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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast O. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We have got heavy of stories to dive into, including

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Speaker 1: State of Kentucky has picked a nominee to run this

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Speaker 1: November against Andy Basheer, the Democrat governor who's been one

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Speaker 1: of the worst governors on COVID in the entire country.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Cameron wins big. We will see whether Daniel Cameron

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Speaker 1: can take down Andy Basheer. We may talk to Daniel

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Speaker 1: Cameron today, but we begin Buck with what I think

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Speaker 1: is probably the most consequential aspect of media as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to the upcoming twenty twenty four election, and that

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Speaker 1: is we all know that there was a big tech

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Speaker 1: rig job in effect to help drag Joe Biden across

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Speaker 1: the finish line. That you don't even have to be

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Speaker 1: a died in the wool Republican or even a Trump

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Speaker 1: voter to look at the basic facts and say Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: every single big tech platform with any kind of substantial

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Speaker 1: audience was all pulling in the direction of Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: To be elected, and they were willing to do whatever

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Speaker 1: they could on their platforms to help to make that happen,

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Speaker 1: including certainly keeping the Hunter Biden story from ever seeing

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Speaker 1: the light of day. One reason that we have talked

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Speaker 1: so much about Elon Musk buying Twitter is because it

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Speaker 1: changes the game just in terms of having someone who

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Speaker 1: is willing to allow natural, honest conversations to take place

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Now, I'm not saying that everything Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: has done is perfect. I'm not even saying that there's

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Speaker 1: going to be a great business there or that somehow

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Speaker 1: Twitter is going to flourish with Elon Musk in control.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at what Elon Musk is saying,

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Speaker 1: and if you look at the basic outlines of what

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Speaker 1: exactly is going on, this becomes a pretty significant aspect

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Speaker 1: of counter intel in many ways. And I want to

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Speaker 1: play many of these sound bites from an interview that

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk did yesterday with CNBC, and I want to

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Speaker 1: start with the most consequential I think, which is him

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Speaker 1: directly saying on CNBC that the suppression of the Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden laptop story is election interference. And I want to

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Speaker 1: play this audio for you because unless I am wrong,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't think I am I don't

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Speaker 1: believe any big tech executive has ever publicly acknowledged the

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Speaker 1: suppression of Hunter Biden was election interference. We hear all

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Speaker 1: the time about the sanctity of elections in this country.

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Speaker 1: We know what the FBI is doing, We know what

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is doing. We know all of

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Speaker 1: the cheating that is going on with Joe Biden's administration,

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Speaker 1: both to be elected in twenty twenty and potentially to

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Speaker 1: be re elected in twenty twenty four. Elon Musk's purchase

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Speaker 1: of Twitter is the most clarion sound so far that

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Speaker 1: we may have some fairness in big tech stories, but

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Speaker 1: here is Elon Musk directly saying on CNBC this was

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Speaker 1: suppression and it was election interference, and this is super

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Speaker 1: important to have a big tech executive saying, listen.

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Speaker 2: You do some tweets that seem to be or at

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Speaker 2: least give support to some who would call others conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, but I mean honestly, you know some of

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Speaker 3: these conspiracy theories have turned out.

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Speaker 2: To be true.

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Speaker 3: Which ones, well, like the Hunter Biden laptop that's true.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, so you.

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Speaker 3: Know that was a pretty big deal.

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Speaker 4: There was Twitter and others.

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Speaker 3: Engagement, active pression of the information that was relevant to

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Speaker 3: the public. That's a terrible thing that happened.

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Speaker 4: That's like for interference. It is election interference. Yes, and

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Speaker 4: the problem that we now are are facing and I

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Speaker 4: think everyone needs to understand there was a phrase that

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Speaker 4: was being used a bit more on the right recently

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Speaker 4: and then it kind of fell out of favor. You know,

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Speaker 4: do you know what time it is? And to know

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Speaker 4: what time it is right now is to understand that

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Speaker 4: the people who were pushing the craziest stuff over COVID,

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Speaker 4: the people who push the Hunter Biden laptop lie the

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Speaker 4: fifty one intelligent former intelligence officers and really intelligence agency heads,

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Speaker 4: most of them are a lot of them. The people

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Speaker 4: who have done so many of these things, Clay, they

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Speaker 4: don't care that they were wrong, right, There is no

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Speaker 4: integrity to protect, there is no honor that they seek

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Speaker 4: to regain. It was useful to them in the moment.

