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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. I

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Speaker 1: am Chad Millman, Chief Content the officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Today is a very special episode for three reasons. We

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Speaker 1: have a special topic close to my heart. We have

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Speaker 1: a special guest, one of my favorite voices in Chicago sports,

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Speaker 1: one of the few people whose job I wish I had,

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Speaker 1: and hot off the presses. This is news. As I'm

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Speaker 1: reading this right now, Matt Mitchell informs me, this is

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Speaker 1: our five hundredth episode of The Favorites podcast. Look at us,

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Speaker 1: Look what we've done this week. On the show, we're

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Speaker 1: talking at twenty twenty four NFL first impressions post draft.

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Speaker 1: Continuing the conversation Tuesday, we played pass or play for

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Speaker 1: every team across the AFC. Today will do the same

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Speaker 1: for every team in the NFC with Danny Parkins, a

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Speaker 1: brilliant sports radio host at six seventy The Score in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know Danny, no joke. I say this

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Speaker 1: with all seriousness to me. He is in line with

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Speaker 1: Colin Coward Nick Wright amongst the best sports radio voices

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Speaker 1: in the country. He is also the author of a

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Speaker 1: new book, a hard book, not one of those easy books.

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Speaker 1: The author of a new book will discuss in just

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Speaker 1: a moment, of course. Joining me on our five hundredth

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Speaker 1: episode as always, my co host, my companion, Michel Padre,

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Speaker 1: my BFF professional better Sigmon Hunter. Hello, So I am

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Speaker 2: Wish I would have known I brought out the Little

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Speaker 2: Poppers let's start shooting things off Papa Bottle.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, but I had no idea until I saw it

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Speaker 1: in the script when Matt Mitchell put her in there. Dude,

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Speaker 1: five hundred episodes, that is no fucking joke.

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Speaker 2: Yes, especially the fact that this is usually live and

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Speaker 2: I have yet to get fired. So this is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: Run boys, also amazing a lot of people. A lot

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Speaker 1: of podcasts don't make it to five hundred episodes. A

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Speaker 1: lot of pop podcasts don't even get five hundred listeners,

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Speaker 1: So good for us. I'm glad we have Danny and

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Speaker 1: the Shutter. I'm going to bring them on in a second,

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Speaker 1: because last night, Simon, I was at the Knixt game

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Speaker 1: and look, MSG, I had Jylen Brunson under thirty seven

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Speaker 1: when the Knicks are truly good, MSG is electric. It

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But I was with a buddy, one of our Action

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Speaker 1: new book with co author Ben Kaplan, Pipeline to the

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Speaker 1: Pros How d three, small college, Nobody's rose to rule

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Danny, You could have taken the cowhard path.

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Speaker 1: You could have written a book, you know, rode your fame,

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Speaker 3: Because I'm an idiot?

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Speaker 4: Hi, Chad, hey bye, thank you for the lovely introduction. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this was not in the life plan. And on a

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Speaker 4: time spent ever because it took a long time, nearly

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Speaker 4: four years from creation of idea or ideation to publication.

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Speaker 4: But Ben Kaplan has been my best friend since third grade.

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Speaker 4: He played Division III basketball at Amherst. And he's like,

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Speaker 4: And he lives ten minutes away from me. We text

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Speaker 4: think I've literally never been on the phone with him

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Speaker 4: once in my life. It's like, oh God, something most

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Speaker 4: pretty serious happening. And he said, did you know that

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Speaker 4: twelve of the thirty teams either their head coach or

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Speaker 4: their top basketball decision maker, GM, a president of basketball operations,

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Speaker 4: played D three balls.

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Speaker 3: No, I had no idea.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I think there's a book here and I'm like, eh,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It seems kind of Niche like there'd

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Speaker 4: do you want to do this with me? And I

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Speaker 4: was like, well, you know what's going on in my

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Speaker 4: did probably about eight hundred hours of research. I've estimated

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Speaker 1: What's the answer. Why are d three former books. Read

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Speaker 1: Everyone should go buy the book so it can get

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Speaker 1: they can go even deeper on what the answer is.

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Speaker 1: By the way, because this is really just a Matt

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Speaker 1: Jeff Van Gundy. Jeff's first job was coaching Matt Mitchell's

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Speaker 1: high school, McQuaid Jesuit in Rochester, not coincidentally, probably because

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Speaker 3: Jeff Van Gundy.

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Speaker 4: The stories of Jeff Van Gundy in this book then

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Speaker 4: going from Yale to Menlo Junior College. No one in

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Speaker 4: great Van Gundy anecdotes in this book that people will like.

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Speaker 1: Danny. One of the reasons we have you on today

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Speaker 1: You ready, Let's do it, all, right, Simon Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: If there's a team that has had a worse offseason

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like Jerry Jones is in shock. I

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Speaker 2: All I do on here is take heat. When I

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Speaker 2: last year, and people were like, oh, it's a Homer

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Speaker 2: pick everything you're saying. My exact reason was he's going

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Speaker 2: not take any blame. People will blame the head coach,

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Speaker 2: they'll blame the offensive skill positions. Finally, finally, this year,

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Speaker 2: I feel like people are holding Dak to the fire,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you are the two seed at home against

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Speaker 2: and you got embarrassed. I mean that was an embarrassing game.

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Speaker 2: just fade the Cowboys. It's it's it's totally an in

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Speaker 2: moving on from dak This this to me feels like

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Speaker 2: Jerry has already said as much without having to say anything,

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Speaker 2: long winded answer of saying you can bet the under.

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Speaker 2: If you won, I'll bet the under. But like, why

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Speaker 2: would you bet anything for them for future as divisional? What?

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Speaker 2: Who is still out there that's betting this team's future

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Speaker 3: Danny, Yeah, the offseason is terrible.

