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Speaker 3: O Joe, So now let's get back.
Speaker 2: The Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson have agreed to a
Speaker 2: deal to become the Chicago bears next head coach. Johnson
Speaker 2: has been the Lions offensive coordinator for the past three seasons,
Speaker 2: and if I'm not mistaken, I think they finish in
Speaker 2: the top five in offense each of those seasons. Who
Speaker 2: will feel the job vacated by Matt Eberflus when they
Speaker 2: fired him on November twenty nine, Johnson will be I'm
Speaker 2: the nineteenth the head coach in franch the one hundred
Speaker 2: and five year franchise existence.
Speaker 3: Ojo, do you like the high?
Speaker 1: God damn right? I like the height you God damn right.
Speaker 1: Now listen, we talked about Ben Johnson. Now this we
Speaker 1: talk about Ben Johnson that worked wonders with Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: worked wonders offensively with that offense. The creativity that is
Speaker 1: amazed all of us all season long. Now, yep, you
Speaker 1: know Dan Campbell loves to go for it on fourth down.
Speaker 3: Why do you.
Speaker 1: Think he's so confident in doing some of the things
Speaker 1: he does as a head coach because of Ben Johnson
Speaker 1: and what he's able to do. So I look at
Speaker 1: it from this standpoint. You got Jameson Williams, you got
Speaker 1: a mine Ross Saint Brown, you got the portal. Now
Speaker 1: you go to another support of cast in Chicago that
Speaker 1: different skill sets, but they get the job done very well.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You have a great quarterback, dual threat quarterback who's a
Speaker 1: little bit more mobile, a little bit more agile, can
Speaker 1: playoff script a little better than golf and Kada Williams.
Speaker 1: He's a good thrower of the ball as well. This
Speaker 1: is going to be a perfect relationship. Not only for
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, but for Kenny william in his career, I
Speaker 1: guarantee you and I'm gonna put it out there right now,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a I told you so a
Speaker 1: moment when the season starts and we're about when we
Speaker 1: in about maybe week seven or week eight, and I
Speaker 1: be like I told you so, Williams being one of
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks in the league statistically because of Ben
Speaker 1: Johnson and his creativity and its office of proudsat.
Speaker 3: I like the high.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the high. But what I don't like
Speaker 2: Chicago and New England doing that fake stuff. Bring black
Speaker 2: coaches in.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: They brought Adie George in there, and you know, look,
Speaker 2: if you you gotta take it. Yeah yeah, you know
Speaker 2: damn well they excuse excuse me, but you know, good
Speaker 2: d well, you know good, you know, good d well.
Speaker 2: You want to Ben Johnson, right, but oh Joe, hey,
Speaker 2: the rule gotta get that quote. Got the same thing
Speaker 2: in New England. New England, y'all brought two black. Y'all
Speaker 2: brought Pep Hamil to the end. Y'all brought this other
Speaker 2: black you know, good and well yeah, Viral left, which
Speaker 2: y'all know good First of all vibral left, which have
Speaker 2: been out of the league for what two years, and
Speaker 2: y'all gonna bring him in now. He ain't got no
Speaker 2: off of the court that but y'all brought him in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and see, y'all what y'all did. The Patriots did that
Speaker 2: thing so good. They brought two of him in, brought
Speaker 2: two up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, they have to check the boxing. They
Speaker 1: got it. They gotta check the boxes, like you said,
Speaker 1: they gotta gotta meet the quota. You have to satisfy
Speaker 1: the rule that's in place that's really not working.
Speaker 3: I ain't got no te to it. And but look,
Speaker 3: I like to hire I like Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2: I like what he did. You mentioned it. He had
Speaker 2: a quarterback that's more mobile. He has a very good look.
Speaker 2: You got Roma Dunes that they took in the first
Speaker 2: round for the Bears. You got Dj Moore that you're
Speaker 2: signed to a conduct contract extension.
Speaker 3: You got Keenan Allen.
Speaker 2: I think Keenan Allen's a free agent, so you probably
Speaker 2: bring him back because.
Speaker 3: He came on strong at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's that guy that he's not as fast, is
Speaker 2: not as quick as a Amonrod the saint in the slot.
Speaker 3: But he gets it done. He got tremendous moves, he
Speaker 3: got great heads. I like it. Be the big body.
Speaker 3: He can body you know, he can body you up.
Speaker 3: So I like that. I like that.
Speaker 2: I don't really know their running back situation. You're gonna
Speaker 2: have to prove the offensive line just because that's one thing.
Speaker 3: Jada Swift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive line, and you're gonna probably get better because
Speaker 2: you look at what they got and Detroit.
Speaker 3: You know, you got Penny Suwell, who was a pro bowler,
Speaker 3: all pro.
Speaker 2: You got Zeitler, you got Deck, you got Glass, now
Speaker 2: you got Decker, you got Ragged, now you got you know,
Speaker 2: Detroit has a very good offensive line. And so you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to get that up to part in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Because your quarterback took sixty plus sacks. That's too many.
Speaker 2: O yo, Yeah, that's way too many sacks. Now all
Speaker 2: of it is not on the offensive line. Caleb William
Speaker 2: gonna have to do a better job of getting ready
Speaker 2: to football. It's okay to throw it away because sometimes
Speaker 2: I think guys they get caught up. O yo, Well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mess of my completion percentage, bro, throw that
Speaker 2: Dawn ball away.
Speaker 3: You don't want to be taking all those hits, right,
Speaker 3: But I like the high.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they got they got money and and and
Speaker 2: CAF face that they can improve this team. I loved
Speaker 2: the hire by Ben Johnson. I got no qualms about
Speaker 2: that high.
Speaker 3: Uh. He's put his time.
Speaker 2: In as an offensive as an offensive coordinator, as an
Speaker 2: offensive coach. I think it was right. It was the
Speaker 2: right time for him to get this job. So I
Speaker 2: really I really liked the high. I'm a little surprised
Speaker 2: that he went in the same division. Uh as if
Speaker 2: farm a boss, normally they get they get away. Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: But hey, that was the best situation. I always thought
Speaker 2: that the Bears. For me, that was the best situation.
Speaker 2: That was a thailable to me. Now, I mean other
Speaker 2: people and people like the Raiders ain't over there over
Speaker 2: he ain't got no quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you understood that that was that was the
Speaker 1: best fit, especially for him and what he brings to
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was the best. I thought that
Speaker 2: the Jets, you got the Jets situation. You got a
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff going on with the Jets.
Speaker 3: One of the.
Speaker 2: Whatever whatever what of the job is available O Joe
Speaker 2: the Jets was available, the Saints, the Saints. Hopefully, uh
Speaker 2: A g get the Saints or the Jets. I know,
Speaker 2: I think you know. He obviously a played with the Jets.
