Speaker 1: This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at
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Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut
Speaker 1: to it. Good do it, Good do it. They're getting
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Speaker 1: questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,
Speaker 1: let's cut to it. You ain't heard them about it?
Speaker 1: Then we're about to let you know. It's all Mary.
Speaker 1: This has been a couple of weeks when I said
Speaker 1: coach Law was not correct. Yes, gee, how you doing
Speaker 1: this afternoon? Brother? I am doing fantastic, man? How about you? Why? Man?
Speaker 1: It's just man. Had a good had a good week,
Speaker 1: had a good weekend. Just try to get some had
Speaker 1: to get some cool downtime, had some time to just
Speaker 1: sit down and watch a movie. And I got a
Speaker 1: chance to watch Remember the Titans. And for me, Remember
Speaker 1: the Titans is my favorite, your favorite, your favorite football movie?
Speaker 1: I love that, your favorite. It's my favorite. I say
Speaker 1: that one and maybe that and maybe any given Sunday,
Speaker 1: but definitely, definitely I think I may give the not
Speaker 1: to remember the times. It's it's special to me shine
Speaker 1: when we were when I was in high school, we
Speaker 1: had a field trip to go see Remember the Titans,
Speaker 1: so we were in the whole movie theater. So even
Speaker 1: even when you remember the very last play when they
Speaker 1: put Red back in the game, they do the they
Speaker 1: do the option play and he scores a touchdown like
Speaker 1: all of us going crazy in it. So that one
Speaker 1: is probably why I say it is my favorite, because
Speaker 1: because it brings back memories for me. I loved the program.
Speaker 1: I saw that when I was when I was in
Speaker 1: whenever came out, I think high school man my dad went.
Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool. I like the The Longest Yard.
Speaker 1: That was good. I like that one. They got a
Speaker 1: couple of them, though. There's you like the newest one,
Speaker 1: of you like the old one. Um, I like the
Speaker 1: newest one, old the old one. So the remake I
Speaker 1: like the old one was a little bit slow. You
Speaker 1: know what else is a slow movie? But everybody loves
Speaker 1: North Dallas for you, that's like an old school movie.
Speaker 1: That's a football movie as well. Um. But the only
Speaker 1: problem I have with like, what's my best football movie?
Speaker 1: Little Giants? There's one part that I loved. I love
Speaker 1: that one annexation Puerto Rico, right, and I love that
Speaker 1: one when um, what's his name, Johnny until there in
Speaker 1: the huddle, he never get the ball, He never get
Speaker 1: the ball. We're gonna give it to John Johnny and
Speaker 1: Johnny Johnny Johnny. Right, So I like that one. But
Speaker 1: for me, I really don't like football movies, to be honest,
Speaker 1: because sometimes either you watch shows or movies, you gotta
Speaker 1: understand some of those movies sometimes take the one off
Speaker 1: story that just like comes out of nowhere that everybody's like,
Speaker 1: does that really happen? And people believe that that's how
Speaker 1: it goes. Not accurate. It's what's the most accurate football
Speaker 1: movie there's there's not one, not even any giving Sunday.
Speaker 1: You didn't believe Bill Bellamy was a wide receiver. M
Speaker 1: that's a great question. L col J isn't running back?
Speaker 1: T was in it in any given Sunday. I think
Speaker 1: he was. I just here's what I say. They don't
Speaker 1: really portray it because even some of the craziest football stories,
Speaker 1: you don't hear them repeating themselves. So people think that
Speaker 1: that's how it goes all the time, like every school
Speaker 1: gets the punishment, every school is cheating. That's not the case.
Speaker 1: And so and because we so much economics and financial
Speaker 1: so much as given to the colleges and everything is
Speaker 1: around football that they believe, you know, the dumb jocks scenario.
Speaker 1: It perpetuates some sterios, too many stereotypes. So that's why
Speaker 1: I don't like it. So if if if there was
Speaker 1: a movie and Steve Smith needed to be in it,
Speaker 1: who who would play Steve Smith? Off top of your head? Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of picky, So I don't know. You got
Speaker 1: you gotta name one. I mean, obviously he's not athletic,
Speaker 1: but why not Denzel? If I don't if I'm gonna swing,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna swing, if I'm swinging for the fences.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Denzel Washington trying to do Steve Smith quotables?
Speaker 1: I think it'd be awesome. Actually, now that if you've
Speaker 1: seen this face, I believe it. I guarantee. All right anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: so let's move on. Yeah, I probably won't have Denzel
Speaker 1: too serious. Hey, who's like us for today? Coming up
Speaker 1: on the cut to a podcast, We've got legendary running
Speaker 1: back La Dainian Tomlinson a K A L T, A
Speaker 1: five time pro bowler and two thousand six is m
Speaker 1: v P. LT played for the Chargers and the Jets
Speaker 1: and has had a statue in Canton since seen l
Speaker 1: T Well, l T, thanks so much for joining Cut
Speaker 1: to a podcast My pleasure. Man, it's it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: good to be on with you guys. Excited about it.
Speaker 1: He appreciate you. So hey, our first segment it's called
Speaker 1: get Iced Up. Their random questions. Smitty has compiled super random,
Speaker 1: super random. You don't know that to be a follow
Speaker 1: up anything. So it's just our version of an icebreaker.
Speaker 1: So LT, get ready to get iced up Smitty, go ahead,
Speaker 1: all right, here you go, LT. Your favorite fruit druice
Speaker 1: drew pints of course. Okay, that's like ten pursue juice
Speaker 1: in there. So it's a whole bunch of all right,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite season and why? Like the season summer, winter, fall,
Speaker 1: that that type of season. I had to I had
Speaker 1: to have it open ended because you never know what
Speaker 1: kind of guests we're gonna have and what the education is. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: and I love basketball season. I don't know what we
Speaker 1: were talking about, but we appreciate it. Bro Uh Man,
Speaker 1: I love fall season for a couple of reasons. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, football guys have been defined as the guys
Speaker 1: of fall. Steve, you have heard that, and you know
Speaker 1: it's a certain smell in the air about fall. Like
Speaker 1: for me. You know when you when you play football
Speaker 1: and play ball your whole life pretty much twenty plus years,
Speaker 1: like you do the same things over and over. You know,
Speaker 1: you have the same smell when it comes to a
Speaker 1: certain time of the year. You know, a certain field
Speaker 1: that you get in a certain time of year. Fall
Speaker 1: from me is always football season. All that smell, you know,
Speaker 1: comes back to me that field that I get. Even now,
Speaker 1: not the field anymore because I'm old now I'm not
Speaker 1: playing anymore, but the smell. Sometimes I go outside in
Speaker 1: the grass, the way it smells in the fall, it
Speaker 1: reminds me of game day sometimes. And so that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons. The other reason is I live in Texas,
Speaker 1: and y'all know it gets real hot in Texas, man,
Speaker 1: especially in the summertime. So right after the summer is
Speaker 1: what it's fall. And so it's perfect golfing season for
Speaker 1: old guy like me. Now I get to play a
Speaker 1: lot of golf in the fall. So fall is my
Speaker 1: favorite season. Okay, what is the first thing you thought
Speaker 1: of this morning when you woke up. What I'm gonna
Speaker 1: feed my kids for breakfast in the full school? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the first thing I thought about, because
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I do. Okay, So what did
Speaker 1: you feed him? Did you cook? Because I actually I
Speaker 1: fed my my, my, my one of my boys who
Speaker 1: was in school the rest of the too in college,
Speaker 1: one graduate college, ones in college. She's living on her own.
