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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And we're back with Jerry M. Cantor, faculty member of

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Speaker 2: the Ontario College of Homeopathic Medicine, owner of vital Force

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Speaker 2: Healthcare at Boston Area Homeopathy and Acupuncture practice. And the

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Speaker 2: brand new book is The Emotional Roots of Chronic Illness,

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Speaker 2: Homeopathy for Existential Stress. I just want to go back

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Speaker 2: to talking about examples of public figures that had some

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Speaker 2: existential stress. Is Winston Churchill in the book?

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Speaker 3: Yes, actually he would be an avatar for the remedy

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Speaker 3: argenta made from silver. That's a perfect, perfect example of

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Speaker 3: somebody who was obsessed with legacy. His great trauma was

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Speaker 3: that he lost India. He supposedly lost India on his watch.

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Speaker 3: India was a crown jewel of the of the British Empire.

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Speaker 3: He was also the greatest order in our time, fantastic order.

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Speaker 3: And the remedy silver actually comes up for people who

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Speaker 3: have problems with their voice and who are at the

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Speaker 3: same time can have incredible voices, very artistic remedy state.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that was I mean, he was not my client,

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Speaker 3: but he's a perfect example of that. And language is

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Speaker 3: so interesting. Right, we talk about people having uh uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, being being silver orders they have a tongue

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Speaker 3: of silver. We talk about being born with a silver

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Speaker 3: spoon in our mouth. So that is there's things that

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Speaker 3: there's things about that about silver that we know intuitively

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Speaker 3: that tie into that substances relevance to us. Ex essentially.

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Speaker 3: I have found some other examples that you people will

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Speaker 3: get a kick out of. In the book Hamlet, Prince

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Speaker 3: of Denmark, who couldn't simply, you know, simply could not act.

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Speaker 3: He would be a perfect candidate for the Remedy Vanadium,

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Speaker 3: someone who is a perfectionist, perfectly aware that something needs

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Speaker 3: to be done, knowing that doing it exactly right will

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Speaker 3: elevate him, but the fear of failure is absolutely crippling.

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Speaker 3: He's a fictional character Shakespeare invented, of course, but as

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Speaker 3: an avatar of the Remedy Vanadium. I go into that

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Speaker 3: into some detail. Another character would be Phil Connor. It's

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Speaker 3: from groundhog Day. That is an existential quandary for you

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Speaker 3: that people are familiar with, right, every day is the

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Speaker 3: same things over and over again. I mean in groundhog

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Speaker 3: Day it's exaggerated because that's what art does. He actually

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Speaker 3: literally does live the same day over and over and

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Speaker 3: over again. But the remedy germanium is for people who

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Speaker 3: are stuck in a thing like very similar to that.

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Speaker 3: And I offer a case history about somebody who feels

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Speaker 3: someone very much like Phil Connor's, you know, and going

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Speaker 3: into the physical symptoms that pertain to that.

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Speaker 2: All right, you mentioned earlier the Greek god Sisyphis, and

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Speaker 2: who for all eternity is tasked with rolling this boulder

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Speaker 2: up a hill and then of course it rolls back down.

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Speaker 2: He has to roll it back up again forever and

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Speaker 2: ever and ever, and he is an avatar for existential suffering.

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Speaker 2: What would the treatment for Sisyphis be?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? Was that? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Sisyphis? What would the treatment for him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, one remedy would be osmodious osmodium basically germanium. Again,

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Speaker 3: that would be an example of.

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Speaker 2: That is germanium. Where does it come from?

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's a it's a it's a metal. It's

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Speaker 3: on the on the periodic table.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And why germanium? What is his ex people quandary?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they deny personal implication in their plight. It's always

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Speaker 3: He's the kind of people who thinks that something is

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Speaker 3: always someone else's fault. If you go into the history

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Speaker 3: He was. He actually died twice, and the third time

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Speaker 3: Zeus decided to make it permanent. These are people who

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Speaker 3: are just really deeply, deeply in denial. They're very selfish.

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Speaker 3: They they they they they're nasty individuals, and they're they're

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Speaker 3: deny everything is someone else's fault. So and life becomes

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Speaker 2: I got an email from someone who wanted to know

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Speaker 2: about restless leg syndrome. Uh, what's toilet in there?

