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Speaker 2: Now enjoy the Armstrong and Geddy replay. We talked about

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Speaker 2: this a little bit earlier, but I want to get

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Speaker 2: into more of the specifics because I find this really interesting.

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Speaker 2: The headline sort of hides a lot of the really

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Speaker 2: good stuff. The headline being that you reach your functional

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Speaker 2: peak as a human later than they had previously thought.

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Speaker 2: Now functional functional is what we're going to get into

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Speaker 2: defining here that word as they use sixteen different dimensions.

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Speaker 2: This is a serious, like university study. This is not

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Speaker 2: I don't know so many studies and you should look

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Speaker 2: out for this. It's fun to talk about him. So

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Speaker 2: many studies that you hear that are you know it

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Speaker 2: turns out, you know it's paid for by the pudding corporation,

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Speaker 2: and it turns out you'd be better off eating more

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Speaker 2: pudding in your life or whatever, right exactly, Just dumb

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. But it turns out that people reach

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Speaker 2: their functional peak in their late fifties early sixties, decades

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Speaker 2: later than most people assume when you figure in all

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Speaker 2: these different things. So physical strength obviously, and certain cognitive

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Speaker 2: abilities like processing speed decline steadily after your mid twenties,

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Speaker 2: and I think we all canna test. Yes, if you're

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Speaker 2: past your mid twenties, you're aware of that, But a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of other things you get stronger at for

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Speaker 2: quite some time, but they all diminish it eventually. Intelligence, personality,

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Speaker 2: emotional intelligence, decision making, overall functioning continues developing through midlife,

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Speaker 2: reaching its apex at around sixty years old. A twenty

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Speaker 2: five year old can process information faster, hold more items

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Speaker 2: quickly than someone decades older. So that stuff, you're better

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Speaker 2: at twenty five than you are later. And that's who

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Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, I finally had to give in

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Speaker 2: just I could remember everything I needed to do and

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Speaker 2: while and then it until it didn't. Fluid intelligence, because

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Fluid intelligence, the ability to think on your

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Speaker 2: feet and solve novel program problems, peaks at twenty and

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Speaker 2: declines after that. Wow, isn't that something? Huh? Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: probably good for you know a lot of your military

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Speaker 2: age people and the kind of decisions they got to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, there's a lot to this. Yeah, other terms

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Speaker 2: Other advantages emerge with age that younger adults haven't had

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Speaker 2: time to develop. Crystallized intelligence, which is not a term

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Speaker 2: rising well until your sixties, right that you can call

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Speaker 2: it wisdom if you wanted to. Financial literacy for some

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Speaker 2: beyond that, it goes beyond other kinds of inteligence, and

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Speaker 2: that's something. Yeah, But then dig this one. Moral reasoning,

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Speaker 2: late in life. It's all rob a bank and have

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Speaker 2: in life you're a little late in life. I think

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Speaker 3: Well guilty, Yeah, is this thing true? I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: interesting that they came up with different terms, or more

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Speaker 3: maybe that's why so many old people say whatever's on

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Speaker 2: eighty year olds running the country? Oh? On some of these,

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Speaker 3: I got a bunch of old guys running the country,

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Speaker 3: and their financial literacy appears to be there is none.

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Speaker 2: Emotional intelligence climbs through midlife before tapering off. Based on

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Speaker 2: research comparing age groups older adults, this is a financial one.

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Speaker 2: younger adults to avoid the sunk cost fallacy, the habit

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Speaker 2: like sixty as you would be at thirty. Of understanding,

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Speaker 2: now you know this turned out to be a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: Let's just move on, as opposed to well, we've come

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Speaker 3: Again, it's a question of having lived through that sort

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting that they separate out financial intelligence, where

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Speaker 2: it might just be all wisdom there, it's just accumulated

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Speaker 2: knowledge and personality also matures with age. Conscientiousness and emotional stability,

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Speaker 2: which are the two traits that are most strongly linked

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but having a satisfying life

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Speaker 3: Who's ass you kiss? That's the most important thing. It's

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Speaker 2: Wow, Conscientiousness and emotional stability are the two traits you

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Speaker 2: need for life satisfaction. That makes sense. But both increase

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Speaker 2: Really conscientiousness and emotional what was it? Stability? Stability? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Can that be translated as being beaten down or emotional stability?

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Speaker 3: true you get emotional stability.

