Speaker 1: Welcome to Part Time Genius, the production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: I guess what, Mango? What's that? Well? All right, so
Speaker 1: you know the story of David and Goliath, Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the most famous underdog story in history. I
Speaker 1: think it probably is, But it actually turns out that
Speaker 1: David may not have been the underdog that he's been
Speaker 1: made out to be over the years, and some historians
Speaker 1: think that David was actually the one with the advantage.
Speaker 1: So Goliath was definitely big. He was either six ft
Speaker 1: eight or nine ft seven, depending on which account you
Speaker 1: look yet, so yeah, it's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: difference there, but he's one of those and at that time,
Speaker 1: either of those heights would have just been huge, right.
Speaker 1: And he was also wearing some heavy duty bronze armor,
Speaker 1: wielding a sword, a spear, and a javelin. I didn't
Speaker 1: actually remember all of these things. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Even though David was going in without any of that,
Speaker 1: no armor, no blades, no high ground, he was packing
Speaker 1: superior firepower. So everybody knows he had a sling shot,
Speaker 1: but I think most people probably picture the kinds of
Speaker 1: sling shots that maybe we had his kids or something
Speaker 1: like that. This was not a kid's toy, so he
Speaker 1: was using a sturdy, leather pouch with two long cords
Speaker 1: attached to it. Now, this would have been the same
Speaker 1: kind of sling that soldiers at the time we're using
Speaker 1: for long range attacks, and he mastered the weapon during
Speaker 1: his time as a shepherd, where he would use it
Speaker 1: to ward off wolves other predators. So in his hands
Speaker 1: it was truly a deadly weapon. In fact, the stopping
Speaker 1: power of the stone fired from david sling would have
Speaker 1: been comparable to that of a forty five caliber handgun.
Speaker 1: What that's crazy. It's almost like that scene in Indiana
Speaker 1: Jones where the bad guy does all this fancy sword
Speaker 1: wielding and then Indie just shoots him and walks away.
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about that scene bit right, Like the
Speaker 1: fight was over before it even began, and it does
Speaker 1: make David's victory a little bit less surprising when you
Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah. So, I was actually thinking about
Speaker 1: David and Goliath recently, and I realized I don't know
Speaker 1: what the beef was between them, Like, was it just
Speaker 1: a bully thing? Why? Why exactly were they fighting? I
Speaker 1: think you you clearly did not sit through as much
Speaker 1: Sunday School, as I did over the years. But yes,
Speaker 1: it was more or less a land dispute. So at
Speaker 1: the time, the Israelites were living in a mountain range
Speaker 1: along the eastern border of Palestine, and eventually their enemies,
Speaker 1: the Philistines, they started to encroach on that territory. But
Speaker 1: rather than have like this full battle with all the
Speaker 1: bloodshed that would be involved there, the two sides agreed
Speaker 1: to settle things with a little one on one fight.
Speaker 1: So the Philistines sent their mightiest warrior to act as
Speaker 1: their champion. That was, of course, Goliath, and the Israelites
Speaker 1: sent David because well, actually he was the only one
Speaker 1: willing to face off against the giant. But you take
Speaker 1: a second look at this famous story and you see
Speaker 1: how exaggerated the Philistine threat may have actually been. And
Speaker 1: so it maybe wonder if there was anything else about
Speaker 1: the Philistine is that we should probably think twice about.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all know they've gotten a bad rap
Speaker 1: over the years, and I'm hoping that today we can
Speaker 1: shed some light on whether or not they really deserve it.
Speaker 1: So we've got eight facts left to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Let's dive in, right, h Hey. Their podcast listeners, Welcome
Speaker 1: to Part Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and as always
Speaker 1: I'm joined by my good friend man guest Ticketer and
Speaker 1: on the other side of the computer screen showing his
Speaker 1: Philistine pride with a shirt that says, actually turn it
Speaker 1: this way, it says justice for Goliath. That's our friend
Speaker 1: and producer lull That is. I don't know where he
Speaker 1: got it, and this may have been another one of
Speaker 1: his homemade ones, but it's impressive. And that is a
Speaker 1: hot take if I've ever seen one, but I guess
Speaker 1: it is good to know where Lowell stands on all
Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, Lowell stands with Philistines, Yes he does.
