Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Against the Chronicles. I'm Nor,
Speaker 1: I'm still and I'm James McDonald. On the day's episode,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it known to me as a
Speaker 1: trick back. I call it a trick back. We gonna
Speaker 1: talk about probation, and I catch as many people up
Speaker 1: on James, you actually have a very powerful story man,
Speaker 1: as far as probation goals. I mean, just like everybody else,
Speaker 1: I mean, probation is designed to It's like in traveling. Um,
Speaker 1: you know what I didn't know about probation, then I
Speaker 1: could have did a year and a half of probation
Speaker 1: and go back to court and get off. I did
Speaker 1: the whole damnit in three years of the game probation,
Speaker 1: which supposed to be the hardest probation they have. So
Speaker 1: you know, it was a lot of rules to this ship,
Speaker 1: you know, being on that type of probation, you know,
Speaker 1: couldn't get caught up with three of the shame people
Speaker 1: that that I hang with. It couldn't be game bangers,
Speaker 1: should I say, Um, they was able to come in
Speaker 1: your house at any time they wanted to, just just
Speaker 1: all different type of ship. So pretty much when you
Speaker 1: said they can come in your house whenever you want to.
Speaker 1: So that means you could be sitting at home pretty
Speaker 1: much killing with your girl or something like that. Nick
Speaker 1: is knock on your door, just come in. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: come in, say we wanted to visit. It's like a
Speaker 1: pop up visit. Uh, come on, take me to your room,
Speaker 1: show me where you sleep, which they pretty much know
Speaker 1: already they're going there. They look through your drawers, look
Speaker 1: up one of your mattress. They do all kind of a
Speaker 1: a little ship just to see how you live in.
Speaker 1: If you got bullets in your room, they're taking your
Speaker 1: ass to jail. A knife ship like that, so you
Speaker 1: can't have no no shy knives and none of that
Speaker 1: ship any wrong. So pretty much if they want to
Speaker 1: be just real pity and you got a little pocket
Speaker 1: knife on the dressing the people usually have, they got
Speaker 1: like a nail clipper and everything else and lots what's
Speaker 1: on me lass, they could technically take you back in
Speaker 1: for that provig They could take you to jail for
Speaker 1: whatever pretty much they want to. You know, data ones
Speaker 1: with the pencil. They can say, okay, you you got
Speaker 1: the homeboy over here. You ain't supposed to be around him,
Speaker 1: but a minute. My brothers are gang bangers. So you're
Speaker 1: telling me I gave me in the same house with you,
Speaker 1: they just don't be there. When when they would come
Speaker 1: and you wound up getting volulated pretty much and wanted
Speaker 1: back to go do two years in prison. Yeah you want,
Speaker 1: you want to let rim a little bit? What At
Speaker 1: that time, I'm dang banging like like it's the thing
Speaker 1: to do. And they wanted me to come in for
Speaker 1: a visit. At that time, I was involved in all
Speaker 1: kind of ships, so I didn't know if somebody they
Speaker 1: had it like a hook up. Guard wanted me to
Speaker 1: come in to arrest me. So I was like that
Speaker 1: that ain't going in there. I'm not working with y'all,
Speaker 1: and stop asking the car. I didn't get out of
Speaker 1: the letters, none of that ship they were sending in
Speaker 1: and they was coming by the house, but I was
Speaker 1: missing him, and uh when they finally called me, they
Speaker 1: sent me to the county jail. I went to my hand.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm clowning telling everybody, I'm only gonna be in
Speaker 1: in fifteen days. I only got like fifteen sixteen days.
Speaker 1: She they gave me a year for every week I
Speaker 1: didn't come and and It was crazy because I just
Speaker 1: knew they couldn't do that. Whish they couldn't have did that.
Speaker 1: I didn't have that much provision. So you pretty much said,
Speaker 1: let me read the rate for the people out there.
Speaker 1: You had fifteen days of probation left. I had fifteen
Speaker 1: days and I was supposed to either go to court
Speaker 1: or get that letter. And they they sent me to prison. Wow,
Speaker 1: they sent me to prison old robbery case. And uh,
Speaker 1: I pretty much did the whole, the whole goddamn thing
Speaker 1: after the little time that I did, you know, fighting
Speaker 1: the case, and then took the deprobation and got out
Speaker 1: and I was good for then until they wanted to
Speaker 1: just they funk with you, and you just get tired
Speaker 1: of going down they're going through that process and giving
Speaker 1: them that fifteen bucks or whatever the case it was,
Speaker 1: and and just sitting there listening to the mother and
Speaker 1: tell you what you ain't and what you can't do.
Speaker 1: So it was just like, do whatever you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: And I just thought it wasn't that much that you
Speaker 1: do with that short period of time. So they they
Speaker 1: pulled the switch on me. So so you pretty much, man,
Speaker 1: you wind up doing two years man behind fifteen days, man,
Speaker 1: And that seems just so unfair. Man. I know that, Um,
Speaker 1: the system is definitely broken the country, man, because first
Speaker 1: of all, there's not a uniform system across the country.
Speaker 1: You would think was something like that, it would be
Speaker 1: a uniform system across the country like for example, and um,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma a man, like it reads right here, the cost
Speaker 1: of is up. Cost and prisons right overcrowded prisons is
Speaker 1: projected the skyrocket in the next decade, the decade of
Speaker 1: corrections request at one point five billion dollars next year
Speaker 1: to address loan to collect the refairs and build to
Speaker 1: a new prison to keep up with the current rate
Speaker 1: of inmate growth. They have so much growth in the
Speaker 1: city of the state of Oklahoma right now that they
Speaker 1: need a billion dollars to actually add on to the facilities.
Speaker 1: Because the way with the system meals down there. Man,
Speaker 1: if you miss a payment, like I'm talking about, even
Speaker 1: on the traffic ticket, like you know you go to
Speaker 1: courting traffic ticket, if you miss a payment, they come
Speaker 1: and put you in jail. They can but one of
Speaker 1: the things. But I noticed you know that they can
Speaker 1: do that, but usually they send you a letter report
Speaker 1: to your credit man. Just the whole thing about putting
Speaker 1: people in jail over missing the paymon man, they're doing that.
Speaker 1: That ship, that's how they're doing um child support. You
Speaker 1: go to jail for child report. The system is designed
Speaker 1: to keep you at bay, to keep you on that edge,
Speaker 1: to keep you fucked up. It ain't it ain't. It
Speaker 1: ain't what they change you, uh rehab A little ship
Speaker 1: like that. They're not helping you. Um should I say pages,
Speaker 1: restitution vibes and none of that other ship. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just design to keep you funked up. If you
Speaker 1: chake my driver license because I can't pay this fine,
Speaker 1: how do I eat? And I'm a truck driver. If
Speaker 1: they don't give a funk, you just gotta get that money.
Speaker 1: You think about it like this, man, Like this is
Speaker 1: a trip. This is how it goes down home. As
Speaker 1: part of their release on the road, people leaving prison
Speaker 1: are required to follow certain conditions the road. Conditions are
Speaker 1: meant to ensuring him to make successful re entrigued into
Speaker 1: her community. And we're talking about women because most of
Speaker 1: the people in prison women. But if these conditions are
Speaker 1: too explensive, expensive, they're fulfilling them falls out of reach
Speaker 1: for many, if not most. Every month, about six hundred
Speaker 1: inmates to come for role elisable, but only about two
Speaker 1: hundred one and three apply for it, estinisly passing up
Speaker 1: opportunity for early release. This is in part because the
Speaker 1: ROD costs can add up quickly unless of parros, fees
Speaker 1: are Unless of p role, these fees are way for hardship.
Speaker 1: Anyone on par role in this state must pay forty
Speaker 1: dollars per month for DC supervision and addition the court
Speaker 1: finds and fees, as well as some additional amount of
Speaker 1: financial restitution depending on the offense, so you can wind
Speaker 1: up paying up three or four hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 1: Some people don't got it. In addition to this, a
Speaker 1: parole lead may have to pay for the two years
Speaker 1: of drug tests, a GPS angle bracelet, a breath of
Speaker 1: lizer for their vehicle, and any cognitive behavioral therapy or
Speaker 1: classes which the parole board deems necessary for the release.
Speaker 1: These financial obstacles are often compounded by the fact that
Speaker 1: such a large resenting to those on parole has suspended
Speaker 1: driver's licensees, making attendant required meetings and maintaining employment remarkably difficult.
Speaker 1: Some parole conditions are both necessary sery and reasonable, but
Speaker 1: a condition just make employment and paying bills more difficult.
Speaker 1: It's hard to see how they promote public safety. See
Speaker 1: this thing right here is crazy. Man. So you're telling
Speaker 1: me you just get out and they say it's usually
Speaker 1: for something petty, right, and they tell you, okay, you
Speaker 1: can want to road. Now, we're gonna need an ankle
Speaker 1: bracelet for you. You have to pay for this. We'll
Speaker 1: give a drug test every month and this, and man,
Speaker 1: let's say it's fine for that was a month and
Speaker 1: you're only making a thousand. That was a month that
Speaker 1: didn't That ain't even the case. I just got out
Speaker 1: of prison. I just got out of jail. How do
Speaker 1: you expect me to pay all of this ship that
Speaker 1: you want me to pay and take care of myself down?
Speaker 1: You gotta think about where I'm living. It's it's like
Speaker 1: I said, man, it's not for you. It's all designed
Speaker 1: for them. And you pretty much asked out. Man. If
Speaker 1: I didn't have a good woman when I got out
Speaker 1: of prison, out have been up. She creek. You You
Speaker 1: you gotta get out there and get it the best
Speaker 1: way you can because you can't paid. You don't have
Speaker 1: you don't have them. You don't have the needs for it. Yeah, exactly, man,
Speaker 1: because you just get out of jail, you know. And
Speaker 1: you know, man, I've talked to HOMEI Man, they just
Speaker 1: got out. Man, um I had one only man he
Speaker 1: couldn't even get a job of the walmart because he
Speaker 1: was actually he got so frustrated with the system. He
Speaker 1: living his application. Right, you got to lie, you know,
Speaker 1: he was living. He living his application and check this out.
