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Speaker 1: We had such a great tour this year.

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Speaker 2: Let's name some of the places we went.

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Speaker 2: But this year we did.

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Speaker 1: Portland, Seattle, Vegas, Sacramentos, Phoenix and yes, Phoenix, Austin, Columbus, Columbus,

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Speaker 5: It was one of Woman's best shows and one of

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Speaker 1: It's so hard to pick because, like writer said, they're

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Speaker 1: Right, I know, we're just finishing season six. As a

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Meets World.

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Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Fishl, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Rather strong, and I'm wilfredell.

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Speaker 1: Well. The night Sweats can finally be put to rest

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Speaker 1: for now. A shaky and stressful Season six is behind us,

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Speaker 4: Know are recognized but well written, well acted, like okay

444
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: on its own, good episode, but who are these people?

445
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: I got that a lot more this season than ever before.

446
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: And I also got a lot of really again going

447
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: back to Topanga episodes that should have been to Panga

448
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: focused that weren't like how you have the teacher episode

449
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 4: where Fred comes in and the one time she tries

450
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 4: to speak and to defend herself Dean Boland or the

451
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 4: other woman in the room goes, okay, shut your mouth

452
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 4: to Panga, and it's like, wait what Yeah, So we

453
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 4: had that whole conversation.

454
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 9: We were like, there are so many storylines this season

455
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 9: that should have been just that this should have been

456
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 9: to Panga season Yeah, And in our mind it's like,

457
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 9: you have the engagement, harassment, Yale, her parents' divorce, Like

458
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 9: there's so much there that it's like, what with this season?

459
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 9: We actually it's part of our questions, what do you

460
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 9: think season six would have looked like?

461
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 8: If it was from Topanga's perspective, it would have been great.

462
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 3: You can actually have kept all of the same elements, right,

463
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: but just had it be about her doubts and her

464
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: feelings and her Yeah.

465
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 4: That's that would be incredible. Okay, I'm sorry, but now

466
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm off on a thing. Has there ever been a

467
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 4: television show, especially a sitcom, done where every season is

468
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 4: done from a different character's point of view?

469
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: Has that ever been done? Didn't well?

470
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 7: Storm out?

471
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 8: There are some sitcoms where, like our shows, where a

472
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 8: lead will depart and they'll refocus on a different character.

473
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 8: But in terms of yeah, but in terms of like

474
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 8: season to season, I don't think so nothing's coming to

475
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 8: me my idea, No boy.

476
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: Meets World kind of did it?

477
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, season one was definitely all

478
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: about Corey Corey. Season two was Eric's season or Sean's

479
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: did start more.

480
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: Sean more Sean? Season three was Eric I.

481
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: Season three is Eric okay? And then season four what

482
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: that was a Shawn and Eric. Season four was split

483
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: between the two of you.

484
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah there, but again, it was really interesting

485
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 4: if there the season was from Tepanga's point of view,

486
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: because this.

487
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: Would have been the perfect season to do it. Yeah,

488
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: and every chance they had they didn't.

489
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 6: I was thinking this morning just about how unfocused the

490
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 6: season felt for me, or like I'm, you know, not unified,

491
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 6: and then I have to remember and I just I

492
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 6: think we all kind.

493
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: Of take for granted that Corey and to Banga end

494
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: up together, because.

495
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 6: Because we're looking back, the reality is this whole season

496
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 6: started with they're gonna get married and then spent two

497
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 6: episodes saying not yet, not yet, not yet, And we

498
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 6: sort of wrote that office like, well, of course you

499
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 6: could wait and just be engaged. But at the time

500
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 6: when this was airing live, that is a big question

501
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 6: and it was kind of like two eighteen year olds,

502
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 6: who are they're going.

503
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: To get married? That's crazy? And I think probably.

504
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 6: At the time our writers thought that that was more

505
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 6: of an organizing principle than it actually is, do you

506
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Like that was enough of a

507
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 6: suspenseful question to pull you through, whereas now we look

508
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 6: at it and the suspense isn't there, so we're just like,

509
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 6: why is she not want to get married?

510
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: Why does he want one?

511
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 6: You know, like from episode app But overall, I bet

512
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 6: at the time it did feel a little like a

513
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 6: high wire act of like are they really going to

514
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 6: have these characters get married?

515
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 3: Can these characters get married?

516
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 8: Is that?

517
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: Okay?

518
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 6: That was a question that was hanging over the whole

519
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 6: show that we just don't have hanging over now, so

520
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 6: we don't feel any of that tension.

521
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: So the whole season feels a little random, a little

522
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 3: like less organized. But actually that would have been a

523
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 3: thread pulling us through.

524
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 4: I think, you know, will wait, I have a question

525
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 4: was was the poll that they did on the internet

526
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: was that between five and six or six and seven?

527
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 4: I think six and seven, six and seven, So it

528
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 4: wasn't she proposed? And then they put the poll out,

529
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: and so it started with him say, I.

530
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: Think they were still asked at the end of the season.

531
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 6: That's why they introduced to Panga's I think the question is, oh, gosh, should.

532
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 3: They get married? Yeah, just not even will they, won't they?

533
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 3: Should they? Or shouldn't they.

534
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 6: It's almost like our writers were asking the audience, which

535
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 6: they did with the poll, like do you think this

536
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 6: is a good idea?

537
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 3: Like should they?

538
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 8: You know?

539
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: And of course now I can look at him and

540
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: be like, no, don't know. They just run away from that, dude.

541
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 8: But you know, part of the reason I feel like

542
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 8: that's unsuccessful is because the motivations for why they are

543
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 8: questioning marriage are so ambiguous and kind of shift back

544
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 8: and forth from episode the episode, depending which is generic, right,

545
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 8: It's just generic, and it doesn't actually get at any

546
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 8: of the true issues, which is to Panga is is

547
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 8: my should I be exploring other things other than Corey?

548
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 8: Like that should be something that should be coming up

549
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 8: consistently throughout the season. Yet we constantly see Corey, who

550
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 8: has known since he was two years old he wants

551
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 8: to marry to Panga, question whether or not this is

552
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 8: the right move for him, and it just doesn't make

553
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 8: any sense to kind of, uh, you know, create that

554
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 8: tension that you're speaking to writer.

555
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, I think in a lot of

556
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: ways you you both are.

557
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 9: All of you talked about like how the storylines could

558
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 9: have changed a little bit to give us more of

559
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 9: that connected thread.

560
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 7: Like the season finale States.

561
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 9: Of the Union, I forgot which one of you said it,

562
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 9: but we came up with the exact same ending, which

563
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 9: to me, if we came up with the exact same

564
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 9: ending means it's there, which is you're in the kitchen,

565
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 9: it's the two of them, they decide do we want

566
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 9: to do this? The phone rings, yeah, and you never

567
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 9: get an answer like hey, do you want this state

568
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 9: or not?

569
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 7: End of season Like we came up with the exact

570
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 7: same ending, we were like, oh, that's the case.

571
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 9: Then that means it's in the air, but it just

572
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 9: wasn't executed the same thing I would say for you're married,

573
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 9: You're dead. We were like in that episode, Corey is like,

574
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 9: you know, wants to go out with the guys, and

575
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 9: he's like, I I would I should be wearing my

576
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 9: engagement ring. And at the end of it he's like,

577
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 9: I am man, I do what I want and I'm unapologetic.

578
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 9: It's like, but you should still go out with the guys.

579
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 9: Like if the question is, hey, can I have friendships

580
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 9: in my relationship with Sean and still be married, the

581
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 9: answers should be.

582
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, okay, And that lets you know, like this

583
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 7: whole season.

584
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 9: Should be Corey actually becoming more comfortable with getting married

585
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 9: while Topanga becomes less comfortable with getting married.

586
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: And then that's if that's a season long arc and

587
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: we go on that journey.

588
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 9: All the pieces are there. Every episode just needed to

589
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 9: be tweaked a little bit to get us there.

590
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: I also think this season, more than any other, we

591
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: would come to find out and I bet you we

592
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: will come to find out with the more people we

593
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: talked to that the politics of the network really played

594
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: in to how the season ended, because not only were

595
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: we really on the bubble, but the all of TGIF

596
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: was on the bubble. We didn't know if Sabrina was staying,

597
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: if Sabrina was leaving, what shows were going to be

598
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 4: picked up, what weren't They were canceling, they were moving

599
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: things around, and so when we finally got the word

600
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: that we got picked up for season seven, we only

601
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: got picked up for thirteen, So originally we were not

602
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: picked up for the entire season, and it wasn't until

603
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: we were ten episodes into season seven that they picked

604
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: us up for our back. So I wonder how much

605
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: of the politics going on at ABC really dictated you know, Okay,

606
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: well we'll end with a wedding.

607
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: It's going to be Feenie's wedding, so if you know

608
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: that doesn't work out well.

