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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Elliot Now your hosts, Nicky Spagnola,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. And what a
Speaker 1: beautiful Tuesday it is here at the Star in Frisco
Speaker 1: and inside the SWBC Mortgage studios as it is officially
Speaker 1: now Eagles Week, the biggest week of the season, and
Speaker 1: lots to get to as we get started on this Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, and Everson Walls. Everson
Speaker 1: fort time Pro Bowler Everson Walls should have been more here.
Speaker 1: It should have been more. I just I just went
Speaker 1: back and looked at it as the Pro Bowl team
Speaker 1: was announced last night. So Everson Walls made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Is first three years eighty one, eighty two, eighty three,
Speaker 1: skipped two year in eighty four and then in eighty five.
Speaker 1: Four out of the first five years in the league.
Speaker 1: It should have been more. Should have been more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never said that's that's okay. I think Old Desert
Speaker 1: it would have been more in the presiday. I'm unfiltered. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go a present day with all the people that
Speaker 1: bail out of the Pro Bowl and you may not
Speaker 1: have initially got in, but you got in. People campaign, man,
Speaker 1: they campaign for Pro Bowls. Back then, I didn't believe
Speaker 1: in all that crap. I mean, you're campaid now I'm coming.
Speaker 1: I was campaigning for three years ago for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. I didn't know. I was so unusual for me,
Speaker 1: but it was fun. And in honor of National Signing
Speaker 1: Day today, the Grambling uniform or gram Way shirt worn
Speaker 1: by Everson Walls. That's right, weep scrats. I heard in
Speaker 1: the walkoff Clarence Hill told us that Emmett's sons YEA J.
Speaker 1: Smith Stanford. I was thinking, I always he hid it
Speaker 1: down to a Florida, Georgia, A and M. I can't
Speaker 1: remember another school and Stanford. And I saw it last night.
Speaker 1: I said, I bet he goes Stanford. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: went Stanford went stan Yes for the educational aspect because
Speaker 1: the team is okay. Yeah, I mean you know the
Speaker 1: SEC versus Pack twelve. Yeah, they've got a good coach.
Speaker 1: No brainer to me. I'm thinking sec if I want
Speaker 1: to get some. We've also really given out some really
Speaker 1: good running backs as of laid out of Stanford, Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey being one of them. Yeah, and maybe he fits
Speaker 1: their offense. He really does him in the statue. He
Speaker 1: built like Emma built like, but slimmer, I think, faster,
Speaker 1: better receiving skills. He's more like a McCaffrey. That's that's funny.
Speaker 1: He just brought that up. He's more like a McCaffrey
Speaker 1: than he is his dad, no doubt, yep. And uh.
Speaker 1: In fact, Michael Irvin we uh we talked about e
Speaker 1: J on the last pre season game we did and
Speaker 1: when Emmett was in the booth, and um I brought
Speaker 1: it up and and Michael Irvin said, no, he's not
Speaker 1: like He's not like him, and he is more like me.
Speaker 1: And then he because this guy, this guy can catch
Speaker 1: the football. I really can't talk about field. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: great field. So good point right off the top there,
Speaker 1: Mickey e J. Smith. Congratulations to EJ. And what a
Speaker 1: season he had. It was injury plagued a little bit,
Speaker 1: but he got Dallas Jesuit deep into the playoffs and
Speaker 1: they rode. EJ just like the Cowboys used to ride
Speaker 1: him back in the day, and now can the Cowboys
Speaker 1: ride Ezekiel into the playoffs this Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the news of the day right off
Speaker 1: the top. Rob Phillips came into the SWBC Mortgage studios
Speaker 1: and said something about Dak's shoulder, which Jason Garrett brought
Speaker 1: up on his own at the outset of his trust
Speaker 1: compare that was that was out of character? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: it's been what his sprained left non throwing hand. He's
Speaker 1: got a finger issue on his right index finger. Which
Speaker 1: one is that? How old are you so much? And try? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's this one. And now apparently, according to Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: he's got a banged up right throwing shoulder that popped
Speaker 1: up in the first quarter. I think I think of
Speaker 1: the game. Was it run so early? Was eight o
Speaker 1: eight left in the first quarter? First and ten at
Speaker 1: the ten and he no, never mind, carry on? Yeah
Speaker 1: I found it. He ran. He ran on the first
Speaker 1: play for seven yards. You know if you do, yes,
Speaker 1: that's old people's So he made it through the game, okay,
Speaker 1: And but he's going to be somewhat limited in practice today.
