1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike, joined this week by my 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: co host and wife, Kelsey. How are you cracking open 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: a cold one? Coldbrew? 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: That is? 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 3: That is a just my normal can of coldbrew? 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: Today? 8 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: The question is is it okay for actors to drag 9 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: the movies that sometimes either kickstarted their careers or just 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: came at a point where they really needed these roles 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: because oh, he has some drama here that I wasn't expecting. 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: I got some thoughts. 13 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: In the movie review, we'll be talking about the new 14 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Hunger Games movie. It's the prequel to the movies we 15 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: know and love. And then in the trailer park, we 16 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: have a look at Marvel's, well not the MCU Marvel, 17 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: but the Sony Marvel. They're making Madam Webb, and I 18 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: think it actually looks pretty good. 19 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: Wait, there's the Sony marvels Now. 20 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the Disney Marvel. 21 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: And the Sony Marvel has always been This is great 22 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: for me to talk with you because I feel like 23 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: I just know it. 24 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: I think you need to make a diagram and sell 25 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: it on the interwe. 26 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: So there's the MCU, which is Disney yes, Sony Marvel side. 27 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: Now the Fox Marvel has been bought by Disney, so 28 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: that's why there's the Deadpool Wolverine movie happening. So the 29 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: Sony side has like all like the lower tier characters, 30 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: mostly villains. So they're making Madam Webb and the trailer 31 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: just came out. 32 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: This is like when I try to explain to you 33 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: who on the Housewives doesn't like each other exactly. 34 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: This is how you feel and that I'm learning about 35 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. 36 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have been watching it with me lately. 37 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so we'll get into the episode. Thank 38 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: you for listening, Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out 39 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: to the Monday Morning Movie Crew. 40 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: And now let's talk movies. 41 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 4: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast, 42 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like 43 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 4: never before in a movie podcast. 44 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 5: A man with so much movie knowledge. He's basically like 45 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 5: a walking IMTB with glasses. From the Nashville Podcast Network. 46 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: This is Movie Mikes Movie Podcast. 47 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: So the Internet is in a debate because of what 48 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Jacob Blordi says said about really the movie did they 49 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: put him on the map. It was his first major. 50 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: Role I was gonna say they put him on the map. 51 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I already knew of him a little bit. But I 52 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: feel like to get a movie franchise on Netflix that 53 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: have not one, not two, but three movies a trilogy 54 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: so recent the first one came out in twenty eighteen. 55 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody drag a movie so quickly. So 56 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: what happened exactly? 57 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: So I sent this to you earlier in the week. 58 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: I got my pulse on the Celebrity Drama and I 59 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: was like, we got to talk about this. Jacob Alordi 60 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: said that the Kissing Booth movies are ridiculous and that 61 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: before he even did them, he thought they were ridiculous. 62 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: And I feel like even along the line said he 63 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: like didn't want to do them. 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did not want to do them. 65 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: And I really feel like it's a case of biting 66 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: the hand that feeds you. Yeah, slash burning bridges. One 67 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: thing my parents taught me. You never burn a bridge. 68 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: I had a job I hated out of college. You 69 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: leave on as good as terms as you can. You 70 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: just don't go public with like I hate. I wish 71 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: I hadn't done them, Like, don't most actors start out 72 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: doing things. They end up eating you for. 73 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: The most part, unless you get really lucky getting your 74 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: first role being something iconic that also you like being 75 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: remembered for. 76 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: It's a fun in the door. 77 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 78 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone watches The Kissing Booth and says, wow, 79 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: this should have been nominated for an Oscar. It can't 80 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: be fun. Like it's just silly. I don't know why 81 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: he's like acting. It's like, all of a sudden, you 82 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: do Euphoria and you play Elvis in an A twenty 83 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: four movie, and you think you're like God's gift to 84 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: this earth. 85 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. 86 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: It kind of feels like the kid in high school 87 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: who used to be nerdy and then one summer they 88 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: get taller and ripped, and then they come back and 89 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: they don't they alienate all those nerd friends they had. 90 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what he's doing right now. 91 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: I don't think we had anyone like that in my school. 92 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh no, we had that, And to be like, oh. 93 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: I didn't even want to do them. It's like, is 94 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: that true or were you like, Wow, I finally got 95 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: a right. 96 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. 97 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: I think at that moment to get anything on Netflix 98 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: and to get a franchise is an actor's dream. I 99 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: think he is hot right now as far as the 100 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: terms of his career, of he has a lot of 101 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: roles coming to him now, he can be a little 102 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: bit more selective because I even saw him saying things 103 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: about he was upset at things they didn't let his 104 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: character do. He said it was bs that his character 105 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: in the movie couldn't smoke cigarettes. So it just feels 106 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: like he's trying to be way too cool now to 107 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: look back on those roles. 108 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of teens are watching those movies 109 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: exactly as the society have decided that smoking cigarettes is 110 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: not great for your health, So let's not model it now. 111 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: I realize people in Euphoria are doing terrible things that 112 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: people shouldn't be modeling either, But I'm just saying euphoria 113 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: is not targeted towards like young teens. I feel like 114 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: Kissing Booth is just like, it's pretty mild. I feeling 115 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: most people could watch it. 116 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: And we watched those movies and we knew how ridiculous 117 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: they were, but that's that kind of that genre of 118 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: f It rarely made us like a more Yeah, like 119 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: you know that you know what you're going into, and 120 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: watching a movie like that, you're not expecting to have 121 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: a cinematic experience. You just want to watch something that's 122 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: a little bit mindless, like you said, campy and just 123 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: you know what it is. 124 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: It is like watching a Hallmark Christmas film. 125 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: I would say a higher quality, but. 126 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: I'm saying in like a formulaic you know what you're getting, 127 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: you know what you're getting into. You're not expecting this 128 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: to like be nominated for Oscars. So yeah, I thought 129 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: that was not great of him. Kind of makes them 130 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: come off like a douchebag. 131 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah. 132 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: Overall, How do we feel, though, in general about actors 133 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: talking crap about their movies and dragging their roles. In 134 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: this case, I would say I'm not okay with it 135 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: because it's so soon. 136 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: I love it, I love the drama. 