609
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 4: But Michael was also probably like, we need to end

610
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: on the cliffhanger because we need them to bring us back.

611
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 6: So that's what I was wondering, to your point, is

612
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 6: like how much Michael was struggling against the network politics

613
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 6: because they were probably saying.

614
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: To him, you're really going to have these these kids

615
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: get married.

616
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 6: That's irresponsible, and Michael was probably saying, no, it's the

617
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 6: most responsible thing to do.

618
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: Let's explore it. And then he had to keep writing

619
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: episodes that showed he was exploring the problems of getting

620
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: married or for these kids to get married.

621
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 6: But I feel like those problems weren't true to the

622
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 6: characters right, like they were not. The anxieties were just

623
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 6: let's illustrate different anxieties, and that was probably to address

624
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 6: network notes that were like, really, you're going to do this,

625
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 6: and he's like, yeah, yeah, we'll explore it.

626
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: We'll show all the different problems. And it's like, but

627
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: those problems weren't based in Topanga and Quarry. Like by

628
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: the end of season six or five, we know Cory

629
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: and Topanga, we know what problems they would have going

630
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: into this, and they're not illustrated in this season.

631
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 8: No, absolutely, well, especially when you completely change who Corey

632
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 8: and Tapanga seemingly are for the whole season. You know,

633
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 8: we kind of had this conversation about codependency and the

634
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 8: role that it plays in the season specifically, like for example,

635
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 8: with Jack, who we felt like we got really close

636
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 8: to having some really meaningful moments with Jack, but you know,

637
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 8: when Jack is at the point where he is, you know,

638
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 8: really grieving, check the most is when he is immediately

639
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 8: thrusted into a relationship with Rachel, never to speak about

640
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 8: his grief again. And you know, the show, I think

641
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 8: continuously uses relationships as a distraction and from dealing in

642
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 8: processing with real trauma and grief. We see that with

643
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 8: Corey and the Nick you as well, and it's just

644
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 8: one of those things where it feels like the show

645
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 8: is intentionally trying to say that, you know, romantic relationships

646
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 8: are the cure for all of life's problems that you

647
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 8: should have, and when Sean tries to explore life without

648
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 8: a romantic interest, it falls to right, right, ye, right.

649
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: Well.

650
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 6: Will brought this up early on in the season. You know,

651
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 6: he was like, the problem Sean's problem is that he's single,

652
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 6: you know, or that he doesn't want to commit to

653
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 6: a relationship, and that makes him a bad person, you know,

654
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 6: or a failed person.

655
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: And I do think that that's the value system.

656
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: And it goes back to you know, Jack is grieving

657
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: and he has a Matt has this great scene where

658
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: he finds you know, that whole episode he's like the

659
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: pillar and he's strong and he's there for everybody, and

660
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: then he breaks down in that wonderful scene and it

661
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: might be Matt's best acting of I haven't seen season

662
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 4: seven yet, but certainly, to date, I thought Matt. There

663
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: were several times where Matt killed it this season, and

664
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: this was kind of the pinnacle for me. And then

665
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: what saved him making out with Maitland. So the kiss,

666
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: once again is the magical and sourcible kiss. Where you

667
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: that's it, you make out and now hey, everything's good.

668
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: So they did it again. They just did it in

669
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: a much now with drama as opposed to comedy. On

670
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: season six they did the same power of the kiss.

671
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's the whole thing was And they didn't

672
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: do anything with with Rachel's character, I mean just kind

673
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 4: of anything.

674
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 7: All season.

675
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: People really talked about her, right.

676
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 9: She how David Brownfeld said, like they he admitted they

677
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 9: didn't know what to do with Jack and Rachel.

678
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 7: I think, like it's obvious.

679
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 9: You can see in the episodes, Daniel, you looked like

680
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 9: you were about to say something.

681
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: No.

682
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about how we were talking about

683
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: the Jack and Rachel.

684
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Of it all, and how Will brought up that point

685
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: where he said, why would they bring in another character

686
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: that's clearly about giving Eric more friends and then completely

687
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: alienate him from them?

688
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: And that was a really good point.

689
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: And the only thing we can figure is because they

690
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: were setting it up for the spinoff in case either

691
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: Ben didn't come back for season seven or for in

692
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: case the show didn't get picked up and they wanted

693
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: to focus on a spinoff starring Will. But like they

694
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: really brought in a characters that could have really set

695
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: up up great comedy and then removed him from the house.

696
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it had to have been that they were spinning

697
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: me off. They brought in more people to give Eric

698
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: more to lose. Yeah, so now he's lost his family,

699
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: Now he's lost his friends, now he's lost the girl.

700
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 4: So when he does get in the car and drive

701
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 4: away at the end, which is what was supposed to happen,

702
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: it's more justified. Yeah, that's all we could think.

703
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 9: So great that you brought this up, because I think

704
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 9: we've talked to you about this before. But there's a

705
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 9: creator called t one Jay who created an entire theory

706
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 9: that the season that broke Eric is what he calls

707
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 9: six Okay, this idea that every like Eric is never

708
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 9: the same. Specifically, after the Tommy episode, Eric kind of

709
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 9: like cracks and you only get goofy Eric from this

710
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 9: point on, and it's like, no, this man is having

711
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 9: a mental breakdown, like he's been ignored by his family. Yeah,

712
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 9: he is isolated in all these different ways. And you're right,

713
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 9: like knowing now that they were supposed to spin off,

714
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 9: who knows what that could have looked like. Since it

715
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 9: doesn't spin off all, we get all we are left with.

716
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 9: It's like this broken character. What do you think, like

717
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 9: about what happens to Eric in this.

718
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's it's one hundred percent true.

719
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: It's it's one of those things where they they set

720
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: it up to where he's betrayed by betrayed quote unquote,

721
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: he's not, he's just but his best friend and the

722
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: girl now he loves apparently, you know, go behind his

723
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: back to have some sort of a relationship. He's not

724
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 4: really talking to his brother anymore. Phoene's gotten married. He

725
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 4: doesn't have her, he doesn't have Tommy parents kick him out.

726
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: They have a new baby. He is he's ay.

727
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: They set him up to be alone on an island,

728
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: specifically to have him leave, and then they don't have

729
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: him leave.

730
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 6: Do you know what the show would have been? Did

731
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 6: you ever talk about like where Eric was gonna live,

732
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 6: what was gonna be Eric.

733
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 4: Was gonna go get so that I remember Michael already

734
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: had the whole opening title sequence, which is Eric driving

735
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 4: like a zombie hitting the Santa Monica peer and the

736
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: car launches off the end of the pier and sticks

737
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: into the sand. The door opens, Eric rolls out and

738
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: continues walking into the ocean, and that's the opening title sequence.

739
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: And then Eric in Las. Eric's in Los Angeles. Then

740
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: he meets a whole new group of friends. He lives

741
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: in LA.

742
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 4: He would get a job in Los Angeles, maybe decide

743
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: it essentially sounds like Joey Comedy.

744
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: Yes, show is a full sitcom.

745
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: It sounds it sounds like how they spun off matt

746
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 4: LeBlanc and Friends was going to be a kind of

747
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 4: what it is.

748
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: Meet a whole new group of friends. Eric, you know,

749
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: so he's like a fish out of water. He's a

750
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: fish out of water in LA.

751
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: And you know, Michael would always rider you and I

752
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: just talked about this off Mike, where Michael would always

753
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 4: talk about how you take the wacky character and you

754
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: make them the star of the show. Is what they

755
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 4: did in Fraser, where Fraser was the wacky character on Cheers,

756
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: but when you bring in Niles, it pushes Fraser the middle.

757
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 4: So if you take Eric to LA and you give

758
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: him somebody even more wacky, Eric becomes the star of

759
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: the show and becomes the Cory because he's then in

760
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: the middle. And I think that's what they were planning.

761
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: He was going to meet a girl he was gonna

762
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: you know, was to be would probably be.

763
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 6: A commentary on like LA jokes at LA stereotypes. So

764
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 6: I'm sure Eric would have been like the more normal,

765
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 6: what these service starters? This is crazy, these acts are.

766
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: Insane, right, that would have been so I mean, we

767
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: pitched several times to ABC. It looked like it was

768
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: going to be I think I think it was Lloyd

769
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: Braun at the time who was running ABC, and we

770
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: you know, we were in the room a couple times

771
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: and Michael pitched it and then I just it was

772
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: one of those things where I just never heard about

773
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 4: it again. Well it wasn't like I got a call.

774
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 4: Hey they decided not to pick it up. Hey, they decided.

775
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 6: I just can never imagine Boy Meets World, I mean

776
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 6: without Eric, like something like we would just lose so

777
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 6: much commedy, like so much energy, so much like like

778
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 6: at this point, you're holding up the entire half of

779
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 6: the show with just your acting, chops, because it's not

780
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 6: in the writing, it's your performance that's literally holding up

781
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: the entire like half, like half of the show. It's

782
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 6: crazy to me like that that they were even consider

783
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 6: that and thinking that that would be okay, Like I

784
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 6: bet you that was why they didn't do it.

