1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Lots 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: of revelations that came out over the course of the 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: weekends that we will be discussing. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: scheduled to join us, as well as potential Senate candidate 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Paul Finbaum from Alabama SEC Network ESPN, all of those places, 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: all of that discussion still to come. But Buck, this 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: is pretty crazy from Tucker Carlson and also from our 10 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: friend Miranda Divine. Miranda Divine will join us tomorrow on 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: the program. There are new, i would say, pretty blockbuster 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: revelations that have just dropped about the would be Trump 13 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania. Among some of the revelations, the 14 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: guy was on YouTube posting violent threats against Donald Trump 15 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: for months in twenty twenty. Nothing was done to him. 16 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: He used they them pronouns. He evidently had some form 17 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: of furry fetish, hated Trump, loved political violence, was engaging 18 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: in extremist rhetoric, and he called Trump racist and called 19 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Republicans a cult. They have said that he was a Republican. 20 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: That is, Buck, a complete and total lie. And so 21 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: all of this again, you can go read it yourself. 22 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Miranda will be on the program tomorrow. 23 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: Buck. 24 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: This is it was always we said on this program. 25 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: It's been over a year now since that July thirteenth shooting, 26 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: but it has always been the case that the idea 27 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: that somehow the Trump shooter was a Republican or a 28 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: Trump supporter, which is one of the things they tried 29 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: to float. It's always been ridiculous. But for all of 30 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: these revelations to come out, not from everyone involved in 31 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: the in the actual investigation, but from the media, I 32 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: think is frankly inexcusable. And remember they have basically said, oh, 33 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: we may never know the motivations here. This guy didn't 34 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: leave any trail online. We've been unable to uncover anything 35 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: about him. He had like a dozen social media accounts 36 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: where he was posting all the time, what is going 37 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: on here? 38 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: Well, also, how could it possibly take so long or 39 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: this to be uncovered? And why is it that this 40 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: was at least in part uncovered by Tucker Carlson's investigative team. 41 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: They have better resources, I mean credit to them. They 42 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: have better resources than the FBI and the intelligence community. 43 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: The intelligence community and the federal. 44 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: Law enforcement apparatus is vast, my friends, and does have 45 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: tremendous power, as we know, because when they decide to 46 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: go after you for a nonviolent J six protest, they 47 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: can show up at five am, kick down your door, 48 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: find you anywhere in the country, and send thirty agents 49 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: we know that was there that was possible. 50 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: They can send people to. 51 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: Go into Malania's underwear drawor and mar A Lago because 52 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: of some dusty documents in a bin that they can do. 53 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: But this this has to be uncovered in this manner. 54 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: And let's just be very clear about the situation. Now, 55 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: let's put this into context. 56 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: How many Trantifa furry terrorists. 57 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: Do we have to have involved in the most heinous 58 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: and high profile violence of a political nature in the 59 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: country before we realize that this is and not just 60 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: realize act on the. 61 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: Realization that this is a really serious problem. 62 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: How many of these the Charlie Kirk assassin a Trantifa 63 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: furry maniac. The Comington School massacre a Trantifa maniac. The 64 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: half an inch away from changing world history and taking 65 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: America into the darkest place it has been since the 66 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: Civil War. And that is not an exaggeration, unlike what 67 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: the Libs do. That would be assassin as we find 68 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: out now a Trantifa maniac Clay, Minneapolis Tubuck, the Minneapolis. 69 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Church shooting, that just happens. Yes, well there's even more 70 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: than there's even more than that. I mean, I'm just 71 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: going for the highest profile. There are a number of 72 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: them that have occurred where later on there's kind of 73 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: this whimpering of reporting of oh, yeah, they were using 74 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: they pronouns clay. We're always told this is a very 75 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: small subset of the population overall. I know it's been 76 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: growing among gen Z and actually now it's falling. But 77 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: the self identified trends, and remember those numbers are usually 78 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: for LGBTQIAI plus it's like belonging to a club for 79 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: a lot of college kids. But actual they them trans 80 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: ideologues are responsible now for how many of the highest 81 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: profile assassinations and assassination attempts of recent years. This is 82 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: a major national security problem. And the Democrats, by the way, 83 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: the mainstream Democrat party, the ideology clay that has people 84 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: saying horrible stuff to you. When you say, if you 85 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: have male you know, body parts, if you have a penis, 86 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be playing sports against women. That same ideology. 