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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, Robot and I just walk into the

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Speaker 1: we just saw the much anticipated, much talked about, and

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Speaker 1: much maligned Snow White, and we got.

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Speaker 2: A doozy of a review. Welcome to this episode of

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Speaker 2: Amy and TJ. Rose.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to get in front of the microphones while

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Speaker 1: this was still fresh on our minds. Right now is

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Speaker 1: still fresh to the point we might still be full

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Speaker 1: of some emotions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we literally saw the movie. I think we walked

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Speaker 3: out of the theater twenty minutes ago, and actually, right

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Speaker 3: in front of us right now is the original. It's

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Speaker 3: it nineteen thirty seven version, and it is interesting to

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Speaker 3: see now one right after the other. How some things

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Speaker 3: were actually true to form a most shot for shot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there were definitely moments where you're like, oh wow, that

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Speaker 3: was actually exactly what they recreated. However, there were quite

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Speaker 3: a few deviations from the original which we anticipated, which

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Speaker 2: Which can be okay.

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Speaker 3: Well, but modernizing a tale is admirable. But it's tricky,

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Speaker 3: and I think that movie we just saw proved just

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Speaker 3: how tricky it can be.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into some details, obviously, we're going

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Speaker 1: to hear, but your first your initial feeling or impression

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Speaker 1: of the movie. Not a full review, but just what

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Speaker 1: would you your first impression? After all we heard about

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Speaker 1: what it was going to be and then finally see it,

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Speaker 1: what would you say? You in pressure was?

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Speaker 3: I hate to say this. I was disappointed.

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Speaker 2: You're disappointed?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had lowered expectations even but you know, I

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Speaker 3: love I love animated film. I love a film that

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Speaker 3: has singing in it. I love it. It doesn't bother

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Speaker 3: me at all when people break out into song and you.

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Speaker 2: Like fantasy and romance.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm age like you know, Tangled is my care

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Speaker 3: And they did try to. And I saw elements of

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Speaker 3: Tangled in here, but without the wit, without the humor,

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Speaker 3: without the snarkiness. And that's what this was missing. It

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Speaker 3: tried so hard to have heart, it tried so hard

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Speaker 3: to have purpose, it tried so hard to bewoke that

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Speaker 3: it missed so much of what I love a lot

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Speaker 3: of times about some of these Disney movies, even when

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Speaker 3: which I love, but not too much of. You got

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Speaker 3: it with some humor. You got to do it with

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Speaker 3: came off well flat and honestly disappointing. I was just disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember a single part in the movie where

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Speaker 2: I laughed.

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Speaker 3: I was laughing at it, not with it.

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Speaker 1: Don't think of a line. I mean, Dopey did some

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Speaker 1: funny stuff, but just as far as the dialogue goes,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't there. My first impression coming out.

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Speaker 2: Of it was.

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Speaker 1: That those terrible reviews didn't come from nowhere exactly. I

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Speaker 1: and because of the controversy, and they're not giving it

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Speaker 1: a fair chance. And I walked down and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: that the complaints are legit about the movie. And we did.

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Speaker 2: We desperately wanted to like this movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we even said on the morning run today, we

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Speaker 3: looked and saw that the Rotten Tomato score was like

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Speaker 3: I have absolutely cited more often with the audience score

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Speaker 3: get I get why people have not regarded this film

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Speaker 3: the way maybe even they had helped do. I think everyone.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm presuming here, but I think most of us

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Speaker 3: that it wanted to be modernized, could forget the noise,

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Speaker 3: forget the controversy. I can put that aside. This is

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Speaker 1: So folks who already had an inclination to not like

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Speaker 1: We were looking for ways, and we, to be quite honest,

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Speaker 1: trying to find things to say to be complimentary, and

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Speaker 1: there's plenty to compliment obviously from the look, from the

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Speaker 1: singing from the talent. Yes, that's throughout again, it's Disney,

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Speaker 1: the Disney movie. You know it's gonna look a certain way,

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Speaker 1: like Disney magic that were used to having, at least

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Speaker 1: it's mom.

