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Speaker 1: welcome back to you on Purpose, the number one health

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Speaker 1: learn and grow. I am so deeply grateful for our trusted,

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Speaker 1: is someone that I met a few years ago. Now.

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Speaker 1: We've been going back and forth trying to make this

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Speaker 1: selling author, self experimenter, and one of the most wild, crazy, interesting,

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Speaker 1: I don't force anything on her because I know what

431
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Speaker 1: what'll happen if I If I want to give my

432
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 1: wife health advice, I'll tell one of my friends who's

433
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Speaker 1: a doctor. I'll be like text this to Jessa and

434
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: then they text it too of her because because I

435
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: just I just know no, because that's the thing is

436
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: she also does. She wouldn't even know how to download

437
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: a podcast, so that's that's just who she is. So anyways, though,

438
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: so I have the chili pad on my side and

439
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: I can and and my sons both have one too,

440
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: and they love it. We all like so we have

441
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: these big, glorious family dinners at night, and like right

442
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 1: before dinner, all of us boys run upstairs and turn

443
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: on our chili pads so we can sleep better. So

444
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: the bed's already cold when we get into it. Another

445
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: thing that you can do, and it's a little bit paradoxical,

446
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: but it actually works, is you can pull on wool

447
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: socks before you go to bed at night, and when

448
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: your feet are warm, there's these little vessels are called

449
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: anastomosis or something like that, but but it actually allows

450
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: the rest of your body to stay cool when you

451
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 1: warm some of those tiny vessels in the hands and

452
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,239
Speaker 1: the leg. So you think wearing wool socks to bed

453
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: keep you warm, but just like wear wool socks and

454
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: little else and you can actually cool the body with

455
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: that method. Too. Um. And then finally regarding cold, you

456
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: don't mind me just s geeking out at all. No,

457
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. I love I was going non sleep. Sleep

458
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be everybody everyone's sleep. Everyone's gonna try this out, yeah,

459
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, sleep something that everyone's struggling.

460
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's I'm very happy to please geek out.

461
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: So the um, the thing with the the cold is

462
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: that if you do kind of like break the rules,

463
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: because there's all these rules now that all the scientists

464
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: in their institutions have come up with that are annoying us,

465
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: Like you're not supposed to work out hard within three

466
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Speaker 1: hours of bedtime, and you're not supposed to eat a

467
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: heavy meal within three hours prior to bedtime, which for

468
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: me can be socially problematic because I love to have big,

469
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: glorious family dinners with people and go out on the

470
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: town and visit new restaurants. And I mean, how often,

471
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Speaker 1: let's say you're going to bed ten, how often are

472
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: really going to be done with all that, like seven,

473
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Speaker 1: unless you're just like a total I don't know, just

474
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Speaker 1: boring social outcast. Sorry to all the people who aren't

475
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: eating dinner, but basically it's not that hard. You just

476
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: get the body'squartent back down. So if it's the winter

477
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Speaker 1: and I finish a dinner, I'll go for a brisk

478
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: walk outside in the cold weather. And if it is

479
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: the summer or a warmer season, just like a lukewarm

480
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: or a cold shower before you go to bed. Like

481
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: my sons and I just went down and watch the

482
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Speaker 1: fights down in Vegas when it was like one hundred

483
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Speaker 1: and fifteen degrees on the strip and walk every nine

484
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: and we walk home from the fights and the shows

485
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: and everywhere we went, and every night before I get

486
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: into bed. You know, there's a little bit of resistance

487
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: to this, but that's okay. You can you can you

488
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: can overcome the resistance. But just take a cold shower

489
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: before you get into bed, and that helps to lower

490
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: the core temp if you have had to exercise or

491
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: you've had a heavy meal in those three hours prior

492
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: to bedtime. So you've got the light and you've got

493
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: the cold, both the ambient temperature and then your sleep

494
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: surface and then your body itself that you keep cold.