Speaker 1: According to Jason Garrett, I don't think the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: in pads. They're in shells, So I don't probably out
Speaker 1: of pad practice, yeah probably Yeah, you only get about
Speaker 1: a dozen of those. Yeah. Um, So I don't know
Speaker 1: how much thrown he's gonna do today. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: probably more work for Cooper Rush I bet not. I
Speaker 1: bet this was the first practice he was even limited
Speaker 1: in since he got here. This would be my guest.
Speaker 1: I don't ever him being on a product him based
Speaker 1: on what you just said. I mean that serious. It's
Speaker 1: got to be pretty bad. I think it's something they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to manage throughout the week and get him
Speaker 1: to a point where hopefully he can be functional throwing
Speaker 1: the football. Um. And maybe this is more of a
Speaker 1: precautionary day, let it rest, let it calm down. But
Speaker 1: it is something that got sore for him after the game,
Speaker 1: because I think during the game he was okay getting
Speaker 1: through it and then the adrenaline probably calms down and
Speaker 1: here it's sore again. So something to want And how
Speaker 1: many times that's happened, I mean, you know all the
Speaker 1: games he's played. It's like, yeah, accident, You're not gonna
Speaker 1: feel it necessarily next day, that night, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: two days later. You're right, I mean, for him to
Speaker 1: for this moment, that's kind of that's kind of alarming.
Speaker 1: It's a little un right if you're a Cowboy fan,
Speaker 1: because I mean, he's been on the injury report in
Speaker 1: his career. But I Mickey's right, I don't really recall
Speaker 1: him missing much practice time. And Jason was asked and
Speaker 1: he goes, could be so yeah, I just don't remember
Speaker 1: him ever missing a practice and tyring smith his eye.
Speaker 1: There's an issue there is y'all ever had a sty
Speaker 1: in your eye? Apparently? Yes, apparently you have. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: apparently what happened. It's gotta be Is it as huge
Speaker 1: as he is? I mean, like mine are just like lit?
Speaker 1: But is it like proportionately his eye is closed? Apparently?
Speaker 1: According to Jason? You know what the remember he is
Speaker 1: for that? You know how you can hack that? What
Speaker 1: you got? Tea bag? Oh yeah, yeah, hot hot tea bag? Well,
Speaker 1: Jason cloth, so yeah, hot tea bag, put a tea
Speaker 1: bag and to do something. I believe it worked on me.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody told me that about sprained ankle, what
Speaker 1: like put a hot tea bag on your sprained ankle
Speaker 1: and it'll it'll cure help fast. It took my swelling
Speaker 1: down within twenty minutes. I was at my sister's house
Speaker 1: and she told me about it. It worked perfectly because
Speaker 1: I get him it once the while, h have you
Speaker 1: told Luca that he tea bag on his ankle? You
Speaker 1: know what? He might need someone pass along. That's right,
Speaker 1: all right, So that's somewhat. I mean, Cooper Rush doesn't
Speaker 1: take any snaps in practice. He'll get some this week.
Speaker 1: I think Jason said, you know what, Wednesday and Thursday
Speaker 1: he gets nothing, so he might get one set on Friday.
Speaker 1: The life of a backup quarterback. Jason did say in
Speaker 1: the press conference about Dak he's a pretty tough individual.
Speaker 1: He'll be ready to go, right. I'm sure they feel
Speaker 1: like knowing him by Friday, by Saturday, by Sunday, he'll
Speaker 1: be good. But again, you got to manage it. You
Speaker 1: got to make sure that he can throw and do
Speaker 1: all the things he needs to do to play. That's
Speaker 1: one thing. But I want to play, Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: full str right, It's two different things, right, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: Philadelphia sitting there going all right, what shoulder is yeah.
