

799
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: heard of before, guys, and which is very hard to

800
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Speaker 2: search for. You can find some stuff, but it's few

801
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: and far between, which handles cases ranging from mishandling of

802
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: classified documents to tracking foreign spies operating on US soil. Again,

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Speaker 2: let's say that more time tracking foreign spies operating on

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Speaker 2: US soil. Guys. When a country takes part in a

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Speaker 2: large let's say, uh, military action against another country and

806
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Speaker 2: kills their leader and.

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Speaker 4: These are targeted operations, Matt, These are not. This is

808
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Speaker 4: not war, These are targeted operations.

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Speaker 2: This is operation fury. Ethic fury, fury Fury sounds.

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Speaker 4: Like freaking WWE Knight.

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Speaker 2: When a country does something like that. Am I being

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Speaker 2: silly and thinking that there might be some kind of

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Speaker 2: counteractions taken that are on the down low things, let's say,

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Speaker 2: of a potentially terroristic nature. Am I being crazy? No?

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's crazy, you know, man, I think

816
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 4: it's something that we've experienced.

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Speaker 3: If we yeah, if we are being crazy, we're all

818
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Speaker 3: on the same page with us. If we are being crazy,

819
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: then it turns out the analyst left are also being

820
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Speaker 3: crazy because one of the I think I sent it

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Speaker 3: to some of you guys in our group chat earlier,

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Speaker 3: some contacts reached out about the World Cup. The World

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Speaker 3: Cup the immediate concern that there would be domestic terroristic

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Speaker 3: activity proxy level right, so that the government of Iran

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00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: can officially deny it but still be a homegrown attack.

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Speaker 3: Infrastructure is one of the easiest things to hit, as

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Speaker 3: well as large public events like you were saying, no

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Speaker 3: the World Cup, for instance, or the two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fiftieth anniversary of the foundation of the United States, So

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Speaker 3: this is definitely this is also the purge of Iran

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Speaker 3: experts in the FBI is part of a larger pattern

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Speaker 3: of purging expertise as well as in the State.

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Speaker 4: Department, Matt, is this dismantling or this neutering of this

834
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Speaker 4: wing or this branch government even further neutering from when

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Speaker 4: the White House appointed a twenty two year old intern

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Speaker 4: to head up the program?

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Speaker 2: Thomas Fuget, I don't know anything about that.

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Speaker 4: Brother. Thomas Fuget graduated from college last year with a

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Speaker 4: degree in politics. He celebrated in a social media post

840
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: about the exciting opportunities that lay beyond campus life in Texas.

841
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 4: Onward and upward, he wrote, with an emoji of a

842
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: rocket shooting into space. His career BlastOff came quickly a

843
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: year after graduation. The twenty two year old, with no

844
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: apparent national security expertise, is now a Department of Homeland

845
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Speaker 4: Security official overseeing the government's main hub for terrorism prevention,

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Speaker 4: including an eighteen million dollar grant program intended to help

847
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Speaker 4: communities combat violent extremism. He was a former Trump campaign

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Speaker 4: worker who interned at the Heritage Foundation and was appointed

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Speaker 4: to head up the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships

850
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 4: known as CP three is LinkedIn. His LinkedIn profile had

851
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: his previous experience listed as being a like some sort

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Speaker 4: of ag worker and a grocery store clerk.

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Speaker 2: So the thing that is really true the worrying me here, guys,

854
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Speaker 2: and it is a bit more conspiratorial, is the possibility

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Speaker 2: of a false flag event. Ben you kind of pointed

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00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: out there earlier of saying, you know, it could be

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Speaker 2: Iran functioning through somebody, some group. The scariest thing is

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Speaker 2: potentially a false flag attack that you know is kind

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Speaker 2: of known about by people who would instill such incompetence

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Speaker 2: within a system, would who would purposefully erode the intelligence

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Speaker 2: systems within the United States, who would engage the United

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Speaker 2: States in an active war zone far far away from

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Speaker 2: the homeland. You know, it feels to me like a

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00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: larger picture that is being painted here, and you can

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Speaker 2: blame it on things like the the vengeance that the

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Speaker 2: standing president feels a wants to enact on people who

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Speaker 2: he feel are his enemies, people who have stood against him.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, in this case, folks who are investigating classified

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Speaker 2: documents that were kept at mar A Largo, because we

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Speaker 2: know by the toilet by the way, well, we know

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Speaker 2: that many of the people involved in these firings were

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Speaker 2: directly involved in those investigations, and we know there was

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Speaker 2: intense stuff coming out that was blocked. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: his name, but one particular investigator that was presenting information

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Speaker 2: to Congress and the full report was blocked from coming out.