495
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: The other two that you want to think about for sleep,

496
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: in addition to light and cold. The first is noise,

497
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: and in the city this is a bigger issue. But

498
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Speaker 1: I mean even I've got roosters that like to get

499
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Speaker 1: up kind of early because they're naturally programmed to wake

500
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: you up. And I've got um I live out in

501
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: the forest, but there's a road nearby that sometimes semis

502
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: go down and I can hear off in the distance,

503
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: the like the breaking, like the you know, when semis

504
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: go downhill. So I wear ear plugs, like just soft

505
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: wax earplugs to bed. But then they've actually done studies

506
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: on the different forms of ambient noise that help you

507
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: to sleep at night. You know, they make like sleep

508
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: machines that will make white noise and brown noise, and

509
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: one of the forms of noise that they make is

510
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: pink noise, and pink noise, it appears, is the best

511
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: background noise to have playing in the background. It's just like,

512
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't know why they give colors to certain noises,

513
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: but it's the frequency in the pitch of that noise.

514
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: So I've got an app on my phone called sleep stream.

515
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: I think it was free or the cost was incidental,

516
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: but it's got all these different like sleep tracks on it,

517
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: and don't I don't use anything on it except the

518
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: pink noise function. So my phone goes in airplane mode

519
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: next to my bed and then I push pink noise on,

520
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: and I put the ear plugs in, and then I'm

521
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: covering up all those ambient sounds. That technique works a

522
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: lot better when I'm traveling, when I'm staying in a

523
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Speaker 1: hotel in their busy roads, when I'm when I have

524
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Speaker 1: a roommate or something like that, I'm not a conference,

525
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm sharing room with somebody and they're getting up earlier,

526
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: they're going to bed late. So the sound is another component,

527
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: especially if you're a light sleeper. And then the final

528
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: component is safety, and a lot of people don't think

529
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: about the safety component. So your bed should be a

530
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: place where from a nervous system standpoint, you're not wired

531
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: up in work mode. Your sympathetic nervous system is not activated.

532
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: If anything, the bed is almost like an anchor that

533
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: activates the parasympathetic nervous system. Well, if you are one

534
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: of those people who has business books on your nightstand,

535
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: or maybe you open your laptop up at night or

536
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: really any other time during the day, that would give

537
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: your body the impression that the bedroom or the bed

538
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: particularly is an appropriate place to work. I would say

539
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: even that television just because psychologically, you know, we as

540
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: humans are still hardwired to see that television and it's

541
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: as though a whole bunch of other people and other

542
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: experiences are in your bedroom, not to mention the fact

543
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: that there's some really interesting data that television can replace dreaming. Right,

544
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: So essentially we live now in an era for the

545
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: past several decades where all of the colors and imagery

546
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: and imagination and visualization and creativity that your brain should

547
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: be churning out during sleep at night to process memories

548
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: and to process trauma and to process creativity, a lot

549
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: of that can be replaced by staring at a television

550
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: before you go to bed at night. So I don't

551
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: have a TV in the bedroom for those reasons, and

552
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: also for the light reasons, and also for the reason

553
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: that I want my body to associate the bed with

554
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: pretty much nothing but sleep and sex. And then I'll

555
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: keep a boring book or a work of fiction next

556
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: to the bedside. Now, I used to when I'd get

557
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: to a hotel room, I would just like you know,

558
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: PLoP on, especially a small hotel room like a suite.

559
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Usually you've got more than enough room. But you know,

560
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: the small hotel is a little crappy workstation in the

561
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: corner or whatever. If that, I'd just like PLoP on

562
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: my stomach on the bed and open up my laptop.

563
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people know I'm

564
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: talking about lay there on your belly and work on

565
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: the laptop because it's a comfortable spot to do that.

566
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: And the problem is that sends your body this cognitive

567
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: signal that the bed is the place where you work.

568
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: So now I always make sure my laptop, even in

569
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: a single room hotel room, is not in the bed,

570
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: and that sends the body a message that the bed

571
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: is a safe place, not a workplace, not a stressful place,

572
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: not an email jumping out from your computer place. And

573
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: if you really want to take that safety thing one

574
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: step further, this has become quite popular now, this idea

575
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: of gravity blankets, meaning folks will sell like these ten, fifteen,

576
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: twenty or twenty five pound gravity blankets. And it sounds

577
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: like it would be totally paradoxical to what I was

578
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: saying about staying cool because it sounds heavy. But a

579
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: lot of folks are doing a good job making like

580
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: a gravity blanket that will stay cool. That one company

581
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: I was talking about, Chili Pad, They even sell a

582
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: gravity blanket that will like circulate cold water through the blanket.