137 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: I love somebody being able to speak openly about having 138 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: a bad experience with the director, with the fan base. 139 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: I think that creates a great dialogue and it also 140 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: makes actors feel more human to me. But I feel 141 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: like from a business standpoint. 142 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: To be so close to it to where you could 143 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: still want to go back and work with Netflix a 144 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: bad move, but I love the drama. 145 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: There's a difference between looking back on your career and 146 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: saying you didn't like a part versus just like completely 147 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: roasting something that kind of launched your career. Like, I 148 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: think there's a difference. And I also think the point 149 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: of being an actor is to get better and better 150 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: and to get better roles, Like I don't think the 151 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 3: intent is to Again, yes, there are some people who 152 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: like get launched and to start them with a role 153 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: in like a Scorsese film or something, but that's not 154 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: most people. Most people start out not even getting Netflix, 155 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: doing like low budget things like this was probably not 156 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: low budget because it was Netflix. He probably got paid 157 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 3: well for it. 158 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: And it's also dragging the fans of you in that 159 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: film and making them seem almost less dand for enjoying that. Yeah, 160 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: they probably discovered you from watching those movies, and they 161 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: still like going back and watching those movies because you 162 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: were in that in those movies, And here you're out saying, eh, 163 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: they're terrible and anybody who likes them should feel bad. 164 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: That's how I feel. 165 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: From a statement, I think it's no different than looking back. 166 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: If I looked back at pictures of like outfits I 167 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: wore ten years ago, I could laugh on them. 168 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, ten years almost feel like ten years is the number. 169 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: I feel like you have. You can laugh yourself or 170 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: laugh at projects you've done or whatever. But I think again, 171 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: there's the fine line between laughing and making the audience 172 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: part of the laughter and being like, oh man, like 173 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: I know those were silly, but like people loved them. 174 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: And then there's like making fun of the project and 175 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: the audience, which I think is what he. 176 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Did, feels just a little snooty. 177 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: He's way high brow now, Yes, So what we're gonna 178 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: look at is some other actors who have dragged their roles, 179 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: either because they didn't like the way the end product 180 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: came out, they didn't like their performance, or it came 181 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: at a point in their career where it felt like 182 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: a step back for them. So the first one I 183 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: have is George Clooney saying why he didn't like doing 184 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: Batman and Robin called it a mistake and said he 185 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 1: even had a poster of that movie afterward to remind 186 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: him not to do movies solely for a commercial purpose, 187 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: which is what Batman and Robin was. They were still 188 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: cashing in on the success of Batman throughout the nineties 189 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: and writing that wave, and really that movie was made 190 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: to create toys and to sell products to kids, because 191 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: there was no value to that movie inside of the 192 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Batman world, aside from being able to launch another toy line, 193 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: aside from being able to sell tickets and the even 194 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: the suits in that movie were created for the sole 195 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: purpose of making the exact same toy to sell the kids. 196 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: So the direction of that movie that was it. It 197 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: was focused on that. And then you have George Clooney 198 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: in the batsuit with the bat nipples. You had a 199 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: terrible story, you had a terrible villain, and arguably the 200 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: worst Batman movie of all time in that one. I 201 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: feel like he can look back at and say, yeah, 202 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: that wasn't a good idea. 203 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: Also, he's George Clooney, He's on a much more storied career. 204 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: He's spanned decades, He's done lots of things. I feel 205 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: like he can again Jacob Lord is so new. 206 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at ye. 207 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: George Clooney in the nineties, he could have done any 208 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: movie he wanted to. And I think at that point 209 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: it's cool to be able to say that you. 210 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: Were Batman for any actor? 211 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's probably why he leaned towards 212 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: the role, even though maybe he didn't believe in the 213 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: script or even believe in the director, thinking Okay, I 214 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: want to be Batman and we'll see what happens. 215 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: But then looking back on yeah, that probably what a 216 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: good idea. 217 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't feel I feel like that one's acceptable. 218 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: Next up, I have Jessica Alba, who did not like 219 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: her role in Fantastic Four playing Susan Storm. 220 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: How did I know that was going to be the 221 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: role she didn't like. 222 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: And that after that movie, which there were two movies, 223 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,119 Speaker 1: she almost quit acting altogether because it was a horrible experience. 224 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: The director criticized her during an emotional scene where she 225 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: was crying, asked her to make it look more real 226 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: and also find a way to cry prettier. So it 227 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: also feels like the director relationship in this movie was 228 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: pretty awful. They were very judgmental, particularly on her and 229 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: the way she was acting, and they even had to 230 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: see gi in tears afterwards because of her performance. 231 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: So who cries pretty? Have we seen Kim Kardashian's ugly cry. 232 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: You gotta cry? 233 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: Just look like. 234 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that a lot of how hard 235 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: it is for actors who have an emotional scene to 236 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: make themselves cry, Like what do they have to think about? 237 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what I would 238 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: think about it, because, especially because you have to keep 239 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: doing it over and over again and remaking yourself feel emotional. 240 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: You also don't get emotional super easy. I could think 241 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: of a lot of things. I could read a story 242 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: on the internet about, like a sweet old man who 243 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: gets invited to his neighbors for tea, and like I 244 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: could cry thinking about that. I cry like seventeen tiktoks 245 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: a day. 246 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: But going back to the movie in Fantastic Four, which 247 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: both of the movies from the two thousands I feel 248 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: like aren't great movies. I feel like there's never been 249 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: a great Fantastic Four movie, which is surprising to me 250 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: that they are now going to reboot it yet again. 251 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I saw the rumor that Pedro Pascal is set to 252 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: start in the movie, and everybody's excited about it, but 253 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I just can't see it again. 254 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 3: I think we need to put that franchise to bed. 255 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: I don't think you need to make another Fantastic Four. 256 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: To bed talking under the covers. But it's sleep, let's 257 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: not let's not wake it up anymore. 