Speaker 2: Head he played with the Saints. Also, he was on
Speaker 2: the defensive stide. He was on Sean Payton's staff when
Speaker 2: he was at the Saints. So but hopefully he gets
Speaker 2: one of these jobs. But it's gonna be tough. Without
Speaker 2: a quarterback. You gotta find a quarterback on Joe. Without that,
Speaker 2: you don't really have a chance to have longevity.
Speaker 1: Lisa's gonna be short. Lisa is very short.
Speaker 2: If he ain't got no quarterback, well I'll leased short anyway.
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's not what's that. We're talking about that
Speaker 2: another day. Uh. But I like the High. I like
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson High. Chicago should be good. That's a very
Speaker 2: tough division. O shoe, Uh you got young. We'll we'll
Speaker 2: see what Minnesota does with Sam Donald. Uh do they
Speaker 2: move on or do they keep elevate? JJ McCarthy gonna
Speaker 2: be very interesting because you got Jordan Love, you got golf,
Speaker 2: you got Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: So I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: Many scouts believe the Browns will take Travis Hunter number
Speaker 2: two overall and focus on a quarterback later in the draft.
Speaker 2: A multitude a multitude of NFL scouts are reportedly of
Speaker 2: the belief that there's no way Shador Sanders would play
Speaker 2: for the Brows, even if the Browns were interested in
Speaker 2: picking him. There's reportedly thought among scouting circles that if
Speaker 2: Hunter were to go to Cleveland, he would have a
Speaker 2: Jim Brown type impact on the franchise. Brown's hole thirty
Speaker 2: third and sixty seventh overall pick, which would possibly give
Speaker 2: them a potential to select Jackson Dark, quinn Ewers, Jayaler,
Speaker 2: Monroe or Kyle McCord. This is going to be a
Speaker 2: franchise changing draft for the brown.
Speaker 3: I like it. What you're thinking, O Joe.
Speaker 1: You know their identity anyway is their defense. Honestly, until
Speaker 1: you get a quarterback at the hemp that can change
Speaker 1: the franchise right around, like James Daniels has done, like
Speaker 1: a CD Stroud is done. But can you imagine Denzel
Speaker 1: Award and god damn Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3: I don't go.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you got Denzel Ward, I don't
Speaker 2: care if you got prime Time.
Speaker 3: I don't care. If you got mail Blunt, I don't
Speaker 3: care if you got reap. I cannot score, you cannot
Speaker 3: win it.
Speaker 1: You got the build up foundation somewhere. You got to
Speaker 1: start somewhere. And it's been how long since they've had
Speaker 1: a quarterback outo Graham. But they have some good year
Speaker 1: with Bernie. You know Bernie.
Speaker 2: You know they had the car, the cardiac, the cardiac
Speaker 2: Browns with a yeah, the guy named uh Brian Site.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I think in the eighty nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty Site was an m v P.
Speaker 3: But and you know they have they have some situation.
Speaker 2: I think it was Bernie that they went to the
Speaker 2: AFC Championship Games and they ended up losing to the Broncos.
Speaker 2: They lost twice the Broncos the AFC Championship Game. But
Speaker 2: it's been a white that's been that's been thirty plus
Speaker 2: years ago. Hell, that was before I got there. They lost.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, they lost to the Browns
Speaker 2: the year before I got there, So that was eighty nine.
Speaker 2: I got to the Bronco over nighted so seven years ago.
Speaker 1: Excuse me talking about putting butts in seats.
Speaker 2: They had Baker, I mean the Baker Look, they had Baker,
Speaker 2: and Baker had a couple of good years, but they
Speaker 2: didn't have the talent around and he got hurt.
Speaker 3: Uh. And like I said, Baker needed to move on.
Speaker 3: They didn't. They didn't. They didn't like And you have
Speaker 3: to accept Baker for who he is.
Speaker 2: He's cocky, he believes in his ability. I got no problem.
Speaker 2: I got no problem with that. Uh. You know, they
Speaker 2: they you know, they like when we want an adult
Speaker 2: in the in the building. But he's where Baker is
Speaker 2: where he should be, in Tampa, playing unbelievable football for
Speaker 2: a team that believes in him, players that believe in him.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe. The Bills get their revenge.
Speaker 2: The Bills defeated the Ravens twenty seven to twenty five
Speaker 2: in the dramatic finish in Buffalo, advancing to the AFC
Speaker 2: Championship Game for the first time since twenty twenty one. Heartbreaking,
Speaker 2: heartbreaking loss for the Ravens. The Bills what head to
Speaker 2: Kansas City for a rematch? Remember Kansas City went to Buffalo.
Speaker 2: I think they lost by two, Well, they lost double digits.
Speaker 2: Now the regular season doesn't matter. If Buffalo proved they
Speaker 2: lost really big, really bad to who was at the
Speaker 2: Ravens earlier this year. Derick Henry ran wild, but Buffalo
Speaker 2: gets their revenge and now they turned around and head
Speaker 2: back to Kansas City. Buffalo is the only team to
Speaker 2: beat Kansas City starters during the regular season the entire
Speaker 2: regular season in twenty twenty four. Remember O Joe, they
Speaker 2: sought their starters the last game. But at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, this game came down to turnovers and
Speaker 2: missed opportunities.
Speaker 3: Even gonna kick themselves, they turned the ball over.
Speaker 2: Lamar had two bad turnovers early in the ball game,
Speaker 2: and then this is a game that Mark Andrews is
Speaker 2: gonna want to forget. He had a couple of drops
Speaker 2: O Shoe. He had a constantly fumble and then the
Speaker 2: two point conversion. You know, in a situation like that, Ojoe,
Speaker 2: whether it's bad like that, if you bother it sober,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna catch it again because the balls too
Speaker 2: slick and you got no footing. And so once he
Speaker 2: bobbled it, you know, it was like, well, this is it,
Speaker 2: this is the opportunity. But when you you look at
Speaker 2: this game and it's another disappointing season and we can't
Speaker 2: place all of this at the feet of Lamar. I
Speaker 2: didn't think he played well early. I thought they got
Speaker 2: away from the running game too soon. Ohoe, But if
Speaker 2: you look at it coming, you look at it. Look
Speaker 2: at when they came out of the locker room in
Speaker 2: the third quarter and they got the ball.
Speaker 1: What they do with Joe right down the field running
Speaker 1: the ball right down, go ahead, right down, they got it.
Speaker 1: Can you please explain to me understanding, how do you
Speaker 1: what all season long, even with the turnovers that you did,
Speaker 1: he had the opportunity, you have opportunity. There are moments
Speaker 1: in the football game. There are moments in the playoff game.
Speaker 1: There are one, one, two, maybe three plays if that
Speaker 1: that matter, out of all the players that you run
Speaker 1: in the game, and those those those moments, those players
Speaker 1: that actually matter. They didn't capitalize on those opportunities, despite
Speaker 1: the turnovers that you had, despite the turnovers. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: not willing to blame the game on one person, I
Speaker 1: would never do that.
