WEBVTT - Meet the Parents 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:06.920 Hey, folks, I could not decide what to say to 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.200 start this episode of Amy and TJ because I was 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:14.000 so concerned about making a good impression on our in 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.040 studio guest today and with that, welcome to Amy and TJ. Really, 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.520 I got nothing. I got nothing. That's how I'm starting. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.200 I got nothing. That was Wow. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:23.400 Are you nervous? 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.639 I am nervous. I'm sitting here, my heart is pumping. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.840 I always get a little nervous before we start any 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.800 broadcast of any kind my whole career. I used to 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:32.479 actually put my hand out and make sure I was 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.320 shaking a little bit, make sure I was a little nervous. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.880 Don't every want to get too comfortable and too cool 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.000 and think you got it. I am nervous today. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.920 Do you want to tell I? Well? I would only. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:46.480 Compare it to the first podcast we did that aired 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.840 on December fifth. I would argue, this is is as 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.600 nervous as I've been because of our guests. Yes, and 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:58.080 I have some options, folks about what we start every podcast. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.080 You say you start right? You always want me to start? 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:01.400 Yes? 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:02.080 And why is that? 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:03.680 Because you're a better starter than me? 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:05.640 And but how so, how do you what do I 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.400 do at the beginning, you find it well. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.440 You usually have like a card up your sleeve, and 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.160 so you have something funny or something provocative or something 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.000 just to kind of shake me up a little bit, 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:16.200 to make it interesting. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.440 Okay, I had some things. Here's my problem. I'm serious. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.319 I had some options. I didn't like any of them 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.240 enough because I was trying to make it perfect, because 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.200 you go too far. As some of the best advice 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.280 I ever got was don't let perfect get in the 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.080 way of good. And today I let perfect get in 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:34.280 the way of it, and I've got nothing. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.400 Wait, but you texted me earlier this morning saying I 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.399 got it because you're always trying to figure out how 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.800 you're starting, and so so let me text me. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:42.400 I got it. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:43.960 Okay, So this is what I'm going to tell you. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.679 This is why I got it, because instead of just 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:50.400 starting with something, I'm going to give you the four options. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.200 I had four options for how to start this podcast, 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:59.160 in which our guests are your parents and folks of you. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.080 You can hear the sound of my voice and I 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.760 don't know if it's trembling or not, but sitting about 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:10.440 eight inches to my right is Amy Robot's mother, in 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.239 this studio, a woman that I have spent a lot 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.640 of time with over the years and have had a 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.480 good time with stated at a home all this, but 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.800 today I'm nervous. Why would that make sense? 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:21.960 Because you want to impress her. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.080 Okay, there it is, and that's good and let's go. Okay, 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.560 here am I and you all helped me. So this 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.560 was my option one. Ro So I was going to 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.959 start the podcast. It was hello, folks, making a good 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.240 impression on your partner's parents. I'm about to teach a 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:43.760 master class. Oh okay, okay, So I'm glad I didn't 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:48.560 go with that one. The other Okay, hello folks, they 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:53.079 deserve admiration for being married fifty two years. They deserve 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.480 sainthood for raising Amy Robot. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.280 Whoa shot across the bow? 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.800 Okay, okay, I'm glad I didn't go with those Twodi Yeah, okay, 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.920 number three this was a little heavier. Hey, folks, we 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.919 worried about what the world thought about us, but all 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.840 we really wanted was the acceptance of the two people 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.079 in the studio with us. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:13.280 That's nice, that's nice. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.840 Maybe that's the one I see. But nobody reacted emotionally 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.640 in heavenly they say, yeah, it didn't worry. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.400 Maybe it felt like you were pandering or something. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.640 Okay, you know what, good point? Glad I didn't go 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.680 This is the last one. Hey, folks, I haven't asked 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.560 for permission or the blessing to marry Amy Roback. But 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.600 the two people i'd need to ask are our guests today. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.360 Wow. Yea yeah, that's one. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:37.960 And this is why I didn't use any of those. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.040 Why don't we ask Why don't we ask the guests 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.640 next to you what they thought or which one they 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:46.040 would pay? 