87 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: These are just the rat that comes from that. This 88 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: is pushed from the very top by the Democrat apparatus. 89 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: No doubt. 90 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that I think is so significant 91 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: about this. He was on YouTube under his own name 92 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: making violent threats. We're not talking about needing to have 93 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: the greatest crack team of investigators of all time to 94 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: figure out who this guy is. As soon as the 95 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: assassination attempt happened, YouTube knew who he was and locked 96 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: down his account. And again, all of these postings are 97 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: now coming out. What's intriguing to me Buck is initial. 98 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: First of all, he's a it seems, as you would 99 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: well imagine at one of these lost souls of the Internet, 100 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: a lost boy in many ways of the Internet. And 101 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: initially his posts on YouTube are very pro Trump and 102 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: very anti Democrat, and then COVID happens, and starting in 103 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: that January of twenty twenty window, he starts to become 104 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 1: extremely anti Trump and anti Republicans. Not going to shock 105 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there, he was very furious 106 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: about the fact that people didn't want to lock down, 107 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: that they weren't wearing masks, So he somehow succumbed to 108 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: left wing politics and it radicalized him. Now he goes 109 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: dark at some point in the summer in the fall 110 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, but there are people interacting with him online. 111 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I immediately think, wait a minute, did some of these 112 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: guys that he met online, did they then interact with 113 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: him and encourage him to attempt this assassination of President Trump. 114 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm now questioning everything because what we were told that 115 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: he had no coherent political it isology, that they couldn't 116 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: find any way to track him down, that he wasn't 117 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: active online. All of it's a lie, all of it. 118 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: And this is also on here. 119 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: Let's think about the political implications, Clay. This happened during 120 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: the election cycle, So wouldn't it matter a lot to 121 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: people to know that what is orthodoxy for the Democrat 122 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: Party a. 123 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: Man can become a woman. 124 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: All this crazy sexual stuff too, that they're you know, 125 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: they're now non binary and use the weird pronouns and 126 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: if you're into furries and you're a them, I mean 127 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: this theff all comes from the left, a left. We 128 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: went into this election cycle, and let's be very honest 129 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: about what the mentality was. 130 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: You me, all of you with us right now. 131 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: We were just so thankful and prayerful and this unbelievable 132 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: sigh of relief that Donald Trump was okay, and he 133 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: had the most badass political moment any of us have 134 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: ever seen in our lives when he raised the with 135 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: his side of his head, bloody a five five six 136 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: round missing, killing our president by an inch. Okay, we're 137 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: thinking about it in that context, but there was another 138 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: context that was missing that. 139 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 2: Wasn't really a part of the discussion. 140 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: Yes, it was someone tried to kill Donald Trump, but 141 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: it was a left wing radical who bought into the 142 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: ideology of the Democrat Party. It was a political hit 143 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: based upon what Democrats say daily about how we're erasing 144 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: trans people and there's a genocide of trans and all 145 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: this lunar and Trump is a Nazi and Trump is 146 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: a fascist, all of. 147 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: That, and the second would be Trump assassin. We one 148 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: hundred percent know exactly what his perspective was. I think 149 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: probably only because he was actually active on Twitter and 150 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: Elon Musk didn't immediately hide it, and you could see 151 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: all the things that he had posted about he was 152 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: obsessed with Ukraine and the idea that Trump was Hitler 153 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: and he thought he was a hero for trying to 154 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: kill him. This is the second one. This is I'm sorry, 155 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: this is a five alarm fire. And how many times 156 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: do we have to hear, Oh, we had no idea 157 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: what his motivations were, and then you just go into 158 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: freaking YouTube and he's posting under his own name exactly 159 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: what his motivations are, calls for political violence. And they 160 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: told us that they couldn't figure any of this out. 161 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: I know Cash is going to be on the show 162 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: later this week, FBI director Cash Pattel, and I'm sure 163 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: that will be a point of discussion. 164 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: Can I just kind of point out one thing he's 165 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: definitely going to say is he was an FBI director 166 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: when this happened, or for all the months after it happened, 167 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: And so, you know, we have to make sure that 168 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: we parse out here who was in charge when this 169 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: went on, who ran that investigation. Now, they may have 170 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 3: had to reopen the investigation, and maybe they were slower 171 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: on that than they should have been, or to do 172 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: it more resources. But Clay, I'm sure the FBI handover 173 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: was Oh, we've already looked into this and done everything 174 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: that's right. 