Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shots
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and here we are. Yes, finally, it's
Speaker 1: a Victory Monday edition shot of mix shots. And I
Speaker 1: am Bill Jones, he is Everson Walls, and he is
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola And Everson, who did you pick to win
Speaker 1: the game on Sundall that? Man, you know how it goes.
Speaker 1: Anytime the Cowboys win, I'm gonna take credit for it.
Speaker 1: You know. I woke up early this morning and no hangover.
Speaker 1: I felt good. I didn't have to drink myself to
Speaker 1: sleep last night. It seemed like everything involved with the
Speaker 1: Cowboy world was good. Jason Witt called a touchdown day.
Speaker 1: I'm taking credit for that. Bryant called Bryant classon pass.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bill. I mean, look at the NFC East.
Speaker 1: I think three of the fourteens actually all one game
Speaker 1: winning street in the FCST. So come on, man, everything
Speaker 1: is back with the world. Ceedee Lamb. Best catch of
Speaker 1: the Year, bar Nuns I love it, man, I love
Speaker 1: and uh So Everson picked the Cowboys to win. I
Speaker 1: picked the Cowboys to win, and Mickey Spagnola, what did
Speaker 1: you do on Friday? I was precluded from picking them
Speaker 1: to win because I said I wouldn't pick them to
Speaker 1: win until they won two straight. So I got I
Speaker 1: got to pick them to lose on Thanksgiving. Have you noticed, though,
Speaker 1: when I start picking them to lose, their play has
Speaker 1: picked up week by week by week, right, yes, it has.
Speaker 1: I think have we discovered the key here? The defense
Speaker 1: is offended by your gall the fact that you have
Speaker 1: the goal to pick against. They were. They were so
Speaker 1: offended they gave up four hundred and thirty yards and
Speaker 1: twenty eight points. What did I tell you, SPACs? It's
Speaker 1: all about situations. Right when it came down to it,
Speaker 1: the last drive, the Cowboys were battened a thousand Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins didn't know what hit him. We finally came to
Speaker 1: play that last drive of the game. Defense they had
Speaker 1: already settled in finally with two minutes left to go
Speaker 1: in the game. Actually it was the last two drives
Speaker 1: because the time to drive before they got the ball
Speaker 1: back for the offense with four minutes to go to
Speaker 1: drive down for what turned out to be the winning touchdown,
Speaker 1: and then with a minute thirty seven left, I believe
Speaker 1: it was, they actually closed the game for a change,
Speaker 1: which is something they haven't been doing so far this year,
Speaker 1: or by the way, not many times last year either.
Speaker 1: But they ended up getting a four and so yeah,
Speaker 1: but when we win, it is it is such a
Speaker 1: good It's like the sun is shining brighter all of
Speaker 1: a sudden. Nationally, we're back on the national stage in
Speaker 1: a positive level. On a positive level, we got a
Speaker 1: chance to play for first place in less than four days.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, life is good. You know, the best,
Speaker 1: the best news of all. We're on that national stage,
Speaker 1: and we get Joe Buck and Troy Aikman calling the
Speaker 1: game on third on this Thursday and the following Thursday too.
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying throughout the game. No matter
Speaker 1: how it turned out, at least we're getting Bucking Aikman
Speaker 1: the next two games. We didn't. They didn't even manage
Speaker 1: to get DJ in that game. You got you got promoted. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about Moose. Yeah he got promoted.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, now's we're
Speaker 1: gonna see him. We're back. That's all we needed, was right.
Speaker 1: That's right. So here we are on a victory Monday,
Speaker 1: and there's so much to talk about. We need more
Speaker 1: than forty five minutes. Mickey, where would you like to start?
Speaker 1: You already kind of started on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the football. But you know, the other thing that is
Speaker 1: remarkable is how much different things play out strategically when
Speaker 1: you actually get a lead in the first half of
Speaker 1: a game. Bar have a seasoned veteran playing quarterback for
Speaker 1: you that you actually uh protected at a decent rate.
Speaker 1: For a change, I thought that they were able to
Speaker 1: open up the playbook be much more multiple on offense. Uh.
Speaker 1: The offensive line uh performed probably the best it's performed
Speaker 1: in weeks. And everybody's gonna say, well, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the move they finally moved Zach Martin to write tackle. Well,
Speaker 1: they moved Zach Martin to right tackle when they felt
Speaker 1: comfortable with Connor McGovern playing right guard. H And that
Speaker 1: was the key to that. Uh. Listening to Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: this morning on his radio segment, when they asked him
Speaker 1: about to move, his first response was, yeah, Connor McGovern
Speaker 1: has been getting better and better and better and felt
Speaker 1: like he can handle right guard. So that allowed them
Speaker 1: to kick Martin out to write tackle. I think that
Speaker 1: was key. H And as an offensive line they played
Speaker 1: much better. I think what Dalton was sacked just twice
Speaker 1: twice or once in the game. Yeah, and that was
Speaker 1: his fault because he hung onto the ball far too long.