Speaker 3: The turnovers hurt from Lamar.
Speaker 1: One of them, one of them didn't count because it
Speaker 1: was still tell you it was, it was still tied up.
Speaker 1: And even though they can go down to score on
Speaker 1: that turnover, you still had opportunity to tie the game
Speaker 1: back up right checking in the fumble.
Speaker 3: Now, that's that's costly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that costly Andrews you have to live with
Speaker 2: that the oho because we've seen him bobble the snap.
Speaker 2: We saw him against your your Bengals. He bobbed a
Speaker 2: snap and throw a touchdown to Likely. So you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to live with him. Because I know a lot
Speaker 2: of people say, Lamar just fall on it, live to
Speaker 2: see another. But what makes him Lamar Jackson in his
Speaker 2: ability to turn a disaster into something dynamic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tonight, tonight just wasn't it. I feel I feel
Speaker 1: bad for Mark Andrews on because it was right there.
Speaker 3: It was right there.
Speaker 1: All you had to do is be able to just
Speaker 1: to secure that catch. If anything, watch it. That's that
Speaker 1: was that second and third drop. That's the second he
Speaker 1: had two drops and a fumble. Remember they pushed it out.
Speaker 2: He had a big game and the dude pushed it
Speaker 2: out and they go down and if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: I think they went down and got a field goal.
Speaker 3: So that's what pushed it to an eight point game.
Speaker 1: You got to make that catch on by all means,
Speaker 1: you got to look that in you got to stay
Speaker 1: at the lasers on that ball and look it all
Speaker 1: the way. And if you got to go back to
Speaker 1: the basics, the basic fundamentals are catching the ball. You
Speaker 1: can't drop a ball in that scenario like that, because
Speaker 1: it allows you that it gives your team another chance,
Speaker 1: a second chance.
Speaker 2: Now you put it back on your defense. Now you
Speaker 2: put it back on your defense to stop them. Don't
Speaker 2: let them get in field goal range. Now Josh, Now
Speaker 2: maybe they're gonna play a little free. So now Josh
Speaker 2: is gonna probably do a little bit more running around
Speaker 2: because he has some freedom.
Speaker 3: So now he can rely on his legs.
Speaker 2: And I thought that's the thing that really helped Lamar
Speaker 2: on them, Like Buffalo didn't want to give him the
Speaker 2: big play. But the one thing you gotta do is
Speaker 2: you got keep him in the pocket. You can't let
Speaker 2: him get outside the pocket. You let him get outside
Speaker 2: the pocket. So he started off, he's running. Now he
Speaker 2: gets out side of the pocket, he hits Likely, he
Speaker 2: gets outside of the pocket, he hit Sims, he gets
Speaker 2: outside of the pocket, he hit Andrews. You can't let
Speaker 2: him get outside the pocket. Make him beat you from
Speaker 2: the pocket.
Speaker 3: Pocket.
Speaker 2: And I know it's a lot easier said than done,
Speaker 2: but you want to keep him in that box, and
Speaker 2: if he works his magic in the box on Joe, you.
Speaker 3: Just have to live with that.
Speaker 2: Take everything away, But I'm gonna take away what I
Speaker 2: know you want to do, which is get outside of
Speaker 2: the pocket and buy yourself time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the first half the Bills played really good.
Speaker 1: They did half it looks like they bullied. They bullied
Speaker 1: the Ravens on both sides of the ball, even though
Speaker 1: when you look at it now, I'm I know I'm
Speaker 1: not blind. I know I'm not blind, and I know
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing the Ravens defensively or first and almost
Speaker 1: every statistical category. But what I saw from the Bills
Speaker 1: in the first half, it didn't seem that way.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the conditions played a part of that.
Speaker 1: And then being successful running the ball and moving it
Speaker 1: down with the intermediate game through the past, I don't
Speaker 1: know if the conditions played any kind of part in that.
Speaker 1: But like it sucks, it sucks, it does you know?
Speaker 3: Let me tell you how.
Speaker 1: I know it sucks because I feel bad for Lamar
Speaker 1: for one, and it's how you know, I feel bad
Speaker 1: because I'm not even making of you. I'm not even
Speaker 1: making fun of you about your team losing and going on, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not even making fun of you because honestly, as
Speaker 1: a Bango, as much as I love my Bengals, I
Speaker 1: really thought and wanted and I can say this, I
Speaker 1: really wanted Lamar to Witness one because I know he's
Speaker 1: going to win the MVP and I wanted him to
Speaker 1: have success in the playoffs and go far, you know,
Speaker 1: into the playoffs we can get that monkey office back,
Speaker 1: so we'll get that much back. And it just didn't happen. Obviously,
Speaker 1: to turn overs play the part in it. Even though
Speaker 1: there were moments in the game where thing could have
Speaker 1: shifted in their favor and given that team a little
Speaker 1: chance and opportunity to win, it just didn't go their way.
Speaker 3: And that and that sucks.
Speaker 2: And that's what it is, oh Joe, is that we
Speaker 2: look at Lamar and we've saw we've seen Lamar this
Speaker 2: season have games where he's damn there perfect well, he
Speaker 2: has a perfect quarterback FASc rating one fifty eight point three.
Speaker 2: You can't get in the hire that and we've seen
Speaker 2: him have those games for whatever reason we have those
Speaker 2: games have come few and far between. When it matters
Speaker 2: the most. This is when it matters the most because
Speaker 2: there's finality to this. There is no tomorrow. There is
Speaker 2: no tomorrow. This great season. We got an All Pro
Speaker 2: quarterback probably gonna win his third MVP and a five
Speaker 2: year span.
Speaker 3: We got an All Pro running back.
Speaker 2: The worst runs for damn near two thousand yards now
Speaker 2: save Flywers not being in there.
Speaker 3: That hurt.
Speaker 2: But they still got two of the best tight ends.
Speaker 2: They still got. I believe they got two top ten
Speaker 2: tight ends. Nobody else can say that in the NFL.
Speaker 3: They got.
Speaker 2: You know, Marlon Humphrey maybe was the first team All
Speaker 2: Pro at the slot. Hamilton made the Pro Bowl. I
Speaker 2: think they had a defensive line Matta Beakwake made the
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. They had another the end made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: This is very disappointing. You look at the way they
Speaker 2: turned their season around, especially defensively.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, they were really good offensives.
Speaker 2: They lost some games that you're like, y'all go and
Speaker 2: y'all beat this team, but y'all lose to the Raiders.
Speaker 3: How the hell y'all lose to the Raiders.
