WEBVTT - A&G Replay Monday Hour Three

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<v Speaker 1>And broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the

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<v Speaker 2>Now enjoy the Armstrong and Geddy replay. We talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this a little bit earlier, but I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>into more of the specifics because I find this really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>The headline sort of hides a lot of the really

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff. The headline being that you reach your functional

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<v Speaker 2>peak as a human later than they had previously thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Now functional functional is what we're going to get into

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<v Speaker 2>defining here that word as they use sixteen different dimensions.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a serious, like university study. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know so many studies and you should look

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<v Speaker 2>out for this. It's fun to talk about him. So

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<v Speaker 2>many studies that you hear that are you know it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out, you know it's paid for by the pudding corporation,

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<v Speaker 2>and it turns out you'd be better off eating more

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<v Speaker 2>pudding in your life or whatever, right exactly, Just dumb

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. But it turns out that people reach

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<v Speaker 2>their functional peak in their late fifties early sixties, decades

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<v Speaker 2>later than most people assume when you figure in all

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<v Speaker 2>these different things. So physical strength obviously, and certain cognitive

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<v Speaker 2>abilities like processing speed decline steadily after your mid twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we all canna test. Yes, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>past your mid twenties, you're aware of that, But a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of other things you get stronger at for

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<v Speaker 2>quite some time, but they all diminish it eventually. Intelligence, personality,

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<v Speaker 2>emotional intelligence, decision making, overall functioning continues developing through midlife,

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<v Speaker 2>reaching its apex at around sixty years old. A twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five year old can process information faster, hold more items

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<v Speaker 2>in their working memory, and solve abstract reasoning problems more

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<v Speaker 2>quickly than someone decades older. So that stuff, you're better

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty five than you are later. And that's who

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<v Speaker 2>was I talking to the other day. They were younger

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<v Speaker 2>than me and they're talking about how they forget stuff now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, yeah, I finally had to give in

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<v Speaker 2>and start like leaving my self notes because I used

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<v Speaker 2>to just I used to be very proud of I

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<v Speaker 2>just I could remember everything I needed to do and

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<v Speaker 2>how I was going to do it, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>knew I was going to remember. That worked for a

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<v Speaker 2>while and then it until it didn't. Fluid intelligence, because

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about working memory there, holding information in

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<v Speaker 2>your head and all that sort of stuff, peaks around

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. Fluid intelligence, the ability to think on your

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<v Speaker 2>feet and solve novel program problems, peaks at twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>declines after that. Wow, isn't that something? Huh? Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably good for you know a lot of your military

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<v Speaker 2>age people and the kind of decisions they got to

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<v Speaker 2>make really quickly on their feet and they're around twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, there's a lot to this. Yeah, other terms

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<v Speaker 3>to understand and subtleties and the rest of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Other advantages emerge with age that younger adults haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>time to develop. Crystallized intelligence, which is not a term

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<v Speaker 2>i'd but it means accumulated knowledge and vocabulary obviously keeps

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<v Speaker 2>rising well until your sixties, right that you can call

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<v Speaker 2>it wisdom if you wanted to. Financial literacy for some

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<v Speaker 2>reason improves into your late sixties early seventies. It goes

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that, it goes beyond other kinds of inteligence, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's something. Yeah, But then dig this one. Moral reasoning,

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<v Speaker 2>because this all comes under the category of you being

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<v Speaker 2>able to function. So some of then drop off early,

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<v Speaker 2>some of them go later. Moral reasoning tends to rise

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<v Speaker 2>through most of adulthood, and research indicates that it reverses

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<v Speaker 2>very late in life. Your moral reasoning will reverse very

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<v Speaker 2>late in life. It's all rob a bank and have

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<v Speaker 2>an affair or what's what's that all about. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to ask my slaves if they agree very late

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<v Speaker 2>in life you're a little late in life. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're just a bad person if you got

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<v Speaker 2>slaves at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Well guilty, Yeah, is this thing true? I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting that they came up with different terms, or more

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<v Speaker 3>specific terms for the aspects of wisdom. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>we need all of them, but it's interesting to hear

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<v Speaker 3>it broken out. I mean, you just you have so

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<v Speaker 3>many case studies, not only your own, but those of

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<v Speaker 3>close friends and relatives and their experiences, and you just

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<v Speaker 3>you're You're like a much more experienced surgeon. Yes, Michael,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that's why so many old people say whatever's on

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<v Speaker 3>their mind, because they have no more moral reasoning.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Is the case of the efforts the

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<v Speaker 2>same as moral reasoning, yeah, or you know, combines in

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<v Speaker 2>some cases. But yeah, well, Katie and I were talking

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<v Speaker 2>earlier when you were gone. Just some of this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>really flies in the face of why do we have

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<v Speaker 2>eighty year olds running the country? Oh? On some of these,

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<v Speaker 2>some of these, but right.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a bunch of old guys running the country,

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<v Speaker 3>and their financial literacy appears to be there is none.

