WEBVTT - LaDanian Tomlinson

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do it, Good do it. They're getting

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<v Speaker 1>down to do it. Good do it. We asked the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard them about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Then we're about to let you know. It's all Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a couple of weeks when I said

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<v Speaker 1>coach Law was not correct. Yes, gee, how you doing

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<v Speaker 1>this afternoon? Brother? I am doing fantastic, man? How about you? Why? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just man. Had a good had a good week,

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<v Speaker 1>had a good weekend. Just try to get some had

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<v Speaker 1>to get some cool downtime, had some time to just

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and watch a movie. And I got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to watch Remember the Titans. And for me, Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans is my favorite, your favorite, your favorite football movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, your favorite. It's my favorite. I say

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<v Speaker 1>that one and maybe that and maybe any given Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely, definitely I think I may give the not

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<v Speaker 1>to remember the times. It's it's special to me shine

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<v Speaker 1>when we were when I was in high school, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a field trip to go see Remember the Titans,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were in the whole movie theater. So even

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<v Speaker 1>even when you remember the very last play when they

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<v Speaker 1>put Red back in the game, they do the they

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<v Speaker 1>do the option play and he scores a touchdown like

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<v Speaker 1>all of us going crazy in it. So that one

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<v Speaker 1>is probably why I say it is my favorite, because

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<v Speaker 1>because it brings back memories for me. I loved the program.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that when I was when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>whenever came out, I think high school man my dad went.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was pretty cool. I like the The Longest Yard.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good. I like that one. They got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of them, though. There's you like the newest one,

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<v Speaker 1>of you like the old one. Um, I like the

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<v Speaker 1>newest one, old the old one. So the remake I

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<v Speaker 1>like the old one was a little bit slow. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what else is a slow movie? But everybody loves

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<v Speaker 1>North Dallas for you, that's like an old school movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a football movie as well. Um. But the only

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<v Speaker 1>problem I have with like, what's my best football movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Little Giants? There's one part that I loved. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that one annexation Puerto Rico, right, and I love that

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<v Speaker 1>one when um, what's his name, Johnny until there in

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<v Speaker 1>the huddle, he never get the ball, He never get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. We're gonna give it to John Johnny and

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Johnny Johnny. Right, So I like that one. But

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I really don't like football movies, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes either you watch shows or movies, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>understand some of those movies sometimes take the one off

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<v Speaker 1>story that just like comes out of nowhere that everybody's like,

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<v Speaker 1>does that really happen? And people believe that that's how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. Not accurate. It's what's the most accurate football

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<v Speaker 1>movie there's there's not one, not even any giving Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't believe Bill Bellamy was a wide receiver. M

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great question. L col J isn't running back?

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<v Speaker 1>T was in it in any given Sunday. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was. I just here's what I say. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>really portray it because even some of the craziest football stories,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't hear them repeating themselves. So people think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it goes all the time, like every school

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<v Speaker 1>gets the punishment, every school is cheating. That's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>And so and because we so much economics and financial

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<v Speaker 1>so much as given to the colleges and everything is

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<v Speaker 1>around football that they believe, you know, the dumb jocks scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>It perpetuates some sterios, too many stereotypes. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. So if if if there was

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<v Speaker 1>a movie and Steve Smith needed to be in it,

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<v Speaker 1>who who would play Steve Smith? Off top of your head? Oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of picky, So I don't know. You got

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta name one. I mean, obviously he's not athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>but why not Denzel? If I don't if I'm gonna swing,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna swing, if I'm swinging for the fences.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine Denzel Washington trying to do Steve Smith quotables?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be awesome. Actually, now that if you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this face, I believe it. I guarantee. All right anyway, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's move on. Yeah, I probably won't have Denzel

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<v Speaker 1>too serious. Hey, who's like us for today? Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on the cut to a podcast, We've got legendary running

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<v Speaker 1>back La Dainian Tomlinson a K A L T, A

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<v Speaker 1>five time pro bowler and two thousand six is m

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<v Speaker 1>v P. LT played for the Chargers and the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>and has had a statue in Canton since seen l

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<v Speaker 1>T Well, l T, thanks so much for joining Cut

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast My pleasure. Man, it's it's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to be on with you guys. Excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He appreciate you. So hey, our first segment it's called

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<v Speaker 1>get Iced Up. Their random questions. Smitty has compiled super random,

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<v Speaker 1>super random. You don't know that to be a follow

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<v Speaker 1>up anything. So it's just our version of an icebreaker.

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<v Speaker 1>So LT, get ready to get iced up Smitty, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, here you go, LT. Your favorite fruit druice

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<v Speaker 1>drew pints of course. Okay, that's like ten pursue juice

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<v Speaker 1>in there. So it's a whole bunch of all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your favorite season and why? Like the season summer, winter, fall,

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<v Speaker 1>that that type of season. I had to I had

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<v Speaker 1>to have it open ended because you never know what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guests we're gonna have and what the education is. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love basketball season. I don't know what we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about, but we appreciate it. Bro Uh Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I love fall season for a couple of reasons. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, football guys have been defined as the guys

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<v Speaker 1>of fall. Steve, you have heard that, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a certain smell in the air about fall. Like

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<v Speaker 1>for me. You know when you when you play football

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<v Speaker 1>and play ball your whole life pretty much twenty plus years,

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<v Speaker 1>like you do the same things over and over. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the same smell when it comes to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain time of the year. You know, a certain field

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<v Speaker 1>that you get in a certain time of year. Fall

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<v Speaker 1>from me is always football season. All that smell, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>comes back to me that field that I get. Even now,

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<v Speaker 1>not the field anymore because I'm old now I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>playing anymore, but the smell. Sometimes I go outside in

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<v Speaker 1>the grass, the way it smells in the fall, it

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of game day sometimes. And so that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons. The other reason is I live in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and y'all know it gets real hot in Texas, man,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the summertime. So right after the summer is

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<v Speaker 1>what it's fall. And so it's perfect golfing season for

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<v Speaker 1>old guy like me. Now I get to play a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of golf in the fall. So fall is my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite season. Okay, what is the first thing you thought

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<v Speaker 1>of this morning when you woke up. What I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>feed my kids for breakfast in the full school? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's the first thing I thought about, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing I do. Okay, So what did

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<v Speaker 1>you feed him? Did you cook? Because I actually I

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<v Speaker 1>fed my my, my, my one of my boys who

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<v Speaker 1>was in school the rest of the too in college,

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<v Speaker 1>one graduate college, ones in college. She's living on her own.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did you What did you make? Egg? Whites

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<v Speaker 1>ed whites um, scrabbled with a little sausage in there,

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<v Speaker 1>with some fruit on the side. My daughter loves toast.