Speaker 1: Now he was cool. He actually worked in one store.
Speaker 1: Man worked his way up to becoming a manager. They
Speaker 1: transferred him to a different store, right, he got another promotion.
Speaker 1: In promoting him, they had to run a background check
Speaker 1: on him. They didn't run an initial background check on
Speaker 1: him because he came in as just a regular clerk. Right.
Speaker 1: They ran that background check on the came back, but
Speaker 1: he had a feili he eli but lost his job immediately.
Speaker 1: So when's the guys the post to do. It's like
Speaker 1: in this country, man, it seems like you go to
Speaker 1: jail for your punishment, You do your time, get out.
Speaker 1: You're still doing time. When does it stop? When did
Speaker 1: you stop paying for your You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: When do you stop being back your death to socigny.
Speaker 1: You're gonna always pay for it. I've been out of
Speaker 1: princesses since and they tell me I can't vote. They
Speaker 1: tell me I can't register a gun. They tell me
Speaker 1: I can't do ship. If I went to be a
Speaker 1: security officer, I got up to three, I got up
Speaker 1: to thirty days. Ninety days after that, ninety days, I
Speaker 1: better go try to find another gig because every time
Speaker 1: I didn't. You can't work here. After that background check
Speaker 1: name come through, you're done. So if that's all you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have no education, you don't have no no
Speaker 1: kind of uh, no kind of skills, mechanics, none of that.
Speaker 1: Ship man, you pretty much asked out because you can't
Speaker 1: do ship. You gotta go to the streets and eat. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy, you know. Like I said, Man, every
Speaker 1: place is different, Like California's system is different. Oklahoma, it
Speaker 1: seems like they got the worst system in the world. Man,
Speaker 1: it ain't too much different. It's all designed the same way.
Speaker 1: Big still it is they they is designed to keep
Speaker 1: you off your feet, because if they really wanted to
Speaker 1: help you, just like going to prison. When I get
Speaker 1: out of prison two hundred bucks to where the fund
Speaker 1: is two hundred dollars gonna do for me getting back
Speaker 1: out here after being inconcerated all this time. You know,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna get a job right off the back.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't do ship right off the back.
Speaker 1: So then when you when you come home, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta follow all these rules that these motherfuckers sat
Speaker 1: down for you, so I can't start a job, and
Speaker 1: then I gotta come see you once a week. Ain't
Speaker 1: no new job gonna let me take off to come
Speaker 1: see you, you know what I'm saying. And then before
Speaker 1: I even get a bag check, I gotta pay you.
Speaker 1: So me it's like, man, fucking job, fuck this funk
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't happen that. Yeah, you know, it's crazy
Speaker 1: just about the old system period. Man. It seems like, man,
Speaker 1: you actually they call it rehabilitation. Man, it seemed like
Speaker 1: it's actually the signed to really just fuck you over there.
Speaker 1: They have to keep you down, they have to it
Speaker 1: just it just gotta continue to be a cycle. Because
Speaker 1: if if if I'm rehabilitated and everybody else is with
Speaker 1: that prison just gonna sit there, so you gotta come back.
Speaker 1: So they think and the first thing that they said
Speaker 1: when I was being released, we see you, We'll see
Speaker 1: you when you come back. I'm not coming back to this,
Speaker 1: but they tell everybody that because the majority of us,
Speaker 1: we go back. If it's just a violation, you going back.
Speaker 1: So we'll check this out. Man, How would you feel,
Speaker 1: man Um, You're a guy that comes from a background,
Speaker 1: You're getting your life together, right, You have an establishment,
Speaker 1: and you find out that your employee stealing from you.
Speaker 1: You get into an auditation with him and didn't want
Speaker 1: to put you in jail. How would you feel about that?
Speaker 1: If I didn't, I didn't get it. If then if
Speaker 1: he's standing from me, yeah, he's stealing from you. So
Speaker 1: you got an employee, you you work hard, you're busting
Speaker 1: your ass, you get this establishment together, you got a story, right,
Speaker 1: and you find out your employee stealing from you. Actually,
Speaker 1: I got one of my homeboys here tonight right for
Speaker 1: my partners, and he was telling me about this story. Okay,
Speaker 1: some of y'all know me and some of y'all don't.
Speaker 1: My name is t Y. I'm also known as l
Speaker 1: A Number one huspital Um. I have a company called
Speaker 1: fat Head, and I started out in l a in
Speaker 1: the streets, grinding, hustling with actually would have developed eighty
Speaker 1: pat and take it all the way to fifty birds,
Speaker 1: but lead at and I wouldn't legit. Never had no
Speaker 1: problems with the police. As far as I'm catching the case,
Speaker 1: I never did that, and I want legit started a
Speaker 1: business call fat Head opened up a store on mail rolls,
Speaker 1: FAD's clothing, um Art, posters for your wall, all kind
Speaker 1: of different little things that I had created. Make a
Speaker 1: long story short. I had a twenty square foot warehouse
Speaker 1: out of North Hollywood, and I got a call one
Speaker 1: day from my girl while I was at my store,
Speaker 1: telling me my employees were still in at my factory.
Speaker 1: And because I had the store, I just recently opened it,
Speaker 1: I had took some of my employers from my factory
Speaker 1: out to the store work, so everybody knew each other
Speaker 1: from the factory to the store. So we um. When
Speaker 1: I got that call. My guys that was at the
Speaker 1: store was like, man, should we want to go back
Speaker 1: to the to be rich? You? I really want to
Speaker 1: just go HND to myself. I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: hand myself, but they insisted, so we went back. The
Speaker 1: plan was for me to take the big guy and
Speaker 1: search him in the back end. My other two guys
Speaker 1: take the other guy and search him anyway. Um, they
Speaker 1: both aske it on and they got their ass. What
Speaker 1: as a businessman I want to ask as a brother
Speaker 1: growing up in the street, knowing every obstacle I hadn't
Speaker 1: made it through. I slipped. I didn't handle it like
Speaker 1: a businessman. So really, like in the eyes of the law,
Speaker 1: just to go back, in the eyes of the law,
Speaker 1: you should have called the authorities. But that goes against
Speaker 1: every principle that we are talking growing up. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't call the police home, right? Was these your
Speaker 1: partners are just some people you hired. These were some
Speaker 1: guys that have worked for me for three years. The
Speaker 1: ladies that came and told my girl they worked for
Speaker 1: me for five years, and some spanion cats and the
Speaker 1: Spanish ladies came and told, hey, they're still in the
Speaker 1: back building. What she called me? So when we went back,
Speaker 1: like I said, um, out of handle like a businessman.
Speaker 1: And it's all kind of ways of handle it. You know,
Speaker 1: I used to thank kind of stupid to be honest
Speaker 1: with you. Always thought I was thinking smart. I always
Speaker 1: used to think um, I wouldn't have my buddies, my
Speaker 1: guys that worked for me, that's willing to do anything
Speaker 1: in the world for me. I wouldn't have him do
Speaker 1: nothing that I wouldn't do. That was the wrong mentality
Speaker 1: to period, because the boss is supposed to keep it going.
Speaker 1: That's what your fellows was there for. So my mentality
Speaker 1: wasn't right. You know what I'm saying. I'm thinking, like ship,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do nothing. I didn't have to do nothing,
Speaker 1: and I had millions, millions I left millions. I left
Speaker 1: from flying on private playing all that, you know, to
Speaker 1: stay prison because of one slip. That was hard to
Speaker 1: be like the Twilight Zone, man, But you just thinking.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this now, what happened to the
Speaker 1: employees of the guys that were stealing? Did they ever
Speaker 1: getting anything? So there as she caught the police on you,
Speaker 1: they couldn't help it because the ass weapon, they needed
Speaker 1: to go to the hospital. So at the hospital, the
Speaker 1: doctor's automatically called the police, but they participated. Police got involved.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you this too, so it's a trip.
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it like this. So one day
Speaker 1: I was talking about one of my guys that had
Speaker 1: cost some time too. Man, the guys were illegal. I
Speaker 1: don't have nothing against nobody. Spanish, gaze whatever you is,
Speaker 1: that's what you is. Period. These guys were illegal. I
Speaker 1: hired them, they was working for me. But there's Spanish
Speaker 1: and illegal and it's amazing how they're here. They're illegal
Speaker 1: and you can still get punished for something with them
Speaker 1: even being here illegal and that that that's that's crazy
Speaker 1: as here they already I mean, they already here illegal
Speaker 1: because said of me, if they wouldn't have been here,
Speaker 1: they're not supposed to be anyway. If they were when
Speaker 1: they were supposed to be, they wouldn't be here to
Speaker 1: get to ask. But that don't that actually, it don't matter.
Speaker 1: It don't matter. What the police are saying. Is a crime, right,
Speaker 1: you got to three kts in the hospital, right, that's
Speaker 1: an assault. Right. And even though I was just saying it,
Speaker 1: even though those them them are legal, people could have
Speaker 1: sued him, Yeah, could have could have had a lawsuit.
Speaker 1: They were still tried to They tried to assume me
Speaker 1: for five hundred thousand. I was each as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, when he was in court when I was
Speaker 1: going through my trap because I went through a trap. Um,
Speaker 1: they have served us some papers, but my lawyer was
Speaker 1: smart enough to say, don't take it, don't accept it.
