Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase that Lee. It's for the Philly Show. Hey,
Speaker 1: Ruben Tomorrow Junior Jim Salisbury Todds is like, Hey, there's Ruben,
Speaker 1: It's the Philly Show. We're coming to you. After Sunday
Speaker 1: Nights eleven four Phillies victory over the Yankees. The show's
Speaker 1: post in Monday, July twenty seven, twenty twenty six, Phillies
Speaker 1: go three and six on the home stand. Guys, they
Speaker 1: avoid the sweep on Sunday night with a victory over
Speaker 1: the Yankees. But I want to start talking trades because
Speaker 1: you watch this team play over this nine game homestand
Speaker 1: and they need some help. So let's talk trades. It's
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Speaker 1: our show on Friday, guys, we went over like what
Speaker 1: fifty names, fifty different trade names, and we talked about
Speaker 1: is Jim like to say, through a lot of spaghetti
Speaker 1: against the wall.
Speaker 2: It was a good spaghetti show.
Speaker 1: It was a good it was a spaghetti western as perhaps,
Speaker 1: but we talked a lot about trades, and then Ruben
Speaker 1: kept saying, be bold, be bold, go all in, be bold,
Speaker 1: and then I read I want I read this article.
Speaker 1: Just the past few days, JJ Cooper from Baseball America
Speaker 1: went back and looked at every trade deadline deal from
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen through twenty twenty five, okay, six hundred and
Speaker 1: it basically backed up everything that Rubin said. Rubin, it's
Speaker 1: almost like you know, you've you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Six hundred and eighty nine prospects
Speaker 1: over the last eleven years. How many of those guys
Speaker 1: do you think came back and burned anybody? Not very many.
Speaker 1: How about this, Forty three point seven percent of all
Speaker 1: those prospects traded never made the big leagues. Twenty five
Speaker 1: point seven percent of them have zero or negative war. Okay,
Speaker 1: eleven point nine percent of them have point one to
Speaker 1: point nine war. And that means eighty one point three
Speaker 1: percent of all prospects traded from twenty fifteen through twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five have not amounted to a hill of beans
Speaker 1: pretty much? Does that make you guys say hell with it?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Trade them all, Trade every one of them, Trade each
Speaker 4: and every one of them, and don't look back.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're going to get major league players.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the whole point. I mean, if you're trying.
Speaker 4: To add, you add with what you add with talent,
Speaker 4: and you add with the high level talent hopefully, and
Speaker 4: the reality of it is you're adding players that are.
Speaker 3: Doing it now today in the major leagues.
Speaker 4: You're not adding players that are on the come when
Speaker 4: you're buying. And so I mean, the risk is worth
Speaker 4: the risk is worth the reward man, as far as
Speaker 4: I'm concerned. And if you have pieces that you need
Speaker 4: and you have pieces to give a team and they
Speaker 4: the way people value these, I've never understood how and
Speaker 4: why some of these organizations value these prospects so highly,
Speaker 4: because the reality of it is, you saw the numbers,
Speaker 4: they really don't pan out typically because they're prospects. And
Speaker 4: I mean, I just feel like there is a thought
Speaker 4: process that started two decades ago where the value of
Speaker 4: the prospect became so great that that people just didn't
Speaker 4: you know, didn't want to didn't want to move them. Well,
Speaker 4: they're just that they're prospects and they typically do not
Speaker 4: come back to buy.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 5: Hearing those numbers, tak it indicates to me that the
Speaker 5: prospect label is a fixed to too many players.
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, there's a there's top thirt you
Speaker 1: know MLB pipeline, they do a great job.
Speaker 2: Hold up is crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a top thirty, top thirty lists, you know
Speaker 1: all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But go ahead.
Speaker 6: But people, people know so much more about the players now,
Speaker 6: and they think since they know more about the players
Speaker 6: and they're more exposed that you know, listen, Triple A baseball.
Speaker 6: Difference between Triple A Baseball and Major League Baseball is a.
Speaker 4: Gaping gap, a gaping gap, let me assure you, and
Speaker 4: it's gotten bigger just telling you.
Speaker 5: But nonetheless, what's this team's payroll?
Speaker 3: Three thirty.
Speaker 1: Up there? Yeah that I am.