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Speaker 4: Those are the ones, right, the keptain boxes like in

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Speaker 4: a bathroom at Mar A Lago. We saw images of that. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that's certainly when the investigations were happening.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and certainly not the first president to keep classified

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Speaker 2: documents like that, but it was definitely a big deal.

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Speaker 2: And the retaliation for investigating that, that thing seems to

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Speaker 2: be happening right here within the FBI, and not just

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Speaker 2: within the FBI, within the intelligence community and within the

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Speaker 2: Justice Department, which is very scary to me because it

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Speaker 2: doesn't to me, I don't buy the idea that it's

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Speaker 2: just someone resenting those actions and then taking revenge. It

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Speaker 2: feels to me like a bigger play because here's what

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: we know. In President Trump's first term, c I twelve

889
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: the folks that were just fired and hamstrung here. It

890
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: was instrumental in tracking potential threats from the Iranian regime

891
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: in retaliation for the twenty twenty drone strike that killed

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Speaker 2: General Solomoni. Many of us may not even really remember

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Speaker 2: that happening but in twenty twenty there was a targeted strike,

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Speaker 2: a drone strike that killed a very important general there

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Speaker 2: in Iran. And after that there were many Iranian backed

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Speaker 2: actors that were charged with plots to assassinate American officials

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Speaker 2: that Iran blamed for the death of Solomoni, including President

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Speaker 2: Trump himself, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and former

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Speaker 2: National Security of John Bolton. So this group, this intelligence

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Speaker 2: group within the FBI, has been instrumental in preventing attacks.

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Speaker 2: And now they're gone, and now the US is involved

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Speaker 2: in a major operation against Iran. Iran has vowed vengeance

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Speaker 2: right against specifically the US and Israel.

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Speaker 4: It fe'el super big fans of US to begin.

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Speaker 2: With, Absolutely, yeah, and for unfortunately good reason. But there

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Speaker 2: is it is just a very we It makes the

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Speaker 2: US very weak when you get rid of the intelligence

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Speaker 2: apparatus like that.

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Speaker 4: And just to add to that in terms of like

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Speaker 4: weakening preventative measures. I just saw a piece about satellite

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Speaker 4: imagery appearing to confirm earlier claims that a strike has

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Speaker 4: taken out the US Space Forces ANFPS one thirty two

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Speaker 4: ballistic missile early warning radar in Qatar, where you just

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Speaker 4: were Matt.

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00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: It's a one point one billion dollar system and one

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Speaker 4: of the largest radar installations operated by the US in

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Speaker 4: the Middle East. It is a crucial piece of tech

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Speaker 4: in order to receive early warning for ballistic missiles targeting

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00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: American forces well in the region.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, yeah, that's horrifying. You know, the Qatar, in the

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Speaker 2: very early stages of Operation Epic Fury, was able to

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Speaker 2: repel most of the attacks that came towards that base

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00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: that the US forces use, which is you know we

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Speaker 2: talked about in our Around episode right outside of Doha,

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Speaker 2: And it's because of that kind of technology that's here, right,

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Speaker 2: So if there's another salvo then that, I mean, just

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Speaker 2: your thoughts go out to all of the people who

929
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: are being affected across the entire Middle East by all

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Speaker 2: of the bombing and drone strikes and attacks and everything

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Speaker 2: that's happening right now, because it is not just soldiers

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Speaker 2: that are getting killed. It's horrifying and it really it

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Speaker 2: it makes you really need a good reason for this

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Speaker 2: kind of thing to be happening, Right, how do you

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Speaker 2: justify this kind of thing?

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Speaker 4: Well, they su aren't making much of an effort to

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Speaker 4: give us that. And you know, I was seeing some

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Speaker 4: commentary too about how even George W. Bush, you know,

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Speaker 4: with that whole charade with invading Iraq and the weapons

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Speaker 4: of mass destrection, they at least sent people to the

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Speaker 4: UN and did all kinds of species trying to justify it,

942
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Speaker 4: trying to sell it to the American people. We're not

943
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 4: having any We're not getting any of.