175 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's true. But what does it say 176 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: that the New York Post and Tucker Carlson are more 177 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: reliable sources for investigating a would be assassin of Donald 178 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: Trump than our security apparatus, including the FBI. I mean, 179 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: this is troubling when I read all this this morning 180 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: as I was getting ready, and when I saw these 181 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: videos and everything else, this is staggering levels of incompetence 182 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: such that it makes me wonder is it actually in 183 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: competence at all. 184 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 3: Trantifa is the most dangerous terrorist ideology in America right now. 185 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: That is a reality that we all have to understand. 186 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: This is domestic extremism, domestic terrorism. However someone wants to 187 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: get into the descriptions of it. This is politically motivated 188 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: violence that has a common apt that cannot be ignored. 189 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: It is individuals who have taken the Democrat line on 190 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: this stuff, which is crazy, It is deranged. It is 191 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: delusional to think that you can become a different gender. 192 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: And what's worse is that they add on top of this, 193 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: those of us who refuse to go along with the 194 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: delusion are monsters are Nazis, and what do we all 195 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: know you can do to Nazis? What are you allowed 196 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: to do to those who are fascists? 197 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: Right? 198 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: This is why they call themselves Antifa. This is why Trantifa, 199 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: the trans Antifa wing, is responsible for these kinds of actions. 200 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: But Clay, the Charlie Kirk assassin, the almost Donald Trump assassin, 201 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 3: the Covington school shooter, as you point at the Minneapolis 202 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: church shooting, these are some of the worst things we 203 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: have seen in this country in years. And in the 204 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: case of those political assassinations and almost assassination of Trump 205 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: would have been the worst assassination we have seen, perhaps 206 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: in the history of this country. Honestly, would have torn 207 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: the country apart, far more if Trump was killed than 208 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: even what happened to JFK. 209 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: And I think that's just the truth. 210 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: And this all happened in the last couple of years, 211 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: all of them directly connected, all of them trans related 212 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: elements of violence. And again they covered all of this up. 213 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: About the Butler, Pennsylvania shooter, they told us all we 214 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: came on this program, we talked about, Hey, we don't 215 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: believe that this guy was truly without a footprint and 216 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: that there was no animus involved. People said, Oh, we 217 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: don't really know why he tried to kill the president. 218 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: We may never know. 219 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: That was the official FBI statement. 220 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: But think of how many people on the ideological side 221 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: of this are complicit in the delusion. And I'm not 222 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: saying that they are criminally responsible for these assassination attempts, 223 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: but I am saying that they promote a lie in 224 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: our society that has resulted in some of the most 225 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: dangerous political violence that we have ever seen. And they 226 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: are promoted. They promote this from the top of the 227 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: Democrat Party. The Biden administration was putting out White House 228 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: press releases on the need for trans care, surgery, hormones 229 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: for miners, for miners, everybody. Yes, they have gone completely 230 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: bonkers on this, and they were saying that we were 231 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: the monsters. They were saying that we were the bad 232 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: people because we were trying to protect kids and protect 233 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: women and protect the American people. And Clay, what do 234 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: we find out in the Covington shooting. Why did it 235 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: take so long for the manifesto to come out? Because 236 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: they just didn't want the public to have the real 237 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: proof We all knew, but they didn't want the proof, 238 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: and now another time they can. Oh, they can never 239 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: find the real motive. When it's a Trantifa left wing 240 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: maniac who aligns with a lot of Democrat orthodoxy, then 241 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: it's really hard to figure out the motive. Maybe it's 242 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: a Trump supporter who shot at Trump. Think about how 243 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: insane that is they were saying that. So it's my friends, 244 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: we have to see this for what it is. I 245 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: will take your calls on this and dive into it 246 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: more here momentarily, but switching to something that can let 247 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: us all take a breather. 248 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: And relax a bit. 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We 273 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: claim your sanity with Clay and Fun. 274 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: Find them on. 275 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: The free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 276 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. 