258 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: I just think the characters don't translate onto the big 259 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: screen because they work in the comic books. When you 260 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: try to make the live action movie, the action just 261 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: comes across so cheesy. Mister Fantastic his abilities just look 262 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: kind of blame. So I'm not that excited for a 263 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Fantastic Four movie. I think if anybody would give me 264 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: any interest, it would probably be Petro Pascal right now, 265 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: because he is in everything and does a really great 266 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: job in any movie he's in. But overall, I don't 267 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: really think we need to reboot that series, but I 268 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: guess that's what Marvel is trying to do right now. 269 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: But I could see Jessica Alba looking back on that 270 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: role and thinking wasn't great for me. 271 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: I can see bringing up like the director part like 272 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: that is fine, like yeah, speak out against like crappy 273 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: people in power. 274 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: And for Jessica Alba, who really hasn't acted much since 275 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: the late two thousands, so yeah, I can see that one. 276 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: Has she ever had like a great role. 277 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: Great point because there are some actors who I feel 278 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: like we put in an A level category, like never 279 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: had a great role A. 280 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: List and I can't think of a great movie. 281 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: She's strong, she is an A List celebrity, but she 282 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have that quintessential iconic role that everybody knows her for. 283 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: I would also put Gwyneth Paltrow in that category, even 284 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: though she's even though she's won an Oscar, I don't 285 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: feel like she has like that one defying role that 286 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: is like, ah, I see Gwyneth Paltrow and I think 287 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: of this role, not even Pepper Potts. 288 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: I just think of Goop. 289 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of actors 290 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: like that that we hold up to this high standard. 291 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because they, I don't know, their life is 292 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: maybe more so relevant than their actual acting career or 293 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: who they've dated or something. 294 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: I feel like the fact that Gwyneth's did Shallow Howe 295 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 3: really should take her out of the run. 296 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: To be Oh yeah, she also made the list. She 297 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: regrets that movie because it doesn't really hold up well. 298 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: It does not hold up, which a lot of stuff 299 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: from the early two thousand does not hold up well. 300 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,239 Speaker 1: Even I was watching the trailer for the New Garfield 301 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: movie and Chris Pratt is the voice of Garfield now, 302 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: and everybody's mad because it just sounds like Chris Pratt Agan. 303 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: He just was in the Super Mario Brothers movie and 304 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: where everybody Chris Pratt. But if you go back and 305 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: watch even old Garfield cartoons, there are just scenes of 306 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: him like ripping fat people, which is weird when Garfield 307 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: himself is an overweight cat. But even things as innocent 308 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: as kids cartoons don't even hold up. No, but yeah, 309 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: looking at Shallow Hell, that's probably one of the most 310 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: highly successful comedies that does not hold up whatsoever. 311 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: So bad. 312 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: But even two thousand and nine The Hangover, there are 313 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: some quotes in that movie. There are quotes that made 314 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: the trailer of The Hangover that you would be shocked by. 315 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: If you go watch that trailer on YouTube, you will 316 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: be shocked by some of the language used in that trailer. 317 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: How it does not hold up. 318 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: And that's one that does hold up. Is this thrill 319 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: Caesar's Palace? Did he love here? 320 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: Gosh? I love that movie. 321 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: Another one that made the list was Ben Affleck And 322 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: you probably want unduring which. 323 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: Role is it Jealie? Is it Batman? 324 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: It is not Batman. It is actually Daredevil. He says 325 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: that it's the only movie that he regrets that he 326 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: loves the story, he loves the character, but feels like 327 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: the execution of that movie did not do well. 328 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: That's the only one. 329 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: That's the only one. 330 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: Bold statement, Benny. 331 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: But essentially Daredevil was his motivation to do Batman because 332 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: I think he wanted to get the superhero genre right, 333 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: which I feel that Ben Affleck was not a bad Batman. 334 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: I think he was a bad The movie was bad, 335 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: but his performance and the actual look and suit in 336 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: that movie was actually really good and probably the most 337 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: comic book accurate, which is big and important for me, 338 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: and I think is why a lot of fans were 339 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: hYP for that movie and why a lot of people 340 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: will defend that movie. It's just the storyline. The direction 341 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: in all those movies with the Justice League and Batman 342 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: versus Superman were so bad that he didn't have a 343 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: chance to shine. 344 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, good acting can't save a bad 345 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: script or bad creative direction. 346 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: But if you look at the Snyder cut with Ben 347 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: Affleck essentially in the same role, it is so much better. 348 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: Isn't that like one hour longer? 349 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh, it's like four hours long, maybe even five hours. 350 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: I think two Christmases ago. I dove into that and 351 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: ended up loving it. But I feel like Ben Affleck 352 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: is actually a great Batman. He just hasn't been given 353 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: the right story, so I don't really think he needs 354 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: to be given another chance. I think everybody from the 355 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Justice League is pretty much dipping out and done. We 356 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: have Aquaman two coming out next month. 357 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: Which we just saw the trailer for that again, and 358 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: your direct quo was seeing the trailer again, it's even 359 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: worse than I thought it would be. 360 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Well after I saw it the first time, I thought 361 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: it actually looked pretty good. It looked a little intense, 362 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: but then seeing some of the interactions with him and 363 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: some of the other characters, it came off really really 364 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: cheesy to me, and I got that worried feeling again. 365 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: But right now, I'm more excited for what DC has 366 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: coming than I am with Marvel, and Marvel only has 367 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: one new movie coming out next year, which I'm excited 368 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: about because I think they need to take a breather 369 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: on movies and on TV shows, and I think DC 370 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: will have a chance to flourish in that time. I 371 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: think twenty twenty five is gonna be really competitive for 372 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: both Marvel and DC, kind of battling out with all 373 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: the new things they have coming out. But yes, I'm 374 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: a little bit less excited for the new Aquaman. 375 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: Also, I'm disappointed that Ben Affleck made this list because 376 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: at the end, we're gonna do our version of movies. 377 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: We think, yeah, and I was gonna say jeely, But 378 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: I also feel like that's a cop out, that's a given. 379 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: Another one that made the list was Catherine Heigel. Could 380 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: you think of what movie she regrets Knocked Up? Yeah, 381 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: And it's because she thinks the movie is sexist yep, 382 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: and that her character came across as like a shrewd 383 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: as the killed Joy. 384 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: I've also seen that interview because it's what started all 385 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: of the Catherine Heigel hate in like two thousand and seven. 