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<v Speaker 1>My son doesn't like bread, so one had toast one dinnit.

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<v Speaker 1>What's funny? I And this is wasn't even time correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going backwards when my wife got up this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>she gets up and we have this whole little dialogue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been going on since the virus has hit. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife is making sure that everyone has their their vitamins.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's all in organic holistic West Coast, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, vitamin c uh, you know, having so many

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<v Speaker 1>and me in B and write him in D and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and and she makes her own uh elderberry uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and just all this stuff. And so so we do

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<v Speaker 1>this thing where when she gives me vitamin C. Her

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<v Speaker 1>name is Angie. So I say, I ain't taking vitamin

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<v Speaker 1>C till I get that vitamin every morning. And she

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<v Speaker 1>she literally she says, shere's your vitamins. I said, well, vitamins.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see no vitamins. And she rose eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>she gave me a kiss. I said, oh, those vitamins.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, let me take them right and so but

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<v Speaker 1>she gets up, and so I've had the blessing like you. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my oldest son, Peyton is twenty two, who's

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<v Speaker 1>actually running our social media for cut to It social

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<v Speaker 1>media manager. My daughter's nineteen years old, she's off of

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<v Speaker 1>college and working. And then I have Boston, who's fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Douce, who six, and so Deuce is still

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<v Speaker 1>sleep but I got up this morning. I made him

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<v Speaker 1>a cheese omelet um hoasts and chicken sausage, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was remembering that I have made breakfast for my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously an off season, but now that I retire,

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<v Speaker 1>I made breakfast for Peyton Bailey, and then I make

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<v Speaker 1>it for Boston, and Boston is gonna be driving next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I kind of looked at him and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>next year, you'll be driving, and I don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>honor of getting up and make you breakfast anymore. He goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you do. I said, no, you're driving yourself. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. If you could drive yourself, your own breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>make your own breakfast. I am not getting up at

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<v Speaker 1>six o'clock because you know, to make breakfast. You it's

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. Just you can't. You can't have bookers in

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes and be making toasts like that's nasty. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you wipe your face first. Yeah, so just doing that, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have, like you, I have the honor to

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<v Speaker 1>just sit there man, and and make breakfast for my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>to sit there. Man. Then we hop up, we hoppen,

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<v Speaker 1>get in the car, put the dog in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>um because wife sleep and the dog, you know, whimper,

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<v Speaker 1>and so just hopping the car and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>just do that. And it was just an honor show man.

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<v Speaker 1>You you may remember, and I was thinking about that

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<v Speaker 1>that probably this is the last year that I have

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<v Speaker 1>the honor of making the breakfast because I get the

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<v Speaker 1>sleepy and you're lucky but it is an honor, Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, man, And you know I do the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing every morning. I get up and I made my

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<v Speaker 1>kids breakfast before school. Is just kind of it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what I do. And I remember my my dad

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<v Speaker 1>doing those little things like that, um and so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's like it becomes like a tradition, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think it's the appreciation that you

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<v Speaker 1>see from your kids. Um. And then the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is helping out around the house. You know, now that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm retired, being able to do things like that around

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<v Speaker 1>the house to help my wife out. You know, she

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to get up all the time because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be honest. You know, my kids right now their

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<v Speaker 1>online class, they're not going to school, so they get

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<v Speaker 1>up in their own computer. Well when when they have

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<v Speaker 1>a question about their work, their school work, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>coming to me, They're coming to their mall. So the

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<v Speaker 1>least I can do is cook breakfast in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the pe teacher though. I'm oh, yeah, I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do that. We're playing golf and enjoying them. So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, last one, would you rather put a stop

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<v Speaker 1>to war or end world hunger. Um, in world hunger.

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<v Speaker 1>For people to be hungry, that's something that I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stand by and watch. It's hard for me even to see, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know people you know saying you go to a store.

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<v Speaker 1>There's people sometimes you see out there or the homeless

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<v Speaker 1>and they want something to eat. It's hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>to go into that story and come out with what

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<v Speaker 1>I have in my hand and I give them something

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<v Speaker 1>like I just that always has gotten to me. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I do it at Thanksgiving time

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<v Speaker 1>is I feed you know, families. Um, everything's given. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that's always been on my heart. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate that man that was breakers there. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the that's textbook right there to see me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm patting myself and yourself. So he gave us some

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<v Speaker 1>bread crumbs, and I think it's going to lead us

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<v Speaker 1>to some to some other stuff. You gave us some

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<v Speaker 1>bread crumbs. Where are you from and the place you

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<v Speaker 1>call your hometown? Wow? Where I consider you know where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from and my hometown to different places. So where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from it's actually a small country town. Marlon Rosebud

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, Marlon and Rose Buds because that's where

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<v Speaker 1>my parents originated from, you know, and so obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>originated from there as well. And so my mom was

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<v Speaker 1>born and raised in a small town of Marlin, and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was born in small town and Rose But

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<v Speaker 1>those two towns are about ten minutes from each other,

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<v Speaker 1>right up the street, right small country towns, and so

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, I was raised um in those towns,

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<v Speaker 1>running around on those those dirt roads and feeding pigs

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, doing all those things. When I turned

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<v Speaker 1>about I think it was about seven, I moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Waco and for the rest of my life, I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in Waco. So I considered Waco my hometown because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I went to high school, that's where I graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I kind of made my name at I

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<v Speaker 1>as you know. And so yeah that I was say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from Marlin and Rosebud, but my hometown it's Waco.

