WEBVTT - The Trick Bag-Probation 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.880 Welcome to another episode of Against the Chronicles. I'm Nor, 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:06.920 I'm still and I'm James McDonald. On the day's episode, 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.119 we're gonna talk about it known to me as a 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:11.760 trick back. I call it a trick back. We gonna 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.319 talk about probation, and I catch as many people up 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.280 on James, you actually have a very powerful story man, 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.080 as far as probation goals. I mean, just like everybody else, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:30.080 I mean, probation is designed to It's like in traveling. Um, 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.239 you know what I didn't know about probation, then I 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.839 could have did a year and a half of probation 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.160 and go back to court and get off. I did 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.400 the whole damnit in three years of the game probation, 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.960 which supposed to be the hardest probation they have. So 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.840 you know, it was a lot of rules to this ship, 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.320 you know, being on that type of probation, you know, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.720 couldn't get caught up with three of the shame people 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.800 that that I hang with. It couldn't be game bangers, 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.480 should I say, Um, they was able to come in 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.240 your house at any time they wanted to, just just 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.520 all different type of ship. So pretty much when you 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.319 said they can come in your house whenever you want to. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.120 So that means you could be sitting at home pretty 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.280 much killing with your girl or something like that. Nick 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.240 is knock on your door, just come in. Yeah, they 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.280 come in, say we wanted to visit. It's like a 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.920 pop up visit. Uh, come on, take me to your room, 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.800 show me where you sleep, which they pretty much know 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.240 already they're going there. They look through your drawers, look 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.360 up one of your mattress. They do all kind of a 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.720 a little ship just to see how you live in. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.319 If you got bullets in your room, they're taking your 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:47.080 ass to jail. A knife ship like that, so you 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.800 can't have no no shy knives and none of that 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.040 ship any wrong. So pretty much if they want to 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.559 be just real pity and you got a little pocket 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.440 knife on the dressing the people usually have, they got 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.840 like a nail clipper and everything else and lots what's 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.200 on me lass, they could technically take you back in 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.040 for that provig They could take you to jail for 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.000 whatever pretty much they want to. You know, data ones 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.160 with the pencil. They can say, okay, you you got 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.080 the homeboy over here. You ain't supposed to be around him, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.960 but a minute. My brothers are gang bangers. So you're 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.440 telling me I gave me in the same house with you, 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.880 they just don't be there. When when they would come 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.840 and you wound up getting volulated pretty much and wanted 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.200 back to go do two years in prison. Yeah you want, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.560 you want to let rim a little bit? What At 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.359 that time, I'm dang banging like like it's the thing 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.120 to do. And they wanted me to come in for 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:45.320 a visit. At that time, I was involved in all 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.639 kind of ships, so I didn't know if somebody they 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.520 had it like a hook up. Guard wanted me to 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.480 come in to arrest me. So I was like that 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.480 that ain't going in there. I'm not working with y'all, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.360 and stop asking the car. I didn't get out of 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.040 the letters, none of that ship they were sending in 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.280 and they was coming by the house, but I was 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.760 missing him, and uh when they finally called me, they 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:11.679 sent me to the county jail. I went to my hand. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.520 I'm I'm clowning telling everybody, I'm only gonna be in 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.919 in fifteen days. I only got like fifteen sixteen days. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.680 She they gave me a year for every week I 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:29.080 didn't come and and It was crazy because I just 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.839 knew they couldn't do that. Whish they couldn't have did that. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.800 I didn't have that much provision. So you pretty much said, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.560 let me read the rate for the people out there. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.320 You had fifteen days of probation left. I had fifteen 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.080 days and I was supposed to either go to court 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:50.760 or get that letter. And they they sent me to prison. Wow, 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:56.160 they sent me to prison old robbery case. And uh, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.800 I pretty much did the whole, the whole goddamn thing 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.720 after the little time that I did, you know, fighting 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:06.640 the case, and then took the deprobation and got out 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.200 and I was good for then until they wanted to 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.720 just they funk with you, and you just get tired 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.320 of going down they're going through that process and giving 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.000 them that fifteen bucks or whatever the case it was, 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.800 and and just sitting there listening to the mother and 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.880 tell you what you ain't and what you can't do. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.359 So it was just like, do whatever you're gonna do. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.320 And I just thought it wasn't that much that you 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:34.120 do with that short period of time. So they they 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.560 pulled the switch on me. So so you pretty much, man, 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.240 you wind up doing two years man behind fifteen days, man, 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.520 And that seems just so unfair. Man. I know that, Um, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.880 the system is definitely broken the country, man, because first 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.880 of all, there's not a uniform system across the country. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.800 You would think was something like that, it would be 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.760 a uniform system across the country like for example, and um, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.960 Oklahoma a man, like it reads right here, the cost 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:06.240 of is up. Cost and prisons right overcrowded prisons is 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.320 projected the skyrocket in the next decade, the decade of 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.279 corrections request at one point five billion dollars next year 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.320 to address loan to collect the refairs and build to 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.200 a new prison to keep up with the current rate 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.520 of inmate growth. They have so much growth in the 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.360 city of the state of Oklahoma right now that they 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.840 need a billion dollars to actually add on to the facilities. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.839 Because the way with the system meals down there. Man, 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.880 if you miss a payment, like I'm talking about, even 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.320 on the traffic ticket, like you know you go to 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.480 courting traffic ticket, if you miss a payment, they come 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.760 and put you in jail. They can but one of 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.920 the things. But I noticed you know that they can 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.159 do that, but usually they send you a letter report 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.360 to your credit man. Just the whole thing about putting 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.840 people in jail over missing the paymon man, they're doing that. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.400 That ship, that's how they're doing um child support. You 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.840 go to jail for child report. The system is designed 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.400 to keep you at bay, to keep you on that edge, 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.280 to keep you fucked up. It ain't it ain't. It 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.640 ain't what they change you, uh rehab A little ship 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:15.360 like that. They're not helping you. Um should I say pages, 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.080 restitution vibes and none of that other ship. I mean, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.880 it's just design to keep you funked up. If you 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.320 chake my driver license because I can't pay this fine, 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.320 how do I eat? And I'm a truck driver. If 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.480 they don't give a funk, you just gotta get that money. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.000 You think about it like this, man, Like this is 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.520 a trip. This is how it goes down home. As 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.000 part of their release on the road, people leaving prison 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.960 are required to follow certain conditions the road. Conditions are 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.520 meant to ensuring him to make successful re entrigued into 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.920 her community. And we're talking about women because most of 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.240 the people in prison women. But if these conditions are 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.120 too explensive, expensive, they're fulfilling them falls out of reach 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.279 for many, if not most. Every month, about six hundred 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.240 inmates to come for role elisable, but only about two 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.800 hundred one and three apply for it, estinisly passing up 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.800 opportunity for early release. This is in part because the 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.920 ROD costs can add up quickly unless of parros, fees 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.720 are Unless of p role, these fees are way for hardship. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.240 Anyone on par role in this state must pay forty 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.960 dollars per month for DC supervision and addition the court 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.560 finds and fees, as well as some additional amount of 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.680 financial restitution depending on the offense, so you can wind 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.760 up paying up three or four hundred dollars a month. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.320 Some people don't got it. In addition to this, a 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.480 parole lead may have to pay for the two years 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.800 of drug tests, a GPS angle bracelet, a breath of 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.560 lizer for their vehicle, and any cognitive behavioral therapy or 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.440 classes which the parole board deems necessary for the release. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.120 These financial obstacles are often compounded by the fact that 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.240 such a large resenting to those on parole has suspended 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:55.360 driver's licensees, making attendant required meetings and maintaining employment remarkably difficult. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:59.320 Some parole conditions are both necessary sery and reasonable, but 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.720 a condition just make employment and paying bills more difficult. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.640 It's hard to see how they promote public safety. See 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.160 this thing right here is crazy. Man. So you're telling 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.000 me you just get out and they say it's usually 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.520 for something petty, right, and they tell you, okay, you 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.120 can want to road. Now, we're gonna need an ankle 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.560 bracelet for you. You have to pay for this. We'll 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.720 give a drug test every month and this, and man, 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:24.800 let's say it's fine for that was a month and 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.680 you're only making a thousand. That was a month that 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.200 didn't That ain't even the case. I just got out 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.800 of prison. I just got out of jail. How do 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.160 you expect me to pay all of this ship that 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:39.000 you want me to pay and take care of myself down? 