277 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: Uh. 278 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: Look, we're gonna be taking your calls if you're calling 279 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: in your writing in on the revelations about the would 280 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: be Trump assassin. We're gonna stay on that story, but 281 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna pivot just for a moment here. Clay, you 282 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: know a lot more about Paul Finebamd than I do. 283 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: But I'm now very interested because he is going to 284 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: be running as a Republican for saidate, tell us what's 285 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: going on here. 286 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not officially official yet. He set down for 287 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: an interview with me, said that he was looking at 288 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: it in a significant fashion, and I was talking with 289 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: him this morning and he wanted to come on and 290 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: talk about it more in earnest. I know a lot 291 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: of people in Alabama are dealing with the big Oklahoma 292 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: win over Alabama, the Iron Bowl, buck the Alabama Auburn 293 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: game coming up in a couple of weeks. 294 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: But he's gonna come on with us. 295 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: I think people will enjoy this and he's going to 296 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: continue to express his interest. We're in the middle of 297 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: a college football season. Most of the state of Alabama 298 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: is obsessed with what's going to happen in the Iron 299 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: Bowl and what just happened. We'll talk with Senator Mark 300 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma, who was at the game down 301 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: with Katie Britt, senator from Alabama right now. We'll talk 302 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: with him at the top of the next hour about 303 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: some of this, but I would say, maybe get cha popcorn. 304 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get some interesting commentary from Paul 305 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: here coming up in just a short bit. And I 306 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: want to tell all of you that if you're out 307 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: there right now as we come up in the holiday season, 308 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: it can make a tremendous difference. 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I know that everybody in your state 329 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: right now, Paul is fired up about what happened with 330 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: Oklahoma beating Alabama in the Iron Bowl game against Auburn, 331 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: and you can give us a take on that in 332 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: a moment. But you are seriously considering running for the 333 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: Senate in Alabama. You talked about this with me about 334 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: a month or so ago. What has happened since then, 335 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: What is your process like, and how did this come 336 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: to be a reality in many ways? 337 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 4: Clay, First of all, it came to be a reality 338 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 4: when a couple of very influential people reached out to 339 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: me just about the time that Bruce Pearl chose not 340 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 4: to run. There was an evolution and I started it 341 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: back in May. President Trump came to Tuscaloosa and I 342 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 4: said an interview President Trump. While you're there, police talk 343 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 4: Nick Saban into running for the open seat vacated by 344 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: coach Tumberville. Saban obviously chose not to. Pearl was next, 345 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 4: and after Bruce Pearl dropped dropped out and decided not 346 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: to do it, a group, the same group I believe, 347 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 4: very unhappy with a rather meager field in Alabama, came 348 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: to me and I was thinking about it, and then 349 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 4: September tenth happened, Clay and that was, of course, as 350 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 4: everyone listening knows, when Charlie Kirk was tragically assassinated, and 351 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: it got me thinking, and as I alluded, in the 352 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: aftermath of our conversation, I talked to a number of people, 353 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: including my close friend and co worker Tim Tebow, who 354 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 4: was very close to Charlie, and it inspired me to 355 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: want to keep moving forward. And we had our conversation, 356 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: and naturally there was a reaction, but the typical action 357 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: as well from the low level political types who tried 358 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 4: to drive me out of the race even before I 359 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: had gotten in. And then a number of other people 360 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: kept saying, you have to make a decision, you can't wait, 361 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: and just to finally circle this all around, Clay. You 362 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: know what's going on in Alabama and everywhere in the 363 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 4: country right now. We're in the middle of the college 364 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 4: football season, and I simply couldn't walk away. And I've 365 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: had a number of people say, listen, if you don't 366 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: get in by November one, November tenth, we're going to 367 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 4: move on. And I said, well, you're going to have to, 368 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 4: because I'm not getting in until I get through this 369 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 4: season and completely think it through. And there's one other 370 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: thing I do want to say in terms of Charlie 371 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 4: Kirk and what he stood for. And I've talked to 372 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: a couple of people from Turning Point, and whether I 373 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 4: run or not, I am deeply committed to following what 374 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 4: he did and what I saw jd Vance do masterfully 375 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: in Oxford a couple of weeks ago, and that spend 376 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: time on college campuses with a group of young people, 377 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: especially males, who, by the way, are big fans of you, 378 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 4: Buck and who bought your book, had made it a bestseller, 379 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: and who I think are really where the future is 380 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: in this country. 381 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: What do you think the impact would be as a 382 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: Jewish person running for the Senate in Alabama? 383 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: You mentioned Bruce Pearl Bruce Pearl is also Jewish. 