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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This week's Thursday Therapy, We've got doctor Daniel Pampa on.

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Speaker 2: I have been following him on Instagram because he is

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Speaker 2: full of knowledge. He's got a Pampa program, which is

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Speaker 2: basically just his coaching program. We'll talk all about that

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Speaker 2: and then all the things that he's telling us are

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Speaker 2: not good for us. It's good a month. I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited to chat with you because I my husband makes

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Speaker 2: fun of me. He really wanted to be here too

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Speaker 2: for this one, because you know, he had his own

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Speaker 2: questions as well. But you know, because I'm always watching

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Speaker 2: your Instagram videos, I'm like, okay, like this is not

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Speaker 2: bad for me. That's not this is not good for me.

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Speaker 2: This I'm like, oh my god. I was like, it's

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Speaker 2: he gonna tell me drinking water is bad for me.

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Speaker 2: Then it's like I saw your water thing like topsic

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Speaker 2: water in your city. I was like, I can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean it kind of poses a

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Speaker 1: little problem, right, meaning that likes it's really hard. Right.

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Speaker 1: I have my team making like guides because people are like,

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Speaker 1: how do we get the plastic out of our life?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start, all right, plastic

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Speaker 1: guy forever, chemical guide. Right, It's like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: I just don't know what else to do, right, because

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Speaker 1: you have a minute and a half to do a video,

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Speaker 1: and it if people if you sit there and blab

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Speaker 1: on longer than that, people just turn you off.

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Speaker 2: Right, So well, okay, so don't look too close or

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Speaker 2: you're going to see my fake eyelashes, which I know

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Speaker 2: you said is not good to have on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you heard me say, this is what I

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Speaker 1: think made that video go viral. Unfortunately, obviously you're very beautiful,

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Speaker 1: so this is no critique here. But I said in

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Speaker 1: the video, I said, you know, and I don't even

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Speaker 1: like them, Okay, I don't, okay, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: what made it a viral because I was like, and

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Speaker 1: I got I got a lot of haters too, right,

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Speaker 1: But it was you know that that kind of drives

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Speaker 1: the video. You know, I don't ever try to drive

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Speaker 1: a video by any means right controversial, but however, it was,

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Speaker 1: you know. And it's the funny part about that video

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Speaker 1: is my wife's assistant has fake eyelashes, and a week

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Speaker 1: later she got soap in her eye and it dissolved

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Speaker 1: the glue and she ended up in the emergency room

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Speaker 1: for eight hours and they said, she, you know, mike

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Speaker 1: o blind and she'll definitely need a coronary transplant sore her.

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Speaker 1: You know, we use some different things that have helped,

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Speaker 1: and last time she was there, they said, it looks

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Speaker 1: like that she's going to keep her sight and she

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Speaker 1: may not even need the transplant. So we'll see. But

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Speaker 1: the irony of that, the irony of that that it

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Speaker 1: dissolved the femila hyde went in and then in the video,

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Speaker 1: I got criticism about that because she still had the

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Speaker 1: other one in and well they're like they were afraid

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Speaker 1: to do anything with it. Well, when they took it off,

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Speaker 1: some of it went in and her immune system reacted

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Speaker 1: to the phemala hide and you know, it wasn't as

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Speaker 1: bad as this eye, but she went through a similar

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Speaker 1: thing so she couldn't even see.

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Speaker 2: That's insane, but also so glad that she's hopefully going

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Speaker 2: to be okay. Is that the same with like the

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Speaker 2: ones that stay on, like not the strip off ones,

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Speaker 2: like the individual like ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's they're glued. It's a problem.

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Speaker 2: Why again because of the formaldehyde.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the adhesive that they're using that has formale hyde.

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Speaker 1: There's other chemicals in it too, but they think that

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Speaker 1: formale hyde is what's creating a lot of the problems.

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Speaker 2: Which are what which what are the problems again?

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Speaker 1: So it's basically people are getting allergic reactions. After a

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Speaker 1: year or more having the man, all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: they start getting problems macular degeneration, uh, you know, different

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Speaker 1: eyesight issues. I mean just you know, problems with the eyes. Right,

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Speaker 1: same thing that she had, but she got a lot

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Speaker 1: in at once, and it kind of all happened at once,

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Speaker 1: you know. It is the irony was is people are like,

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Speaker 1: well I've had these in for a year or whatever

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Speaker 1: resolved so quickly or so slowly. Hers went so quickly.

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Speaker 2: Problem so crazy? What is one of the like what

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Speaker 2: is the number one thing if person, if someone came

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Speaker 1: That's a hard one, however, you know, I would say

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Speaker 1: right now, it's like the plastic exposure is really really bad.