Speaker 2: I think they lost, ended up losing, maybe ended some
Speaker 2: other team that wasn't very good, And you ask yourself
Speaker 2: how the Ravens losing to these teams with Lamar and
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry and all these weapons that they have. Is
Speaker 2: that if you go back and study Lamar and y'all
Speaker 2: can dressing up however you want to oho in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: he's had.
Speaker 3: Look at how many games that he's actually played in.
Speaker 2: The playoffs, and then look at how many multiple turnover
Speaker 2: games he's had in the playoffs. Now go back juxon
Speaker 2: post rewind it rest play, look at the regular season,
Speaker 2: all of it starts.
Speaker 3: Look at how many multiple turnover games.
Speaker 2: Not nearly so damn near every game that he damn
Speaker 2: near every game, but two thirds of the games that
Speaker 2: he's played in the playoffs, he's turning the ball over.
Speaker 2: When you turn the ball over, not only do you
Speaker 2: don't give yourself to still get play out the playoff
Speaker 2: to play, you give them possessions. So now they take
Speaker 2: you off the field because they're really not like a
Speaker 2: turnover defense on show. Thy can occasionally, but they don't
Speaker 2: really like take the ball away like the old Raven
Speaker 2: points on the board with it. But now all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, Instead of you know, seven, eight, nine, ten
Speaker 2: plays where you could have something to hang your hat on,
Speaker 2: you only get three plays because you've turned the ball over.
Speaker 2: And that's what it's hurting Lamar. And I know it's
Speaker 2: like he's like, man, help we go again. I have
Speaker 2: to don't let anybody tell you. I know you're gonna
Speaker 2: say now that yes, it does because you know what
Speaker 2: happened last year, you had two turnovers, and you had
Speaker 2: two turnovers in the first half this year, so you're
Speaker 2: playing all of a sudden, it's going through your mind
Speaker 2: and everybody's thinking the same thing in Baltimore. And we
Speaker 2: go again, Lamark, because think about it, O Joe the
Speaker 2: man only had four interceptions being tied year season, so
Speaker 2: he plays eighteen games, eighteen plus eighteen plus wonder he
Speaker 2: didn't turn the ball over against Fiftsburgh, so he played
Speaker 2: eighteen games with four interceptions. And then you come out
Speaker 2: here and have another interception, and then I think you
Speaker 2: have I mean, had another fumble.
Speaker 3: He just has to let and I want him.
Speaker 2: To get over this so bad because it's a very
Speaker 2: disappointing season. Because like I said, oh Joe, you and
Speaker 2: I both believe he's about to be a three time
Speaker 2: league MVP.
Speaker 1: Is he is, He's gonna win it. He's gonna win
Speaker 1: because what he did during the regular season, you can't
Speaker 1: take it away from him. You can't because it was
Speaker 1: a special season.
Speaker 3: It just was.
Speaker 1: He has to understand and listen. I know Lamar already knows.
Speaker 1: When you go into the when you go into the postseason,
Speaker 1: and if you look at when you've made it before
Speaker 1: and you've lost, you've lost. The one thing that the turnovers,
Speaker 1: you make it that much difficult. You put your team
Speaker 1: behind eight ball when when you turn the ball over,
Speaker 1: and you say it all the time ONNK, you play,
Speaker 1: you paid double for.
Speaker 3: The You pay double.
Speaker 1: You paid double for him, even though you had a
Speaker 1: chance to come back. Now everything else has to go
Speaker 1: well or damned it perfect to get yourself back in
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: And if you look at look at Joe Flacco, Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco is not a third of the quarterback but can't
Speaker 2: playoff time. Oh yeah, Joe Flaccos supposed to had have
Speaker 2: been the two Super Bowls. He hit Lee Evans in
Speaker 2: the hand and had the Patriots beat and he dropped it,
Speaker 2: not it and then we know he went on the road.
Speaker 2: He went on the road and beat Peyton in his house.
Speaker 2: He went on the road and beat Tom in his house.
Speaker 2: And he went and he won a Super Bowl and
Speaker 2: he had Tom beat again in his house. Yeah, Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco played a buck. You would think, Joe, you like,
Speaker 2: hold on, wait a minute, the hell you doing this
Speaker 2: in the playoff for you don't look nothing like this
Speaker 2: in the regular season. They just call him Joe Joe Flacco,
Speaker 2: that's Joe Montana. Yeah, Protect, it's just the opposite with Lamar.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what it is, Ojo. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's putting too much pressure. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's a mental hurdle. But for the turnovers.
Speaker 2: You go back and look at his first playoff game
Speaker 2: against the Titans in the divisional round. He turned the
Speaker 2: ball over. He played, Remember, and the next year he
Speaker 2: goes on the road to play Buffalo. He throws a
Speaker 2: hundred plus yard interception. He comes back. Last year he
Speaker 2: had two interceptions. Zay Flowers had Again, Jay Flowers interception
Speaker 2: with turnover was costly because they.
Speaker 3: Was like at the one yard line.
Speaker 2: You would like to think, o Jo, where he fumbled
Speaker 2: in the end zone, so you like to think, o Jo,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get points out of that, maybe a touchdown,
Speaker 2: and then Mark Andrew's driving again. He punches it out
Speaker 2: to drop pass from a two point conversion. It's just
Speaker 2: tough because they're gonna put this a yeah. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: he dropped the ball, Mark and you didn't play a
Speaker 2: good game. But they're gonna place this at the feet
Speaker 2: of Lamar because he's the best player. He's gonna be
Speaker 2: the guy who's gonna win the MVP, not Mark Andrews,
Speaker 2: not anybody else.
Speaker 1: But listen, he won the MVP right, not only what
Speaker 1: he was able to do with his legs, but also
Speaker 1: his supporting casts. Yes, supporting gas you know, and you
Speaker 1: need to support and caves to show up for you
Speaker 1: all the time, as much as you'd like to.
Speaker 3: Now, Listen, the onus is on.
Speaker 1: You as a quarterback. You know, when you win, you
Speaker 1: get the praise. When you lose, they're gonna let you
Speaker 1: have it. But your supporting cast has to come in
Speaker 1: for you, especially in times like this and taxation.
Speaker 3: They have to. They have to.
Speaker 2: If oh Joe, if it was a situation where you
Speaker 2: know they're going back and forth, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden somebody fumbled the ball and Lamar had one of
Speaker 2: those had one of those days where he's like five
Speaker 2: touchdowns and he doesn't turn the ball over, but somebody
Speaker 2: else gets stripped or somebody, you know, ball caroms out
Speaker 2: there hand like, hey, I don't know that's Lamar. Y'all
Speaker 2: want Lamar to do? The man had five touchdown passes.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a turnover. That was the receiver got
Speaker 2: it pulled out. That was the running back to fumbled
Speaker 2: the ball. But these situations, O joe. They had three
Speaker 2: turnovers tonight that matched their total from the last seven games.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. That's crazy. And conditions, we can't make
Speaker 1: your excuses. Yeah, hell, the weather's bad at Baltimore. Like,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, oh the weather bro? Do you Baltimore? What's
Speaker 1: the weather like in Baltimore? Cleveland? What's the weather like
Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Cincinnati? What's the weather like in Cincinnati, Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1: What's the weather like? Baltimore played bad weather games, news flash.