785
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: They were like, no, we need maybe we cannot, like

786
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: BOYD won't survive.

787
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think TGIF survived after after we left.

788
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: I think they they folded pretty quick afterwards. I think

789
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 4: this was kind of the last turraw of TGIF was

790
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: our show.

791
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 8: Sure, So well, as it stands now, we're like, uh,

792
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 8: you know the canon that is in the show, Eric

793
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 8: just loses everything and then just turns his wackiness up

794
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 8: to twelve honestly, And so as you watched season seven,

795
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 8: really kind of see it through the lens of him

796
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 8: disguising his tragedy with humor and trying to, you know,

797
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 8: get attention in any way that he can because no

798
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 8: one's really paying attention to him. Because I feel like

799
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 8: that comes up quite a bit.

800
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: Actually that's specifically how I was playing it. He was

801
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: multi level. I wasn't doing that. I wasn't doing that

802
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: at all.

803
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: It just I think season seven is going to be

804
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 4: kind of the let's see how far we can push

805
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 4: Eric and if will, we'll do it, And of course

806
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: I would, so I think that's kind of just I mean,

807
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: there were times where we were betting on the set,

808
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: Michael and I would have bets like you can't pull

809
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: this joke off, Like he would say to me, you can,

810
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 4: I go. I got five bucks, it says, I'll get

811
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 4: a laugh on this, and there's no way you can't.

812
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 3: It's too big. I'm like, let's see. And so it

813
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: became a thing, and I think we're probably going to

814
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: be able to see that on on season seven.

815
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 8: I think I think a downfall of both Eric and

816
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 8: really Sean as well is them centering well, Penga centering

817
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 8: Corey and everything, but also constantly using Corey as a

818
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 8: blueprint for what their lives should be. So with Eric,

819
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 8: you have like I need a best friend, I need

820
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 8: a girlfriend. Sean, I have a best friend, I need

821
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 8: a girlfriend. And when they can't mimic properly what Corey has,

822
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 8: they instinctively feel that something's wrong with them and that

823
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 8: they're not you know, they're supposed to.

824
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 7: Be in a way.

825
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: That's so insightful, man.

826
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 7: That is like you mailed just like a crack the code.

827
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 7: That's what it is so true.

828
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 8: And even to Penga, I think is worse off from

829
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 8: trying to fit Corey's image of Topanga is versus what

830
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 8: her authentic pursuits would be. So it's just something that

831
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 8: we kind of see specifically through season six and seven.

832
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that was Yep, that's it.

833
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 8: What it is.

834
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not just that, it's also it started

835
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: back in the day.

836
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: If you go even back to season one with Sean,

837
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 4: it's he's got the nuclear family, mom and a dad,

838
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 4: and I mean it's he's got so it is.

839
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: It's it was balanced back then by the idea that

840
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: Corey still had a lot of growing to do.

841
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 6: Yes, he was still a little boy who was lost,

842
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 6: who had you know, improper impulses and things that he needed.

843
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 6: Whereas now it's like, no, he knows, you know, it's

844
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 6: like that turning point. I mean, I'll go back, I

845
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 6: know him like ringing the same bell, but like it

846
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 6: to me, it goes back to Long Walk to Pittsburgh

847
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 6: Part too, where Corey took authority of the show and

848
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 6: said I know better, We're right, all the parents are wrong.

849
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: And it's like it just destabilized the show. Like from

850
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: that point on, he is the center of you know,

851
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: and that's what we saw for me.

852
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 6: The baby, the Ted baby episode is just it's so

853
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 6: painful because it's like, this is not good man like

854
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 6: you're being. But the show kind of comes around Danielle

855
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 6: ted Pang is.

856
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 3: Gonna adjust to go back to her roots.

857
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: For him, it's like, no, well, I love how we

858
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: found out that really the reason that she was allowed

859
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: to live there is because she was the problem in

860
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 4: her parents.

861
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: Yessay, and we're hoping to get rid of me absolutely.

862
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 8: You know.

863
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 9: You guys brought up so many storylines that we like

864
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 9: wanted to revisit and talk to you and get your

865
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 9: take on, like one being this idea of the parents,

866
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 9: Like Amy is pregnant this season, and there is so

867
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 9: much story There are so many storylines that you can

868
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 9: tell in terms of her being in the older pregnancy,

869
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 9: you know, like all like that entire journey. We feel

870
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 9: like the episode where like the Lama's class that should

871
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 9: be centered around Amy's experience.

872
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: They told a ton of stories about Amy from Allen's

873
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: point of view, Yeah exactly.

874
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: Then almost loses a baby and I get to give

875
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: the baby monologue.

876
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 7: That's the point. It's like, there are so many storylines.

877
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: Oh.

878
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 9: Another one that we had was this idea of Feenie

879
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 9: starts off the season retired, then he's a student for

880
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 9: a day, and then he's a teacher, and we were like, actually,

881
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 9: it would have been so cool to see Phoenie go

882
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 9: back to school and actually just be one of the

883
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 9: gang at least for this season. Yeah, Like then we

884
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 9: can build up to have him and Dean and actually

885
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 9: see that relationship grow. And we wanted to know, like,

886
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 9: what do you think that that's a good idea, Like

887
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 9: how do you feel like Phoenie could have fit better

888
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 9: into this season?

889
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: It would have been great, especially because there were so

890
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: many episodes. We said, what we really need is Eric back.

891
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 6: With say we're students together.

892
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it would have been amazing.

893
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to if I could have, If

894
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: I could go back and pitch an episode for season six,

895
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: it would have been a day in the life of

896
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: Feenie retired where he doesn't know what to do, and

897
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: at one point he starts teaching the postal worker something

898
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: about history, giving life.

899
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: Life lessons to everybody about like he doesn't know what

900
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: to do.

901
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: He's sitting by himself and he's just absolutely lost, and

902
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: it would have been a wonderful way and then bring

903
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: Eric in and you know, I think Ryder you came

904
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: up with the idea at one point where it's like

905
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: Eric is no place to live, Phoene has extra room

906
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 4: at his house, the two of them together, and it

907
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: becomes kind of an odd couple situation is you can

908
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: mind that comedy for two seasons. So yeah, that would

909
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: have been because then you move in the Dean now

910
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: he's married. Now he's got to kick Eric out. Oh

911
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: my god, it's just the cool you know, the Dean

912
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: walks down, Eric's in his underwear, like all right, We've

913
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: got some rules of the house.

914
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, Dean, you know. I mean, it

915
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: could have been great.

916
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 6: I think they were really concerned that if you left

917
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 6: the Jack Rachel dynamic that their characters would not have enough.

918
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: And I think that that's a valid concern. I think

919
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: because when Eric did leave, they didn't have exactly that's.

920
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 6: I think you can't keep them just what what is it?

921
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 6: You know, like the two of them working on the couch.

922
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 6: I know, you have a whole episode about how tall

923
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 6: she is. It's literally the only storyline they riff on.

924
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 6: He'sn't secure about it, like.

925
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 8: Well, part of the we thought was a bigger issue

926
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 8: throughout the whole season is that college and education is

927
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 8: actually kind of sidelined compared to the role that it

928
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 8: plays in the earlier high school seasons and things like.

929
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: That concern about the co ed bathroom.

930
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.

931
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: There's a lot about the ya.

932
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 8: It was such a big deal for Eric to get

933
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 8: into college and what that meant to him after like

934
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 8: struggling for for so long, and even Sean wondering like

935
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 8: is college for me? And then they get there and

936
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 8: they completely abey well after Christmas, I don't think they

937
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 8: ever go back to school.

938
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: But we never talk about what we're reading or learning about.

939
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: I mean, we have like a little bit, but it's rare.

940
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 8: It feels like the show like undervalued the role that

941
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 8: education played in the day to day storytelling.

942
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 7: Yeah.

943
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And additionally, I would like to say I really

944
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: feel like they did a big disservice to Alan and Amy,

945
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: who would never even after having a new baby. They

946
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: really make it seem like, well, once your kid's in

947
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: college and out of your house, you don't check in

948
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: on them anymore or talk to them about where their

949
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: life is heading, or like, truly do they know any

950
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: of the stuff like, Okay, he's sleeping on the couch.

951
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: And instead of them saying like, let's have a bigger

952
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: conversation about this, they're like it's not working. Get out

953
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: of here. Like they don't they They're like, you're on

954
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: your own, sir, you're older than eighteen. It's just it

955
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: feels it feels well they have.

956
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 8: More kid gloves.

957
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 7: With Eric.

958
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 8: For Eric, it's always been get off the couch, get

959
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 8: a job, stop being your cocoa puffs. But for Corey

960
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 8: it's always been a Jettler approach, which I think is

961
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 8: something to kind of analyze too.