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Speaker 1: So people that are always drinking out of plastic. You're

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Speaker 1: getting massive amounts. And then let's say you're a tea drinker.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about eleven billion particles of tea, right,

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Speaker 1: and it's massive hormone disruption and that's the problem. So

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Speaker 1: are you minimizing that is a big deal. That's why

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Speaker 1: I said, well, let's start with just a way to

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Speaker 1: get plastic out of your life.

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Speaker 2: Right, how do we do that?

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Speaker 1: It starts in the kitchen and goes to your personal

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Speaker 1: care products, right, And people don't think about personal care

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Speaker 1: products as exposure, but it's great exposure on things like

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Speaker 1: thalatees that are massive hormone disruptors. The chemicals in.

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Speaker 2: Plastics, I've never if I'm being totally honest, I I mean,

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Speaker 2: I kind of heard things about past but I've never

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Speaker 2: had it related to hormone disruptors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the problem. Right. So recent study showed

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Speaker 1: that they're finding the chemicals and plastic in every male

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Speaker 1: we're seeing such low testosterones, lowess testosterons in the history

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Speaker 1: But what it is is plastic. It causes problems with

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Speaker 1: hormones multiple ways. Number One, it's a hormone mimic, so

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Speaker 1: it literally it's estrogen mimic. So the body literally thinks

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Speaker 1: call zeno estrogens X and so that's an issue. But

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Speaker 1: a study that just came out. You know, they order

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Speaker 1: There's a new movie coming out Plastic People or something

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Speaker 1: I mean number one again, you have to be careful

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Speaker 1: what you're putting hot foods in acid foods. People are

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Speaker 1: still using plastic wrap on foods, big mistake. It's one

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Speaker 1: thing putting, as an example, pretzels in a plastic container, right,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to leach the plastic. But if you

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Speaker 1: So think about that. It creates people are eating off plastic,

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Speaker 1: People are using spatchelos. I did a Instagram video, you know,

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Speaker 1: your tea literally almost one hundred percent of tea the bags.

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Speaker 2: So just getting like the tea like the strips.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I use. There's Elixir as a company

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Speaker 1: developed it out of California, and a great product, very

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Speaker 1: healthy product in general. But you know, obviously no plastics

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Speaker 1: for other chemicals, which is a whole other topic. But

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Speaker 1: What we're storing and what we're cutting on, you know

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Speaker 1: it's like I said, people are putting water in plastic

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Speaker 1: drinking water bottles. Look, you know it's hard. In Europe

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Speaker 1: it directly to the public is real detox is what

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Speaker 1: We have to upregulate these self functions that get rid

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Speaker 1: of Toksin's daily otherwise, yeah, we're going to end up sick.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. But also when you were talking about being

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Speaker 2: in Italy because everything was either like glass. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: like every he's like, not one plastic bottle.

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Speaker 1: Wake up America. But it's at all you know, Look,

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Speaker 2: I will just say, like, I don't know if this

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Speaker 2: I've been bloated. I'm not breaking out really bad, which

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Speaker 2: maybe I just try a piece. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: So true, I sat in I was speaking in Croatia

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Speaker 1: They're talking about fermented foods and different probiotics and all

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Speaker 1: We have a leaky gut being driven by these toxins.

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Speaker 1: You know when you asked me another part of that question,

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Speaker 1: know how to order. Right, I'm ordering wild caught fish.

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Speaker 1: Most restaurants, especially on the West Coast, have you know,

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Speaker 1: I eat. I'll eat from the clean fifteen. All right,

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Speaker 1: It's like I won't order.

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Speaker 2: Where do we find the clean fifteen? Is that in

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Speaker 2: your Pampa program?

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Speaker 1: If you if you go to my Instagram, which is

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Speaker 2: And then where can so our listeners can where can

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Speaker 2: they sign up for the POMPA program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the PAMPA program. If you just go to pompuprogram

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Speaker 1: And I'm really talking about these major neurotoxic sources that

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for what you do. Yeah, and just

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Speaker 2: this was very insightful, so I really appreciate it. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go get rid of some of my tepward

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Speaker 2: downstairs and that is all very enlightening in the Spatch list.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I just made my eggs

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I use that. You can use silicone

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say. What is even better, Chris better,

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Speaker 1: stainless steel is even better. And then don't use tefloon

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Speaker 1: non stick that I use. So we can even get

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Speaker 1: into my pants next time you do this. We'll have fun.

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Speaker 1: We'll do I'll take my phone and then we'll go

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Speaker 1: into my kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, don yeah, I'll make sure my husband's on that

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Speaker 2: one because he's got some more questions for you too.

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Speaker 2: So this is a part one. We'll get you on

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Speaker 2: for a part two. Absolutely. Thanks John, all right, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. Appreciate you. All right, boyebye bye