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Speaker 1: Yeah, the police are really have really played this one.

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Speaker 2: They actually have Amber Rebilia on video on surveillance camera

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Speaker 1: Back then you've mentioned I just gotten back from London,

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Speaker 1: David came back with physical pounds in my pocket because

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Speaker 2: Interesting to point out, Joe, And when I looked at

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen this before, Joe, where

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Speaker 1: This is something that they've done digging with, They've done

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Speaker 2: When police and investigating paramedics arrived, they thought at first

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Speaker 1: And you know, obvious to say the phone is fully

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Speaker 1: But here's the key who would be motivated to do

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Speaker 1: My understanding, Dave, is that she was actually engaged and

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Speaker 2: I thought that was shocking when she the mother said

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Speaker 2: They are investigating, and they are Can you imagine having

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Speaker 2: victim in terms of her injuries that you can't even

432
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: have you ever have you ever covered a case like this, Joe,

433
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: where the wound was so bad there was an assumption

434
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: as to what caused it, but it turned out to

435
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: be false.

436
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Because people automatically, when you see most of

437
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: the time, when you see a tremendous amount of blood,

438
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: particularly around the head of many people, at least particularly

439
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: those of us that haven't had as many as many cases, say,

440
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: for instance, as someone such as myself or my other colleagues,

441
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: you might automatically believe that so much force was used

442
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: here that it had to be a gunshot wound. And

443
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: that's just not the case. As a matter of fact,

444
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: this is more This is far more complex than a

445
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: simple gunshot wound. Okay, just so that we understand that,

446
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: But let me back up just for a second. One

447
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: of the big striking points here, and I folks really

448
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: need to kind of understand this big piece of evidence

449
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: are her arms and this is why this is not

450
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: like this is not like she got flagged down by somebody, Okay,

451
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: and they've drawn her attention. Maybe they're showing her something

452
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: on the side of the road and they're talking to her,

453
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: and someone comes up behind her and strikes her in

454
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: the head. Amber had awareness, Dave, she saw this coming.

455
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: She she actually saw this coming. And these these these

456
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: strikes that she has sustained are so over the top

457
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: that there would have been a tremendous amount of force

458
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: in facilitating this. And there's an instrument of some kind. Now,

459
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: when I say instrument, don't misconstrue that I can't say

460
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: that this specifically was a hammer. For all I know,

461
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: it was a rock. I don't know, but it was something.

462
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: It was some instrument. You do not do this with

463
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: your bare hands, okay, if you, if you would, you'd

464
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: have to be a very, very mighty my person to

465
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: transfer that kind of energy from say a simple punch.

466
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: Because we're talking about they have stated that she was

467
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: struck twice, all right, Well, it was so much force

468
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: that there was a tremendous amount of tissue disruption and blood.

469
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: And whoever did this felt as though that the first

470
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: blow wasn't good enough. Let that sink in just for

471
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: a second. Now when she would have been brought into

472
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: the autopsy, Sweet, I'm hoping that they did this. I

473
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: hope her body was completely x rayed. And the reason

474
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: is this, when you're performing an examination on someone that

475
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: has sustained this level of trauma, before you ever open

476
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the head, Okay, to be quite blunt with you, you

477
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: have to understand where all these little fracture lines are. Okay,

478
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: so you're going to have if you think about I

479
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: like to describe it this way with my students in particular,

480
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: if you think about a pane of glass, okay, and

481
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: you're shooting maybe a BB through a pained glass, you

482
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: can fracture that glass, and that center point of impact

483
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: will create a defect or a whole but spider webing

484
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: out from that, you'll have all these kind of curve

485
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: linear markings that are going our fractures that are happening

486
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: in glass. Think about that with a skull. So if

487
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: you've got this energy transference of this whatever this item

488
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: is that she was attacked with, you can actually have

489
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: a center point of impact and you'll be able to

490
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: actually take the skin and put it back together. You

491
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: can see the abraided area, you can see the elacerated area,

492
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: and adjacent to that there's another strike. And you can

493
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: actually have cross communicating fractures or overlying fractures, and it

494
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: becomes very complex. And this is why X rays are

495
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: so important. If you can X ray the body beforehand,

496
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: you have a you have a presentation that is not

497
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: as confusing if you're looking at a radiograph, because when

498
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: you're just eyeballing this, they I can tell you, I

499
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: know exactly what they saw. They're going to see masses

500
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: of clotted blood and disrupted tissue, and you're not going

501
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: to be able to appreciate these little fine lines. That's

502
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: why if anybody, any of our friends out there, if

503
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: you've ever had a fracture and you go to the

504
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: emergency room and they show you the show you the

505
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: x ray they've taken, Well, your arm is all swollen,

506
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: or your leg is all swollen, or maybe it's a gash.

507
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: You can't really appreciate that clinically, But you look at

508
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: the X ray and you can see all the little

509
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: fracture lines. Well, that gives you an idea, I think,

510
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: at least as to her position. Releve To the instrument

511
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: that impacted her head, whatever this was, and it's a

512
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of force, because we know that when they

513
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: arrived on the scene, and this is the EMTs making

514
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: this initial assessment, because they checked her for signs of

515
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: life and they immediately Dave. They called it at the scene,

516
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: they said that you know, she's gone. You know, it's

517
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: not like they started doing chest compressions and put her

518
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: on a gurney, put her into the back of the

519
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: ambulance and rolled to the nearest hospital. She was obviously

520
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: deceased at that point in time, and you know, when

521
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: they would have gotten there, she still would have been

522
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: warmed to the touch day. There's a high probability she

523
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: would have been and she had no signs of life

524
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: at all.