Speaker 1: So what did you What did you make? Egg? Whites
Speaker 1: ed whites um, scrabbled with a little sausage in there,
Speaker 1: with some fruit on the side. My daughter loves toast.
Speaker 1: My son doesn't like bread, so one had toast one dinnit.
Speaker 1: What's funny? I And this is wasn't even time correctly,
Speaker 1: I was going backwards when my wife got up this morning,
Speaker 1: she gets up and we have this whole little dialogue.
Speaker 1: It's been going on since the virus has hit. My
Speaker 1: wife is making sure that everyone has their their vitamins.
Speaker 1: So she's all in organic holistic West Coast, which is
Speaker 1: you know, vitamin c uh, you know, having so many
Speaker 1: and me in B and write him in D and
Speaker 1: uh and and she makes her own uh elderberry uh,
Speaker 1: and just all this stuff. And so so we do
Speaker 1: this thing where when she gives me vitamin C. Her
Speaker 1: name is Angie. So I say, I ain't taking vitamin
Speaker 1: C till I get that vitamin every morning. And she
Speaker 1: she literally she says, shere's your vitamins. I said, well, vitamins.
Speaker 1: I don't see no vitamins. And she rose eyes and
Speaker 1: she gave me a kiss. I said, oh, those vitamins.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let me take them right and so but
Speaker 1: she gets up, and so I've had the blessing like you. Um,
Speaker 1: I have my oldest son, Peyton is twenty two, who's
Speaker 1: actually running our social media for cut to It social
Speaker 1: media manager. My daughter's nineteen years old, she's off of
Speaker 1: college and working. And then I have Boston, who's fifteen,
Speaker 1: and then Douce, who six, and so Deuce is still
Speaker 1: sleep but I got up this morning. I made him
Speaker 1: a cheese omelet um hoasts and chicken sausage, and I
Speaker 1: was remembering that I have made breakfast for my kids,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously an off season, but now that I retire,
Speaker 1: I made breakfast for Peyton Bailey, and then I make
Speaker 1: it for Boston, and Boston is gonna be driving next year.
Speaker 1: And I kind of looked at him and said, you know,
Speaker 1: next year, you'll be driving, and I don't have the
Speaker 1: honor of getting up and make you breakfast anymore. He goes, well,
Speaker 1: yeah you do. I said, no, you're driving yourself. No,
Speaker 1: I don't. If you could drive yourself, your own breakfast,
Speaker 1: make your own breakfast. I am not getting up at
Speaker 1: six o'clock because you know, to make breakfast. You it's
Speaker 1: you can't. Just you can't. You can't have bookers in
Speaker 1: your eyes and be making toasts like that's nasty. I
Speaker 1: hope you wipe your face first. Yeah, so just doing that, man,
Speaker 1: I just have, like you, I have the honor to
Speaker 1: just sit there man, and and make breakfast for my kids,
Speaker 1: to sit there. Man. Then we hop up, we hoppen,
Speaker 1: get in the car, put the dog in the car,
Speaker 1: um because wife sleep and the dog, you know, whimper,
Speaker 1: and so just hopping the car and you know, and
Speaker 1: just do that. And it was just an honor show man.
Speaker 1: You you may remember, and I was thinking about that
Speaker 1: that probably this is the last year that I have
Speaker 1: the honor of making the breakfast because I get the
Speaker 1: sleepy and you're lucky but it is an honor, Steve.
Speaker 1: You're right, man, And you know I do the same
Speaker 1: thing every morning. I get up and I made my
Speaker 1: kids breakfast before school. Is just kind of it's kind
Speaker 1: of what I do. And I remember my my dad
Speaker 1: doing those little things like that, um and so I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's like it becomes like a tradition, right,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's the appreciation that you
Speaker 1: see from your kids. Um. And then the other thing
Speaker 1: is helping out around the house. You know, now that
Speaker 1: I'm retired, being able to do things like that around
Speaker 1: the house to help my wife out. You know, she
Speaker 1: don't have to get up all the time because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. You know, my kids right now their
Speaker 1: online class, they're not going to school, so they get
Speaker 1: up in their own computer. Well when when they have
Speaker 1: a question about their work, their school work, they're not
Speaker 1: coming to me, They're coming to their mall. So the
Speaker 1: least I can do is cook breakfast in the morning.
Speaker 1: Be the pe teacher though. I'm oh, yeah, I'll do that.
Speaker 1: I'll do that. We're playing golf and enjoying them. So
Speaker 1: all right, last one, would you rather put a stop
Speaker 1: to war or end world hunger. Um, in world hunger.
Speaker 1: For people to be hungry, that's something that I can't
Speaker 1: stand by and watch. It's hard for me even to see, um,
Speaker 1: you know people you know saying you go to a store.
Speaker 1: There's people sometimes you see out there or the homeless
Speaker 1: and they want something to eat. It's hard for me
Speaker 1: to go into that story and come out with what
Speaker 1: I have in my hand and I give them something
Speaker 1: like I just that always has gotten to me. One
Speaker 1: of the things that I do it at Thanksgiving time
Speaker 1: is I feed you know, families. Um, everything's given. So
Speaker 1: it's something that's always been on my heart. All right,
Speaker 1: we appreciate that man that was breakers there. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's the that's textbook right there to see me. But
Speaker 1: I'm patting myself and yourself. So he gave us some
Speaker 1: bread crumbs, and I think it's going to lead us
Speaker 1: to some to some other stuff. You gave us some
Speaker 1: bread crumbs. Where are you from and the place you
Speaker 1: call your hometown? Wow? Where I consider you know where
Speaker 1: I'm from and my hometown to different places. So where
Speaker 1: I'm from it's actually a small country town. Marlon Rosebud
Speaker 1: and I say, Marlon and Rose Buds because that's where
Speaker 1: my parents originated from, you know, and so obviously I
Speaker 1: originated from there as well. And so my mom was
Speaker 1: born and raised in a small town of Marlin, and
Speaker 1: my dad was born in small town and Rose But
Speaker 1: those two towns are about ten minutes from each other,
Speaker 1: right up the street, right small country towns, and so
Speaker 1: as a kid, I was raised um in those towns,
Speaker 1: running around on those those dirt roads and feeding pigs
Speaker 1: and you know, doing all those things. When I turned
Speaker 1: about I think it was about seven, I moved to
Speaker 1: Waco and for the rest of my life, I grew
Speaker 1: up in Waco. So I considered Waco my hometown because
Speaker 1: that's where I went to high school, that's where I graduated,
Speaker 1: that's where I kind of made my name at I
Speaker 1: as you know. And so yeah that I was say,
Speaker 1: I'm from Marlin and Rosebud, but my hometown it's Waco.