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Speaker 2: Doom doom, doom, doom, doom.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fireworks and you see the castle.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you just kind of you just kind of get emotional, like, ah, right,

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Speaker 2: That was the most magical moment in the theater today?

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Speaker 2: Was that open?

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Speaker 3: Something you said to me we were talking about it

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Speaker 3: when we first came out, and you said, it wasn't magical.

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Speaker 3: It didn't feel magical, and that is what we have

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Speaker 3: it may seem. In nineteen thirty seven was a fairy tale,

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Speaker 3: fairy tale. It was fantasy, it wasn't reality. And I

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Speaker 3: think when sometimes we try, with the best of intentions

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Speaker 3: the fan to see, we lose the fairy tale. So

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Speaker 3: in the retelling, it's got to be so hard to

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Speaker 3: yet modern. And I just I've said this before and

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Speaker 3: they did. Let me just say, I was actually a

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Speaker 3: is it wrong to dream of prince Charming? I think

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Speaker 3: it's like you go too far in one direction where

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Speaker 3: somehow it's not okay to be the girl who dreams

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Speaker 2: So is that so stick with that?

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 1: Should we not have fantasy or fairy tale. Should we

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Speaker 1: any movie that essentially presents a woman, a young woman

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Speaker 1: we not do that? Because I said the magic was gone.

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Speaker 1: But a part of this movie is the fantasy that

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Speaker 1: this will never happen. Some dude on a white horse

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Speaker 1: It's just fantasy. Can we not have it?

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Speaker 3: But I just think it's okay to have that and

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Speaker 3: we have enough other modern stories that I don't think

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Speaker 3: be a mom. And that's a really important, big role,

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Speaker 3: and we I don't need to have all the other

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Speaker 3: to do everything. Like I think it's great to have

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Speaker 2: So they did.

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Speaker 1: They did in this retelling, and that's what they call it,

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Speaker 1: right retelling. There was not a moment even when her

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Speaker 2: I guess I was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were just watching and again we have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what probably, That's what I would do. So

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Speaker 3: it's like, you know it, Sometimes I feel like it's

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Speaker 3: it's okay to be afraid. It's okay to it's okay

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Speaker 3: strength means you don't want the guy. Strength means you

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Speaker 3: but we don't need to go so far that it

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Speaker 3: or to want the guy. That's where I have a problem.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it felt like lip service. It didn't

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel like there was an authentic story necessarily

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Speaker 1: It was just a ligne here or line there, kind

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Speaker 1: Says yes, that is sohow so much of the movie

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Speaker 3: And you just nailed it. Here was another thing that

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Speaker 3: you pointed out. There's so many things to get to,

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Speaker 3: the end to act as though mirror mirror on the wall,

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Speaker 3: who's the fairest of them all? That it really was

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Speaker 3: about inner beauty and not outward beauty. And Okay, I understand,

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Speaker 3: point of the film, which was that the evil stepmother,

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Speaker 3: the Evil Queen was jealous of snow White's physical beauty.

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Speaker 3: So I just that was also to me a little

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Speaker 3: saying we could have done that better, it's not a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll all learn something from maybe next time

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Speaker 2: I think that's all right.

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Speaker 1: And again I would just want to give them because

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Speaker 1: Gal Gadot does one. I've never met Rachel Zeckler, but

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Speaker 2: It's already been maligning. We give our.

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Speaker 1: Impressions here, but just the work the beauty of it.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Disney, it just didn't feel like Disney.

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Speaker 3: That's true. It's a good way to put it. Well,

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Speaker 3: we want to thank you for listening to this episode

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Speaker 3: of Amy and tj. I hope you have a wonderful

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Speaker 3: day everyone, and we'll see you next time.

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