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Speaker 3: Restless leg syndrome? You know, you you never prescribe based

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Speaker 3: on one particular symptom, and so there are a number

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Speaker 3: of remedies that come up for U for that. The

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Speaker 3: chief one would be made from zinc. People who need

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Speaker 3: you know, it consolidates power. And when when someone needs zinc,

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Speaker 3: in all kinds of random motions, random movements. Restless leg

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Speaker 3: syndrome would be one natural expression of that. But there

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Speaker 3: also would be at the site at the personality level,

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Speaker 3: very easily thrown thrown for a loop by the smallest things.

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Speaker 3: And they're complainers, very neurological remedy. They could be highly intelligent,

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Speaker 3: the energy dribbled out of them. Uh. And as an

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Speaker 3: example of that, perfect example is restless leg syndrome, where

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Speaker 3: And now zinc in the natural world, they say it's

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Speaker 3: so important in other allies. It makes other metals more

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Speaker 3: useful by combining with them. So all these things about

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Speaker 3: zinc are reflected in the condition at the existential level.

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Speaker 3: So that's one remedy for that. It comes up for

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Speaker 3: restless restless legs. I can probably think of other ones,

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Speaker 3: but as I say, you don't prescribe based on just

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Speaker 3: one one symptom. If I took this client's case, I

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Speaker 3: would be going into her life history and finding out

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Speaker 3: when this when this problem originated, what it ties into,

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Speaker 3: if it's if, if it's a zinc case, or it's

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Speaker 3: something else.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm going to reveal something about myself. And

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Speaker 2: again I'm you know, we're not going to give you

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Speaker 2: my whole case history. But I'm a pet perpetual list maker.

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Speaker 2: I'm always writing to do lists. And I mean I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't feel any particular existential stress, but I

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Speaker 2: at times I just feel if I don't make to

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Speaker 2: forget something and I'm going to be I get overwhelmed.

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Speaker 3: There's okay, that's perfect, by the way, not in homeopoty Land.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to everything be pathological for it to

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Speaker 3: be useful information. What you just told me does suggest

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Speaker 3: actually the possibility of calcarrier carbonica that I talked about earlier,

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Speaker 3: So that people who need that are analytical. They break

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Speaker 3: things into their parts, their list makers. And usually when

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Speaker 3: do they like? At their worst, they say, I get overwhelmed. Yes,

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Speaker 3: now when you need that remedy and I have to

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Speaker 3: get a good look at you that there's there are

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Speaker 3: other other remedies that are that can come into play.

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Speaker 3: It has the impact and and the of of creating

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Speaker 3: a slight defect in the metabolism. We talked about Sora earlier,

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Speaker 3: and this is number two, this existential issue around them.

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Speaker 3: I okay in the world. So now, calcium and carbon

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Speaker 3: To go to mode is to break things into its parts.

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Speaker 3: But of course when you break a problem into its parts,

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Speaker 3: Break something into its parts? So that's an existential loop

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Speaker 3: that you have to break your way out of. It

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Speaker 3: And the problem is in this level of the subconscious.

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Speaker 3: But the remedy calcare of carbonica, if it's correct for you,

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Speaker 3: and there are other aspects of it, you know that

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Speaker 3: would be something that would enable you to move past that.

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Speaker 3: You know, list making is analytical behavior, and it's useful,

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Speaker 3: it's fine. But if that's your only mode and you

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Speaker 3: find that you get overwhelmed because that's what you get

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Speaker 3: stuck in, then a remedy like calcare carbonica could be

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Speaker 2: Quandary number three oriented in space and time?

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Speaker 3: No, that's that's number two. That's exists and sustainable, right, ah, okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, you know, obviously Western medicine they consider

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Speaker 2: homeopathy to be quackery and so forth. But is there

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Speaker 2: is there evidence that this stuff works?

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Speaker 3: Have the laugh. I mean Western medicine is mainly in

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Speaker 3: this country that you get that idea. About four hundred

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Speaker 3: million people around the world rely on homeopathy. It's the

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Speaker 3: mainstay of the Swiss system. It's all through South America.

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Speaker 3: In India are there are hundreds and hundreds of homeopathic

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Speaker 3: medical schools. The reason, I mean, it's a paradigm problem.

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Speaker 3: When you do conventional medicine, you have to pretend that

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Speaker 3: everybody is alike. It counts on the on the similarity

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Speaker 3: between people, and all the research is based on that.