Speaker 1: And and as you mentioned, the point in the game
Speaker 1: that happened, that was the play where he came out
Speaker 1: of the pocket and Clay Matthews was chasing him down
Speaker 1: and that was it. Yeah, yes, yeah, so And the
Speaker 1: problem with that also is if it's a non throwing shoulder,
Speaker 1: you know, you can tie it down, tape it down
Speaker 1: to do something. But with with a throwing shoulder, you
Speaker 1: kind of need you want to emtion. But that the
Speaker 1: one times a bruise or if it's like an a
Speaker 1: seed joint, because a lot of times arm gets stretched out,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what happened things. But yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: what you wanted to hear. Nope, not at all. There
Speaker 1: are we mentioned Pro Bowls ever since Pro Bowls right
Speaker 1: off the top, and there are four Pro Bowl players
Speaker 1: for your Dallas Cowboys this year. That would be Tyrann
Speaker 1: Smith as well as Zach Martin and Travis Frederick and
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. So far for right, well, we know where
Speaker 1: I braid, but right, yeah, it could have been one
Speaker 1: more because I think, you know, Lele Collins has played
Speaker 1: awfully well here, I think, and I bet if there's
Speaker 1: a replacement needed he may be one of the top
Speaker 1: couple of guys too, or if they specifically did it
Speaker 1: by the position right, yeah, differentiated left and right tackle,
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins would probably be right at the top as
Speaker 1: far as right tackles go in this league because all
Speaker 1: the tackles were left tackles that I hadn't seen the list.
Speaker 1: Is it um the QB's h is it the old
Speaker 1: Overliable the Cousins. No, they didn't make it either. Breeze
Speaker 1: of course, Rogers, of course, Rogers and Wilson kind of
Speaker 1: hard to argue with it. Well, got a great year,
Speaker 1: he did, and and Dak's having a career year two.
Speaker 1: I just the Breeze one surprises me because he missed
Speaker 1: five games, and I know he's come back and he
Speaker 1: set a record the other night. But man, but that
Speaker 1: is the homecoming King, man. I mean, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: they love the NFL just loves him. If they have
Speaker 1: if they don't have a selling point, if it's going
Speaker 1: to be a boring game and the Saints are playing,
Speaker 1: then all they do is just queue up every Drew
Speaker 1: Breese reception and completion in life like that back to
Speaker 1: produce Homecoming King. I like that, man, it's got mean
Speaker 1: to me. It's about the game. I think as a dB,
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, you know, when we go with this
Speaker 1: whole quarterback thing, I think we get a little bit
Speaker 1: carried away with it sometimes and we'll go out to
Speaker 1: how important they are to the team, the other positions
Speaker 1: and other aspects of your team. So that's just my beat. Okay,
Speaker 1: so so so so who you're so? Who are your
Speaker 1: AFC quarterbacks? Then AFC quarterbacks? God Lamar Jackson of course
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but also Patrick Mahomet Mahomes. That's the only
Speaker 1: two that I can see, and Deshaun Watson was the
Speaker 1: other one. Was he really? Wow, that's kind of surprising.
Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of been up and down. His
Speaker 1: whole team has been up and down, and his performance
Speaker 1: has been up and down. Wow, he made it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it now. I mean because he's exciting, isn't.
Speaker 1: I mean he bumped Tom Brady out of there? No
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? How about that? I wonder how many Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls Tom Brady has actually played in, actually played in? Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. Like you think Dak cares if
Speaker 1: he doesn't, I mean, if he doesn't play in that game.