583
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: But there's something about very similar to like how when

584
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: you were swaddled as a baby, you felt protected and

585
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: you felt like you were in this this quiet cave.

586
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: It's that feeling when you pull on the gravity blanket.

587
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: And so when you combine all that stuff, the light,

588
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: the cold, management of sound, and then presence of safety

589
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: in the bedroom, you create a a real, real nice

590
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: nest for getting those hours that are arguably the only

591
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: hours during your life, you know, arguably that third of

592
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: your life that your nervous system should be repairing. That

593
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: your body should not be wired up to have everything activated,

594
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be exposed to, like lots of electrical signals.

595
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: And I'm not one of those guys who's like like

596
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: go full on, move up to the mountains, don't use internet,

597
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: cut yourself off from everything. But it appears that the

598
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: issue with constant exposure to all these electrical signals that

599
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: are bodies from an ancestral standpoint, haven't been exposed to

600
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: for thousands of years is the fact that the cells

601
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: don't get a break, right. So when we're looking at

602
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Wi Fi and Bluetooth and the constant open of what

603
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: are called calcium channels in the cell that allow a

604
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: whole bunch of ions to spill into the cell that

605
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: disrupt metabolism, or they give you brain fog later on

606
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: in the day, that's actually all pretty reparable. The body's

607
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: actually pretty impressive and magical in terms of how quickly

608
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: can bounce back from certain things. Just in the same

609
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: way they could recover from a hard exercise session and

610
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: remove all those muscle fibers or repair all those muscle

611
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: fibers if you give it rest, if you give a recovery.

612
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: The thing is, it's the same thing with electrical explorers.

613
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: Like if you can turn your bedroom into a safe, quiet,

614
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: cool place that also doesn't have a whole bunch of

615
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: plugged in like Wi Fi, routers and phones, etc. You're

616
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden giving your chance, your cells a

617
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: chance to just go. It's like when people camp, you know,

618
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: you just cut off from a lot of stuff. They

619
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: feel great when they come back. So it's not as

620
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: though you have to live like a luddite. It's that

621
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to press the pause button, give your

622
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: body a chance to step away from all that electricity

623
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: for just you know that those seven or eight hours

624
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: or however long you're in there and then emerge back

625
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: out repair and ready to tackle the day again. Yeah,

626
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: that's it. You just taught everyone how to make that

627
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: bedroom into a sanctuary. That was a sanctuary. Yeah, that's

628
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: what it sounded like, what you were describing you. I

629
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: was just like, and that's what it has to be.

630
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: A sanctuary is safe. A sanctuary it has to be.

631
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people beat themselves up too,

632
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: because you know, there's a lot of really great sleep

633
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: researchers out there. Now. You know, you've got guys like

634
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: Matthew Walker and Nick little Hales and um gosho who

635
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: there's another another person who's been doing a lot of

636
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: work on sleep. Michael Bruce is another guy. But over

637
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: and over again, what you see is you're supposed to

638
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: sleep seven to nine hours a night, and a lot

639
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: of people feel bad because they don't. And I felt

640
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: bad for the longest time because I didn't. And I'm like, what,

641
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: am I gonna like die of cancer early? Or am

642
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: I gonna you know, is my body gonna fall apart?

643
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Am I gonna like accelerate aging because I just I've

644
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: got too much going on, or my body just like

645
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: my eyes open wide at like four thirty and I

646
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: just want to go crush the day, right, which which

647
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: I think many people who are dialed into perhaps some

648
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: of the things that you talk about, like your ekey guy,

649
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: your life's purpose, your plan da vita, you know, speaking

650
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: of Sardinia, this idea of your purpose for life. Well,

651
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: if you have a really strong purpose for life, sometimes

652
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: you wake up in the morning and you're just like, baby,

653
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: let's go bring it on. And for me, you know,

654
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: with our big, glorious family dinners and I read my

655
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: son's stories at night, and I play the music on

656
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: the guitar and I'll make love to my wife and

657
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: read some fiction. So you know, even with all that,

658
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: I can usually do a pretty good job being close

659
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: to a sleep by ten. Yeah, but getting up at

660
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: four four thirty that's six to six and a half hours.