Speaker 1: But other than that, the protection is good and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: Zeke woke up. Yeah, Zeke woke up. The offensive line
Speaker 1: block better. Uh They all of a sudden, the opposing
Speaker 1: team had to worry about the run. They ran for
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty yards. You know that kind of
Speaker 1: got lost in the shuffle. They ran on the team
Speaker 1: that runs. Uh so, I just him one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty two. I think it was one hundred and forty,
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five. Uh so I and I
Speaker 1: thought Mike McCarthy and and Ceedee Lamb hit the nail
Speaker 1: on the head. McCarthy kept talking about how what a
Speaker 1: team win it was, and Ceedee Lamb said the game
Speaker 1: of football is complimentary play, and he meant offense defense
Speaker 1: special teams when the when the offense scores, defenses got
Speaker 1: to pick up or when they don't score. And how
Speaker 1: about this, They got takeaways and actually scored after both
Speaker 1: a touchdown and a field goal, which is something they
Speaker 1: had kept previously right, and that touchdown on after the
Speaker 1: first fumble recovery, it was a thirty yard drive. It
Speaker 1: was the shortest drive all season long for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Prior to that, they had no drives left than sixty
Speaker 1: five yards for a touchdown. So they complimented each other.
Speaker 1: And then you get a great play like you got
Speaker 1: from CD Lamb, and like I said, you got professional
Speaker 1: quarterback play finally at the quarterback position since Dak went
Speaker 1: out and all of a sudden, you look up and
Speaker 1: you go, oh, gotta win. Scored thirty one points. How
Speaker 1: about that the most points they scored since what the
Speaker 1: Giants game? And actually the most touchdowns they scored since
Speaker 1: they matched it the Giants game. And they scored more
Speaker 1: touchdowns in one game than they had totaled in the
Speaker 1: last three. Wow. And you know, when you look at
Speaker 1: their game, guys, what I liked about it was, yes,
Speaker 1: the defense they played loosely so to speak, but there
Speaker 1: were no quick points. There were no quick drives, quick
Speaker 1: a quick scoring opportunity, and when this isn't taken advantage
Speaker 1: of about the offense, that kind of demoralizes your defense.
Speaker 1: And I like the way we hung in there on
Speaker 1: every drive. Yes, we gave up some rushing yards, and
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, was I the smartest person in the
Speaker 1: world last week when I said Kirk Cousins was gonna
Speaker 1: have a Harbor game. This guy comes out was twenty five.
Speaker 1: He was killing it three touchdowns and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the heck is going on? And yet even with that,
Speaker 1: we were still able to defensively, How could I put it?
Speaker 1: We didn't just lay down. There's something to be said
Speaker 1: of resistance. I enjoyed watching the defiance by our defense
Speaker 1: on the goal line. Yes they scored, but it took
Speaker 1: him a minute. And boy, you're talking about somebody bringing
Speaker 1: the hat with him? Is it Donovan Wilson? I always
Speaker 1: get this guy's name messed up. Donovan Wilson was bringing
Speaker 1: his hat to work on Sunday. I loved that physicality because, yes,
Speaker 1: Cook was still getting his yards, but we were very
Speaker 1: active defensively, and anything that Minnesota was able to accomplish
Speaker 1: in that game, they had to earn it and to me.
Speaker 1: I can take that for a defense. I know we're
Speaker 1: not necessarily that talented on defense, especially in our secondary,
Speaker 1: but those guys for a tooth and nail was just
Speaker 1: a couple of technique issues in our secondary. This is
Speaker 1: something that just has always bothered me with our secondary.
Speaker 1: Tom Landry had the flex defense, which I hated because
Speaker 1: it it is not a defensive backs friend. But the
Speaker 1: best tip you could give for the flex defense because
Speaker 1: it plays against the run and they're getting you ready
Speaker 1: for the play action pass. That's what the flex defense
Speaker 1: is all about. It gets you ready for the play action.
Speaker 1: The cornerbacks in a play action pass must be deep
Speaker 1: and inside shoulder coverage. We have never talked about this, guys.
Speaker 1: That's why our defensive backs in the eighties would give
Speaker 1: up sidelines because it was by design. If you give
Speaker 1: up a sideline, you can live to play another day.
Speaker 1: If you give up the inside of the field, you
Speaker 1: can go all the way for a touchdown with any
Speaker 1: slant or inside route. For some reason, technically speaking, we
Speaker 1: do not have our defensive backs play inside. You must
Speaker 1: play inside on the blitz, and especially on a play
Speaker 1: action pass. That's where you're going to get hurt, and
Speaker 1: you've seen it all year long. I don't know why
Speaker 1: no one makes the adjustment. You get a yawn inside
Speaker 1: if you have to, but just make sure that this
Speaker 1: guy doesn't run all the way across the field. Well,
Speaker 1: no one is there to help you. But even with
Speaker 1: all of that, we hung in there. Of course we've
Speaker 1: been going to give up some plays, but we hung
Speaker 1: in there just long enough to allow the offense to
Speaker 1: control the ball game with Zeke, Elliott and Pollo. Great win,
Speaker 1: textbook win. For me, it was all facets of the game,
Speaker 1: you know. There for a little bit. They were long
Speaker 1: drives that the Vikings put together to start the third quarters,
Speaker 1: in fact, three in a row, three touchdown drives. But
Speaker 1: they seem to be getting quicker as we went held
Speaker 1: long and I was like, okay, we're reverting back here
Speaker 1: to what we've seen too much in the past. And
Speaker 1: then finally they got the stop which gave the offense
Speaker 1: a chance. But I mean, then you look at the
Speaker 1: third quarter and the Cowboys. How many plays the Cowboys
Speaker 1: run in the third quarter like sixth place to twenty
Speaker 1: for the Vikings, Yeah, third quarter, you know, and they
Speaker 1: had the quick Uh what I seventy five yard five
Speaker 1: play drive that resulted in the Justin Jefferson touchdown after
Speaker 1: the Tony Pollard touchdown run that gave the Cowboys the league.