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Speaker 4: David stuck in quicksand this isn't a gambling point, but

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Speaker 4: generally speaking, when you have star players, you want to

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Speaker 4: just feels like this is a transitional year now. They

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Speaker 4: everyone's like, oh, it's been a bad offseason, but they're

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Speaker 4: still good. So you could just bet against them in

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Speaker 4: But if you think that Washington's going to be better

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Speaker 1: I love that idea. Look the Cowboys, there was no

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Speaker 1: Those are good early leans. I like it. Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Jayden Daniels seven to one to win Rookie

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Speaker 1: love betting over six and a half on the Commanders, Simon.

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Speaker 1: This feels a little bit like we're being baited.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's also this is probably the happiest and most

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Speaker 2: to see this kid in camp because he has crazy

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Speaker 2: So I'm with Chad, like I don't even putting any

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and pass on making a play

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the only thing that you said there and I

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Speaker 3: But if you are a believer in.

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Speaker 4: Daniels, he's the next guy that can win Rookie of

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Speaker 4: I didn't see enough off schedule stuff from him in college.

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Speaker 4: He had Thomas, he had neighbors. Everything was clean for him.

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Speaker 4: In the pocket, there's a lot of yards after the catch.

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Speaker 4: But I'm with you on the offensive line questions and

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Speaker 1: The New York Giants six and a half wins. This

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet them at whatever. It was one hundred

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Speaker 2: we did our show in February. Just right, just a.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to trade Daniel Jones. And

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Speaker 2: haven't moved much since they've got Daniel Jones, because that's

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Speaker 2: you're going to go with a crazy long shot team,

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Speaker 2: how do you not bet this team like these are.

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Speaker 2: This is probably the best offensive weapons even that Barkley left.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that kid make big throws in a playoff

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Speaker 3: Like it.

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Speaker 2: There are things there to like. So it's a BILO team.

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Speaker 2: So I'll take the over six and a half. I'll

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Speaker 2: bet them ten to one. Do I have any faith

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Speaker 2: Weirder things have happened, especially where you know, the Eagles

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Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito was quitt side at MSG last night, got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'll be quick. I'm a pass on

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Speaker 4: I think it's for the next quarterback. I think they're

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Speaker 4: going to be pretty bad this year.

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Speaker 1: Now, i'd simon, now we got to talk about the

433
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Speaker 1: Eagles ten and a half wins. I know it sounds crazy,

434
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: feels low to me. I think that because it's juice

435
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: to the under. It feels to me like the market

436
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: is not acknowledging how much better or this team can be.

437
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: And that last year was a funky year, especially the

438
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Speaker 1: last six weeks. If you look at it in some ways,

439
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: you could convince yourself that the Eagles overachieved in those

440
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: first ten to twelve weeks of the year because they

441
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: didn't have a great coaching staff, and they really were

442
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: winning on sort of guile and championship pedigree, and then

443
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: the wheels just came off with injuries and bad decisions

444
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: and you saw sort of how it was put together

445
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: with sort of scotch tape. But I love their draft.

446
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: I like that they re signed AJ Brown. It probably

447
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: takes some of detention out of the room, shows a commitment.

448
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm always going to be a Jalen Hurts fan. I

449
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: like Saquon walk me back from over hyping and over

450
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: believing in this team's potential right now.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah, last year, we talked all of season they were

452
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: gonna be an easy fade. Teams that lose a super

453
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: Bowl coming in the next season, it always goes bad, right,

454
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: We talked them, unless you have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes,

455
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: you lose the super Bowl the next season, it's just

456
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: not gonna be right because you're chasing something instead of

457
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: focusing on the season. And you know, should have been

458
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 2: a red flag last year when we saw Jalen Hurts,

459
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 2: his background was all the confetti from the super Bowl,

460
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: where it's like this this guy people like that, where

461
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: it's like he's determined and this is what he's like

462
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: reminding himself of every day. It wore the team down.

463
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: Like midway through the season, the team was just worn down.

464
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: And I mean they went from what ten to one

465
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: went in their division to being a wildcard team, Like

466
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Speaker 2: they just totally collapsed. They're an easy bet to be

467
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: better this year, like they brought in a new OC,

468
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: a new DC, the talent they brought in, Like people

469
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: are saying it's a negative they've lost Jason Kelcey. Of course,

470
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: the guy is such a leader, it's a big deal.

471
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Speaker 2: But it's also a thirty five thirty four undersize center

472
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Speaker 2: that they're losing. So it's like, it's not great they

473
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: losing Jason Kelsey. But I don't think it's me as

474
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Speaker 2: dramatic as everyone's making out to be. It's like this,

475
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Speaker 2: this is ain't the guy we all thought he was

476
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: years ago. He's still a great player, but it was

477
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: like it's at some points he became a liability and

478
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: we go up against certain teams. So yeah, my view

479
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: of this Eagles team pretty simple. I think their Chad

480
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: alluded to it last last episode that he thinks the

481
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: AFC is the best teams. In my model, I have

482
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: the three best teams right now on football or the NFC,

483
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: and no surprise, forty Niners number one, number two, I

484
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: have the Eagles number three. I have Detroit line. So

485
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: right now I have them great above any other teams

486
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: in the AFC, which sounds crazy, but I'm talking complete teams.

487
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: This isn't just about the quarterbacks. It's the complete team.

488
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: So this Eagles team, I don't know how these rookies

489
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: are going to perform, and all these kids they took

490
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: from Georgia, they have a lot of questions on that side.

491
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 2: But offensively, this is the best offensive football in my opinion,

492
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Speaker 2: So pretty excited to see what they do now with

493
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Speaker 2: a good offensive mind coaching his team. Again, nothing against Sirianni,

494
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Speaker 2: I just I don't have faith of him as an

495
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. So yeah, Eagles team over ten and a

496
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 2: half them to win the East. I saw on our

497
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: notes have Saquon for rushing touchdowns. That's a really dumb bet.