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Speaker 4: They would do it again. And you see that with

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Speaker 4: the Durham report that just dropped. There's really no there's

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Speaker 4: it possible. The entirety of the Democrat commy media apparatus

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Speaker 4: and I'm sorry, and I won't do it again. No

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Speaker 4: one apologizes on the left for being wrong anymore, because

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Speaker 4: being right isn't the point. Being right isn't the purpose.

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Speaker 4: They have chosen to live by lies. And I think

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Speaker 4: everybody has to understand that's what time it is now,

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Speaker 4: this is what we are up against. And Elon knows

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Speaker 4: it and understands this as a threat really to not

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Speaker 4: just America, but Western civilization as we know it, the

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Speaker 4: notion of free speech and at least the freedom of

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Speaker 4: the press at some level. And we're entering a different phase.

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Speaker 4: We are a post journalism phase of America.

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Speaker 1: Now, what about the fact that all of those Pulitzer

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Speaker 1: Prizes are still outstanding and journalists are still bragging about

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Speaker 1: them associated with the Russia collusion. Why in an honest world,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you pay a lot of attention

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Speaker 1: to this, buck, but if they find out that you

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Speaker 1: cheated in baseball, right, they find out that you use steroids,

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Speaker 1: they won't vote you into the Hall of Fame because

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Speaker 1: they believe that the numbers upon which you posted your

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Speaker 1: career were based on a lie that you were using

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Speaker 1: of examples of this in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: talking about. Even Congress had hearings on this. Why are

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Speaker 1: there no consequences for the Pulitzer if you win a

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Speaker 1: Pulitzer Prize for a story that later is proven to

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Speaker 1: be a falsehood? Isn't the very basic element of the

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Speaker 1: And wouldn't you have to pull them if you cared

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Speaker 1: about that at all?

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Speaker 4: So this is what I'm getting at in terms of

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Speaker 4: the perception shift, and I know you see it. I

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Speaker 4: want everyone at home to understand that journalism now operates

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Speaker 4: like a country club where they're rejecting certain people, but

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Speaker 4: they'll never say why because they ultimately know, like you know,

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Speaker 4: we only want you know, certain people to join. And

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Speaker 4: it's that's now when you look at the Pulitzery, this

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Speaker 4: is an insider's club that is a bunch of activists.

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Speaker 4: They don't actually exist day in and day out to

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Speaker 4: provide people with the facts to speak, I mean to

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Speaker 4: speak truth to power as a joke. Right, These these

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Speaker 4: now and it was the same thing under the Obama administration.

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Speaker 4: They are the handmaidens of power. I mean, they are

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Speaker 4: people who go above and beyond to spread the propaganda

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Speaker 4: this is I think, at least Clay the clarifying moment

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Speaker 4: we're in. It's really good when someone like Elon comes

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Speaker 4: forward and says, uh, it's not about do we have

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Speaker 4: the clip by the way, we're talking about the clip

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Speaker 4: about money? I want to significant too. Yeah, I definitely

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Speaker 4: play it. So so Elon was pushed. I have a

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Speaker 4: couple things on this. One is journalists get so defensive

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Speaker 4: about Soros all the time, and I really mean this.

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Speaker 4: This is a foreign born billionaire who has decided to

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Speaker 4: make American cities more dangerous. More people have been you know, murdered, raped, mugged, assaulted,

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Speaker 4: robbed because of policies that no one ever even thought

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Speaker 4: to pursue. In the way that Soros has. And this

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Speaker 4: is a matter of public record. Journals that were always

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Speaker 4: why are you picking on Soros? And it's because I

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Speaker 4: think ultimately they have some affinity for Soros. And also

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Speaker 4: all the foundations that he funds, including things that are

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Speaker 4: just meant to attack people on the right. Soros money

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Speaker 4: does go to those entities and organizations. But beyond that,

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Speaker 4: Clay this notion that someone like Elon Musk might have

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Speaker 4: some greater purpose, might have something in mind beyond just

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Speaker 4: getting the chattering classes clinking their champagne glasses in order

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Speaker 4: to talk about how great he is. Here, here's Elon

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Speaker 4: when he's pushed by this CNBC journalist and he just says, says, look,

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Speaker 4: there's something more play four.