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<v Speaker 2>Emotional intelligence climbs through midlife before tapering off. Based on

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<v Speaker 2>research comparing age groups older adults, this is a financial one.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess older adults are about twice as likely as

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<v Speaker 2>younger adults to avoid the sunk cost fallacy, the habit

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<v Speaker 2>of throwing good money after bad twice as likely at

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<v Speaker 2>like sixty as you would be at thirty. Of understanding,

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<v Speaker 2>now you know this turned out to be a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just move on, as opposed to well, we've come

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<v Speaker 2>this far, we better keep spending more money, right, Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, it's a question of having lived through that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of thing a couple of times and realizing, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 3>is really disappointing, but we have to admit it's a

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<v Speaker 3>loser and move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's interesting that they separate out financial intelligence, where

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<v Speaker 2>it might just be all wisdom there, it's just accumulated

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge and personality also matures with age. Conscientiousness and emotional stability,

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<v Speaker 2>which are the two traits that are most strongly linked

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<v Speaker 2>to career success and life satisfaction according to this study.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say that again. So the two traits

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<v Speaker 2>most strongly linked to career success and life satisfaction. Which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but having a satisfying life

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<v Speaker 2>is way up on my list of priorities.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's ass you kiss? That's the most important thing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not who you know, it's who you beep.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Conscientiousness and emotional stability are the two traits you

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<v Speaker 2>need for life satisfaction. That makes sense. But both increase

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<v Speaker 2>from early adulthood well into your fifties and sixties, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's good. Researchers waited these various dimensions and created a

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<v Speaker 2>composite intex tracking overall functioning and overall functioning peaks between

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five and sixty with clear declines emerging about sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five to seventy. So I got a few years left before,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because I'm barely functioning now, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>few really chairs left before it really starts to crash. Pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't You don't get much time to enjoy your peak,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know? Well, we're not designed to live past that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Really conscientiousness and emotional what was it? Stability? Stability? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Can that be translated as being beaten down or emotional stability?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine, I've been kicked before. Well, there, it is

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<v Speaker 3>true you get emotional stability.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember, God, quite a few years ago, I

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<v Speaker 2>was proud of some reaction I had to something, and

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<v Speaker 2>you you said, it's just because you have lower testosterolully

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<v Speaker 2>admit that, which took all the fun out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is you do also gain emotional stability. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>you think it isn't just low tea because of Again,

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<v Speaker 2>because you've been through these situations before, this isn't the

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<v Speaker 2>first time you've had a boss shoot off about something

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<v Speaker 2>dumb or whatever situation are you, you get something in

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<v Speaker 2>the mail from the tax board that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a pain in the ass. It's not the first time

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<v Speaker 2>any of these things have happens. You don't quite get

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<v Speaker 2>as crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well please if anybody disagrees with this, By the time

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<v Speaker 3>you're playing in your third Super Bowl, you're focused on

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<v Speaker 3>the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You're focused on doing your job and a way you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be the first time. As example, Or think about

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<v Speaker 2>raising kids, the second kid versus the first kid. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>think about shir Yeah, the just the you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>first time your first kid falls down and binks their

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<v Speaker 2>head versus when you get into the second kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're out there, they're fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting back to the testosterone thing, though, what what you

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<v Speaker 3>need to remember, I think, or maybe you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, is that.

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<v Speaker 3>Virtually everything we think, everything we do, is chemicals slashing

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<v Speaker 3>around in our brain and the spark of the divine.

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<v Speaker 3>But and I believe in free will. I believe we

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<v Speaker 3>have a certain amount of control over how we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to react, and you work to develop that. But I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so of course different levels of different chemicals is going

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<v Speaker 3>to affect the way you approach life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's it's obvious, it has to be. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to claim that any any growth I've

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<v Speaker 2>had is not all because I have Lord tip thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, not at all. I would never say

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<v Speaker 2>credit for some growth.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that that discretionary part I was talking

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<v Speaker 3>about that absolutely grows because you've gone through it once

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<v Speaker 3>when you lost your head. You've gone through it another

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<v Speaker 3>time where you didn't lose your head, and you're thinking, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm staying calm again this time. Yeah, and then when

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<v Speaker 3>he leaves for the day, I'll take a poop on his.