Speaker 1: And they don't play in a dome.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: If you didn't know better, we're gonna talk about this
Speaker 2: game a little later. If I didn't tell you. If
Speaker 2: you didn't know the RAMS was in LA, you would think,
Speaker 2: hold on, how's Matthew Stafford throwing the ball like this?
Speaker 2: How they doing what they do with it? They're not
Speaker 2: supposed to be able to do like this. Certain in
Speaker 2: California they play in a dome. Arizona is in a dome, right.
Speaker 3: This It sucks.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson O Joe has played eight playoff games, eight
Speaker 2: He's had multiple turnover in half of them.
Speaker 1: Damn from from a from a playoff standpoint, and the
Speaker 1: chances chances at Lombardy right, what is the window of
Speaker 1: opportunity for the Ravens while they have while while they
Speaker 1: have the team that they have right now, what is there?
Speaker 1: What do you think the window of opportunity for the
Speaker 1: me is to actually get to a chip.
Speaker 3: As long as they got Lamart has still got a
Speaker 3: chance no matter what, you know.
Speaker 1: The funny thing, even with the other teams getting better,
Speaker 1: even even with other teams getting better in the AFC,
Speaker 1: in the NFC, they will still not be another Lamar jack.
Speaker 3: It won't.
Speaker 1: So it always gives you that hope. It always gives
Speaker 1: you that chance in the back of your mind, even
Speaker 1: as a Raisin even as a reason a Ravens fan.
Speaker 1: You know, for those that are you in the chat,
Speaker 1: that are watching, you have to You're always going to
Speaker 1: be in contention because not only an other team getting better.
Speaker 1: You know, your owner, your GMS, your coaches have one
Speaker 1: job as well. Continue to put pieces around Lamar, to
Speaker 1: make sure that you have a chance to to get
Speaker 1: back to this point, to get back to an AFC
Speaker 1: championship at one point, to be able to play in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you know, and improve your team.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? Talk to me?
Speaker 2: How many times do you take the pretty girl lot
Speaker 2: and you don't get nothing before you stop?
Speaker 3: Three? Okay? Three?
Speaker 2: Because that's what I mean, that's the pretty girl? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: Is that? I mean? Three time League MVP, All Pro?
Speaker 3: I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is the first quarterback to be a three
Speaker 2: time First team a three time All Pro quarterback in
Speaker 2: his first seven He's the first think about all the
Speaker 2: quarterbacks Hayton, Tom Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Damn Marino, name
Speaker 2: of quarterback none, It's done what Lamar Jackson has done.
Speaker 3: He's a three times first team All Pro quarterback in
Speaker 3: his first seven years. That's crazy when you think about it.
Speaker 1: That's just how dynamic is specially young.
Speaker 2: Bon Tama, Young brat Farre name of quarterback, all your
Speaker 2: great quarterbacks. The wonder is what Tom Brady. Tom Brady's
Speaker 2: only been a three time first team quarterback three times
Speaker 2: in twenty three seasons. Twenty two seasons. Have a long
Speaker 2: he's played, He's a three times. Lamar Jackson has done
Speaker 2: that three times in his first seven years. About to
Speaker 2: be a three time. He's about to have more MVPs
Speaker 2: in his first seven years than any quarterback. But at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, O Joe, you know, house
Speaker 2: more in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But that's what they see, so they judge the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: off anyway.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: No other player, really, no other player gets judged off
Speaker 2: the playoffs like the quarterback does because that's why that's
Speaker 2: how he makes That's how he makes his money. That's
Speaker 2: how that's how he makes his name. If you want
Speaker 2: to be look, you could be great, but if you
Speaker 2: want to be iconic, playoffs are where it's at. Kobe Bird, Magic,
Speaker 2: Jordan's Brawn, Iconic, Shock Montana, rice My Holmes, Brady.
Speaker 1: It puts conic and puts you into another stratosphere and
Speaker 1: puts you into another conversation. The conversation is separate you
Speaker 1: from everybody else. Oh, there have been a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL players in the NFL. There's been a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks in the NFL. But you become iconic, and.
Speaker 3: I think it's so oh Joe.
Speaker 2: Players coaches, general manager's front office over twenty five thousand,
Speaker 2: damn twenty five thousand, twenty five thousand. Yeah, Now you
Speaker 2: talk about the Hall of Fame that I think it's
Speaker 2: less than four hundred. But when you talk about historic
Speaker 2: and iconic players, Lamar Jackson has an opportunity that when
Speaker 2: you talk about the NFL, you cannot mention anything about
Speaker 2: the NFL and quarterbacks with I say in l Jack's Nameea,
Speaker 2: that's what he has an opportunity to do.
Speaker 1: You know, you know it's funny and even now, even
Speaker 1: at this point with no super Bowl, with no Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you can't talk about the story of the quarterbacks, about
Speaker 1: the entirety of the NFL without mentioning his name. Now,
Speaker 1: so imagine what happens when he gets over the hump,
Speaker 1: because you can't the story, you can't tell the story
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks based on what he's done. Once he wins
Speaker 1: his MVP without mentioning his name, but what now.
Speaker 3: You win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: When the Bradys and the Montanas and the Mahomes having
Speaker 2: a discussion.
Speaker 3: Let me roll my a. Which y'all guy's talking about.
Speaker 3: I'm at the table, o't choke? Yeah? Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: at the table. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Damn man.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's special. All it takes is one.
Speaker 2: And I've said this, I believe if he can get one,
Speaker 2: and I hate using the caveat if, but if he
Speaker 2: can just get one, I believe the floodgates are open.
Speaker 2: I believe the fludgates. So I believe the floodgates for
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson will open.
Speaker 3: And boy it's hard. I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 2: Marino was twenty three, went to the Super Bowl, won
Speaker 2: the MVP, and never been back.
Speaker 3: It took I mean John went, John went.
Speaker 2: I think John came in with twenty one, eighty three,
Speaker 2: eighty forty five, eighty six. He went to the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl in eighty six with in eighty seven, went back
Speaker 2: at eighty nine.
Speaker 3: Ain't win it.
Speaker 2: John won the Super Bowl in fifteen years sixteen. That's
Speaker 2: Kelly number one. Moon number one. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2: They were killing Steve Young. Steve Young was winning the
Speaker 2: MVPs just like Lamar. Yeah, it wasn't until he won
Speaker 2: that Super Bowl he got that bear off his back.