498
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: Hurts is going to eat at that. Do not beton

499
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Speaker 2: most rushing touchdowns. I do not like that, especially a

500
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: guy like him. You can catch it as well, so

501
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: he's not always gonna be rushing it in there. Push

502
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: push people stay away from Saquon. Uh, but yeah, just

503
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: a team I'm all in on. But obviously questions to

504
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: me are still Siriani Like. I don't really have an

505
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: issue with her. It's my my main issue is Siriani.

506
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Speaker 4: I liked what they did in the draft. I thought,

507
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 4: you know, the pass defense was so bad last year

508
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 4: and just so disappointing, and Sleigh and brad Berry and

509
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: the upgrades that were so necessary. So I think, uh,

510
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: you know, getting Mitchell the corner from Toledo Cooper Degen

511
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 4: in the second round, who will you know, most likely

512
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 4: be a safety there?

513
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 3: I thought. I thought, giving premium resources.

514
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Speaker 4: To the biggest issue on the team was the obvious play.

515
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Speaker 4: And if I'm selling the Cowboys, uh, you've got to

516
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: buy the Eagles. So I agree, this isn't over ten

517
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: and a half for me.

518
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: I'm not.

519
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: I do not agree that they're the best team in football,

520
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 4: but I do think that they are a.

521
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers. I said they're number two. I said, okay, yeah,

522
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: but even that's that big of a homer.

523
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Speaker 3: I'm a home like that. I'll take the Chiefs.

524
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Speaker 1: Look, that's it. That's a fascinating conversation that we'd go

525
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Niners Eagles, Lions as the three best teams in football

526
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: when the AFC has been so dominant. But I also

527
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: like the idea because it brings more credence to the

528
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: Bengals bet to win the Super Bowl that we.

529
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: Made AFC's been dominant. What name the other Super Bowl

530
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: winners other than the Chiefs. You got to go back

531
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Speaker 2: to Brady. I get what you're saying, but it's like

532
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: it feels like they just had They've just had the

533
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Speaker 2: best quarterback in football for the last twenty years of

534
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: the AFC, and that's been their cheek code. It's like

535
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: they literally just went from Brady to Mahomes. I just

536
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: think the most complete teams are in the NFC.

537
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Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.

538
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: Chic Cargo, Cago, that Toddle in Town.

539
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: Chicago, Chicago, I will show you around.

540
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: I love it.

541
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Speaker 1: Speaking of best quarterbacks in the history of football, oh God,

542
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: the Bears have basically drafted this successor to Johnny Unitas,

543
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes In, Caleb Williams, Danny

544
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: the flora is yours.

545
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: I mean, where do I begin?

546
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: Other than no number one pick quarterback in the history

547
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: of football has ever walked into a better situation period.

548
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: That's a fact, not an opinion. So it's and then

549
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: you add in the level of prospect that he is

550
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: and you say, okay, well, it's like Trevor Lawrence is

551
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: a prospect, or, it's like Burrow is a prospect, or,

552
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: it's like Andrew luck is a prospect. Like whatever your flavor.

553
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: Those guys all went to one or two win teams.

554
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: This is a seven win team that added Keenan Allen.

555
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 4: So it's DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Roma Donze, top ten

556
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: tight ends, Cole Comet, all rookie right tackle Darnell Wright,

557
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: and a solid offensive line. I'm not going to make

558
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: it out like they're the best in the NFL, but

559
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: Braxton Jones is a replacement level left tackle. Tevin Jenkins

560
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: is a very good left guard. They upgraded at center

561
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: with Ryan Bates, and they got a nineteen million dollar

562
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 4: right guard in Nate Davis, and they got DeAndre Swift

563
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: out of the backfield. So they were a top five

564
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: defense in the NFL after they added Montese Sweat. Defensive

565
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: line questions still exist. If Montes Sweat got hurt, they

566
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 4: would have no pass rush. They basically had no pass rush.

567
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: Last year, they were thirty first in sack rate even

568
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: with him as a midseason addition. But they have a

569
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: legitimate shot at being a top ten defense and top

570
00:29:54,080 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 4: ten offense with a incredibly talented, generational quarter on.

571
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Speaker 3: A rookie deal. Who people are like, oh, it was

572
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: bad at USC.

573
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 4: Okay, he did win the Heisman Trophy and in two

574
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 4: years he had a forty six to one touchdown the

575
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: interception ratio in the red zone and didn't throw an

576
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: interception in his USC career on third or fourth down.

577
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: This is a big game hunter who lost eight games

578
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: at USC. His defense gave up at least thirty four

579
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Speaker 4: points in all eight of the losses average of forty

580
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: three points allowed. He is craving structure. So it was like, oh,

581
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: he fumbled too much? Did you watch any of those games?

582
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: The guy was trying to, you know, score seventy points

583
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: per possession because that's what his defense and offensive line necessitated.

584
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 4: So you come to a good defense, a higher level

585
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: of play, a top three or four wide receiver trio

586
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: in the NFL, a good offensive line, a good tight end,

587
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: and the Bears are screaming over this year on their

588
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: win total and if you want to sprinkle them at

589
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: better than three to one in the division, I.

590
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: Don't hate it because I already did it.

591
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: And Eddie questions, Simon, I do have questions, but Simon,

592
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I want you to say anything.

593
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't want you. I don't want you to harsh

594
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: my buzz here man.

595
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: As Chad knows, I'm the one that keeps it real

596
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: with them, and I tried to chill them out with

597
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: fields when they drafted justin Fields. Was my exact quote

598
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: to you chat. Probably don't even remember, but my exact

599
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: quote the chat was, the Bears don't draft quarterbacks that

600
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 2: are good, and Ohio State doesn't produce quarterbacks that are good.

601
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: And work out with CJ. Stroud.