386 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: She does get a. 387 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: Lot of hate, she does. 388 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: And I think they should remake Knocked Up with the 389 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 1: roles reversed of the female being the one who is 390 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: more goofy lovable and the one getting all the laughs 391 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: and the guy being the one who, like she says, 392 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: is the kill joy. Because when you do look at 393 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: that script and even more movies from the early two thousands. 394 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: They are very male driven, and they put a lot 395 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: of these narratives that guys are the ones, they get 396 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: to have all the fun, and the women are the downers. 397 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: Well, in terms of pregnancy, I do feel like the 398 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: men get to have fun while the women have to 399 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: carry a child for forty weeks's. 400 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: Accurate At the time when this movie came out, I 401 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: mean I was like twelve. 402 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: And seven. I was, you were sixteen. 403 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a terrible mass I thought it 404 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and three years born. It 405 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and seven. I was sixteen, 406 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: But even then I don't know anything about parenthood. 407 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: You see it as, oh, it's seth Rogan, let him 408 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: have fun. 409 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I do think she gets a lot 410 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: of hate. She was then known for being this like 411 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: stuck up, just like not a kind person to work 412 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: with or in reality, like I don't think the people 413 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: that worked on Gray's Anatomy with her had bad things 414 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: to say. She and Ellen Pompeo did an interview kind 415 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: of about that about like being a woman in Hollywood, 416 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: and I thought it was really interesting. 417 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: Another one that made the list was Channing Tatum, who's 418 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: straight up just said that he effing hated G I. 419 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: Joe. 420 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: Oh I thought you were gonna say step up, no 421 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: genius Joe, which, yeah, that movie was stupid. 422 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: Channing Tatum is interesting because I think Hollywood really wanted 423 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: to make him a straight on action star. They wanted 424 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: to put him in all these roles because he looked 425 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: the part and like, here, you're gonna be the action guy. 426 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: But he was never really that. 427 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: He was always the romantic comedy guy in my eyes, 428 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: but really a comedic genius who has great comedic timing. 429 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: So I think maybe taking somebody who looks like him 430 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: and realizing, oh, he actually has some really great comedic abilities. 431 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: They type cast him as a pretty face with no 432 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: no thoughts. Yes, just a face. 433 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: That is what it is. But yeah, g I Joe, 434 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: terrible movie. 435 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 3: I only watched it for him. That was in the 436 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: heyday of when I was like in love watch anything, 437 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: but I literally would watch anything. 438 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: And last one that made the list is Robert Pattinson 439 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: who says he does not like Twilight. I have some 440 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: opinions on this. What comes to your mind with hearing 441 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: that he didn't I guess he doesn't like the legacy 442 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: of it because it's what everybody knows him as, and 443 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: it's it was hard for him to break out. 444 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: Of that shell. 445 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: Taylor Lautner said the same thing. Yeah, that's different because 446 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: it created such a fandom. 447 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: It's like a I mean, a one in a million 448 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: type franchise. Come, I mean next to like the Harry 449 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Potters and the Hunger Games. Twilight came out so strong 450 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: and they became so famous and the movies went on 451 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: for or I mean all throughout the late two thousands 452 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: early twenty tens, that it was hard for him even 453 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: up to when The Batman came out of people just 454 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: seeing him as Edward Colin. 455 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 3: That's hard to because that was that wasn't like a 456 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: strong role, that was a strong franchise. So I think 457 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: that one I can understand because he was basically like, 458 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 3: you never gave me a chance to show my actual 459 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: like acting chops, which he's a he is, and so 460 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: people just saw him as a vampire in these cheesy movies. 461 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: So that one I do kind of understand, because that's 462 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: hard when that's like your legacy and that's all people 463 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: see you as in such a like well known franchise. 464 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: I like when things become like pop culture phenomenons. I 465 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: get that one a little bit. And he's not even 466 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: saying he wished she didn't do it, right, Yeah. 467 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: He's just saying that it's one that he doesn't particularly like. 468 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: See and that again, that's different than the Jacob alordie 469 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: because Kissing Booth does not have the fandom that Twilight had, 470 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: and Jacob already has been like, I didn't even want 471 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: to do it before I did it. 472 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: And I think Robert Pattinson also appreciates the platform it 473 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: gave him and the ability to go on and have 474 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: a career. And I don't think he looks down on 475 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Twilight fans. I think it's more his issues that he 476 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: has with the industry and the roles he's been given 477 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: and just kind of erasing that mindset of I'm just 478 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: Edward Colin, which he's had to do a lot of 479 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: movies and almost like overextend himself and his acting abilities 480 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: to show like, look, I can do all these things. 481 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: I have an incredible range. I am not just this 482 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: one note. 483 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: Vampire one of my favorite movies he did. I think 484 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: it was called to Remember Me. 485 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: Oh, he talked about it. 486 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: I don't think you've seen it. 487 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to see it because somebody spoiled Well, 488 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: you told me. 489 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: If someone was me, But I saw it on TikTok 490 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: as well. I saw somebody post the satisfy. 491 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: One was your wife. But yes, he's really good in 492 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: that one. Yeah he's done. He's done a lot of 493 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: things since then that he's proven that he's a great actor. 494 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, you're gonna look at them and think, Twilight, what. 495 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 2: Actor do you have and roles that you think they 496 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: should have regretted? 497 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: Mine was Ben Affleck and Jellie Let me think for 498 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: a second, you go, Okay, well. 499 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: I had ones that I think in another five to 500 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: ten years, these actors will say that I do regret 501 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: these roles. I think eventually Chris Hemsworth is going to 502 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: regret thor ooh tell me more because I think kind 503 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: of like Edward Collen and Robert Pattinson, he just has 504 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: that relationship with that character and the big fan base 505 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: that is the MCU that it's hard for him right 506 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: now to break into doing normal movies. And for me, 507 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: I feel like he is not the best actor, Like 508 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: he is really good at action. 509 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an extraction. 