Speaker 1: Once you get that monkey off you, hey, look at
Speaker 1: you read. You ever ran the four hundred. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like when you come when you're
Speaker 1: coming off that that that that that nerve on that
Speaker 1: three hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, monkey, that monkey jump on your back coming down
Speaker 3: that stree right away.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, And that's and that's what it takes,
Speaker 2: all Lamar, that's what that's Steve Young. He had to
Speaker 2: get that. He had to get that one right, get
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Every team has played in an NFC Championship game since
Speaker 2: the Cowboys last went to the NFC Championship Game. You
Speaker 2: got a a You got Dan Quinn with a rookie
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NF Championship game. Kellen Moore is calling
Speaker 2: plays in the NFC Championship Game his first year there.
Speaker 1: Who do you think the problem is in Dallas? I'm
Speaker 1: just curious, chat chat, can you who do you think
Speaker 1: the problems problem is in Dallas? Because everyone that leaves
Speaker 1: Dallas and goes somewhere else. They seem to have found
Speaker 1: success for finding success.
Speaker 3: To the problem.
Speaker 1: Hm, I'm I'm just asking, and I'm curious what the
Speaker 1: chat would say.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you know, Mike McCarthy got tired of Kellen
Speaker 2: Moore getting a little shine. Oh you know, he wanted
Speaker 2: to run the ball to he wanted to pass the
Speaker 2: ball too much. And Lloyd behold, he get he get
Speaker 2: Kelling more out there, and he throws the ball more
Speaker 2: than what Kellen Moore did with Keller Moore was calling
Speaker 2: the plays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody who I would.
Speaker 1: Like to see be the Dallas coach. I know we've
Speaker 1: heard the rumblings about Prime going there, and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if that would work that situation, because Prime would
Speaker 1: be the one to take all the spotlight away from
Speaker 1: Jerry all the tremendously you don't want. I think Dak
Speaker 1: and Chad might might not agree with me, but I
Speaker 1: think Dak and Ceedee Lamb and the rest of the
Speaker 1: supporting cast offensively would do very well with Ben Johnson
Speaker 1: and his creativity, you know, with that with that offense,
Speaker 1: and being the fact that with Ben Johnson they would
Speaker 1: score be somewhere statistically in the top.
Speaker 3: Five when to come to scoring. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just like it.
Speaker 1: I just think someone like Ben Johnson being in Dallas
Speaker 1: haven't been not only being the head coach but also
Speaker 1: controlling and doing the play calling as well.
Speaker 2: You can't, Oh Joe, because he's like al n They
Speaker 2: had to get out the sheet. Al needed to know
Speaker 2: what she was running. We're not gonna get into that,
Speaker 2: oh Joe. In fact, seven Dallas assistant coach just from
Speaker 2: twenty two or twenty three will be participating how many
Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship Game.
Speaker 3: Seven?
Speaker 2: The last championship game appears for the Dallas Cowboys was
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five the Bears. Every team has been in
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship Game except the Cowboys in the two thousands,
Speaker 2: even the Bears, the Giants Wonder Super Bowl, the Seahawks, Carolina,
Speaker 2: Arizona Falcons, Minnesota Saints, Packers, Tampa Rams, forty nine Ers, Detroit,
Speaker 2: the Commanders, and the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Do you think Jerry knows this or he doesn't pay
Speaker 1: it no mind, Oh Choe.
Speaker 2: If you could, if you could do whatever you wanted
Speaker 2: to do and make three hundred million, or you could
Speaker 2: do it the right way. Make three hundred million, but
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get no credit. Jerry wants credit. That
Speaker 2: ain't that's what Jerry wants. Ain't working. It's not working.
Speaker 3: He doesn't. Didn't that man tell you he bought this team,
Speaker 3: he bought this occupation. Yeah, but he told you that,
Speaker 3: o Jo.
Speaker 1: The point of buying occupation is for one so you
Speaker 1: can succeed and win at it, not just buy it
Speaker 1: to tear it down or not just why it and
Speaker 1: be losing.
Speaker 2: I want to do it. I want to work on
Speaker 2: my I want to work on my own car. It
Speaker 2: didn't won't ever crank. Instead of me taking the too,
Speaker 2: instead of me taking to an auto technicians still be
Speaker 2: taking a too. Because you know, we got to be
Speaker 2: politically correct. We can't say mechanic anymore. Got to say
Speaker 2: auto technician. Uh no, now they cause you know, people say, oh,
Speaker 2: let's give him a problem technicians shade treads mechanic. But
Speaker 2: in that situation, man, it's I mean, look at this
Speaker 2: with a rookie quarterback. Dan Quinn stayed longer than what
Speaker 2: he probably should because he thought he was gonna get
Speaker 2: the Dallas job. He was gonna be willing to four
Speaker 2: goal give up of himself. We saw dan Quinn get
Speaker 2: to the Atlanta Falcons to the Super Bowl, have a
Speaker 2: twenty eight to three lead, so.
Speaker 3: He can coach.
Speaker 2: He can coach, but nobody Ben Johnson is not gonna
Speaker 2: be Ben Johnson in Dallas. He needs to go somewhere
Speaker 2: where he's gonna have control. It looks like all indication
Speaker 2: is pointing to the Raiders. I wouldn't be surprised within
Speaker 2: the next two to three days he's going to the Raiders.
Speaker 3: We don't got no quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about week.
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to.
Speaker 2: He listen a lot of times, guys don't want to
Speaker 2: be in a situation with Detroit, a guy that gave
Speaker 2: him a start. I don't really want to be in
Speaker 2: that situation, dan Quinn say. I don't care. Dan Quinn said,
Speaker 2: I'm tired of this. You You're gonna make something happen
Speaker 2: for you, boy, and you ain't doing so. Guess what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and beach ass.
Speaker 3: I'm just seeing there.
Speaker 2: The Eagles defeated the Rams twenty eight to twenty two.
Speaker 2: Philadelphia advances to the NFC Championship Game for the second
Speaker 2: time in three years. They will host the Commanders next
Speaker 2: Sunday in an all NFC East clash. Saquon rush for
Speaker 2: two whole five. Remember he had two fifty five the
Speaker 2: first game. This the second time this season he's exceeded
Speaker 2: to the yards rush against the Rams.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The majority of the yard ist came on two carries.
Speaker 2: He had a seventy eight yarder. He had a sixty
Speaker 2: two yarder. Jalen Hurt suffered his knee injury in the
Speaker 2: second half, but was able to finish the game. Oh ho,
Speaker 2: you and I talked last night. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 2: Saquan beat me. Yeah, if Jalen Hurst throw, If Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurst throws for an efficient two hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, I walked to the Miller field a good
Speaker 2: luck next week. Whoever y'all play against the Commanders. Man,
Speaker 2: you're head of a player. That's what I do.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let sat Quan beat me, and I'll
Speaker 3: be damn it.