Speaker 1: It is funny. But when I saw the topic for
Speaker 1: the show in our sort of running Google doc, it
Speaker 1: made me laugh because I've had this dad joke for
Speaker 1: a while. I I've been telling, you know, Lizzie and
Speaker 1: I are from different backgrounds, and people always ask like,
Speaker 1: how are you raising your kids? And my standard answer
Speaker 1: is like, well, Lizzie's Christian, I'm Hindu, but we're raising
Speaker 1: our kids Philistine because my kids are awful. But I'm
Speaker 1: actually glad we're learning about this culture because I've been
Speaker 1: using it as a punchline for such a long time. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I feel like I have to.
Speaker 1: Over the years, we've got our friend and researcher Gabe
Speaker 1: Bluesier with us here. Gabe, good to see you again. Hey, well,
Speaker 1: hey Mango, nice to be back. All right, So I'm
Speaker 1: curious about this. Do you have a stance on David
Speaker 1: versus Goliath? Gabe? I mean, I try not to take sides,
Speaker 1: but I will admit I do have a soft spot
Speaker 1: for David. I had this Nintendo game as a kid
Speaker 1: called Bible Adventures, and there was a section when there
Speaker 1: was a whole section of the game when you played
Speaker 1: as David. And the really funny thing to me was
Speaker 1: the gameplay was all based on, you know, the fact
Speaker 1: that he was a shepherd, Like that's the part of
Speaker 1: the story that the developers thought would make the best game.
Speaker 1: So most of the time you're just David. You're running
Speaker 1: around collecting sheep, returning them to their pen. You only
Speaker 1: fight Goliath at the very very end. Oh wow, So
Speaker 1: I'm actually super curious because I've never heard about this game.
Speaker 1: Are are the sheep important to winning the game? Unfortunately? No,
Speaker 1: not really, Like you have a slingshot by the time
Speaker 1: you face Goliath, so you have to take him down
Speaker 1: with the old rock between the eyes trick. You know.
Speaker 1: Apparently that's the one detail the game developers were sticklers about,
Speaker 1: like you can climb a tree with with five sheep
Speaker 1: stacked on top of your head, but you can only
Speaker 1: kill the giant with a rock. I love that. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm up next. And since Will mentioned what a bad
Speaker 1: reputation the Philistines have, I kind wanted to look into
Speaker 1: why they got it and who they got it from. So,
Speaker 1: as you can probably guess, the Israelites are the source
Speaker 1: behind most of the griping about the Philistines. And you know,
Speaker 1: they're talking about them being barbaric and crude and uncivilized,
Speaker 1: and if you flip through the Bible, it's not hard
Speaker 1: to see why the Israelites might feel that way. Right.
Speaker 1: There are more than a dozen violent clashes between the groups,
Speaker 1: plus a few random acts of meanness, like the time
Speaker 1: the Philistines destroyed Abraham's well by filling them up with dirt.
Speaker 1: Classic Philistines, I think. So there's actually another piece of
Speaker 1: evidence for why the groups didn't get along, and it
Speaker 1: comes from a pretty strange source, and that's ancient pigs.
Speaker 1: So back in two thousand thirteen, a team of archaeologists
Speaker 1: compared the DNA of ancient pig remains with that of
Speaker 1: modern pigs, and what they found was that the boars
Speaker 1: that live in Israel today are actually descendants of the
Speaker 1: Philistines pigs, which they likely brought over from Europe. And
Speaker 1: since observant Jews don't eat pork, archaeologists think that the
Speaker 1: Philistines taste for swine kind of forced this Oz versus
Speaker 1: them mentality sort of with the Israelites. That's interesting. I've
Speaker 1: never heard that. But here's something weird I learned this week.
Speaker 1: It turns out the word Palestine is actually derived from
Speaker 1: Philistine or Philistine, And just to be clear, the two
Speaker 1: groups are not related. But after they came to the region,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're talking about ninth century b c e. Here,
Speaker 1: the Philistines had assimilated so completely that it was actually
Speaker 1: impossible to distinguish them from other groups in the area.