Speaker 1: So back and forth we go in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and uh, and then it came down to crunch time
Speaker 1: in the final four minutes. Offense came through, defense came through,
Speaker 1: and we walk away. Uh. Sitting here on a Monday, uh,
Speaker 1: a half game out of first place in a division
Speaker 1: that has four teams with three wins ten games into
Speaker 1: the season. Not for long baby, and four wins coming
Speaker 1: up and playing coming place on Thanksgiving Day against them
Speaker 1: Redskins against that football Washington's the Washington I did, I
Speaker 1: did look it up. They've played They've played the Washington
Speaker 1: football team nine times on Thanksgiving and one eight of them.
Speaker 1: M and I was notable was the Drew Pearson guy.
Speaker 1: What was the quarterback's name? I'm getting old Bill, Come on,
Speaker 1: come on to Drew Pierson. That's one of the best
Speaker 1: Thanksgivings ever. So here we go with another one. All right, funny,
Speaker 1: you got a couple of minutes the funny, funny story
Speaker 1: about that funny story about that game. Uh. So it
Speaker 1: was the night before the Cowboys played Washington. It might
Speaker 1: have been a Sunday night game or Monday night game,
Speaker 1: and was having an after dinner drink in Georgetown, and uh,
Speaker 1: some guys start talking with us, found out what we did,
Speaker 1: and uh, he said, yeah, he goes that that that
Speaker 1: Clinton Longley guy, he spoiled my Thanksgiving. He goes, I
Speaker 1: got to my stomach and I didn't even eat Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: meal because of that guy. And he goes and I'm
Speaker 1: still mad at this has got to be thirty years later,
Speaker 1: right that the guy was still upset about Clint Longley's
Speaker 1: replacing starback after he suffered the concussion and came to Uh,
Speaker 1: what was it the victory of the victory Uncluttered Mind
Speaker 1: or something like the Uncluttered Mind? Yeah, yeah, yeah, triumph
Speaker 1: it was, Wayne and I described it, Yeah, Triumph of
Speaker 1: the Uncluttered Mind. Yeah. It's been thirty years, and Roger
Speaker 1: and Clint probably still don't like each other either. You
Speaker 1: know what it's been ever since, it's been forty six years.
Speaker 1: Forty six years. I can't forget how old I am,
Speaker 1: But well we're here to remind each other how old
Speaker 1: we are. Yes, only all mixed shots yeah, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's so much to get to, and we only have
Speaker 1: about a minute or so left in this first segment.
Speaker 1: Let's line up what do we want to get to
Speaker 1: over the next half hour. We're not getting to it yet,
Speaker 1: but Mickey, what do we want to get to over
Speaker 1: the next half hour? On mix shots? I think Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb is at the top of the list for me, right,
Speaker 1: and then uh Andy Dalton uh has to be. I
Speaker 1: think uh their ability to run the football with Zeke
Speaker 1: and Pollard. Uh. And I think we got to pay
Speaker 1: some respects to Layton Vanderish and see how much that
Speaker 1: defense on the field. It's amazing. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: well you can you had all three linebackers, right, Everson? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I have, sir, clearly I had. I had Layton
Speaker 1: Highway number one on the list. Okay, we continue with
Speaker 1: more mix shots. So much to get to and we
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Speaker 1: here after winning over Cincinnati on Sunday to improve to
Speaker 1: three and seven themselves, and they knocked Joe Burrow, a
Speaker 1: number one overall pick out for the season now with
Speaker 1: a torn acl that was a brutal hit to see.
Speaker 1: You know, It's every week you'll seeing players go down
Speaker 1: all across the league, and it really shows you what
Speaker 1: a survival of the fittest game this is. And what
Speaker 1: a marathon it is really as well, you know, and
Speaker 1: people will rag on the NFC East and how brutal
Speaker 1: a division it's been, you know, through the first ten
Speaker 1: games of the season, but it is what it is,
Speaker 1: and it's there for the taking the last six games now.
Speaker 1: And so I like the fact that we're sitting here
Speaker 1: with with some tangible games, meaningful games to play, and
Speaker 1: a couple of them here in the span of a
Speaker 1: week's time from Thursday to Thursday against Washington in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: where we're going to figure out a lot more about
Speaker 1: this football team and how it is currently constituted, because
Speaker 1: it's obviously this Cowboys team is a different team than
Speaker 1: what it was two months ago. You know, Bill, You're
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. When you get Andy Dalton back on
Speaker 1: the field, you get an offensive line that maybe I
Speaker 1: don't want to jinx them, but might start the same
Speaker 1: five guys two weeks in a row. If all goes
Speaker 1: well between now and Thursday, you're seeing a little bit
Speaker 1: better play there. You get the running game going, it
Speaker 1: gets the passing game going. Uh. It's just as as
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb said, complementary football. Uh and and and the
Speaker 1: defense as Everson said, they may have given up the point,
Speaker 1: given up the points, given up the yards, but they
Speaker 1: made plays and that's what this game of football is about.