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.720 You gotta think about where I'm living. It's it's like 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:46.679 I said, man, it's not for you. It's all designed 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.200 for them. And you pretty much asked out. Man. If 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.760 I didn't have a good woman when I got out 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.120 of prison, out have been up. She creek. You You 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.000 you gotta get out there and get it the best 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:02.000 way you can because you can't paid. You don't have 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.880 you don't have them. You don't have the needs for it. Yeah, exactly, man, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.880 because you just get out of jail, you know. And 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.040 you know, man, I've talked to HOMEI Man, they just 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.240 got out. Man, um I had one only man he 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.280 couldn't even get a job of the walmart because he 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.280 was actually he got so frustrated with the system. He 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.000 living his application. Right, you got to lie, you know, 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.679 he was living. He living his application and check this out. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.600 Now he was cool. He actually worked in one store. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.839 Man worked his way up to becoming a manager. They 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.800 transferred him to a different store, right, he got another promotion. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.920 In promoting him, they had to run a background check 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.280 on him. They didn't run an initial background check on 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.679 him because he came in as just a regular clerk. Right. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.440 They ran that background check on the came back, but 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.079 he had a feili he eli but lost his job immediately. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.520 So when's the guys the post to do. It's like 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.840 in this country, man, it seems like you go to 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.719 jail for your punishment, You do your time, get out. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.880 You're still doing time. When does it stop? When did 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.679 you stop paying for your You know what I'm saying, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.559 When do you stop being back your death to socigny. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.839 You're gonna always pay for it. I've been out of 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:12.640 princesses since and they tell me I can't vote. They 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.480 tell me I can't register a gun. They tell me 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:20.200 I can't do ship. If I went to be a 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.720 security officer, I got up to three, I got up 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.880 to thirty days. Ninety days after that, ninety days, I 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.720 better go try to find another gig because every time 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.839 I didn't. You can't work here. After that background check 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.480 name come through, you're done. So if that's all you know, 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.960 you don't have no education, you don't have no no 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:46.599 kind of uh, no kind of skills, mechanics, none of that. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:51.400 Ship man, you pretty much asked out because you can't 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.440 do ship. You gotta go to the streets and eat. Yeah. Man, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.679 it's just crazy, you know. Like I said, Man, every 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:04.000 place is different, Like California's system is different. Oklahoma, it 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.880 seems like they got the worst system in the world. Man, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.400 it ain't too much different. It's all designed the same way. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.400 Big still it is they they is designed to keep 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.720 you off your feet, because if they really wanted to 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.800 help you, just like going to prison. When I get 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.960 out of prison two hundred bucks to where the fund 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.600 is two hundred dollars gonna do for me getting back 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.840 out here after being inconcerated all this time. You know, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.800 I ain't gonna get a job right off the back. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.680 You know, I can't do ship right off the back. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.000 So then when you when you come home, you gotta 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.199 you gotta follow all these rules that these motherfuckers sat 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.640 down for you, so I can't start a job, and 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.760 then I gotta come see you once a week. Ain't 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.520 no new job gonna let me take off to come 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.720 see you, you know what I'm saying. And then before 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.320 I even get a bag check, I gotta pay you. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.959 So me it's like, man, fucking job, fuck this funk 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.760 that it wouldn't happen that. Yeah, you know, it's crazy 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.760 just about the old system period. Man. It seems like, man, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.400 you actually they call it rehabilitation. Man, it seemed like 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.560 it's actually the signed to really just fuck you over there. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:25.160 They have to keep you down, they have to it 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.080 just it just gotta continue to be a cycle. Because 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:33.400 if if if I'm rehabilitated and everybody else is with 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.360 that prison just gonna sit there, so you gotta come back. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:42.920 So they think and the first thing that they said 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.680 when I was being released, we see you, We'll see 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.400 you when you come back. I'm not coming back to this, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.000 but they tell everybody that because the majority of us, 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.360 we go back. If it's just a violation, you going back. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.600 So we'll check this out. Man, How would you feel, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.319 man Um, You're a guy that comes from a background, 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.000 You're getting your life together, right, You have an establishment, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:15.760 and you find out that your employee stealing from you. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.600 You get into an auditation with him and didn't want 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.280 to put you in jail. How would you feel about that? 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.960 If I didn't, I didn't get it. If then if 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.079 he's standing from me, yeah, he's stealing from you. So 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.480 you got an employee, you you work hard, you're busting 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.880 your ass, you get this establishment together, you got a story, right, 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.240 and you find out your employee stealing from you. Actually, 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.079 I got one of my homeboys here tonight right for 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.480 my partners, and he was telling me about this story. Okay, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.680 some of y'all know me and some of y'all don't. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.439 My name is t Y. I'm also known as l 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.199 A Number one huspital Um. I have a company called 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.200 fat Head, and I started out in l a in 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:01.319 the streets, grinding, hustling with actually would have developed eighty 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.760 pat and take it all the way to fifty birds, 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:08.000 but lead at and I wouldn't legit. Never had no 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.240 problems with the police. As far as I'm catching the case, 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.640 I never did that, and I want legit started a 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.360 business call fat Head opened up a store on mail rolls, 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:24.160 FAD's clothing, um Art, posters for your wall, all kind 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.000 of different little things that I had created. Make a 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.560 long story short. I had a twenty square foot warehouse 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.840 out of North Hollywood, and I got a call one 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.560 day from my girl while I was at my store, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.640 telling me my employees were still in at my factory. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:47.680 And because I had the store, I just recently opened it, 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.360 I had took some of my employers from my factory 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.040 out to the store work, so everybody knew each other 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.320 from the factory to the store. So we um. When 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.120 I got that call. My guys that was at the 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.680 store was like, man, should we want to go back 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.160 to the to be rich? You? I really want to 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.840 just go HND to myself. I don't have a problem 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.920 hand myself, but they insisted, so we went back. The 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.880 plan was for me to take the big guy and 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.240 search him in the back end. My other two guys 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.920 take the other guy and search him anyway. Um, they 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.480 both aske it on and they got their ass. What 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.520 as a businessman I want to ask as a brother 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.720 growing up in the street, knowing every obstacle I hadn't 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.680 made it through. I slipped. I didn't handle it like 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.480 a businessman. So really, like in the eyes of the law, 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.120 just to go back, in the eyes of the law, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.200 you should have called the authorities. But that goes against 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.960 every principle that we are talking growing up. You know, 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.640 you don't call the police home, right? Was these your 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.000 partners are just some people you hired. These were some 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.960 guys that have worked for me for three years. The 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.360 ladies that came and told my girl they worked for 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.720 me for five years, and some spanion cats and the 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.160 Spanish ladies came and told, hey, they're still in the 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:05.280 back building. What she called me? So when we went back, 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.840 like I said, um, out of handle like a businessman. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.760 And it's all kind of ways of handle it. You know, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:12.920 I used to thank kind of stupid to be honest 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.680 with you. Always thought I was thinking smart. I always 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.320 used to think um, I wouldn't have my buddies, my 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.080 guys that worked for me, that's willing to do anything 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.240 in the world for me. I wouldn't have him do 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.479 nothing that I wouldn't do. That was the wrong mentality 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:33.080 to period, because the boss is supposed to keep it going. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.080 That's what your fellows was there for. So my mentality 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.960 wasn't right. You know what I'm saying. I'm thinking, like ship, 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.040 I'm not gonna do nothing. I didn't have to do nothing, 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.360 and I had millions, millions I left millions. I left 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.120 from flying on private playing all that, you know, to 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.960 stay prison because of one slip. That was hard to 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.080 be like the Twilight Zone, man, But you just thinking. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.160 Let me ask you this now, what happened to the 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.600 employees of the guys that were stealing? Did they ever 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.160 getting anything? So there as she caught the police on you, 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:11.680 they couldn't help it because the ass weapon, they needed 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.320 to go to the hospital. So at the hospital, the 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:22.560 doctor's automatically called the police, but they participated. Police got involved. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.480 But let me tell you this too, so it's a trip. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.439 I hadn't thought about it like this. So one day 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.760 I was talking about one of my guys that had 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:35.359 cost some time too. Man, the guys were illegal. I 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.480 don't have nothing against nobody. Spanish, gaze whatever you is, 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.600 that's what you is. Period. These guys were illegal. I 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.719 hired them, they was working for me. But there's Spanish 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:49.680 and illegal and it's amazing how they're here. They're illegal 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.880 and you can still get punished for something with them 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.800 even being here illegal and that that that's that's crazy 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.680 as here they already I mean, they already here illegal 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:03.919 because said of me, if they wouldn't have been here, 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.000 they're not supposed to be anyway. If they were when 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:07.399 they were supposed to be, they wouldn't be here to 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.640 get to ask. But that don't that actually, it don't matter. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.680 It don't matter. What the police are saying. Is a crime, right, 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.600 you got to three kts in the hospital, right, that's 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.800 an assault. Right. And even though I was just saying it, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.680 even though those them them are legal, people could have 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.800 sued him, Yeah, could have could have had a lawsuit. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.440 They were still tried to They tried to assume me 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.000 for five hundred thousand. I was each as a matter 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.159 of fact, when he was in court when I was 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.720 going through my trap because I went through a trap. Um, 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.119 they have served us some papers, but my lawyer was 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.040 smart enough to say, don't take it, don't accept it. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.640 They came to serve some paperwork and I've never accepted 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:57.040 it and they never falled through with it. That's crazy. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.639 But I mean, I mean, you know, that's that's what 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.360 I tell normal all the time. This ship is designed 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.760 to keep us down, to bring us down, And at 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.920 the end of the day, in the heat of the moment, 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.160 you really don't have a choice because motherfucker's taken out 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.280 of your table. And and this the mentality we had 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.720 to have a choice. Yeah, you had a choice. And 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:20.879 to be honest with you, I could have handled it 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.520 if I wanted to steal, keeping gangster, if I wanted 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.440 to steal put hands on. I could have had a 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.040 little different. I could have let him walk down the 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.680 street and turn the corner right and act like I 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.720 don't know who did it. You know what I'm saying. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.359 I mean, I'm just saying it's all kind of ways 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.560 to do something. I mean, which, like I said, I 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.080 would have handled it different today. I would have it different. 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.560 I give him a bag to put the ship in 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.000 and get home, right, now you learn from from from 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.800 your states. But I mean at that time, you know, 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.680 especially being on the grind and then going to jig, 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.520 I mean, you gotta feel a certain kind of way. Man. 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.560 You gotta feel viole lady, that these motherfucker's would even 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.159 do that. I gave you a job and this is 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.240 what the things that if you get there on anything. 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.440 I mean, I think my reaction would have been the 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.119 same way. I think about the consequences later. But in 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:12.760 today's society, you have to think about the counts. Yeah, 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.639 that's that's that's where we come from. That's where we 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:18.800 get it from. But to be honest with you, we 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:23.400 gotta grow. We we can't result to violence with everything. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.399 You know what I'm saying. I really do believe that. 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.560 You know what I'm saying. Do you regret what you did? Man? 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.080 To be honest with you, I'm the type of person 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.600 I don't never look at something as I regret it 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.000 because I lived it, so I don't have I don't 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.040 even have no room to try to regret it. It 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.560 is what it is. All I do is just move 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.800 on and ship and keep it going. It was the 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.480 most hurting situation why I was in there. Man, I've 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.159 never experienced like they test my mental tests everything, you 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.960 know what I'm saying. But I don't never sit back 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:02.720 like damn. If I didn't do that, I would have 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.600 had this or I did that. I don't get down 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.719 like that. I just keep on going just out of curiosity. Man. 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.639 How much was how much did they steal? Yeah? Probably 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:17.240 about eight thousand dollars worth of ship each, maybe one 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:22.159 six dollars one eight thousand. My my stuff was expensive purchase. 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.040 I was. I was a customer. From the thing is, 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.199 you have to quantify that six eight thousand they had 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.440 the four thousand because that was just the first time 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.199 they got cut. That that was the first time they 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:38.040 got cut, so they ain't tell them using they usually 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:39.879 been doing the you know what I mean, they just 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.359 got coming and believe me, at that point in time, 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.159 my thought was when they got caught with that much stuff, 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.200 after they got their ass worked, after it was in 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.080 the hospital, because the police can't come and get me 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.920 for eleven days later. But my thought was to rump 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.320