510 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Right yes, and he is trying to kind of bridge 511 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: that gap a little bit of doing a little bit 512 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: of drama. I think it's going to be really hard 513 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: for him when everybody just wants him for his muscles, 514 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: and when the fandom is just I want to see Thor, 515 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: I want to see another Thor installment. So I think 516 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: in maybe ten years he's going to look back and think, 517 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: I really wish I wouldn't have done that. 518 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: But you can't deny the. 519 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: Platform that is the MCU, and at a time where 520 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: he got in that everybody wanted to be a part 521 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: of it, and you can never really deny the legacy 522 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: of what he built there. I just think out of 523 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: everybody in Marvel, it's going to be the hardest for 524 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: him to move on second on that list in the 525 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: same category. I think eventually Chris Evans is gonna lean 526 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: towards not liking the legacy of Captain America, which he 527 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: has had a little bit of an easier time right 528 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: now because he had a career prior to Captain America. 529 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: He was doing movies in the early two thousands, even 530 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: the late two thousands. 531 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: Even he in the Fantastic four. He was full circle. 532 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: I was in there, but even as he was still 533 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: in the MCU, he was putting out other movies. I 534 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: think with him it's more just people seeing him and 535 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: thinking Captain America more so than he has to prove 536 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: to people that he can do other movies. But Chris Hemsworth, 537 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: he is to have the hardest time. And I even 538 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: wonder about other actors who are just known for one role, 539 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: like Micaulay Colkan only really known for Home alone. I 540 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: really think it's hard for child actors because they get 541 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: known for being a young kid, and also still having 542 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: to talk about things from when they were eight years 543 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: old is just really weird. I don't remember things from 544 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: when I was eight years old. To think I could 545 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: have done something then that would go on with me 546 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: at times haunt me for the rest of my life. 547 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: I think that has to be hard. I think you 548 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you are still like a celebrity 549 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: people want to know about you, but it's also hard 550 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: to just keep having to ask questions or find random 551 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: people who want. 552 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: To call you. Kevin McAllister, I have several okay, hit 553 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: me with them. 554 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: Christian Bale in Amsterdam last year. 555 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh, that is a great one. I feel like that 556 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: entire movie was a tax ride off for every single actor. 557 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: I feel like anybody who was ever in an ensemble 558 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: cast movie probably regrets it. Probably everybody also from the 559 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: cast of Cats. 560 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: I was thinking that because Taylor Swift did have a 561 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 3: part in Amsterdam. 562 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: And in Cats and in Cats. 563 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: But I also all defend Taylor Swift till the day 564 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: I die, like she's just having some fun. She don't 565 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 3: get in acting. But I won't go down that road. 566 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: I feel like when you take a role like that 567 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: and you see everybody else who's involved in it, you think, 568 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: how could this go wrong? 569 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: How could I ever regret this? 570 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: And then when you see it come out, you're like, oh, man, 571 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: take my name off the poster, please. 572 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 3: Okay. My next one is Meg Ryan in the Dumpster 573 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: Fire for Romantic Comedy that she just put out. 574 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was so bad. I think that 575 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: is now the worst movie we have seen this year. 576 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're just gonna go ahead and put 577 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: that as the worst of the year. 578 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: We're calling it early. 579 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: We're calling it early because I don't see how I 580 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: can get worse than that. It was called What Happens 581 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: Later and The answer is nothing. 582 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: It is just her and David d'coveney hanging out in 583 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: an airport, which I think just brought all these bad 584 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: feelings of me in an airport being delayed and how 585 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: boring that process is and that experience is. 586 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: Is why would you make a movie about that? 587 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: And my grand finale is every single person who participated 588 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: in Sex and the City Too the movie. 589 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: Oh I think that was another one I saw made 590 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: the list, which one of them regretted it. Maybe all 591 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: of them. 592 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 3: That one does not hold up. The first one is 593 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 3: fine because it's like their friendship. The second one is like, 594 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: not only is it bad, it's culturally insensitive. 595 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: They go to the Middle East, right, yes, they go 596 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: to Abu Dhabi. I love the first one. 597 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 3: I love the first one too, but the second one 598 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: it was just like it's kind of like them with 599 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: like in just like that it's bad and they're just 600 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 3: putting it out there. 601 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: I forgot about it just like then they got a 602 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: third season. 603 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: I oh no, yeah, I think that one they should regret. 604 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: Think you who are ringing that topic today, you're welcome. 605 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 3: I do my best. Is the intern? 606 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: Anything else you would like to say, Well, I guess 607 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: I need you to come back so we can review 608 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Hunger Games because you read the book. 609 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: But I would like to go ahead through out there. 610 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: I don't remember it. I think I read it in 611 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: either twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. And we all 612 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: know I read seventy five books last year, and I 613 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: think I'm almost at sixty for this year, so it's 614 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: like one hundred and thirty five books in between. 615 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: It's also a really long book. 616 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: The movie's gonna be a surprise for me tonight. Couldn't 617 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: tell you what happens. 618 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll come back with that review. Let's 619 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: get into it now. A spoiler free movie review of 620 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Hunger Games The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, And right 621 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: at the top of this review, I would like to 622 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: say historically, I do not like prequels because it's a 623 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: lot of fleshing out a story that I don't really 624 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: care about. In this case, I will say it proved 625 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: me wrong. But we are coming from this from two 626 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: different perspectives because you read the book and enjoyed it mostly. Wait, 627 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: how'd you feel about the book? 628 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: It was hard to get into I'm also trying to 629 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: remember when I read it. 630 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: It came out like twenty twenty. 631 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: So probably beginning of twenty twenty one, and I don't 632 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: remember it being a real page turner, like I remember 633 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: having to motivate myself to finish it. And I loved 634 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: the original Hunger Games. 635 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: So did. 636 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: I loved them. 637 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: One of the few franchises turned movies that I read 638 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: the book and went to see the movie, and I 639 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: finally got the thing what people say, like, the book 640 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: is so much better because it goes so much more 641 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: in depth. 642 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: You did read the Hierums books. 