Speaker 1: You've got to make plays. And they made some plays
Speaker 1: for a change and made life tough on a Vikings
Speaker 1: team that had won three consecutive games, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: it goes back to my my theory, right, the more
Speaker 1: the more you lose in a row, the closer you're
Speaker 1: out of winning. And the more you win in a row,
Speaker 1: the closer you're out of losing. That's why it's tough
Speaker 1: for me to see Pittsburgh at ten and old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on them to lose because I mean, they
Speaker 1: had a chance to lose here in Dallas. And you know,
Speaker 1: one other thing about this win, guys, I didn't even
Speaker 1: really realize it until I'm sitting there because the field,
Speaker 1: you know, it looked good. It looked like our field
Speaker 1: in Arlington. We played as if we were at home,
Speaker 1: you know. And I get it that the crowd is
Speaker 1: different now because the pandemic and all of that, but
Speaker 1: you know, there's still a familiarity with whatever stadium you
Speaker 1: go into, and the Cowboys played very comfortably. You never
Speaker 1: saw them in a panic situation. Even though the defense
Speaker 1: was giving up some plays, they made some two turnovers
Speaker 1: made a difference in this ball game. And when we
Speaker 1: talk about all the things that we may have done wrong,
Speaker 1: Spags during the break, you talked about not having a linebacker.
Speaker 1: The three linebackers in the game, you've got the defensive
Speaker 1: man trying to guard one or two very accomplished tight
Speaker 1: ends and who were having a great game at that time.
Speaker 1: We did so many things I think to beat ourselves,
Speaker 1: but yet we would not allow ourselves to do it,
Speaker 1: because the pace of the game was ours to control.
Speaker 1: And we came out doing that on the the initial
Speaker 1: drive and without with a stall in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: We continued that train the thought defensively and offensively. And Bill,
Speaker 1: you know, I was I was mentioning having Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: back on the field, and by no means was he perfect. Uh.
Speaker 1: He had a couple throws that I'm sure he wanted back.
Speaker 1: The interception. Yeah, you know, if he just leads the guy, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a big play. He had another
Speaker 1: play to Dalton shows that he was wide open and
Speaker 1: he went somewhere else with the ball. Uh. And and
Speaker 1: I think he and he missed Cdee Lamb on what
Speaker 1: would have been a touchdown. But but other than that,
Speaker 1: right even the ball was in the air, I started
Speaker 1: moaning watching it because I could see it's like, I said,
Speaker 1: you missed him? What are you doing? Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like And then there was the most fantastic catch. I
Speaker 1: don't think I've seen a guy contort his body the
Speaker 1: way he did and twist himself back from catching the
Speaker 1: like he was going to catch the ball over his
Speaker 1: left shoulder to have to adjust and do a one
Speaker 1: eighty and turn around to the right shoulder and falling backwards,
Speaker 1: yet still have enough height to go up and get
Speaker 1: the ball. And then he hung on and the hands
Speaker 1: and the hands to hang on as he hit the ground.
Speaker 1: The only other catch out seemed like that is the
Speaker 1: ob j K against us, which was in Today's the
Speaker 1: anniversary Today's the anniversary of that catch. Wow. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: And that was more amazing because it was a deeper
Speaker 1: pass and of course harder to judge, and Brandon Carr
Speaker 1: was all over him, just like the dB was all
Speaker 1: over Cede Lamb. So except you know what, go back
Speaker 1: the same impact ever since you go back and look
Speaker 1: at that O. B J ketch like I did today,
Speaker 1: and you can make a case of a little offensive
Speaker 1: PI there on Beckham is you know, Brandon Carr wound
Speaker 1: up on his backside and you know, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it should have been called, but you could make the
Speaker 1: they he kind of caught his arm and that's why
Speaker 1: Carr went flailing on the play. Yeah, yeah, and so
Speaker 1: it was a fight. It was a fight, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't have been called, but yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: But but I'm with you. When Mickey was talking about
Speaker 1: what CD did on this catch, Odell did the same
Speaker 1: kind of stuff on that catch to make it and
Speaker 1: this one, I mean, you can just see what hens
Speaker 1: that CD has because as you mentioned Everson, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's hitting the ground at the same time he has
Speaker 1: got to hold onto that football, and the jarring collision
Speaker 1: with the ground would be enough to separate a lot
Speaker 1: of people unless you got some really strong hands, which
Speaker 1: CD obviously does, all right, and I mean we got
Speaker 1: we got other people with eighty eighths that we've had
Speaker 1: on this squad, But that catch right there reminded me
Speaker 1: of Deaz more than anybody else. We've had some great
Speaker 1: eighty eighths on this team, but that play with the
Speaker 1: physicality and just it's like Dennis Robin going for a rebound.
