Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: This week's Thursday Therapy, We've got doctor Daniel Pampa on.
Speaker 2: I have been following him on Instagram because he is
Speaker 2: full of knowledge. He's got a Pampa program, which is
Speaker 2: basically just his coaching program. We'll talk all about that
Speaker 2: and then all the things that he's telling us are
Speaker 2: not good for us. It's good a month. I'm so
Speaker 2: excited to chat with you because I my husband makes
Speaker 2: fun of me. He really wanted to be here too
Speaker 2: for this one, because you know, he had his own
Speaker 2: questions as well. But you know, because I'm always watching
Speaker 2: your Instagram videos, I'm like, okay, like this is not
Speaker 2: bad for me. That's not this is not good for me.
Speaker 2: This I'm like, oh my god. I was like, it's
Speaker 2: he gonna tell me drinking water is bad for me.
Speaker 2: Then it's like I saw your water thing like topsic
Speaker 2: water in your city. I was like, I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean it kind of poses a
Speaker 1: little problem, right, meaning that likes it's really hard. Right.
Speaker 1: I have my team making like guides because people are like,
Speaker 1: how do we get the plastic out of our life?
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start, all right, plastic
Speaker 1: guy forever, chemical guide. Right, It's like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: I just don't know what else to do, right, because
Speaker 1: you have a minute and a half to do a video,
Speaker 1: and it if people if you sit there and blab
Speaker 1: on longer than that, people just turn you off.
Speaker 2: Right, So well, okay, so don't look too close or
Speaker 2: you're going to see my fake eyelashes, which I know
Speaker 2: you said is not good to have on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you heard me say, this is what I
Speaker 1: think made that video go viral. Unfortunately, obviously you're very beautiful,
Speaker 1: so this is no critique here. But I said in
Speaker 1: the video, I said, you know, and I don't even
Speaker 1: like them, Okay, I don't, okay, And I think that's
Speaker 1: what made it a viral because I was like, and
Speaker 1: I got I got a lot of haters too, right,
Speaker 1: But it was you know that that kind of drives
Speaker 1: the video. You know, I don't ever try to drive
Speaker 1: a video by any means right controversial, but however, it was,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's the funny part about that video
Speaker 1: is my wife's assistant has fake eyelashes, and a week
Speaker 1: later she got soap in her eye and it dissolved
Speaker 1: the glue and she ended up in the emergency room
Speaker 1: for eight hours and they said, she, you know, mike
Speaker 1: o blind and she'll definitely need a coronary transplant sore her.
Speaker 1: You know, we use some different things that have helped,
Speaker 1: and last time she was there, they said, it looks
Speaker 1: like that she's going to keep her sight and she
Speaker 1: may not even need the transplant. So we'll see. But
Speaker 1: the irony of that, the irony of that that it
Speaker 1: dissolved the femila hyde went in and then in the video,
Speaker 1: I got criticism about that because she still had the
Speaker 1: other one in and well they're like they were afraid
Speaker 1: to do anything with it. Well, when they took it off,
Speaker 1: some of it went in and her immune system reacted
Speaker 1: to the phemala hide and you know, it wasn't as
Speaker 1: bad as this eye, but she went through a similar
Speaker 1: thing so she couldn't even see.
Speaker 2: That's insane, but also so glad that she's hopefully going
Speaker 2: to be okay. Is that the same with like the
Speaker 2: ones that stay on, like not the strip off ones,
Speaker 2: like the individual like ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's they're glued. It's a problem.
Speaker 2: Why again because of the formaldehyde.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the adhesive that they're using that has formale hyde.
Speaker 1: There's other chemicals in it too, but they think that
Speaker 1: formale hyde is what's creating a lot of the problems.
Speaker 2: Which are what which what are the problems again?
Speaker 1: So it's basically people are getting allergic reactions. After a
Speaker 1: year or more having the man, all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they start getting problems macular degeneration, uh, you know, different
Speaker 1: eyesight issues. I mean just you know, problems with the eyes. Right,
Speaker 1: same thing that she had, but she got a lot
Speaker 1: in at once, and it kind of all happened at once,
Speaker 1: you know. It is the irony was is people are like,
Speaker 1: well I've had these in for a year or whatever
Speaker 1: it was, right, It's like, you know, it's because it's
Speaker 1: resolved so quickly or so slowly. Hers went so quickly.