Speaker 1: They came to serve some paperwork and I've never accepted
Speaker 1: it and they never falled through with it. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean, you know, that's that's what
Speaker 1: I tell normal all the time. This ship is designed
Speaker 1: to keep us down, to bring us down, And at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, in the heat of the moment,
Speaker 1: you really don't have a choice because motherfucker's taken out
Speaker 1: of your table. And and this the mentality we had
Speaker 1: to have a choice. Yeah, you had a choice. And
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I could have handled it
Speaker 1: if I wanted to steal, keeping gangster, if I wanted
Speaker 1: to steal put hands on. I could have had a
Speaker 1: little different. I could have let him walk down the
Speaker 1: street and turn the corner right and act like I
Speaker 1: don't know who did it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying it's all kind of ways
Speaker 1: to do something. I mean, which, like I said, I
Speaker 1: would have handled it different today. I would have it different.
Speaker 1: I give him a bag to put the ship in
Speaker 1: and get home, right, now you learn from from from
Speaker 1: your states. But I mean at that time, you know,
Speaker 1: especially being on the grind and then going to jig,
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta feel a certain kind of way. Man.
Speaker 1: You gotta feel viole lady, that these motherfucker's would even
Speaker 1: do that. I gave you a job and this is
Speaker 1: what the things that if you get there on anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think my reaction would have been the
Speaker 1: same way. I think about the consequences later. But in
Speaker 1: today's society, you have to think about the counts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's where we come from. That's where we
Speaker 1: get it from. But to be honest with you, we
Speaker 1: gotta grow. We we can't result to violence with everything.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I really do believe that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you regret what you did? Man?
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I'm the type of person
Speaker 1: I don't never look at something as I regret it
Speaker 1: because I lived it, so I don't have I don't
Speaker 1: even have no room to try to regret it. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. All I do is just move
Speaker 1: on and ship and keep it going. It was the
Speaker 1: most hurting situation why I was in there. Man, I've
Speaker 1: never experienced like they test my mental tests everything, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I don't never sit back
Speaker 1: like damn. If I didn't do that, I would have
Speaker 1: had this or I did that. I don't get down
Speaker 1: like that. I just keep on going just out of curiosity. Man.
Speaker 1: How much was how much did they steal? Yeah? Probably
Speaker 1: about eight thousand dollars worth of ship each, maybe one
Speaker 1: six dollars one eight thousand. My my stuff was expensive purchase.
Speaker 1: I was. I was a customer. From the thing is,
Speaker 1: you have to quantify that six eight thousand they had
Speaker 1: the four thousand because that was just the first time
Speaker 1: they got cut. That that was the first time they
Speaker 1: got cut, so they ain't tell them using they usually
Speaker 1: been doing the you know what I mean, they just
Speaker 1: got coming and believe me, at that point in time,
Speaker 1: my thought was when they got caught with that much stuff,
Speaker 1: after they got their ass worked, after it was in
Speaker 1: the hospital, because the police can't come and get me
Speaker 1: for eleven days later. But my thought was to rump
Speaker 1: in their house because if they got caught with eight
Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth to my ship each one of them,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking their house got to be loaded, They got
Speaker 1: to have a room, all kind of ship with all
Speaker 1: kind of ship in there. Man. Now why you think
Speaker 1: the police waited eleven days should come get you, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. They showed a weighted though
Speaker 1: they did some slick ships. Neven days, eleven days, run
Speaker 1: your name, they got your background. Now, okay, when we
Speaker 1: couldn't catch before that far, Yeah, because you was We
Speaker 1: got it down that part because I'm pretty sure even
Speaker 1: though you had no interactions with the police before, but
Speaker 1: they had probably had an idea from your previous lifestyle
Speaker 1: before you want the ship, They maybe had an idea
Speaker 1: of what she was into. Man, I have had a
Speaker 1: thousand interactions with the police before that. I mean just
Speaker 1: growing up, you know hood do you have them? But
Speaker 1: I had When I said earlier, I've never had a okase.
Speaker 1: So I never was was arrested the dope. But I've
Speaker 1: had interactions. I've been arrested for this, I've been arrested
Speaker 1: for that, but I had never had a case where
Speaker 1: I had to go all the way through the court system.
Speaker 1: I've always never took a deal and my ship usually
Speaker 1: get dismissed and drops. This was a little bit different
Speaker 1: than's just one of those times where okay, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been trying to get him over, he got a will,
Speaker 1: he got probably not getting straight up, and then they
Speaker 1: had to come and get you. Okay, we got it now,
Speaker 1: so let's charge you. Because nine times out of ten,
Speaker 1: if it was them and they went to jail, the
Speaker 1: only thing happens is deportant, then you get nothing back.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna deport them. Man, let me tell you this.
Speaker 1: So when they did, when I did get convicted, I'm
Speaker 1: in the cell, I'm in sales with people that got
Speaker 1: five hundred years literally going to court coming back with
Speaker 1: a sense of five hundred years, hundred twenty five years.
Speaker 1: That's when you just sit back and be like, I
Speaker 1: ain't even to say, well my time, they ain't got
Speaker 1: the lose, not the lose, lose. But it's just crazy
Speaker 1: how when we when we talk about this and talk
Speaker 1: about how we used to be and and and there's
Speaker 1: no way out of how you used to be, you're
Speaker 1: always gonna pay for your your past that's uncut. You're
Speaker 1: always gonna pay for I'm kind of way. I didn't
Speaker 1: have cases where you get caught with a gun. They
Speaker 1: go in the bush and get that gun. They can't
Speaker 1: penning on now one of you four, but they put
Speaker 1: it on your record anyway. Wow, they put it on
Speaker 1: there and say, oh a gun, but no convintion this
Speaker 1: is that. That's because they couldn't pend it on nobody
Speaker 1: and the d ain't on frotheruct. But they give that
Speaker 1: to you anybody. So we already we're already in a
Speaker 1: situation where damn if we do that, we don't now
Speaker 1: whether you whether you're in your case, would have just
Speaker 1: said fucking it went the right way, You've still been wrong,
Speaker 1: you still lost. And then on the way they're looking
Speaker 1: at it, Okay, we gotta you gotta wait. With so
Speaker 1: much ship in the past, we can get him now.
Speaker 1: And the way in the world that should have been
Speaker 1: a conviction or is stilling from you. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, they try to find out a
Speaker 1: way to say I was wrong. I protected my ship
Speaker 1: when you know what it lives. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you nothing to cut you off. But I know the
Speaker 1: angs she was feeling anger when you last start on him,
Speaker 1: because I was a hustler too, not the magnitude that
Speaker 1: she was. But that was just my thing. I diddl
Speaker 1: than that was. You know. So you figure, man, when
Speaker 1: you were in that game man and who used to
Speaker 1: taking penitentiary chances, did you start working your money a
Speaker 1: little different? You're a little bit more frugal with your
Speaker 1: spending because you know what you gotta do. You know
Speaker 1: the risk that you take you to get your things
Speaker 1: going right. You know the risk that you're taking right.
Speaker 1: So that probably has you're feeling some kind of way. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, not to just switch the subject and go
Speaker 1: all the way back. Man, you said you worked yourself
Speaker 1: all the way in from a double up man on
Speaker 1: the fifty things admitted believe that hustle birthday, first day
Speaker 1: off that fifty I went to I think I went
Speaker 1: to an ounce breaking. Now the fifties, Cavy Kebby going,
Speaker 1: this had to be like the eighties, Yes, sir, the eighties,
Speaker 1: Man was a beautiful era. Now that it's morrified, that man,
Speaker 1: but but that's what it was. Good. But just the
Speaker 1: finding back up. What you're saying is you got a
Speaker 1: brother that that that went and took took a ship
Speaker 1: to be legit exactly. Well, that's what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: you know, just a sheer thought that something about angry
Speaker 1: I would feel when you're in the D game. Man,
Speaker 1: it's not clamorous. You're working your way up. You're really
Speaker 1: on the crime. You're really taking answers. And now you
Speaker 1: legit you wroken your stuff. And this dude, this PNG
Speaker 1: got the nervous thing that they go steal from you
Speaker 1: without the repercussions, right, So he was upsetting you. You
Speaker 1: put them in the hospital there. Yeah, yeah, staples, they
Speaker 1: needed staples. I'm not proud of that, but that's what
Speaker 1: that's what it was. As I grew up, my foker's
Speaker 1: gonna feel some pain, and that's what they did. I'm
Speaker 1: lucky that they didn't die. Well, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: UM doing my trial at lunch time, I belt we
Speaker 1: all bailed out. It is me doing my guys got arrested.
Speaker 1: My girl she got arrested just for calling. But UM
Speaker 1: doing my doing my UM doing my trial, and I
Speaker 1: kind of lost my phone. Sorry, it's so good, be
Speaker 1: it mere. Yeah, I kind of lost my damn. It
Speaker 1: was something I'm getting ready to say. What were we
Speaker 1: talking about, guys? We were talking about using the D
Speaker 1: game and you came back that it just gets you up.
Speaker 1: Somebody got from me to just steal from you and
Speaker 1: take from me. Yeah yeah, but most definitely that. Um.
Speaker 1: But the bigger you get, you gotta control that period.
Speaker 1: You gotta control that. I mean, if you're trying to
Speaker 1: be successful and stick around, you gotta control that. Not
Speaker 1: just that, but I just nevered something else and what
Speaker 1: I thought about someon when I was in the pan,
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, a lot of us probably could relate this.
Speaker 1: When I was job, my mother worked at a at
Speaker 1: a company and she would bring home faders, rubber bands, pens,
Speaker 1: paper clips, paper she was stealing. That's steal from your job.
Speaker 1: I don't get how you slide super dices, that's still it.
Speaker 1: And so I put myself and them do shoes. While
Speaker 1: I was in the pin, we learned that kind of
Speaker 1: tip when we got a homeboy our home girl at
Speaker 1: work at McDonald's. Mother go through, drive through it or
Speaker 1: walk if you're getting free ship, that's stealing used slice
Speaker 1: of the dice. No, because we do anything like that.