Speaker 1: That's a fifty fifty ball. I want this and it's mine.
Speaker 1: That to me, that just shows how good you've always
Speaker 1: talked about in the bill. Ceedee Lamb's the man. He
Speaker 1: is the man. Well, I've been watching him since he
Speaker 1: was a freshman at Ou and back then everyone was
Speaker 1: talking about Marquise Hollywood Brown. Take nothing away from him,
Speaker 1: but I thought, I said, you know, Brown came out
Speaker 1: and he was a first round draft pick of the Ravens,
Speaker 1: and I was telling people, you ate this, Cede Lamb
Speaker 1: is better than him, and you know, and the other thing,
Speaker 1: you know, And then he said his moments this season
Speaker 1: already where there's been some rookie stuff, you know, or
Speaker 1: dropped past and whatever. So he's gonna have and all
Speaker 1: receivers are going to have moments like that. But this
Speaker 1: is a game that the Cowboys really needed to have,
Speaker 1: and he stepped up not only with that play, but
Speaker 1: in other ways. They were able to use him in
Speaker 1: the run game, the two point conversion run and that
Speaker 1: you know two carries for twelve yards and his physicality
Speaker 1: that he plays with. I texted a friend then I said,
Speaker 1: take nothing away from Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup, but
Speaker 1: I think CD's the best receiver on this team. I
Speaker 1: mean at the at the snap, at the snap, I'm
Speaker 1: looking to see where is Lamb lining up and because
Speaker 1: I want to watch him, and Bill on a side
Speaker 1: note on him. So that was his second catch in
Speaker 1: the game. That catch tied Bob Hayes single season record
Speaker 1: for a rookie at forty six, and then he went
Speaker 1: on and caught two more in the game and broke
Speaker 1: the record ten games in Remember Bob was playing I
Speaker 1: guess fourteen games at that point when he set the
Speaker 1: record at forty six. But this kid, in ten games
Speaker 1: has broken the record. H He has forty eight catches now.
Speaker 1: So just a little hysterically one of them guys. One
Speaker 1: other thing about him six passes as a rookie in
Speaker 1: Tom Landry's offense. That's saying a lot as well. That's
Speaker 1: saying a lot about bullet Bob hay is the fact
Speaker 1: that Tom Landry will throw it to a rookie that
Speaker 1: many times in a in an era of football that
Speaker 1: wasn't pass happy the way we are right now. That's
Speaker 1: probably I wonder what his yards for catchwor get him
Speaker 1: been merriedth probably didn't get a last one other one
Speaker 1: other note on the CD that I love about him
Speaker 1: so much is he is so tough. I mean he
Speaker 1: he will take a hit and he'll can it doesn't
Speaker 1: phase him, and he will deliver hits. I mean he
Speaker 1: is such a tough physical receiver. I mean, you mentioned
Speaker 1: Bryan and does has that same some of those same qualities.
Speaker 1: But Michael Irvin another eighty eight. Uh, you know, CD's
Speaker 1: got the same kind of toughness that Irvin had. And Bill,
Speaker 1: did you see what he did when he scored on
Speaker 1: the two point conversion? He stopped immediately in the end zone,
Speaker 1: threw the ball, the referee turned around and went back
Speaker 1: to the bench. He's a lot maturer than Time to
Speaker 1: go to work. Yeah, we got work to do here.
Speaker 1: It's time to work, that's right, No no celebrations. We
Speaker 1: got more work to do. That's what I liked about
Speaker 1: the whole attitude. That was the attitude about the entire
Speaker 1: team defensively and offensively. Nothing's gonna be perfect, and they
Speaker 1: have to win every game like this. Now, you know
Speaker 1: you can't just say and we you know I've said
Speaker 1: it earlier, the three facets of the game. We have
Speaker 1: to have all facts of this game. And that's the
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of a good team. I love teams
Speaker 1: like that, to where your special team's coach he wants
Speaker 1: some of his glory, your offensive coordinator wants blood. By
Speaker 1: the way, keller More did a great job with some
Speaker 1: of a play calling yesterday and two book versions. Hell
Speaker 1: of a play. You know. I was a little disappointed
Speaker 1: that coach McCarthy decided to go for the field goal
Speaker 1: where we had that fourth down, and I thought there
Speaker 1: was interest. I was a disappointed in that, but otherwise
Speaker 1: I thought the entire game plan was built towards winning,
Speaker 1: and when we did make mistakes, no one lamented on it.
Speaker 1: We came back out and we played That third quarter
Speaker 1: was horrible, and we said forget the third quarter. We
Speaker 1: came out in the fourth quarter and re established ourselves
Speaker 1: to go and win this ball game. So it's the
Speaker 1: resolve of the team that is just as important as
Speaker 1: the game plan that you installed. So let's hope that
Speaker 1: this resolve stays at where it is with this cowboy team.