Speaker 2: Problem so crazy? What is one of the like what
Speaker 2: is the number one thing if person, if someone came
Speaker 2: up to you, is like, just tell me the one
Speaker 2: thing that is the worst thing that we do. What
Speaker 2: would it be?
Speaker 1: That's a hard one, however, you know, I would say
Speaker 1: right now, it's like the plastic exposure is really really bad.
Speaker 1: So people that are always drinking out of plastic. You're
Speaker 1: getting massive amounts. And then let's say you're a tea drinker.
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about eleven billion particles of tea, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like and then yeah, and then there's these
Speaker 1: hidden plastic sources in makeups and you know all of that,
Speaker 1: and it's massive hormone disruption and that's the problem. So
Speaker 1: are you minimizing that is a big deal. That's why
Speaker 1: I said, well, let's start with just a way to
Speaker 1: get plastic out of your life.
Speaker 2: Right, how do we do that?
Speaker 1: It starts in the kitchen and goes to your personal
Speaker 1: care products, right, And people don't think about personal care
Speaker 1: products as exposure, but it's great exposure on things like
Speaker 1: thalatees that are massive hormone disruptors. The chemicals in.
Speaker 2: Plastics, I've never if I'm being totally honest, I I mean,
Speaker 2: I kind of heard things about past but I've never
Speaker 2: had it related to hormone disruptors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the problem. Right. So recent study showed
Speaker 1: that they're finding the chemicals and plastic in every male
Speaker 1: testicle they you know, they've tested. They're saying, it's why
Speaker 1: we're seeing such low testosterones, lowess testosterons in the history
Speaker 1: of humanity, sperm counts, low sperm counts in the history
Speaker 1: of humanity, and it's also showing up in women's ovaries.
Speaker 1: But what it is is plastic. It causes problems with
Speaker 1: hormones multiple ways. Number One, it's a hormone mimic, so
Speaker 1: it literally it's estrogen mimic. So the body literally thinks
Speaker 1: it's estrogen it's not. And so that's a problem. They
Speaker 1: call zeno estrogens X and so that's an issue. But
Speaker 1: they are also disrupting hormones at the receptor sites, you know,
Speaker 1: where they're driving inflammatory, blocking hormones from basically interacting correctly
Speaker 1: with receptor sites. So yeah, you know, and then you
Speaker 1: add to it, the pesticide exposure is great. You know,
Speaker 1: glychis say, is allowing these chemicals to go deeper, crossing
Speaker 1: the gut, causing the blood brain barrier. And you know,
Speaker 1: so we're finding plastic in the arteries that this is
Speaker 1: a study that just came out. You know, they order
Speaker 1: driving They believe three to four times the amount of
Speaker 1: strokes and cardiovascular so you know, plastic is driving inflammation
Speaker 1: in general too in the body. So it's a new problem.
Speaker 1: There's a new movie coming out Plastic People or something
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, the whole point is is that you know,
Speaker 1: we're literally becoming plastic. It's like wow, which is crazy, right?
Speaker 2: I mean, so what do you do to get the
Speaker 2: plastic out of your life? What are some substitutions that
Speaker 2: you do well?
Speaker 1: I mean number one again, you have to be careful
Speaker 1: what you're putting hot foods in acid foods. People are
Speaker 1: still using plastic wrap on foods, big mistake. It's one
Speaker 1: thing putting, as an example, pretzels in a plastic container, right,
Speaker 1: it's not going to leach the plastic. But if you
Speaker 1: put spaghetti sauce, forget it. It's acid and hot, right,
Speaker 1: So think about that. It creates people are eating off plastic,
Speaker 1: People are drinking out of plastic. You have to minimize that.