384 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: It seems to me there's a real war between good 385 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: and evil going on. I think the assassination of Charlie 386 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: Kirk was a part of this. I think it also 387 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: ties into the October seventh, twenty twenty three attack we saw. 388 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: There's obviously a lot of Christians and a lot of 389 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: Jews in Alabama who are on the side of good. 390 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: What do you think you could do as a Jewish 391 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: senator from Alabama? Should you decide to run to bring 392 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: Christians and Jews together. 393 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 4: That would be one of the major goals, Clay, because 394 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: right now I don't need to tell anyone listening to 395 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: the show where that issue is and how much division 396 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: is out there. And I had a political operative tell 397 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 4: me about a month ago. Listen. I like you apology 398 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: mind higher career. I appreciate how you've spoken out on 399 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: hypocrisy and held the people that run college football accountable. 400 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: But you're Jewish and it will never work in Alabama. 401 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: I disagree strongly. I have lived in Alabama most of 402 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 4: my adult life. I think people here have taken a 403 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 4: ridiculously unfair attack and have been painted in a corner 404 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: that may have been true fifty or sixty years ago, 405 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: but is not true today. And I'm not going to 406 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 4: run on being a Jewish Republican senator if I chose 407 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 4: to from Alabama, but I think it would standing up there, 408 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 4: assuming it happened with Senator britt who is someone who 409 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: has represented the great values of the state. I think 410 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: we would make an incredible tandem. And I think I'm 411 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: the only person that I'm not in the field, but 412 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 4: I think I'm the only person that could actually do that. 413 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: Everyone else, it seems, are the people leading in the 414 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 4: so called polling are your career politician. I'm not going 415 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: to waste time attacking career politicians. But the state of 416 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 4: Alabama spoke six six years ago with with coach cover Bill, 417 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: you know what that was all about, Clay, you encouraged him. 418 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: Bruce would have been the same way. And who are they? 419 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: They're people that speak their mind, that don't listen to pollsters, 420 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: that that say, I'm not going to do that because 421 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: it's going to help me get in with the White 422 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: House or get the president's endorsement. Everybody wants that, but 423 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 4: but that's not who I am. And if if I 424 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: chose to run and uh, and and had something that 425 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 4: I disagree, But first of all, I would do it privately, 426 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: am I kind of go on CNN, uh and and 427 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 4: and and tell everybody that I disagree. But but I 428 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: also think that the problem we have nowadays, especially today, 429 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: is that people uh just want to suck up. They 430 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 4: want to sell their soul, do anything humanly possible so 431 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: they can get a check mark from the White House 432 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 4: or the President or someone else. And and that's that's 433 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: my biggest concern running, is that that's not who I 434 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: am play, and that's not why we have been friends 435 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 4: a long time, and that's not what prompted you to 436 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 4: get into this field. Because the audience may have forgotten 437 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 4: you, you were in my field and my company was pretty 438 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: close to hiring you a number of years ago until 439 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 4: it got stopped because you were too controversial. 440 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: That sounds about right, Paul, Thanks for being here with us. 441 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: This is buck and I'm not as familiar with the 442 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: SEC football world as play, which is just putting it mildly, 443 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: but I certainly have paid very close attention to the 444 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: Senate for a long time. 445 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll just throw this out there. 446 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: If you do formally decide to run, I know a 447 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 3: really great radio show with almost six hundred stations that 448 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: you should probably announce it on. So I'm just just 449 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: trying to help, trying to be a helpful guy. So 450 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: if and when the day comes when you formally announce, 451 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: I think Clay and Buck would be a great place 452 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: for you to do it. But beyond that, if you 453 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 3: were to transition from what you have been doing in 454 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: the world of sports and speaking very candidly to the 455 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: people of Alabama about all things around that to the Senate, 456 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: the United States Senate, what are the issues that really 457 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 3: gets you the most energized. You spoke of being called 458 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: to this in part because of the feeling of urgency 459 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: to save this country in the aftermath of the Charlie 460 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: Kirk assassination. But on a policy level, what do you 461 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: want to do what would really matter to you as 462 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: a senator? 463 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: The most important thing, Buck, I believe is what matters 464 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: most to every Alabamian or every person from Connecticut or Texas. 