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<v Speaker 1>What would those experience like for you growing up? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>early on I think it was, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>real humble beginnings. You know, because when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>small country towns, man, you know, everyone in the town,

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<v Speaker 1>they know you. Um, it's that whole mindset of you

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<v Speaker 1>getting raised by village, right, you know, because your neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>may discipline you sometimes if they see you doing something wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna die. Yes, Oh it's old school, no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And so, um, you know, Wayco was more

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<v Speaker 1>like you know it was, it was bigger, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was. It's a small city, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was bigger. And so I hold on. Explain to us

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<v Speaker 1>when you say humble beginnings. I'm a city boy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from so concrete Jungles is considered humble beginnings. Explain smith

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<v Speaker 1>what is you know, Smithy but humble beginning, city folk? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a city folks, Steve, and then my boy Gerard,

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<v Speaker 1>he's uh, I's from North Carolina, He's from X So

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<v Speaker 1>his humble beginners. And you know my you know uh

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<v Speaker 1>other boy and and and booking backstage Joe he's from

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas and Nashville and he actually went to Long Beach State.

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<v Speaker 1>So his humble beginners a city too, right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I need to understand because right now you're slaying

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<v Speaker 1>something in there said feeding pigs. Yeah, I see, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you. I thought you missed that those early years. Man, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one through like I think from the time

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<v Speaker 1>I was one through a problem about ten years old.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say humble beginners, I mean, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>like living the life of feeding pigs, going in the slop,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going into mud, pigs living a bunch of mud,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's just a bunch of it's nasty

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<v Speaker 1>out there, right, and so everything you eat now you

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<v Speaker 1>save it, and that's what they eat. You go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and you you feed the pigs. And then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>where you think we get baking and pork chops and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Bro. So there was times, man. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my first time saying my my dad and my

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<v Speaker 1>uncle's like, you know, slaughter or goat. Man, it almost

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<v Speaker 1>traumatized me, dude, Like I remember the vision like it

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<v Speaker 1>was yesterday. So me and my younger brother, my dad

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<v Speaker 1>called us around to my uncle's house and we went

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<v Speaker 1>around there and I saw the goat hanging up in

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<v Speaker 1>the tree, and I'm thinking to myself, what are they

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<v Speaker 1>for to do with this goat? You know, you skipping

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<v Speaker 1>over a lot of kiss Keep it simple, Steve, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. You asked the about humble beginners. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want you to walk me through these humble

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<v Speaker 1>beginnings because you said it's traumatized. You went from their

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<v Speaker 1>hanging from the I want to know, like, how did

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<v Speaker 1>he say, Dany come on over there? Hey, boy, get

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<v Speaker 1>over here. We're about to go over Uncle Luke house

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<v Speaker 1>and we're about to get we're about to eat and

0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna work. Hey. It was like this, Uh my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was already over there, and my mom comes

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<v Speaker 1>to me and my brother and said, hey, your dad

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<v Speaker 1>wants you over your uncle house. Y'all going to walk

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<v Speaker 1>around there for what? He didn't tell me why? You

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<v Speaker 1>just get over there? Yeah, you don't get Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know I know he's gonna ask why. And

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<v Speaker 1>she probably popped them upside of the head too. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you by asking me why. Hey, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going around there and the first thing I see,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is this goat in the treat and my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and cools there standing around drinking beer of course,

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<v Speaker 1>um and so old milwakee. Y'a don't know no about

0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that mist it's two for one with a sticker. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the cheap. That's that cheap next to the bag of

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<v Speaker 1>cheap chips. We're acting a cigarette at the gas station.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what I'm talking about. Slightly, So Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to be about man. I had to be

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<v Speaker 1>about seven years old. And my dad comes over and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, all right, I'm gonna show y'all what well

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna eat this goal tonight. But I'm gonna show

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<v Speaker 1>y'all how we processing, how we're gonna kill it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get the meat out and then we're gonna cook

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<v Speaker 1>it later on. So this is what you're gonna eat tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how you survive. I'm seven years old, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Dad, don't kill that. Go. I'm like, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it, man, don't don't care to go. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt bad for the goal. You know, it's it's yelling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yelling like those type of experiences they never leave you.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't say nothing. He said wash this basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>they went over and they they did at me in

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say that, and I cried. I started crying,

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<v Speaker 1>and my dad, you know, he he was just like this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what being a man is about. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what being a man is about. Stop crying. I'm asking,

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<v Speaker 1>But I assume you didn't eat that goat for dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know, sir, I did. No, sir, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not eat that go I couldn't. You got a

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<v Speaker 1>whooping for either, Yeah, I probably so. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>the whooping. I just remember the goat probably got mad

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<v Speaker 1>that you did. You didn't tough enough. And and he

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<v Speaker 1>saw it. Not when he was doing it, because you cried,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was also doing it. But then that afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>he probably had in his mind, like me and you are,

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<v Speaker 1>that boy better eat that goat. I saw him crying.

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<v Speaker 1>He better suck up them tears and eat that goat.

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<v Speaker 1>If he don't eat that goal, he probably had a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with your mom. If he don't eat that goal,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling hoping his ass and he going. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>straight to his room from the from the dinner table

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<v Speaker 1>to his room. He going to bed. And don't come

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<v Speaker 1>up there and try to help him. Either don't and

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<v Speaker 1>don't get him nothing else. I've been asked for no

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's cause we ain't got no McDonald's money, no chills,

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<v Speaker 1>not at at that time McDonald's, please man, McDonald's was

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't no McDonald's within thirty miles of us. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so you didn't eat the go because you was traumatized. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what I ate that night either, but

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't eat that go May about eight. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably ate the vegetables. I'm sure we had like

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<v Speaker 1>greens and mashed potatoes and you know all that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably ate the rest of that, but left to

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<v Speaker 1>go a long, I've never eaten a goat mhm this

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<v Speaker 1>day forward, I would never eat to go You know

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<v Speaker 1>some things, man, something's just as a kid. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it traumatizes you. You know where you you won't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to mess with any goats. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know the crazy thing now, Like I'm a I'm a hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love going hunting for deer as I call

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it buck. I love buck hunting. You know, I love

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<v Speaker 1>hogs going hunting for hogs. But goats, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I leave him alone, man, Let I let him make it.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to take a break and the morning a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>podcast dot com. How to grown up your hometown, impact

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<v Speaker 1>and shape your view on the world today. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain things that you see when you're young

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:59.479
<v Speaker 1>that you don't realize. Things like, you know, the school

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:04.159
<v Speaker 1>that I went too and the Crosstown rival school. You know,

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>they they school was was better than ours. They were

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<v Speaker 1>able to build a brand new school during my time

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in high school where we still had this old school