602
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: There you go. So so this is way before CJ. Shroud,

603
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: so I'll give them the roses. Finally, Ohio State produced one.

604
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: Sadly for the Bears, they didn't take them. They didn't

605
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: take CJ. They moved out of that pick and it

606
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: worked out for you guys. You're gonna get williams Now

607
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: because the Panthers didn't take CJ. They took Bryce Young

608
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: and you're right, he is walking into the greatest I mean,

609
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: this is easily the best spot ever for number one pick.

610
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: It's just the fear is thisago. Man, you guys fucking

611
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: kill quarterbacks. That's why, like I am excited.

612
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: To be that's so dumb. That's it is.

613
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: It is dumb, but it's it's believe I've had a

614
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: four thousand yard passer in our history. So I just

615
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: look at Chicago and I'm the guy that I've been

616
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: trying to get Chad and other Bears fans on onto

617
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: this bandwagon off Caleb Williams. Like, dude, Justin Fields was fun.

618
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: His ceiling was never gonna be anything close to Williams,

619
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: and I feel like most Chicago has come around now

620
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, I don't know why we love just

621
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: to Field so much. You guys just had this loyalty

622
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: to him that was crazy. Where it's like Williams is

623
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: the savior. Williams is the guy that could change everything.

624
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: So I'll fade him this year just because it's it's

625
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: the right play. He's in a really tough division. Detroit's

626
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: really good. Minnesota is not terrible, like people are making

627
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: them not to be, even though they do have a

628
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback that's probably gonna start, and the Packers. I

629
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: want to bet on Thember progression too, So that's what's

630
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: tough your Chicago. It's like, I'm not gonna bet the

631
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: under early and a half or the over eight and

632
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: a half, but I'm gonna bet. To me, the fun

633
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: bet for Chicago is the over passing yards for Williams.

634
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: If Williams goes over, is three thy five hundred passing

635
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: yards or three thy six hundred To me, that's that's

636
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: this team excelling, maybe making the playoffs and maybe going

637
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: over the win total. That's a fun bet where it's

638
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 2: like I really like Williams, I just don't trust the

639
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: ownership and the coaching of the Bears yet. So I'm

640
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: a year away from being all in on the Bears.

641
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: Where it's like if Williams hits us over in the

642
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: passing yards and you know, the defense, like you said,

643
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: is a top ten defense this year, Like, dude, the Bears,

644
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: the Bears going forward are going to be a juggernaut.

645
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna wait and see. It's just I don't

646
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: think there's value here because this should be seven and

647
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: a half eight, But it's all the way up to

648
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: eight and a half. That's crazy for a rookie coming

649
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: in into a tough division getting that much respect.

650
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: They won seven games last year, Bears beat the Lions once,

651
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 4: should have beat in place. They upgraded at quarterback. So

652
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: I don't know that going from seven to nine with

653
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: an upgrade at quarterback and going from Darnell Mooney to

654
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 4: Keenan Allen at wide receiver two and for Tyler Scott

655
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: to run with Dunes at wide receiver three, is that

656
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: crazy to think that they might be two wins better

657
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 4: than they were last year. Full season of Montes sweat

658
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: as opposed to a half season of Montes sweat, and

659
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: as to like Chicago's where Quarterbacks Go to Die, that

660
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: whole thing. Do you guys know the quarterback who last

661
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: won a single regular season game that was drafted by

662
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 4: the Chiefs before Patrick Mahomes then any Testa Verdi Todd Blacklitch.

663
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: It was the Bengals were the Bungles until Joe Burrow

664
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: got there. Any change ownership, you can.

665
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: Had Andy Dollon years, you guys would have taken to

666
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: Andy Dollon. That was your Jay Cutler years.

667
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 4: So I understand that my point is like this idea

668
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 4: of history and futility and laughing sty it just takes

669
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: one dude to change.

670
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: It just takes one dude.

671
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: You haven't found out one dude in one hundred years though.

672
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: That's the joke. Yeah, oh, I know the joke.

673
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying. The new punchline is Caleb Williams.

674
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: Well, look, the sad thing is the only Bears quarterback

675
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 1: bobblehead I have on my desk, which is the only

676
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: Bears quarterback babblehead that's been produced, and I know because

677
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I got it from the Bears is sid Luck. So

678
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: we are due.

679
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: The J. Cutler one would have had a cigarette in

680
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: his mouth.

681
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: The J Culer one would have had a cigarette in

682
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: his mouth. He would have been standing at a urinal

683
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: yelling I don't care.

684
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

685
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of teams we hate, but not as much as

686
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: the Knicks, the Green Bay Packers. Are they due for aggression? Yeah,

687
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: simon take me.

688
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just an easy bet. This is such

689
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: a team that's due for aggression. They the second half

690
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 2: of the season was incredible, but I even league loss

691
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: over a little bit of it, Like they didn't even

692
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: play that well against the Bears in that final game

693
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: to either the Bears defense really dominated Jordan Love. The

694
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: fields had just produced a little they would have beat them.

695
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: There's just a bunch of little things where the Green

696
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: Bay they were good, Jordan Love got better. If you're

697
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: a Green Bay fan, this is the dream, like seeing

698
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: this guy second half of the year improved dramatically. The

699
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: book is going to be out, the tape is going

700
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: to be out. So that's the toughest part with this.

701
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: That's why football is so hard, where it's like they

702
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: literally will see what you do best and they have

703
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: a whole offseason how to adjust to it and to

704
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: challenge you with it next year. So don't again. I hate,

705
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: I hate pissing on these teams, but and I get

706
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: Green Bay be excited about your future. You guys are

707
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: one of the youngest teams in all football. But you're

708
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: an easy candidate to miss the playoffs. You were the

709
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: seventh seed or they got very lucky, and a lot

710
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 2: of things bounce your way. And I mean, it pains

711
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: me to say with these two Chicago guys on here,

712
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: but like I think you're pretty even like talent wise,

713
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: I feel like Chicago actually might have a slight edge

714
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: over green Bay talent wise. So if I like leaning

715
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: towards the under of green Bay, obviously I like the

716
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: under here for nine and a half at it's just

717
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: too high for a green Bay team, that it.