Speaker 1: People are using spatchelos. I did a Instagram video, you know,
Speaker 1: saying like just get rid of these. You're putting it
Speaker 1: in hot things, and plastic particles are going all through
Speaker 1: your food cutting boards four million views, I think. But
Speaker 1: when you cut, all these particles go in and you
Speaker 1: know it's so anyways, still, I think you start in
Speaker 1: your kitchen because you have hot spicy things. What you're
Speaker 1: storing foods, and people put it in topperware and put
Speaker 1: it in the refrigerator and you're just pulling plastic and
Speaker 1: your tea literally almost one hundred percent of tea the bags.
Speaker 1: They're spraying the bags with plastic. Eleven point six billion
Speaker 1: microplastics in one cup of tea.
Speaker 2: So just getting like the tea like the strips.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I use. There's Elixir as a company
Speaker 1: that I love out of I know the woman who've
Speaker 1: developed it out of California, and a great product, very
Speaker 1: healthy product in general. But you know, obviously no plastics
Speaker 1: for other chemicals, which is a whole other topic. But
Speaker 1: you start in your kitchen all these things because it
Speaker 1: ends up in our food, ends up in our bodies,
Speaker 1: right from the water to the food to the acid.
Speaker 1: What we're storing and what we're cutting on, you know
Speaker 1: what we're flipping things with all of it. And then water, right,
Speaker 1: it's like I said, people are putting water in plastic
Speaker 1: drinking water bottles. Look, you know it's hard. In Europe
Speaker 1: they're kind of catching onto this. We were in the
Speaker 1: hotels and they were giving us cartons instead of plastic
Speaker 1: which I thought was like, oh, that's amazing, right, And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just basically saying like, this is what
Speaker 1: we're up against, you know, and what I teach and
Speaker 1: have taught for twenty years now and now I'm bringing
Speaker 1: it directly to the public is real detox is what
Speaker 1: you need. It's not as simple as sitting in asana.
Speaker 1: We have to upregulate these self functions that get rid
Speaker 1: of Toksin's daily otherwise, yeah, we're going to end up sick.
Speaker 1: We're gonna end up. It starts with fatigue. Then it's
Speaker 1: brain fog that has got problems. That's some symptoms that
Speaker 1: like so many people are dealing with that these are
Speaker 1: cellular toxicity issues.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. But also when you were talking about being
Speaker 2: at the hotel too, my husband I just got back
Speaker 2: from a honeymoon and he's like, I haven't had anything
Speaker 2: out of a plastic bottle this entire time we've been
Speaker 2: in Italy because everything was either like glass. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: like every he's like, not one plastic bottle.
Speaker 1: Wake up America. But it's at all you know, Look,
Speaker 1: you know there's we have great things compared to Europe
Speaker 1: in different things, right, but one thing that they're not
Speaker 1: exposed to is the level of toxins.
Speaker 2: I will just say, like, I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is what you're talking about. But when I went to Italy,
Speaker 2: I've never had I mean, I ate so much bread
Speaker 2: and had some alcohol and pastas and I didn't I
Speaker 2: was employed it all. It was the flattest my stomach
Speaker 2: ever was. And the second I came back to the States,
Speaker 2: I've been bloated. I'm not breaking out really bad, which
Speaker 2: I've never break out, and you know, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe I just try a piece. I was like, I
Speaker 2: was fine having the bread in Italy, like I should
Speaker 2: be fine. I was like bloated, stomach hurts like all
Speaker 2: the things, and I'm like, this is just proves the
Speaker 2: point how bad our food is. I mean, still like
Speaker 2: three weeks later and I'm still like, why is my
Speaker 2: skin still so bad?
Speaker 1: So true, I sat in I was speaking in Croatia
Speaker 1: and I was at a seminar in Croatia and they
Speaker 1: had this gut panel that I sat in on and
Speaker 1: it was very interesting. Right, So there was like maybe
Speaker 1: five or six experts on the panel, and it was
Speaker 1: a very mixed audience, like you know, half American half
Speaker 1: European audience, and I'm sitting there in this gut panel
Speaker 1: just like, oh man, they're missing it. They're missing it.