Speaker 1: But but me putting myself in somebody else's shoes and nations,
Speaker 1: I imagine, like, damn, what if my mother came home
Speaker 1: funked up black eye. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: got called out a job stilling some paper cliffs and
Speaker 1: some pins and something. Ship the brain home liquid paper
Speaker 1: and she get a black eye from man, I'm sucking
Speaker 1: them up. So that's where you regret you got you
Speaker 1: have your regret that where I shouldn't have did that.
Speaker 1: I should have handled that a different that still don't regret.
Speaker 1: I don't regret. I really can't regret it. You know.
Speaker 1: It's how it was a certain That's how I grew up, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's that's what I'm used
Speaker 1: to in a lot of times when man, a lot
Speaker 1: of times when we're being different games, are we doing
Speaker 1: different things. We think it's protocol to do different ships
Speaker 1: different ways. If you're adult, Debta, you think when you
Speaker 1: get home and you got a girl sheep post to
Speaker 1: have dinner cook for you, you're supposed to be this way.
Speaker 1: If you're a pen and she posts that, do that,
Speaker 1: she's supposed to be automatic. Do this. No matter what
Speaker 1: game you're in. As a polo, call that. People think
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be fauld that's crazy. Yeah, man, we
Speaker 1: all man, you know what the system is not a
Speaker 1: fair man. But a lot of times, man, we're not
Speaker 1: fair to ourselves man, because we have these old like
Speaker 1: we have these really fucked up mantras um that we
Speaker 1: live by, you know, these codes that we live by.
Speaker 1: And sometimes these codes just set us back, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because the thing is, you think about it.
Speaker 1: I see why you were angry. I see how to
Speaker 1: boot they ask too, because I worked hard for everything.
Speaker 1: I get something, so somebody to think that they just
Speaker 1: go steal it from you. And you look, they ask.
Speaker 1: You want to think, jail man. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's probably not worth it. Man, But that's
Speaker 1: just what we condition when you got to you gotta
Speaker 1: look at your come up and and on one hundred
Speaker 1: I said this to my brother. Look at all the
Speaker 1: bad ship and the wrong ship we did growing up
Speaker 1: trying to be gang bangers. The the time and effort
Speaker 1: you put in being a game banger, and you get
Speaker 1: away with a lot of ship, but that one time
Speaker 1: you get caught, it's gonna cost your ass as if
Speaker 1: you pay for everything you did. So if you if
Speaker 1: we if we look at it like that, okay, I
Speaker 1: can accept it thinking like that, but it still don't
Speaker 1: change the real concept to it. Mother's still from me.
Speaker 1: I under stole from a gang of mother buckers. I
Speaker 1: unda stole from out of gang of ship. But when
Speaker 1: it happened to you, you ain't thinking like that, Because
Speaker 1: if you're thinking like that, you can just easily let
Speaker 1: that go. Get rid of them, because I got more
Speaker 1: to lose what you found out. You have way more
Speaker 1: to lose than these three motherfucker's sitting there with stables
Speaker 1: in this ship. Exactly because I've still been chopping my game.
Speaker 1: I've still been doing what what what what I my
Speaker 1: ship is designed to do. Let me say that money,
Speaker 1: let me say this, I think a little bit different. Um,
Speaker 1: I really think, honestly, it might have been meant to be.
Speaker 1: I'm really kind of It was painful, but I really
Speaker 1: think it was a possibility that something worse would happen
Speaker 1: to me. To be honest with you, where how I
Speaker 1: was getting down and the way I was moving, my
Speaker 1: temper was becoming more and more shorter, I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't mind you fuck me. I'm sucking you off. Period.
Speaker 1: It didn't even matter because and I still feel that
Speaker 1: way to a certain extent, because I don't follow nobody.
Speaker 1: So because I don't funk with nobody, you funk with me.
Speaker 1: I always felt I had to show you twenty times
Speaker 1: more than what you did to me. Yeah, I believe
Speaker 1: it too. I think it is. I think peaceful spears
Speaker 1: is what I call him, like to exert the red
Speaker 1: a little bit more because I'm like that too. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bother nobody. I'm a very cool dude. I get
Speaker 1: your shirt off my background. But once you cross that
Speaker 1: line with me, if it takes about to give me
Speaker 1: there but one something there a home, it ain't no
Speaker 1: point of return. You came, you came back up from it.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing, fellas. Let me let me tell
Speaker 1: you something that's looking to listen. Being in the prison,
Speaker 1: you will if you want to come home, you're gonna
Speaker 1: act right. Yeah, you're gonna act right for real. And
Speaker 1: let me tell you what they're doing in the prisons now.
Speaker 1: They're not even separating the snitches. They're looking at it like,
Speaker 1: if you want to go home, you're gonna live with
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, because if you don't, they got a spot
Speaker 1: for you and they're gonna keep you. So they're mixing
Speaker 1: everybody have smise and all that. Ship. That's and why
Speaker 1: it's sensitive needs jars. That's where my fucker's being told.
Speaker 1: That's where my fucker's in um tapped out from the
Speaker 1: main line. They didn't want to be around the bullshit,
Speaker 1: and so they tap out. But it it became the
Speaker 1: prison system. It's more motherfucker's that are tapped out that
Speaker 1: you're told. Then the motherfucker's that ain't said ship. So
Speaker 1: now they ain't got no choice because say, if the
Speaker 1: prison got nine yards, eight of the yards, it's s
Speaker 1: and y now. And and that's only because they don't
Speaker 1: want to the budget that they have to pay to
Speaker 1: protect you, the money that they had to spending protecting
Speaker 1: you and all that. They said, fun that right. Everybody
Speaker 1: is in this penitentiary, in this building for a reason,
Speaker 1: so why waste that money on doing this. They have
Speaker 1: designed the prison and the county jail so cold. The
Speaker 1: choices you had, you don't have no more. Now you're
Speaker 1: gonna be laying that's to a child molester. You know here,
Speaker 1: child molester, you're selling. They're letting you do that. But
Speaker 1: if you want here, if you want to go home,
Speaker 1: either either need that motherfucker alone or get stuck in
Speaker 1: this big you and his motherfucker family that bar and
Speaker 1: they got a place for a motherfucker with her life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and we talked about that about the prison
Speaker 1: system before. Man, it's a um, it's a massive money
Speaker 1: grad man. You know the thing he is right now? Man,
Speaker 1: the prison is probably the most safest investment now now
Speaker 1: in terms, and you're getting the return of your dollar. Man,
Speaker 1: you think about it. How much of those cars cost
Speaker 1: to go home? You can put fifty dollars and that
Speaker 1: ship like this, Now, let me tell you the county jail.
Speaker 1: The county jail used to smoke down. Uh Sherman block
Speaker 1: daughter did? Uh? Yeah? Running what you talking? Ship the canteen?
Speaker 1: How much more money they making? They're making millions. Hold
Speaker 1: on who runs the who runs the Sherman blocks daughter? Wow,
Speaker 1: that's like a confident entrance. I had a cold thing
Speaker 1: about the prison system. Di's some cold ship right here.
Speaker 1: They give you eight hour jobs in prison and you
Speaker 1: get a check, you get paid hourly. Guess what your
Speaker 1: hourly rate is? Eight cents an hour? Eight cents an hour.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I'm gonna do it. They're slaving you as
Speaker 1: as slavery. Literally sixty four cents a day for eight
Speaker 1: hours and work, and they take tax out that ship.
Speaker 1: You're getting pimped. I'm gonna tell y'all something else, just
Speaker 1: to catch you don't know about the prison system. A
Speaker 1: lot of y'all don't. I didn't know until being in here.
Speaker 1: Do you know if a war breakout, they killed everybody
Speaker 1: in prison one if a war breakout, and it got
Speaker 1: excuse me, if a war breakout, they kill everybody in
Speaker 1: prison because they figure if they don't, you might help
Speaker 1: the enemy. That's crazy. Did you know that? I did
Speaker 1: not know that prison so let me they just locked
Speaker 1: you down. No, that they do when they come to jail.
Speaker 1: They had an earth quaker than motherfucker, and we got
Speaker 1: stuck in the day room. And you see, they don't
Speaker 1: they all outside. They got They lock you in there.
Speaker 1: If this motherfucker fall running, they're gonna die in there.