Speaker 1: What would those experience like for you growing up? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: early on I think it was, you know, it was
Speaker 1: real humble beginnings. You know, because when you think about
Speaker 1: small country towns, man, you know, everyone in the town,
Speaker 1: they know you. Um, it's that whole mindset of you
Speaker 1: getting raised by village, right, you know, because your neighbor
Speaker 1: may discipline you sometimes if they see you doing something wrong,
Speaker 1: they're gonna die. Yes, Oh it's old school, no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. And so, um, you know, Wayco was more
Speaker 1: like you know it was, it was bigger, you know
Speaker 1: it was it was. It's a small city, but it
Speaker 1: was bigger. And so I hold on. Explain to us
Speaker 1: when you say humble beginnings. I'm a city boy, you know,
Speaker 1: from so concrete Jungles is considered humble beginnings. Explain smith
Speaker 1: what is you know, Smithy but humble beginning, city folk? Right,
Speaker 1: you got a city folks, Steve, and then my boy Gerard,
Speaker 1: he's uh, I's from North Carolina, He's from X So
Speaker 1: his humble beginners. And you know my you know uh
Speaker 1: other boy and and and booking backstage Joe he's from
Speaker 1: Vegas and Nashville and he actually went to Long Beach State.
Speaker 1: So his humble beginners a city too, right, So I
Speaker 1: don't I need to understand because right now you're slaying
Speaker 1: something in there said feeding pigs. Yeah, I see, I
Speaker 1: thought you. I thought you missed that those early years. Man, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, one through like I think from the time
Speaker 1: I was one through a problem about ten years old.
Speaker 1: When I say humble beginners, I mean, you know, really
Speaker 1: like living the life of feeding pigs, going in the slop,
Speaker 1: you know, going into mud, pigs living a bunch of mud,
Speaker 1: and you know it's just a bunch of it's nasty
Speaker 1: out there, right, and so everything you eat now you
Speaker 1: save it, and that's what they eat. You go out
Speaker 1: there and you you feed the pigs. And then obviously
Speaker 1: where you think we get baking and pork chops and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Bro. So there was times, man. I
Speaker 1: remember my first time saying my my dad and my
Speaker 1: uncle's like, you know, slaughter or goat. Man, it almost
Speaker 1: traumatized me, dude, Like I remember the vision like it
Speaker 1: was yesterday. So me and my younger brother, my dad
Speaker 1: called us around to my uncle's house and we went
Speaker 1: around there and I saw the goat hanging up in
Speaker 1: the tree, and I'm thinking to myself, what are they
Speaker 1: for to do with this goat? You know, you skipping
Speaker 1: over a lot of kiss Keep it simple, Steve, I
Speaker 1: have no idea. You asked the about humble beginners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I want you to walk me through these humble
Speaker 1: beginnings because you said it's traumatized. You went from their
Speaker 1: hanging from the I want to know, like, how did
Speaker 1: he say, Dany come on over there? Hey, boy, get
Speaker 1: over here. We're about to go over Uncle Luke house
Speaker 1: and we're about to get we're about to eat and
Speaker 1: you're gonna work. Hey. It was like this, Uh my mom,
Speaker 1: my dad was already over there, and my mom comes
Speaker 1: to me and my brother and said, hey, your dad
Speaker 1: wants you over your uncle house. Y'all going to walk
Speaker 1: around there for what? He didn't tell me why? You
Speaker 1: just get over there? Yeah, you don't get Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because I know I know he's gonna ask why. And
Speaker 1: she probably popped them upside of the head too. I
Speaker 1: told you by asking me why. Hey, So you know,
Speaker 1: we're going around there and the first thing I see,
Speaker 1: of course, is this goat in the treat and my
Speaker 1: dad and cools there standing around drinking beer of course,
Speaker 1: um and so old milwakee. Y'a don't know no about
Speaker 1: that mist it's two for one with a sticker. That's
Speaker 1: the cheap. That's that cheap next to the bag of
Speaker 1: cheap chips. We're acting a cigarette at the gas station.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm talking about. Slightly, So Steve,
Speaker 1: I had to be about man. I had to be
Speaker 1: about seven years old. And my dad comes over and
Speaker 1: he says, all right, I'm gonna show y'all what well
Speaker 1: we're gonna eat this goal tonight. But I'm gonna show
Speaker 1: y'all how we processing, how we're gonna kill it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get the meat out and then we're gonna cook
Speaker 1: it later on. So this is what you're gonna eat tonight.
Speaker 1: This is how you survive. I'm seven years old, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, don't kill that. Go. I'm like, Dad,
Speaker 1: don't do it, man, don't don't care to go. I
Speaker 1: felt bad for the goal. You know, it's it's yelling.
Speaker 1: It's yelling like those type of experiences they never leave you.
Speaker 1: He didn't say nothing. He said wash this basically, and
Speaker 1: they went over and they they did at me in
Speaker 1: let me just say that, and I cried. I started crying,
Speaker 1: and my dad, you know, he he was just like this,
Speaker 1: this is what being a man is about. This is
Speaker 1: what being a man is about. Stop crying. I'm asking,
Speaker 1: But I assume you didn't eat that goat for dinner.
Speaker 1: I did not know, sir, I did. No, sir, I
Speaker 1: did not eat that go I couldn't. You got a
Speaker 1: whooping for either, Yeah, I probably so. I don't remember
Speaker 1: the whooping. I just remember the goat probably got mad
Speaker 1: that you did. You didn't tough enough. And and he
Speaker 1: saw it. Not when he was doing it, because you cried,
Speaker 1: but he was also doing it. But then that afternoon
Speaker 1: he probably had in his mind, like me and you are,
Speaker 1: that boy better eat that goat. I saw him crying.
Speaker 1: He better suck up them tears and eat that goat.
Speaker 1: If he don't eat that goal, he probably had a
Speaker 1: conversation with your mom. If he don't eat that goal,
Speaker 1: I'm telling hoping his ass and he going. We're going
Speaker 1: straight to his room from the from the dinner table
Speaker 1: to his room. He going to bed. And don't come
Speaker 1: up there and try to help him. Either don't and
Speaker 1: don't get him nothing else. I've been asked for no
Speaker 1: McDonald's cause we ain't got no McDonald's money, no chills,
Speaker 1: not at at that time McDonald's, please man, McDonald's was
Speaker 1: there wasn't no McDonald's within thirty miles of us. That's
Speaker 1: so you didn't eat the go because you was traumatized. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what I ate that night either, but
Speaker 1: I ain't eat that go May about eight. You know,
Speaker 1: I probably ate the vegetables. I'm sure we had like
Speaker 1: greens and mashed potatoes and you know all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: I probably ate the rest of that, but left to
Speaker 1: go a long, I've never eaten a goat mhm this
Speaker 1: day forward, I would never eat to go You know
Speaker 1: some things, man, something's just as a kid. As I said,
Speaker 1: it traumatizes you. You know where you you won't you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to mess with any goats. But you
Speaker 1: know the crazy thing now, Like I'm a I'm a hunter,
Speaker 1: Like I love going hunting for deer as I call
Speaker 1: it buck. I love buck hunting. You know, I love
Speaker 1: hogs going hunting for hogs. But goats, I just you know,
Speaker 1: I leave him alone, man, Let I let him make it.
Speaker 1: We have to take a break and the morning a thing.