Speaker 1: They're talking about fermented foods and different probiotics and all
Speaker 1: these gut solutions and the problem of the gut. Not
Speaker 1: one person was talking about the toxins and the toxins
Speaker 1: effect on the I and I didn't they knew who
Speaker 1: I was in the audience. I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: disrespectful and be like, you missed it, right, And I
Speaker 1: was literally my son was like poking me behind me,
Speaker 1: like Dad, just you know, speak up. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be that guy. This German guy
Speaker 1: over here in the question answer raises his hand and
Speaker 1: says no disrespect to the all American panel, which it was.
Speaker 1: He goes, but we had a conversation yesterday at lunch,
Speaker 1: and I find it, you know, very telling to this conversation.
Speaker 1: He said, we had, you know, some Americans at the
Speaker 1: table and some Europeans, and the Americans were going on
Speaker 1: and on about their gut problems and their thyroid problems
Speaker 1: in the different symptoms, and We're looking at each other,
Speaker 1: and then you know, they started walking away from the table,
Speaker 1: and we had a conversation amongst ourselves, like do you
Speaker 1: have those problems you and none of us had gut problems,
Speaker 1: and none of us had these hormone the thyroid problems.
Speaker 1: You know, it appears it's just an American thing, and
Speaker 1: so can I make a suggestion. I think it's the
Speaker 1: toxins that you all were exposed to that were not
Speaker 1: And then this other woman from like Switzerland, razorans, she said, well,
Speaker 1: look I go to the United States. She said, what
Speaker 1: you said. When I go to the United States, I
Speaker 1: get all these gut problems, I get blowed and all
Speaker 1: these things happen. I come back and everything's good again,
Speaker 1: and then all these people you know, start sharing that's
Speaker 1: the issue. Yeah, glif estate is outlawed in most of
Speaker 1: those countries. Right, it's not in the wine, it's not
Speaker 1: in the food. That's a chemical that you know they're
Speaker 1: spraying on our food as a pesticide, herbicide. But like
Speaker 1: all the colorings, the food colorings, the red dyes, the
Speaker 1: yellow dyes, their outlawed. BHT. I could go down a
Speaker 1: list of preservers and chemicals. You can't bring lucky charms
Speaker 1: in to that country because it's the illegal gatorade. You
Speaker 1: can't sell gatorade there unless you reformulate, which a lot
Speaker 1: of companies do to get it into those countries. It's banned.
Speaker 1: These products are banned. The products that our kids reading
Speaker 1: in this country. Most of the cereals and drinks are
Speaker 1: banned in Europe, you know, and we wonder why. Look,
Speaker 1: I was making the point earlier. You don't see fat people.
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in Italy. I've spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time in France. Where are the fat people?
Speaker 1: You know, it's oh, they're there, the Taurus coming in.
Speaker 1: You know, you can spot an American a mile away. Right.
Speaker 1: It's like, so, what is it? Is it the diet?
Speaker 1: The italianzy twenty percent more carbohydrates than we do, twenty
Speaker 1: percent more on average. So I don't know. No, it's
Speaker 1: the chemicals. The chemicals are driving the hormone resistance, which again,
Speaker 1: here's another problem in the US. I'll get to that
Speaker 1: in a minute. But it's chemicals that are making people fat.
Speaker 1: It's the chemicals that are giving the brain fog, the
Speaker 1: gut problems. It's the chemicals, and we're worried about the environment.
Speaker 1: We should be worried about this environment because that's what's
Speaker 1: being polluted, right, and the lobbyists are protecting because the
Speaker 1: chemical companies are right here.
Speaker 2: I want to go to your Celluar detalks and talk
Speaker 2: about your program, but I do want to know, well,
Speaker 2: first of all, it's also like being so hard as
Speaker 2: a mom in this generation. I've got three kids, two
Speaker 2: of which are in you know, school, but it's and
Speaker 2: they're in you know, two different houses too, and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: why I want the goldfish. I was like, this is
Speaker 2: the thing. We don't have that here. We're not going
Speaker 2: to ever have that here. I'm sorry you cannot like me.