Speaker 1: They don't take you nowhere. They don't. They lock your
Speaker 1: ass in your cell. And that's it. They don't gonna
Speaker 1: go temple down. They not. We even give you a
Speaker 1: chance to getting We don't have a chance. They all
Speaker 1: out of there, but you're stuck in the cell. So
Speaker 1: it's pretty much man. You know what I thought about man,
Speaker 1: I think about the prison system, man, because I've been
Speaker 1: the studying this stuff, just based off the dive war
Speaker 1: we've been having on these previous episode, and I've never
Speaker 1: been in the prison system before. Unfortunately I've never been
Speaker 1: in the prison system before. But me looking at this
Speaker 1: stuff from starting, they just realize how wrong everything knows
Speaker 1: and how just you pretty much animal when you were
Speaker 1: in there, heard to break this, hurt the left heart
Speaker 1: that didn't hurt to the doctor, heard animal slavery. Because
Speaker 1: I don't I just don't see the possibility of being
Speaker 1: rehabilitated in this situation like that, because you figured most
Speaker 1: of the people of day in Carson Bread, they wind
Speaker 1: up in cars brating. Like you know, we were talking
Speaker 1: about just the whole premise of just robation on how
Speaker 1: the old bunch of people out of probation because it's
Speaker 1: a treat bag. You canna wind up getting more time
Speaker 1: because you can't pay the fund. So I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it like this, It's like the system is designed just
Speaker 1: to keep you in there. It's almost like they dangled
Speaker 1: approbation in your face, but make it so difficult oh
Speaker 1: he is staying there. You're not gonna do that because
Speaker 1: it's the thing. Man, I think they want to keep
Speaker 1: us all locked up. James, Well, and damn, you're trying
Speaker 1: to get a tag on everybody. And what I said
Speaker 1: about tag, we talked about the little cards j C
Speaker 1: cards with which the sharers have and they make I
Speaker 1: don't give a game banging or not. You can have
Speaker 1: your school books in your hands, and they want to
Speaker 1: fill that card out, so they labeled you as a
Speaker 1: game member. They're doing females like that too. If you
Speaker 1: gotta tattoo, you gotta. They gotta do this card. Back
Speaker 1: in my days in the eighties, they was taking the
Speaker 1: picture about the Trump take your picture, the names, the
Speaker 1: whole nine. You know what I'm saying. So there's nowhere
Speaker 1: they just have to identify who you are. Now going
Speaker 1: going to the county jail, just going to the substation,
Speaker 1: you're gonna wind up in the county jail. From the
Speaker 1: county jail, nine times out of ten, you're gonna wind
Speaker 1: up in prison. Getting going to prison and being in
Speaker 1: the county jail, and even being in the substation. It's
Speaker 1: not designed to make you for the relaxation. You can't
Speaker 1: relaxing there you hear keys Janglin and those clothes. They
Speaker 1: then they give you the fuck up food. They want
Speaker 1: you to eat this ship. They treat you and make
Speaker 1: you get along the walls. They push you, they can hit,
Speaker 1: they can mohoop your ass, they can do whatever they
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Justin with with with with kennels in
Speaker 1: his backyard and let him out to play and didn't
Speaker 1: put them back in the motherfucker. That's pretty much what
Speaker 1: you are. Someone fucker's. I say the treatment they get,
Speaker 1: some other fucker's I ain't gonna even I can't even
Speaker 1: say they're deserved, because I'd be a hypocrite because the
Speaker 1: same system. You are in the same system, I mean,
Speaker 1: and even the worstest criminals get treated. I get treated
Speaker 1: the same way. You know what I'm saying, what you're
Speaker 1: saying they do. Got some fun up people, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: do the muscle what. Some motherfucker's deserve what they get.
Speaker 1: But we we we we were in the same fucking facility.
Speaker 1: We're doing the same motherfucker time. And you know, some
Speaker 1: someone fuckers, I can't really deal with it like that.
Speaker 1: Someone fuckers ain't built for it. Well here you think
Speaker 1: about it, just the different laws, and that's what I
Speaker 1: was saying, Like out here, for weeds, you get have
Speaker 1: slept on the risk. Right in Texas you get washed.
Speaker 1: I had a homeboy that I played ball within college.
Speaker 1: He was a school teacher. He got caught with two
Speaker 1: hons of weed for his own personal consumption. But he
Speaker 1: just bought it like that. They gave him. Damn me,
Speaker 1: like a keen pan status. Well he wouldn't doing some
Speaker 1: serious years behind Tea is different Texas Texas loan in California, large,
Speaker 1: totally different. Here. You're getting slapped on the bench on
Speaker 1: the way to Texas and say, don't mess with Texas. Texas.
Speaker 1: Texas ain't playing Los Angeles used to be working in
Speaker 1: Texas and Jackie Las Vegas. You're gonna get a motherfucking
Speaker 1: little seed. You're doing two three years. You're going to jail.
Speaker 1: When I when I moved to texens in in in
Speaker 1: ninety nine, they weren't bullshit. But going back and forth,
Speaker 1: I remember going out there and having the ship wasn't
Speaker 1: even there. It was just straight dirt fields. But you
Speaker 1: get caught, that's say you're going to strip you can
Speaker 1: drink on the strip all day, but go towards Charleston
Speaker 1: and and walk up there and tripping drinking. They gonna
Speaker 1: lock your grass. Shot. You're going to jail if you
Speaker 1: don't have enough bad idea. You're doing thirty days. Oh, man, shy,
Speaker 1: but jail is not designed for you to go in
Speaker 1: there and kick back. He didn't see, you know, going
Speaker 1: back to my partner and I see all at the
Speaker 1: same You put people in situations. Now, Luckily my homeboy
Speaker 1: wasn't nowhere near no mark. You know, he had his business,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but he was in the
Speaker 1: life of their situation when I got to get the
Speaker 1: talk to him. He had worked this way. What's the dude,
Speaker 1: that's a trusting Yeah, he works as a trusty. So
Speaker 1: he used to call me a certain time, like during
Speaker 1: the week, you know, for the phone that we had talked. Man,
Speaker 1: he would tell me and you would just tell this
Speaker 1: dude a dude. There wasn't no coward, but you could
Speaker 1: tell he has some concerns. He was like, He's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to you know, just to maintain man, because
Speaker 1: you're not a program norm. You're don't have a problem
Speaker 1: sitting in the jail. Some cats, I've seen him break
Speaker 1: down just when it's time, when it's coming from court.
Speaker 1: Some cats can't take that because you don't get no
Speaker 1: peace and quiet. You don't get a state of mind.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't get that. Some cats came lay
Speaker 1: down in program like that. I don't see solid motherfucker's
Speaker 1: fall apart. They're worried about their motherfucking girl sucking another motherfucker.
Speaker 1: They worried about they they the material ship they left
Speaker 1: out there. They worried. You've got so much on your mind,
Speaker 1: and then going back and forth to court. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let me say this, well, I learned
Speaker 1: in President Man. There's something that I lived with me
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. I never analyies it
Speaker 1: the way I was upfront with in President. Mental health
Speaker 1: is big. It's bigger than we even can imagine. Period.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people would know nothing about the
Speaker 1: strust of going to prison if you've never been there.
Speaker 1: But you made me just think about it's so many
Speaker 1: people that come to prison that can't take it. I've
Speaker 1: seen so many dudes coming there so called normal, and
Speaker 1: twenty days later, the motherfucker's is looking up in the
Speaker 1: air like this, like zombies. They put them on the one.
Speaker 1: One thing about prison, all you gotta do is tell them,
Speaker 1: my fucker's you can't sleep, and they got something for you.
Speaker 1: They got something they're gonna get they they're gonna give
Speaker 1: you something to help you sleep. They're drugging that as up.
Speaker 1: Are they giving the prison drug medication in there? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the biggest money. That's man. That's where the
Speaker 1: most money on medication come from the prison, like he
Speaker 1: was saying earlier, And that's the biggest thing you can
Speaker 1: invest in is prisons medication and prison mental health. That's
Speaker 1: where all the money is, man, That's where so much
Speaker 1: money is made the system. You can see. My thing is, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I see a lot of guys that have
Speaker 1: really further problems, Like you know, my thing is this.
Speaker 1: You see a crack head going down the street, he
Speaker 1: breaking the people's cards and still change or whatever like that.
Speaker 1: Rather than to me the optimal situations, get this dude
Speaker 1: treatment so he can get better. When you put him
Speaker 1: in prison. I believe he still will get high. He's
Speaker 1: still gonna find a way to get high, and he
Speaker 1: goes generally you. You created the same six wation. So
Speaker 1: this dude get out a couple of years later, six
Speaker 1: months later, whatever, he's back out the street doing the
Speaker 1: same thing. You haven't fixed nothing. To me, real abilitation
Speaker 1: should be okay, now you go out and shoot somebody
Speaker 1: in here or do something like that. You want to
Speaker 1: go do some time. Ain't got realabilitating from that. But
Speaker 1: if you're a drug addict, man, if you have some
Speaker 1: kind of mental disorder, find out what that mental disorder is,
Speaker 1: why this dude is tripping, and fix him so he
Speaker 1: can go back become a normal part of society. And
Speaker 1: we really need to fix this man. Where the brothers
Speaker 1: got to jail and they're still doing time because they
Speaker 1: can't get a job. It ain't that easy. I had
Speaker 1: a homeboy, man, and I'm not gonna put his name
Speaker 1: because he actually watched the show because he you know,
Speaker 1: he got my job and stuff. You know, so I
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Speaker 1: you this dude is qualified. This dude actually played ball
Speaker 1: in college and everything else, right, but you know, got
Speaker 1: caught up in some stuff. Is used to get caught
Speaker 1: up there this time came back out. He winds up
Speaker 1: working at market you know, Walmart is a cashier, stock
Speaker 1: person doing all this and that. This dude got a degree.
Speaker 1: First of all, he worked his way up. He's smarter
Speaker 1: than the people he works for. Sleep works. He works
Speaker 1: his way up, right, He works his way up. And
Speaker 1: the dude actually he was gonna get a district manager
Speaker 1: position because they had moved into like a store manager position,
Speaker 1: and they finally decided somebody and he said, he thinks
Speaker 1: somebody was hating him because they ran his background check
Speaker 1: and they really didn't. They decided to run his background
Speaker 1: check and he didn't get the thing. He thinking it
Speaker 1: was the manager because he wounded us to past and
Speaker 1: the first person he was working for you know here
Speaker 1: here like two and a half years. So he's thinking
Speaker 1: that somebody may be called you know him. But how
Speaker 1: is that fair because technically he's done his time already.
Speaker 1: Why should he still keeping he didn't. My thing is this,
Speaker 1: I can understand if you want to go work at
Speaker 1: a retail establishment if you was in jail, still in
Speaker 1: large sums of cash, then okay, you may put some
Speaker 1: on this thing. He came working on retail because this
Speaker 1: you know, his motherfucker thief, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He was still this dude was in that motherfucker's he
Speaker 1: got cost selling drugs. You know what I'm saying. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: It really doesn't matter to them because once you get
Speaker 1: back that penitentiary number, you still belong to them someway somehow,
Speaker 1: after you do your par role and give back that number.
Speaker 1: I gave my number back, I got out of eight,
Speaker 1: any nine, they had their number back. But it's still
Speaker 1: so much ship I can't do as a human being,
Speaker 1: as a man that I can't. It's a job, certain
Speaker 1: job I can't get, whether I'm qualified or underqualified for
Speaker 1: They're not gonna give it to you, So it keeps
Speaker 1: you right here at the bottom. They don't want you
Speaker 1: to come up per sect if that ain't happening. So yeah, everything,
Speaker 1: I think everything is designed to keep you at a minimum,
Speaker 1: at a minimum to you get to a point where
Speaker 1: it frustrates you. You're gonna do something out of the norm,
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna wind up back where they want you.