Speaker 5: Let's say three fifty three fifty three thirty three fifty
Speaker 5: three three. It's astronomical for a team with a payroll
Speaker 5: this high. They have an embarrassing amount of holes for
Speaker 5: a team with that high of a payroll. Offense, the
Speaker 5: lack of on base percentage, defense, the poor defense. They
Speaker 5: don't have enough pitching to get through the season. With
Speaker 5: two months to go, they need relief help. It's crazy
Speaker 5: how many holes they are they have, and they're not
Speaker 5: going to be able to address them all at this
Speaker 5: trade deadline, I say, go out and address the one
Speaker 5: you can address the best, Okay, But I am not
Speaker 5: backing off what I said the other day. They need arms,
Speaker 5: and I don't care where they need arms.
Speaker 1: So E've ben watching this offense. You know they had
Speaker 1: eleven runs on Sunday night, Jim, but you know, one run,
Speaker 1: one run, one run.
Speaker 5: You know, I'll take some contact. I'd love a contact hitter.
Speaker 5: I'd love somebody to help the on base percentage. I'll
Speaker 5: fix however I can best fix.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: The pitching really is scary. And I know what the
Speaker 5: offense looked like on this home stand. It was a
Speaker 5: dreadful home stand. I know they had a big win
Speaker 5: win Sunday night, but their game over five hundred at home.
Speaker 2: That's that's just not good enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was looking back and going back
Speaker 1: to what we were originally talking about, which is how
Speaker 1: prospects don't come back to haunt you, Ruben. I went
Speaker 1: back and looked at your four big monster trades, three
Speaker 1: trade dead deadline trades. One of them was not a
Speaker 1: trade deadline trade. That was the Royaliday trade with the
Speaker 1: Blue Jays in December two, two thousand and nine. I mean,
Speaker 1: is there anybody in those four trades? I'm talking cliff Ley, Royaliday, Royos,
Speaker 1: Will Hunter Pence. Nobody ever came back to haunt the
Speaker 1: Phillies franchise. There's nobody, you know who do you think.
Speaker 4: Would Carlos Carrasco probably had the most war, I mean,
Speaker 4: if you were gonna, I think he had the highest
Speaker 4: war of all those players.
Speaker 3: But he didn't become like a real quality major league.
Speaker 4: Player for like four years, right or five years after
Speaker 4: I traded him.
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 3: And so I mean there were some decent players there.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jay Happ probably ended up being a pretty
Speaker 3: good pitcher. He was solid.
Speaker 4: He was probably number two, number two, and then then
Speaker 4: was Michael Bourne was probably what I've never do.
Speaker 3: I don't think I traded no Michael.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pat traded Michael Bach, But.
Speaker 5: None of those guys, none of those guys, Travis Dar
Speaker 5: I'd never do that trade again.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no there's no Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio
Speaker 1: or whatever now type of trade. And is that the
Speaker 1: guy's name, Ernie Broglio? Is that his name? Brollio? There
Speaker 1: you go. See he is before my time. But at
Speaker 1: least I know the trade, But yeah, Carlos carrasco Ja Happ,
Speaker 1: Jonathan VR had a twelve point four war in his career,
Speaker 1: Travis Darnelt had a nice career eight point six. But
Speaker 1: then you get below that, Jared Cozart, Domingo Santana, Anthony Goes,
Speaker 1: Lou Mars, and Jason Donald, Kyle dre Back who was untouchable,
Speaker 1: Josh Side, Michael Taylor who was like the next big thing,
Speaker 1: John Singleton who is the next big thing. Jason Napp
Speaker 1: never made the big league. So think of all those guys.
Speaker 1: To me, yeah, all those guys were big prospects and
Speaker 1: none of them came back to haunt the Phillies.
Speaker 3: So trade them all.
Speaker 1: I like where your head's at, Ruben. They do have a.
Speaker 2: What'd you think of the home stand, Rubin?
Speaker 3: I thought it was very poorly played baseball generally.
Speaker 4: I didn't see any aspect of the game other than
Speaker 4: the two starting pitchers because their studs and Joan Duran
Speaker 4: that I just didn't see any aspect of the game
Speaker 4: that was that I could you point to and say,
Speaker 4: you know what they're they're doing a really good job here.
Speaker 4: In fact, I watched them the Yankees and the Phillies
Speaker 4: play this series, and what troubles me with the game
Speaker 4: of baseball is that these are two teams.