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<v Speaker 1>on my side of town. They were able to build

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new football stadium while I was in school

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<v Speaker 1>where we played on the football field that we had

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<v Speaker 1>to share with another high school. You know. And you

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize these things until you get older and you

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<v Speaker 1>see the disparity sometimes in different communities. Um, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're growing up, you you you you may do

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<v Speaker 1>with what you have, as you guys know, you don't

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>complain about none. You you know, you work for everything

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you you get, and you earn everything you get. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you get older and you're able to see some

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of the disparities in these communities, it shapes you because

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you start a foundation. It makes you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back into these communities and provide scholarships to

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<v Speaker 1>these kids that are you know, might not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go to college, or feed people that that need

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>dinners and can't feed themselves, things like that. And that's

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>how it shaped me um And so I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I continue to be heavily involved in

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<v Speaker 1>my community and try to uplift my community because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember what it was like growing up there and even

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where, you know, like the neighborhood obviously

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<v Speaker 1>i'm in now, I see all these educational resources that

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<v Speaker 1>are available for the for the children, the kids in

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<v Speaker 1>this area. But if I go to the south side

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>of the the town South Dallas, I don't see any of

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>these educational resources programs for for the kids. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's to me, that's that's a shame, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>still even when I was growing up, it was like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and here it is twenty some years later, thirty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still the same way. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>disparities in our communities. You know, I think people would

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<v Speaker 1>also put it on us athletes to say, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you get your athletic friends and want y'all just

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and put all your money together and go

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<v Speaker 1>fix the problem. You know, I've we've heard that. I've

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>heard that and and seen that obviously on social media

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>as well. And they put the responsibility on athletes. But

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<v Speaker 1>yet athletes are just like everybody else. Hell, they take

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<v Speaker 1>of our checks. We we pay taxes, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>taxes are put in areas that sometimes don't even benefit

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<v Speaker 1>the people who needed the most. It's not your owners

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with, right, Well, you're about you're about product

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<v Speaker 1>just because you've got you've got the resources. This it

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>should take a collective, you know. It takes a collective

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>when people really care. It takes a collective when those

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<v Speaker 1>things impact those communities. Correct, they cross on over to

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>your side of the town. It set your front door.

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<v Speaker 1>You think about the people that are in charge that

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>make policies and legislation. Um, those people in power, they

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>look like the people that are mostly home. Opiois right,

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, meaning when there was wrong war on crack

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<v Speaker 1>or war on drugs. When that phrase came out, they

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the black communities. And so it's hard

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>for you to care about someone when you don't know them,

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>when you can't see them as your brother, when you

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 1>can't see them as, oh, that's my son or my daughter.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It's hard for you to have sympathy for somebody like

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that when when you don't know them. And so my

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>point is, for the longest, that's why we really need

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to change the whole system. Because the laws were set

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>up in the beginning against us, against black folks and

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>people of color and brown people. It was set up

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 1>against us. And so now as we go and try

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to change these legislations, people wonder, oh what you got,

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Why are everyone? Why are you trying to change policies

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and legislations. Well, because it never was for us. But

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>now we actually have people that care about it, people

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that are in those positions of power, so that we

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>can help everyone and minorities and help black and brown people.

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a tough thing to talk about, no question about it, man,

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>But we gotta be we gotta be real with ourselves.

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>We gotta be honest with ourselves. Some of these things

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>are happening is because there's no diversity in these different arenas.

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>There's not enough diversity ownership level, president's level. That's why

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this stuff has happened. In my opinion,

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing people rarely ask you about you, right, Yeah, no,

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you're right, because it's all about the you know, the

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>good stories, right um, the football stories, the juicy stories

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that makes people feel good. And sometimes the way you

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>were raised and where you're from and how you grew

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>up that that doesn't make people feel good. A lot

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of times, it makes people feel guilty and it makes

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>them you know, it makes them feel like they you know,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe they did something wrong, which that it's not their fault,

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, and like there's no reason to be I

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>try to tell people this all the time now, you know,

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>like he can't be mad at at the culture today,

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm so proud of of what these young kids

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>are doing. But my high school was was pretty much

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it was like split down the middle of blacks and Mexicans,

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like probably blacks, you know, forty percent Mexican

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know then the other right, So diversity, you know,

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>is what we're seeing now, and that's why I'm proud

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>because we have a lot more of our white athletes,

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>brothers and sisters, you know, stepping up to support, you know,

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this social justice issue that we have going on. So

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm proud now. But it wasn't, as we know,

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't always like that because people felt ashame. They

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to get involved. They want to stay in

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>their own little bubble, their own little world or community

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't have to deal with And it was

0:30:56.320 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>like I was saying before when and you you mentioned it, Steve,

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:02.719
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to deal with it if it's not

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>at the front door. And so that's what we've dealt

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>with for a long time is oh, that's not affecting us,

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>so we don't really care about it. Well that's changing

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>now and that's what I'm most proud of and and

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>hopefully it continues to change for the sake of our children. Um,

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, because man, you know, it's it's been it's

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>been a tough it's been a tough eight years. I'll

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>say since twelve when all this social justice stuff started

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>happening and this Black Lives Matter movement started happening. Man,

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>it's been a tough eight years. Man. M. How early

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>did you start playing tackle football? Uh? Seven years old?

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I started playing? Yes, seven, Man, you start early here,

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you know you start early. Now. I begged my mom

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to let me play. I think at that time you

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>can start at six. I want to say, you can

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>start on the junior team. And so for it. For

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>an entire year, I begged my mom to let me play.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>She would not let me play tackle. I played flag football.

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I first played flag when I turned five. I played

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>on the boys and girls club team. And I was cold, right,

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and so I went home. But you know that that's

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>where you get the confidence to be like, I think

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for tackle. So I went home, Mom, I'm

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>ready for tackle. Can I play tackle? No, You're not

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>playing tackle. You're gonna get hurt out there. And for

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a year, man, I begged her, and so finally when

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I turned seven, she let me play. And that was

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.959
<v Speaker 1>the first year I started playing. Now. What else did

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you play as a kid coming up or even in

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the high school? Everything? Basketball, baseball, and track pretty much? Man,

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>year around, I was, I was playing sports. Um, I

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>stayed busy and active playings warts so whatever I could play,

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I played it. How was your high school for you, because,

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like you said, you were killing it at a young gage.