661
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: So the thing is that if you do that, but

662
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: also you take a nap like a post lunched siesta

663
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: for example, the siesta even if it's like twenty to

664
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: forty five minutes long can simulate what you get out

665
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: of a full ninety minute ish sleep cycle. So the

666
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: way that I live my life is I sleep six

667
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: to six and a half hours a night, and then

668
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: like clockwork after lunch every day, or if I have

669
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 1: a meeting after lunch. Sometimes it's slightly later in the afternoon.

670
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: I try to push it too close to bedtime because

671
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: you want some sleep drive going into the night. I

672
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: take a nap. It's a siesta for me. It's twenty

673
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: to forty five minutes. I do kind of This is

674
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: where some of the biohacking comes in. I'm like, okay,

675
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 1: I goes. I want to make this effective. So what

676
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: I do is a I have something similar to like

677
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: that sensory deprivation float tank that you use down at pause.

678
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: I actually had a float tank for a while, but

679
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: it was too much upkeep for me. Yeah, it's my

680
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: whole basement looked like a freaking poolhouse. So I have

681
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: what's called a hyperbaric chamber, which is like this chamber

682
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: that they use in hospitals for repairing wounds and um

683
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: and they'll use it for like cardiovascular problems and increasing

684
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: red blood cells and It pressurizes you at about what's

685
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: called one point four atmosphere, so it's like you're twenty

686
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: three twenty five feet under the ocean with a pressure,

687
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: but then you're breathing pure oxygen, and so the combination

688
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: of the pure oxygen plus the pressure drives that oxygen

689
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: into the tissue accelerates repair, you know, clears the brain.

690
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean, even if you weren't napping in it, you

691
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: feel amazing when you get out. And so I climb

692
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: in that, and I like it too because I have

693
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: to zip myself up and it's kind of like nobody

694
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: can get to me. It even takes like three minutes

695
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: to decompress me. So if the house caught on fire,

696
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: I'd be kind of screwed. But I climb into that,

697
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: so I'm just like I'm locked off from the world, right.

698
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: And then I have a couple of technologies that I use.

699
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: One is called a hap bee. Oh yeah, it's like

700
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: you've seen this. It's super crummin. Yeah. I've been messing

701
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: out with it for like five months now. It uses

702
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: a magnetic signal that simulates the same molecular signal of

703
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: a few choice compounds, like for simulating wakefulness. You could

704
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: choose like the caffeine setting, the nicotine setting, for it's

705
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: got like an alcohol setting. What's it doing? So basically,

706
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: all it does is it causes your cells to respond

707
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: as though that particular molecule we're attached to the cell

708
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: receptor without you actually ingesting a compound or taking a

709
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: supplement or consuming something that's going to stay in your

710
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: system for a long period of time. So let's say

711
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: I want a wakey wakey prior to going out to

712
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: a to a dinner party. I could put it in

713
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: coffee mode, right, put that around my neck or around

714
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: my head, get that that hit wakefulness producing hit of caffeine.

715
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: But then when I take it off, it's not like

716
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: the caffeine still floating around in my system. Same thing

717
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: with a nap. So what I like? So it's in

718
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: your system only for as long as right, It's just

719
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: it's as though I were blasting with the electrical signal

720
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: of coffee without you actually having to drink the coffee,

721
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: which has a half life of you know whatever, six

722
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: or eight or ten hours, depending on how you're you're

723
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: You're you're genetically wired up. So it's really cool, and

724
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: I didn't really believe, you know, I'll interview a lot

725
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: of people on my podcast. I'm like, yeah, that's a

726
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: little woo. But then tried it and it actually works

727
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: surprisingly well, So I put it in My preferred mode

728
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: for NAP is the one that's it's called relax but

729
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: it mimics CBD, right, which is which is nice for

730
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: me because it just kind of settles down some racing thoughts,

731
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: gets me down at the end of the day. So

732
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: I put that on. And then I also have this

733
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: other device that works kind of similarly, but instead of

734
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: using a magnetic signal, it vibrates and it's a it's

735
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 1: a tiny vibration that elicits a brainwave signal that could

736
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: be like an alpha brainwave signal or a kind of

737
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: like a hyped up beta brainwave signal, or a DP

738
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: relaxation like data or delta brainwave signal. And that's called

739
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: an apollo. And that also, similar to the hat bee,

740
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: has like a wakefulness mode, a social mode. I even

741
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: put that that hat be one which also has an

742
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: alcohol mode on it. I gave it to my son

743
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: who wanted to try it out at dinner one night,

744
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: and it was in like social alcohol mode. He got

745
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: like super funny and he was joke teams, really relaxed

746
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: as who As I took it off of him, he

747
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: was just normal again. I wasn't giving my son actual alcohol.