525
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: Now we know from the injuries to her face being

526
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: described as gunshot wound at first, and it was only

527
00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: after an autopsy was done that the medical examiner said no,

528
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: it was blunt force trauma to her head. And then

529
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: her mother giving the description of Amber's arms and actually

530
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: saying Amber did not go down without a fight, suggesting

531
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: that the funeral home told her the long sleeves to

532
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: cover up the wounds that means whatever took place took

533
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: place on the side of the road. She wasn't killed

534
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: someplace else and dumped there. Her car is still running,

535
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: her purse is in the car and it still has

536
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: cash in it, Her phone is laying next to her,

537
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: within inches of her fingertips, and again her body shows

538
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: defensive wounds and that she had been fighting. I was

539
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: I think maybe the mother mentioned there were rocks along

540
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: the side of the underpass there. There's a large homeless

541
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: population in that area, not like right there at the spot,

542
00:35:54,600 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: but in general, and trying to figure out what happened

543
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: that led to this. We know a rough estimate of

544
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 2: time two thirty in the afternoon, but after two thirty,

545
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: when she doesn't get on the phone anymore but she

546
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: is receiving calls and text and four pm, when she's

547
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: supposed to be at work and doesn't show up. We

548
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: know the nine one one call was by somebody who

549
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: was driving by the location, ostensibly saying I saw this,

550
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: But the person doesn't wait. They keep going, which is

551
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: odd to me. If I saw something, I would think

552
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: I would stay there until help arrived. If I saw something,

553
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: I would check the body, wouldn't you.

554
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would. I don't understand this idea, you know,

555
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: particularly if you v yourself as uh, I don't know,

556
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: good Samaritan, Yeah, a good Samaritan or just somebody that

557
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: has some level of compassion that you would want to

558
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you've obviously seen somebody in distress and they're

559
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: over on the side of the road, laying there. What

560
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you stop? Uh? And I think, you know,

561
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: that's one of the glaring things here for me, because

562
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: that person might have a significant nugget of information that

563
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: they might not even know that they possess, because you know,

564
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: you'd mentioned four wheelers and four wheelers imply kind of

565
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: an intimate knowledge of the area. You're not just going

566
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: to blindly ride around an area certainly adjacent to a

567
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: thoroughfare like this on a four wheeler unless you feel

568
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: completely comfortable in that environment.

569
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: Do you want to add something to this, Joe, that

570
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: idea of people on four wheelers riding around. I can't

571
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: remember if that was in a replice reporter, if it

572
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: was just people talking, you know, it's just one of

573
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: those things that popped up. But the nine one one

574
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: call hasn't been released. It could have come from anybody.

575
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could maybe, you know, and again it's late

576
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. Maybe it's it's somebody operating a car

577
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: and they're going down the road and they're trying to

578
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: go you know, think about the time of day. They're

579
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: having to get to their work, just like Amber was

580
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: trying to get to her work. Or perhaps they were

581
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: attempting to go pick up their kids or whatever the

582
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: case might be.

583
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: This is on their way to the beach for party weekend.

584
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the last thing they want to do is stop.

585
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: They've been planning the trip. So I don't know what

586
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: else the police have here moving forward with this case.

587
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I would certainly

588
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: be inclined to want to research in her case, how

589
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: many how many other potential attacks like this have occurred,

590
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, they're in Horay County that have some kind

591
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: of similarity to this. I would think that they would

592
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: have the ability to kind of uh maybe correlate, you know,

593
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: any other actions by somebody uh that uh maybe attacks

594
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: individuals with rock or they have a hammer with them

595
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: or you know, a crescent wrench for all I know,

596
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, who who would be inclined to do this

597
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: have they ever hooked anybody up on charges and this

598
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: extends out beyond Hory County, any of the adjacent counties

599
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: like this. So I'm hoping, I'm really hoping that there

600
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: will be maybe as a result of you know, our

601
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: commenting on this on body Bags or perhaps some other

602
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: platform that will draw attention to it, because you know,

603
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: this is kind of overshadowed. You know, the first case,

604
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, one of the cases you had mentioned about

605
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: that it's going to stick with me forever, and ever's

606
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Heather Elvis. We covered that extensively with Nancy. Yeah, and

607
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: so you had several things that had occurred over a

608
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: period of time in this general vicinity. And isn't it

609
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: a shame that Amber's case has kind of gotten lost

610
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: in the shuffle. And I hate to say that, but

611
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: you know, there's a chance here, you know, there's still

612
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: a chance to belie the police are interested in getting

613
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: that's solved. Whoever did this is I have to say it.

614
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: They're a madman, whoever they are, that would brutalize her

615
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: to this extent and generate these kind of injuries and

616
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: then just leave her laying there. What would be the

617
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: purpose of doing this to her and then leaving all

618
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: of her belongings. You're not even going to hop in

619
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: her car and drive away, which, let's face it, they

620
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: easily could have. The car was running, man, and you've

621
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: gotten money there, you're not going to take that. You've

622
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: got a cell phone there, You're not going to take that.

623
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: Why is it that someone would single out this beautiful

624
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: young college student and brutalize her like that? I have

625
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: no idea, but I do have an idea that there

626
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: is more information out there. And listen, for all of

627
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: you here that are within the sound of my voice,

628
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: I urge you. I urge you that if you have

629
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: any and I mean any information in regards to Amber's case,

630
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: I beg of you to please reach out to the

631
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: Hoary County Police Department. And that number, let me get it,

632
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: let me read it out to you is eight four

633
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: to three nine eight four seven seven, and that's their

634
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: tip line again. It's eight four to three nine one

635
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: five eight four seven seven. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and

636
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: this his body back