962
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: And then there's Morgan.

963
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 6: That's actually I'm just thinking about the whole education thing

964
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 6: because it's been such a focus of Weyby's world, right, Like,

965
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 6: but it seems to me the end of education is

966
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 6: getting into college and and and maybe it's not surprising

967
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 6: Michael didn't go to college, right so, like the he

968
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 6: could write about high school, it could write about that

969
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 6: world and focus on that and the value of education.

970
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 6: But once we get to college, what is the value

971
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 6: of that education?

972
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: Why focus on it?

973
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 8: This mirrors the experience of every millennial. I know college,

974
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 8: you don't know, I'll figure it out.

975
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 9: One of the things that Tony brought up when we

976
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 9: were talking with this idea of is Sean's depression, like

977
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 9: everything that Shawn's struggling going through the fact that like

978
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 9: he's in college and maybe college was never for him,

979
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 9: Like this idea of like he's in a place where

980
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 9: he has to you know, it's not like high school

981
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 9: where he has to be there. Now he's there and

982
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 9: he feels lost, and he's trying to be this different person. Yeah,

983
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 9: and it doesn't seem to be working out.

984
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 8: And the show never does anything to encourage Sean to

985
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 8: participate in college. It doesn't give him photography classes, it

986
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 8: doesn't give him journalism classes, it doesn't give him anything

987
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 8: of interest. He's only in college because his friends told

988
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 8: him to write.

989
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 6: For the most part, I mean, what I really disliked

990
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 6: about the early half of the season was the I

991
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 6: mean I just didn't like Sean and I feel like

992
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 6: there just wasn't enough context given to like how is

993
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 6: he approaching college differently than Cory? Why is you know,

994
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 6: because Corey is having these struggles fitting in or whatever

995
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 6: the episode.

996
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: And Shawn's just not very sympathetic, like he's not.

997
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 6: You know, And I would have been really nice to

998
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 6: have like an explanation for, Oh, Sean has met other girls,

999
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 6: you know, or Sean has met other guy friends that

1000
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 6: he's you.

1001
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: Know, just something. Instead it's just like I got other

1002
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: stuff going on. We'll see you later, man, or.

1003
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 4: Like or don't don't be that guy, Corey, like you

1004
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: know that some of the early episodes it was kind

1005
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: of like you got to tone it down.

1006
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: I was like, wait a second, that's not Sean at all.

1007
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: And that was the first crack in this season of

1008
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 4: the characters aren't who we thought they were. The first

1009
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: time I think we saw it was with Sean, and

1010
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, and now

1011
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: I'm not seeing it with Tapanga, and I'm oh, we're

1012
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: all just different.

1013
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 8: In terms of like the characters being different. One thing

1014
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 8: that you guys had pointed out, which we had speculated

1015
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 8: on throughout season six was like, oh, this Sean feels

1016
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 8: more like righter than Sean, and you know, this feels

1017
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 8: more like Will than Eric. And you know, writer, you

1018
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 8: kind of talked about how they would pull things from

1019
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 8: your actual life into the show, sometimes without even your consent,

1020
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 8: Like I guess I'm wondering like how the what the

1021
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 8: role of the merging between the actors and the characters,

1022
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 8: how that played into the show, and like, you know,

1023
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 8: we kind of sensed it, but you guys really confirmed

1024
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 8: it throughout the season that they were really kind of

1025
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 8: pulling from your individual lives. And is that like does

1026
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 8: that feel like an in vasion of privacy?

1027
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 9: Now?

1028
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 8: Does it feel like something that characters have you have

1029
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 8: ownership of?

1030
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 5: Now?

1031
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 8: Like how does that affect the show for you?

1032
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 6: It's funny because just hearing you say that, I'm realizing

1033
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 6: that like part of you know, part of the like

1034
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 6: sort of angst problem of Sean which I kept having,

1035
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 6: which is like why, Like it's just this question Mark,

1036
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 6: what are you upset about?

1037
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: Dude? Like why are you? You know, before he said

1038
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: what are you upset about? Like what's going on? Why

1039
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: are you just like not? And in retrospect, it's like

1040
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: I was pulling.

1041
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 6: Away from boy Meet's world set, Like I was literally

1042
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 6: like going to college, did not care about being there.

1043
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: And I wonder if our writers were kind of like

1044
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: what's going on with writer? I don't know, I don't know,

1045
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: he just doesn't want to be here.

1046
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 6: And then they just sort of wrote Sean like that,

1047
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 6: but like they actually didn't have an answer because I

1048
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 6: was just not hanging out, you know, and then they yeah,

1049
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 6: but until until Chet dies. I feel like Sewan is

1050
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 6: just doesn't make any sense to me. It did not

1051
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 6: make any sense. So maybe I was just a mystery

1052
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 6: as a as a as an eighteen year old, you know,

1053
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 6: like as somebody who they had watched grow up, who

1054
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 6: was always so happy to be there and part of

1055
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 6: the team. Suddenly I was like, no, man, I've got

1056
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 6: other things I'd rather do. And that's kind of how

1057
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 6: they wrote Sean.

1058
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like for several episodes, we always talk

1059
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 4: about the writer's room, the two am jokes, and it

1060
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: seems like in season six a lot of them stayed

1061
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: in the script.

1062
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 3: That mean, like the Burglar Lady, yes.

1063
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's like, all right, it's a placeholder that

1064
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: would have been in season four, would have been a

1065
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: placeholder until they write something better or more poignant or

1066
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: more on character, whatever it is. And I think a

1067
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: lot of those times they just went this is let's

1068
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: go with it.

1069
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1070
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 8: It just felt that way, to the detriment of the characters.

1071
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 8: I feel like, there, you know, we had mentioned that

1072
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 8: there's things we had disagreed with you, all the things

1073
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 8: we felt differently about. There were episodes that we were

1074
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 8: in disbelief. For example, the Truman Show episode, which we

1075
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 8: know is a rop. I was like, bruh, could you

1076
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 8: imagine if you had a roommate that did this to you,

1077
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 8: played on your trauma, that locked you in your apartment,

1078
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 8: that filmed you without your consent, Like he would not

1079
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 8: be your roommate anymore? Arrested the show, It's okay, next week,

1080
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 8: we'll get into another rops. It's the things that I'm like, well,

1081
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 8: this makes me like Eric less Actually yeah.

1082
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: Right, it made me like myself as a human less

1083
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: than the one character.

1084
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 9: Someone had pointed it out in the I can't remember

1085
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 9: which episode it is, but it's when they go to

1086
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 9: the wedding and they're seeking out the venue and they

1087
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 9: were like, can you imagine on your wedding day an

1088
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 9: eighteen year old standing up and saying, I hope one

1089
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 9: day you have what we have.

1090
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.

1091
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: I know if you think about the reality of any

1092
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: of these situations, you're like, wait, what, yeah, yeah, it.

1093
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 7: Was speaking of like my baby.

1094
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 9: Valentine's was another one of the episodes where we were

1095
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 9: very very like you guys kind of over overlooked the

1096
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 9: idea of getting a stripper for your mom for her

1097
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 9: baby shout, But that was an episode where we kind

1098
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 9: of like were pulling our hair out at this idea.

1099
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 7: Because the thing that they don't talk.

1100
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 9: About, and Danielle, I would love to get your viewpoint

1101
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 9: on this is this Valentine's Day that Corey is trying

1102
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 9: to make up for is the first since the Lauren incident,

1103
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 9: and he is consistently he's talking about how important it

1104
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 9: is that this Valentine's Day, like they show up for

1105
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 9: each other. But it's like, no, what you're actually trying

1106
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 9: to do is like rewrite history because you're like we

1107
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 9: always do this. It's like, well we didn't last year.

1108
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 9: Why didn't we last year?

1109
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 7: Corey?

1110
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean that I thought we talked

1111
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: about that, you know, when we did our recap. It

1112
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: was kind of like he's making this big deal about it,

1113
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: and meanwhile, Tapenga's like, listen, I get it, let's not

1114
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: talk about it.

1115
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: Last year was a bad year.

1116
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: But I don't need to go back to our obsessive

1117
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: every single Valentine's Day plan scenario, sometimes other people need

1118
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: to take precedence, and then I mean the one thing

1119
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: I guess I will say, although it's absolutely insane to

1120
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: imagine someone hiring a stripper for a baby shower, I

1121
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: will say that when you're thinking of like funny TV

1122
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: trope and men are gonna make big, big mistakes like that,

1123
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: it is a very funny concept that a guy would

1124
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: be like, all right, what do they do with? So

1125
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: we've got we've got cake, and you know what, I

1126
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: bet they have strippers. Let's bring a guy in. You know,

1127
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: Like I think that is a funny. That's just the

1128
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: concept of that is, Like I get why that's funny,

1129
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: but he's the character is so unlikable through that whole

1130
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: episode that to Valentine's Day, it was like a three

1131
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: episode Valentine's Day art just painful.