Speaker 3: Did none of them played very well at all? And
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be two of the best teams in
Speaker 3: baseball and we're talking about two of the top ten
Speaker 3: teams of baseball, I think, and I'm just not watching
Speaker 3: like quality baseball airrors, poor pitching, poor hitting, just bizarre.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, maybe it's the state of the
Speaker 4: game of baseball right now that there's only like one
Speaker 4: really good team and that's the Dodgers and probably the
Speaker 4: Milwaukee Brewers. But after that, I mean, what are you
Speaker 4: what are we looking at? I just it's just weird, man,
Speaker 4: the game of Maybe the players are tired, maybe at
Speaker 4: that time of the season where.
Speaker 3: Where it's the dog days of July.
Speaker 4: They're gonna get worse in August, and then you know,
Speaker 4: maybe they get juiced up again in September and October.
Speaker 3: But I just, like, I don't it's a little disheartening.
Speaker 3: The brand of baseball that I'm.
Speaker 2: Watching fundamentals were very poor.
Speaker 1: Does it It doesn't change anything in terms of what
Speaker 1: the front office is trying to accomplish in the next
Speaker 1: seven days, as it doesn't give them any pause if,
Speaker 1: like you know, you can make a bigger trade and
Speaker 1: maybe trade a gauge wood, or if something intrigues you
Speaker 1: where you might dangle an Andrew Painter. Does they give
Speaker 1: you any pause in that regard or now it does not,
Speaker 1: does it?
Speaker 2: I'm open.
Speaker 4: I have to go for it. There there there their
Speaker 4: windows closing. Man, it's going to close. And and I
Speaker 4: I you know, I think that there's windows are real.
Speaker 4: I've lived them, and I will tell you that this
Speaker 4: window is not going to stay open very long. I
Speaker 4: know the pitching is great, but you're starting to see
Speaker 4: some deterioration in some players and they're not going to
Speaker 4: be able to hold on for four or five years
Speaker 4: down the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they better make it happen soon, if not this year, and.
Speaker 5: If they if they're fundamentals or is lacking in October
Speaker 5: as they have been recently, they're going home early.
Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 1: best Phillies player play performance, whatever. They are easier weeks
Speaker 1: than others. This is not an easy week. Rubin and
Speaker 1: I were kind of talking about before Jim hop down
Speaker 1: going who we got this week?
Speaker 2: Who this week?
Speaker 3: Ruben? Do you have anybody? Well?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean on Sunday night, Bryce and Stott swung
Speaker 5: it really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and nice.
Speaker 5: Story in the nice story department, Brian Keller, thirty two
Speaker 5: year old rookie comes up, gives them three innings, one run,
Speaker 5: passable take it, but a nice personal story overcoming injury,
Speaker 5: a lot of perseverance in the manor leagues to get here,
Speaker 5: did a pretty good job. He'll stay with the team,
Speaker 5: probably be part of the number five puzzle as a
Speaker 5: bulk guy. At least one more turned through. So those
Speaker 5: are a couple of things that I mean, Trey swung
Speaker 5: it very well. The defense still a major major concern.
Speaker 1: Another error on Sunday night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you guys got, Rubin?
Speaker 3: You got? What do you got there?
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't get I don't think he got a
Speaker 1: hit on Sunday Night. But during this past week, the
Speaker 1: first five games or five or six games of this
Speaker 1: past week, JT. Real Muto was swinging the bat pretty well.
Speaker 1: Up until entering the night he was seven for fifteen
Speaker 1: betting four sixty seven. And listen, I'm not suggesting, you know,
Speaker 1: it'd be great if he could get things turned around.
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that he's going to return to prior
Speaker 1: form or whatever, but I mean, just for a bottom
Speaker 1: third of the lineup guy, if he could just hit
Speaker 1: like two fifty ish the rest of the season, that
Speaker 1: would be a huge boost compared to where he was.
Speaker 1: He was hitting I think two one, two hundred for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks that are right before the All
Speaker 1: Star breaks. So something good Ruben, you have you seen
Speaker 1: anything out of JT over the past week or so that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Interestingly, I just think that he's changed.
Speaker 4: His little leg kick has gotten a little bit less aggressive,
Speaker 4: in other words, not as high a leg kick. He's
Speaker 4: sort of up and down with it, and I think
Speaker 4: that's part of the reason why he's on time and
Speaker 4: swinging the bat a little bit better.
Speaker 3: There's been an adjustment there.
Speaker 4: At least that's my observation of what I've seen, and
Speaker 4: I'll probably I'll be in Miami to check out to
Speaker 4: check that out more closely.
Speaker 3: But that's what I see.