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Speaker 2: Do your tweets hurt the company? Are there Tesla owners

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Speaker 2: to say I don't agree with his political position because

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Speaker 2: and I know it because he shares so much of it.

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Speaker 2: Or are there advertisers on Twitter that Linda Yakarna will

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Speaker 2: come and say you gotta stop man, Or you know,

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Speaker 2: I can't get these ads because of some of the

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Speaker 2: things you tweet.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm reminded of as a seat in the

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Speaker 3: Princess Bride where he confronts the person who kills his

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Speaker 3: father and he says, offer me money, offer me power.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 4: See, you just don't care.

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Speaker 2: You want to share what you have to say.

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Speaker 3: I'll say what I want to say, And if if

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Speaker 3: the consequence of that is losing money, so be it.

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Speaker 4: You know, Clay I tweeted out in June of twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty one a thread that Rush read every word of

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Speaker 4: it on his show, So on these airwaves about how

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Speaker 4: if you're a billionaire in this country and you care

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Speaker 4: even just conservatism. Now there was a lag period. I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying Elon read that tweet, but the idea was there.

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Speaker 4: If people don't step up and start doing things, who

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Speaker 4: aren't worried about paying their bills, aren't worried about what

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Speaker 4: happens to the mortgage, the left wins. So Elon, this

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Speaker 4: is a rallying effect other people who are in positions

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Speaker 4: consequence to them other than the New York Times. Maybe

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Speaker 4: criticizing them. Other people may want to come forward and say,

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Speaker 4: you know what, gender transitions for twelve year old's not

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Speaker 4: a good idea. Turning our cities into high crime healthcapes

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Speaker 4: not a good idea. Using big tech to suppress certain

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Speaker 4: during an election not a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree, and that's why I was so so

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Speaker 1: happy to hear, joyous almost to hear that interview with

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk when he said that because we've been hammering

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Speaker 1: home the same thing. If you are fortunate enough to

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Speaker 1: listeners right now, what are you afraid of? That is

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Speaker 1: my question. I understand one hundred billion percent. If because

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Speaker 1: I've been there, If you have young kids and you're

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Speaker 1: and man, you really have to have your job in

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Speaker 1: ability to take care of your family is directly dictated

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Speaker 1: by what you make on a week to week basis,

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent understand why you may have strong opinions,

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Speaker 1: but you feel like you just got to bite your tongue.

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Speaker 1: But if you are worth twenty thirty forty million dollars

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Speaker 1: or more and you aren't willing to say exactly what

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Speaker 1: you think, what are you afraid of? And why are

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Speaker 1: you such a coward? And so for whether you agree

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Speaker 1: or disagree with Elon Musk, I mean I think he

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Speaker 1: would ignorege Hey at forty four billion dollars, I overpaid

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Speaker 1: for Twitter. But Elon Musk is a long horizon guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he wants to put people on Mars and

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Klay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you remember back in October of twenty twenty, that

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Speaker 5: Listen, the biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign.

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Speaker 1: There's no real evidence of that.

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Speaker 7: They spied on my campaign.

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Speaker 4: They got caught.

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Speaker 7: No, and then they went much further than that, and

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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I don't know that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: she was doing job clay, Yeah, but this ever needs

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Speaker 1: It's such a good question because and this is letting

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Speaker 1: into the underlying data herself. And that's why I think

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk is so interesting, Buck, because you can't build

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Speaker 1: a brand new way to make a car, and you

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Speaker 1: certainly can't spend us can't send rockets to space better

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Speaker 1: than NASA without getting involved in the nitty gritty yourself

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Speaker 1: without being incredibly detail oriented. And a lot of these

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Speaker 1: journalists are not detail oriented people. They're big picture and

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Speaker 1: they just paarrot what everybody else says because they're secretly

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Speaker 1: afraid of being a little bit outside the lines and

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Speaker 1: bounds of what acceptable information is. And that is why

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Speaker 1: so many of you out they're listening to us right now,

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Speaker 1: I think have been read. Pilled is because you really

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Speaker 1: did start to you trusted that and you didn't pay

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Speaker 1: attention to it, and now you look behind the curtain

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Speaker 1: and you're like, man, there's not a lot of substance here.