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:50.040 Yes, folks, we have Mama Roback and Papa Roback in 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:57.560 studio with us. Hey, gang, welcome. Mom and Dad are 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:58.240 in the building. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.600 None and Pop has their affections called in our house. 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.080 How are you doing today? Doing great? Are you all 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:09.240 nervous if it's just talking about you? No, No, we 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.720 want to talk about you. No, that's what we don't want. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.120 Let me ask, should we be nervous? 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:14.600 No? 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.480 I don't think I told you all before you started 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.280 that there's not a question we're going to ask that 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.400 you don't know the answers, I assure you. But I 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.120 do want to say, Congress isn't the anniversary coming up 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.920 in a couple of weeks, right, fifty two years? Fifty? 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:26.440 Is that right? 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.640 Right? It'll be fifty two years the life. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.400 First, anybody listening is in a relationship. You hear somebody's 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.920 been together for fifty years, you always want to ask, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.040 what is the secret? How do you do they want 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.760 us have something to help their relationship last that long? 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:39.240 What do you got? 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.880 I already I always answer this question first, So I'm 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.719 gonna let you do it today. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.479 Oh, you're gonna let me answer? That's that's turning the tables, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:55.760 all right? There is no secret. How's that? It's making 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.680 a decision every day that you are in love with 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.720 someone and you were in love with them for you've 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.240 been We've been in love for a long time, and 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.280 every day it's a decision. You know, I'm going to 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.800 love this person and you know we are going to 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.719 continue going through life together. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.640 That sounds kind of ominous that you have to redecide 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:17.400 every morning. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:19.599 It's positive affirmation. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.640 Okay, I will do it again one more day, one 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:25.320 day more. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.440 Oh you disagree, You don't think of it the same way. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.440 No, I don't know. Okay, how do you think I 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.839 have massive attraction to this man always have. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.680 What is that he's good? 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.920 I say, the attraction motivates you to continue. Yes, absolutely, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.800 When he turns like eighty five, it's going to be 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.600 a little tough, but I'll be eighty five too. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.040 So okay, now this is something she explained. This your 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.160 whole family. People who are familiar with robots see her 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.720 and great shape, and she's fifty one, but she has 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:04.680 great genes. You all are freaking amazing. And like you said, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.240 you say, when he's eighty five, I mean, I've bet 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.520 what he's eighty five, he's gonna look pretty damn good. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:10.760 On the lawn. Right. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.080 It's still at eighty five, So how much of that 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.640 I mean for you all, it's just jeans genetics, your 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.200 family that helps people maybe understand why robot has the genes. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.440 Yet I agree. Both my parents lived until their nineties. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.560 My dad was ninety eight, Yeah. 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.000 My mom is ninety one. I had grandparents grandfather that 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.560 was ninety eight and a grandmother ninety six, so a 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.640 lot of people lived into their nineties. So yeah, I 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:39.120 think we have good genes for a long lung jitivity, longevity, well, longevity. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.000 I look at that as TG does that scare you 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.640 because I'm not dying anytime soon. You're stuck with me 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:45.880 for a long long time. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.119 That's a good thing. And we talk about this something 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.920 I hate to turn it on a but your health 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.200 right when you talk about your breast cancer survivor and 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:55.960 to think that every six months, every year, you have 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.240 to get a report that says whether or not you 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.479 got another six months another year, that is and it 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.839 makes you live a certain way. But I appreciate the 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.760 health that you're in. Okay, youre as healthy as your a. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:06.800 Youre's active as your This is great, all right, it's 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.680 good to see them. I see your family. You got 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:09.279 good jeens. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.480 Yep, it's true. I mean, and my whole life. Everyone 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.800 my parents would walk into the newsroom when I was 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:20.520 twenty two and they were forty one, right because they're 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.560 nineteen years old within me and they were nineteen when 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:23.920 they had me. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.560 But every my whole. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.480 Life, everyone their jaw drops when they see my parents 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.160 because a they are young, but they also look really 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.440 young and good for their age. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:34.720 So it's like a combo. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.200 But everyone Dad, how many people thought we were married 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.600 when we would like go somewhere together. It was so embarrassing. 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.760 We had the last same last name. We would go 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.360 to a hotel together a couple of times and we'd say, 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.600 can we get the two you know, the two twin beds, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:47.480 and they would look at us. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.280 My dad's like, this is my daughter, and nobody would believe. Oh, 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.120 please please stop saying that. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.360 And I've heard that a lot. But until I had 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.720 the picture of you, it might have been your wedding day, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.840 but you will. It is unbelievable. You should post that picture. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.320 I will to see because on the wedding when I 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.640 was twenty three years old, Dad, you were forty two. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.040 Everyone do you remember when we were getting ready, they 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.000 all thought you were the groom. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.120 They all thought you were the groom and that was 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:14.679 so weird. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.400 But it was even more weird for me. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.280 Was a compliment, though, Has it always been a compliment 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:23.480 that you've gotten? 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:23.720 Is that? 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.000 Wow, you're only I. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.960 Don't know, you know. I think I think when you're 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:33.600 that age, you know, it's not necessarily a compliment because 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.080 you're trying to be taken serious. And I think sometimes 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.240 people look at you as being young and maybe not 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:47.199 as experienced as you are, So it wasn't always an advantage. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:55.600 But for your marriage, for your wife absolutely absolutely? What 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.520 was did you all you have a Eric as how 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:00.720 what's about your brother? 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.920 He's twenty months younger than me? So he is gush? 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.400 Is he about to turn fifty this year? 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:05.800 Yes? 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.960 Okay, yes, he's turning fifty in October forty nine? Yeah. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.760 Tell were there easy and obvious distinctions when you had 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.720 these You had these two kids, did you see them? 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.480 They were going to be going two different directions? Could 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.680 you tell? From very early on they were just different? 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:22.760 Absolutely? 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:23.120 Really? 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.320 I mean Amy was go, go, go, go go, never 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.079 stop banging on the door, like I want out of 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.679 this cage that I'm in. And Eric was more you know, 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.640 he'd have my skirt if we went to the shopping 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.000 because he was like, look at all these people. Amy. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.559 Here's what Amy would do. Walk into a store. Amy 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.640 had learned a lesson that if you make a beeline 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.720 for the customer service and you say I'm lost, they 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.080 give you like, you know, candy. So I would even say, 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:54.959 watch her because she's going to go running up there, 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.079 and before when you bam, you're up there the lollipop 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.320 smiling at us. And then you'd hear the announcement. Yes, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.480 there's a loss of good What age was this? Oh, 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:06.120 you were like. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.080 Three, that's when we first moved to Blacksburg that you 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.640 started doing it. Yeah, you would just take off. You 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.400 were probably two and a half three years old and boom, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:19.800 you were right to the customer service counter asking, uh 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.480 for someone to call your parents because you were lost, 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.480 and they'd give you a lollipop and you were happy. 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.240 That is as a that's a sociopath. I mean, what 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.679 is what? How are you at two and three? You 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.520 possess enough to manipulate a system that way at two 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:38.240 or three. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:43.000 I was motivated by sugar jeez and attention, because I'm 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.480 sure that they all were like, oh, poor little girl, 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:46.680 where's your mommy and daddy. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.760 I'm guessing I don't know. I have no memory of this, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:49.560 So what would you it? 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:50.200 Was it attention? 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.520 I would say number two first was the lollipop. Number 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.640 two was she was just had a little bit of 0:10:55.679 --> 0:11:01.120 a flair for the dramatic. So she she did like 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.120 to kind of be in the spot like, oh wow, 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.160 I never did he was pulled. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.200 We're peeling this thing back layer. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.520 Oh no, we should get aimed to do some of 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:16.040 her cute, little cute little songs and dances that we 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.960 taught you. Yeah, no, thank you. I'm sure there's a 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.040 video somewhere. The girls are trying to pull them up 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.400 and show them to TJ. The other day. I was like, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.560 please stop, please stop pageant stuff. Yes, they were trying to. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.320 She is online, yes, I mean, I'm not going to 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:29.800 post a link, please don't. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:34.880 But it is googleable, and my daughters, I think, don't 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.920 let I don't even think they let two weeks go 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.680 by without all of a sudden, they'll just play it 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:39.280 and they'll. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.360 Start laughing because they'll know that I get said. I'm like, 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.080 please turn that on now. Yes, even things you did. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.920 Before the internet now can live forever online. And I 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.040 found this out the hard way. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.400 But who is she more like between you two? 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:57.080 Would you say, Oh, that's a good question. There's definitely 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.560 she's definitely a combination of the two of us. I mean, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:06.600 her musical talent and her artistic talent. Her creative talent 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.360 comes from her mother, not from me, that's for sure. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:14.319 I think maybe her wunderlust attitude comes from me. I mean, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.560 I traveled a lot for work over the years, and 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.080 I think Amy you know has kind of had that 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.800 same sense of adventure by going out, but you know, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.320 from but from a creative side. It's totally on her 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:28.040 mom's side. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:29.040 Is that right? 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.280 Yes? I agree, yeah, dad. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.120 When Dad traveled around the world always when I was 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:35.920 growing up. So I the one thing, you know, some 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.040 people have boxes of memorabilia. I have a shoebox, and 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.800 my shoebox memorabilia of my childhood consists of my gymnastics 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.120 medals and the stickers and money that my dad would 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.160 come back from around the world. So we have like 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.080 currency from all the different countries he would go to, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.080 and I put them in baggies and I labeled them, 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.720 and I have all the like little stickers you could 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.800 get at the airport, you know that that you come 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.559 back and so that's my memorabilia. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:01.760 Why are you looking like that? 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.480 No, I cannot believe how much I'm learning about you. 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.480 And No, I know a lot about you, and I'm 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.160 probably know you better than by anybody outside of these 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.679 two and your daughters. I would probably argue I did 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.720 not know about the customer service thing that is blowing 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.320 my mind right now? Does it ring true about you? 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:27.160 The candy know the attention. Yes, the flare for the dramatic, yes, yes, 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.719 so lutely. But does she get that from either one 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.319 of you? The flair for the dramatic. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:39.560 I think guilty is charged. I was thinking you were 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:40.080 going to own that. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.640 Yeah, but do you want her and Mama Robot, I 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.160 hear this from you. I think the time, or at 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.160 least she passes it along, that that wanderlust, the travel, 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.120 the venture and whatnot. You would like for her to 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.000 sometimes just fit the hell down stop for a second. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.800 Yeah, A thousand times. Yes, yeah. When she's climbing and 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.800 then she send me videos or climb on the very 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.680 edge of a mountain that's just death below and she's 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.520 just walking along on like a two inch platform. I 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.400 don't want to see that, and I don't even want to. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.920 I was secured by the way with ropes, just so 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.840 you know, I didn't know that. Yes I was. I 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.960 was tethered to a guide who knew better than me 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:19.240 to yes. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.480 So her point remains, you're still hanging off the side 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:27.480 of a mountain with dental floss essentially, Yeah. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:28.840 I know, and I have slowed down. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.160 It was It was not something that I chose, but 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.840 I know that that's part of all of what's happened 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.640 in the last year and a half that I know 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.560 you have I think expressed me that that's one one 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.120 of the good things that's happened that I've I've settled down, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.600 I've been still, and I was forced to like and 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.800 and now I'm in a pattern where I'm with the 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.000 person who I want to be with. I'm not searching 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.840 as much. I think I was always searching for something. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.840 And it's not that I don't still have that adventurous spirit. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.200 I absolutely do, but I do feel very different about 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:07.360 how I approach what fun is, what excitement is. I 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.760 think really honestly, watching a movie with him on the 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.520 couch is like as exciting as it gets. And that's 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.560 where I am right now. And it's a very different 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:16.560 place than I was before. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.080 Right. Yeah, before she never would stop. I mean, if 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.120 we would come to visit her, it's like, I'm exhausted 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:25.280 after two days because we're just you know, running everywhere 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.560 in the city. But I've noticed, Ye, you definitely stopped 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:29.640 that slowing down. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.640 But did you all over the years see it as her? Yeah, 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.240 she has that sense of adventure you talked about Papa Rovak, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.000 But did you all get a sense that there was 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.600 something else to it than just adventure, That she was 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.680 ripping and running and moving and I don't want to 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.960 say running from something, but there was something else motivating 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.280 her to be adventurous. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.200 Yeah, I think so. I mean, you know, especially when 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.520 you can look at things and you know retrospect that 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:04.760 she was definitely looking for outlets that would be almost 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:09.600 distractions from maybe what was going on, you know, inner life. 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:14.320 So I think those adventures. Sure, they some of them 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.800 were work related and you enjoyed them, but some of 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.360 them were I think escapism to an extent. So yeah, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:22.280 we definitely saw that. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.080 Yeah, no, that's all true. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.600 And I think, like what you're saying is in retrospect, 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.560 when you're doing it, you don't realize why you're doing it. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.280 You just know you need to do it, like you 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.640 feel almost a compulsion to do it, because you need 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:40.920 to constantly not be where you are, to not actually. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.080 Let anything that's a problem. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:45.920 You don't have to deal with it if you just 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.720 distract yourself with other things. And I think funny enough, 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:56.520 with cancer, it almost it it put everything I think 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.560 on hyper speed. It went into like it's almost like 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.040 it was like that I already had and then put 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.119 steroids you know, onto it, and then all of a sudden, 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.560 now I'm running out of time. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:06.560 I'm running out of time. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.119 And so that all I think made for the last 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:15.639 decade a very wild, busy, NonStop life. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.800 It always felt like you were running away from something, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.240 not running towards something. So I just I knew what 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.840 you were doing, but I couldn't tell you. You had to 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:25.679 figure it out yourself. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.760 Advise because a lot of parents listening. How do you 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.359 sit by? How difficult is it to sit by? How 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.119 do you comfort or counsel a child when you season 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.760 zero at that point an adult and a strong one, 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.640 a strong minded one. How do you if you sit 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.000 back and that you really think somebody's making mistake or 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.960 doing something wrong? Or how do you support without also 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.480 ruining the relationship by saying no, you shouldn't be doing that, 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.879 Or how do you strike that balance? Say somebody? 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.720 Well, saying no to amy never worked. We have some 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:11.879 stories we could tell, but no, I think you. 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.160 Should tell the door. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.280 We'll get to the door. Well, yeah, no, I think 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.200 that the way, at least the way that I think 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:29.520 we approached it was by continuing to love her and 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.240 to let her know that we loved her, and then 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:36.160 also by setting an example in the way that we 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.040 conduct ourselves and the way that we live our lives, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.159 and that to me. And then we participated in a 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:47.400 lot of these adventures Dad climbed, So we did things 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:53.679 together that I believe demonstrates, you know, the way that 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:58.920 you feel and the way that we modeled our lives 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.480 or lived our lives. We were hoping would be an example, 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:04.520 you know, and that the light bulb will come on 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:05.560 at some point. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.439 But it's kind of not fair because I found we 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:13.919 found each other when we were seventeen, and so we 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.639 didn't want to judge you because that's not ours, not 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:21.320 our job anyway. But in private where we disappointed that 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.200 your life was kind of crazy, and yeah, we were disappointed, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.040 but only for you, not for ourselves. So we just 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.080 love Amy very very much. So we just loved her. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.280 We tried to love her. I don't know if you 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.840 always felt like we were loving you, but that's what 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.200