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm sure coming into high school even back then,

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>not to the magnitude it is now for high school players.

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I know they treat I want to say,

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>treated you different in a bad way. But we all

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>know that the the smart kid get treated differently, the

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>sports um, the nerd, right, and and I just say,

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.719
<v Speaker 1>all that is you. I think it's different now today

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>because I watched my kids and they all definitely they

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>intermingled like he used to be a ranking. It was.

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>It was a kind of segment. Yeah, it was, but

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>in a good way. It was a ranking. Or like

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you had the people who are in rock and roll

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>in golf, So you had that group like the golf crowd, yes.

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Then you had the musical crowd, right, who loved playing music,

0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, musicians and instruments. Then you have to urge,

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>right and it's nothing wrong with it. Then you had

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe the hygienic unhygienically clean, right you have, So it

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>was it was the dirty crew compared to now like

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>when my kids now when they have people over I'm like,

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it's all everyone hangs together, Like my daughter had an

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>event at our house one time, and I'm going, it's

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>some real squares something here and you're cool with that,

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>cool dude, Like it's not as clicky as it used. Yeah,

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>like it was dudes walking around like these are some

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>real l seven's up in here, right, And I just right,

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>it just really like I was like, dangn things are different, right,

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you have the athletes, right, then you have

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to you have two pretty girls, right, and I just

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean all of that where you had it and

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>now they're just they co mingle. I mean, everybody's everybody's

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the same. And so that's why I said, like, how

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was it for you being a such a successful athlete

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>going up in high school? I'm wondering, you know, being

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>in a small town. I mean I'm imagining and I'm

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 1>assuming you know that you know, you had a good game,

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you know, in the cafeteria because it was

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>a small town, probably family members he until you did good.

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>This time you get to you you get to Apple's houses.

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, no, my situation was different. So, um, after

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>a great year, my mom, my grandmother gets sick and

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>she's my grandmother's in Marlin. And so my mom, my

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>mom comes to us and says, uh, guys, we need

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to move back to Marland. And you know, we're like what.

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.959
<v Speaker 1>Me and my younger brother My younger brothers three years

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>younger than I, and so we're like, what, what do

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you move back to? Marlon Wine. We've been in Waco

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.720
<v Speaker 1>this whole time, and so obviously we knew that grandma

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>was sick and my mom wanted to move back to

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>be closer tour. So my freshman year I went to

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 1>Marland High School. That was the only year I went there.

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>So my freshman year I go there and I made

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>varsity in football, make Barson and basketball, make Barson in baseball,

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>varsity track. This is three a high school now, you know,

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>which is middle of of the role in Texas Texas football.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>And after that year, I pretty much made a name

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>for myself my freshman year, right, and maybe it was

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it actually was like that Steve in Marlon my freshman year.

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:54.439
<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh man, this kid is gonna be incredible, right,

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>And so in the cafeteria, yeah, two apple sauces to

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>two chocolate milks. You know what, I'm saying, because you

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>know how it is. Yeah. Continue. So then, um, towards

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year, my mom comes back and says,

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>we're going back to Wacome and so, man, the coaches

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>in Marlon went crazy. I mean, they were trying to

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>get my mom a job to have me stay there.

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 1>It was trying to do everything to keep me at

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that school. It didn't work. Mom said, now we're going

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>back to Waco. So we went back to Waco the

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>summer of my sophomore year. Guys, I walked into the

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>football coach's office, le Roy Coleman, old school dude, right,

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 1>he don't know me from from you know, not saying

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>how you said, I don't know you from Adam Boy exactly.

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Him't HI don't know me, and so I get in.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I get in his office. We're talking and he said,

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>someone one position you played. I said, coach, I play

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>tail back and I play safety. He said, oh, I

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>know you don't. He said, we got tailbacks. You're gonna

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>play at fullback. Hey, Steve, that was the first time

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I got humble as a kid. That thought. He was,

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the best thing smoking This man told me

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna play tailbacker. You're gonna play fullback. And

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>so I had a decision to make at that time,

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the first time I've ever been told no that I

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>can't play the position I want to, I said, Man,

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I actually thought about not playing football. I thought about

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:29.439
<v Speaker 1>just saying, man, I'm gonna play baseball and basketball. Went home,

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>had a conversation with my mom. She said, you're not

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>You're not quitting football. She said, you're the one that's

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>been since you were six. You said, this is what

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you love to do, and you want to go to

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. So you're not quitting. You're gonna stick it

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>out and you're gonna play the position that man's asking

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you to play. I said, yes, ma'am. You know. So

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>for the next two years, guys, my sophomore in junior year,

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I played fullback an outside line backer. I was blocking

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:03.919
<v Speaker 1>for like these little scat backs, like guys look like spros. Right,

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Look he's so hot, saying scat back. He said, sat back.

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 1>But that ain't really what he said, Yeah, man, it was.

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>It was rough. And then my senior year coach called

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>me in the office the summer my senior year and

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>he said, son, you have done everything that we asked

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you to do over these last two years. He says,

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>your show. Now. He said, you're gonna be the running back.

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And from there, man, I took off first game six touchdowns,

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the end of the year yards thirty

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>nine touchdowns and the rest is history. Wow. So tell

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>us about your very unique senior year, though it's for

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>home front. Yeah. So, uh, you know my mom, as

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys probably know now, she has she has in

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>tendencee of moving around a little bit. So right before

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>my senior year, my mom comes and says, hey, we're

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna move to Dallas. There's an opportunity, you know,

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>for my stepdad to go up there and work. We're

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave Waco. And I had a conversation. Now I'm

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.399
<v Speaker 1>seventeen at that time, I had a conversation with my mom.

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, Mom, listen, I said, if I go to

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Dallas now, I have no chance of getting a scholarship,

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>no chance. I hadn't been offered at that point going

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>into my senior I had no offers, no schools really

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>talking to me, right. And so I told her, I said,

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>if you take me out now, I said, I'm not

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to college, I won't have a chance,

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and she trusted me. She left, she moved to Dallas

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and she left me and I stayed with a family friend.