1132
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 4: Didn't We also think that there's a possibility that one

1133
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: of the reasons he got the strippers because he wanted

1134
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 4: the party to break up as earth he wanted so

1135
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: that he could go. So it's kind of him being like,

1136
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: what's the worst thing I could do to get this

1137
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 4: party to end? So I think that's another possibility too, well,

1138
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: like if.

1139
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 8: This were Home Improvement. For example, Tim would have done

1140
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 8: this and then learned a lesson about why he shouldn't

1141
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 8: have wore the episode. Corey doubles down and continues it

1142
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 8: into the next episode. Then you know, we we were

1143
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 8: actually laughing about this because we were like, Wow, they

1144
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 8: really liked Cory a lot more than we did this season. Like,

1145
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 8: and I think that has to do with Ben's performance

1146
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 8: and the laughter that probably happened behind the scenes, because

1147
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 8: I was just like, he is pushing himself on Angela.

1148
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 8: He's pushing himself like he read Sean's poem. He's like

1149
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 8: pushing to Pegas like this thing on this really tragic occasion.

1150
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 8: It just seems like he's forcing himself on everyone in

1151
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 8: the way that's making him so unlikable that it's distracting

1152
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 8: us from the show.

1153
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we just didn't want to keep saying

1154
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: the same thing.

1155
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, you reach a point where you're like, Okay,

1156
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 6: Corey's selfish, and it's a round you kind of have

1157
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 6: to otherwise the podcast would become really, really redundant and

1158
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 6: you know, you know, not fun. But I also understand

1159
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 6: I understand why the writers would justify it, because you

1160
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 6: do want to have somebody being like, your central character

1161
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 6: should be wrong often, right, they shouldn't make mistakes, they

1162
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 6: should have a you know, like you were like pointing

1163
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 6: out Tim Allen's character is a great example.

1164
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: But there's something lovable about that, right, there's like a lovable.

1165
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 6: Naivete or stupidity or sort of I don't know something

1166
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 6: about that that he can get away with it, whereas

1167
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 6: the Corey representation ends up being angry and and not

1168
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 6: just like uh neurotic, and he doesn't turn on himself enough.

1169
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: He sort of turns on everybody else. It's like, yeah,

1170
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 3: and doesn't learn anything.

1171
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are full episodes where he's the worst and

1172
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 4: then doesn't learn to or grow from it.

1173
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: It's just he's just the worst. Yeah, that's just the

1174
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: worst version of him.

1175
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 9: This actually that tells perfectly into this next question, which

1176
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 9: is that in your own season six you had a

1177
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 9: lot of like different bonus episodes. You guys had Wrestledmania,

1178
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 9: it became like Tiger Beat the podcast.

1179
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 7: You have like all these like nineties stars and the

1180
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 7: Vegas stuff.

1181
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 9: But I guess our question was it's like, were those

1182
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 9: episodes meant to like experiment and have like a fresh

1183
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 9: new take on your own season six or was it

1184
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 9: kind of like a breath of fresh air from like

1185
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 9: such a heavy season, because we did notice that, like, oh,

1186
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 9: they're taking some time in between episodes.

1187
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna do four episodes in a row where we

1188
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 3: go to the carnivals. What we're doing. Yeah, I mean,

1189
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 3: I think in general, we're just sort of like, you know, we've.

1190
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 6: Done a lot of boy Mets World talk, We've done

1191
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 6: a lot of you know, and I think there's a

1192
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 6: there's a sense that we've covered a.

1193
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: Lot of what you can from this subject for now.

1194
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: So I'm much more.

1195
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 6: Interested in, like the three of us exploring other subjects together.

1196
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 6: And I think hopefully we've created enough of a groundwork

1197
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 6: of like who we are as a sort of team

1198
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 6: and as individuals that it, you know, when we go

1199
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 6: into these like Backstreet Boys concerts or whatever, it is

1200
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 6: that there's clarity on like who's who's going in there,

1201
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 6: you know, as you're uh, And I think that's fun.

1202
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 6: So I'm really excited to do more of that personally,

1203
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 6: because I do find myself like how often can I

1204
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 6: talk crap about Corey or like, oh, you know, it's

1205
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 6: like so I think I find it refreshing, But it wasn't.

1206
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 6: It wasn't consciously because of season six. I think it's

1207
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 6: just because you know, we've been doing this podcast now

1208
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 6: for three years, and I just think we've reached that point.

1209
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 4: We've also been very lucky with iHeart and the iHeart family,

1210
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 4: and they do things that like, hey, we like to

1211
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 4: involve you in this, we want to send you here,

1212
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 4: we want to do that, and we're like, yeah, let's

1213
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 4: you know, it's a ton of fun. Let's go to

1214
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 4: Big Danielle doesn't like Vegas, we have to drag her there.

1215
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: Ryder and I are big, huge fans, so I've.

1216
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 3: Been to Vegas more this year than ever in my life.

1217
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: Me too.

1218
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 7: The same.

1219
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: I was that we're joking where it's like I have

1220
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 4: a favorite hotel in Vegas. Now, like, what are the

1221
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 4: chances of that happen? But yeah, I think writers right,

1222
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 4: we're just we're also exploring. You know, we know we're

1223
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 4: coming to the end of the show. We've got only

1224
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: season seven left to recap, and we don't want to end.

1225
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 4: That's the one thing we keep hearing at every live

1226
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 4: show and every place we're going to is people are

1227
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 4: standing up and saying please, just whatever.

1228
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 3: You do, just keep going. And so we're i think,

1229
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what that's going to be and

1230
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: what that's going to look like.

1231
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 4: And so we're you know, exploring our options and just

1232
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: spending as much time with each other as we can.

1233
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: Frankly, so we're not sick of each other. Yet it's close, and.

1234
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: Yes, it's also a nice palette cleanser some of the

1235
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: more difficult seasons.

1236
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 8: I know that.

1237
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: More often in this season than any other season, knowing

1238
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: when I had to watch an episode, I'd be like, okay,

1239
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: deep breath, I'm not sure.

1240
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I'm going to be in for.

1241
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: And you know, like writer said, there is some We

1242
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: had a rule when we started the podcast that we

1243
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: weren't going to self edit as we go, that we

1244
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: were going to just have very real, honest conversations, and

1245
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: then if there was anything that we said later that

1246
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: we thought, you know, maybe that's going to sound too mean,

1247
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: or that's going to sound too harsh, or I said

1248
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: that in a way that sounds like something I didn't.

1249
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: Mean that, then we can edit it.

1250
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: But definitely, when you hit a season that's kind of

1251
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: all over the place, there is a little bit of

1252
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: modulating of like, really, I'm having to look for the

1253
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: positives so that all three of us are not just

1254
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: broken records of highlighting the obviously negative, like some of

1255
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious, it's okay to mention it. But also

1256
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: we're going to find those moments like you mentioned, of

1257
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: absolute joy in watching something Ben does, or you know,

1258
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: something that one of us does that we go that

1259
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: was really funny, or seeing moments where we are very

1260
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: clearly out of character and they're either allowing it or

1261
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: they didn't have another option. But like we were, we

1262
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: just wanted to find moments of joy anywhere we could.

1263
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 1: Sometimes that meant away from boy Meet's world. Other times

1264
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: that meant really finding the positives in the actual episode

1265
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: where we could.

1266
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 9: Sure.

1267
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 8: You know, one of the things that we've always really

1268
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 8: loved about your podcast is how you guys are kind

1269
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 8: of unedited and you will kind of approach topics that

1270
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 8: you know are hard to talk about. There's one thing

1271
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 8: and feel free to do it. Answer this, don't answer

1272
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 8: or edit it out, don't edit it. But we were

1273
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 8: just curious, you know, we really loved the everybody loved

1274
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 8: Stewart episode that's our favorite episode of the whole season,

1275
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 8: and because it kind of really approaches the like me

1276
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 8: tooness of the moment. However, it seemed strange to us

1277
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 8: that you guys kind of didn't speak on the fact

1278
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 8: that Fred Savage himself was roped into a me too controversy,

1279
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 8: so much so that he was removed from the Wonder

1280
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 8: Years reboot. And I was just wondering if there was

1281
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 8: any like conscious choice to talk about that, bring that up,

1282
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 8: not bring it up, if that was in the atmosphere

1283
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 8: at all.

1284
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did talk about it.

1285
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: We talked about it, and truthfully, out of respect for men,

1286
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: we decided not to comment on it. We we have

1287
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: still not spoken to Ben, but we know that Ben's

1288
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: family and that they are incredibly private, and even the

1289
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: reason he gave us for not wanting to be a

1290
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: part of the podcast was that he just didn't think

1291
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: it was for him. And I'm speculating, but I think

1292
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: a large part of that is because there's a we've

1293
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: been very vulnerable and we've been very open, and that's

1294
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: not for everybody.