Speaker 1: We gotta patient bills. I love cut to it, and
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for. A brother cut to a
Speaker 1: podcast dot com. How to grown up your hometown, impact
Speaker 1: and shape your view on the world today. You know,
Speaker 1: there are certain things that you see when you're young
Speaker 1: that you don't realize. Things like, you know, the school
Speaker 1: that I went too and the Crosstown rival school. You know,
Speaker 1: they they school was was better than ours. They were
Speaker 1: able to build a brand new school during my time
Speaker 1: in high school where we still had this old school
Speaker 1: on my side of town. They were able to build
Speaker 1: a brand new football stadium while I was in school
Speaker 1: where we played on the football field that we had
Speaker 1: to share with another high school. You know. And you
Speaker 1: don't realize these things until you get older and you
Speaker 1: see the disparity sometimes in different communities. Um, but you know,
Speaker 1: when you're growing up, you you you you may do
Speaker 1: with what you have, as you guys know, you don't
Speaker 1: complain about none. You you know, you work for everything
Speaker 1: you you get, and you earn everything you get. But
Speaker 1: when you get older and you're able to see some
Speaker 1: of the disparities in these communities, it shapes you because
Speaker 1: it makes you start a foundation. It makes you want
Speaker 1: to go back into these communities and provide scholarships to
Speaker 1: these kids that are you know, might not be able
Speaker 1: to go to college, or feed people that that need
Speaker 1: dinners and can't feed themselves, things like that. And that's
Speaker 1: how it shaped me um And so I think that's
Speaker 1: the reason why I continue to be heavily involved in
Speaker 1: my community and try to uplift my community because I
Speaker 1: remember what it was like growing up there and even
Speaker 1: to the point where, you know, like the neighborhood obviously
Speaker 1: i'm in now, I see all these educational resources that
Speaker 1: are available for the for the children, the kids in
Speaker 1: this area. But if I go to the south side
Speaker 1: of the the town South Dallas, I don't see any of
Speaker 1: these educational resources programs for for the kids. You know.
Speaker 1: That's what's to me, that's that's a shame, because it's
Speaker 1: still even when I was growing up, it was like that,
Speaker 1: and here it is twenty some years later, thirty years later,
Speaker 1: it's still the same way. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: disparities in our communities. You know, I think people would
Speaker 1: also put it on us athletes to say, well, why
Speaker 1: don't you get your athletic friends and want y'all just
Speaker 1: go ahead and put all your money together and go
Speaker 1: fix the problem. You know, I've we've heard that. I've
Speaker 1: heard that and and seen that obviously on social media
Speaker 1: as well. And they put the responsibility on athletes. But
Speaker 1: yet athletes are just like everybody else. Hell, they take
Speaker 1: of our checks. We we pay taxes, and then the
Speaker 1: taxes are put in areas that sometimes don't even benefit
Speaker 1: the people who needed the most. It's not your owners
Speaker 1: to begin with, right, Well, you're about you're about product
Speaker 1: just because you've got you've got the resources. This it
Speaker 1: should take a collective, you know. It takes a collective
Speaker 1: when people really care. It takes a collective when those
Speaker 1: things impact those communities. Correct, they cross on over to
Speaker 1: your side of the town. It set your front door.
Speaker 1: You think about the people that are in charge that
Speaker 1: make policies and legislation. Um, those people in power, they
Speaker 1: look like the people that are mostly home. Opiois right,
Speaker 1: you know, meaning when there was wrong war on crack
Speaker 1: or war on drugs. When that phrase came out, they
Speaker 1: were talking about the black communities. And so it's hard
Speaker 1: for you to care about someone when you don't know them,
Speaker 1: when you can't see them as your brother, when you
Speaker 1: can't see them as, oh, that's my son or my daughter.
Speaker 1: It's hard for you to have sympathy for somebody like
Speaker 1: that when when you don't know them. And so my
Speaker 1: point is, for the longest, that's why we really need
Speaker 1: to change the whole system. Because the laws were set
Speaker 1: up in the beginning against us, against black folks and
Speaker 1: people of color and brown people. It was set up
Speaker 1: against us. And so now as we go and try
Speaker 1: to change these legislations, people wonder, oh what you got,
Speaker 1: Why are everyone? Why are you trying to change policies
Speaker 1: and legislations. Well, because it never was for us. But
Speaker 1: now we actually have people that care about it, people
Speaker 1: that are in those positions of power, so that we
Speaker 1: can help everyone and minorities and help black and brown people.
Speaker 1: It's a tough thing to talk about, no question about it, man,
Speaker 1: But we gotta be we gotta be real with ourselves.
Speaker 1: We gotta be honest with ourselves. Some of these things
Speaker 1: are happening is because there's no diversity in these different arenas.
Speaker 1: There's not enough diversity ownership level, president's level. That's why
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff has happened. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing people rarely ask you about you, right, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're right, because it's all about the you know, the
Speaker 1: good stories, right um, the football stories, the juicy stories
Speaker 1: that makes people feel good. And sometimes the way you
Speaker 1: were raised and where you're from and how you grew
Speaker 1: up that that doesn't make people feel good. A lot
Speaker 1: of times, it makes people feel guilty and it makes
Speaker 1: them you know, it makes them feel like they you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they did something wrong, which that it's not their fault,
Speaker 1: you know, and like there's no reason to be I
Speaker 1: try to tell people this all the time now, you know,
Speaker 1: like he can't be mad at at the culture today,
Speaker 1: Like I'm so proud of of what these young kids
Speaker 1: are doing. But my high school was was pretty much
Speaker 1: it was like split down the middle of blacks and Mexicans,
Speaker 1: you know, like probably blacks, you know, forty percent Mexican
Speaker 1: and you know then the other right, So diversity, you know,
Speaker 1: is what we're seeing now, and that's why I'm proud
Speaker 1: because we have a lot more of our white athletes,
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters, you know, stepping up to support, you know,
Speaker 1: this social justice issue that we have going on. So
Speaker 1: that's why I'm proud now. But it wasn't, as we know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't always like that because people felt ashame. They
Speaker 1: didn't want to get involved. They want to stay in
Speaker 1: their own little bubble, their own little world or community
Speaker 1: because they didn't have to deal with And it was
Speaker 1: like I was saying before when and you you mentioned it, Steve,
Speaker 1: they don't have to deal with it if it's not
Speaker 1: at the front door. And so that's what we've dealt
Speaker 1: with for a long time is oh, that's not affecting us,
Speaker 1: so we don't really care about it. Well that's changing
Speaker 1: now and that's what I'm most proud of and and
Speaker 1: hopefully it continues to change for the sake of our children. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, because man, you know, it's it's been it's
Speaker 1: been a tough it's been a tough eight years. I'll
Speaker 1: say since twelve when all this social justice stuff started
Speaker 1: happening and this Black Lives Matter movement started happening. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been a tough eight years. Man. M. How early
Speaker 1: did you start playing tackle football? Uh? Seven years old?
Speaker 1: I started playing? Yes, seven, Man, you start early here,
Speaker 1: you know you start early. Now. I begged my mom
Speaker 1: to let me play. I think at that time you
Speaker 1: can start at six. I want to say, you can
Speaker 1: start on the junior team. And so for it. For
Speaker 1: an entire year, I begged my mom to let me play.
Speaker 1: She would not let me play tackle. I played flag football.