Speaker 1: He doesn't care. You're playing for something. You know, if
Speaker 1: he's like Everson thirty years from now, he'll care, right,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a russ more now that the other
Speaker 1: the left tackles other than Tyran that made it were
Speaker 1: Taran Armstead and David Back to Harry or however year
Speaker 1: you want to just say that Da David? What bare
Speaker 1: go bags about running backs? Zeke Dalvin Cook, Christian the
Speaker 1: aforementioned Christian McCaffrey in the NFC, Yeah, I didn't have
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to argue with anything. The wide
Speaker 1: receivers Mike Evans, Chris Godwin to Julio Jones and Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas's that's pretty two Tampa Bay bucket barks a little surprising,
Speaker 1: but they put up some numbers. Put up numbers. The Evans,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Chris Godwin from Tampa Bay and then
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Julio Jones are the starters. When's the
Speaker 1: last time the Cowboys didn't have a defensive player in
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I'm not saying it's way back, but
Speaker 1: he had to pull out my media guy that didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't look down. Yeah, maybe that's for the break. Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to take us down a road, but well,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody deserved to be there. No, it's
Speaker 1: no doubt about right. No, none of them deserve to
Speaker 1: be there. Now. I don't think anybody got slighted in
Speaker 1: terms of tackles. Jalen's up there in terms of the
Speaker 1: NFC tackles. But but you got two spots and see again,
Speaker 1: two spots for inside linebackers, and and Bobby Wagner. Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner and Um Keighley. You're not really going to top
Speaker 1: those guys most years anyway. Coaches of the Year of
Speaker 1: the week we coaches, yeah, very nice. Uh. And visitors
Speaker 1: to the press conference. Yes, they were in the press conference, okay,
Speaker 1: kind of they meant Jason mentioned and I think he
Speaker 1: went back in and talked to them afterwards. Were they
Speaker 1: having the seminar on how to avoid questions? Yes, well
Speaker 1: he got they got one. Yeah, oh yeah, he was
Speaker 1: pretty good. I think they three times on the Philadelphia Man,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. You know. I gotta say, guys,
Speaker 1: with these with the press conference. I looked at coach
Speaker 1: coach Tomlin the other day after he lost. I think
Speaker 1: it was Monday night though he nailed his quarterback, didn't
Speaker 1: he Yeah, but what I do. But when you look
Speaker 1: at it, you know, there are times when he doesn't
Speaker 1: say Jackie. Most he just said it like we're gonna
Speaker 1: take of it, and he looks mean like and then
Speaker 1: everybody's like, hey man, that guy he's good. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's really saying the same thing that Jason. I saw.
Speaker 1: I read the quotes from Peterson's press conference yesterday. What
Speaker 1: what stay Wednesday? No, I guess it was either Monday.
Speaker 1: I think it was Mondays and great quotes, right, they
Speaker 1: didn't say anything, Ah, how great the cowboy he swore
Speaker 1: her right. I don't know what we're gonna do to
Speaker 1: stop him, because we didn't have a very good performance.
Speaker 1: Stop at him the first time, you know, say we
Speaker 1: give Jason Garrett. You know what Tomlin did though the
Speaker 1: other day I heard it on the radio, so I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's accurate or not. So they decided
Speaker 1: to I want to make sure it's the right team now,
Speaker 1: Hodges starting quarterbacks Steelers Steelers, that's right. And they asked
Speaker 1: him why he's Hodges starting instead of going back to
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and he goes, well, he's got the best
Speaker 1: chance not to get us killed. Masone said that, yes
Speaker 1: the game. He must not like that. But that's why
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett doesn't say stuff right that, because if he did,
Speaker 1: he knows his position. He knows he's the head coach
Speaker 1: of the most visible team in sports, and anything he says,
Speaker 1: anything remotely like that is going to go viral on
Speaker 1: social media. I wouldn't. That's why doesn't do it? Tell
Speaker 1: you if that if Jason like on that right exactly,
Speaker 1: we were already known about it. If he did it,
Speaker 1: not even if we didn't work here, m chance not
Speaker 1: to get us here. That's why he's unfair. It is
Speaker 1: very unfair. I think it would help his public perception
Speaker 1: if he was more. But go ahead, Rob, Well, he's
Speaker 1: just not gonna He's gonna stay on brand. Ultimately, I
Speaker 1: think it's the right move because because of his position
Speaker 1: that he's in. But you know Doug Peterson when they
Speaker 1: lost to Miami and he said he's disgusted and embarrassed
Speaker 1: and all that. Like, Garrett's never gonna say stuff. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you do say that. It really doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's good father. It's good theater. But
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter whatever Jason, whatever Garrett tells you,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter how he says it. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna give you anything. And I must admit, if I
Speaker 1: was a head coach of Dallas Cowboys, the way we're
Speaker 1: separated out from every other team, I wouldn't give y'all
Speaker 1: Jack either. Right, that's right, because he's gonna turn everything
Speaker 1: into something that's right. You know, I don't have to
Speaker 1: sid all of that. And you can't control he is
Speaker 1: like the Belicheck, but just with a smile. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you can't. He's a nice Belicheck. Can't control sound bites
Speaker 1: either on TV because they can pick and choose exactly
Speaker 1: how the whole thing to do that. And the other
Speaker 1: side of it is you got Jerry, who speaks a
Speaker 1: couple three times a week. Who's more He's like more
Speaker 1: fan facing, talking to the fans. Mickey always said that's
Speaker 1: kind of his When he's talking, it's more messages to
Speaker 1: the fans. Jason is more team facing day to day.