718
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Danny.

719
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 4: I hope you're right. I really hope you're right. But

720
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: I actually think that Jordan Love is good. They had

721
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: the youngest offense in the NFL last year, so a

722
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: full offseason of just development, cohesion, all of that. He

723
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 4: was getting better as the year went on. It's sickening

724
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 4: to me how much he looks like Aaron Rodgers, like

725
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: where he holds the ball down by his hip, and

726
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: like how he does the ball fakes. It's just nauseating

727
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: as a Bears fan going from Aaron Jones to Josh Jacobs. Obviously,

728
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: Jacobs kind of goes good year, bad year, good year,

729
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: bad year, but he is younger than Aaron Jones. They

730
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: were twenty seventh in defensive DVOA last year, and they

731
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: upgraded a defensive coordinator because I don't think that you

732
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 4: could do worse than Joe Barry. When they go now

733
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: to this guy from Boston College who was in the

734
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: NFL for seven years, Jeff Haffley, who wants to do

735
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: some single high safety stuff. And so what do they

736
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: do in free agency? They go out and get Xavier McKinney,

737
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: one of the best safeties in the NFL, so he's

738
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: gonna play more pressman, which obviously helps Jay r Alexander,

739
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: one of the best corners in the NFL. I have

740
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: no idea why Joe Berry was dropping him in his

741
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: own so I hate to say it, but they're a

742
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: well run organization. Lafleour is an awesome coach. It looks

743
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 4: like Jordan Love is good. I don't think he's a superstar,

744
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: but it's at least still in play. So I'm staying

745
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 4: away from the Green Bay Packers at this point because

746
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: I do believe in Jordan Love and I do think

747
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: they upgraded on defense.

748
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: Alright, I'm gonna kick us up into the second gear

749
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: here because we've still got a lot of teams. Again,

750
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: we gotta go faster, and I know Danny's got to

751
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: get out of here at exactly the hour. So Minnesota

752
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: six and a half wins plus at eight to fifty

753
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: to win the division, plus two to fifty to make

754
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I know what Simon said before about this

755
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: being a team that probably isn't as bad as people

756
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: think because they have a rookie quarterback coming in. He

757
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: has all the pieces there. I'm a pass on this

758
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: team completely right now.

759
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Yep, pass, I agree.

760
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: I do think Kevin O'Connell's a great coach, though so

761
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: in terms of quarterbacks are successful because of the situation

762
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: they go to, not necessarily just because of the quarterback.

763
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 4: I do think that JJ McCarthy got very, very lucky

764
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: going you.

765
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: Guys see my fear though, you guys now can admit

766
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: you probably the fourth best coach in your division. That's

767
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: that's a scary spot to be.

768
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: Who's the favorite for Coach of the year right now,

769
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: by the way, Yeah.

770
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: But that's only because you've got a quarterback who's set

771
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: up to be the greatest quarterback in the history of

772
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: the NFL.

773
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: Matt Maggie won Coach of the Year because Vic fam

774
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: defense got thirty six takeaways. Okay, exactly, I'm aware of

775
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: how it works, but he is a He's a co

776
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: favorite with Jim Harbaugh to be the coach of the

777
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: Year in the NFL.

778
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: That only means the disappointment can be greater. Absolutely, Detroit

779
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Simon's third best team overall in the NFL ten and

780
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: a half wins Juice to the Under. I worry about

781
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: this team. I worry that this is a team that

782
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: was riding so high last year and had so many

783
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: things go right for them. And I love Dan Campbell.

784
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: We all believe Dan Campbell, and this league is better

785
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: for the media when Dan Campbell is in it. I

786
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: worry about this team hitting a wall.

787
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: Simon, Yeah, don't even think of people. They're bringing back

788
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: their genius oc they bringing back to their quarterback. Their

789
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: rookies are going to be better than they were last year.

790
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean, they have arguably a top three tight end.

791
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: I'm on, Saint Brown just resigned. It's all of there.

792
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: So they attacked their defense. The defense is their weakness.

793
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: They blew that game against the forty nine ers because

794
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: their defense is going to get any stops in that

795
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: second half. They're going after it. I'm with Chad though,

796
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: like there's still questions about this Lion's team, but like, overall,

797
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: this team is really good. They were, I mean a

798
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: couple couple of plays away from absolutely snacking and dominating

799
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: that four nine ers team in San Francisco in the playoffs, like,

800
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: this is a really good team and a very veteran

801
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: team at the key positions. They got veteran guys defensive line,

802
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: offensive line, and at quarterback skill positions, a bunch of

803
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: young kids. So yeah, really quick, I would love to

804
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: dive in more. Will this this upcoming off season more

805
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: about Detroit just right now. If you're gonna make a bet,

806
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: I'll take the over ten and a half.

807
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 4: My biggest bet, my biggest preseason bet last year was

808
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: the Lions to win the North at minus one forty.

809
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 4: I just thought that was the lock of all locks.

810
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 4: And people kind of use the logic of oh, it's Detroit,

811
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: kind of like you're saying bears, they'll mess it up.

812
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: Like whenever I hear that logic, I'm like, eh, I'm

813
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: going away.

814
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: I'm fit.

815
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: And so they they're really really good and it's crazy

816
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: that Ben Johnson keeps going back there.

817
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: Crazy.

818
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: It's just it's a it's a crazy thing. And so

819
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: they are in a really, really, really good spot. But

820
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 4: they're also not a secret anymore. So it's hard to

821
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: win eleven plus games. So I will be staying away

822
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 4: and just take my profits from last year believing in them.