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Speaker 1: They haven't done the work that I did.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's certainly there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: you know, the other part of this is there are

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Speaker 4: the demagogues, There are the go alogus, right, there are

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Speaker 4: the people who there are different roles even in the

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Speaker 4: commie democrat media that people play depending on you know,

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Speaker 4: are they a serious correspondent who's not really giving opinion

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Speaker 4: but actually is making lots of editorial decisions to support well,

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Speaker 4: you know, there's different roles, right, There's like a big

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Speaker 4: team where they have different roles. But someone like Leslie Stall,

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Speaker 4: her job is to reflect the sentiments and the political

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Speaker 4: feelings of the New York Times editorial page through a

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Speaker 4: TV prism on the sixty minutes show. Her job is

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Speaker 4: not to be knowledgeable. It's not to do the reading,

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Speaker 4: it's not to do the homework with your point, she's

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Speaker 4: not doing those things. She's not looking at the primary

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Speaker 4: source documents. But I don't even think that that's just

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Speaker 4: her being lazy or an oversight. Her job is the

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Speaker 4: talking points. Her job is to sit there and give this,

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Speaker 4: you know, this sort of Barbara Walters esque approach to

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, where it's all, you know, emotional connection and

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Speaker 4: seemingly to be the sound voice, the reasonable voice in

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Speaker 4: the room, and spewing wise in the process. I don't

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Speaker 4: even if she All she did was read the New

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Speaker 4: York Times front page. She had to know that there

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Speaker 4: was something funky going on with Trump, and just for everyone.

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Speaker 4: By way of quick review Clay, they used Faiza against

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Speaker 4: carter Page. Carter Page is like the I know carter

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Speaker 4: Page because of this whole situation. Carter Page, this is

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Speaker 4: kind of funny. Sat down next to me when I

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Speaker 4: was interviewing him. He's like, hey, you know that your

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Speaker 4: dad and I went to a like a Harvard Club

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Speaker 4: he was so nice to me. Like, like I sat

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Speaker 4: down to carter Page, I'm like, wait, you and my

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Speaker 4: dad knew each other from ten years ago. Carter Page

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Speaker 4: served the Navy. He's a super nice guy. He he

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Speaker 4: actually even had worked with the government to help the

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Speaker 4: government find people that were trying to, you know, leverage

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Speaker 4: contacts in this country for espionage purposes, and they miked

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Speaker 4: them up like they would some superspy and violated. Really

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Speaker 4: they can say, oh, it's legal because it's FISA. PISA

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Speaker 4: is not supposed to be used this way. It was abuse.

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Speaker 4: We all know it. And the probe now or the

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Speaker 4: Durham report makes it clear. I mean, these people acted

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Speaker 4: like psychopaths. No, no FBI agent could sit down, as

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Speaker 4: my point here, with Carter Page or George Papadopolis and

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Speaker 4: be like, yeah, this guy's a Putin puppet who's trying

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Speaker 4: to overthrow our democracy. Only emotionally destabilized eunuchs could actually

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Speaker 4: believe that. Unfortunate they were running the FBI.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this that's so well said about

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Speaker 1: like the lack of power that he had and the

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Speaker 1: idea that if Russia were going to create Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: a Manchurian candidate, they would be going through people like

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Speaker 1: Carter Page to do so. The people that are leslie

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Speaker 1: Stall to me, is just not smart, and worse than

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Speaker 1: not being smart, she's not intellectually curious. That's my take

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Speaker 1: on it. But but your point about the roles that

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Speaker 1: people play. The Jeff Zuckers of the world, are very smart,

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Speaker 1: and they sit up above the chessboard and decide what

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Speaker 1: pieces go where in for instance, the CNN universe, to

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Speaker 1: tell them, hey, these are the stories that we are

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Speaker 1: willing to cover. And the fact that there is such

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Speaker 1: a use the word cabal, and I think it's a

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Speaker 1: who are willing to take their marching orders as to

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Speaker 1: what the operable facts are. And by the way, there

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Speaker 1: are really smart people at sixty minutes who likely told

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Speaker 1: Leslie Stall, oh, that's totally made up. That's a far

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Speaker 1: right wing conspiracy. That's the way they try to dismiss things.