Speaker 1: They lost all their defining characteristics and basically disappeared as
Speaker 1: a people, but their name lived on because a few
Speaker 1: centuries later, when the Roman Empire invaded, they just romanized
Speaker 1: the old name Philistine and turned it into Palestine, and
Speaker 1: so the names stuck around ever since, even though there's
Speaker 1: not really a connection between the two groups. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: So so do both names mean the same thing, like
Speaker 1: Philistine and Palestine. Yeah, that that's the other weird part.
Speaker 1: Both words do mean the same thing. They roughly translate
Speaker 1: as the foreign invaders. And if that sounds like a
Speaker 1: weird thing for a group to call themselves, it's because
Speaker 1: they didn't. The name Philistines was just what the Israelites
Speaker 1: and the Egyptians called the group. To this day, we
Speaker 1: have no idea what the Philistines actually called themselves, and
Speaker 1: we probably never will. All Right, well, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: two got into some of the origin stuff because I
Speaker 1: actually want to talk about how philistine became kind of
Speaker 1: like this insult that you'd use to describe mangoes, kids,
Speaker 1: mainly mangoes. According to the Merriam Webster Dictionary of philistine
Speaker 1: is quote a person who is usually disdainful of intellectual
Speaker 1: or artistic values. So yeah, that's pretty rough. But that
Speaker 1: definition actually has a lot less to do with historical
Speaker 1: accuracy than it does with classism or like general snootiness.
Speaker 1: So the modern meaning began to take shape at German
Speaker 1: universities in the late seventeenth century, where you'd have these
Speaker 1: stuck up students who would mock the townies by calling
Speaker 1: them philisters. And so from their writers and critics picked
Speaker 1: up on the word, and it began to spread across Europe,
Speaker 1: and you fast forward to the seventeen hundreds, it had
Speaker 1: made its way to America. And here's the most surprising bit.
Speaker 1: Ben Franklin was one of the first Americans to popularize
Speaker 1: the term. Here it was in seventeen thirty seven he
Speaker 1: published a list of more than two hundred expressions for
Speaker 1: describing someone who's had too much to drink, and among
Speaker 1: them was the colorful phrase he has been among the Philistines.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. I feel like at mental last that
Speaker 1: list would come up over and over again, and every
Speaker 1: single time I read it, I was like delighted by it.
Speaker 1: It's just so great. But you know what, what what's
Speaker 1: funny about that fact is that it's actually kind of accurate.
Speaker 1: Like the Philistines were known as these party animals of
Speaker 1: the ancient world. Um their feasts were ragers, and and
Speaker 1: their cities were filled with multiple breweries and wineries, so
Speaker 1: they were really ahead of the curve in terms of
Speaker 1: alcohol production. But the thing I found surprising is that
Speaker 1: the Philistines were far from uncivilized. Like these biblical stories
Speaker 1: and stereotypes kind of make them seem like they were
Speaker 1: a bunch of meat heads, but there's all this archaeological
Speaker 1: evidence that proves the opposite. So, for instance, the Philistine
Speaker 1: graveyard was discovered for the first time in two thousand
Speaker 1: and thirteen, and it showed that there were people who
Speaker 1: lovingly buried their dead, so many of the bodies were
Speaker 1: entombed with a bottle of perfume next to their face,
Speaker 1: so that the deceased could almost like enjoy the fragrance
Speaker 1: throughout era Trinity. Wow, So I grew up going to
Speaker 1: Sunday School and there was never any hint of that
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, tenderness from the Philistines, Like
Speaker 1: they were always just the bad guys. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: mean that makes sense, right, Like history is written by
Speaker 1: the victors, And so it's only now with these recent
Speaker 1: discoveries that we're starting to get this fuller picture of
Speaker 1: who they really were. And as it turns out, they
Speaker 1: were way more advanced than we've given them credit for.
Speaker 1: There were, in fact, like years ahead of the Israelites.