823
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 4: And maybe bet them in some game spots. But I

824
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: don't have any futures on the lines anymore because they're

825
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: just They're not a secret. Everybody agrees they're a top

826
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: six team in the NFL.

827
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: Simon, can you name the fastest growing ticketing app in

828
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: the United States?

829
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: Game Time?

830
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: That's right, It's game Time. I love game Time for

831
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: two reasons. First, they still sponsor this show. Second, I

832
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: use game Time all the time. They have amazing last

833
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,759
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834
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,680
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835
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: the Action Network studios here in Manhattan. Look at this.

836
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: I can get to the Yankees tonight for less than

837
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: fifteen bucks. Beautiful night here in New York. No matter

838
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: where you live, download the game Time app. Get out

839
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: have some fun this week. You deserve it. You can

840
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: redeem code favorites for twenty dollars off your first purchase.

841
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: Terms apply again. Just download the game Time app and

842
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: use code favorites for twenty dollars off your purchase. Last

843
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Speaker 1: minute tickets lows price is guaranteed. All right. Now we

844
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: go into the most irrelevant division in the NFC, the

845
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: NFC South, the only division where fans only care about

846
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: the team if they live in that particular city, and

847
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: no one else really knows if they exist. The only

848
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: one that actually made any noise this draft, the Atlanta Falcons,

849
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: drafted Michael Pennix Junior in the first round, top ten,

850
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: after they already had Kirk Cousins. Everyone's puzzled. They thought

851
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: this team had a lock in the division if they

852
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: made one right move. Danny, I'll start with you. Give

853
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: me your take on Atlanta right now. Nine and a

854
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: half wins is the is the season win total? Minus

855
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: one and twenty five to win the division?

856
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Straight up, pimpy. If you want me, you can find

857
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: me getting them.

858
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: This is last year's Detroit Lions.

859
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: Wow, minus one twenty five to win that division is

860
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: a lock. Oh that's like, Oh, there's no such thing

861
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: as a lock. That is a great bet. I hated

862
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 4: what they did with the eighth overall pick in the draft.

863
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: I loathed it. It was intergalactically stupid. But everything else

864
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: that they did this offseason was really good. They upgraded

865
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: significantly at quarterback, they upgraded significantly at coach, they upgraded

866
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 4: significantly at offensive coordinator slash play caller, and they upgraded

867
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 4: significantly at wide receiver two and three.

868
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: That feels pretty good. That feels pretty good.

869
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 4: So I and they were the eleventh ranked defense in

870
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: the NFL last year, so I think that they will

871
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 4: win that division.

872
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: I think they will win double digit games.

873
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 4: And now they actually have Kirk Cousins insurance in Michael

874
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 4: Pennocks junior. So I am for in terms of a

875
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: preseason division bet they are this year's Detroit Lions for me.

876
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: Strong bold statement from Danny Parkins.

877
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: That's what I do. I know.

878
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly haven't done much of the LANDA if

879
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: you're looking for a fun long shot bet I made.

880
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: I made Pennix eighty to one when Rookie of the

881
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: Year just the simple fact, Hey, if Kirk comes back

882
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: and he's not right, maybe they take their time with him.

883
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: I just don't know what the timeline is for him.

884
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: And he's looked you know, he's looked at right since

885
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: I've seen little clips of him. But eighty to one

886
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: for Penix, it feels like that's way too large, where

887
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, may might not play the whole

888
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: season either, like he might sit behind percent until you know,

889
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: week fifteen and he's like ten to one. It's just

890
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: pegs to me, should be closer to forty to one,

891
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: thirty to one. So yeah, Atlanta, I'll pass for now.

892
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not in love with him as much

893
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: as Danny is here, but I get where he's coming

894
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: from that they have all the pieces there. The only

895
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: thing I'm missing was the quarterback.

896
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. Can't stand them, don't like them, feel irrelevant,

897
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: can't tell you a single move they've made that is

898
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: worth talking about. Seven and a half wins, it's juiced

899
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: to the over. They had a chance to close the

900
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: door on this division last year and just did not

901
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: make any moves at all. Plus three fifty to win

902
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: the South Danny fire away.

903
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: Pass, It's yeah.

904
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: There's first round pick filled the biggest need on the

905
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 4: team at right tackle.

906
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: So I liked the logic.

907
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: I'm always like a best draft, best player available at

908
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: a position of need. Don't just say best player available, No,

909
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: you got to do it at a position of need.

910
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: So I thought that that was sensible. I still think

911
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: Kamara is spectacular when healthy, but I'm a pass on

912
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: the Saints this year.

913
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: Simon, I'll pass her now, but there's like a ninety

914
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: five chance. I bet these guys win this division in August.

915
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 2: It's just I love I love all.

916
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: You are a sucker. You are a sucker. And you

917
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: did the same thing last year.

918
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: This this division, this thou it is where it's like

919
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: my mistake was everyone kept saying you gotta bet the bucks,

920
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: the bucks of the team for this division. I was

921
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: just like, they sucked, there's no chance. It's the same

922
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: conversation now we're having about the Saints. They sucked, there's

923
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: no chance. So this division is stupid. Chad set it

924
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: off the top. This is this stupid division. Stupid things happen.

925
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: We spent three months arguing Atlanta and the Saints and

926
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: both were totally irrelevant and ended up being Tampa. So yeah,

927
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: I'll pass for now, but probably end up.

928
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: On the Saints.

929
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen terrible coach. You should not bet on Carolina

930
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: four and a half wins, juiced to the over, Give

931
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: me the under, give me the under. I'll find an

932
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: alt line of three and a half. I might take

933
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: that too, Like no belief in this team whatsoever?

934
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: Wow, there we go.

935
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm not interested in the over unders on four

936
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 4: and a half is scary.