Speaker 2: I was like, but it's the fresh fruit that we have,
Speaker 2: the vegetables. Like, I can't remember the last time I
Speaker 2: gave my kids anything like that, because I know they're
Speaker 2: going to get it at other places. They're going to
Speaker 2: get it at you know, their dad's fine, school, fine,
Speaker 2: But it's just it drives me crazy because it's like
Speaker 2: it's it's like I'm I'm this awful, mean mom because
Speaker 2: I don't want to feed my kids this bad stuff
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I now know the you know, and
Speaker 2: I think it was also, you know, my husband's from
Speaker 2: Scotland and so he was also like you know, right,
Speaker 2: I was giving them the bad cereals until now I've
Speaker 2: gotten more knowledge of Okay, what is and like because
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, they wouldn't be poisoning us in our foods,
Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, they are, you know, and like
Speaker 2: so that's like now looking at everything and I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, it's all out. It's done. And I had
Speaker 2: to literally get my kids to like detox from like
Speaker 2: any of the sugar that they had because they're like,
Speaker 2: well this doesn'taste God, I'm yeah, because it's not filled
Speaker 2: with just crap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly know.
Speaker 2: And that's been like a whole and now I feel
Speaker 2: like they're finally like, you know, on the other side
Speaker 2: of like, oh, I don't like the way this tastes,
Speaker 2: and like exactly because it doesn't. It's not it's not good.
Speaker 1: For you excitotoxins. I mean, when you look at the
Speaker 1: chemicals you pick up the average cereal, you can't read
Speaker 1: half of it, right, It's and I have a little
Speaker 1: saying if you can't read it, don't eat it. Definitely
Speaker 1: don't give it to your kids, right And it's it's
Speaker 1: so many chemicals that we're ingesting now that will be
Speaker 1: banned five years from now. They're already banned in Europe. Right,
Speaker 1: it's I mean tri sodium phosphate TSP. I was like
Speaker 1: I was showing the cereals that have this in it. Right,
Speaker 1: it's other snacks that kids eat too. It's basically it's
Speaker 1: it's a paint thinner. I mean it's and here's what
Speaker 1: the government says, Oh yeah, but in the amounts the
Speaker 1: concentration that it's used in pain thinner is a solvent.
Speaker 1: It's far less than the prime. I don't care this
Speaker 1: stuff bioaccumulates. It's like I'm not giving my kid that
Speaker 1: it's banned in Europe. It's like, you know, it should
Speaker 1: be banned here. You know, TSP shouldn't be in any product,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I don't care if you call it,
Speaker 1: you know, grasp, which generally safe. You know, It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because what they never take into
Speaker 1: consideration is that these chemicals accumulate in our tissues, and
Speaker 1: when they accumulate, there's a building effect and a decline
Speaker 1: in health over time. So don't tell me about your
Speaker 1: study that says in small amounts it's safe, but in
Speaker 1: large amounts we strip paint with it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, okay, So how how then do you, like?
Speaker 2: How how do you eat cleanly?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 2: I mean? Because it's again even hard to go out
Speaker 2: to restaurants because don't know where you're getting your So
Speaker 2: it's like, how do you follow your cellular detox? First
Speaker 2: of all, how do you do it? And then how
Speaker 2: do you how do you live? Like? What are the
Speaker 2: supplements you take? What do you like? I just want
Speaker 2: to I want to do what you do? Tell us?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. You know what's so funny is my team said,
Speaker 1: you know, people do a video Instagram video on like
Speaker 1: what you doing today? I said, listen. I'll lose them
Speaker 1: right there because they'll be like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: I do though I do my listeners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, it's so simp I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I did today so far? Right for fun, you know.
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is I want to be clear
Speaker 1: on one thing. My detox is not a diet, right.