Speaker 1: The Philistines were renowned for their use of iron, which
Speaker 1: was a rarity during the Bronze Age. They were the
Speaker 1: only ones who knew how to refine and temper the metals.
Speaker 1: So even the Israelites would have had to rely on
Speaker 1: the Philistines when they need to sharpen or repair their
Speaker 1: iron tools and weapons. Wait, so their arch enemies would
Speaker 1: ask them for help with their weapons, like, like, sharpen
Speaker 1: this for me, please, so I can turn around and
Speaker 1: stab you with it. Is that kind of what was happening.
Speaker 1: That's basically the case. I mean, it's super weird, but
Speaker 1: you know, there's all this mounting evidence that the two
Speaker 1: groups may not have been as directly opposed as we
Speaker 1: once thought. And uh, I mean they clashed a lot
Speaker 1: for sure, because they were living alongside each other, but
Speaker 1: they also had to work together and share resources, and
Speaker 1: eventually they intermingled so much that the Philistines ceased to
Speaker 1: be a distinct people. This is kind of what Gay
Speaker 1: was talking about. So the relationship probably wasn't as cut
Speaker 1: and dry as you might think. Well, I mean, that
Speaker 1: seems like a nice upbeat place to stop and take
Speaker 1: a quick break. But we've got four facts left to go,
Speaker 1: so we'll be right back. Welcome back to Part time Genius,
Speaker 1: where we're talking about the Philistines. Were these iron wielding
Speaker 1: heathens that history loves to hate, and today we're actually
Speaker 1: trying to give the group a much needed makeover. So
Speaker 1: Gabe Europe next, help us win some hearts and minds
Speaker 1: with this one. Go for it, all right, I think
Speaker 1: I've got just the thing. Everybody loves green onions or scallions, right,
Speaker 1: of course they do. And you know they're found in
Speaker 1: everything from thanks starting with right now. Everybody loves green onions.
Speaker 1: It's a matter of fact. And you know they're found
Speaker 1: in everything from Mexican cooking to Chinese food. And if
Speaker 1: you are a fan, you've got the Philistines to thank
Speaker 1: for it. Um. The Philistines were among the first groups
Speaker 1: to cultivate green onions and export them from their ports
Speaker 1: city of ash Colon, which is still a city in
Speaker 1: Israel today. And in fact, the onions were such a
Speaker 1: hit that everyone started talking about the onions of Ascalon
Speaker 1: and uh, eventually the words just kind of got squished
Speaker 1: together and people started calling them scallions. I love that,
Speaker 1: Like it was just everyone was buzzing about these things,
Speaker 1: these signings of it is an amazing fact. So I've
Speaker 1: got another one that hopefully it drums up a little
Speaker 1: sympathy for the Philistines. I assume we're all familiar with
Speaker 1: the Ark of the Covenant, right, like the Sacred Hebrew artifact,
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones plot device, all that. Man, he just keeps
Speaker 1: coming up today, like Indiana Jones. Get a lot of
Speaker 1: shout outs. Yeah, I mean, I feel like you can't
Speaker 1: escape him. He's like one of the three cultural relevant
Speaker 1: points we have for you know, archaeology. The real Ark
Speaker 1: of the Covenant was an incredibly meaningful object to the Israelites,
Speaker 1: and everyone at the time knew this, including the Philistines.
Speaker 1: So one day, when tensions were super high, some Philistine
Speaker 1: pranksters stole the our and placed it in one of
Speaker 1: their own temples, which kind of sounds like a college
Speaker 1: prank or something, right. But if Raiders of the Lost
Speaker 1: Arc is is clear about one thing, it's that bad
Speaker 1: things happen to people who misused the arc. So the
Speaker 1: Philistines didn't get their faces melted off. But what they
Speaker 1: did get was a mass plague of hemorrhoids. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure which is worse. It might be worse to actually
Speaker 1: have your face melted off. We'll have to check. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, this is for real according to the Bible,
Speaker 1: the quote the hand of the Lord was against them,
Speaker 1: and he smote the men of the city, both small
Speaker 1: and great, with hemorrhoids in their secret parts and mental flaws.