937
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

938
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 4: I liked that they traded back into the first round

939
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: to take Lagett like to you know, they're trying to

940
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 4: give Bryce Young some help, but this is too little,

941
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: too late.

942
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: I think for him. He's what an awful off.

943
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 4: Everything I said about the situation, Kayleb Williams is walking into.

944
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: It's the exact opposite for poor little Bryce Young.

945
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Yeah, yeah, big sucks. We'll spend more in the

946
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: summer on this team, but I'll pass like there's nothing

947
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: to talk about.

948
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 1: Onto the NFC West. The Rams eight and a half

949
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: wins Juice to the Over. We don't know the impact

950
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: of Aaron Donald retiring, but at times he was the

951
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: thing that kept that defense together when they had nothing else.

952
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: So I'm a little wary of this team, even though

953
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: I love everything about their offense. Simon, I'll start with you.

954
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: I know you're always a backer of the Rams, or

955
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: at least like what they tend to do. I know

956
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: you like Stafford. You have any thoughts on this team?

957
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Any of the Markets eight and a half wins plus

958
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: three fifty Stafford twenty five to one win. MVP Jared

959
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: Verse first round pick defensive end thoughts.

960
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't didn't take them on division. Didn't think

961
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: the value was there. Well, last year we were getting

962
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: ten to one at this point on them for the division.

963
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: Now they're three to one, four to one. It's just

964
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: the value is not there for how good the forty

965
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: nine ers aren't. Just how more of a complete team there?

966
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: And see I just said they lost the best defender

967
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: in football, So yeah, I'll take their over wins. We

968
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: won't spend again too much time on it, but yeah,

969
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: it's a team that I had a ton of high

970
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: hopes that end of the season. You can't fight the

971
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: fact they're losing. Aaron Donald's a huge deal, especially in

972
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: that division where they're going up against that forty nine

973
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: ers team, where it's like he's the guy in the

974
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: middle that people won't believe it, but he actually did

975
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: plug up a lot of holes. Now that's gone. I mean,

976
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: they do have good defensive tackles on the RAMS team,

977
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: but obviously nothing compares to him. So Chad, Chad's being

978
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: a little weary of this team, is Warranton.

979
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wary. That's a wise guy talking right there. Dang,

980
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: are you a wise guy?

981
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: I really like the Rams. I don't hate.

982
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 4: I don't hate Stafford at twenty five to one actual

983
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 4: for MVP. I think he is still just a special player.

984
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 4: And with Nikua and Kupp and McVeigh, I loved. I

985
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: loved their whole offseason. Jonah Jackson one of the best guards.

986
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 3: Get him. Kevin Dotson re signed him. He played very

987
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 3: well for them.

988
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: Didn't even let him hit the window where he can

989
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 4: negotiate with anyone else. So like protect Stafford. Okay, Aaron

990
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: Donald's gone draft Jared Verse to pair with Byron Young.

991
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: Draft the kid Brayden Fisk who had six sacks each

992
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 4: of the last two years as an interior defensive lineman,

993
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: who was versus teammate in college. Like Donald, big need

994
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: attack it with high draft picks, protect Stafford, attack it

995
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: with guards. I even like the Jimmy g signing. Like, Okay,

996
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: Stafford gets hurt for a game or two, bring in

997
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 4: someone who can can keep you afloat Tradavius White at

998
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: corner on a one year deal. I liked, like just

999
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: I loved their approach to the offseason. So I'll be

1000
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 4: on there over for the win total, and then my

1001
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: law out for them will probably be the Stafford MVP

1002
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: play or maybe passing yards leader play for Stafford. I'm

1003
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 4: I'm very bullish on the Rams this year.

1004
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you on Stafford, and Simon loves Stafford.

1005
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: He feel the same way that you do about sort

1006
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: of how good this guy is. I like that play

1007
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: at twenty five to one. I think that's that's a

1008
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: smart one. I want to end with with San Francisco

1009
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: because they've got sort of very high ratings in terms

1010
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: of being one of the best teams in the NFL.

1011
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: Seattle new coach, new offensive coordinator, a lot of new

1012
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: planning being done there. Seven and a half wins juiced

1013
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: to the over. It's a pass for me. Too many

1014
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: questions about how they're going to transition in a division

1015
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: where I think they're probably the third best team. I pass.

1016
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a team that I'm I'm literally just on

1017
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: the edge of moving the Cardinals above them, like that's

1018
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: they're just they just keep slowly dropping down my board

1019
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: where it's like this this team there is. There are

1020
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: things to like there with Seattle, but it all comes

1021
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: back to Gino and I do think it was just

1022
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: a one year, one year chat and he got paid

1023
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: off of it and Yeah, the guy might have a

1024
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: seventy percent complete percentage on those really tough third downs.

1025
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: You just don't have faith in him to make a

1026
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: play that you know you need guys to make an

1027
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: NFL that's so many, so many of these games come

1028
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: down to third down plays in the fourth quarter. And

1029
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: he just consistency last year was not him. He just

1030
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: was not consistent last year. So seven and a half.

1031
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: I'll take the under here. You know, I'm not gonna

1032
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 2: not gonna bet them yet to have the worst record

1033
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: in football. But it's a sneaky play, like this is

1034
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: the team that there is a little bit of that

1035
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: where it's like they got rid of Pete who kind

1036
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: of held it all together for all these years, and

1037
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: now they're bringing a new guy who could be great,

1038
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: but this also could be an absolute train wreck. So

1039
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: this is a sneaky team for being the worst team

1040
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 2: of football.

1041
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 4: Danny, Yeah, I'm a pass on Seattle and i I'm

1042
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: a I'm an overplayer on the Cardinals. Just to kind

1043
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 4: of combine those two in your points. The Cardinals were

1044
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 4: the best running team in the NFL when Kyler was healthy,

1045
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: So I mean, the if Kyler's healthy thing is obviously

1046
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 4: a huge delta. We understand that, but Marvin Harrison Junior

1047
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 4: will be an impact rookie. They had eleven draft picks,

1048
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 4: so they're gonna They're gonna be good there and when healthy.