Speaker 1: You know what I said to that, be an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I work for yourself what I was about to say.
Speaker 1: But everybody in the game vil self high. That's one
Speaker 1: thing I learned from the game period. That's what I
Speaker 1: took from the game. When I was in the game
Speaker 1: selling dope, it was it comes to real life. It's
Speaker 1: the The whole thing is buying low, selling high. No
Speaker 1: matter what you do, you buy low. Everything costs. This
Speaker 1: microphone cost Somebody bought that low and sold it high.
Speaker 1: Somebody bought that chair and sold it high. It's everything
Speaker 1: everything and sold high. So all you gotta do is
Speaker 1: be in where it's in demand. But that was in
Speaker 1: the hood, what dope was in demand. It was hot.
Speaker 1: But it's so bad now if you didn't, if you
Speaker 1: didn't come up back then like you and mother got there.
Speaker 1: Still trying to day today, trying to sell that. You're
Speaker 1: too late. You ain't ben to get You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're gonna be. You're doing it to get by.
Speaker 1: You're doing it to get by. So everybody, all the
Speaker 1: homies are everybody that's in the hood. Don't possess the
Speaker 1: gift that you've got to buy low and sale high.
Speaker 1: We all don't have it, you know, we all don't.
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm putting out there. You can buy
Speaker 1: a thousand two boxes of two picks. You just gotta
Speaker 1: be where they want and where they need on period,
Speaker 1: no matter what it is. You just gotta be worsen
Speaker 1: the man all the ship. You see that sale it's
Speaker 1: it's it's out there for a reason because it's sale, right,
Speaker 1: So you just gotta pick what you want to mess with.
Speaker 1: We had options back then. We chose dope because it
Speaker 1: was the highest thing in the neighborhood. Some people chose
Speaker 1: sweaters and jackets and socks. But push around that ship.
Speaker 1: You could do whatever you wanna do. True, it all
Speaker 1: comes down to buying low, setting high. Another thing. Man,
Speaker 1: speaking of buying low, selling high. These neighborhood stores are
Speaker 1: sucking me up. When I go on these neighborhoods stores
Speaker 1: in the hood and see how they're charging us only
Speaker 1: for convenience. Man, it's it, he knows me, man, for real,
Speaker 1: these Asian stores. I went in the store not too
Speaker 1: long ago in my neighborhood. I grew up in the thirties,
Speaker 1: and and I go in the store. And every day
Speaker 1: I buy water, I buy bottles of water. It could
Speaker 1: be Beverly Hills, the valley, it don't matter wherever I am.
Speaker 1: And when I went in the neighborhood, I bought the
Speaker 1: same bottle of water, and it cost me more money
Speaker 1: at that store all the places I'd be at, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it, And I went off on the
Speaker 1: people in there, Man, I damnit to shut that story.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that that they're doing us like that,
Speaker 1: because because it's out of convene, if we could walk
Speaker 1: right to the corner store and get it real quick,
Speaker 1: we don't mind spending that extra. They're getting rich off that. Remember,
Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was there after
Speaker 1: the rides, I believe. Remember, we still have a bunch
Speaker 1: of black liquor stores over in l A. Like all
Speaker 1: the liquor stories, like you had James Liquor that was
Speaker 1: on the corner of Vermont for verminded century had James.
Speaker 1: Literally that was black own. You had a period liquor
Speaker 1: croach fore you was black owned. After the riots, a
Speaker 1: lot of the people sold out to the Asian people.
Speaker 1: And I'm letting if this ain't about Asian people and never.
Speaker 1: But we don't have no ownership in our communities. Right,
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you what I see to trist
Speaker 1: me out. I live in the suburbs. I see a guy. Um,
Speaker 1: I've seen this guy all the time that owns the
Speaker 1: liquor store on Long Beach and North Long Beach, right
Speaker 1: off the South Street. Right. I got family to live
Speaker 1: over there, right, So it trists me out. He goes
Speaker 1: actually to Alberson's and buys up all the cereals when
Speaker 1: ain't on sale. You know how you get to buy one,
Speaker 1: get one, you know, went long. I see him buying
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff, and I'm just checking them
Speaker 1: out because I don't see him in the store. I
Speaker 1: see him by the fighting the waters, the fighting on
Speaker 1: the waters of nine and nine cent. I went to
Speaker 1: that store one day and I did the same thing
Speaker 1: you did. I drink that fighting the water, right, And
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, this dude don't got from nine nine.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him making some money. He was
Speaker 1: charging to name nine for the bubble bubble. I've said, so,
Speaker 1: you know you, I could have bought four of them
Speaker 1: at that price. You're just being too greedy. But that's
Speaker 1: our fault because we support these motherfuckers and we let
Speaker 1: them talk to us crazy when we walk in the story,
Speaker 1: they're disrespectful. They they just as anybody in his rooms
Speaker 1: from the cameraman us. How many of y'all have y'all
Speaker 1: been arrest when y'all walking to a littering store? If
Speaker 1: somebody look at y'all like y'all crazy, like you come
Speaker 1: in and steal something being in the hood and didn't
Speaker 1: have it already, I'm sure, mabe. I don't really give
Speaker 1: a fuck. I don't even get it. I don't even
Speaker 1: pay attention to their ass. I don't even get them
Speaker 1: occupied on space and me. Man, but keep looking. But
Speaker 1: the thing he was though, Man, we really got a um.
Speaker 1: We really are falling behind as a people, and it's
Speaker 1: our fault. Yeah, it's our fault. Because you know, I
Speaker 1: got a son that played college ball. I'm telling him
Speaker 1: off the rip, you're not going to school to look
Speaker 1: or work with somebody. You can want to school and
Speaker 1: go learn being the team major journalism because what I'm
Speaker 1: playing else when I get an old as man digital soapbox,
Speaker 1: be able to company up to where Hey, you're gonna
Speaker 1: make the journalism you come and take it to the
Speaker 1: next level. That's what I'm hoping at it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like we don't have no ownership enough,
Speaker 1: and then when we do get ownership, man, it's like
Speaker 1: almost like we flip out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We don't pull nobody else in, and we don't have
Speaker 1: no kind of like like mentorship. Just don't trust each other.
Speaker 1: We don't trust each other going into business together. That's
Speaker 1: because somebody out of this this this group gonna think
Speaker 1: you're taking from me or you getting more than what
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm getting. And it shouldn't be like that. Business.
Speaker 1: Money speaks for itself, paper speak for itself. We don't
Speaker 1: look at it like that. We're so worried about the
Speaker 1: b ship and what other people are doing. Like I
Speaker 1: said before, how do Mesicans you can put five families
Speaker 1: in one home. You got a black chick over here
Speaker 1: in the five bed room wroom by yourselves. She don't
Speaker 1: want no motherfucking help that brother, you don't want no
Speaker 1: motherfucking hell and getting people and put them in there,
Speaker 1: save your money, good on my mortgage. But we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't do it. Like that. They probably do want
Speaker 1: to help, but it's the sheep you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: go through. True, because motherfucker's be in that five bear
Speaker 1: own house. She might be in that motherfucking and no,
Speaker 1: she needs to help, but she knows when she opened
Speaker 1: that can of wine it's gonna be some most ship too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, just like them, they gotta have rules and
Speaker 1: and if taking a chance is a motherfucker's then we
Speaker 1: gotta take some type of chance. We can't be scared
Speaker 1: to work at motherfucking McDonald's walmart. This, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We got so much motherfucking pride, it's just
Speaker 1: so little nothing. We don't give a funk about it
Speaker 1: or take value in the ship that we see other
Speaker 1: motherfucker's making money off book working again. You see them,
Speaker 1: the old ladies in them trash kids, getting them kids
Speaker 1: in the loving them. They made five or six other
Speaker 1: dollars a week. But the only motherfucker's you see in
Speaker 1: the trash kid is a smoker. But he checked all
Speaker 1: that motherfucking money make and blow it. This could be
Speaker 1: my comeback, This could get me off the motherfucker street.
Speaker 1: We're looking at it like that so we downplay ourself.
Speaker 1: It ain't fuss to look at it like that. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: that's doing that, to look at it like that, that's
Speaker 1: a living like that. Yeah, but we gotta how how
Speaker 1: do we get better? How do we get better? With self?
Speaker 1: It started with self. Yeah, you can't make nobody, You
Speaker 1: can't get nobody your blessing, and you can't do none
Speaker 1: of that. I can't do none of that. They got
Speaker 1: to start with their self. Yeah, So with self, I
Speaker 1: mean everybody else works as a group, right, Like what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we kind of like because yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: want to do it. I don't trust you us. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Let me say this real quick. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I swear to you. Was embarrassing being a black man
Speaker 1: in prison amongst black men. It was embarrassing to be
Speaker 1: a black man among so many black men. And I see,
Speaker 1: how come every race look at us like we ain't ship,
Speaker 1: look like look at us like we stupid him, we
Speaker 1: can't get along. I had a white dude asked me,
Speaker 1: that's long ago. We just have to be talking. I
Speaker 1: was telling them back in the day, in the eighties,
Speaker 1: I used to I'll be driving around, and I'll see
Speaker 1: a car, a hundred thousands out of car parked up
Speaker 1: in the yard that looked like a piece of ship.
Speaker 1: The house is falling apart, the porches fall apart, the
Speaker 1: paint is sucked up on the house. It just looked
Speaker 1: stupid to me. And I would pull over and smoke
Speaker 1: some weed and be like, that ain't gonna never be me.
Speaker 1: So I was having a conversation with this white dude
Speaker 1: that gave me two million dollars before, and he just
Speaker 1: said the other day, I'm telling him about how you
Speaker 1: surdrive around and just think that was fucking crazy. He said,
Speaker 1: t Y, it's a sixty five year old white man.