Speaker 1: Did a peace back on this and the back of
Speaker 1: the day, and and they referred to this as quote
Speaker 1: the only mass hemorrhoid attack and recorded history, So you
Speaker 1: know it kind of kind of a strange claim, but
Speaker 1: you know it. It did take some time for them
Speaker 1: to get some relief. The hemorrhoids actually stuck around for
Speaker 1: a full seven months. Uh. I guess this is before preparation.
Speaker 1: Ah but um. At that point, the Philistines only asked
Speaker 1: the priest how they could atone for their sins and
Speaker 1: end this plague, and the answer was, of course, to
Speaker 1: return the ark to the Israelites. So this is actually
Speaker 1: my favorite part because they were instructed to make amends
Speaker 1: by sending an offering of what included quote five golden hemorrhoids.
Speaker 1: Uh um, it's best if you don't try to picture
Speaker 1: that and what am I to looked like? But I
Speaker 1: do find a funny that some poor Philistine sculpture had
Speaker 1: to grapple with what that should look like. Such a
Speaker 1: gross and weird story, but but but a good one,
Speaker 1: all right, all right. I mentioned earlier that the Philistines
Speaker 1: and Israelites probably had way more daily interaction than you
Speaker 1: would have expected, and I do want to talk about
Speaker 1: one of the strangest examples of that. And the story
Speaker 1: goes back to Samson, who was the Israelite who of
Speaker 1: course had the long hair that gave him super strength
Speaker 1: until Delilah cut it off. But something you may not
Speaker 1: remember about this is that Samson was actually married to
Speaker 1: a Philistine woman long before he was connected with Delilah,
Speaker 1: and and they had a pretty unusual courtship. So one
Speaker 1: day Sampson was on his way to visit his bride
Speaker 1: to be when he suddenly crossed his path with a
Speaker 1: wild lion. There So this isn't a problem for Samson,
Speaker 1: though he easily kills it with his bare hands and
Speaker 1: carries it on his merry way. And you fast forward
Speaker 1: to the next week, and Samson is on his way
Speaker 1: to marry this philistine girl. Now, this time he comes
Speaker 1: across the carcass of a dead lion, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: it's now overflowing with bee hives and loads of fresh honey.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, so Samson does what any of us
Speaker 1: would do. He tucks into the dead lion and scoops
Speaker 1: himself out some honey. You know it's honey. You don't
Speaker 1: want to turn that down. But not only that, he
Speaker 1: also gathers some to serve at his wedding feast. So
Speaker 1: this is already like the weirdest story I've ever heard,
Speaker 1: But but I feel like you're just getting started here. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is definitely one that just keeps getting weirder. And
Speaker 1: actually did not remember much of this from from Gabe
Speaker 1: and my my Sunday school classes. But what you cut
Speaker 1: to Sampson's wedding feast and he's sitting around with all
Speaker 1: of his wife's philistine friends chowing down on the lion honey.
Speaker 1: When suddenly Samson tells the group that he has a
Speaker 1: riddle for them. You know, he's probably feeling kind of giddy,
Speaker 1: he's been eating all that honey, and if they can
Speaker 1: solve it within seven days, he'll reward them with thirty
Speaker 1: new sets of clothes. But if they can't, then they'll
Speaker 1: owe him thirty sets of clothing. So the Philistines take
Speaker 1: the bed and Samson delivers the riddle, which was this,
Speaker 1: out of the eater, something to eat, out of the strong,
Speaker 1: something sweet. Right, So the Philistines, they they rack their
Speaker 1: brains all week, but they cannot figure out the answer
Speaker 1: to this thing. And at lasts they are so desperate
Speaker 1: they go to Samson's new wife and they beg her.
Speaker 1: They beg her to find out the answer for them,
Speaker 1: so she does, and Samson eventually tells her that the
Speaker 1: answer is the lion he found on the side of
Speaker 1: the road, which, first of all, like what a weird,
Speaker 1: dumb riddle, Like it doesn't to get thirty pairs of
Speaker 1: clothes or whatever, But it really doesn't feel fair. How
Speaker 1: are they supposed to know that, like there's some magical
Speaker 1: honey dripping corpse out there. I mean, that's a fair point.