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Speaker 2: But I remember, God, quite a few years ago, I

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Speaker 2: But there is you do also gain emotional stability. Don't

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Speaker 2: you think it isn't just low tea because of Again,

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Speaker 2: because you've been through these situations before, this isn't the

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Speaker 2: first time you've had a boss shoot off about something

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Speaker 3: Well please if anybody disagrees with this, By the time

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Speaker 3: you're playing in your third Super Bowl, you're focused on

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Speaker 2: You're focused on doing your job and a way you

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Speaker 3: Getting back to the testosterone thing, though, what what you

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Speaker 3: need to remember, I think, or maybe you don't.

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Speaker 3: Virtually everything we think, everything we do, is chemicals slashing

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Speaker 3: But and I believe in free will. I believe we

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Speaker 2: That's it's it's obvious, it has to be. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to claim that any any growth I've

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that that discretionary part I was talking

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Speaker 3: about that absolutely grows because you've gone through it once

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it strikes me that in a lot of

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Speaker 3: I mean, management is management, dealing with people is dealing

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Speaker 3: One survey, for instance, found that seventy one percent of

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Speaker 3: men said protecting free speech was more important than preserving

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Speaker 3: a cohesive society. Whatever that means seventy one percent of men,

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Speaker 3: sixty percent of women said the opposite.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me, and as a for some reason,

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Speaker 2: it popped into my head. You was talking about how

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Speaker 2: when women got involved in youth sports, how it changed.

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Speaker 2: Then we got uniforms at every age, and lots of

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Speaker 2: team pictures and lots of ceremonies ceremonies and stuff. Yeah, yeah, anyway.

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Speaker 3: And then she issues a disclaimer, which probably isn't necessary.

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Speaker 3: But the most relevant differences are not about individuals but

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Speaker 3: about groups. Yes, an individual woman might be taller than

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Speaker 3: an individual man, but a group of ten random women

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Speaker 3: is very unlikely to have an average height greater than

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Speaker 3: that of ten men. The larger the group of the people,

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Speaker 3: the more likely it is to conform to statistical averages.

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Speaker 3: So again, you independent thinking, free speech loving women out there,

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Speaker 3: it's not about you. It's not about individuals, it's about

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Speaker 3: in large groups, tendencies become more and more true.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: The female group dynamics favor consensus and cooperation. Men order

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Speaker 3: each other around, but women can only suggest and persuade.

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Speaker 3: Any criticism or negative sentiment if it is absolutely to

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Speaker 3: be expressed, needs to be buried in layers of compliments.

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Speaker 3: The outcome of a discussion is less important than the

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Speaker 3: fact that a discussion was held and everyone participated in it.

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Speaker 3: The most important sex difference. The most important sex difference

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Speaker 3: in group dynamics is attitude to conflict. In short, men

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Speaker 3: wage conflict openly, while women covertly undermine or ostracize their enemies.

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Speaker 3: Any ladies like to disagree with that, Katie, feel free

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Speaker 3: to jump.

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Speaker 2: In if you like. Okay, do women that ostracize their

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Speaker 2: enemies as opposed to confronting them openly and saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: we have a problem. We need to settle this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: Barry Weiss, in her letter of resignation from The New

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Speaker 3: York Times, described how colleagues referred to her in internal

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Speaker 3: slack messages as a racist, a nazi, and a bigot.

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Speaker 2: And this is the most feminine part quote.

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Speaker 3: Colleagues perceived to be friendly with me were badgered by coworkers.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she said, he resignation. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Weiss wants asked a colleague at the Times opinion desk

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Speaker 3: to get coffee with her. This journalist, a biracial woman

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Speaker 3: who wrote frequently about race, refused to meet. This was

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Speaker 3: a failure to meet the basic standards of professionalism, obviously.

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Speaker 3: It was also very feminine. Men tend to be better

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Speaker 3: at compartmentalizing than women, and wokeness was in many ways

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Speaker 3: a society wide failure to compartmentalize. Listen to this. This

482
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: is another blockbuster point. Traditionally, an individual doctor might have

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Speaker 3: opinions on the political issues the day, but he would

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Speaker 3: regard it as his professional duty to keep those opinions

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Speaker 3: out of the examination room. Now that medicine has become

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Speaker 3: more feminized, doctors wear pins and lanyards expressing views on

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Speaker 3: controversial issues, from gay rights to gaza. They even bring

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Speaker 3: the credibility of their profession to bear on political fads,

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Speaker 3: as when doctors said Black Lives Matter protests could continue

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Speaker 3: in violation of COVID lockdowns because racism was a public

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Speaker 3: health emergency.