Speaker 1: I first played flag when I turned five. I played
Speaker 1: on the boys and girls club team. And I was cold, right,
Speaker 1: and so I went home. But you know that that's
Speaker 1: where you get the confidence to be like, I think
Speaker 1: I'm ready for tackle. So I went home, Mom, I'm
Speaker 1: ready for tackle. Can I play tackle? No, You're not
Speaker 1: playing tackle. You're gonna get hurt out there. And for
Speaker 1: a year, man, I begged her, and so finally when
Speaker 1: I turned seven, she let me play. And that was
Speaker 1: the first year I started playing. Now. What else did
Speaker 1: you play as a kid coming up or even in
Speaker 1: the high school? Everything? Basketball, baseball, and track pretty much? Man,
Speaker 1: year around, I was, I was playing sports. Um, I
Speaker 1: stayed busy and active playings warts so whatever I could play,
Speaker 1: I played it. How was your high school for you, because,
Speaker 1: like you said, you were killing it at a young gage.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm sure coming into high school even back then,
Speaker 1: not to the magnitude it is now for high school players.
Speaker 1: But you know, I know they treat I want to say,
Speaker 1: treated you different in a bad way. But we all
Speaker 1: know that the the smart kid get treated differently, the
Speaker 1: sports um, the nerd, right, and and I just say,
Speaker 1: all that is you. I think it's different now today
Speaker 1: because I watched my kids and they all definitely they
Speaker 1: intermingled like he used to be a ranking. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a kind of segment. Yeah, it was, but
Speaker 1: in a good way. It was a ranking. Or like
Speaker 1: you had the people who are in rock and roll
Speaker 1: in golf, So you had that group like the golf crowd, yes.
Speaker 1: Then you had the musical crowd, right, who loved playing music,
Speaker 1: you know, musicians and instruments. Then you have to urge,
Speaker 1: right and it's nothing wrong with it. Then you had
Speaker 1: maybe the hygienic unhygienically clean, right you have, So it
Speaker 1: was it was the dirty crew compared to now like
Speaker 1: when my kids now when they have people over I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's all everyone hangs together, Like my daughter had an
Speaker 1: event at our house one time, and I'm going, it's
Speaker 1: some real squares something here and you're cool with that,
Speaker 1: cool dude, Like it's not as clicky as it used. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it was dudes walking around like these are some
Speaker 1: real l seven's up in here, right, And I just right,
Speaker 1: it just really like I was like, dangn things are different, right,
Speaker 1: and then you have the athletes, right, then you have
Speaker 1: to you have two pretty girls, right, and I just
Speaker 1: I mean all of that where you had it and
Speaker 1: now they're just they co mingle. I mean, everybody's everybody's
Speaker 1: the same. And so that's why I said, like, how
Speaker 1: was it for you being a such a successful athlete
Speaker 1: going up in high school? I'm wondering, you know, being
Speaker 1: in a small town. I mean I'm imagining and I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you know that you know, you had a good game,
Speaker 1: and maybe you know, in the cafeteria because it was
Speaker 1: a small town, probably family members he until you did good.
Speaker 1: This time you get to you you get to Apple's houses.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, my situation was different. So, um, after
Speaker 1: a great year, my mom, my grandmother gets sick and
Speaker 1: she's my grandmother's in Marlin. And so my mom, my
Speaker 1: mom comes to us and says, uh, guys, we need
Speaker 1: to move back to Marland. And you know, we're like what.
Speaker 1: Me and my younger brother My younger brothers three years
Speaker 1: younger than I, and so we're like, what, what do
Speaker 1: you move back to? Marlon Wine. We've been in Waco
Speaker 1: this whole time, and so obviously we knew that grandma
Speaker 1: was sick and my mom wanted to move back to
Speaker 1: be closer tour. So my freshman year I went to
Speaker 1: Marland High School. That was the only year I went there.
Speaker 1: So my freshman year I go there and I made
Speaker 1: varsity in football, make Barson and basketball, make Barson in baseball,
Speaker 1: varsity track. This is three a high school now, you know,
Speaker 1: which is middle of of the role in Texas Texas football.
Speaker 1: And after that year, I pretty much made a name
Speaker 1: for myself my freshman year, right, and maybe it was
Speaker 1: it actually was like that Steve in Marlon my freshman year.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh man, this kid is gonna be incredible, right,
Speaker 1: And so in the cafeteria, yeah, two apple sauces to
Speaker 1: two chocolate milks. You know what, I'm saying, because you
Speaker 1: know how it is. Yeah. Continue. So then, um, towards
Speaker 1: the end of the year, my mom comes back and says,
Speaker 1: we're going back to Wacome and so, man, the coaches
Speaker 1: in Marlon went crazy. I mean, they were trying to
Speaker 1: get my mom a job to have me stay there.
Speaker 1: It was trying to do everything to keep me at
Speaker 1: that school. It didn't work. Mom said, now we're going
Speaker 1: back to Waco. So we went back to Waco the
Speaker 1: summer of my sophomore year. Guys, I walked into the
Speaker 1: football coach's office, le Roy Coleman, old school dude, right,
Speaker 1: he don't know me from from you know, not saying
Speaker 1: how you said, I don't know you from Adam Boy exactly.
Speaker 1: Him't HI don't know me, and so I get in.
Speaker 1: I get in his office. We're talking and he said,
Speaker 1: someone one position you played. I said, coach, I play
Speaker 1: tail back and I play safety. He said, oh, I
Speaker 1: know you don't. He said, we got tailbacks. You're gonna
Speaker 1: play at fullback. Hey, Steve, that was the first time
Speaker 1: I got humble as a kid. That thought. He was,
Speaker 1: you know, the best thing smoking This man told me
Speaker 1: you're not gonna play tailbacker. You're gonna play fullback. And
Speaker 1: so I had a decision to make at that time,
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever been told no that I
Speaker 1: can't play the position I want to, I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I actually thought about not playing football. I thought about
Speaker 1: just saying, man, I'm gonna play baseball and basketball. Went home,
Speaker 1: had a conversation with my mom. She said, you're not
Speaker 1: You're not quitting football. She said, you're the one that's
Speaker 1: been since you were six. You said, this is what
Speaker 1: you love to do, and you want to go to
Speaker 1: the NFL. So you're not quitting. You're gonna stick it
Speaker 1: out and you're gonna play the position that man's asking
Speaker 1: you to play. I said, yes, ma'am. You know. So
Speaker 1: for the next two years, guys, my sophomore in junior year,
Speaker 1: I played fullback an outside line backer. I was blocking
Speaker 1: for like these little scat backs, like guys look like spros. Right,
Speaker 1: Look he's so hot, saying scat back. He said, sat back.
Speaker 1: But that ain't really what he said, Yeah, man, it was.
Speaker 1: It was rough. And then my senior year coach called
Speaker 1: me in the office the summer my senior year and
Speaker 1: he said, son, you have done everything that we asked
Speaker 1: you to do over these last two years. He says,
Speaker 1: your show. Now. He said, you're gonna be the running back.
Speaker 1: And from there, man, I took off first game six touchdowns,
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the year yards thirty
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns and the rest is history. Wow. So tell
Speaker 1: us about your very unique senior year, though it's for
Speaker 1: home front. Yeah. So, uh, you know my mom, as
Speaker 1: you guys probably know now, she has she has in
Speaker 1: tendencee of moving around a little bit. So right before
Speaker 1: my senior year, my mom comes and says, hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna move to Dallas. There's an opportunity, you know,
Speaker 1: for my stepdad to go up there and work. We're
Speaker 1: gonna leave Waco. And I had a conversation. Now I'm
Speaker 1: seventeen at that time, I had a conversation with my mom.