Speaker 1: The diet changes are very very necessary, but we're at
Speaker 1: a time that even changing your diet doesn't get you
Speaker 1: well anymore. You know. Detoxing at the cellar level is
Speaker 1: how I've helped thousands and thousands of people, you know,
Speaker 1: with different conditions. Right, the body has an ability to
Speaker 1: heal itself. You have to remove the big cause. These
Speaker 1: toxins that we're talking about are the big cause of
Speaker 1: a factor, the hormone disruptors, you know people, That's what
Speaker 1: I was going to say right now. It's in vogue
Speaker 1: in this country is taking low hormones and raising them
Speaker 1: up with hormones. There's a time and a place, but
Speaker 1: it's not the answer because what's happening is the level
Speaker 1: of toxins. Toxins are driving something called cellular inflammation of
Speaker 1: So let me say it differently. It's hormone resistant, meaning
Speaker 1: our hormones become resistant two or our cells become resistant
Speaker 1: to the hormones. So if that's a cell. On every cell,
Speaker 1: you have receptors to hormones, meaning that the hormone like thyroid, hormone, insulin, estrogen,
Speaker 1: they have to attach to the receptor and get themselves
Speaker 1: in the cell or their message. So blood levels become
Speaker 1: irrelevant when these hormones can't get in the cell. So
Speaker 1: in other words, when I was sick, I kept going
Speaker 1: my thyroid's not right, my hair stinning. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: getting skinny, fat, losing muscle, gaining fat, no energy. I
Speaker 1: mean I had everything. If you go on life, I
Speaker 1: had all the symptoms, Your thyroid went out, my blood
Speaker 1: work done, it was normal for now, maybe another five years,
Speaker 1: ten years it would have been out of range. But
Speaker 1: also people are making blood levels of thyroid hormone is
Speaker 1: one example normal. But here's the problem. If toxins are
Speaker 1: blocking these receptors, which is what's happening, it's called hormone resistance,
Speaker 1: then it can't get in the cell. Doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you improve your blood levels. Insulin resistance people are familiar
Speaker 1: with that. That means that you have plenty of insulin,
Speaker 1: but the receptor it's resistant. Well, there's estrogen resistance, testosterone resistance.
Speaker 1: This problem is what toxins are driving. And then there's
Speaker 1: also something called central hypothyroidism, where toxins are accumulating in
Speaker 1: the control tower, the pituitary, and you can't even get
Speaker 1: the right hormone balance in your body because the control
Speaker 1: tower's poisoned. So the point is is that diet alone
Speaker 1: today isn't going to make that problem better. That's the
Speaker 1: cellular detox is what I teach. How do we get
Speaker 1: rid of these toxins, you know, off the cells. How
Speaker 1: do we get ourselves doing what they should be doing
Speaker 1: every day so we can feel normal and have normal energy.
Speaker 1: But to your question, that's a diet. What did I
Speaker 1: do today? Okay? Boringly? I got up, I had my
Speaker 1: little mushroom cut coction with I drank one cup of
Speaker 1: coffee a day. It's a very healthy coffee, and I
Speaker 1: put mushrooms in it. Pretty boring. And then I went
Speaker 1: to the gym. And then I came back from the
Speaker 1: gym and I got sardines and water. Why not olive
Speaker 1: oil because a lot of the olive oil is cut
Speaker 1: in sardines to save money. I think sardines is very healthy.
Speaker 1: I don't eat them every day. But this is what
Speaker 1: I did today. But I took the drained the water off,
Speaker 1: put my own incredible olive oil in it. And what
Speaker 1: else did I put in a little bit of avocados
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes a little bit of grass fed cottage cheese,
Speaker 1: and I mix it together. And that's what I quickly
Speaker 1: ate before I did the show.
Speaker 2: Do you only like whole foods organically shop.
Speaker 1: Or I do? I mean I shop more of a
Speaker 1: local little health food store has better produce than whole
Speaker 1: foods honestly, but yeah, we buy organic only. I did
Speaker 1: some Instagram videos because I get criticized. Organics thirty percent
Speaker 1: more on average, some products fifty percent. Can't afford it? Okay,
Speaker 1: great eat from the Clean fifteen, and I did a
Speaker 1: video on what that is. Here's the foods that really
Speaker 1: there's not that much pesticide used because they don't have to.