Speaker 1: He said, t Y, isn't that where the term nigger
Speaker 1: rich come from. I shouldn't say ship. I couldn't say
Speaker 1: ship because that's what it is. Did he did? He
Speaker 1: take T what, I just don't understand your race. I'm
Speaker 1: not a conversation with a white man. This one. I
Speaker 1: just don't understand. Your race is like crabs in the barrel.
Speaker 1: He called the lobster syndrome. Actually the soul, not something
Speaker 1: from every other race, a mom's r race. It was
Speaker 1: embarrassing as fuck. Being a black man in prison around
Speaker 1: so many black men, you tell them, my fuck NIGGI
Speaker 1: gona fuck this white dude up. He's gonna tell you
Speaker 1: you can do that. We're gonna suck you up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the dumbest black at ship I ever seen in
Speaker 1: my fucking life. Gonna tell y'all something to man, it
Speaker 1: was embarrassing. Uh. My wife Mexican, right when her father
Speaker 1: first came to this country. She said that people used
Speaker 1: to laugh her day as he had this little truck,
Speaker 1: right and he had a pile of palace on the
Speaker 1: back of the mouth, you know, laughing. She hate him
Speaker 1: come to up to school. That little pile of palace.
Speaker 1: Man turned from a little truck to one big long
Speaker 1: flat bed truck to a fleet of trucks delivering palace
Speaker 1: to everybody from Walmart to Target to everybody else. And
Speaker 1: I was looking at my father in law. Man he
Speaker 1: had built this big, massive business, right you know all
Speaker 1: my wife polarts just when college and everything else, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. This dude, I wouldn't ride with
Speaker 1: him one day. He told me to ride one more day.
Speaker 1: Was funny, he said, come on, you know I'm speaking
Speaker 1: on English men. Faught about Coogle's health. You don't speak
Speaker 1: a liking English. Come on, come on, I wrote with him,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at him. Man, he dealing with this
Speaker 1: white dude that don't liquor Spanish. And they over there talking.
Speaker 1: He's showing them this stuff. The next thing that they
Speaker 1: shake hands. My father in law going there and get
Speaker 1: um check. I lookally check the checks say twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars on. He bringed weak with him because he wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you know, talking layers in there about
Speaker 1: what the terms because of his things. So he went
Speaker 1: and got a contract. And I'm thinking, I said, now,
Speaker 1: this man don't speak no English, very limited, very limited English,
Speaker 1: like okay, yes, you know like that. And this dude
Speaker 1: don't built him some ship man. The people laughing at
Speaker 1: his daughter when he dropped off school, but was they
Speaker 1: laugh in high school when she had the five point
Speaker 1: Oh he don't build this, you know, he don't build
Speaker 1: this stuff up. Man, we are so pride for the
Speaker 1: where it's less. Man, I'm not going than cutting no grass,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm not doing this. It's almost
Speaker 1: like we get sitting up there waiting to be saved
Speaker 1: by somebody. Man, all black people know how to do.
Speaker 1: Us as black people, man, all we knew how to
Speaker 1: do was go to search free. And I don't be
Speaker 1: wrong with that, but we're waiting to get saves. Like
Speaker 1: what are we waiting for? Now? We're worried about what
Speaker 1: the most motherfucker gonna say. We're worried about that conversation.
Speaker 1: I can't go to work in McDonald's and be just
Speaker 1: window when my girls, my boys ride by, come through
Speaker 1: the drive to and see me in that motherfucker. That's
Speaker 1: the talk of the town now. So I ain't working
Speaker 1: in that motherfucker. Ain't nobody gonna see me cutting these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's grass. But we grew up cutting grass and helping
Speaker 1: the older news, you know, marching to the stove back
Speaker 1: and forth. You know exactly that basket doing ship like
Speaker 1: that round is just everything is totally different. We got
Speaker 1: worse it because my grandfather's taught us. My grandfather taught us,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do something, you gotta you gotta know something.
Speaker 1: You gotta learn something, whether it's plumbing, uh that drywall, CARPETI,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, you got to know something.
Speaker 1: And I know a little bit about everything that he did,
Speaker 1: because I've watched it. He taught me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It wasn't no problem. She was my grandfather,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if we got a
Speaker 1: plumbing problem, I know what to look for. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Putting up drywalls, I know where to started,
Speaker 1: and you know, hooking up drywall. So see that's dope.
Speaker 1: A lot of us don't know how to do none
Speaker 1: of that ship. Yeah, I'm guilty. I never want to line.
Speaker 1: I do none of that ship, but I always want
Speaker 1: to have money to have it done. I don't like
Speaker 1: doing no, I hate doing labor work, but I swear
Speaker 1: to God, that's one of my things since I was
Speaker 1: a kid. I want to be able to watch that
Speaker 1: ship get done. You already getting right there? Build that
Speaker 1: right there. I want that right there. That's my ship
Speaker 1: right there. I don't do nothing, but I buy all
Speaker 1: the tools, man. I got so many tools and ship. Man.
Speaker 1: I bought a house from my playbork even both, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't never let know when I when I took
Speaker 1: it over, I redid it. And I used to buy
Speaker 1: all my own tools. So nobody come on my property
Speaker 1: with no tools. So when they left, they came empty
Speaker 1: handed and left empty handed and ships. I still got
Speaker 1: tools and ship. But I love getting ship done. So
Speaker 1: that when you like that, your hustle where you got
Speaker 1: to stay on it ain't None moved my brothers in
Speaker 1: peace that he's a pigeon free, pet bull free. And
Speaker 1: so he was like, man, I need to learn how
Speaker 1: to build a bird cage. Looking at him, he just
Speaker 1: got this wood paneling all kind of Now, let you
Speaker 1: know how you do it. I don't remember how my
Speaker 1: grandfather did the structure of the floor, build the floor.
Speaker 1: They just no goddamn towed. It's water bunder this ship.
Speaker 1: So I had the four walls I cut cut out
Speaker 1: in the dirt with the concrete I missed concrete with
Speaker 1: the rocks and all that, laid the foundation at the
Speaker 1: whole ship, and then build his bird cage. That motherucking
Speaker 1: cage still up right now today. We just sold the house,
Speaker 1: that motherfucker never thinking. Man, I learned, and you take problem,
Speaker 1: and no one sh how to do that. And now
Speaker 1: that I can incorporate that in mind and say some
Speaker 1: money exactly when ship happened in the house. Right now today,
Speaker 1: I don't have to call this motherfucker. That motherfucker let
Speaker 1: me go to the home depot. But she's gonna get
Speaker 1: the ship and then I'll do it. That's money I got,
Speaker 1: give it to somebody else and then calling back an
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, it's not hard to learn
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff is what I did because
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up being the most in that dude
Speaker 1: that putting up walls like I'm not gonna go later
Speaker 1: on Florida. I'm gonna do that. But one thing I
Speaker 1: did have thene like I changed the fan in our house,
Speaker 1: steal a fan without in our room. I changed the
Speaker 1: man because they were all that stuff is on Half
Speaker 1: of the stuff was on YouTube right now to show you,
Speaker 1: you know, man, But that's two wives. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm doing myself because I told my wife. She was like,
Speaker 1: we don't call, said he don't know just what it was.
Speaker 1: I said, 't enough. But to one, I can figure
Speaker 1: this all, I said, one kid can figure out. But
Speaker 1: where where do we go from here? Fellas? But then
Speaker 1: you say that that that's some more ship I got
Speaker 1: from the Doge games. When you're in the Doge game,
Speaker 1: it's so easy to don't get a both man change
Speaker 1: their light up there and get that both a little
Speaker 1: piece of rock changing their light up there. But they're
Speaker 1: getting the tip dollars that ship making all that kind
Speaker 1: of it has just benefits. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that goes that leaders along through with you through life,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it used to have
Speaker 1: him off to do some ship bam bam whatever when
Speaker 1: you when you when you moved to say you move
Speaker 1: out of the state and half of the ship and
Speaker 1: cut down because it cost them getting ship dead as
Speaker 1: a motherfucker the day. And damn, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to put this ship together, but I gotta pays to
Speaker 1: do this ship. You see, it's the right thing YouTube
Speaker 1: learning how to build as your motherfucker, And it showed
Speaker 1: like to me is everything because I know how to
Speaker 1: do ship from motorshackle trying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know about the motorcycle till I got one, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But Christmas, all the toys
Speaker 1: and putting ship together, go buy a dresser and you
Speaker 1: know it comes with the aid. Yeah, I know to
Speaker 1: put it together because I could read that diagram. I'm
Speaker 1: just good at it, and I put it together like this.
Speaker 1: Why the brother little this like? And then what you've
Speaker 1: done with it like this? So man, it always it's good.
Speaker 1: My grandfather was always good. So me and my little
Speaker 1: brothers to to have cars and ship. We were putting
Speaker 1: inches in this sixty five shipping. This is the looking
Speaker 1: Forward team. But we're putting injines in this ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what do we do? Where do we go? For me?
Speaker 1: Because you know what, man, I'm gonna put this disclaimer.
Speaker 1: I love black people. I'm black, my mom is a black,
Speaker 1: my daddy black, my sister. I love black people. Man.