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<v Speaker 2>Desk and whatever it takes. Vengeance. Vengeance is fine. A

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<v Speaker 2>little sugar in the gas tank take care of that probably, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>served cold, right, you know what I'm saying. Huh, good

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<v Speaker 2>luck breaking down in the freeway on the that's way

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<v Speaker 2>you hand it. When you get older. The fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you're like super quick thinking cognitive reasoning drops after twenty Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's early in life. Yeah, yeah, so kind of wrapping

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<v Speaker 2>enough studies. Studies cited by the authors show that people

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<v Speaker 2>typically earn their highest salaries and reach peak occupational prestige

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<v Speaker 2>between fifty and fifty five. It's not just because you've

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<v Speaker 2>been around the company for a long time or blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. It's actually when you've got the most accumulated

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge and emotional stability and all those sorts of things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and shirt, you're most likely to do a good job

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<v Speaker 2>at it. Yeah, exactly. Now, the fact, as it says

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<v Speaker 2>here that the leaders of many political countries are in

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<v Speaker 2>their seventies or eighties is not Yeah, these are all

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<v Speaker 2>averages though, of course, I mean just flat out on

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<v Speaker 2>the face of it. Obviously, Donald Trump's brain is different

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<v Speaker 2>than Joe Biden's brain, absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it strikes me that in a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>your tech industries, for instance, your your tech companies, they're

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<v Speaker 3>run by wunderkins, these these young phenoms who are not

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<v Speaker 3>fifty five years old, when they have their greatest success.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that because there is no accumulated knowledge to be

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<v Speaker 3>had in.

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<v Speaker 2>Their fields specific to that field.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, management is management, dealing with people is dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with people. But maybe energy and willingness to work eighty

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<v Speaker 3>hours a week and not being tied to any sort

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<v Speaker 3>of quote unquote accumulated wisdom, maybe that explains it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean because you'd think it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Altman, for instance, would hire a gray haired CEO

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<v Speaker 3>and say, I'll just worry about the innovation stuff. You

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<v Speaker 3>run the company. But that's not the way it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>The fifty five year old CEO would say, what are

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<v Speaker 3>we doing? What's the point of this?

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<v Speaker 5>What is this?

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<v Speaker 3>I keep telling you it's AI AI artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, robots. The fact that my moral compass may

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<v Speaker 2>go south on me and my old age, that's got me,

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<v Speaker 2>uh concerned. I wonder what sort of high jinks I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be up to? How bad could it get?

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<v Speaker 1>and our hot links Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 5>A sheriff's officer in Indiana went into an elementary school

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<v Speaker 5>to jokingly hand out tickets to students using the phrase

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<v Speaker 5>six seven. Everyone had a good laugh, and he pulled

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<v Speaker 5>out his gun and said, now tell me what it means.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a dark joke, but a funny one. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I'm funny. You have to have the cops come to

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<v Speaker 2>the school hanging out tickets for saying six to seven.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, good stuff. They are calling

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<v Speaker 3>it mar A Lago face Jack. Since January, plastic surgeries

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<v Speaker 3>in DC have seen a wave of Trump insiders and

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<v Speaker 3>would be insiders asking for overt procedures in line with

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<v Speaker 3>what they're calling the mara A Lago face look for

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<v Speaker 3>the longest time instic surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Mar A Lago the club where Trump lives down in Florida. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that would that's the one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Most plastic surgeons in Washington, d C, like other places,

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<v Speaker 3>have long gone with the nobody's sure you had anything done,

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<v Speaker 3>You just look good?

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<v Speaker 2>Look well, uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The President Trump is all in on aesthetics and Boulder

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<v Speaker 3>is always better and so uh. People in the inner

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<v Speaker 3>circle and those who would be again are embracing a

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<v Speaker 3>maximalist ethos when it comes to their look. Plastic surgeon

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<v Speaker 3>Troy Pittman is big in DC, I guess works with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of Trump insiders. We're quote, we're seeing people

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<v Speaker 3>want to look like they've had something done.

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<v Speaker 2>He says. I suppose that the logical next step, and

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have to be about mar A Lago. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's been going on in Hollywood all these years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't get it because I was as I

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<v Speaker 2>was saying, how's nobody told you that you took it

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<v Speaker 2>too far? Well, I suppose that when it's been around

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<v Speaker 2>for decades at some point the next logical iteration is

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<v Speaker 2>you want to look like you've had work done because

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<v Speaker 2>it makes you a certain sort of person.