748
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: This is just like simulating the effects. So I put

749
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: the Apollo in relaxed mode. I put the hat beat

750
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: in relaxed mode, and I climb into that hyperbaric chamber

751
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: and then I've got like lavender essential oil in there,

752
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: and I lay back and then I play this this track,

753
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: and I discover a lot of things through podcasting. Half

754
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: the stuff I learned from talking to people right now,

755
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: super duper smart who'd normally never give me the time

756
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: of day. And I get to pick the brains of

757
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: these scientists for like ninety minutes twice a week. So

758
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: it's way better than my college education, just talking all

759
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: these people and find out what works and what doesn't.

760
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: But a couple of years ago, I interviewed this guy

761
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: who has a company called New Calm. Yes, and New

762
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Calm has an app that that plays special signals. And

763
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: this sounds like like eight billion other apps out there

764
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: that will play like relaxing signals at night. There a

765
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: diamond does on the app store, But this one in particular,

766
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: it just seems to work for me, most notably in

767
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: the way that I can put it on like twenty

768
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: minutes and I'm dead to the world within like two

769
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: minutes of that thing playing. I'll wake up at the

770
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: twenty minute mark and I feel like I've slept like

771
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: an hour. This is something else. Yeah. As a matter

772
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: of fact, I asked the guy when I interviewed him, well,

773
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, could this just replace like the pink noise

774
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: that I play at night? And he said, no, no, no,

775
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: no, no no, don't do that, because it pushes you through

776
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: a sleep cycle so well that if you put it

777
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: on to sleep at night, you'd go through your sleep

778
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: cycle from let's say like ten to eleven thirty. Then

779
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: you'd wake up wide awake at night. Right, So this

780
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: is something that's better in my opinion for naps. The

781
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: other time I'll sometimes use it is if I wake up,

782
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: let's say it like three thirty four, and I want

783
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: to snag an extra thirty forty minutes to sleep or whatever,

784
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: I'll put it on that so I do the nap

785
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: of the apollo, the hat be the hyperbarrack, the oil,

786
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: and then the that hat be and even though I'm

787
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: sleeping six six and a half hours a night, I

788
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: get up from that nap and I'm kind of groggy

789
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: for like ten fifteen minutes. But what I do is

790
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: I go and I jump in that cold pool, right

791
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: and then I'll have some kind of stimulant like I'll

792
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: just pop a piece of nicotine gum or you'll have

793
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: a little leftover coffee from the night before whatever, and

794
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: then boom, like it's like I have a second day.

795
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: I feel amazing. I'm fully present with my family that

796
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: night at dinner, whereas if I pushed through that afternoon slog,

797
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like it's a dinner and you're

798
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: just king I can't wait until bedtime. Yeah, and I

799
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: don't like that feeling. Person. I'm just impressed that you're

800
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: charging skills, Like you must have the most organizing charging

801
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: schedule for all these devices. They need to be charged,

802
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: they to be like I mean, like most people can't

803
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: even charge their phone. You're like here, yeah, I kind

804
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: of seven devices, Like, so it's amazing, and I mean

805
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: that genuinely. I'm not just yeah, I've gotten to be

806
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: one charging station in the dining room that I just

807
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: kind of keep everything plugged into. UM. So, yeah, I've

808
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: got like four or five devices that I'm kind of

809
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: charged and during the day or the reason that I

810
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: plug them in is not because they have a low

811
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: battery life and they need to be charged. And this

812
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: is important for people to know. Yeah, any of these

813
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: devices or anything I try, I have a hard and

814
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: fast rule that it must be able to be placed

815
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: an airplane mode for the reasons that I stated earlier.