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Speaker 1: The distance between can far right wing conspiracy and the truth. Buck,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but it sure seems to

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Speaker 1: it seems like every year a couple of months are

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Speaker 4: Totally agree. Well, let's take some of your calls on

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Speaker 4: And welcome back to Clay and coming up in a

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Speaker 4: few minutes. Our friend Julio Rosas you may recall, last week,

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Speaker 4: we had a little bit of phone trouble, but he

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Speaker 4: called in from the border to tell us about how

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Speaker 4: it's just basically wide open.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 4: He's done a lot of reporting not just from the

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Speaker 4: border though, but also from the front lines of the

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Speaker 4: Democrat shock troops known as Antifa, and he was at

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Speaker 4: a hearing up on the up on Capitol Hill House

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Speaker 4: hearing on Antifa, and he got a lot of condescension

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Speaker 4: from a particularly smug and useless member of Congress Democrat

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Speaker 4: of course, and gave it right back to him. And

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Speaker 4: I want to let you hear that. But that's going

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Speaker 4: to come up in a few minutes. And also Clay's

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Speaker 4: got more for us coming up in the third hour.

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Speaker 4: Were talking I don't talk a little debt ceiling. I

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Speaker 4: guess I put out a poll. Most people say they

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Speaker 4: just they know it's just going to get solved and

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Speaker 4: they don't really care. It's a lot of posturing. But

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Speaker 4: we'll update everybody. Let's we will update everybody, Boddy on

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Speaker 4: what's going on with the debt ceiling. But first we

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Speaker 4: got a lot of calls and we wanted to get

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Speaker 4: to some of your thoughts. Uh, Alan in Fisher's Indiana,

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Speaker 4: what's going on? Alan?

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Speaker 7: Hey, Beck, I'm with you one hundred percent on I

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Speaker 7: think you're dead right on that the that the left

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Speaker 7: doesn't care about the truth. They're they're there to further

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Speaker 7: the agenda, create the narratives. If Leslie, I find it

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Speaker 7: hard to believe that Leslie Stall where she is in

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Speaker 7: the journalism hierarchy didn't have some idea of the details

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Speaker 7: of what was going on with all the smearing of.

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Speaker 1: Trus But I appreciate that. I don't. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: have a lot maybe again, I used to be more

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Speaker 1: like the caller Buck.

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Speaker 4: And Clay, by the way, because I like it, you

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Speaker 4: agree to be go ahead? No, No, I used to.

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Speaker 1: Believe more like the caller, Hey, these people are really smart,

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Speaker 1: you know, like there. When I have worked in media,

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Speaker 1: I have found that so many people are so intellectually

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Speaker 1: lazy and not curious that they don't look beyond the

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Speaker 1: first page of whatever briefing book they're getting. They don't

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Speaker 1: do the homework. Leslie, I think, Leslie, you think Leslie

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Speaker 1: stall knew that Trump's campaign had been spied on and just.

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Speaker 4: And she made the political and career decision. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'd put it to you, by the way, So Alan

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. Clay does not agree with you,

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Speaker 4: But Allan, I think you are a patriot and a genius.

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Speaker 4: So thank you for calling in. I look, I'll say this,

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Speaker 4: look at the career trajectories. With the exception of a

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Speaker 4: couple of lunatics at CNN who were problems apart from

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Speaker 4: the Russia collusion thing, the career trajectories of every Democrat

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Speaker 4: in the media and every deep state Democrat inside of

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Speaker 4: the federal government became more lucrative and more famous after

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Speaker 4: they went along with the whole lot. So all the

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Speaker 4: incentives they knew this, right, all the incentives are aligned

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Speaker 4: with I mean, Jim Acosta became a household they have

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Speaker 4: Jim Acosta's a this is a clown.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right one hundred percent about that. I

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Speaker 1: think that following the herd, though oftentimes means you never

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Speaker 1: actually look and see why you're following the herd. So

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Speaker 1: I I really think Leslie Stall, if we had Leslie

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Speaker 1: Stall on the show, this would be a good experiment.