Speaker 2: They didn't let sat Quan beat them.
Speaker 1: You have to remember, right, we got late, we got
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, you got lane across the board. The average
Speaker 1: as far as Wade Wade goes. But the Rams offensive
Speaker 1: defensive line is undersize. They're on the side. They tried.
Speaker 1: They had some moments where they were to contain Saquon,
Speaker 1: but at some point, you keep chopping that wood, at
Speaker 1: some point it's gonna break. At some point it's going
Speaker 1: to crack. And that's exactly what happened due to them
Speaker 1: being so under size up front. Even even if you
Speaker 1: stack at nine in the box, you know, once they
Speaker 1: come off the ball.
Speaker 3: They bullying them boys up front. They definitely did that.
Speaker 3: They bullied them.
Speaker 1: Up front, so it looked and it takes so much
Speaker 1: press off Jaden. It takes so much press off. Jaden
Speaker 1: hurts too. It takes so much press off because you
Speaker 1: don't have to do much because Saquon is carrying the load.
Speaker 1: Same situation over there in Baltimore. Put the ball in
Speaker 1: your bell cow's hands and let them take the game
Speaker 1: over for you.
Speaker 2: But but Philly never got away from that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't. They did, That's the.
Speaker 2: Problem, Ojo. Baltimore got away from it for our quarter.
Speaker 2: Why and you look at I played they had sat
Speaker 2: Quan got stopped, but you let him get that hole
Speaker 2: and he stepped to the side.
Speaker 3: Pieced about. You know what's so funny did.
Speaker 1: He picked them small steps when he's running and is
Speaker 1: faster than every damn body. And let me get.
Speaker 3: The thing else. He's quick. The thing else. He has
Speaker 3: great balance.
Speaker 2: If you look at the cross over his step, like
Speaker 2: they give him the ball and he steps outside and.
Speaker 3: When he sees a crease, he.
Speaker 1: Gone here and he hit it. He hit it, and
Speaker 1: he hit another gift.
Speaker 3: He stepped on it.
Speaker 2: Man, the first one that he he stepped on it
Speaker 2: gone the seventy eight yard old Joe. He's like out
Speaker 2: of there and that was just a joe. That wasn't
Speaker 2: a talk, that was just a head dog off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then he crosses over boom and he exploded. Uh.
Speaker 2: A pair of fumbles on back the back drive set
Speaker 2: the Rams back significantly. The Matthew Stafford had La in
Speaker 2: the red zone. I thought that La was gonna do
Speaker 2: it because poking the court made a heck of a
Speaker 2: catch over a sleigh or Darius Slay with a chance.
Speaker 2: And then on fourth down, but oh, Joe, I'm looking
Speaker 2: at there was some muscommunication with the center and the
Speaker 2: right guard because on back to back places you turned
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter Carter, I don't know what I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not going away from him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm not going away from center.
Speaker 1: The center look right, and the guard slid to the right,
Speaker 1: and then he went to the left and then tried
Speaker 1: to come back, and by the time he came back,
Speaker 1: he was sacking Stafford. I'm like, young.
Speaker 2: Boss, bro, why would you do? Listen, Hey, y'all hand
Speaker 2: that over there. I got to worry about this one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the one that I gotta work. He's the
Speaker 2: one and they did it. He did it again on
Speaker 2: fourth down. I'm trying to figure out, like, Bro, I'm
Speaker 2: not listening on a defense O Joe. Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: got Riggie White, if you got Bruce, you got lt
Speaker 2: everybody on the offensive line, defensive line, because you're in
Speaker 2: the league. But I'm not a It's like, it's like
Speaker 2: a d why would you do Why would you slide?
Speaker 2: Why would you double someone else other than Aaron Donald?
Speaker 2: Why would you double someone else other than JJ Watt?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Fact?
Speaker 2: Jaylen Carter And he's the most he's the most disrupted
Speaker 2: right now. And I said this if he ever got
Speaker 2: in shape, because I saw him in college.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not his last year. Last year he was bull driving.
Speaker 3: But when he hunger and motivated.
Speaker 2: And I think he's motivated now because he's got some
Speaker 2: He's an All Pro, he's a Pro Bowl player. Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: If in the next three years he's not a defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, I ain't talking about a candidate.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that the defensive player of the year where
Speaker 2: they tell it called his name, defensive Player of the
Speaker 2: Year is Jaylen Carter.
Speaker 3: He should be disappointed. Yeah, that's the capability this young
Speaker 3: man had.
Speaker 2: He's explosive, he can play the run, he's disruptive, he
Speaker 2: can pressure your quarterback. He punched the ball out because
Speaker 2: he had a great a one hand on the and
Speaker 2: punched the.
Speaker 3: Ball out of Kyd Williamsvan.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, he has all the tools. Now he should be thinking. Man, hell,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm thinking Hall of Fame. I'm thinking they
Speaker 2: need to start getting me ready for the size fifty two,
Speaker 2: a fifty four jacket.
Speaker 3: He has that kind of ability, does he does? He
Speaker 3: know it? Though?
Speaker 1: Now if he can channel all that and understand how
Speaker 1: great he is or how good he is, now it's
Speaker 1: all about him understanding what you can see watch it
Speaker 1: from home. We can see the greatness in ing.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's special.
Speaker 1: He got to understanding and funnel all that energy into
Speaker 1: his craft he can be so he can be one
Speaker 1: of the best to ever do it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He showed up. So he's so quick off the ball,
Speaker 2: Joe for a man his size. Man his size ain't
Speaker 2: supposed to be that kind of explosive.
Speaker 1: Not this first step is not supposed to be that fast.
Speaker 3: And he powerful. I don't I don't know if he's
Speaker 3: weight room strong lo show.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can bench five hundred pounds
Speaker 2: and squall that, But I'm talking about football strength to
Speaker 2: take a man. I said, that's that's the way you
Speaker 2: could tell somebody. Can you move a man against his will?
Speaker 3: His will? Yeah? I knew you're gonna say that.
Speaker 2: Can you move him against his will? When he said, man,
Speaker 2: I ain't going nowhere? The hell you say? You get
Speaker 2: up this plot of land.
Speaker 3: I think about it.
Speaker 1: I got three defensive tackles, right, three three differ three
Speaker 1: defensive tackles that were not only weight room strong, but
Speaker 1: on the field it showed up as well, and then
Speaker 1: their their first step quick as hell. Now watching Jalen Carter,
Speaker 1: he's one that's that's been able to do it. Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald waiting room strong. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah quickness, a
Speaker 1: technical savage with a quick with a quick step. I
Speaker 1: got two more for you though.
Speaker 3: Who do you got Remember Big Sam Adams? Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember I played with I played with him.