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Speaker 3: That that's happening now. Just to interject your quick no,

945
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 3: I'm serious. Yeah, that's happening now, but it's not as

946
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: effective as the propaganda of the past. We're also seeing

947
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 3: a lot of strange signals from Western Europe and NATO

948
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: right the US's separated girlfriend trying to figure out how

949
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: they will respond to this stuff, especially when they are

950
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: so much closer to Iran and therefore so much closer

951
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: to ballistic or what and ized capabilities. I do have

952
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: to tell you guys that this news, the recent attacks,

953
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: the escalations, the Bellicoast statements, the dead children, it makes

954
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 3: me think of Hiroshima, you know. And I remember seeing

955
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: seeing clothing from a kid who just went to school

956
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: the day the bomb dropped, and it's a sobering reminder

957
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: that this can happen. Here right, this can happen.

958
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 3: Just as anyone can become an other, you two can

960
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 3: become a target. So I agree with the suggestion that

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Speaker 3: we do actual episodes or a series of episodes following

962
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: the development of this conflict of the great resource game.

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01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: The thing is, you know, to that earlier comparison about

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01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: one of the Bush administrations at that time, one of

965
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 3: the things that analyst and journalist were quick to identify

966
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 3: was that there was no clear winning that was told.

967
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: There was no clear end game or you know, signposts

968
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 3: or milestones, because the American public was not being told

969
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: the truth about that conflict. And that is what is

970
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 3: happening here. In my opinion, absolutely, I yield my time.

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Speaker 4: Now you're a I mean, despite you know, maybe doing

972
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 4: a little walk in an Air Force uniform with a

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01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 4: mission accomplished sign, that doesn't make it. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Two things to remember. Attorney General Pam Bondi published a

975
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: series of memos on the first day of the Trump administration,

976
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: part due that paused all investigations into corporate foreign bribery,

977
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: curtailed enforcement of a foreign agent registration law, and de

978
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: emphasized the criminal prosecution of Russian oligarchs. Just remember that

979
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: kind of move right emphasized well but specifically curtailed enforcement

980
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: of a foreign agent registration law. Foreign agent registration. Think

981
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: about that, okay. Also know that there has been mass

982
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 2: departures in all of the intelligence apparatus as well as

983
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: the DJ We've.

984
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 4: Talked about it.

985
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: Check out those episodes. And one last thing, going back

986
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 2: to nine to eleven again, guys, reading a report from

987
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: February fourteenth, twenty twenty four here called repeated intelligence failures

988
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: not connecting the dots. This is from Domestic Preparedness. I'm

989
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: just going to read directly from it. The nine to

990
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: eleven Commission report concluded that the US intelligence enterprise was

991
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: squarely on a Cold War footing against an adversary that

992
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: no longer existed. As a result, US intelligence failed to

993
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: give credence to the many data points indicating the emergence

994
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: of a new threat. Siloed thinking and institutional policies that

995
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: limit intelligence sharing are two impediments to preventing surprise attacks.

996
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: We're thinking about surprise attacks here, guys, because we're talking

997
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: about getting rid of the people that pay attention to

998
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: foreign adversaries operating on US soil without information sharing across

999
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: intelligence services. Generating a compilation of data points to indicate

1000
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: a potential incident, especially a surprise attack, is challenging at best.

1001
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: And you know what they created after nine to eleven, guys.

1002
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: They created the Office of the Director of National Intelligence

1003
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: to make sure that the various intelligence agencies were working

1004
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 2: together and that there was an appointed official who would

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01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: do that work, who would ensure that the FBI and

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01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: the CIA and the NSA and everybody knows exactly what's

1007
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: happening all the intelligence that each one is gathering independently.

1008
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: So we can rest easy now, guys, because the current

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01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: appointed Director of National Intelligence, tull See Gabbert, who was

1010
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: recently accused of running interference between a whistleblower and the NSA,

1011
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: is at the wheel.

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Speaker 4: That's all I.

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01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 3: Got, and there's so much more to get into, folks.

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