Speaker 1: And you know, to emphasize your point, ever said they
Speaker 1: had to come from behind three times to be able
Speaker 1: to win this game. And the irony of this whole
Speaker 1: thing is if you remember early in the year and
Speaker 1: I can't remember which game it was, and they got
Speaker 1: accused of quitting, right, and then you got all the
Speaker 1: fans out there wanting them to quit because they want
Speaker 1: a better draft choice. And the dog gone team they
Speaker 1: wouldn't quit. They kept coming back and coming back, and
Speaker 1: they didn't on the road. Let anything that went wrong
Speaker 1: get them down in the dumps. There you go, And um,
Speaker 1: all right, you want to get into Dalton and you
Speaker 1: want to get into the run game. I'll just say
Speaker 1: this about Kellen Moore also, and this is this kind
Speaker 1: of gets us into the run game too. I love
Speaker 1: the play call to Zeke on the touchdown pass to
Speaker 1: start the game with the two tight ends out there
Speaker 1: leading the way him into the end zone too. Yep.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that Zeke. I didn't know Zeke
Speaker 1: had a little option quarterback in him. That was a
Speaker 1: nice little pitch, you know, he froze him in bone.
Speaker 1: That's pretty smooth, easy catch, easy score. I mean, earlier
Speaker 1: in the season we have taken these golden opportunities and
Speaker 1: just turned him into crop. But not this game. And
Speaker 1: that's what you have to have a feeling of optimism. Hey,
Speaker 1: here's another thing, another thing that on the goal line
Speaker 1: on the setting up the touchdown pass to Schultz, he
Speaker 1: remember the play before that, CD came in motion to
Speaker 1: the deep, you know, angling back behind the running backs
Speaker 1: in the backfield, and I believe it, Jonathan Vilma said
Speaker 1: on the broadcast. He didn't understand why they took Lamb
Speaker 1: out of a play like that. I don't even remember
Speaker 1: the play myself right now, But what I did think
Speaker 1: of after that is, and ever since, you can tell
Speaker 1: me better, all right, the reasons for putting a receiver
Speaker 1: in motion like that. You're able to see what the
Speaker 1: defense is doing and where they're in man's own whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. I'm wondering if that motion on that
Speaker 1: play set up in any way, what went on on
Speaker 1: what turned out to be the touchdown pass to Schultz
Speaker 1: on the very next play. I'm not I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was almost like they were setting up. They want
Speaker 1: first of all, they want to create the misdirection after
Speaker 1: the snap. I mean, if he's to go in motion,
Speaker 1: then of course all eyes are gonna go that way.
Speaker 1: But and then they brought it back to the other side,
Speaker 1: so total misdirection. But they saw that the misdirection was
Speaker 1: going to work because the motion did create the pre
Speaker 1: snap read or anytime you go on motion and you
Speaker 1: don't do anything with that wide receiver. He was just
Speaker 1: like what you call a catalyst to the rest of
Speaker 1: the play itself. He determined who they were going to
Speaker 1: go to once they created that misdirection. And speaking the Scholts,
Speaker 1: this guy's been having a tough year. He's really been
Speaker 1: having a tough year. He had to blocking well. You
Speaker 1: can kind of see the frustration even when he makes
Speaker 1: catches on plays. His brain and his feet didn't seem
Speaker 1: to be going together all year long. And he's really
Speaker 1: put us in some tough situations. And I was very
Speaker 1: critical at of him a couple of times on Twitter,
Speaker 1: but I must say he came out of his shell yesterday.
Speaker 1: He played well, and I'm glad the Cowboys gave him
Speaker 1: an opportunity to make plays because he could be a
Speaker 1: great outlet for us when CD's not ready, when Coop
Speaker 1: and the guys may be getting double team gallop. You know,
Speaker 1: didn't have the best game. Dalton Schultz is a great
Speaker 1: option for us, not only a safe option, but extremely
Speaker 1: effective in certain parts of the field. But I guess
Speaker 1: it's a great point Everson. As we go to break here,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm wondering what I would like to find
Speaker 1: out is like on that previous play, whether whether Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore saw something thing that they were doing defensively that
Speaker 1: helped him know that the touchdown play was gonna work
Speaker 1: by putting lamb in motion on the previous play. So
Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to learn that. All Right, we got
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Speaker 1: Mix Shots. So much to get to. We started to
Speaker 1: touch on it a little bit on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball and the linebackers, as Everson had his
Speaker 1: picks to click with the linebacking corps with a special
Speaker 1: emphasis on Layton, vand H. That's what he said on Friday.
Speaker 1: My guy was Sean Lee. I said, if if they'll
Speaker 1: play him, he'll be the pick to click. Sure enough,
Speaker 1: in the first half of that game, Shan Lee comes
Speaker 1: into the game. And let's see. He came in on
Speaker 1: the third series and after an initial twenty seven yard
Speaker 1: passed to Justin Jefferson on the first play. It was
Speaker 1: three and out for the Vikings offense, and then they
Speaker 1: get the ball back and Shawn Lee was in for
Speaker 1: Jalen on that series, and then vander Esh was out.
Speaker 1: The next series, Shawan Lee was in and there was
Speaker 1: a three and out and that's all we got out
Speaker 1: of Sean Lee in the first half of that game.
Speaker 1: Can you sound like you're trying to make a case.