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And after that first game, I told y'all, I scored

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>six touchdowns. TCU came that next week and offered me

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>a full scholarship. Wow. Yeah, that's and that's when everything

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of started, you know, it started to take off

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:09.760
<v Speaker 1>in terms of recruiting. How did you ended up picking

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>TCU because there had to be some other schools in

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the mix with what made you see like you as

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a college you want to put them on a map? Yeah, man,

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I just felt sense a loyalty to them. You know,

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>they were the first team. I felt like that really

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>believed in my talent. First team of offer this scholarship

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>first want to show up in my school like hey kid,

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>we want you. And then I just felt like I

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>wanted to play early. I wanted to play my freshman year.

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go on red shirt. And so

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>TCU were telling me you're gonna play like you you're

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>good enough. You're gonna come in here and you're gonna

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>play day one. And you know, all these schools they

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>tell you. Oh, yeah, you're gonna be able to play.

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have a chance to play. But you know,

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times they're lying for some reason. I

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>believe I believe tc you know, I believe them, and

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it came true. I played in every

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>single game from the time my first my first year,

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>my freshman year, first game I rolled out there, I played,

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so it worked out. I felt like

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that was the perfect place for me. Also, I was

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>still close to my mom. Remember I said, my mom

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>moved to the Dallas TCU was in Fort Worth, so

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>that was like a twenty minute drive over to my

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>mom's house. So I can still go to family dinners,

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, my mom go over there and watch clothes

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and and my mom can come to all my games

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. It just felt like the right place for me.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I think it's about that time. Just take a little breather,

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>good good, getting down to do it. Hey Gerard, why

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 1>did you get that T shirt? Oh? Yes, I got

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it from cut to a podcast dot com where we

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at seven

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>or fourth shot. But yeah, you can go on, buy

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you a T shirt, Subscribe to us where if you

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts, I'm gonna ask this question. I know there,

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I know the response that I get, but

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I have to ask in this way because it's also

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you're from the Big Three and that Big three, and

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and for those who don't know what the Big Three is,

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>some of the most decorated, some of the most consistent,

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>some of the superstars you see today in the league

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in Hall of Fame are from the Big Three and

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the Big Three. In this ranking order, California's number one,

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Texas show asked, and number three is North Carolina and

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. Listen, North Carolina aiming on the barbecue top

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>three anyway, Carolina, obviously you're going to TCU. However you

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.919
<v Speaker 1>put yourself on the map. I really remember we're from

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the same draft class. I remember we played in the

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Shrine game together. Well I played mostly he did not.

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>He he just kind of showed up. He was there.

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember if we know I played, I played

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a scene, I played in the senior ball you played in.

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 1>So we were at some events together our senior year.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it was, yeah, I think that was was

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that the premier It might have been the College award.

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>It was the college award deal. And I just all

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the scouts like being all over him, and and I was,

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was just a you know, frail little

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>thing from uh from Utah. And I just remember sitting

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>back going, I wonder what it's like, What did I

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.919
<v Speaker 1>do to you? I didn't do anything. I just more

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I wonder what it's like to

0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 1>be those guys right now. That was my first time

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>really getting attention, you know, because my senior year, I

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>was up for the Hysmanously Steve and I were playing

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in the same division, but we didn't get a lot

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 1>of attention in our division. And the only reason why

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I got attention because I was up with the hisman.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:20.760
<v Speaker 1>And but but if you remember Steve, before the season,

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 1>they had me projected as as like a third round

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>running back. They had Duced McCallister in front of me,

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.959
<v Speaker 1>Lamont Jordan in front of me, They had Travis Henry

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>in front of me. They had all these guys in

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:38.399
<v Speaker 1>front of me. Anthony Thomas had a train. I had

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to I had to, just like you, I had to

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of grind it out and improve to him that

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I was the best. Yeah, you did, and you proved

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>to them. However, I also looking on the outside in,

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 1>it looked like it was a hell of a rhyme. Right,

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't complain about it. You got more free stuff

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>from the outside looking in, watching the guy in the

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.439
<v Speaker 1>green room going to New York, watching that you get

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the call and everybody crying. You know, is that just

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>TV magic? Are we getting the best moment of when

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 1>you got drafted? Because there is a process from when

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you play your last game in college until the moment

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 1>you you were drafted. There's a ton of stuff that

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>goes on that don't make the cameras. Yeah, I felt

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 1>disrespected the whole time, to be honest with you, and

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 1>it started. It started at the Heisman, and man, these

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>things put chips on your shoulder that you never forget.

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So at the Heisman it was myself, was Chris Winky

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Florida State, Josh Hypel Oklahoma, and Drew Brees perduced all

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks and myself. The one thing I remember is being

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:11.760
<v Speaker 1>basically shunned down and kind of Lee Corso. I remember

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>we were on the elevator. Lee Corso gets on and

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 1>he talked. He says high to all the quarterbacks didn't

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>say nothing to me. You know, it was just like

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>who is this dude? You know that it started with that,

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>like I just felt disrespected at the hidsman and then

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you carry that over too to combine. I remember getting

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>on the plane and I was with the Cowboy coaches.

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:41.319
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboy coaches, we were on the same flight, and

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the coaches walked up to me and he said, hey,

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>t you, you know, the only question you need to

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:49.399
<v Speaker 1>answer is how fast are you? You know, we we

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>we think you can be a pretty good running back,

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>but we want to know how fast are you think

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna run? At least the four five? And I

0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh yeah, I run, I run below fourth. Uh.

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, those questions were they were constant

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>to me, you know, like being disrespected, people feeling like

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 1>this guy don't belong here, you know. And so that

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 1>whole time I thought about those things. I thought about

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:23.359
<v Speaker 1>even even to the point, guys on draft day, if

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you go back and look at it, when they call

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>my name with the fifth overall pick, who did they

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>put the camera on David Terrell from Michigan. They put

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the camera on David Turelle they thought I was him,

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:42.879
<v Speaker 1>So you know, man, but you you just remember disrespect

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 1>like that, and and you know that's that's why you

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>have the chip on your shoulder. And it drove me

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. We're hearing you say this, people

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>would easily assume that I would say, and they go, okay, well,

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of course we're here from Steve. But these are the

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 1>stories you're chippiness, your um, how angry you are, you

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>feel disrespected? You just don't wake up feeling that way.

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>There is it builds over time. And the reason I

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.399
<v Speaker 1>say it is you sitting there on the elevator at

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>the Heisman and Lee Corso not speaking to you, and

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Lee can easily say, well, I didn't know what how overlooked?