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<v Speaker 3>While all the school beltweers tend to be hashage about

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<v Speaker 3>their tune ups, the Palm Beach crowds all systems go,

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<v Speaker 3>says doctor Pittman. Fillers are big with this crew, especially

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<v Speaker 3>lips as are botox in disport, which I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know about.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see a different DC.

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<v Speaker 3>Politopastic platic surgeon says she's actually turned down a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of people who want that because she just doesn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't this all make sense to me. People

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<v Speaker 2>like me who've never had that done, and run around

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<v Speaker 2>with people who've never had that done. We've been wrong

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<v Speaker 2>all along. They're not trying to fool us. They want to.

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<v Speaker 5>They want to.

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<v Speaker 2>They want a big statement that says I get work done.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well you're you're half right that, as Nelly Bowls

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<v Speaker 3>writes in the Free Press, the director of his Bigger

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<v Speaker 3>Lips doc and Eyes that Never Shut so it's not

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<v Speaker 3>to miss a thing. Tarantula lashes charcoal, smear it on

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<v Speaker 3>your lids. Everyone dresses to please the king, even if

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<v Speaker 3>the royal aesthetic is if Poltergeist were an escort anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But then this other DC plastic surgeon who does subtle

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<v Speaker 3>stuff says.

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<v Speaker 2>That these people.

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<v Speaker 3>Want extra fillers and injections on top of already treated faces,

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<v Speaker 3>which can be dangerous. She says it's a situation she

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<v Speaker 3>calls filler blind. If you add more and more product

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<v Speaker 3>to your face and are surrounded by people who do

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<v Speaker 3>the same, you lose sight of anatomic normalcy. Clearly that

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<v Speaker 3>is true. So no, they don't want you to know

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<v Speaker 3>it necessarily. They've just completely lost track of what's normal

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<v Speaker 3>and what looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. If I could get a little something done without

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<v Speaker 2>anybody noticing that, I would absolutely do it.

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<v Speaker 3>The fellas are in line too, Jack looking for a

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<v Speaker 3>botox liposuction and the suction and eyelid rejuvenation. It's Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Hegsat's Washington. Now you got a young fit and.

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<v Speaker 4>Hands, Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show,

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<v Speaker 4>The Armstrong and Getdy Show.

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<v Speaker 6>Wikipedia said that traffic to their site is falling because

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<v Speaker 6>people are using AI instead, and AI said the same

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<v Speaker 6>thing slightly reworded it inside of them as a source.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty clever, actually, that's pretty clear. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So the way we see our jobs around here, speaking

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<v Speaker 3>for myself is yeah, we bring you news of the

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<v Speaker 3>day and our thoughts, but we're also curators of you know, ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>I that's the most fun part of the job for

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<v Speaker 3>me is reading all day long and trying to find

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<v Speaker 3>the best ideas and bring them to you. Sometimes there

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<v Speaker 3>are sometimes they're not. And I came across that's the

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<v Speaker 3>way you describe our jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more of a lavishly paid to blather on barely

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what I'm talking about. Oh that's your special charm.

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<v Speaker 3>I came across this great piece by author Helen Andrews,

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<v Speaker 3>and a number of our more student listeners have centered

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<v Speaker 3>along saying in sn OMG, have you guys seen this?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a little longer than something we would generally

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<v Speaker 3>read to you, but it is so good and I

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<v Speaker 3>think so important it's worth it. It's entitled The Great Feminization.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's a disclaimer real quickly, because, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a happily married guy who I love and respect my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two daughters. My mom is a saint. Blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>Women in women, womanhood are essential to the functioning of mankind.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a great believer in balance. People who ask

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<v Speaker 3>me about politics, I always tell them, Look, I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>really conservative conservative, but I believe we need navy seales

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<v Speaker 3>and poets for society to work. For the world to work,

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<v Speaker 3>we need men and women, the masculine, the effeminate. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the way we're made by God or creation or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Having said that, the great feminization Helen Andrews and Jack

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<v Speaker 3>obviously dive in whenever you want. In twenty nineteen, she writes,

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<v Speaker 3>I read an article about Larry Summers and Harvard that

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<v Speaker 3>change the way I look at the world. The author

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<v Speaker 3>argued that the day Larry Summers resigned as president of

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<v Speaker 3>Harvard University marked a turning point in our culture. We

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<v Speaker 3>entire a lot at the time. Oh yeah, the entire

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<v Speaker 3>and she explains exactly what happened. If you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>remember what happened, the entire woke era could be extrapolated

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<v Speaker 3>from that moment. From the details of how Summers was

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<v Speaker 3>canceled and most of all who did the canceling women.