465 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 4: And that's how am I doing what is going on 466 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: in my life right now, And it starts with the 467 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: economy that ultimately drives people to the poult I'm particular 468 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 4: glad to see the White House understand that right now, 469 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: because well, foreign policy is essential and we can't have 470 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: a safe and secure nation without it. The pocketbook matters most. 471 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 4: And that's what I hear. And I realizing that I 472 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: do a talk show, not a political show, but everyday 473 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 4: people that come up to me, no matter where I am, 474 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: come to me and say, how are you going to 475 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 4: make my life better? So I think that has to 476 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 4: be the number one go and and clan book. One 477 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 4: more thing, if if I could divert for a second, 478 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: because I don't want to miss this moment. What what 479 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: what I have heard? I mentioned young people, and I'm 480 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: on a college campus every Friday and Saturday. They are 481 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 4: fed up with their future unless things change. But what's 482 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 4: really interesting if I'm not going to name them, but 483 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: I've had head football coaches reach out to me directly 484 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: and then directly through through from through text. I've had 485 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 4: college administrators, college presidents. And that is the scary part 486 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: because every time I think about not doing it, and 487 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: and that that happens too often when you're trying to 488 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 4: live in the moment of the season, I get. I 489 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: get encouragement and nourishment from so many of these people 490 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 4: and it is encouraging and refreshing. But but it also 491 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 4: goes to another issue. And this is not the most 492 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 4: important issue in the country. The economy is in our 493 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 4: national security, But the most important issue for where I 494 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: live every day for four hours is college athletics. And 495 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: you heard the president a reference that on McAfee and 496 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: let it was censored in your house, Clay and Buck, 497 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: but that we need more work there. And Tommy tumber 498 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 4: Will did a lot of good. But unfortunately, if some 499 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 4: of the predictions are true of where we are going 500 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 4: in another year, that may be gone forever. 501 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: You got coaches asking you to run in college football, 502 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: you got athletic directors, presidents of schools. Imagine that has 503 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: been flattering. What is your time frame? I know the 504 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: primary I believe is in May. In Alabama, obviously there's 505 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: a campaign season, but as you also noted, the number 506 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: one story in Alabama right now is the Iron Bowl 507 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. Have you put on your 508 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: calendar a date whereby you need to make a decision. 509 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: What is the process like for you as you go 510 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: through and decide whether or not you're going to run? 511 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Clay, the two biggest issues here are the Iron 512 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: Bowl and whether to fry turkey on Thanksgiving. Uh, the 513 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: timetable is right as the season ends, and I, you know, 514 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 4: I'm under contract to ESPN, and I feel like I 515 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: have to get to the end of the season before 516 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: making a decision. And if it costs me getting in, 517 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: then I will find something, uh else to to to 518 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 4: let my mind wander on. But but but that that 519 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: is where it is, and it's not easy, and that's 520 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: my decisions, nobody else's. And I do want to thank 521 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 4: uh Burt Magnus at ESPN for allowing me uh this time. 522 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 523 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 4: He's the He's he's the top person in my world. 524 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 4: And it was very A lot of people would have said, listen, 525 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: you you have to You're you're out. You're not going 526 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: to be able to talk about this at this the situation. 527 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: But but but he has been incredibly kind. The other 528 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: thing I'm just trying to deal with is it is 529 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 4: just my lane. And I shouldn't be saying this because 530 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: that's not what politicians are supposed to say. But I've 531 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: been under a microscope for forty years. I've said a 532 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: lot of things, as you and Buck have said. I've 533 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: built a national brand, and I dealt with people during 534 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: on air crisises. And you talk about an on air crisis, Clay, 535 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: try maybe sitting an audience on the night of January tenth, 536 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: two years ago when the note when the news bulletin 537 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: broke that Nick Saban was resigning and retiring. I mean that. 538 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: I mean that that took every ounce of patience to 539 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: because because that was a national nightmare for the state 540 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: of Alabama. But you also what also happens when you're 541 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: under that microscope and every single thing you have said 542 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 4: gets recorded and regurgitated, is you have to answer for 543 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: a lot of things. And that's really where I am 544 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: right now, because all the low level politicians and the 545 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: operatives are saying, well, you said this about the president, 546 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: and you once said this about Nick Saban. I've actually 547 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: been criticized Clay for this. Nick Saban came out in 548 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: twenty twenty and said that he did a public service 549 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: ad during COVID for masking and social distancing, and then 550 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: he marched with his players during a bom march. I 551 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: praised him, and you know why I praised and forget 552 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: the politics of it. Ed Oxeron did not do that. 553 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 4: He lost his team, his locker room, and ultimately got fired. 554 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 4: And those are the things that people are trying to 555 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: keep me out of the race for criticizing the president. 