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>How can you say that, fool? You are in college football,

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you do announcing, and there's only a handful of us

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that and we're only here for the Heisman and only

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the people, and I'm the only non quarterback and you

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>know they got my mug on the Pathlet be at

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>least right. He had to prep for this event that

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:54.839
<v Speaker 1>he was paid to be at. And so people sometimes

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 1>will not acknowledge or they don't even know that all

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of this off has happened prior to you getting drafted.

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>All this stuff has happened like you. It's funny, you say,

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>David Terrell. I have a David Terrell story for you

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that's funnier. I go to Dick Gerond was the head

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 1>coach for a short period time Chicago Bears. Do you

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>know on my trip to the Chicago Bears, did you

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>know I wasn't even allowed to really meet with all

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff because I wasn't considered a legitimate wide receiver.

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>They flew my black ass to Chicago to talk to

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>me about potentially drafting me, but not not as a

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. They had the I had. So who guess

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 1>who was the assistant wide receiver coach who was in

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>charge kind of walking me around Chicago, which was Todd Haley.

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>He had just got the assistant job because he was

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>another assistant with the Dallas Cowboys. So the real or

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:12.439
<v Speaker 1>the the the coach for the wide receivers wasn't even

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in town. How are you gonna have a potential recruit?

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't even get to position his possession? Coach

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>ain't But you know who they drafted though? Yep, they

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>drafted David Terrell with the Chicago best. That's why all

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the motherfuckers got uh that's why all sunk in two years.

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Screwed that one up, screwed it up. I killed him.

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I had like foecasting for ninety six yards. I hit

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:44.240
<v Speaker 1>him for a slant from like ninety five yards. Second

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 1>player the game till this day, Todd Haley has told

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>me if they would have drafted met in the third

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>rounders wide receiver, they will still have a job in Chicago.

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 1>So he stay, I got the ass all fire. I

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>think the thing did for me. Then you know you

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>appreciate more, you know what I mean, like the certain

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:08.080
<v Speaker 1>things that you like, Steve, Like your first Pro Bowl?

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 1>How much did you appreciate that? You know, Like, I know,

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.280
<v Speaker 1>like my first Pro Bowl man being there, like Jerry

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Rice and Dreams Saying and all these guys, it just

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:21.280
<v Speaker 1>made it more sweeter, Like, yeah, y'all thought I wasn't

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:23.440
<v Speaker 1>good enough, but look at me now I'm at the

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl and so I'm fair to live it up.

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm in Hawaii, you know, like it just made it

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>so much sweeter. I'm sure it was the same for you, Steve,

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>it did, I mean it's it's one of the it's

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the cool stories out did that. It's because

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I went to the Pro Bowl a few times. My son,

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Peyton Um. You know, Troy Palomo is a great dude, right,

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 1>And Troy would play He didn't have kids at the time,

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>so he would play with all the little kids on

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the beach playing football. But Troy had such a he

0:52:56.239 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>was so unique. Troy hit the it's not out of

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>me one time and I got up and I was hot.

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:06.919
<v Speaker 1>He goes many Steve. You know, Troy had a soft

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:11.319
<v Speaker 1>spoken voice. They stay, how does Peyton? And I looked

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:19.279
<v Speaker 1>at him. I wanted to like, excuse me, but he

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was so sucere. He was like man's patent and it's

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 1>it changed. And I was like, he's doing good. I

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>don't even know why the hell. I answered in a

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 1>nice he's doing good, man, thanks for asking. But but

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>it was so cool because that's who he was. Right.

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>But I would have never got the opportunity to know

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 1>about Troy Polamalu and how he was outside of it

0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>because of that uniqueness of going to the Pro Bowl, right,

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my rookie I went to the Pro Bowl

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand one, and I got to you know, I

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>got to see Ray Lewis, I got to see Rob Woodson.

0:53:56.480 --> 0:54:01.240
<v Speaker 1>But the cool thing is I also got to see uh,

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.920
<v Speaker 1>one of my childhood idols when I was in college,

0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Jermaine Lewis for the Baltimore Ravens, a pump returner man

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and that what was called he was cold man, and

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>so got to got to see him, Shannon Sharp and

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>all these people that now I know. But when you're

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 1>growing up and you're trying to and you're trying to

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>live it, man, you sell yourself so short because you've

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:30.279
<v Speaker 1>been so short so much that there's times that you

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>subconsciously believe it. You know, Man, I've been wanting to

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 1>ask you this forever. Bro explain the touchdown celebration. How

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.919
<v Speaker 1>did you come up with that? And what was it? Yeah?

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>It was basically a finger roll. And so basketball was

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>my second favorite sport. You know. I love to play

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 1>basketball even still to this day. Um, And when you

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>think about the guys, the first drill you learn in basketball,

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the first shot is a layup. You learn how to

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>do a layup. It's the easiest drill. Is the first

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>basic fundamental you learning basketball. And so when you start

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to get good at the lay up, what do you

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>do you start the finger roll? Do you get a

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit fancy? So in essence, every time I scored,

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:21.320
<v Speaker 1>now I only did this standing up. So if you

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.279
<v Speaker 1>notice only finger roll, then when I went in standing up.

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:27.439
<v Speaker 1>So basically I was saying as easy as a finger roll.

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I always described it like a play is a painting.

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Each play, you know you basically you know, you create,

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:41.919
<v Speaker 1>you create this this great painting during the play. If

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<v Speaker 1>it results in a touchdown, then who has to sign

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the painting? The of course I do. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I used to sign my painting at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of a touchdown. Figure Row you played with JR. Saying

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.359
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of seasons, you know, I know how

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<v Speaker 1>how much you love Junior and talked about him, but

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<v Speaker 1>what was what was that experience to have him as

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<v Speaker 1>a teammate and it's being such a young player, uh yourself, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the best thing for me JR. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was able to come into a locker

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<v Speaker 1>room with no pressure, like no pressure really having to

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>lead in terms of communication or anything like that. I

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:37.399
<v Speaker 1>can just sit there and watch this all pro, all

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>world guy who was a superstar on and off the field.

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what I did, honestly, for that first year,

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I just watched Junior a lot. You know, I would

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I would ask him so many questions. I know he

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 1>thought at the time, like, man, this kid is all

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>on me. Won't he just stop asking me stuff? But

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was the open book, you know I were.