Speaker 1: Sound like he's trying to make a case for Shawn
Speaker 1: Lee over my pick to click. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just signing that checker. Oh no, Jack vander Esh
Speaker 1: obviously he deserves with with all he did in that game.
Speaker 1: But I would like to see more Sean Lee. Did
Speaker 1: you explain about like he made on delf and Kill Love?
Speaker 1: I love more hits like he made on Delphin Cook
Speaker 1: kind of readjusted that face mask a little bit. They
Speaker 1: had to change helmets for Delvin Cook the goal line
Speaker 1: on the goal line, and once again, the stubbornness that
Speaker 1: they exhibited was amazing to me. Of course, they ended
Speaker 1: up still scoring, but you want to I hate it
Speaker 1: when the running back just goes into the end zone
Speaker 1: untouched on the goal line. Delvin Cook was touched and
Speaker 1: he was touched about three or four times, and he
Speaker 1: had to really work hard for it. And Sean Lee
Speaker 1: was one of those guys that was in there creating
Speaker 1: that resistance. I do like having all three linebackers in
Speaker 1: the ball game, and Spags, I want you to speak
Speaker 1: on this. They had a defensive end trying to cover
Speaker 1: a tight end. Man, this is killing me. I don't
Speaker 1: understand that part of the game plan. To me, it bowled.
Speaker 1: It was more in the in the in the realm
Speaker 1: of things you do when you lose. You know that
Speaker 1: you make when you lose. You should have been here.
Speaker 1: It's like he tried to cover the tight end the
Speaker 1: one play. I swear to god it was either the
Speaker 1: next player or the next two plays later they had
Speaker 1: him going out there trying to cover the running back.
Speaker 1: And I know these guys here got tired of me
Speaker 1: because I kept pointing out right. And then when that
Speaker 1: play happened, all I kept going was why why, I
Speaker 1: just why can't you put a strong side out there
Speaker 1: when we have the personnel. I don't go. You guys
Speaker 1: are gonna have to talk to you. Guys have to
Speaker 1: talk to Mike Nolan and ask him what is his
Speaker 1: pet peeve with three linebackers in the ball game, especially,
Speaker 1: you have decent athletic linebackers. I get upset at them
Speaker 1: sometimes on the lack of the run support. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to the pass, if you could just play
Speaker 1: a nice zone, I think you could be a little
Speaker 1: bit more effective with those three linebackers, because we're doing
Speaker 1: pretty well affront at this point. Sometimes you get a
Speaker 1: little tedious. You don't wanted to get the guys in there,
Speaker 1: but they were putting enough pressure on Kirk Cousins to
Speaker 1: where he had to get rid of it quickly. Give
Speaker 1: me some good linebackers back there when it's time. Maybe
Speaker 1: Delvin Cook would stop slicing dicen Us a little bit
Speaker 1: and then we could have a little bit more staunch
Speaker 1: run support. But for some reason, he loved having the
Speaker 1: big defensive end in there and set in the edge,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't working well. And you saw in the
Speaker 1: Raiders Chiefs game last night, the Whitten touchdown. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: had a big old defensive end, Garden Whitton out there,
Speaker 1: and he's thirty nine year old Jason Whitten, who Jason
Speaker 1: was shaking him down. Yeah, defensive ends couldn't keep up
Speaker 1: with him. Jason probably felt like, man, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm twenty three all over again. I'm shaking people down
Speaker 1: getting open in the end zone. Good to see him
Speaker 1: with that touchdown. But you see how futile the effort
Speaker 1: is to put a defensive end in such a compromising position.
Speaker 1: It's not fair to the defensive end himselves. It's just
Speaker 1: a very try. Can you imagine Witton if he was
Speaker 1: here in practice and they put Duran's armstrong on him,
Speaker 1: you know he can play another three years here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I try. He's sitting there here, played him fifty. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna do this, he would have stormed into the
Speaker 1: defensive meeting and going, what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1: And see the thing I'd like to move on to
Speaker 1: the Donovan Wilson are giving up the touchdowns fast because
Speaker 1: you talked about it. There you go, go for it,
Speaker 1: go for it. I played safety with the Giants a
Speaker 1: little bit on third downs, and one thing I learned
Speaker 1: by through Bill Belichick is giving a receiver free release
Speaker 1: down the field can be very dangerous to your secondary
Speaker 1: and especially to your deep safety. If you're safe, no
Speaker 1: matter where you are, and Spags made to make the
Speaker 1: point to say that Donovan Wilson lined up too close
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage to be covering, to be
Speaker 1: deep on that play. Well, no matter what happens on
Speaker 1: that play, you create your own isolated man to man's
Speaker 1: situation as a safety. First of all, if someone doesn't
Speaker 1: get a hand on that receiver, because otherwise he's gonna
Speaker 1: close that gap on that safety and you're you're in
Speaker 1: no man's land. You can't turn your hips fast enough,
Speaker 1: and you are at that receiver's mercy. So to me,
Speaker 1: there's a flaw both ways. You have to get a
Speaker 1: hand on that receiver that's coming from the system itself.