643 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I read every single one. 644 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: I read them like back to back, Like the only 645 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: time that's ever happened that I got so excited about 646 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: a book series that I needed to start the next 647 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: one immediately after finishing the first one. 648 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: Hasn't happened since. 649 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: I didn't read this one because honestly, I'm dumb, and 650 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: the book looked too big and intimidating. 651 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: It was not that big. 652 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: Oh it was a thick book. It was a big book. 653 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: I have fatter books on the bookshelf. 654 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Look at the graphic novels I read now, they are 655 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: paper thin. 656 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: Okay, one of them is not paper thin, So that 657 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: argument doesn't help yourself. 658 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: But I'm just I just couldn't convince myself that I 659 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: wanted to jump back into this world again. I don't 660 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: really love prequels. Oftentimes they deal with a small slice 661 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: of the story of like this is why this person 662 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: is mean. 663 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you don't have the original cast 664 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: of characters that you fell in love with. Yeah, I 665 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: think that's the mad the Hunger Games. 666 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: And you're living in that same world. So I was like, Okay, 667 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm just not it was gonna be mediocre. Even from 668 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: the trailer. It didn't really win me over. But what 669 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: this movie is about, it's the origin story of President 670 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: Snow they're going into the tenth Hunger Games where the 671 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: ratings are starting to decline. People aren't watching them, and 672 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: if people don't watch the Hunger Games, it takes away 673 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: the point of the reason why the Capital does it 674 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: to keep everybody in line. So they are trying to 675 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: find a way to make these games more appealing to people. 676 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of where they start the mentoring process of 677 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: working with one of the tributes to get them likable, 678 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: to get eyeballs onto the screen. So it's the origin 679 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: story of how the Hunger Games came to be what 680 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: we know whenever a cat Andust was involved, but also 681 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: President snow before he was president and his rise and 682 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: going from being a normal person to being the evil 683 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: person we know him as later. 684 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: Overall, what I really. 685 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: Ended up enjoying about this movie is the way they 686 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: depicted the actual hunger and the scarcity of food and 687 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: the reason people were going into these games is because 688 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: of having a fighting chance, and also just the depiction 689 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: of these characters of I feel like in that first 690 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: movie of the original one, they kind of went into 691 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: it scared unless they were in like the tier of 692 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: like District one or District two, they were all kind 693 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: of frightened and going along with it. But here they 694 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: were violent, they were angry, they were lashing out, and 695 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a much more accurate representation of 696 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: what somebody in this position would be like. So I 697 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: liked that it had a bit of a more gritty 698 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: feel to it. And aside from that, the part that 699 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: really won me over was the action that was so 700 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: much more brutal and. 701 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: It strussed me. This movie felt more stressful. Like I 702 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: will say, I didn't enjoy that part. I just felt 703 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: like my blood pressure was rising the whole movie. 704 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: And it was surprising to me how bloody this one 705 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: ended up being brutal, like some of the kill scenes 706 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: were even like jarring to me that if this movie 707 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: had an effort in it, it probably could have. 708 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 2: Leaned towards a rated R rating. 709 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: And I think the reason they did that is because 710 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: this movie was very much for the fan base of 711 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: the Hunger Games, and we felt that going into this theater, 712 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: which was surprisingly packed, and that it felt like there 713 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: was a passion there for Hunger Games that I didn't 714 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: really know still existed. 715 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: So I feel like this movie. 716 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: Was made knowing that these fans of the original ones 717 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: are now about ten years older, a little bit more mature, 718 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: we can kind of go there a little bit more 719 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: than we could ten years ago of showing the brutality 720 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: of the Hunger Games. So I found that really appealing 721 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: to me. 722 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: Yes, there was a youngest child in the row behind me. Yes, 723 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: I think this kid was maybe eight or nine. 724 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: So I feel like in a good way, it gave 725 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: the hardcore fans what they wanted and didn't really worry 726 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: about alienating the people who were just maybe casually watching 727 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: this movie. 728 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: So it being a. 729 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: Prequel, I feel like you still have to know and 730 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: have watched those movies going into this one, because they 731 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: don't spend a whole lot of time explaining what the 732 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: Hunger Games are. There are a lot of references to 733 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: the original movie. We go back to the Hanging Tree 734 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: song in this movie, like small little references song. Oh, 735 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: I've been saying it ever since we watched the talk. 736 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: In my head, I was like, this is like. 737 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: To the tree you're talking about the dance remix. 738 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: So the dance remix got like infiltrated pop radio, which 739 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: I forgot how impactful these movies were when they came out. 740 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: So it kind of reminded me that there is a 741 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: big fan base there that was itching for a Hunger 742 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: Games movie, because really I wasn't and I love those movies. 743 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: I love the books, but going into this one, I 744 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: just had no real expectations, so I was surprised of 745 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: how much I ended up enjoying it. 746 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: So how did you feel about it overall? 747 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: Man? I felt pretty mad. Really, I just didn't have 748 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: the appeal I think too, like you're supposed to understand 749 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: why Snow is the way he is, but it was 750 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: hard to like, not hate him from the beginning, knowing 751 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: what he becomes. And then they had his tribute Lucy Gray, 752 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: and I get that her like people are a singing people. Okay, 753 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: there was too much singing. There was so much singing, 754 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 3: and I just it was too much. 755 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: Even for it being called a songbird. It was too 756 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: much songbird for you. 757 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: Too much song, not enough birds, too much song. 758 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: That did make me think. 759 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: The one thing I did not enjoy about this movie 760 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: is it felt like two separate movies crammed into one. 761 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: There were three parts. It would be like part one, 762 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: part two, part three. It felt so disjointed. And then 763 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: I kind of felt like the ending was a little rushed. 