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<v Speaker 3>The basic facts of the Summer's case are familiar. January fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty oh five, at a conference on diversifying the science

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<v Speaker 3>and engineering workforce, Larry Summers gave a talk that was

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be off the record. In it, he said

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<v Speaker 3>that female under representation and hard sciences was partly due

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<v Speaker 3>to quote different availability of aptitude at the high end,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as taste difference as preferences between men and

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<v Speaker 3>women not attributable to socialization, meaning dudes just tend to xxct.

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<v Speaker 3>Some female professors and attendants were offended and sent his

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<v Speaker 3>remarks to a reporter in defiance of the off the

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<v Speaker 3>record rule. The ensuing scandal led to a no confidence

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<v Speaker 3>vote by the Harvard faculty and eventually Summer's resignation. The

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<v Speaker 3>essay argued that it wasn't just that women had canceled

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<v Speaker 3>the president of Harvard. It was that they'd canceled him

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<v Speaker 3>in a very feminine way. They made emotional appeals rather

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<v Speaker 3>than logical arguments.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>When he started talking about innate differences and aptitudes between

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<v Speaker 3>men and women, I just couldn't breathe, because this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of bias makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Me physically ill.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, said Nancy Hopkins, a biologist at MIT.

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<v Speaker 3>Summers made a public statement clarifying his remarks, and then another,

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<v Speaker 3>and then a third, with the apology more insistent each time.

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<v Speaker 3>Experts chimed in to declare that everything Somers had said

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<v Speaker 3>about sex differences was within the scientific mainstream. These rational

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<v Speaker 3>appeals had no effect on the mob hysteria. This cancelation

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<v Speaker 3>was feminine, the essay argued, because all cancelations are feminine.

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<v Speaker 3>Cancel culture is simply what women do when there are

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<v Speaker 3>enough of them in a given organization or field. That

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<v Speaker 3>is the great feminization thesis, which the same author later

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<v Speaker 3>elaborated on at book length. Everything you think of as

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<v Speaker 3>wokeness is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization.

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<v Speaker 2>I like where this is. I like where this is going.

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<v Speaker 3>The explanatory power of this simple thesis was incredible. It

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<v Speaker 3>really did unlock the secrets of the era we were

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<v Speaker 3>living in. Here's the point I disagree with. Wokeness is

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<v Speaker 3>not a new ideology, an outgrowth of Marxism, or a

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<v Speaker 3>result of post Obama disillusionment. It is simply feminine patterns

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<v Speaker 3>of behavior applied to institutions where women were few in

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<v Speaker 3>number until recently.

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<v Speaker 2>How did I not see it before?

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<v Speaker 3>My disagreement with the Marxism point is that Michelle Foucaut,

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<v Speaker 3>who's really the godfather of critical theory and neo Marxism,

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<v Speaker 3>he understood human nature and he understood how making an

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<v Speaker 3>emotional moral argument could get people to ignore facts. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why they're so intent on getting you to say a

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<v Speaker 3>man can give birth to a baby. Because if you

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<v Speaker 3>can be pried away from logic and rely on pure

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<v Speaker 3>emotion and what the crowd says you should say, then

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<v Speaker 3>they've gotcha. So this is not divorced from Marxism, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just another layer of it. But anyway, on with the essay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's see. Then she mentions a couple of firsts people

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<v Speaker 3>think about the feminization of like the first woman to

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<v Speaker 3>attend law school in eighteen sixty nine, first woman to

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<v Speaker 3>argue before the Supreme Court in eighteen eighty, first female

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court justice nineteen eighty one. But she says a

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<v Speaker 3>much more important tipping point is when law schools became

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<v Speaker 3>majority female, which occurred in twenty sixteen, or when law

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<v Speaker 3>firms associated became majority female, which occurred in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 3>when Sandrade O'Connor was appointed to the High Court, only

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<v Speaker 3>five percent of judges were female. Today, women are thirty

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<v Speaker 3>three percent of the judges in America and sixty three

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the judges appointed by President Biden sixty three percent.