Speaker 1: But the guy needed thirty new pairs of clothes, I think,
Speaker 1: so he couldn't couldn't take any risk, And maybe Sampson
Speaker 1: suspected that they had cheated to get the answer, because
Speaker 1: the way he chose to pay the bet was more
Speaker 1: than a little bit hostile, Like he went out and
Speaker 1: actually struck down, so he presumably killed thirty Philistines. Then
Speaker 1: he stripped them and gave their clothes to the people
Speaker 1: who had answered the riddle. I mean, that is harsh,
Speaker 1: but at least he honored the bet. He did. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was a man of his word. He did, he did,
Speaker 1: he did, and he didn't kill the people who cheated.
Speaker 1: Actually he killed thirty other Philistine to teach them a lesson.
Speaker 1: You know that really really teaches you a lesson when
Speaker 1: we do things like that. And so to make the
Speaker 1: whole thing even weirder, after all this happened, the bride's
Speaker 1: father took his daughter gave her in marriage to somebody else,
Speaker 1: so the whole thing was actually for nothing, Like they
Speaker 1: didn't even stay married. That is such a mess. I
Speaker 1: love that story. I can't believe they left that out
Speaker 1: of Sunday School. But on the whole though, I'd have
Speaker 1: to say the Philistines did eventually get the last laugh,
Speaker 1: because my third fact is that they actually helped plunge
Speaker 1: the ancient world into a two hundred year Dark Age,
Speaker 1: And I know that doesn't cast them in the best light,
Speaker 1: but hear me out, because the ancient world kind of
Speaker 1: had it coming. So beginning around twelve d b c e.
Speaker 1: Prosperous empires like Greece, Egypt, and Canaan they began to
Speaker 1: fall apart, and historians think the Philistines are partly to
Speaker 1: blame for that. They were located at the center of
Speaker 1: a vast trading hub, which made it see for them
Speaker 1: to raid their neighbors ships and you know, disrupt the
Speaker 1: trade system. And in particular, the Philistines were able to
Speaker 1: cut off the supply of tin that Mediterranean nations relied
Speaker 1: on for making bronze. And you know, there were other
Speaker 1: factors at play to like a string of bad weather
Speaker 1: and disease, but the so called collapse of the Bronze
Speaker 1: Age had a lot to do with Philistine raiders kind
Speaker 1: of throwing a wrench in the tin trade. And you know,
Speaker 1: the world was forced to switch from bronze to iron
Speaker 1: at that point, and the Philistines who caused the shift
Speaker 1: were quietly absorbed it, you know, into the surviving nations.
Speaker 1: And I guess that they got to go out with
Speaker 1: a bang and and took everybody else down with them
Speaker 1: in the course of that. But that's that's an interesting
Speaker 1: way to go. Yeah, I mean it was probably payback
Speaker 1: for everyone calling them Philistines all the time, right, you
Speaker 1: know that that and you know the hemorrhoids. That hemorrhoids.
Speaker 1: I was going to say the hemorrhoids pretty rough. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that last fact was sunny enough game,
Speaker 1: but but I did love your Nintendo game fact so much.
Speaker 1: Of all the Nintendo games out there, the fact that
Speaker 1: you had one based on the Bible is amazing to me.
Speaker 1: And I think it's not just great that you told
Speaker 1: us about it, but that you're telling the world about
Speaker 1: it on this podcast. So I think you deserved the trophy.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I'm actually sitting here on eBay trying
Speaker 1: to see if I can find a copy of this
Speaker 1: uh game. Of course, now I'm going to have to
Speaker 1: find the Nintendo as well. But it's worth it for whatever.
Speaker 1: It's a few hundred dollar investment, but yeah, well worth
Speaker 1: worth it. So I think that's gonna do it for
Speaker 1: today's part time Gudius. Thank you everyone who sent in
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Speaker 1: They're gonna win six dollars? Now we're splitting it, so
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Speaker 1: each of Mango and me. It's six total. Three depending
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