1295
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 7: I think that.

1296
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if we have any special access to

1297
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: more information about Fred's situation you know, I don't. I

1298
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: feel like all we could really do was say, and

1299
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: this interesting. This episode also is interesting to look back

1300
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: on because of X y Z, which is in the

1301
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: public eye. But then when I were like, why are

1302
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: we connecting these dots, I don't know, because we you know,

1303
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: people can connect those dots if they want, like we don't.

1304
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't part of the Wonder Years team.

1305
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 6: I don't know anything more than what I could also

1306
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 6: google Fred Savage's name and look up and about that situation.

1307
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: So I don't.

1308
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't. We weren't gonna get any more good

1309
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 6: analysis of the episode out of talking about it. And

1310
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 6: I don't know if it would reflect on I just

1311
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 6: don't know what it would reflect on. But yeah, so

1312
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 6: we went back and forth and it was sort of like,

1313
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 6: do we acknowledge this for the sake of our listeners?

1314
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 4: Uh?

1315
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like what what would our listeners take

1316
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: away from that? That's what I guess. I don't know

1317
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: what they would do with that information.

1318
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 9: I think for us as listeners, like and again like

1319
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 9: this will be however it comes out, but like for

1320
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 9: us as listeners, it's like, we know that you are

1321
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 9: very vulnerable and you have no problem being like, hey,

1322
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 9: just so you know, this is attached to a controversy.

1323
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 7: You know, we're not going to speak on it, and

1324
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 7: like that to us is kind of like enough.

1325
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 9: I maybe I missed the part what you did to

1326
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 9: call that out in that episode, but like for me,

1327
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 9: I think that was kind of like our whole thing

1328
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 9: is like, oh, they didn't even acknowledge it, which is

1329
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 9: unusual for them, because they are least will say, hey,

1330
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 9: we know that this is sticky. We're doing hands off.

1331
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 9: And I think for me it even makes sense from

1332
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 9: a respect perspective. I think when we talked about it,

1333
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 9: it's like, oh, they have a like Ben, and the

1334
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 9: relationship is what it is. You know, you're it's his brother,

1335
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 9: so you want to be respectful to that. And especially

1336
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 9: when it's something like this, you can't speak on anything

1337
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 9: that you weren't present for.

1338
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I am not. I'm certainly not going to

1339
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: come out and say.

1340
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: I never had a bad experience with Fred, cause guess what,

1341
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: my experience with Thread doesn't mean anything. Who cares like so,

1342
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: and so that wouldn't have added to the conversation in

1343
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: any way. It is interesting because now I'm thinking about

1344
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: what you said, we did have when we recorded the episode,

1345
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: there was something in the intro and did we end

1346
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: up deciding to cut it?

1347
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 3: Is that what happened it? Remember?

1348
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 6: But it was literally just like and this episode has

1349
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 6: gotten more attention of late because of controversy surrounding Fred

1350
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 6: and and and that was and we did discuss it.

1351
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 6: And that's interesting to see to hear you say that

1352
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 6: you would have liked that acknowledgment, because that was the

1353
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 6: debate between us.

1354
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: It was like, do is this being dishonest? Do not

1355
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: acknowledge it?

1356
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 6: Or is it opening the can of worms for no

1357
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 6: reason because we're we're not going to do much more

1358
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 6: than acknowledge it because we don't have much we don't

1359
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 6: have much money to add or to add And does

1360
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 6: that change the analysis of the episode really and our

1361
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 6: discussion not really. So it seemed kind of but I

1362
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 6: understand what you're saying that that there's a there's is

1363
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 6: a kind of social contract we have with our listeners,

1364
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 6: right that we will be ourselves and that we will

1365
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 6: acknowledge our point of views.

1366
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: So maybe that maybe we could have done that.

1367
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, to me, I think it completely Your answer completely

1368
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 9: makes sense it's complicated.

1369
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 7: You know, we all production.

1370
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 9: You do things, you take it out, you hit it in,

1371
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 9: and particularly with something like this, it's it's controversial, so

1372
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 9: you want to be very sensitive.

1373
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 7: It's just like from a Podmets World branding.

1374
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 9: Perspective, we were very much like, oh, they usually don't

1375
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 9: have a problem putting like a little tag in the beginning,

1376
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 9: so why didn't they? And also like hearing you talk

1377
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 9: about your relationship with Ben as this I'll say, listen

1378
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 9: to your podcast has really made me rethink Ben's relationship

1379
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 9: with this because you've talked about how like Ben became

1380
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 9: a mirror for Michael, and I was like, oh, you know,

1381
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 9: maybe that's not a journey he wants to step back into,

1382
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 9: you know, and we can't speak for him, but it's

1383
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 9: lots of things where it's like, oh, what does it

1384
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 9: feel to be the muse? Are the surrogate for someone

1385
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 9: who is way older than you? Like, these are conversations

1386
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 9: that we look at and we're like, oh, where does

1387
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 9: Ben n and Michael begin? These are things that you know,

1388
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 9: like as audience members, we can speculate, but like, for

1389
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 9: it being your real life, you may not want to

1390
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 9: revisit the.

1391
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: That Yeah, totally. Yeah, we recognize that there are a

1392
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: lot of reasons somebody could say I don't want to

1393
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: step into this world. You know it really it's a

1394
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: it's a it's a choice, and so you know, we

1395
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: totally understand. And yeah, I mean, I definitely I think

1396
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: I I think I will take responsibility for being the

1397
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: one cutting that section out at the beginning, because I

1398
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: think I felt this. I think I was probably the

1399
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: one who felt the strongest about it. Also because there's

1400
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: also a certain sense of responsibility I feel because it's

1401
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: also my voice saying I'm the one does who does

1402
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: the intro and when I'm when I'm the person reading it,

1403
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: and I'm the one then saying and by the way,

1404
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, Fred had this happen out of respect for

1405
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: not for Fred, who I do not have a relationship with,

1406
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: out of respect for Ben, who I think you know,

1407
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: said to us, go do the podcast. I don't want

1408
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: to hold you back. But then obviously once we did it,

1409
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: something very much changed. I just didn't want to add

1410
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: one more thing, Like we already share effusively our stories

1411
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: and experiences with him, and and you know, we think

1412
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: they are all.

1413
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: Positive, but he doesn't you know, he may or may

1414
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: not like that.

1415
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: He may think, even if it's a great story, he

1416
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: might be thinking, keep my name out of your mouth.

1417
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. And so I know, I when I

1418
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: heard it and it was my voice either, I had

1419
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: a fear that was Ben's going to hear it and

1420
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: he's going to be angry at me for acknowledging this,

1421
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: and with coupled with the things right said that, I

1422
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure what it added to the dialogue of

1423
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: the situation. So I know that was that was my fear.

1424
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: And it's what you know, we have to make these

1425
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: decisions very quickly when we do the episodes. But you know,

1426
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: hearing what you said, like writer said, you're you're right

1427
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: that it probably was not It wasn't the right choice

1428
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: with the social contract we have with our listenership.

1429
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 3: But I will say, Danielle, we all chose to cut

1430
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: it just on you.

1431
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 8: I know what.

1432
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 4: We definitely all chose to cut it out, which because

1433
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: again we just we just don't know. I mean, So

1434
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 4: that's what it came down is like we literally have

1435
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 4: nothing we can add to this. We know exactly what

1436
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 4: everybody else does, and so you know, You're right, we

1437
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 4: probably fumbled it where we should have at least acknowledged it.

1438
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 4: But that's all it would have been, would be acknowledging

1439
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 4: what everybody else knows from the news because there's literally

1440
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 4: nothing we could add to it.

1441
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 9: Sure, I just want to say, Danielle, first of all,

1442
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 9: thank you so much for being vulnerable and sharing that

1443
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 9: with us.

1444
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 7: But also your.

1445
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 9: Voices are so important, specifically yours, because we've seen this

1446
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 9: show continuously through a very specific lens, and something that

1447
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 9: we pride our podcast on is being able to be

1448
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 9: like what about these other characters who very clearly have

1449
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 9: a voice, who very clearly, as we talked about earlier

1450
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 9: in this interview, should have had their own storylines and

1451
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 9: like this idea of even at the end of the season,

1452
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 9: we're meeting to pink Us parents again and they're nothing

1453
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 9: like and we're like, they weren't at her graduation, they

1454
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 9: weren't at her engagement party, like you know, like she

1455
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 9: doesn't have this any real support other than her friend

1456
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 9: who she met this year, Like what is her story?

1457
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 9: That's kind of like what we keep coming back to.

1458
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 9: So you are the voice of not only Tapangle, but

1459
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 9: like you add a voice that is needed. And to

1460
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 9: add to that, this podcast, even when the episodes aren't good,

1461
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 9: listening to the three of you have fun make those episodes.