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<v Speaker 3>The same trajectory can be seen in many professions, pioneering

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<v Speaker 3>generations women in the sixties and seventies, increasing female representative

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<v Speaker 3>representation through the eighties and nineties, and gender par parody

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<v Speaker 3>finally arriving in twenty tens or twenty twenties. For instance,

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen seventy four or only ten percent of New

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<v Speaker 3>York Times reporters were female. The New York Times staff

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<v Speaker 3>became majority female in twenty eighteen, and today the female

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<v Speaker 3>share is fifty five percent. Medical schools became majority female

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen. Women became a majority of the college

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<v Speaker 3>educated workforce nationwide. In twenty nineteen, women became a majority

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<v Speaker 3>of college instructors in twenty twenty three. Women are not

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<v Speaker 3>yet a majority of the managers in America, but they

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<v Speaker 3>might be soon. They're now forty six percent. So the

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<v Speaker 3>timing fits Wokeness arose around the same time that many

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<v Speaker 3>important institutions tip tip demographically from majority male to majority female.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so what you're saying, here's here's what she means.

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<v Speaker 3>The substance fits too. Everything you think of wokeness involves

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<v Speaker 3>prioritizing the feminine over the masculine, empathy over rationality, safety

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<v Speaker 3>over risk, cohesion over competition. Give you a second to

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<v Speaker 3>absorb that. One hundred percent right, one hundred percent right,

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<v Speaker 3>and one hundred percent right. Those are all real interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Other writers have proposed their own versions of the great feminization.

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<v Speaker 3>She drops a few names who looked at feminization's effect

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<v Speaker 3>on academia, offers survey data showing sex differences in political values.

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<v Speaker 3>One survey, for instance, found that seventy one percent of

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<v Speaker 3>men said protecting free speech was more important than preserving

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<v Speaker 3>a cohesive society. Whatever that means seventy one percent of men,

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<v Speaker 3>sixty percent of women said the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't surprise me, and as a for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>it popped into my head. You was talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>when women got involved in youth sports, how it changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we got uniforms at every age, and lots of

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<v Speaker 2>team pictures and lots of ceremonies ceremonies and stuff. Yeah, yeah, anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she issues a disclaimer, which probably isn't necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>But the most relevant differences are not about individuals but

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<v Speaker 3>about groups. Yes, an individual woman might be taller than

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<v Speaker 3>an individual man, but a group of ten random women

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<v Speaker 3>is very unlikely to have an average height greater than

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<v Speaker 3>that of ten men. The larger the group of the people,

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<v Speaker 3>the more likely it is to conform to statistical averages.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, you independent thinking, free speech loving women out there,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not about you. It's not about individuals, it's about

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<v Speaker 3>in large groups, tendencies become more and more true.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>The female group dynamics favor consensus and cooperation. Men order

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<v Speaker 3>each other around, but women can only suggest and persuade.

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<v Speaker 3>Any criticism or negative sentiment if it is absolutely to

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<v Speaker 3>be expressed, needs to be buried in layers of compliments.

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<v Speaker 3>The outcome of a discussion is less important than the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that a discussion was held and everyone participated in it.

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<v Speaker 3>The most important sex difference. The most important sex difference

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<v Speaker 3>in group dynamics is attitude to conflict. In short, men

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<v Speaker 3>wage conflict openly, while women covertly undermine or ostracize their enemies.

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<v Speaker 3>Any ladies like to disagree with that, Katie, feel free

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<v Speaker 3>to jump.

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<v Speaker 2>In if you like. Okay, do women that ostracize their

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<v Speaker 2>enemies as opposed to confronting them openly and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a problem. We need to settle this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>Barry Weiss, in her letter of resignation from The New

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<v Speaker 3>York Times, described how colleagues referred to her in internal

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<v Speaker 3>slack messages as a racist, a nazi, and a bigot.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the most feminine part quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Colleagues perceived to be friendly with me were badgered by coworkers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she said, he resignation. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Weiss wants asked a colleague at the Times opinion desk

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<v Speaker 3>to get coffee with her. This journalist, a biracial woman

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<v Speaker 3>who wrote frequently about race, refused to meet. This was

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<v Speaker 3>a failure to meet the basic standards of professionalism, obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>It was also very feminine. Men tend to be better

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<v Speaker 3>at compartmentalizing than women, and wokeness was in many ways

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<v Speaker 3>a society wide failure to compartmentalize. Listen to this. This

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<v Speaker 3>is another blockbuster point. Traditionally, an individual doctor might have

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<v Speaker 3>opinions on the political issues the day, but he would

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<v Speaker 3>regard it as his professional duty to keep those opinions

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<v Speaker 3>out of the examination room. Now that medicine has become

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<v Speaker 3>more feminized, doctors wear pins and lanyards expressing views on