1049
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 4: Their offense was really good second year in the system. Also,

1050
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: I think I think helps because there was clearly a

1051
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 4: big adjustment there with the system change on offense last year.

1052
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: So I'll sell Seattle and buy Arizona.

1053
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: I like that you're combining them because Simon just did

1054
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: that and talked about them moving up a little bit.

1055
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: And when he said that, I looked at Arizona's win

1056
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: total six and a half wins. This is a team

1057
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: that competed and like everyone talked about last year, Shane

1058
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Steiken being the key with Eagles had done the year

1059
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: before and how good he was with the Colts, Gannon

1060
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: had this team plan hard and playing close and winning

1061
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: games they shouldn't have won. Simon, do you have strong

1062
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: thoughts on any Arizona futures right now?

1063
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: No, I'll pass for now, but they're definitely a team

1064
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: that's I talked to book makers they are probably number

1065
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: one or number two. Most bet public side were over

1066
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: like the public just loves them for what you just

1067
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: talked about. They have memories of you know, they won

1068
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: games against the Cowboys without you know, with their third

1069
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: stringer in there, and how they came back and he

1070
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: played all right. Now, they drafted him a top up

1071
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: on the outside chat. So yeah, just really quick, I

1072
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: would say, totally get it. If you want to bet

1073
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: they're over for me, I'm going to pass for now

1074
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 2: and just look more into it.

1075
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: All right. Last team San Francisco forty nine ers. Simon

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Speaker 1: just revealed there the top rated team in his team

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Speaker 1: rankings in the NFL, just ahead of the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: the Lions. Juice to the under at eleven and a

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Speaker 1: half wins brought Party fourteen to one to win MVP. Look,

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Speaker 1: last year we were looking at Brock Party to win

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Speaker 1: MVP at that number. When it got to about week ten,

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Speaker 1: I think, and we like the number. Then this team

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Speaker 1: is tailor made for him to be a really good

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Speaker 1: regular season quarterback and for him to put up guardy

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Speaker 1: numbers and for them to win a lot of games. Danny,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers could be the Bear's biggest

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Speaker 1: obstacle to winning it all.

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Speaker 4: What a great NFC Championship game matchup. How do you

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Speaker 4: think Niners fans will feel about being a nine and

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Speaker 4: a half point underdog in that game? The Niners are

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Speaker 4: obviously an awesome team with an awesome coach, and I'm

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Speaker 4: like the last person who's believing that the clock is

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Speaker 4: going to strike midnight on brock Purty because the value

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Speaker 4: of what he can do is incredible and for one

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Speaker 4: million dollars, it's the best value in the NFL. And

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Speaker 4: I get why it's all successful, but I'm just like, Eh,

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Speaker 4: at some point, the wheels are going to come off.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make any damn sense.

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Speaker 4: I just wouldn't invest in a team that has this

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Speaker 4: much popularity behind it, like they're minus two hundred to

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Speaker 4: win the division. I just won ninety one, ninety five whatever,

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Speaker 4: like wherever you're shopping, Like that's crazy. When we were

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Speaker 4: talking about Stafford and the value and the talent of

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Speaker 4: the other teams in the division, So I just I

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Speaker 4: don't think they're that good. They're very, very good, and

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Speaker 4: they consistently proved me wrong. I don't know that I've

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Speaker 4: lost more money on any other team in the NFL

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Speaker 4: the last two years than I have the San Francisco

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Speaker 4: forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Ers signing, you get the last word in the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. You're number one team in the

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Speaker 1: NFL right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty boring. I have done one team in football,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, taking their role obviously, I mean they're the

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00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: most complete team in all football, and they were a

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Speaker 2: couple couple better coaching decisions away from beating Mahomes in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl last year. It's just it all comes

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Speaker 2: down to Kyle the end of the day. He is

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Speaker 2: the one where you know, people want to get pretty

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Speaker 2: a lot of shit are not checking out of the

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Speaker 2: pass rush on different third downs. That's not really up

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Speaker 2: to Party. Like he's playing in a system, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: really have that kind of leverage yet as a that

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Speaker 2: was his first year as a starter. People like, I

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Speaker 2: think just people put too much on his plate. So

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Speaker 2: as some of that wanted to fade the four Niners

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Speaker 2: heavily last year because Party was coming off major elbow

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Speaker 2: surgery and it was just like people are putting a

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Speaker 2: lot of faith into a kid who's coming off big

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Speaker 2: surgery head into a season without any offseason work. Didn't

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Speaker 2: miss a beat. I think they dominated Pittsburgh week one

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Speaker 2: and and they were off and running. So yeah, love

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Speaker 2: this four Niners team. Only thing that's topping them is

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Speaker 2: just injury. They're they're just so well coached. They've just

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Speaker 2: drafted so well Lynch as well. So just an incredible team.

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Speaker 2: That's why I have them at number one.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me recap our passer play here. Dallas

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Speaker 1: under ten and a half, Danny likes plus one ninety five,

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Speaker 1: missed the plaffs, which I like a lot. Giants over

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Speaker 1: six and a half, maybe a little taste of ten

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Speaker 1: to one to win the Division, Eagles over ten and

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Speaker 1: a half, and to win the NFC East Chicago, what

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: are we going to do over eight and a half? Wins,

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, win it all, be the greatest

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Speaker 1: team in the history of football.

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, they're seventeen and oh price is pretty juicy.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: Take that to Caleb Williams over thirty five hundred passing it.

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Speaker 1: That's a really good one. Danny parkins the only lock

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Speaker 1: a half wins Stafford twenty five to one win. MVP

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