764 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: I feel like those first ninety minutes, if that was 765 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: just a movie, I probably would have loved it, but 766 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't have told the entire origin story that 767 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: they needed to tell. And obviously it's going based off 768 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: the book. But that felt like a very complete ninety 769 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: minute movie to me. And then it really just shifted 770 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: after that. And then, like you said, yes, the ending 771 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: was just very rushed, almost matter of fact, that you 772 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: didn't really see the development of Snow like I was 773 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: expecting to see. 774 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say though Viola Davis giver an Oscar, 775 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 3: she was so good in it. 776 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: Of course I'm going to compare it to the original ones, 777 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: but there is no replacement here for Jennifer Lawrence, and 778 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: having two real strong leads in a movie like the 779 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: two leads here just don't wouldn't really carry a franchise 780 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: like they did with Catnus Eberdeen and Peta in those movies. 781 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: So I know, those movies focused a lot on. 782 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: The love story and that whole starcross lovers plotline and 783 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: everything that develops in their relationships. That was a big 784 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: driving force in those movies. So I don't really feel 785 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: like they could continue making more Hunger Games prequels and 786 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: spin offs that would have any kind of resemblance of 787 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: the original franchise because as far as just straight on 788 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: actor performances, it was so much better in those original movies. 789 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: And aside from Viola Davis and Jason Schwartzman, who I 790 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: know was so good. He was funny, and I just 791 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: it just reminds me that he can do anything quirky 792 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: so well. 793 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So aside from Hunter, Schaeffer was also phenomenal as 794 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: Tigris Snow's cousin. 795 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like overall the supporting characters supporting probably better. 796 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: But the thing that excited me too was my biggest 797 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: criticism with the first Hunger Games movie was that they 798 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: didn't spend enough to make it look good. This one 799 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: looks so much better the actual arena where the Hunger 800 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: Games take place. I just feel like even the costume 801 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: design was more thought out to make it more cinematically appealing. 802 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: You also probably have a bigger budget though, because they 803 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 3: knew how successful the first three were, so Weir's probably 804 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 3: are banking on that success and able to throw more money. 805 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: And like you said, it's what a decade plus later, 806 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: the visual effects have changed, The ability to make movies 807 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: look better have changed. 808 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't have the money to invest in that 809 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: first Hunger Games movie to do it justice visually. I 810 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: feel like even some of the special effects in that one, 811 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 1: really throughout that entire franchise don't really hold up to 812 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: today's standards. If they were to remake those movies now, 813 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: they would look entirely different. So that's also what excited 814 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: me about this movie is I feel like the world 815 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: of pin m finally looks like how I envisioned it 816 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: while I was reading the books, so visually looks so 817 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: much better. The action is so much better, the acting 818 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: is still there. I just think as far as the 819 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: main characters here, even though it's a president's no origin story, 820 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: nobody was as likable as Jennifer Lawrence was gonna be. 821 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: There was no one to grasp onto and route for. 822 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: So overall, what would you rate the movie? 823 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: I would give it three out of five jabber jays. 824 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: A lot lower than I was expected. I thought you 825 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: were more excited about this one than I would be. 826 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: I was, and then I didn't like it as munch 827 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: so I would. 828 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: I'd love to see somebody let down from a book. 829 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: Do you feel that, though, that you always liked the 830 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: book more than the movie. 831 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 3: Yes, except for where the crowdeds sing, and I've talked 832 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 3: about that on here before that I liked the movie better. 833 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: I had lower expectations going into this movie, and I 834 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: feel like this movie had me from the very beginning 835 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: and sucked me in with the action, suck me in 836 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: with all of the visual aspects that I ended up 837 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: really liking it. If it would have just been that 838 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: first ninety minutes, I probably would have given this movie 839 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: a four point five easily. I do think at one 840 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: point it kind of loses its footing and goes a 841 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: little bit all over the place, and you really have 842 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: to pay attention to the development of Snow, which I 843 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: feel like could have been executed a little bit better. 844 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: But overall, I love this movie way more than I 845 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: was expecting. I give it a strong four out of 846 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: five guitars. I think if they wouldn't have the guitars, 847 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: not the guitars, if they honestly would have taken out 848 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: some of the singing and not focused so much on 849 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: that character, I feel like it would have been a 850 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: stronger movie. I'm happy with. If this is the last 851 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: thing we see from Hunger Games, I'm good unless she 852 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: decides to write another book that focuses on maybe like 853 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: the very first Hunger Games, which I thought. 854 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: Is what this book and movie was going to be. 855 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: I think that would be interesting to know about that history. 856 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: But I just think you'll start to lose all of 857 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: these recognizable characters that you learn from watching all the 858 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: other movies, reading all the books, that it would just 859 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: feel like an entirely different movie. Because this one I 860 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: felt like it was going to be a little bit 861 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: of a stretch, but it actually worked for me. 862 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: That is our thoughts on The Hunger Games The Ballad 863 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 3: of Songbirds and Snakes. 864 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 2: There you go, it's time to head down to movie. 865 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: Mike Paul, I am hesitant to get excited about a 866 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Sony Spider Verse movie. Last time I came on here 867 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: and shared with you Craven the Hunter, which is their 868 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: R rated villain origin story. I think it's just because 869 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: what they did was one of my favorite Spider Man 870 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: villains of all time, Venom. As much as I love 871 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: that character, I can't say in good faith that I 872 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: love both of those movies, even though Solomon Theaters. I've 873 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: rewatched them since they've been on streaming. I'll take them 874 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: for what they are. But as far as the quality 875 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: of the Sony Spider Verse side, it really hasn't been there. 876 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: They have created arguably one of the worst, if not 877 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: the worst Marvel movie of all time with Morbius, but 878 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: they are trying to counter program the MCU, which they 879 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: are really in no way associated with. Their two worlds 880 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: have no real plans on merging, although they tease us 881 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: with it, but they focus solely on origin stories mostly 882 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: of anti heroes and villains. But in this case, what 883 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about today is Madame Web. At least in 884 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: the comic books, Madame Web is this mentor to a 885 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: lot of Marvel characters. Spider Man in particular, is the 886 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: character that she guided along. In this movie, specifically, she 887 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: is played by Dakota Johnson, and she has this ability 888 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: to see the future and ends up connecting her with 889 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: these three other characters. One of them is played by 890 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: Sidney Sweeney, who is going to be the character who 891 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: goes on to be Spider Woman. So there are some 892 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: interesting things actually going on in this story. And again 893 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: that is what I love that they are focusing solely 894 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: on origin stories and self contained movies. They're really not 895 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: trying to build this whole, big cinematic world. Maybe they 896 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: loosely connect, but all of their stories kind of exist 897 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: in this world. But I think they're just trying to 898 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: make good movies that will not bomb at the box office. 