Speaker 1: And as a as a safety, you have to be
Speaker 1: prepared when you've got a dynamic receiver coming at you.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're ten yards deep. If he
Speaker 1: comes with a free release, he's gonna close that gap
Speaker 1: on you. And it's just like being a cornerback. You
Speaker 1: have no help anywhere. I know that feeling. It doesn't
Speaker 1: bode well for you, and it didn't bode well for
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson. He's gonna get beat on that play because
Speaker 1: he has nowhere to look for help. I don't care.
Speaker 1: If the guy runs a post, he's gonna beat you.
Speaker 1: If the guy was a post corner, he's gonna beat you.
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, he ran the post corner,
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson was isolated, and it was one of the negatives,
Speaker 1: one of the few negatives that Donovan Wilson had in
Speaker 1: that ball game. I thought, justin Jefferson there for a
Speaker 1: second thought. He was playing against Oklahoma in that bowl
Speaker 1: game last Yeah, that was a really easy It's really
Speaker 1: easy player. It's as easy as that. But see, like
Speaker 1: I said, that was another case where they're in two
Speaker 1: wide receivers and a fullback and a tight end, and
Speaker 1: you played a five man front, and you brought your
Speaker 1: other safety up into a linebacker spot. And once Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown gets beat off the line of scrimmage, then Wilson's
Speaker 1: got a And I don't know if he saw theland
Speaker 1: cutting across the field and he lost sight of the
Speaker 1: other guy and he didn't have his eyes in the
Speaker 1: right spot. But he's in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: It's a long way to go either way if they're
Speaker 1: gonna throw a deep pass. But again, if if if
Speaker 1: if you had another linebacker there, maybe you put your
Speaker 1: dB back and you got too deep safety instead of
Speaker 1: instead of one. That was the thing I didn't understand.
Speaker 1: But what I did understand was the fact that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys finally ran the football with some authority and again.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, why did it happen? Well, Number one,
Speaker 1: the offensive line played better. Number two, they weren't down
Speaker 1: by twenty five points in the game. They were in
Speaker 1: the ball game, so they could stay with the run.
Speaker 1: And I thought, I thought. Mike McCarthy had an interesting
Speaker 1: comment last week. Someone asked him. I think it was
Speaker 1: on his radio interview. Someone asked him, can you think
Speaker 1: back to calls you wish you had bad? And his
Speaker 1: answer was, you know, you don't after a game wish
Speaker 1: you had calls back because you planned all week for
Speaker 1: that situation to make that call. He goes, what I
Speaker 1: wish I had back was better execution on the play
Speaker 1: I called, And I said, okay, that's good, right, So
Speaker 1: then if you think about it, think about Pollard's And
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Pollard's forty two yard touchdown run. So was it a
Speaker 1: great call or was it great execution because when you
Speaker 1: go back and look at it, Dalton Schotz, who does
Speaker 1: have times trouble holding down to edge, got his guy turned.
Speaker 1: Zack Martin pushed his guy five yards beyond the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, blocked him right out of the play. And
Speaker 1: then you had Noah Brown at wide receiver on the
Speaker 1: right side come and got safe right and to Hod
Speaker 1: and then to help Matters out their cornerback, Jones decided
Speaker 1: to Ola he didn't want any part of making that
Speaker 1: he did this, And it's like, are you kidding me? So,
Speaker 1: and everybody wants to say, see, Pollard needs to have
Speaker 1: more carries. Well, any one of us that had enough
Speaker 1: speed to get through that hole could have ran for
Speaker 1: a touchdown because it was blocked perfectly. And it's amazing
Speaker 1: when you execute the play that's called, how how easily
Speaker 1: it works. And so again it's like, oh, he's got
Speaker 1: to have as many carries as Zeke if people watch
Speaker 1: what Zeke does in a game. To me, it's absolutely
Speaker 1: amazing how he keeps getting four and five yard carries
Speaker 1: when he gets hit at the line of scrimmage. The
Speaker 1: guy's a warrior, Yes, he is a stun. He is
Speaker 1: a stun, and I gotta say God before we go.
Speaker 1: There has to be a change in the secondary coverage.
Speaker 1: I promise you, if you just make the change from
Speaker 1: being outside shoulder to inside shoulder, that could really put
Speaker 1: the defensive back, safety or corner at more of an
Speaker 1: advantage because you won't be getting be inside and these
Speaker 1: guys running all the way across the field creating these
Speaker 1: big plays. Trust me, guys, you gotta be inside strong coverage.
Speaker 1: That's how Thermos Feeds got all of their interceptions. We
Speaker 1: stayed inside and we dare them to try and throw
Speaker 1: it across the field. Okay, I've got it written down.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down the hallway and give him a
Speaker 1: note right now. Please don't tell just don't tell them
Speaker 1: I said it. Don't tell him. I said it. Tell
Speaker 1: them tell him Dion said it. Then they might listen
Speaker 1: to you. But Mickey will be giving it to them
Speaker 1: for the Ravens game, not for the game on Thursday,
Speaker 1: because he has to go through a week's worth of
Speaker 1: COVID testing. More. You can go give him the other
Speaker 1: side of the field. I tried. I tried well to
Speaker 1: it in two games from now, I want to see
Speaker 1: a change. There you go. All right right, We're back
Speaker 1: with Washington's Washington football team tomorrow at one thirty here
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