Speaker 1: Man, Big Sam had one of the one of the
Speaker 1: quickest first steps man to be that size, but also
Speaker 1: weight room shown and take the cake. The only man
Speaker 1: I've ever seen put forty fives on the bitch bar
Speaker 1: to where it's it's no room left and you can't
Speaker 1: put them on there with the quickest first step as well,
Speaker 1: that God damn Vince wolfolk man. And then he up
Speaker 1: under the bench talking and holding the conversation, and with
Speaker 1: all the place the bar bended. Wow, why ain't even
Speaker 1: straight no more? He got all the forty five from there.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how much it was having people
Speaker 1: in the chat. If you know, if you lift weights,
Speaker 1: you could tell me, Please tell me how much will
Speaker 1: you have all the forty fives on the bitch bar
Speaker 1: where you can't you can't put them on there? He
Speaker 1: holding the conversation with me, we in the weight room.
Speaker 1: He talking to me and slow, I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: bringing it down and coming back up right away.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about slow. What the hell you beat? What?
Speaker 3: I love?
Speaker 2: Hey watching him, you know obviously, uh, watching Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I was disappointed in him because I
Speaker 2: thought he bull jobed his last year.
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna be a top pick. Uh.
Speaker 2: The Eagles got a bargain. The Eagles should have never
Speaker 2: been able to get him at ten. But he had
Speaker 2: some he had some issues, he had some red flags,
Speaker 2: got a couple of you know, some trouble with the
Speaker 2: law and speeding and the situation, got himself into some trouble.
Speaker 2: But he's supposed to have been the number one overall pick.
Speaker 2: That's how good he is. That's how good he is.
Speaker 2: That's that's the accountability that he has. And I and
Speaker 2: I think now he's starting to learn it. Hopefully Fletcher
Speaker 2: Fletcher Cox, who was uh was there and retired. Hopefully
Speaker 2: he got an opportunity to talk to him, said, son,
Speaker 2: you can be Look, you got Reggie wife's potential. Everybody
Speaker 2: knows what Reggie the Minister of the defense. Everybody know
Speaker 2: what Reggie was. Reggie brought it every game, every play,
Speaker 2: whether he was in Philly, Uh, he was in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: He retired, came back for his last year, played one
Speaker 3: year in Carolina.
Speaker 2: People don't realize that Regie play the year in Carolina
Speaker 2: because he you know, he had at that point in time,
Speaker 2: I think he had retired him with his wife Sarah
Speaker 2: had we got a place on Lake Norman man Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2: This Eagles team is gonna be a Everybody thought they
Speaker 2: was gonna be going to Detroit. There's like, no, we
Speaker 2: got the FC. We got the NFC championship game on
Speaker 2: our field, and we gotta team. It's gonna be a
Speaker 2: great game. It's gonna be a great game because both
Speaker 2: games were close. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Both games were close, don't you Uh?
Speaker 2: They won by eight on their field, and then Washington
Speaker 2: ended up winning uh in that last and sudden death
Speaker 2: wasn't overtime, but they ended up winning on the last
Speaker 2: second when he threw that touchdown pass like four or
Speaker 2: five seconds. And the thing with Washington is because of
Speaker 2: their quarterback, ohho, they believe they got a chance because
Speaker 2: look how many games that they won on the last possession,
Speaker 2: the last throw of the game. So we don't believe
Speaker 2: we're out of any game as long as we got
Speaker 2: that guy. It's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1: I wonder what, I wonder what the weather. I wonder
Speaker 1: what the weather's gonna be like. But you know in
Speaker 1: d C, D d C CO, Yeah, DC and Justice cold,
Speaker 1: Philly just as cold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, you'll get, you probably get, you probably get.
Speaker 3: I mean it started the.
Speaker 2: Game, look at the field, how it looked like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be cold. And next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: no snow. Yeah, so it's it's probably gonna be that
Speaker 2: next week, same thing.
Speaker 3: Oh joe. Uh.
Speaker 2: Eagles fans showed up outside the Rams team hotel today
Speaker 2: and started trash talking the players this morning. This comes
Speaker 2: after l a's Jed Verse said last week that he
Speaker 2: hates Philly and all their fans. Jalen Carter approached Verse
Speaker 2: pre game order to put the championship game bonus on
Speaker 2: the line.
Speaker 1: Verse declined, yeah, listen, Urse might have burse might have
Speaker 1: talked this trash, but boy did it well. He showed
Speaker 1: up today on.
Speaker 3: Well he gonna be defensive Rookie of the Year. He
Speaker 3: showed up to day.
Speaker 1: He Verse showed up to day as much as much
Speaker 1: as that's that's listened as a team. The team didn't win,
Speaker 1: but when you talk trash like that before a game.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: He backed it all up. Oh yeah, he backed it
Speaker 1: all up with his play. He was all over the place.
Speaker 1: He was gay jaylen Hurst, Hell.
Speaker 3: Hey, I like it.
Speaker 2: I like jay La Carter, Jayla Corsay, you call it
Speaker 2: put your put your bone, put your money out.
Speaker 3: That I was your playing, No man, I was your
Speaker 3: playing on your bad Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know as a rookie, ain't putting that money on
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I mean, what did it get? Seventy seven grand?
Speaker 2: But when it whining today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody. You know, when you get to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: everybody checking.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, y'all. I don't like I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I'm taking a play cut because I know my check.
Speaker 2: I know my check looked like in the regular season,
Speaker 2: and y'all get me what it was. First of all,
Speaker 2: it wasn't near this that I played, So you could
Speaker 2: just imagine what I went to that I was I
Speaker 2: retired twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: O your soul, you could know the checks wasn't nowhere
Speaker 3: near this.
Speaker 2: Uh So I definitely would have been would the bet, Oh,
Speaker 2: I would have bet like h Green Bay because they
Speaker 2: were talking that ish or I definitely would have bet
Speaker 2: all them.
Speaker 3: Bumps.
Speaker 2: I definitely would have bet all them for sure. Uh man,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. It's gonna be a great game. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be. I don't know who had this. If you
Speaker 2: who had Washington and Philly on your Bengo card in
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams had, but they might
Speaker 1: have had Philly. They might have had Philly in it exactly,
Speaker 1: but not Washington.
Speaker 2: No, everybody either had Kansas City. You had some combination
Speaker 2: Kansas City, Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore, Baltimore Buffalo. That was
Speaker 2: the combination that you had in the AFC.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: So I don't think anybody's surprised that we see Buffalo
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. I think there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: in shock. Other than people like you know, uh earthquake quake.
Speaker 2: As a big Washington fan, you know, uh uh uh.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that that are that
Speaker 2: are that are Commander fans that grew that. Like, man, man,
Speaker 2: I'm tired of this losing somebody. I think somebody asked
Speaker 2: me today, man, we got a chance. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got a chance as a football game. But I
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna putting no money on Washington, not against Detroit.
Speaker 1: The volume