Speaker 1: What I hate niggas? Man, I can't stand up. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell me why we sit up? Man? And we
Speaker 1: talked about each other so bad, so worried about what
Speaker 1: this person got and if you really educated yourself with
Speaker 1: new weaves up against you were running cluing to your
Speaker 1: brother or your sister, is you gotta be educated? No,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be going to finish because I
Speaker 1: got I'm gonna I'm like this. I've been in the
Speaker 1: street all my motherfucking like didn't finish school because I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a game banger and men in the
Speaker 1: class just where everything had it out here on the
Speaker 1: football field or in the field or on the way
Speaker 1: to the house. So sitting here and I see it
Speaker 1: in the comments where man, I think it don't sound
Speaker 1: like he No, I didn't graduate. No, I ain't no
Speaker 1: educated motherfucker, but I ain't no thumb motherfuck. That part
Speaker 1: to the fact I'm smart on the speet ship. I'm
Speaker 1: when I see something, I know, yeah, name you feel me.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna coming and read no book to
Speaker 1: be on nobody else's level. This was and that's not
Speaker 1: what it's all about, James, because see, I got a
Speaker 1: homeboy man that didn't great sula fromience, but he's a
Speaker 1: bigion there. He got in the real estate, he became
Speaker 1: proficient in his craft. As his hustle, he came to
Speaker 1: proficient in it. I tell her brothers, if you can
Speaker 1: go out there and seeal, do you can run a business.
Speaker 1: And it's all about I'm gonna tell you, hustling was
Speaker 1: sure to teach you about margins. Hustand would teach you
Speaker 1: about legistics of being somewhere about organization, because if you're
Speaker 1: not organized, hustling, you can get You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you might not come back home. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You just have to learn what you what you're doing
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. Once you got it down to a science,
Speaker 1: you can't lose because now you know, just like this business.
Speaker 1: Then in the podcast ship, I don't have no clue.
Speaker 1: But how do I how do I shoot out and
Speaker 1: talk or even be on the business level if I
Speaker 1: have no knowledge? So me first I had to say,
Speaker 1: I need to read up on some ship. I need
Speaker 1: to look at some ship. I need to This is
Speaker 1: the only way that you get it. This is the
Speaker 1: only way. You know, you ain't ain't playing yourself. This
Speaker 1: is the only and each and everybody gotta take that
Speaker 1: whatever the funk they're doing, In fact, you see you're
Speaker 1: just seeing it those James, how many times have you
Speaker 1: called me and asked me questions? A lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of times. But that's how you learned. And if
Speaker 1: I already gave you any resistance as far as giving information.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it used to be funny.
Speaker 1: I just give James. Like we said in the restaurant
Speaker 1: one day and I was trying to show James something.
Speaker 1: James got got mad at me, and I was wondering
Speaker 1: why he got mad. But then I realized what I
Speaker 1: was doing. I said, you know what, that was my
Speaker 1: bad because I didn't sit down. And actually, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take him from point A to point see.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And it's like, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So the thing is what we have to do. We
Speaker 1: can't be ashamed to help each other. Because my thing
Speaker 1: is this right here right I've worked hard to build
Speaker 1: this network up to what it is. You know me
Speaker 1: and Doggy Dumonds. It wouldn't just me. You know me
Speaker 1: and you know everybody else, James included. We work as
Speaker 1: a team. I don't tell people when the people. Whenever
Speaker 1: somebody come to tell me what the job I do,
Speaker 1: I say, no, that's us, is James McDonald is, your
Speaker 1: moth is Brian, it's everybody else, were working anybody, And
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like, this right here, this is
Speaker 1: my most probless a cheating. I tell you why because
Speaker 1: I look up sometimes and say, man, but everybody got
Speaker 1: paid this. It might not have been nobody got rich,
Speaker 1: but everybody. You know what I mean, Because it's about
Speaker 1: working as a team. Exactly that aspect of it. But
Speaker 1: it's like this, you can't get five black men and
Speaker 1: be successful. You can, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's gonna break down, just like all these the artists
Speaker 1: and all of these cats, everybody that was a group
Speaker 1: have fell apart. You can go all the way back
Speaker 1: to the Temptations and everybody, because everybody got their own
Speaker 1: mentality and their own agenda and ain't nobody really shitting
Speaker 1: down and really having that that man and man kind
Speaker 1: of said, this is where we're going. So we, you know,
Speaker 1: set goal and set a goal at five opposed to
Speaker 1: me setting my own goal. I don't give a funk
Speaker 1: where y'all going, but I'm going here. And we don't
Speaker 1: do that with each other. We ain't uplifting towards each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have to be up lifting towards each other. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Man, It's like and it's from alas
Speaker 1: be in all life time. Yeah, I kind of disagree
Speaker 1: with you, bro. You know where I think it's art
Speaker 1: comes at. I think it comes to where us holding
Speaker 1: ourselves accountable that I think if you start right here,
Speaker 1: I think if we do it, we break that cycle
Speaker 1: of brothers not being able to work together. Because the
Speaker 1: thing is, it's all about communication at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. Right, if we stay communicating with each other
Speaker 1: and stay keeping it one hundred with each other instead
Speaker 1: of trying to outdo because one thing I see we do.
Speaker 1: We love to sit up and talk about wife folk, right,
Speaker 1: but if we can get one up on our brother
Speaker 1: that don't know as much, rather than let's teach them,
Speaker 1: guess what we do. You see the music, you will
Speaker 1: see You see the music in the music industry all
Speaker 1: the time. Right. You will see a brother to claim
Speaker 1: he got funked over by somebody, right, and as soon
Speaker 1: as he get an artist, guess what he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: doing the same thing that somebody did him, instead of
Speaker 1: him teaching him and saying, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be different. You know what I mean. It's hard to
Speaker 1: expect somebody to have an understanding and they don't have
Speaker 1: an understanding. True, you can't make it, my fucker, I understand.
Speaker 1: That's another part of you giving your blessing on a way.
Speaker 1: I mean, you blessed to be able to have an
Speaker 1: understand You blessed to be able to see what you
Speaker 1: see and feel. How you feel I am too. He
Speaker 1: is too, but that don't mean he gonna be, he
Speaker 1: gonna be, she gonna be. It's just like we said earlier.
Speaker 1: Everybody got their own mind. Some people going through mental trips.
Speaker 1: You just don't know where a person is. And it's
Speaker 1: it's it's rough as tough as hard. Yeah, for those
Speaker 1: people doing the man stay with must work. I mean
Speaker 1: everybody just gotta look at it. And we could do
Speaker 1: this all day, right, just like you see everybody on
Speaker 1: his Facebook and the social media and ship fuck. This
Speaker 1: practice is what we preach. How we're gonna reach this cat.
Speaker 1: How we're gonna reach this cat. That's why I said
Speaker 1: it was important to get uh what's his name them
Speaker 1: from kitchen uh porking them and and uh what's his
Speaker 1: name for reach coast, to get all of those guys
Speaker 1: just to do the different shows and then show people
Speaker 1: it's up for you to to to absorb the ship
Speaker 1: that we're trying to bring you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's time to stop this type of ship. They not
Speaker 1: getting it because they outre shooting each other on the quarantine.
Speaker 1: Why the fund is you out there in the cart
Speaker 1: with a gun looking for somebody to shoot and and
Speaker 1: motherfucker's is dying from this and that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that's because we ain't understanding that quarantine
Speaker 1: means to stay in the house. You can come, you
Speaker 1: can come from hanging out and go home. My little
Speaker 1: cousin died from it hanging out. Take it to a
Speaker 1: daughter and a grand baby. So now the rest of
Speaker 1: my missions is like, oh, that ship is for real.
Speaker 1: That's just real. But we take everything for granted. Let's
Speaker 1: not taking for granting. But I think we just need
Speaker 1: to practice, practice what we preach, and and be more
Speaker 1: I think, more responsible for what we're doing. It's like
Speaker 1: I want to perfect this because I want to reach
Speaker 1: these cats right here. It's I want to show these
Speaker 1: cats that these conversations right here, these mother fuler's right
Speaker 1: here and been through it. You hear this man right here,
Speaker 1: the touch millions of dollars. How many brothers in the
Speaker 1: hood donna touch that type of ship exactly reach hand.
Speaker 1: He could probably tell you how to keep it. So
Speaker 1: you want to make the mistakes, then you know a
Speaker 1: boy the fifth balls he did so man was covering
Speaker 1: the recovery. You know what I'm saying I'm in recovery mold.
Speaker 1: So what us being about to wrap this up? Man?
Speaker 1: Tell everybody what you've got going on on? Man too.
Speaker 1: I actually have a television so that I put together
Speaker 1: called the Hustle Up Show, um, and show you how
Speaker 1: to buy low, sell high and stay tuned. It's it's
Speaker 1: really big. Then I got organizations called put down the
Speaker 1: downs and pick up a hustle, and I got a
Speaker 1: lot of people behind me all that. How did you
Speaker 1: get in touch times? Down? How sole up? Baby? Um?
Speaker 1: One good way to get in touch with me with
Speaker 1: be do the Hustle Up Show dot com? Check me
Speaker 1: out sure, and then you have it. Man. We texted
Speaker 1: a lot of topics to night. Um. I think they
Speaker 1: all said the same thing. Man, I'm gonna leave y'all
Speaker 1: with this. Man. What did my boys say? Man? From
Speaker 1: the My Beach song? Man, it's a world side? And
Speaker 1: nobody say where did that lyric come from? But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell y'all, man, we need some periless times right now.
Speaker 1: We are abody to get this ship together. Man, we
Speaker 1: real quickly. We're gonna find out fast. I'm prepaying my shop.
Speaker 1: I got waters and guns. I don't need nothing else.
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to kill us. Man. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you because because if you look at
Speaker 1: it like this man, with this whole thing. Man, because
Speaker 1: I've been studying this stuff, you know, and I'm making
Speaker 1: my business. I'm doing continent. I just don't want to
Speaker 1: And when I come on this microphone, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to spit no alonliness, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to know what I'm talking about and reversed with it.
Speaker 1: So if somebody come at me, I got my facts together.
Speaker 1: The thing he was, Man, we are a target right
Speaker 1: now us as like men especially, we are targeting or
Speaker 1: now they're attacking our women and putting our women in jail. Man,
Speaker 1: get it together, people, fun Takashi and all that other stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: look at the stuff that's gonna educate you. Get your
Speaker 1: mind right. Don't fall from oaky doging distractions. Man. We
Speaker 1: out of here in that part now