Speaker 1: That design design you could think back, go back, and
Speaker 1: everybody thinks how tough Parcels was. Right when Parcels criticizes.
Speaker 1: It's after a win. He never criticizes his players. After
Speaker 1: a loss. He would stick up for him, that's right.
Speaker 1: But after a win, it's like, wow, yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: to do better. This has got to be better. Who
Speaker 1: had the best presser? Who had the best among Scott
Speaker 1: Boys coaches? Who had the best press conferences? Well, Jimmy
Speaker 1: John unfiltered Switzer, Switzer really unfilled. Jimmy was good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Switzer would say stuff off the wall. It was
Speaker 1: so funny. You would always do a double take on
Speaker 1: whatever he was saying. But the whole point about the kid,
Speaker 1: he's still young. He hadn't dropped yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: great line that talk like that. Don't bring it up
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys played Cincinnati. David Shula was the head
Speaker 1: coach at Cincinnati, and Switcher said, well, it's like playing
Speaker 1: Iowa State. Wow. Well, he wasn't the only one to
Speaker 1: get on little Shula, and he was. He wasn't mean
Speaker 1: spirited about it. He didn't mean it like that. He was.
Speaker 1: It was like in the context of all right, it's
Speaker 1: tough to get your team to play against a team
Speaker 1: that's you know, two and eight right now, Like it's
Speaker 1: like playing against Iowa State. Well barely beat him, barely
Speaker 1: beat him. And at the handshake, oh, I think Shula
Speaker 1: said something like, well, how was Iowa State today? He was?
Speaker 1: It was so classic. Okay, And before we go to break,
Speaker 1: answer Rob's question about the last time the Cowboys had
Speaker 1: a defensive player make not Pro Bowl, not not make
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, not make the Pro Bowl. It was
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. Okay, Well that was a good year
Speaker 1: for it was a good year. Eight Cowboys made the
Speaker 1: playoffs or made the Pro Bowl, and Dez Bryant, Travis Frederick,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, DeMarco, Murray, Tony Romo, Tyrn Smith, Jason Witten,
Speaker 1: and LP Lettuce are made year. How do they decide
Speaker 1: on the deep snapper because most of them are one
Speaker 1: hundred percent right. What LP didn't do anything is extremely
Speaker 1: slim under you look at the list of tackles and
Speaker 1: see if the deep snapper made any tackles. I'm sure,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's right. How do you how do you
Speaker 1: discuste snappers don't even get touched on on It's a
Speaker 1: great question because if you do anything wrong at that job,
Speaker 1: you're gone. I mean, you don't have a job. For
Speaker 1: any type of consistency. Right, Look, I mean you must
Speaker 1: screw up once and they're probably looking around. I'm sure
Speaker 1: the snappers have a low union thing going on the
Speaker 1: side to where they know they know who's done what,
Speaker 1: who's like the perfect snapper? Who does the holder like? Well,
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Speaker 1: The scrub team called the nuts squad. Yeah, not the
Speaker 1: practice squad. We were the nutsquarer. Oh yea, yeah right,
Speaker 1: I don't think we had. Okay, you know, Philadelphia's got
Speaker 1: some injury problems also, by the way, and they had
Speaker 1: a couple of new ones crop up. Their starting linebacker
Speaker 1: Camu Gruisier Hill has a herniated disc in his back
Speaker 1: and he needs surge, so they put him on injured reserve.