556 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: Once during a debate with Stephen A. Smith and praising 557 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: Nick Saban, I don't know if I can win on 558 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: the debate with Stephen A. Smith, but I'll take my shots. 559 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: I'm praising Nick Saban in the state of Alabama. 560 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: Do you think you would beat the people who are running? Like, 561 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: if you really got in there, you talk for a living, 562 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: you communicate for a living. I tend to think you'd 563 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: be pretty good at it. The President obviously came out 564 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: of the world of meet yet he's brought in a 565 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of people Fox News and otherwise who have come 566 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: from the world of media, and they've done a great job. 567 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: Do you think you'd win? 568 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I do, And I've asked a number of people. 569 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: Because you don't want to get and raised and haven't 570 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 4: become a disaster, I think the better question is to you, Clay, 571 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 4: do you think I would win? Because you understand the 572 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: state of Alabama, You're beloved. I was at it. I 573 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: was in an event about three weeks ago. The most 574 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 4: prestigious group in the entire state. It's called the Monday 575 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: Morning Quarterback Club. They're bringing people from all over the country. 576 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: I was about to speak, and before I was introduced, 577 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 4: the head of the group got up in front of 578 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: the audience and said, we have a big announcement to 579 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: make our guest speaker in our year end banquet. And 580 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 4: I was like, going, Saban and he said it will 581 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 4: be Clay Travis and I going, oh my goodness, I 582 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: mean and there was an absolute cheer. So the reason 583 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: I turned the question back to you is you know 584 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: the state of Alabama. 585 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would win in a landslide. But I told 586 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Buck you would win in a landslide. Buck's right. When 587 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: you decide to run, you come on, you announce it 588 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: with us. We'll make that even more likely. Potentially next 589 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Senator Paul fine bamb talking about the big Oklahoma loss 590 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: on his SEC Network show later today, Senator Finebaum potentially, 591 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: thanks for the time here and we'll talk to. 592 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: You again soon. 593 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: Play Buck, thank you very bad. 594 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: Not you, that is Paul Feinebaum, and you guys can 595 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: react to that. I know all over Alabama a lot 596 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: of people listening to his show on a regular basis 597 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: not expecting necessarily to hear him on here. 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You can play in forty states, thirteen million people. 613 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: Pricepicks dot Com, Code Clay. 614 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 3: Play Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is. 615 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 616 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 617 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: Welcome back in everybody you play and Buck coming up, 618 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 3: We have an Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, he'll talk 619 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: to us about the latest strike on those boats, those 620 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: Venezuelan Narco terrorists designated boats that our Department of Wars 621 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: blowing up. I think they've gotten to twenty of them 622 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: plus twenty plus now boats they've blown it. They're blown 623 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: up a bunch of boats. This has now become a 624 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: pretty consistent drum beat in the news cycle of these 625 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: boats are being blown up. It is a little surprising. 626 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: I think at some level Clay that, well, we'd have 627 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: to see the numbers. Is this actually reducing I would 628 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: think it would be harder to get people to be 629 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 3: drug runners if they were gonna get blown It's one 630 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 3: thing that if you're going to spend time in a 631 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 3: US federal prison, that's very unpleasant, but it's another thing 632 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 3: if you're actually going to be blown to smithereens out 633 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 3: in the open ocean. I agree with you one hundred percent. 634 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: I think it's the message of deterrence that's being sent 635 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: because a lot of these guys, it's one thing to 636 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: take the risk of you might get arrested. You're making 637 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 3: generational money for your families back home. It's another thing 638 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 3: to think you have no knowledge. One moment you're fine, 639 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 3: in the next moment you're blown up. I think that 640 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: those videos are certainly circulating widely now. They may be 641 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: making so much money that they'll take the risk no 642 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: matter what. But I would think it has to give 643 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: pause to some people out there who are thinking about 644 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: jumping on. So far eighty two Narco terrorists killed in 645 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: these latest operations. 646 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. 647 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Will also take some of your calls open phone line 648 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: eight hundred and two A two two eight A two, 649 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: because I think we're gonna continue to discuss uh the 650 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: Trump assassin revelations that have emerged, because frankly, I found 651 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: them to be stunning based on what we had been 652 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: told before. Now we'll take some of your calls. Some 653 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: of you may want to weigh in on the idea 654 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: of Senator Paul Finbaum. 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