Speaker 1: And then stay away from the Dirty dozen. And if
Speaker 1: you just bought organic, if you wanted strawberries because it's
Speaker 1: in the Dirty dozen or spinach, then buy organic just
Speaker 1: in that right. So I did that video for people
Speaker 1: who go, well, you know, I can't afford it, But
Speaker 1: my argument would be, you can't afford not to get
Speaker 1: organic day. You know it's look it is, this is
Speaker 1: a big problem. I mentioned one pesticide that they're spraying
Speaker 1: herbicide glycasate. It's creating leaky gut. Everyone's running from gluten.
Speaker 1: It's not the gluten unless you have silliac disease. It's
Speaker 1: the value of leaky gut in the gluten protein's crossing
Speaker 1: into your bloodstream, and you're making antibodies and reacting to it. Lectins,
Speaker 1: fight tates. Do you hear about these people? It's these
Speaker 1: are plant toxins that ten years ago nobody was reacting to.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say nobody, but rarely. Ever. Now today everyone's
Speaker 1: getting rid of histamines, lectins, fightates. Plants haven't changed. We changed.
Speaker 1: We have a leaky gut being driven by these toxins.
Speaker 1: You know when you asked me another part of that question,
Speaker 1: you said, what about when I go out to eat? Look,
Speaker 1: I know where to go. I mean I travel. I
Speaker 1: know every healthy restaurant in every city there always is one.
Speaker 1: But also if I end up at a restaurant, I
Speaker 1: know how to order. Right, I'm ordering wild caught fish.
Speaker 1: Most restaurants, especially on the West Coast, have you know,
Speaker 1: grass fed meat choices. And I'll order the vegetable and
Speaker 1: I eat. I'll eat from the clean fifteen. All right,
Speaker 1: It's like I won't order.
Speaker 2: Where do we find the clean fifteen? Is that in
Speaker 2: your Pampa program?
Speaker 1: If you if you go to my Instagram, which is
Speaker 1: just Dr Pompa, right, Doctor Pompa, I did that video
Speaker 1: within the last two weeks. I did that. I did
Speaker 1: one on the Dirty Dozen. There's two videos there, okay, perfect,
Speaker 1: you'll see both.
Speaker 2: And then where can so our listeners can where can
Speaker 2: they sign up for the POMPA program.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the PAMPA program. If you just go to pompuprogram
Speaker 1: dot com, you can actually watch a teaching that I
Speaker 1: did there. It's I've taught doctors for twenty years, and
Speaker 1: it's basically what I've been teaching for twenty years. It's
Speaker 1: more on this concept here of what we have to
Speaker 1: do to get our lives back and to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: And I'm really talking about these major neurotoxic sources that
Speaker 1: if we can get rid of these and get ourselves working,
Speaker 1: then we can get our lives back. That's what the
Speaker 1: teaching is. So if you go to pump program dot com,
Speaker 1: watch the webinar that's there is it's free and you'll
Speaker 1: be wide open eyes, and then you can join Pumper
Speaker 1: program if you desire. But the education is very good.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for what you do. Yeah, and just
Speaker 2: this was very insightful, so I really appreciate it. I'm
Speaker 2: going to go get rid of some of my tepward
Speaker 2: downstairs and that is all very enlightening in the Spatch list.
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I just made my eggs
Speaker 2: with that about twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I use that. You can use silicone
Speaker 1: is better now than the plastic would. Now that's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. What is even better, Chris better,
Speaker 1: stainless steel is even better. And then don't use tefloon
Speaker 1: pans and non stick. Caraway is a great brand that's
Speaker 1: non stick that I use. So we can even get
Speaker 1: into my pants next time you do this. We'll have fun.
Speaker 1: We'll do I'll take my phone and then we'll go
Speaker 1: into my kitchen.
Speaker 2: Okay, don yeah, I'll make sure my husband's on that
Speaker 2: one because he's got some more questions for you too.
Speaker 2: So this is a part one. We'll get you on
Speaker 2: for a part two. Absolutely. Thanks John, all right, thank
Speaker 2: you so much. Appreciate you. All right, boyebye bye