Speaker 1: I said, Mom, listen, I said, if I go to
Speaker 1: Dallas now, I have no chance of getting a scholarship,
Speaker 1: no chance. I hadn't been offered at that point going
Speaker 1: into my senior I had no offers, no schools really
Speaker 1: talking to me, right. And so I told her, I said,
Speaker 1: if you take me out now, I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not going to college, I won't have a chance,
Speaker 1: and she trusted me. She left, she moved to Dallas
Speaker 1: and she left me and I stayed with a family friend.
Speaker 1: And after that first game, I told y'all, I scored
Speaker 1: six touchdowns. TCU came that next week and offered me
Speaker 1: a full scholarship. Wow. Yeah, that's and that's when everything
Speaker 1: kind of started, you know, it started to take off
Speaker 1: in terms of recruiting. How did you ended up picking
Speaker 1: TCU because there had to be some other schools in
Speaker 1: the mix with what made you see like you as
Speaker 1: a college you want to put them on a map? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I just felt sense a loyalty to them. You know,
Speaker 1: they were the first team. I felt like that really
Speaker 1: believed in my talent. First team of offer this scholarship
Speaker 1: first want to show up in my school like hey kid,
Speaker 1: we want you. And then I just felt like I
Speaker 1: wanted to play early. I wanted to play my freshman year.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go on red shirt. And so
Speaker 1: TCU were telling me you're gonna play like you you're
Speaker 1: good enough. You're gonna come in here and you're gonna
Speaker 1: play day one. And you know, all these schools they
Speaker 1: tell you. Oh, yeah, you're gonna be able to play.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a chance to play. But you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of times they're lying for some reason. I
Speaker 1: believe I believe tc you know, I believe them, and
Speaker 1: but you know, it came true. I played in every
Speaker 1: single game from the time my first my first year,
Speaker 1: my freshman year, first game I rolled out there, I played,
Speaker 1: you know, and so it worked out. I felt like
Speaker 1: that was the perfect place for me. Also, I was
Speaker 1: still close to my mom. Remember I said, my mom
Speaker 1: moved to the Dallas TCU was in Fort Worth, so
Speaker 1: that was like a twenty minute drive over to my
Speaker 1: mom's house. So I can still go to family dinners,
Speaker 1: you know, my mom go over there and watch clothes
Speaker 1: and and my mom can come to all my games
Speaker 1: and stuff. It just felt like the right place for me.
Speaker 1: I think it's about that time. Just take a little breather,
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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts, I'm gonna ask this question. I know there,
Speaker 1: I think I know the response that I get, but
Speaker 1: I have to ask in this way because it's also
Speaker 1: you're from the Big Three and that Big three, and
Speaker 1: and for those who don't know what the Big Three is,
Speaker 1: some of the most decorated, some of the most consistent,
Speaker 1: some of the superstars you see today in the league
Speaker 1: in Hall of Fame are from the Big Three and
Speaker 1: the Big Three. In this ranking order, California's number one,
Speaker 1: Texas show asked, and number three is North Carolina and
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Listen, North Carolina aiming on the barbecue top
Speaker 1: three anyway, Carolina, obviously you're going to TCU. However you
Speaker 1: put yourself on the map. I really remember we're from
Speaker 1: the same draft class. I remember we played in the
Speaker 1: Shrine game together. Well I played mostly he did not.
Speaker 1: He he just kind of showed up. He was there.
Speaker 1: I don't remember if we know I played, I played
Speaker 1: a scene, I played in the senior ball you played in.
Speaker 1: So we were at some events together our senior year.
Speaker 1: I think it was, yeah, I think that was was
Speaker 1: that the premier It might have been the College award.
Speaker 1: It was the college award deal. And I just all
Speaker 1: the scouts like being all over him, and and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was just a you know, frail little
Speaker 1: thing from uh from Utah. And I just remember sitting
Speaker 1: back going, I wonder what it's like, What did I
Speaker 1: do to you? I didn't do anything. I just more
Speaker 1: I was just like, I wonder what it's like to
Speaker 1: be those guys right now. That was my first time
Speaker 1: really getting attention, you know, because my senior year, I
Speaker 1: was up for the Hysmanously Steve and I were playing
Speaker 1: in the same division, but we didn't get a lot
Speaker 1: of attention in our division. And the only reason why
Speaker 1: I got attention because I was up with the hisman.
Speaker 1: And but but if you remember Steve, before the season,
Speaker 1: they had me projected as as like a third round
Speaker 1: running back. They had Duced McCallister in front of me,
Speaker 1: Lamont Jordan in front of me, They had Travis Henry
Speaker 1: in front of me. They had all these guys in
Speaker 1: front of me. Anthony Thomas had a train. I had
Speaker 1: to I had to, just like you, I had to
Speaker 1: kind of grind it out and improve to him that
Speaker 1: I was the best. Yeah, you did, and you proved
Speaker 1: to them. However, I also looking on the outside in,
Speaker 1: it looked like it was a hell of a rhyme. Right,
Speaker 1: I can't complain about it. You got more free stuff
Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, watching the guy in the
Speaker 1: green room going to New York, watching that you get
Speaker 1: the call and everybody crying. You know, is that just
Speaker 1: TV magic? Are we getting the best moment of when
Speaker 1: you got drafted? Because there is a process from when
Speaker 1: you play your last game in college until the moment
Speaker 1: you you were drafted. There's a ton of stuff that
Speaker 1: goes on that don't make the cameras. Yeah, I felt
Speaker 1: disrespected the whole time, to be honest with you, and
Speaker 1: it started. It started at the Heisman, and man, these
Speaker 1: things put chips on your shoulder that you never forget.
Speaker 1: So at the Heisman it was myself, was Chris Winky
Speaker 1: Florida State, Josh Hypel Oklahoma, and Drew Brees perduced all
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and myself. The one thing I remember is being
Speaker 1: basically shunned down and kind of Lee Corso. I remember
Speaker 1: we were on the elevator. Lee Corso gets on and
Speaker 1: he talked. He says high to all the quarterbacks didn't
Speaker 1: say nothing to me. You know, it was just like
Speaker 1: who is this dude? You know that it started with that,
Speaker 1: like I just felt disrespected at the hidsman and then
Speaker 1: you carry that over too to combine. I remember getting
Speaker 1: on the plane and I was with the Cowboy coaches.
Speaker 1: The Cowboy coaches, we were on the same flight, and
Speaker 1: one of the coaches walked up to me and he said, hey,
Speaker 1: t you, you know, the only question you need to
Speaker 1: answer is how fast are you? You know, we we
Speaker 1: we think you can be a pretty good running back,
Speaker 1: but we want to know how fast are you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna run? At least the four five? And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I run, I run below fourth. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so you know, those questions were they were constant
Speaker 1: to me, you know, like being disrespected, people feeling like
Speaker 1: this guy don't belong here, you know. And so that
Speaker 1: whole time I thought about those things. I thought about
Speaker 1: even even to the point, guys on draft day, if
Speaker 1: you go back and look at it, when they call
Speaker 1: my name with the fifth overall pick, who did they
Speaker 1: put the camera on David Terrell from Michigan. They put
Speaker 1: the camera on David Turelle they thought I was him,
Speaker 1: So you know, man, but you you just remember disrespect
Speaker 1: like that, and and you know that's that's why you
Speaker 1: have the chip on your shoulder. And it drove me
Speaker 1: for a long time. We're hearing you say this, people
Speaker 1: would easily assume that I would say, and they go, okay, well,
Speaker 1: of course we're here from Steve. But these are the
Speaker 1: stories you're chippiness, your um, how angry you are, you
Speaker 1: feel disrespected? You just don't wake up feeling that way.