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<v Speaker 3>controversial issues, from gay rights to gaza. They even bring

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<v Speaker 3>the credibility of their profession to bear on political fads,

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<v Speaker 3>as when doctors said Black Lives Matter protests could continue

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<v Speaker 3>in violation of COVID lockdowns because racism was a public

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<v Speaker 3>health emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>You're nodding your head, Gati. You've been in a hospital

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<v Speaker 2>situations a lot more than us lately. You've seen that.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, I've seen it. You know the little lanyards

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<v Speaker 7>where they it's like their key to the doors. They

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<v Speaker 7>all have the different little trinkets with you know, rainbows,

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<v Speaker 7>and I saw Palestinian flag recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dudes wouldn't have done that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, one more note and then we will take a break.

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<v Speaker 3>One book that helped me put together the pieces was

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<v Speaker 3>Warriors and Warriors The Survival of the Sexes by psychology

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<v Speaker 3>professor Joyce Beninson. Practically all of the scientists cite in

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<v Speaker 3>this article are women. By the way, it's worth pointing

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<v Speaker 3>out I think she theorizes that men developed dynamics optimized

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<v Speaker 3>for war, while women developed group dynamics optimized for protecting

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<v Speaker 3>their offspring. These habits, formed in the mists of prehistory,

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<v Speaker 3>explain why experimenters in modern psychology labs in a study

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<v Speaker 3>the Barons and Sites observe that a group of men

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<v Speaker 3>given a task will quote, jockey for talking time, disagree loudly,

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<v Speaker 3>and then cheerfully relate a solution to the experimenter. A

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<v Speaker 3>group of women given the same task will quote politely,

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<v Speaker 3>inquire about one another's personal background and relationships, accompanied by

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<v Speaker 3>much eye contact, smiling, and turn taking, and pay quote

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<v Speaker 3>little attention to the task that the experimenter presented. The

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<v Speaker 3>point of war is to settle disputes between two tribes,

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<v Speaker 3>but it only works if peace is restored after the

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<v Speaker 3>dispute is settled. Men therefore develop methods for reconciling with

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<v Speaker 3>the proonent opponents, and learning to live in.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace with people they were fighting yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Females, even in primate species, are slower to reconcile than males.

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<v Speaker 3>That is because because women's conflicts were traditionally within the

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<v Speaker 3>tribe over scarce resources to be resolved not by open conflict,

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<v Speaker 3>but by covert competition with rivals with no clear end.

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<v Speaker 3>All of these observations match my observations of wokeness, but

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<v Speaker 3>soon the happy thrill of discovering a new theory eventually

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<v Speaker 3>gave way to a sinking feeling. If wokeness really is

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<v Speaker 3>the result of the Great feminization, then the eruption of

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<v Speaker 3>insanity in twenty twenty was just a small taste of

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<v Speaker 3>what the future holds. Imagine what will happen is the

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<v Speaker 3>remaining men age out of these society shaping professions and

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<v Speaker 3>the younger, more feminized generations take full control.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm always saying that when we're all dead

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<v Speaker 2>who remember them before times, there won't be anybody around

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<v Speaker 2>to say, hey, it didn't used to be like this.

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah more Jack your show.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcasts and our hot lakes.

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<v Speaker 4>The Armstrong and Yetty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>So perhaps you would like to leave a flaming bag

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<v Speaker 3>of dog experiments on your neighbor front porch, but you

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<v Speaker 3>lack such an item. You could go with Randy Weingarten's

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<v Speaker 3>new book instead, Why Fascists Fear Teachers, Public Education, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Future of Democracy. If there was ever a flaming

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<v Speaker 3>bag of dog crap sold as a book. This is

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<v Speaker 3>it Why fascists fear teachers? Who are these fascists? We'll

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<v Speaker 3>get to that in a moment. So obviously the title

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<v Speaker 3>is designed to be eye catching and attract readers, but

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<v Speaker 3>by now, as this review puts it, the word fascist

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<v Speaker 3>is thrown around routinely. The book's title, Public Education the

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<v Speaker 3>Future Democracy is more significant deceptive. The book's purported intention

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<v Speaker 3>is to argue for public school's crucial role in our

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<v Speaker 3>democratic society, but it offers very little in the way

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<v Speaker 3>of education policy or ideas that would truly benefit teachers

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<v Speaker 3>or God forbids students.

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<v Speaker 2>The random aim, yes, Randy Weingarten played the major role

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<v Speaker 2>in keeping the schools closed during the pandemic, for instance, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, the American Federation of Teachers president for years

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<v Speaker 2>and years and years. The real aim is made clear.