1462
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 9: There are episodes where I was like, I did not

1463
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 9: like this episode, but I liked listening to pod cover

1464
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 9: this episode because they were having so.

1465
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 7: Much fun that I don't care that. Yeah, no, it

1466
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 7: doesn't make sense.

1467
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 9: It's a rom and forward and I just wanted to

1468
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 9: give you credit for that because we understand that certain people,

1469
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 9: certain demographics, don't like it when a woman speaks, but

1470
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 9: we appreciate it because it gives insight and it gives

1471
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 9: voice to.

1472
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 7: A lot of people who are sidelined.

1473
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate it.

1474
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 4: Danielle A writer, and I love when Danielle speaks, provided

1475
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 4: she doesn't get shrill.

1476
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 7: And it's like.

1477
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 3: Man nails on aboard.

1478
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 8: Well, for the for the sake of lightning things up

1479
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 8: a little bit, I would love to jump into some

1480
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 8: season six superlatives with you guys. Is there a favorite

1481
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 8: episode that comes to mind when you think about season six?

1482
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: God of the show or of our podcast.

1483
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't think of both of them at the

1484
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 3: same time, Danielle.

1485
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I think you know, in terms

1486
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 6: of importance as far as an experience, the we'll have

1487
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 6: a good time. Then it's just you know, for me,

1488
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, that's a seminal episode. It's obviously I

1489
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 6: invested in the acting and had such a great experience,

1490
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 6: so that's always going to be super.

1491
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 3: Memorable for me.

1492
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a that's a good one.

1493
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 3: But now I'm kind of really tempted to say the

1494
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 3: b Brain episode, which came out of.

1495
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 9: Nowhere so much it was true, be true with an

1496
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 9: episode that we hated and I think up there with

1497
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 9: like the worst, but listening to you cover it was hilarious.

1498
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 9: That being said, I cannot pretend like this episode, that

1499
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 9: episode ridiculous.

1500
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: I would say that, you know, culminating obviously with the

1501
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 4: ultimate episode for the arc. But I think the Tommy

1502
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 4: storyline for for me was super important this season. It

1503
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 4: just showed, you know, it was playing off of was

1504
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: it last season where Eric dated the girl with the

1505
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 4: season five or four, I can't remember which one it was,

1506
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 4: but dated the woman who had a child.

1507
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: I think they saw Eric and you know, we we.

1508
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 4: Always talk about Eric is very childlike and he's also

1509
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 4: like we've you know, said, he's basically a golden retriever,

1510
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 4: which is which is what Eric does. So I think

1511
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 4: putting him with with a kid, especially a kid who's vulnerable,

1512
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 4: I think is it was some you know, showed a

1513
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: great depth to Eric, so that that story arc meant

1514
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 4: a lot to me.

1515
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: This season, I think friendly Persuasion, where Trina really got

1516
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to just something yeah and just say

1517
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,799
Speaker 1: to Corey like, listen, man, you've never put in an effort.

1518
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: Don't now suddenly make an effort because you want to

1519
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: manipulate the situation. You're not my friend.

1520
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: You've never been my friend.

1521
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 8: I thought.

1522
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: Even though he was kind of annoying and pushing himself,

1523
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: I at least also appreciated that he cared enough, like

1524
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: he took the criticism and was like, well, I don't

1525
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: want that. You maybe you're right, I don't want that.

1526
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: How can I make this? How can I make this right?

1527
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: I appreciated that aspect of seeing their relationship. And for

1528
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, Trina is so good and every time they

1529
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: give her something, she knocks it out of the park,

1530
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: and there's just not enough opportunities given to her in

1531
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: the season at all.

1532
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 2: And seriously, for Tepenga.

1533
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: Both of their relationships are entirely both of their characters

1534
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: are entirely focused on how how invested they are in

1535
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: the relationships with their partners.

1536
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: And that's it.

1537
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tushy Dance, I'd like to throw I'd like to

1538
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 4: brilliant episode. Uh, that's the one that'll probably go into

1539
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: the Smithsonian, I think.

1540
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 8: And uh, you know, after this season, obviously there was

1541
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 8: a lot of you know, feelings about the characters not

1542
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 8: being who they were set up to be. But do

1543
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 8: you have a favorite character from season six?

1544
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, mmmm, I mean Jack really grew from Jack.

1545
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 3: Jack was pretty I mean, they didn't give him a

1546
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: whole lot to do, but Matt was.

1547
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 6: Killing amazing and he does not get enough attention or agreed, yes,

1548
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 6: but it's just really great and like I yeah, maybe

1549
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 6: it's because I was coming in not expecting that, but

1550
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 6: I was really impressed with the arc and it makes

1551
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 6: sense and it's not in your face.

1552
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'd also like to throw into the mix

1553
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 4: because it's the same kind of uh category of didn't

1554
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 4: wasn't used enough, but when.

1555
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 3: Was used was incredible?

1556
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 7: Was Allen?

1557
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 3: I thought Rusty?

1558
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 4: I thought season six for Rusty with some of the

1559
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: stuff that he did from the stupid impressions at the

1560
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 4: end where he got a chance to be a little

1561
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 4: bit funny to you know, being a dad again, even

1562
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 4: though that should have been an amy episode. He there

1563
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 4: was some stuff this season that I thought Rusty was

1564
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 4: really great. And then you couple in the fact that

1565
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 4: he was also directing some of the episodes too. I

1566
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 4: think Rusty season six, Rusty was was pretty great.

1567
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 8: Rusty.

1568
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to stay with Jack. Jack I thinks

1569
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: grew the most for me, had the had the biggest impact,

1570
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: surprised me the most. I just overall loved that.

1571
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 8: We have a quick game that we want to do

1572
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 8: with you guys, and we'll try to be as lightning

1573
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 8: fast as possible. But basically the game for season six

1574
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 8: is fill in the blank.

1575
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 7: Now.

1576
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 8: The blanks aren't quotes, they're missing storylines that should have

1577
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 8: been included in the season. Nice starting off, what happened

1578
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 8: to know by these angels after the truck stop tragic

1579
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 8: truck accident.

1580
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: There's only one angel left. Three of them were killed.

1581
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 3: She's still there at the truck on.

1582
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 6: The other three became angels and came back and they performed,

1583
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 6: the performed.

1584
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 4: Three of them are angels, and one of them is

1585
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 4: a live, still brilliant crossover.

1586
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 3: Now it's called Somebody's Angels.

1587
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 7: Yes, I love it.

1588
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 8: Okay, you're throwing Amy Matthews a baby shower. Where are

1589
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,879
Speaker 8: her friends? Who are you inviting?

1590
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 7: What are you doing?

1591
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: The other realtors and.

1592
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 3: Art gallery.

1593
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm also going to say she's got some

1594
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: neighbor friends who were they raised kids in the same

1595
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: neighborhood and and they probably come over as well.

1596
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: It's just it is some wilderness store clients. Do we

1597
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: still love that?

1598
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 7: That's still a thing. We've really been excited to ask

1599
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 7: you this question. Who would you cast as Jack's stepfather?

1600
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 8: Oh, often discussed but never seen, wealthy stepfather.

1601
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 4: You know who I absolutely would have used because he

1602
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 4: was He was brilliant and completely used wrong. I would

1603
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 4: have had Michael McKeon play his stepfather and and would

1604
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 4: have had a regular you know, whether they bring back

1605
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 4: Peter Torque or not, you have a more hippie crunchy

1606
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 4: Topanga's dad, because my McKeon would have been the great.

1607
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 4: I mean he he did it. He did the role

1608
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 4: just as to Peg his dad, which makes no sense.

1609
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 4: So I think he could have been a great step.

1610
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 6: If if if anybody's on the table, Tom Cruise, yes,

1611
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 6: you just have like he's like the ultimate, like just

1612
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 6: perfect person. And Jack is like, ah, I'm never gonna

1613
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 6: live up to my stepdad and he's got all the money,

1614
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,520
Speaker 6: and he's like he wouldn't.

1615
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 3: Have done it because he would have to stand next

1616
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: to Maitland.

1617
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 2: Jensen is suggesting Ted McGinley.

1618
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 3: That would be great, Ted would be great.

1619
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 8: Some options we came up with was like a Dylan

1620
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 8: McDermott to kind of like play into that like swap tip.

1621
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 8: We also thought we could go completely rogue and just

1622
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 8: cast like a ving Rams and really throw people.

1623
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: For a look. That would have been great too, Okay, Elba, yes,

1624
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,799
Speaker 3: really just show.

1625
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 8: A difference there. Okay, So last question, and this is

1626
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 8: for all of you. What is everyone's major.

1627
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 2: As our character?

1628
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, characters, what are and what is everyone's major?

1629
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 4: I think Eric is clearly a communications major. Yeah, you're

1630
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 4: just in college, so yeah that is my major? So yes,

1631
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 4: there you go, there you.