Speaker 1: There is it builds over time. And the reason I
Speaker 1: say it is you sitting there on the elevator at
Speaker 1: the Heisman and Lee Corso not speaking to you, and
Speaker 1: Lee can easily say, well, I didn't know what how overlooked?
Speaker 1: How can you say that, fool? You are in college football,
Speaker 1: you do announcing, and there's only a handful of us
Speaker 1: that and we're only here for the Heisman and only
Speaker 1: the people, and I'm the only non quarterback and you
Speaker 1: know they got my mug on the Pathlet be at
Speaker 1: least right. He had to prep for this event that
Speaker 1: he was paid to be at. And so people sometimes
Speaker 1: will not acknowledge or they don't even know that all
Speaker 1: of this off has happened prior to you getting drafted.
Speaker 1: All this stuff has happened like you. It's funny, you say,
Speaker 1: David Terrell. I have a David Terrell story for you
Speaker 1: that's funnier. I go to Dick Gerond was the head
Speaker 1: coach for a short period time Chicago Bears. Do you
Speaker 1: know on my trip to the Chicago Bears, did you
Speaker 1: know I wasn't even allowed to really meet with all
Speaker 1: the coaching staff because I wasn't considered a legitimate wide receiver.
Speaker 1: They flew my black ass to Chicago to talk to
Speaker 1: me about potentially drafting me, but not not as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. They had the I had. So who guess
Speaker 1: who was the assistant wide receiver coach who was in
Speaker 1: charge kind of walking me around Chicago, which was Todd Haley.
Speaker 1: He had just got the assistant job because he was
Speaker 1: another assistant with the Dallas Cowboys. So the real or
Speaker 1: the the the coach for the wide receivers wasn't even
Speaker 1: in town. How are you gonna have a potential recruit?
Speaker 1: And I didn't even get to position his possession? Coach
Speaker 1: ain't But you know who they drafted though? Yep, they
Speaker 1: drafted David Terrell with the Chicago best. That's why all
Speaker 1: the motherfuckers got uh that's why all sunk in two years.
Speaker 1: Screwed that one up, screwed it up. I killed him.
Speaker 1: I had like foecasting for ninety six yards. I hit
Speaker 1: him for a slant from like ninety five yards. Second
Speaker 1: player the game till this day, Todd Haley has told
Speaker 1: me if they would have drafted met in the third
Speaker 1: rounders wide receiver, they will still have a job in Chicago.
Speaker 1: So he stay, I got the ass all fire. I
Speaker 1: think the thing did for me. Then you know you
Speaker 1: appreciate more, you know what I mean, like the certain
Speaker 1: things that you like, Steve, Like your first Pro Bowl?
Speaker 1: How much did you appreciate that? You know, Like, I know,
Speaker 1: like my first Pro Bowl man being there, like Jerry
Speaker 1: Rice and Dreams Saying and all these guys, it just
Speaker 1: made it more sweeter, Like, yeah, y'all thought I wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough, but look at me now I'm at the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and so I'm fair to live it up.
Speaker 1: I'm in Hawaii, you know, like it just made it
Speaker 1: so much sweeter. I'm sure it was the same for you, Steve,
Speaker 1: it did, I mean it's it's one of the it's
Speaker 1: one of the cool stories out did that. It's because
Speaker 1: I went to the Pro Bowl a few times. My son,
Speaker 1: Peyton Um. You know, Troy Palomo is a great dude, right,
Speaker 1: And Troy would play He didn't have kids at the time,
Speaker 1: so he would play with all the little kids on
Speaker 1: the beach playing football. But Troy had such a he
Speaker 1: was so unique. Troy hit the it's not out of
Speaker 1: me one time and I got up and I was hot.
Speaker 1: He goes many Steve. You know, Troy had a soft
Speaker 1: spoken voice. They stay, how does Peyton? And I looked
Speaker 1: at him. I wanted to like, excuse me, but he
Speaker 1: was so sucere. He was like man's patent and it's
Speaker 1: it changed. And I was like, he's doing good. I
Speaker 1: don't even know why the hell. I answered in a
Speaker 1: nice he's doing good, man, thanks for asking. But but
Speaker 1: it was so cool because that's who he was. Right.
Speaker 1: But I would have never got the opportunity to know
Speaker 1: about Troy Polamalu and how he was outside of it
Speaker 1: because of that uniqueness of going to the Pro Bowl, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, my rookie I went to the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: two thousand one, and I got to you know, I
Speaker 1: got to see Ray Lewis, I got to see Rob Woodson.
Speaker 1: But the cool thing is I also got to see uh,
Speaker 1: one of my childhood idols when I was in college,
Speaker 1: Jermaine Lewis for the Baltimore Ravens, a pump returner man
Speaker 1: and that what was called he was cold man, and
Speaker 1: so got to got to see him, Shannon Sharp and
Speaker 1: all these people that now I know. But when you're
Speaker 1: growing up and you're trying to and you're trying to
Speaker 1: live it, man, you sell yourself so short because you've
Speaker 1: been so short so much that there's times that you
Speaker 1: subconsciously believe it. You know, Man, I've been wanting to
Speaker 1: ask you this forever. Bro explain the touchdown celebration. How
Speaker 1: did you come up with that? And what was it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was basically a finger roll. And so basketball was
Speaker 1: my second favorite sport. You know. I love to play
Speaker 1: basketball even still to this day. Um, And when you
Speaker 1: think about the guys, the first drill you learn in basketball,
Speaker 1: the first shot is a layup. You learn how to
Speaker 1: do a layup. It's the easiest drill. Is the first
Speaker 1: basic fundamental you learning basketball. And so when you start
Speaker 1: to get good at the lay up, what do you
Speaker 1: do you start the finger roll? Do you get a
Speaker 1: little bit fancy? So in essence, every time I scored,
Speaker 1: now I only did this standing up. So if you
Speaker 1: notice only finger roll, then when I went in standing up.
Speaker 1: So basically I was saying as easy as a finger roll.
Speaker 1: I always described it like a play is a painting.
Speaker 1: Each play, you know you basically you know, you create,
Speaker 1: you create this this great painting during the play. If
Speaker 1: it results in a touchdown, then who has to sign
Speaker 1: the painting? The of course I do. And so that's
Speaker 1: how I used to sign my painting at the end
Speaker 1: of a touchdown. Figure Row you played with JR. Saying
Speaker 1: for a couple of seasons, you know, I know how
Speaker 1: how much you love Junior and talked about him, but
Speaker 1: what was what was that experience to have him as
Speaker 1: a teammate and it's being such a young player, uh yourself, man,
Speaker 1: it was the best thing for me JR. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I was able to come into a locker
Speaker 1: room with no pressure, like no pressure really having to
Speaker 1: lead in terms of communication or anything like that. I
Speaker 1: can just sit there and watch this all pro, all
Speaker 1: world guy who was a superstar on and off the field.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I did, honestly, for that first year,
Speaker 1: I just watched Junior a lot. You know, I would
Speaker 1: I would ask him so many questions. I know he
Speaker 1: thought at the time, like, man, this kid is all
Speaker 1: on me. Won't he just stop asking me stuff? But
Speaker 1: he was. He was the open book, you know I were.