Speaker 1: So he's out, and they still don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: On Lane Johnson, they're right tackle who feels like got
Speaker 1: snubbed in the Pro Bowl voting. Uh, he's got a
Speaker 1: he missed last week with a high ankle sprain. Now
Speaker 1: if it's a high ankle sprain, they're saying, well, we're
Speaker 1: not We're uncertain. It's like you don't come back in
Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, And I was reading about some of
Speaker 1: these in injuries. Doug Peterson will say, guys are trending
Speaker 1: in the right direction, but you don't really know what
Speaker 1: that means. I mean, Lane Johnson, Nelson Aguilar, where are they?
Speaker 1: They're they're trending up, they're not trending downward. But does
Speaker 1: that mean they're closer to playing? You know? You know,
Speaker 1: Ails missed four of the last five games with the knee,
Speaker 1: so that's not looking good. Uh. And I noticed without
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson since twenty sixteen, they're four and ten. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any correlation there, but very good
Speaker 1: pronouncing David Beck DR's name. Would you please pronounce the
Speaker 1: name of the replacement for Lane Johnson. It's hollow vite
Speaker 1: I shortened his first time. That's what that's what the
Speaker 1: nickname the players give him. Okay, and try to do
Speaker 1: the twenty letter first name. H A l A p
Speaker 1: O U L I v A A t I. Okay,
Speaker 1: you lost me. Yeah, he's getting the pronunciation, all right,
Speaker 1: you work on that any other so that those two
Speaker 1: things are going on there. Not to mention the two
Speaker 1: receivers are on I R. And the star wide receiver
Speaker 1: now is Greg Ward. The former quarterback at Houston, And
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it. Tyler, John Tyler, he was the
Speaker 1: quarterback there and he actually beat Mahomes in a playoff
Speaker 1: district championship play off game in twenty twelve thirty eight.
Speaker 1: About that good information. This guys, that's pretty good there.
Speaker 1: But evidently when he caught the winning touchdown against the Redskins,
Speaker 1: that was his first NFL touchdown, and he got a
Speaker 1: he got a text message from Mahomes. He goes, my guy,
Speaker 1: it's just like and he goes, and I'm still mad
Speaker 1: at you. But it is a different dynamic for the
Speaker 1: Eagles offense from the first time we saw him. Everson
Speaker 1: mentioned the receivers that are out. Miles Sanders has taken
Speaker 1: on a larger role for them in the running game.
Speaker 1: And this guy's good. There's a good player. There's their starter.
Speaker 1: Howard has also been injured, right, but so Sanders is
Speaker 1: Sanders a dual threat? Everson a guy what's his numbers?
Speaker 1: Because every time I look at him, this guy's breaking tackle,
Speaker 1: is making great moves. He's in the secondary a lot
Speaker 1: running play or passing play. This guy's extremely verstly. What
Speaker 1: school did he come from? Pint? Wow, this guy's good.
Speaker 1: So he against Washington and he had nineteen for one
Speaker 1: twenty two and a touchdown, six catches for fifty and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. And in the last five games that he started,
Speaker 1: he's got three hundred and fifty one yards rushing. So now,
Speaker 1: as a cowboy coaching staff, all these wide receivers are
Speaker 1: out circle some guy named Zach Ernst and Dallas guy
Speaker 1: because that's where they're going. They're throwing to those guys.
Speaker 1: They're tight ends against what got correct? What don't I
Speaker 1: say wrong? Got her? No? Nope, dirts ERTs ernts close enough.
Speaker 1: It's a mission and ten ten right, make it a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. Dude, you got some, you got nicerian,
Speaker 1: You've got their left guards, got into their left guard down.
Speaker 1: That's not the guy that made the Pro Bowl, is it? No?
Speaker 1: Got that one? Another different name, just another different name.