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Speaker 1: If we had Leslie Stall on the show for an

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Speaker 1: hour and we, for instance, went through COVID data with her,

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Speaker 1: I think she would know none of it. She would

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Speaker 1: just have taken Fauci's talking points as part of being

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Speaker 1: a good person.

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Speaker 4: So I'll put it's interesting because you're okay, if I may,

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Speaker 4: then maybe maybe I'm transgressing my knowledge a little bit here.

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Speaker 4: You dealt with people in the sports world on the

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Speaker 4: left who I think, you know, especially with the politics stuff,

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Speaker 4: they had no idea what was going on, right, That

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Speaker 4: is true. I've you know, you were bad from CNN

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Speaker 4: to be fair, to be fair, you were bad from CNN.

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Speaker 4: And he's to be still hilarious, still hilarious in a

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Speaker 4: moment of true pride. I'm telling you, and everyone who

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Speaker 4: knows me knows that I like to call out Van

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Speaker 4: Jones is smart. Jake Tapper is smart. These guys are

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you go to the there are

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Speaker 4: a number of people over there in that Chris Cuomo

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Speaker 4: is you know, he comes across as very very kind

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Speaker 4: of bro guy. He's he's actually pretty sharp when he

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Speaker 4: wants to be. I'm I these people knew, you know,

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Speaker 4: these these different people out there knew on the left

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Speaker 4: what they were doing, and they they made I think

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Speaker 4: they made it. A lot of them made a choice.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of them made a choice. You think

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Speaker 4: that they just had no idea and they don't care.

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Speaker 1: If you're right, It's made way worse than what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm attributing it to not being that smart or intellectually

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Speaker 1: curious and just not doing the homework to actually know

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Speaker 1: the larger community. You have all these pas, all these

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Speaker 1: production assistants that put stuff in front of you, and

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Speaker 1: you just take the talking points and run with them,

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Speaker 1: not out of a desire to intentionally mislead, but because

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Speaker 1: you're being played. Your your take is far more devious

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Speaker 1: and far more destructive of the country than my just

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Speaker 1: intellectually lazy.

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Speaker 4: But that would kind of line up right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I'm just saying Leslie stall Is is truly

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Speaker 1: an imbecile.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't say that. You know, I know who the

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Speaker 4: slick operatives on the left are. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: I would put her in that category. So for me,

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Speaker 4: she's borderline. But I'm just saying there are definitely people

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Speaker 4: on the left who I know all the source material

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Speaker 4: and they don't care.

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Speaker 1: The Jeff Zuckers of the world are totally geniuses.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: He told me he is not an unintelligent person. But

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Speaker 1: Leslie stall I feel like not a very smart person.

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Speaker 1: She may really not know the stuff that she's saying.

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Speaker 1: She's just parroting talking points.

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Speaker 4: John in North Carolina. I wanted to get you in

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Speaker 4: here before we close up the hour. What's up, John? John?

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Speaker 4: Going once? Okay, John, we can't even get to going twice.

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Speaker 4: You're not talking to it all right?

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Speaker 1: Well, what he wanted to say, Buck was nothing's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen with regards to the Durham Report, So why do

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Speaker 1: we even talk about it.

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Speaker 4: It's a great question, and it's what I've been saying

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Speaker 4: all along. I was saying this about the Bengazi hearings too.

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Speaker 4: If you don't have the political power and the will

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Speaker 4: to use it. All this other stuff is essentially feels

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Speaker 4: a bit like noise. I do think it's important to

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Speaker 4: get on the record, and that's what this is. What

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Speaker 4: a fraud they perpetrated, beyond any reasonable doubt. The Democrats

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Speaker 4: perpetrated a fraud, a soft coup against Trump. But if

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Speaker 4: you're looking for justice, oh, this is not justice. You

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Speaker 4: need to have political power to get Justine. In my mind,

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Speaker 4: John's a great question. I think that there are still

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Speaker 4: persuadable people. And some of you may be laughing at

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Speaker 4: me and think that I'm an idiot like Leslie stall Is,

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Speaker 4: but I really genuinely believe that there are people who

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Speaker 4: can be convinced to do the right thing when it

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Speaker 4: comes to their votes.

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Speaker 7: That's why