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Speaker 3: Even our language, right, what's normal, what's abnormal? You don't

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Speaker 3: even talk that way in homeopathy. Everybody is so individual

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Speaker 3: have a completely different way of doing research. And how

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Speaker 3: we validate what's going on is UH is through practice

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Speaker 3: and on individuals. We have case histories like the when

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Speaker 3: I told you about the robot boy, and we have journals.

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Speaker 3: It's all about money. The remedies are not patented, so

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Speaker 3: they they can't make money for a pharmaceutical company. The

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Speaker 3: political and economic UH gap with conventional medicine is enormous.

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Speaker 3: If you want to get well, if you want to

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Speaker 3: about why why you're sick, go to a home path.

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Speaker 3: make the pharmaceutical companies happening, well, then stick with conventional medicine.

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Speaker 3: But you're buying you, you're buying into a set of goods.

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Speaker 3: There their their idea of what works and what isn't

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Speaker 3: is highly highly UH massaged by their by their their

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Speaker 3: interest in making money. It's and then they on this

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Speaker 3: and destroyed the health of millions of people with this,

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Speaker 3: with this philosophy, what works and what doesn't work. When

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Speaker 3: same way. Same thing with acupuncture by the way, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the treatments are extremely individual and there's been

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Speaker 3: nothing in the conventional world that has had anything to

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Speaker 3: do with acupuncture success. It's other than the fact that

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Speaker 3: people demand it and it works. It's just like that.

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Speaker 3: Acupuncturists and people who do all kinds of good medicine

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Speaker 3: and get awfully tired of trying to argue, you know,

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Speaker 3: win the argument with people who have a completely different agenda.

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Speaker 3: You know, I have this idea of medicine is something

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Speaker 3: that has to make money primarily.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, no, no, no, that's it's all great stuff, Jerry, don't apologize.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's great information. What is the connection between

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Speaker 2: traditional Chinese medicine occupunt sure homeopathy? If it is there

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Speaker 2: a connection, yeah, sure, that's why.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the books I've been writing. The first one

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Speaker 3: is Interpreting Chronic illig Illness is a synthesis of traditional

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Speaker 3: Chinese medicine and homeopathy at the theoretical level. Absolutely, But

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a very simple answer. Okay, something I

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Speaker 3: learned in junior high school. I had a teacher who said,

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Speaker 3: there's no definition of life that would exclude irritability. The

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Speaker 3: fact is, if you poke it, it reacts. I thought

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Speaker 3: that was pretty funny at the time, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: take it all that seriously. But what is acupuncture accept

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Speaker 3: a mini mini, mini, mini mini stabbing, you know, And

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Speaker 3: what is homeopathy other than a mini mini, mini, mini

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Speaker 3: mini mini poisoning? So how you get poked and how react?

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Speaker 3: You know, express your individuality have a great deal to

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Speaker 3: do with what's going on going on with you and

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Speaker 3: what will help you. I could poison you with hundreds

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Speaker 3: they do not tie into your individual set sensitivity, what

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Speaker 3: Like you told me about that. You know that you

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Speaker 3: important to a physician, conventional physician, but to me, it's

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Speaker 3: it's enormously important. If I'm taking someone's case as an acupuncturist,

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Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of individuated information there that plays into

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Speaker 3: my point prescription. So anyway, the ideas we have to

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Speaker 3: state of individual sensitivity, and we're we're not overrun running

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Speaker 3: you over with the bulldoze of a of a powerful pharmaceutical.

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Speaker 3: We're simply exploiting your irritability, finding a way to prompt

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Speaker 3: not previous. Leave to that, when you get homeopathic remedy,

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Speaker 3: overthrowing a delusion that is responsible for your illness. I'm

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Speaker 3: just how it is. People either get that or they don't.

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Speaker 3: for anybody like that goes. You know, people can do

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Speaker 2: Another existential homeopathic remedy?

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Speaker 3: Okay gee. I mean each of these examples would be

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Speaker 3: about the remedy Caniam, which is made from poison hemlock,

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Speaker 3: which is what Hamlet was forced to drink. That's an

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Speaker 3: my ideas are probably are absolutely not not kosher. Nobles

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Speaker 3: need that. People who've lost a sexual relation, long standing

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