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Speaker 2: You're nodding your head, Gati. You've been in a hospital

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Speaker 2: situations a lot more than us lately. You've seen that.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I've seen it. You know the little lanyards

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Speaker 7: where they it's like their key to the doors. They

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Speaker 7: all have the different little trinkets with you know, rainbows,

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Speaker 7: and I saw Palestinian flag recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dudes wouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 3: Now, one more note and then we will take a break.

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Speaker 3: One book that helped me put together the pieces was

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Speaker 3: Warriors and Warriors The Survival of the Sexes by psychology

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Speaker 3: professor Joyce Beninson. Practically all of the scientists cite in

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Speaker 3: this article are women. By the way, it's worth pointing

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Speaker 3: out I think she theorizes that men developed dynamics optimized

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Speaker 3: for war, while women developed group dynamics optimized for protecting

506
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Speaker 3: their offspring. These habits, formed in the mists of prehistory,

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Speaker 3: explain why experimenters in modern psychology labs in a study

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Speaker 3: the Barons and Sites observe that a group of men

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Speaker 3: given a task will quote, jockey for talking time, disagree loudly,

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Speaker 3: and then cheerfully relate a solution to the experimenter. A

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Speaker 3: group of women given the same task will quote politely,

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Speaker 3: inquire about one another's personal background and relationships, accompanied by

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00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: much eye contact, smiling, and turn taking, and pay quote

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Speaker 3: little attention to the task that the experimenter presented. The

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Speaker 3: point of war is to settle disputes between two tribes,

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Speaker 3: but it only works if peace is restored after the

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Speaker 3: dispute is settled. Men therefore develop methods for reconciling with

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Speaker 3: the proonent opponents, and learning to live in.

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Speaker 2: Peace with people they were fighting yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Females, even in primate species, are slower to reconcile than males.

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Speaker 3: That is because because women's conflicts were traditionally within the

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Speaker 3: tribe over scarce resources to be resolved not by open conflict,

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Speaker 3: but by covert competition with rivals with no clear end.

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Speaker 3: All of these observations match my observations of wokeness, but

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00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: soon the happy thrill of discovering a new theory eventually

526
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: gave way to a sinking feeling. If wokeness really is

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Speaker 3: the result of the Great feminization, then the eruption of

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Speaker 3: insanity in twenty twenty was just a small taste of

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Speaker 3: what the future holds. Imagine what will happen is the

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Speaker 3: remaining men age out of these society shaping professions and

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Speaker 3: the younger, more feminized generations take full control.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm always saying that when we're all dead

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Speaker 2: who remember them before times, there won't be anybody around

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Speaker 2: to say, hey, it didn't used to be like this.

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah more Jack your show.

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Speaker 1: Podcasts and our hot lakes.

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Speaker 4: The Armstrong and Yetty Show.

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Speaker 3: So perhaps you would like to leave a flaming bag

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00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: of dog experiments on your neighbor front porch, but you

541
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Speaker 3: lack such an item. You could go with Randy Weingarten's

542
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: new book instead, Why Fascists Fear Teachers, Public Education, and

543
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Speaker 3: the Future of Democracy. If there was ever a flaming

544
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: bag of dog crap sold as a book. This is

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00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: it Why fascists fear teachers? Who are these fascists? We'll

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00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: get to that in a moment. So obviously the title

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00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: is designed to be eye catching and attract readers, but

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: by now, as this review puts it, the word fascist

549
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: is thrown around routinely. The book's title, Public Education the

550
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: Future Democracy is more significant deceptive. The book's purported intention

551
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 3: is to argue for public school's crucial role in our

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Speaker 3: democratic society, but it offers very little in the way

553
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Speaker 3: of education policy or ideas that would truly benefit teachers

554
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: or God forbids students.

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Speaker 2: The random aim, yes, Randy Weingarten played the major role

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Speaker 2: in keeping the schools closed during the pandemic, for instance, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the American Federation of Teachers president for years

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Speaker 2: and years and years. The real aim is made clear.