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Remember he used to get in the cold tub every

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<v Speaker 1>single day. And you know, coming out of college, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I didn't know about the cold tub. At

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<v Speaker 1>least I don't know if you did, Steve, coming out

0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 1>of college, you didn't have no cold Yeah, yeah, we

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't either, So I didn't know about no cold tub.

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I I asked him one time, I said, why do

0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you why do you get in the cold tub every day?

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 1>He said, this is rejuvenate my legs, And he broke

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.360
<v Speaker 1>it down to me, how what it does for you?

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 1>From that from that day, for when he told me

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that I was getting to the cold tub every single

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>day too, I asked him, um, who does his massages?

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, everything that I can think of. I even

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:43.840
<v Speaker 1>asked him, worshould I proposed to my wife? You know,

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>he was one of a kind, and I learned so

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 1>much that I think probably one of the most important

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>things is when you become the face of a franchise

0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 1>is how to deal with all that stuff, how to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the media, how to deal with your teammates,

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:04.360
<v Speaker 1>how to deal with being the you know, the in

0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the public eye and the community, all that kind of stuff.

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And when I became the franchise, the face of the franchise,

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I learned it from Junior. Everything that I did I

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of got from Junior because I was able to

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>see him and go through. So this last segment is

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 1>called the Deep three LT and so basically the whole

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>point of this is to go, like we've said before,

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to go beyond who you were on the field. Steve,

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 1>why don't you hit him with the first question? My

0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>first one. We're here in North Carolina, been here almost

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty years now, and there's someone that lives here, UM

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that you're very familiar with, Marty Schottenheimer. What does Marty

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Schottenheimer meant to you on the personal level? Man? Marty

0:58:54.640 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 1>was Marty was one of a kind man. And the

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>relationship that um he and I had um was was

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 1>beyond the football field and went beyond the football field.

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>He was more like a father figure for myself. Man,

0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and and and and cut to it. Honestly, man, it's

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I work with you and you know we're from the

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 1>two thousand one draft class. But um, from Afar, I've

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 1>always uh admired you. Um you know we we we're

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:32.280
<v Speaker 1>co workers, were friends, classmates. UM, but I've always admired

0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 1>everything about you. Um you know how you conduct your

0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:40.680
<v Speaker 1>app manure that I feel the same way, brother, and

0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you all having me on. Um. He was driving,

0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 1>he was not able. We were not able to get

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a clear connection, so we weren't able to do the

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 1>dep three. Um. However, he did promise to come back

0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 1>on the show, and so we might do Deep six

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.920
<v Speaker 1>or Deep ten whatever. Um, you know, maybe we can

1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:08.800
<v Speaker 1>guilt him into giving us some more great stories. His

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<v Speaker 1>storytelling was unbelievable. That's the that's the biggest one. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just just down to how he could remember,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what is what his dad was doing, what

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<v Speaker 1>his mom said to him, and even how it smelled,

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<v Speaker 1>the smell of the grass, how what what fall reminds

1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:32.320
<v Speaker 1>him of what smell takes you back somewhere. This is

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<v Speaker 1>probably a funny, funny response. But um, I've been married

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<v Speaker 1>to my my lovely wife, my better half, almost twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and in every relationship there are some things that are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, you try to avoid. And what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is, um, my wife loved pork chops. Bro, I

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<v Speaker 1>hated pork chops, don't I know? But I ate work

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<v Speaker 1>for like four years. One day we're in the grocery store,

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<v Speaker 1>me and my wife, and she was getting some pork chops.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, babe, she said, yeah, I soun don't really

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<v Speaker 1>like pork jobs. She said, why didn't you tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, because you like them, Bro, I hate

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<v Speaker 1>pork chops. I've always hated pork chops. And why do

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<v Speaker 1>I hate pork chops? It takes me back. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's the part of you know, this is child abuse now.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom would not allowed me to get up

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<v Speaker 1>from the table until I ate the liver, and so

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<v Speaker 1>how as here's the child abuse. So I I smelled

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this is not pork chops. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>shut up, boy, your food and so I wasn't eating it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she said, you ain't getting from the table

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<v Speaker 1>until you eat. So my stubborn self. Now my brother Ray,

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<v Speaker 1>My brother Ray, he snuck down and through the pork

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<v Speaker 1>chops at the bottom of the trash like he ug

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<v Speaker 1>up the trash throw them in there. I ain't doing

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<v Speaker 1>that because well not, I just wasn't if I get caught,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't eating. So I moved a plate and I

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<v Speaker 1>fell asleep on the dinner table. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 1>my mama woke me up with the next morning? No,

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<v Speaker 1>she woked me up by mid sleep. I was drooling

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<v Speaker 1>on the table and everything. I was in full sleep mode.

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<v Speaker 1>She woke me up by slapping me in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of the head and told me to go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro that hurt my feelings, don't But I ain't no

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<v Speaker 1>damn port and I don't eat por chops. To this day,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not touched a chop or pork in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. We all have things when we're a little

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<v Speaker 1>kid that it resonates with us, and I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>till the day we die, because it is whether I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to use her, traumatized or whatever it is wound,

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<v Speaker 1>it is embedded than us. And for me, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like portos and it's something silly to wear even in

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<v Speaker 1>my rage. I was tiptoeing around it in the pork

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<v Speaker 1>chops section, going, how do I say, only like pork chops? Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I struggle eating them pork chops for four years, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she's like being a good husband instead, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>but here's the crazy part. She would make pork chops.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I when I was playing, she would

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<v Speaker 1>only make pork chops when I was away, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was traveling because with DA's leaving, so we'll have pork chops.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean we don't. You know, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>eat a lot of pork. I tried not to. I

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<v Speaker 1>was raised kind of after that, kind of that time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we didn't really eat a lot of pork

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean it just go look up a pig.

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<v Speaker 1>A pig does not uh, it doesn't sweat, has no

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<v Speaker 1>sweat glands. So everything it eats, it lays in. The

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<v Speaker 1>toxics is in its in the meat. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>pork because of that. So yeah, but it may sound silly,

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<v Speaker 1>and like your smell that takes you back is pork jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know what, And I'm forty one years old.

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<v Speaker 1>You put an I don't sounds I'm good smid My Brother,

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