Speaker 4: Also think that both Wheeler and Lizarda were very good.
Speaker 3: I got to give those guys some love.
Speaker 4: But the guy that's getting the big piece of pie
Speaker 4: is Jackson Coven the guy who a twenty one year
Speaker 4: old who won the three.
Speaker 3: M Open in Minneapolis. That kid is twenty one years old.
Speaker 4: For him to go twenty five under and to break
Speaker 4: the record whatever that record was for that course, and
Speaker 4: then on top of it, to stave off the Scotti Scheffler,
Speaker 4: I'm giving a big piece of pie to that kid,
Speaker 4: Jackson Covin twenty one year old winning from Alabama or
Speaker 4: auburn or something from impressive.
Speaker 5: Very impressive. And to hold have Scotty Scheffler in your
Speaker 5: rearview mirror.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: That's my big piece of pie right going off the board.
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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper's in a funk, guys, I think I look,
Speaker 1: I just looked this up. Last twenty games he has
Speaker 1: like a five thirty eight ops. That's the worst twenty
Speaker 1: games stretch of his Phillies career. Well, he's really in it.
Speaker 3: That's not been elite. He has not been elite.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, while he was, you know, through the
Speaker 4: middle of the season, he was actually swinging the bat
Speaker 4: really well, but he's been in quite the funk, and
Speaker 4: particularly against left handed pitching.
Speaker 3: I do not like his approach. He's pulling off.
Speaker 4: When he pulls off like that, when his hips pull
Speaker 4: off to the first base side, really struggles.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: He doesn't stay on the ball, and I'm not sure
Speaker 4: what's going on, but he needs to turn it around.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it's a little lull before the storm.
Speaker 4: Because right now they're not getting a production out of
Speaker 4: the man.
Speaker 2: Looks like he needs a rest today.
Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna ask tru. But you got
Speaker 5: two right handers in Miami. I doubt he'll get unless
Speaker 5: he d h is and they can do something there.
Speaker 5: But he looks like and you know, it's not going
Speaker 5: to be ashamed of. Sometimes you need you need to
Speaker 5: rest a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And he hasn't played all game, every game for the
Speaker 4: last four or five years because he's been hurt on
Speaker 4: the five years ago. The first year knock Wood is
Speaker 4: the first time he's really been healthy all year long
Speaker 4: and in a long time, and so he's playing every day.
Speaker 4: I think it's starting to wear on him a little bit.
Speaker 5: It seems like he's hell bent on playing one sixty
Speaker 5: two for the statement that it carries and the badge
Speaker 5: of honor. But you know, sometimes you know, a little rest,
Speaker 5: can you know, one step back, two steps forward. He
Speaker 5: looks like, you know, he looked the whole team looked
Speaker 5: tired going into the All Star break. Yeah, and you
Speaker 5: know this homestand they didn't exactly look sharp. So I
Speaker 5: do think they'll get a second win here, but you'd
Speaker 5: like to see it come soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I I was not the ballpark on
Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday, but I did see that Don Manningley.
Speaker 1: I guess Schwarber was taking some ground balls at first
Speaker 1: base and they are going to try to get Harper
Speaker 1: a d H game at some point, to get him
Speaker 1: off his feet just a little bit. So that that
Speaker 1: was the thing that popped in my head, is maybe
Speaker 1: he's just kind of wearing down a little bit or
Speaker 1: just going through a lulla, you know, just a little tired.
Speaker 1: Maybe get him off his feet could help for a
Speaker 1: game or two.
Speaker 4: I don't know, she never really got that All Star break, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he had probably a lot of stuff going on. I
Speaker 4: mean he was on podcasts and on this and on that,
Speaker 4: and you know.
Speaker 2: A lot of going on.
Speaker 4: I'm run derby all types of stuff that you know,
Speaker 4: all that stuff wears on you. And the fact that
Speaker 4: he you know, he's not any younger, and he's got
Speaker 4: a lot of mileage on him.
Speaker 3: I know he's not that he's not, you know, old,
Speaker 3: but he's got a lot of mileage on a lot
Speaker 3: of Major league time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, anytime he's not going, you can definitely
Speaker 1: feel it in the lineup. But this team needs a
Speaker 1: lot of helping in a lot of other spots. I
Speaker 1: suspect he will bounce back eventually, for sure. Phillies opened
Speaker 1: up a three game series beginning Monday night in Miami.