Speaker 1: Who is it? Isaac s e U M A. L O. Tallow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's simple. Here you go. That was easy, like hollow
Speaker 1: he wanted to show off on that, Yeah, thats let's
Speaker 1: say he has to do that. He's a broadcast. Yeah
Speaker 1: I'm not not Les. No, you win the challenge? Yeah
Speaker 1: all right? Um, all the Pro bowlers it was like
Speaker 1: you like that. You can tell the way the bread
Speaker 1: is buttered on this Cowboys team. How important and especially
Speaker 1: considering the fact that Dak is now nursing another injury,
Speaker 1: how big are those guys this week against this Eagle steam.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see one of those old schoolball games.
Speaker 1: Just gonna be a lot of running, a lot of running.
Speaker 1: Running backs are going to be the stars of this game.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Deacon of Zach, I'm a guy, I'm
Speaker 1: careful out there you can find I did hoping that
Speaker 1: Dak is not as injured as as I fear that
Speaker 1: he is. But either way, I think this game is
Speaker 1: going to have to be won. And I've said it
Speaker 1: all week in the trenches and with what's going on
Speaker 1: now on our side, as well as what we already
Speaker 1: know about Carston Wentz and the lack of receivers. Now
Speaker 1: that Dak has this little small injury, I don't think
Speaker 1: we should just come out trying to wing it. I
Speaker 1: really don't. I think we should have a conservative game
Speaker 1: plan because our defense should be able to stop this
Speaker 1: team to where we don't have to do anything goofy,
Speaker 1: you know, nothing too tricky. You want to have some
Speaker 1: well timed deceptive plays in your game plan because that
Speaker 1: might get you over the top as far as a
Speaker 1: touchdown the red zone. But I'm looking at an old
Speaker 1: school uh what it called slobber knocker. I remember that word?
Speaker 1: Who used a slobber knocker Jr? And pro wrestlers, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we're I'm looking forward to in this game.
Speaker 1: It was Jackson, how's the weather going to be in Philly?
Speaker 1: I think hold, but no precipitation perfect, Probably in the
Speaker 1: thirties by time they start the game. So the first
Speaker 1: time around, Zeke had twenty two carries for one hundred
Speaker 1: and eleven yards. He caught six passes for thirty six
Speaker 1: So that it was here. And I recall last year
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys went to Philly with Zeke had a
Speaker 1: big game. Yes, in that gear, that's what I want
Speaker 1: to play in Philly. I think the question in the
Speaker 1: press conference was every time he's played Philly, he's had
Speaker 1: at least ninety five or ninety six yards rushing. That's
Speaker 1: interesting because they always have a good front and they're
Speaker 1: trying to gear up to stop him. But to ever
Speaker 1: since point, the biggest defense, the biggest key in the
Speaker 1: game first time around was the defense. They started four
Speaker 1: drives inside Philly territory thanks to Yeah, and the first
Speaker 1: time all year. The Cowboys started any drive inside the
Speaker 1: opponents into the field first time all year and got
Speaker 1: twenty one points out of it. So and can they
Speaker 1: can they take advantage in the secondary again because that's
Speaker 1: been an issue for Philly at times this year. I
Speaker 1: think Amari went over one hundred yard receiving in that
Speaker 1: game too, one or six. Yeah, So I don't have
Speaker 1: to be predictable. We talked about it yesterday. You've got backups.
Speaker 1: You got Winden, then you got Jarwing. Okay, You've got Cooper,
Speaker 1: you know, Then you've got Gallup, then you've got you
Speaker 1: still have Cobb, then we have Pollard, we have Elliott.
Speaker 1: You don't have to force anything to anybody, right. I
Speaker 1: know Cooper's your guy, but man, Gallops your guy too.
Speaker 1: Cob needs to be your guy more on third downs,
Speaker 1: and I know what they're doing. They're probably thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: where he's gonna go to Cobb on third day. I
Speaker 1: just like up with Cole Beasley and better, probably favoring
Speaker 1: him in coverage. But we just don't have to force
Speaker 1: it to anyone. Drawing to me is one of the
Speaker 1: more athletic white, white, white guys I've seen a long time. Dude,
Speaker 1: this guy he does not He does not shy away
Speaker 1: from contact. When he's down the field, he's looking in zone,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. And he's not the only one. You look
Speaker 1: at all those that he's made when he's down the
Speaker 1: middle of he's full bore down the sidelines. Nobody wants
Speaker 1: to tackle this guy. I think he needs to play more.