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Speaker 3: It devotes most of its pages to attacking her political opponents,

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Speaker 3: especially especially supporters of school choice, and defending the interests

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Speaker 3: of the American Federation.

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Speaker 2: Of Teachers, her big rich union.

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Speaker 3: She starts out claiming ninety percent of American kids attend

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Speaker 3: public schools. Not so fast, it was a little over

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Speaker 3: eighty one percent four years ago at the beginning of COVID.

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Speaker 3: So and that's before the expansion of universal school choice

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Speaker 3: in states like Texas and New Hampshire. Half of American

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Speaker 3: children now have access to school choice. So the number

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Speaker 3: is far far lower than the ninety percent she claims.

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Speaker 3: So it's appropriate the book would start off with lies.

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Speaker 2: As it continues.

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Speaker 3: In that vein, Winingarden characterizes the school choice movement as

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Speaker 3: a conspiracy organized by Christopher Rufo, Moms for Liberty, and

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Speaker 3: other hard right wing activists. Quote a plot to destroy

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Speaker 3: public education. Yeah, I'd be all for that based on

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Speaker 3: where it right now, you know, honestly, Yeah, I see

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Speaker 3: your point. The real drivers of the choice movement, they

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Speaker 3: point out, however, her parents like Virginia olden Ford, a black,

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Speaker 3: low income other in Washington, DC who grew frustrated watching

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Speaker 3: her sons struggle in public school and help create the

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Speaker 3: DC Opportunity Scholarship Program, the nation's first federally funded voucher initiative.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, she's a conspiracy Not sure, Randy, let's see

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Speaker 3: Winngartan also insists that vouchers are devised by whites to

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Speaker 3: undermine desegregation. Oh, it's racism, probably systemic racism. This isn't

585
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: just wrong, it gets the history completely backward. In fact,

586
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Speaker 3: some teachers' unions fought against vouchers because they facilitated integration.

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00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: Wygarten claims she is quote willing to work with anyone

588
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Speaker 3: who wants to actually address the problems facing our public schools,

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Speaker 3: but she refuses to engage with school choice advocates who

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Speaker 3: propose concrete and constructive options for students underserved by traditional

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Speaker 3: school districts. Then she denigrates religious schools whose very purpose

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00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: is in doctrination, that's a quote. This animus causes her

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Speaker 3: to overlook the many advantages of faith based education, such

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Speaker 3: as the Catholic school effect, which has been demonstrated to

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00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: benefit disadvantage minority students in particular, has to do with

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Speaker 3: high expectations and discipline and that sort of thing. The

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00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: biggest deception in Windgarten's book is her portrayal of her

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Speaker 3: role Jackie loved this during the pandemic, I quote I

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00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: led the AFT in developing a concrete plan to reopen

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Speaker 3: schools as quickly and safely as possible. When, of course,

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Speaker 3: Winegotten and her union colleagues kept children American children out

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Speaker 3: of schools until the government approved her request for a

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Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty billion dollar federal age package federal

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Speaker 3: aid package to feather their nest and hire more administrations

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Speaker 3: and more union members. Unbelievable. The book is primarily an

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Speaker 3: attempt to rehabilitate Winegarten's image after she backed the longest

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Speaker 3: school closures in American history, which yielded the largest drop

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Speaker 3: in student performance ever recorded.

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Speaker 2: Not to mention the emotional turmoil.

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Speaker 3: And she mentions the Aforah mentioned fascists like ourselves in

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: her title replace facts and critical thinking with propaganda that

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00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: romanticizes the nation's past. No, absolutely obscene. You know, I

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: gotta apologize to flaming bags of dog crap comparing them.

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Speaker 2: To this book. It's insulting. Yeah, that's really maddening. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we've talked about this a lot, and I hate her

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Speaker 2: so much. Do you think she actually believes she's doing

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Speaker 2: the right thing for kids or did she abandon that

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Speaker 2: a long time ago. I don't. She couldn't. There's no way.

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Speaker 2: There's no way she possibly thought keeping the schools closed

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Speaker 2: was the best thing for the kids. Not a chance

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Speaker 2: she actually believed that.

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Speaker 3: Now unless her own evil in her need to you know,

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Speaker 3: explain it has perverted her own mind to the point

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Speaker 3: that she can't recognize truth. She's like, oh, J Simpson

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Speaker 3: who thought he didn't kill his wife?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a horrifying human being.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Armstrong and Getty