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<v Speaker 3>It devotes most of its pages to attacking her political opponents,

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<v Speaker 3>especially especially supporters of school choice, and defending the interests

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<v Speaker 3>of the American Federation.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Teachers, her big rich union.

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<v Speaker 3>She starts out claiming ninety percent of American kids attend

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<v Speaker 3>public schools. Not so fast, it was a little over

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<v Speaker 3>eighty one percent four years ago at the beginning of COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>So and that's before the expansion of universal school choice

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<v Speaker 3>in states like Texas and New Hampshire. Half of American

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<v Speaker 3>children now have access to school choice. So the number

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<v Speaker 3>is far far lower than the ninety percent she claims.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's appropriate the book would start off with lies.

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<v Speaker 2>As it continues.

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<v Speaker 3>In that vein, Winingarden characterizes the school choice movement as

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<v Speaker 3>a conspiracy organized by Christopher Rufo, Moms for Liberty, and

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<v Speaker 3>other hard right wing activists. Quote a plot to destroy

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<v Speaker 3>public education. Yeah, I'd be all for that based on

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<v Speaker 3>where it right now, you know, honestly, Yeah, I see

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<v Speaker 3>your point. The real drivers of the choice movement, they

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<v Speaker 3>point out, however, her parents like Virginia olden Ford, a black,

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<v Speaker 3>low income other in Washington, DC who grew frustrated watching

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<v Speaker 3>her sons struggle in public school and help create the

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<v Speaker 3>DC Opportunity Scholarship Program, the nation's first federally funded voucher initiative.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, she's a conspiracy Not sure, Randy, let's see

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<v Speaker 3>Winngartan also insists that vouchers are devised by whites to

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<v Speaker 3>undermine desegregation. Oh, it's racism, probably systemic racism. This isn't

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<v Speaker 3>just wrong, it gets the history completely backward. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>some teachers' unions fought against vouchers because they facilitated integration.

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<v Speaker 3>Wygarten claims she is quote willing to work with anyone

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<v Speaker 3>who wants to actually address the problems facing our public schools,

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<v Speaker 3>but she refuses to engage with school choice advocates who

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<v Speaker 3>propose concrete and constructive options for students underserved by traditional

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<v Speaker 3>school districts. Then she denigrates religious schools whose very purpose

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<v Speaker 3>is in doctrination, that's a quote. This animus causes her

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<v Speaker 3>to overlook the many advantages of faith based education, such

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<v Speaker 3>as the Catholic school effect, which has been demonstrated to

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<v Speaker 3>benefit disadvantage minority students in particular, has to do with

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<v Speaker 3>high expectations and discipline and that sort of thing. The

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<v Speaker 3>biggest deception in Windgarten's book is her portrayal of her

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<v Speaker 3>role Jackie loved this during the pandemic, I quote I

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<v Speaker 3>led the AFT in developing a concrete plan to reopen

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<v Speaker 3>schools as quickly and safely as possible. When, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>Winegotten and her union colleagues kept children American children out

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<v Speaker 3>of schools until the government approved her request for a

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred and fifty billion dollar federal age package federal

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<v Speaker 3>aid package to feather their nest and hire more administrations

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<v Speaker 3>and more union members. Unbelievable. The book is primarily an

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<v Speaker 3>attempt to rehabilitate Winegarten's image after she backed the longest

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<v Speaker 3>school closures in American history, which yielded the largest drop

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<v Speaker 3>in student performance ever recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention the emotional turmoil.

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<v Speaker 3>And she mentions the Aforah mentioned fascists like ourselves in

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<v Speaker 3>her title replace facts and critical thinking with propaganda that

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<v Speaker 3>romanticizes the nation's past. No, absolutely obscene. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta apologize to flaming bags of dog crap comparing them.

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<v Speaker 2>To this book. It's insulting. Yeah, that's really maddening. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this a lot, and I hate her

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Do you think she actually believes she's doing

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing for kids or did she abandon that

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<v Speaker 2>a long time ago. I don't. She couldn't. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way she possibly thought keeping the schools closed

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<v Speaker 2>was the best thing for the kids. Not a chance

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<v Speaker 2>she actually believed that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now unless her own evil in her need to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>explain it has perverted her own mind to the point

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<v Speaker 3>that she can't recognize truth. She's like, oh, J Simpson

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<v Speaker 3>who thought he didn't kill his wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what a horrifying human being.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Armstrong and Getty