Speaker 1: I think he should play more in the clutch two minutes.
Speaker 1: I don't mind having Whitten out there. I'll put both
Speaker 1: of them out there. I think it gives us a
Speaker 1: great one two punch in the tight end area. This
Speaker 1: is the way the game is going nowadays. Guys tight ends,
Speaker 1: extremely athletic tight ends. When is that guy that moves
Speaker 1: the chains, but Jarving is that guy that gets it
Speaker 1: down the field. I think we need to have that
Speaker 1: combo a little bit more. He's not a volume catcher.
Speaker 1: He just makes and they should be. And yes, Blake
Speaker 1: Jack Jarwin, what do you have two catches for forty
Speaker 1: yards last year? Yeah, he does it all the time.
Speaker 1: It does it all the time, like a draft coming
Speaker 1: at you. And to answer ever since question about how
Speaker 1: Zeke has done at Philadelphia in his career, He's played
Speaker 1: in two games at Philadelphia. Last year it was nineteen carries,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty one yards nearly eight yards as
Speaker 1: a carry. And the last game of the twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: season twenty seven carries one hundred three yards two one
Speaker 1: hundred yard at Lastia's game. Was that that was when
Speaker 1: they got back on track. Yes? Yeah, did he not
Speaker 1: play and he didn't play in twenty sixteen in the
Speaker 1: last game because that was the last last game of
Speaker 1: the year. They sat him. That's right, all right? We
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Speaker 1: Star right, all right, we got the break wait now here,
Speaker 1: so I don't have much time. We even we got later.
Speaker 1: We got off to go off to a later start.
Speaker 1: So he's always five minutes. So we need to fill
Speaker 1: this last minute or so the boss is waiting outside.
Speaker 1: How do you want to fill this last minute? We
Speaker 1: were comparing the numbers Dak versus Rogers. Oh that's right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: put a exclamation point on Dak in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: So Dak's got He's ranked third in completions, Rogers in
Speaker 1: the league, in the league and Rodgers is tied for eleventh.
Speaker 1: Dak is second in yards, Rogers is eleventh. Dak's fifth
Speaker 1: in average per attempt and Rogers is fifteenth. Dak is
Speaker 1: fourth in touchdowns and Rogers is ninth. I agree, the
Speaker 1: Dak got hosed and the key thing is wins. I mean,
Speaker 1: just like the MVP voting, the last day to vote
Speaker 1: for the players and coaches was last Friday, and at
Speaker 1: that point the Cowys lost three games in a row,
Speaker 1: and they took the quarterbacks who won the most games.
Speaker 1: That's what it came down. Well, that was my answer.
Speaker 1: When you know, the thing about MVP came up, right,
Speaker 1: there's Dak an MVP candidate. I go, yeah, he is,
Speaker 1: but the team isn't. And so you know, you know
Speaker 1: darn well, however, well you played as a quarterback. If
Speaker 1: your team's five hundred, you ain't the m probows and
Speaker 1: not about m vps. It's about numbers, right period. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probos about by the way, you better have a best differ.
Speaker 1: Totally different in this day and age, with the Internet
Speaker 1: and everything. Why in the world they vote on the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl with three games left in the season is
Speaker 1: beyond me. I mean, it's nearly nearly a quarter of
Speaker 1: the season still to be played, and we're voting on
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. That was because back in the day
Speaker 1: they had the mail event, right, did you guys fill
Speaker 1: them out like you filled out before? We would? We would,
Speaker 1: and we bring it to the to the practice field.
Speaker 1: Actually sometimes we do it right there at the practice
Speaker 1: field really, not like a meeting in the meeting room.
Speaker 1: No well no, what I mean is at the met
Speaker 1: in the meeting room at the practice field in the
Speaker 1: meeting room. Yeah yeah, yeah, all right. That does it
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