899 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: So before I tell you more about Madam Webb, here's 900 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: just a little bit of the trailer. 901 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't understand what's happening. 902 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: I've been having visions. I knew he was gonna die. 903 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm seeing the future. So Dakota Johnson plays 904 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: this paramedic and she sees these people and has visions 905 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: of them dying, and that leads her to partnering up 906 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: with Sidney Sweeney's character, who, like I said, goes on 907 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: to become Spider Woman. 908 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 2: You also have em L. Roberts in this cast. 909 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: She's not featured in the trailer, but it looks like 910 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: from the listing on IMDb, She's going to play Spider 911 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: Man's mom, Mary Parker. So the world here are so 912 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: connected without giving us Spider Man, but instead you have 913 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Madam Webb, who was connected to all of these Spider 914 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: Man related characters. When I first heard that Dakota Johnson 915 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: and Sidney Sweeney were attached to the project, I didn't 916 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: know what the tone of the movie was going to be. 917 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: But after watching the trailer, it has kind of a 918 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: darker tone than I was expecting. I did think it 919 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: was gonna have more of an R rated feel to it. 920 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: It still doesn't have a rating, but it looks like 921 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: a maybe PG thirteen movie, which I think I'm okay 922 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: with because you can kind of walk that line. I 923 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: think they still, like Marvel, want to appeal to a 924 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: younger audience, but man, they would have really committed to 925 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: an R rated movie like they are doing with Craven 926 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: the Hunter. The villain in this movie actually looks like 927 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: it could lend itself to that really well. When it 928 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: comes to the stars of this movie, I think that 929 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: is what's giving me some faith that will actually be 930 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: pretty good. I think Dakota Johnson is highly underrated as 931 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: an actor. She has been in so many great movies 932 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: that she's become one of those people that if her 933 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: name is attached to it, I'm going to watch it. 934 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: Some movies she's done recently, like Chashaw, Real Smooth, The 935 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: Lost Daughter, Peanut Butter Falcon, she has shown her range, 936 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: but I really haven't seen her in a role like 937 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: this in a superhero world. And I think she's also 938 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: one of those actors who has had a role that 939 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: has kind of kept her type cast in the public mind. 940 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: The Fifty Shades of Great movies were the ones that 941 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: put her on the map, and people just see her 942 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: and associator with those movies, despite the fact that she 943 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: has done some really great work since then. I would 944 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: say with Peanut Butter Falcon alone, she has proved herself 945 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: that she is so much more than her character in 946 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: those movies. And then you have Sidney Sweeney, who is 947 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: really pulling at becoming the next big Hollywood star, also 948 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: starring in the movie we talked about recently with Glenn Powell. 949 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: Now she's in a Marvel franchise, so I think maybe 950 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: there's a plan for her if this movie does well, 951 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: to give her a solo Spider Woman movie. So this 952 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: will be the first of the Spider Verse movies to 953 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: come out next year. It's coming out on February fourteenth, 954 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, followed by Craven the Hunter on August thirtieth, 955 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: And they're still supposed to be the third Venom movie 956 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: coming out on November eighth, but that movie is still filming, 957 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: so that one will probably get pushed back just because 958 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: of the writers and actor strike probably held up that 959 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: movie a little bit. So I see one of my 960 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: theories clashing with one of my others, because I was saying, 961 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: in order to help the MCU right now is they 962 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: need to take a little bit of a break and 963 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,959 Speaker 1: only put out one movie, and they are actually doing 964 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: that next year in twenty twenty four. We're only getting 965 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: Deadpool three. But then you have the Sony Spider Verse 966 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: side doing their own thing putting out these three movies. 967 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 1: So I wonder to the general audience if they're gonna 968 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: be able to differentiate between both of those, which I 969 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: think for the most part, even talking to Kelsey earlier, 970 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: she doesn't really know the difference. So I think that 971 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: also hurts them a little bit because you just see 972 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,959 Speaker 1: Marvel and you think MCU, and then you see bad 973 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 1: box office numbers and you associate that all with Marvel 974 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: not doing well. So I'm a little biased here because 975 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: Spider Man is my favorite superhero and I just want 976 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: any kind of Spider Man related content, And I'm not 977 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: expecting these movies to really break new ground on the genre. 978 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: I just like to see characters get the attention that 979 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,479 Speaker 1: they don't normally get in the MCU. I'm also drawn 980 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: to films where the main character isn't exactly a hero. 981 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: And it's probably also because I'm such a big Dakota 982 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: Johnson fan that I am actually excited for the movie again. 983 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: It comes out on Valentine's Day next year. February fourteenth, 984 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: Ted that for was. 985 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 3: This week's edition of Movie Line Tram. 986 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: Or bar and that's gonna do it for another episode 987 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: here of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta 988 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: give my listener shout out of the week. This week, 989 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm going over to X and the listener shout out 990 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: of the week is to Justin Words because I reposted 991 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: the interview I did with the Blue Beetle director because 992 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: the movie is now out to stream on on Max, 993 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: which I've gone into depth of how much I loved 994 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: this movie in the review, in the spoiler review, in 995 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: the interview with the director. So if you missed that interview, 996 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: go back just a few episodes to check that out. 997 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: But before you do that, go watch Blue Beetle on Max, 998 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: because I promise you you will have a good time. 999 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: And if you don't have a good time, well you're 1000 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: not out any extra money because you already have a 1001 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: Max subscription. But justin Rowe literally just watched it last 1002 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: night on Max. It was great, a lot of well 1003 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: timed humor and a good story. Was actually waiting to 1004 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: see it before listening to this podcast, so this is 1005 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,919 Speaker 1: right on time. So yeah, go watch the movie. Check 1006 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: out the reviews. There's also a full spoiler review where 1007 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: I talk about all the details of it. If you 1008 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: end up enjoying it, tell me what was your favorite part. 1009 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: And if you ended up. 1010 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 2: Hating it, tell me what part you hated the most. 1011 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: And until next time, go out and watch good movies 1012 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: and I will talk to you later