Speaker 1: Remember he used to get in the cold tub every
Speaker 1: single day. And you know, coming out of college, you
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't know about the cold tub. At
Speaker 1: least I don't know if you did, Steve, coming out
Speaker 1: of college, you didn't have no cold Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: didn't either, So I didn't know about no cold tub.
Speaker 1: I I asked him one time, I said, why do
Speaker 1: you why do you get in the cold tub every day?
Speaker 1: He said, this is rejuvenate my legs, And he broke
Speaker 1: it down to me, how what it does for you?
Speaker 1: From that from that day, for when he told me
Speaker 1: that I was getting to the cold tub every single
Speaker 1: day too, I asked him, um, who does his massages?
Speaker 1: You know, everything that I can think of. I even
Speaker 1: asked him, worshould I proposed to my wife? You know,
Speaker 1: he was one of a kind, and I learned so
Speaker 1: much that I think probably one of the most important
Speaker 1: things is when you become the face of a franchise
Speaker 1: is how to deal with all that stuff, how to
Speaker 1: deal with the media, how to deal with your teammates,
Speaker 1: how to deal with being the you know, the in
Speaker 1: the public eye and the community, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And when I became the franchise, the face of the franchise,
Speaker 1: I learned it from Junior. Everything that I did I
Speaker 1: kind of got from Junior because I was able to
Speaker 1: see him and go through. So this last segment is
Speaker 1: called the Deep three LT and so basically the whole
Speaker 1: point of this is to go, like we've said before,
Speaker 1: to go beyond who you were on the field. Steve,
Speaker 1: why don't you hit him with the first question? My
Speaker 1: first one. We're here in North Carolina, been here almost
Speaker 1: twenty years now, and there's someone that lives here, UM
Speaker 1: that you're very familiar with, Marty Schottenheimer. What does Marty
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer meant to you on the personal level? Man? Marty
Speaker 1: was Marty was one of a kind man. And the
Speaker 1: relationship that um he and I had um was was
Speaker 1: beyond the football field and went beyond the football field.
Speaker 1: He was more like a father figure for myself. Man,
Speaker 1: and and and and cut to it. Honestly, man, it's
Speaker 1: I work with you and you know we're from the
Speaker 1: two thousand one draft class. But um, from Afar, I've
Speaker 1: always uh admired you. Um you know we we we're
Speaker 1: co workers, were friends, classmates. UM, but I've always admired
Speaker 1: everything about you. Um you know how you conduct your
Speaker 1: app manure that I feel the same way, brother, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate you all having me on. Um. He was driving,
Speaker 1: he was not able. We were not able to get
Speaker 1: a clear connection, so we weren't able to do the
Speaker 1: dep three. Um. However, he did promise to come back
Speaker 1: on the show, and so we might do Deep six
Speaker 1: or Deep ten whatever. Um, you know, maybe we can
Speaker 1: guilt him into giving us some more great stories. His
Speaker 1: storytelling was unbelievable. That's the that's the biggest one. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean just just down to how he could remember,
Speaker 1: you know, what is what his dad was doing, what
Speaker 1: his mom said to him, and even how it smelled,
Speaker 1: the smell of the grass, how what what fall reminds
Speaker 1: him of what smell takes you back somewhere. This is
Speaker 1: probably a funny, funny response. But um, I've been married
Speaker 1: to my my lovely wife, my better half, almost twenty years,
Speaker 1: and in every relationship there are some things that are
Speaker 1: kind of you know, you try to avoid. And what's
Speaker 1: interesting is, um, my wife loved pork chops. Bro, I
Speaker 1: hated pork chops, don't I know? But I ate work
Speaker 1: for like four years. One day we're in the grocery store,
Speaker 1: me and my wife, and she was getting some pork chops.
Speaker 1: I said, babe, she said, yeah, I soun don't really
Speaker 1: like pork jobs. She said, why didn't you tell me?
Speaker 1: I was like, because you like them, Bro, I hate
Speaker 1: pork chops. I've always hated pork chops. And why do
Speaker 1: I hate pork chops? It takes me back. But here's
Speaker 1: here's the part of you know, this is child abuse now.
Speaker 1: But my mom would not allowed me to get up
Speaker 1: from the table until I ate the liver, and so
Speaker 1: how as here's the child abuse. So I I smelled
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is not pork chops. She said,
Speaker 1: shut up, boy, your food and so I wasn't eating it,
Speaker 1: and so she said, you ain't getting from the table
Speaker 1: until you eat. So my stubborn self. Now my brother Ray,
Speaker 1: My brother Ray, he snuck down and through the pork
Speaker 1: chops at the bottom of the trash like he ug
Speaker 1: up the trash throw them in there. I ain't doing
Speaker 1: that because well not, I just wasn't if I get caught,
Speaker 1: I wasn't eating. So I moved a plate and I
Speaker 1: fell asleep on the dinner table. Do you know how
Speaker 1: my mama woke me up with the next morning? No,
Speaker 1: she woked me up by mid sleep. I was drooling
Speaker 1: on the table and everything. I was in full sleep mode.
Speaker 1: She woke me up by slapping me in the back
Speaker 1: of the head and told me to go to bed.
Speaker 1: Bro that hurt my feelings, don't But I ain't no
Speaker 1: damn port and I don't eat por chops. To this day,
Speaker 1: I have not touched a chop or pork in a
Speaker 1: long time. We all have things when we're a little
Speaker 1: kid that it resonates with us, and I think sometimes
Speaker 1: till the day we die, because it is whether I
Speaker 1: don't want to use her, traumatized or whatever it is wound,
Speaker 1: it is embedded than us. And for me, I don't
Speaker 1: like portos and it's something silly to wear even in
Speaker 1: my rage. I was tiptoeing around it in the pork
Speaker 1: chops section, going, how do I say, only like pork chops? Bro,
Speaker 1: I struggle eating them pork chops for four years, and
Speaker 1: then she's like being a good husband instead, right, And
Speaker 1: but here's the crazy part. She would make pork chops.
Speaker 1: And then when I when I was playing, she would
Speaker 1: only make pork chops when I was away, when I
Speaker 1: was traveling because with DA's leaving, so we'll have pork chops.
Speaker 1: And I mean we don't. You know, I don't really
Speaker 1: eat a lot of pork. I tried not to. I
Speaker 1: was raised kind of after that, kind of that time.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't really eat a lot of pork
Speaker 1: because I mean it just go look up a pig.
Speaker 1: A pig does not uh, it doesn't sweat, has no
Speaker 1: sweat glands. So everything it eats, it lays in. The
Speaker 1: toxics is in its in the meat. So that's why
Speaker 1: pork because of that. So yeah, but it may sound silly,
Speaker 1: and like your smell that takes you back is pork jobs.
Speaker 1: That's you know what, And I'm forty one years old.
Speaker 1: You put an I don't sounds I'm good smid My Brother,
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