1632
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 6: Shawn, he's not doing photography, but he does end up

1633
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 6: being a photography ends up being a photo journalist, right, but.

1634
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 3: Literally it wouldn't Shaan be literature? Yeah, I mean yeah,

1635
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 3: probably probably English.

1636
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: I think English, like English.

1637
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, to Panga, I don't know.

1638
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: I mean to Penga, you know, wanted to go to

1639
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: Yale and and we know, like thinking about Girl meets World.

1640
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: She becomes a lawyer. So I'm like, okay, what if

1641
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: she ends up going to law school?

1642
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: Would she?

1643
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, political science? I mean she worked in a she

1644
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 1: that's probably a great one.

1645
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 4: Political also, think to Panga would clearly be one of

1646
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 4: those people that was a double major. Yeah, it would

1647
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 4: be poly sci and some thing you know, environmental, you know,

1648
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 4: something like that. But they just get rid of that

1649
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 4: part of her life entirely.

1650
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, canon that you guys made that Pinbrook

1651
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 9: and that's the only explained like that, that gap.

1652
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 7: But yeah, Corey and Angela.

1653
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish we knew one tiny thing about

1654
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: Angela so that I could tell you what I suspect

1655
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 1: it is. Although she seems really in tune with like

1656
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: human behavior, and I wouldn't be surprised if she's a

1657
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 1: psychology major.

1658
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 3: I could see that.

1659
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, she does write a paper about maintaining black identity

1660
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 8: with three very white friends.

1661
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 4: There you go She could also be because you know,

1662
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 4: they they do have her as such a strong woman.

1663
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 4: She also could be an African American studies major. I

1664
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 4: mean she clearly could could could be doing that as well.

1665
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: Corey. I think Corey changes his major every year.

1666
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 7: That's ract Jack and Rachel.

1667
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 4: Rachel is going to Yale apparently Jack's business business major.

1668
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 3: Business major.

1669
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rachel Rachel studying.

1670
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 3: Hospitality to Yale to study hospitality. She gave up her

1671
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 3: Yale you can't.

1672
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: I mean, Cornell's School of Hotel Management is like one

1673
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 4: of the best schools in the in the country, So

1674
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 4: I mean it could be something like the two of

1675
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 4: them end up going.

1676
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 3: To Peace Corps.

1677
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe international business studies or economics, economics.

1678
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 8: See why you wanted to tell you In hospitality, she's

1679
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 8: always doing something with something.

1680
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: She all of her storylines revolve around taking care of

1681
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: others or doing you know, others, others others. So I

1682
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: don't know, That's why I was like, she could.

1683
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 4: Also be pre med where she's then studying to be

1684
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 4: a doctor or a nurse or something along them lines

1685
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 4: as well, So there's there's a possibility she's on track

1686
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:02,560
Speaker 4: for that.

1687
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: So she would be like a biology major or something. Maybe, yeah,

1688
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 3: something along those lines.

1689
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 8: Well we'll take this as canon because the show never whatsoever.

1690
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 8: But yeah, thank you guys so much for checking with

1691
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 8: us answering our questions. We're really excited for you to

1692
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 8: get to season seven. We know it's the final season,

1693
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 8: but there are so many great things. I feel like

1694
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 8: Jack becomes the character he should have been the whole time.

1695
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 3: In season seven.

1696
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 8: I feel like Eric is kind of thrown off the

1697
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 8: deep end, but in a way that's more funny than

1698
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 8: it is this season. Like this season it feels like

1699
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 8: he's a little bit more harshres the next season it

1700
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 8: feels more lighthearted to me.

1701
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 3: That's right.

1702
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 4: This is stuck in the couch and and in the

1703
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 4: you know. Okay, so yeah we go, we go honeymoon

1704
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 4: all of that stuff.

1705
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, for help, and we know you're always working on guests,

1706
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 8: but if you're able to get like a Marsha Cross

1707
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 8: or even a mc foley or something like that, that

1708
01:20:59,080 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 8: would be a lot of fun.

1709
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: We try to get everybody, reach out to everybody all

1710
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: the time. And yeah, anybody who hasn't been on the

1711
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: podcast yet is because they have either not been we've

1712
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: not been able to work out their schedule or because

1713
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: they have said no, but we ask everyone, but Marsha

1714
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: Cross will be a really fun one too. I did

1715
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: also want to give a little footnote and say thank

1716
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: you both for honoring my request. I've never given you

1717
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: a request of what we can or cannot talk about

1718
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: in the recaps ever, but this year I did requests

1719
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: that we not talk about one particular guest because I

1720
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: knew I would end up all over certain gossip websites tomorrow,

1721
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: and so I appreciate you honoring that request. However, in

1722
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: light of our conversation about the Everybody Loves Stewart episode,

1723
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: makes me feel like maybe it was the wrong thing,

1724
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 1: but I I just didn't want to mention that person's

1725
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: name because it'll.

1726
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 8: Just be that one was understandable and can we just say,

1727
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 8: just as a blanket statement, one of our biggest take

1728
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 8: ways from that episode was like, I don't think people

1729
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,879
Speaker 8: gave you guys the props for just having a hard conversation.

1730
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 8: Like I feel like in today's day, it's so easy

1731
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 8: to burn bridges and write people off and not try

1732
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 8: to have a hard conversation or to overly edit it

1733
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 8: or polish it or whatever, and it's just I felt

1734
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 8: like it was so brave to just say, like, we're

1735
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 8: gonna have a hard conversation. Whatever it is, it is

1736
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 8: what it is, and I feel like that's really the

1737
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 8: brand of Podmeets World and whether it's become over these

1738
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 8: six years. She's guys saying, you know what, We're gonna

1739
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 8: have an authentic conversation. Whatever comes out, it's gonna come out,

1740
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 8: and we hope that you guys get something positive out of.

1741
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 7: It, and we always do.

1742
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: Thank you both so much. Such a joy to see you.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: We love coming and we're so happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna be really happy and really sad to

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Speaker 4: see you next time.

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Speaker 3: That'll be the end for us.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, really, I feel like Season seven recap will

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Speaker 9: be even better because we get the entire season.

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Speaker 7: To talk about and really the nice show.

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Speaker 9: Seriously, you'll be able to like see your character from

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01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 9: beginning to end, and I think just seeing you guys,

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01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 9: knowing that for the first time, the three of you

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01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 9: and Jensen have never seen this before, and you get

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01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 9: to really see the very beginning of your characters to

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Speaker 9: the end, I'm sure you'll have a lot.

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Speaker 7: Of questions, you'll have lots of comments, but we can.

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Speaker 9: Say that season six has been the lowest, So I'm

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Speaker 9: okay how high it goes.

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Speaker 7: But just know that you've you've you've gone through that journey.

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Speaker 8: To the valley, you got through the heart.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you both so much. Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Great to see you guys, bye by bye.

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Speaker 1: They're always so great and bring such a good perspective

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Speaker 1: and point out things that, you know, even.

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Speaker 6: A couple of things today that were like, I know, right,

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Speaker 6: it was really you know, it's really nice to hear

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Speaker 6: because there you know, I did feel so much pressure

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Speaker 6: this season to lean into the rompness of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but I feel like I actually started turning off a

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Speaker 6: certain like analysis part of my brain and hearing like

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Speaker 6: their thoughts. I was like, no, there's some there's like

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Speaker 6: consistent themes and things to read and hear, even if

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Speaker 6: it's even if you don't like it, it's okay to

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 6: read those things and to point them out. And it's

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Speaker 6: it's inspiring me to like get back on my game

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Speaker 6: as far as a podcaster and like start thinking about

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01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 6: these things a little, you know, because I just don't

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Speaker 6: want to sound like too negative, but at the same time,

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Speaker 6: like there's parts of the show that should be well.

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Speaker 3: There's just things being said by the show, right, there's

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Speaker 3: things that that's what this is.

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Speaker 6: This is storytelling, and boy Mean's world was actively telling

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Speaker 6: a story and reading that and pointing out what it's saying.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's that's what we're here to do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I also think it's one of those things where we

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01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 4: need to remind ourselves that and we've talked about this

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01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 4: before that we're in very rarefied air of television.

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Speaker 3: For a show going as long as it does.

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Speaker 4: And keeping the characters fresh and vibrant and storylines criss

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01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 4: crossing and adding new characters and getting rid of characters,

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Speaker 4: it's not an easy thing to do. And we had

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Speaker 4: phenomenal writers and producers that were doing that for And

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Speaker 4: there is not a show in the history of television

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Speaker 4: that has been seven, eight, nine, ten years of bangers, right,

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Speaker 4: every single one. Yeah, doesn't exist. So I don't care

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Speaker 4: if you're Mash or Cheers. There are seasons of Cheers

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Speaker 4: that weren't great. There are seasons of Mash that weren't great.

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Speaker 4: That's just the way it works, and you know I

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Speaker 4: think people get that well.

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