Speaker 1: We will, we will, We'll all be there. It's hayesus,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Six forty pm Monday Night, Zach Wheeler against
Speaker 1: Old Philly Tyler Phillips six forty On Tuesdays Aaron Nola
Speaker 1: against Sandy al Contra, and then twelve to ten on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: is Jesus Lizardo versus tb D.
Speaker 3: That TVD guy's got good stuff, man, he's nasty.
Speaker 1: A little bit of this, a little bit of that,
Speaker 1: a little that, a.
Speaker 4: Little this, little that little that, maybe the Sandy al
Speaker 4: Contract game is like a little showcase for the fightings.
Speaker 2: Ruben, you would love that to have. And you've been on.
Speaker 3: Sandy oh long. I love Sandy Yes, la la la
Speaker 3: love him. Flow heavy, heavy flow.
Speaker 1: For Sandy al Contra. So that's what's going on. And listen,
Speaker 1: Ruben's got to catch a flight down to Miami, Jim.
Speaker 1: You get Jim's got to get to bed because he's
Speaker 1: got an early morning flight to Miami. Real quick, though,
Speaker 1: we we got to talk about real quick, Lebron James.
Speaker 1: We're not a basketball show, but are you guys excited.
Speaker 3: About Ron James? Lebron James, Lebron James. Congratulations of the
Speaker 3: six Ers. They're making themselves relevant once again.
Speaker 1: Finally, Jim, are you excited about Lebron coming? What do
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: I'm ecstatic?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: You're not a basketball guy, You're you're He's a hockey guy, dude,
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm ecstatic mcstatic. I like it when all the teams win.
Speaker 5: If he helps him win, I'm ecstatic.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a lot of fun. You know,
Speaker 1: I was saying last.
Speaker 3: Week, John, it's le John James for you, Josh John.
Speaker 5: James so tod I'm having a problem with personal problem
Speaker 5: on my phone. My my Uber app, like it's says
Speaker 5: it's been for like two weeks now since the last years.
Speaker 5: It just says loading and it won't que up.
Speaker 4: Okay, you want to restart, delete it and then and
Speaker 4: then restart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I would do. Jim. You can also,
Speaker 1: Jimmy is also get on Lift if you're looking for
Speaker 1: a ride of the airport tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You're what, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He loves those search charges.
Speaker 2: I don't want to complicate things.
Speaker 3: Lift is way cheaper.
Speaker 2: Start using a yellow checker taxi Ruben.
Speaker 1: Many years ago, we were it was a Phillies Ranger
Speaker 1: series in Arlington, Old Global, it was a Golden Globe
Speaker 1: Life Stadium or whatever it was called back then. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Jim had never taken a ride share before, and so
Speaker 1: Matt Alban I are outside the ballpark. We're showing, we're
Speaker 1: downloading the app, we're setting up the app for gym,
Speaker 1: and then we kind of Jim had to go straight
Speaker 1: to the airport, Gelb and I had to go We're
Speaker 1: going back to our hotel or whatever, and so we
Speaker 1: kind of walked across the street right and we just
Speaker 1: kind of sat there and looked around the corner, kind
Speaker 1: of like parents like letting their kid off to college
Speaker 1: for the first time.
Speaker 3: Jim's getting in the car. Jim's getting in the car.
Speaker 3: There he goes, there's our boy. He did it.
Speaker 1: Of course, he punched in the Houston airport, so they
Speaker 1: drove him all the way to George Bush. But that's
Speaker 1: the whole different story.
Speaker 3: Shocking. That was expensive.
Speaker 1: Where are we? Oh Man? All right, Jim, Hey, Jim,
Speaker 1: good luck try that with the app. I hope to
Speaker 1: see you in Miami tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I'll see you.
Speaker 1: I know, I'll see Reuben.
Speaker 3: He's got to run.
Speaker 5: If I delete it, well all my info come back,
Speaker 5: would have to re punch it in.
Speaker 1: It'll it should be in there.
Speaker 2: It'll be in there, It'll be in there.
Speaker 4: If it's not, then you can just uh, you know,
Speaker 4: sign in on your on your with your credentials.
Speaker 2: Well that would mean I need to figure out what
Speaker 2: my password is.
Speaker 3: But oh never mind, I don't know what to tell you. Well, well,
Speaker 3: talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Philly Show will be back on Wednesday. It
Speaker 1: might just be me and Ruben in Miami, depending how
Speaker 1: it goes. Jim might be sitting in the same spot
Speaker 1: out in Chester County.
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