816
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: So if somebody's like trying to trying to like sell

817
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: me or have me try like some crazy new sleep system,

818
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, mattress self quantification device or whatever, one of

819
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: the first questions I ask is, well, can I disable

820
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: to WiFi or can I put it in airplane mode

821
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: so that during the time I'm using it, especially for rest,

822
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm not getting bombarded by signals? I'm yeah, and so

823
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: most of them can. But the problem is when you

824
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: place the device in airplane mode, typically to reconnect it

825
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: to your phone, because most of these are run via

826
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: some kind of app on your phone, you have to

827
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: plug it back into a charger, and that, like I'm

828
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: not an engineer, it takes. It takes that airplane mode basically,

829
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: and so a lot of times I do have to

830
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: like plug things in, you know, get up from my nap,

831
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: plug the hat bee and the Apollo in so they're

832
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: ready for the next day. But but yeah, it's uh,

833
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: there there are ways, especially in our day and age,

834
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: that you can definitely get by without just swallowing hook

835
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: client and sinker. You know that the eight to nine

836
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: hours of sleep a night message like, there's a lot

837
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: of ways around it. Yeah, tell me about the time, Ben,

838
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: when like for you this you know, you've always been athletic.

839
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: You you you are an athlete. You've been an athlete.

840
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: You spoke about the before, but you also mentioned that

841
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, there there have been times when you didn't

842
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: feel this way, and I want to hear a bit

843
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: about that, about how your life was before you really

844
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: understood the body as deeply as you do today, because

845
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: because I feel like for a lot of people when

846
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: they see you like to me as well, and I

847
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: really mean this in a genuine way, I see you

848
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: as like, Wow, this guy's like just you know, really

849
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: understands the body, really understands the mind. And you're an expert,

850
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: so you sound like an expert. But I know for

851
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: a fact that you weren't born that way and and

852
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: that's not how you've always been. And I'd love for

853
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: people to hear about that journey around. Tell me about

854
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: a time when you didn't feel boundless, when you didn't

855
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: feel as like now it's like you know how to

856
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: turn this and you play with this, and now it's

857
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: an experiment and it's fun and you enjoy it. Tell

858
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: us about when you kind of were like, did you

859
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: ever feel broken health wise? Did you ever feel like

860
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: everything was just a mess? Were you ever in the

861
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: place that most of my audience maybe feeling like they're

862
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: just like Jay, I'm just struggling to get out of

863
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: bed in the morning, Like I don't sleep, I've got

864
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: like bloated, I'm feeling ghassy. Like, tell me about when

865
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: you felt like you were at your worst as opposed

866
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: to what we see now. There's three things that I

867
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: want to tell you right now. When I was a kid,

868
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: I was homeschooled K through twelve. The emphasis of my

869
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: homeschooling was really more on a classical education centered around

870
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: Latin and logic and rhetoric and the great books and

871
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: tons of reading, which I loved. I would happy place

872
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: was the library, and my parents would have to take

873
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: me out of the bedroom and almost like threaten me

874
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: with punishment if I wouldn't come out and socialize with people,

875
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: because I just wanted to be in there with my books.

876
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: I played the violin for thirteen years. I was president

877
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: of the chess club. I loved to take about part

878
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: computers right, and design video games and and you know,

879
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: and figure out how my hard drive worked, and was

880
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: an early adopter of a lot of these technologies in

881
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: a very geeky way, you know, prior to the advent

882
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: of social media, et cetera. You know, when it was

883
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: you actually had to kind of have a working knowledge

884
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: of some of these technologies. And I was. I was

885
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: pretty much like a geeky little Christian homeschooled kid. I

886
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: remember the stuff I got mad about when I was

887
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: a kid was like when some kid would like quilted

888
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: Doiley at the at our homeschool talent competition and beat

889
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: out my watercolor painting right like, and so was it

890
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: your mother and father that were both oh with the homeschool,

891
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: Like there was a group of kids and teachings both.

892
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: We had a pretty good homeschool collective. So I didn't

893
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: come pletely miss out on social life. I was a

894
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: weird kid in that I was very independently driven to learn,

895
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: and I am still that way now. My parents would

896
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: literally just give me books and walk away. They would

897
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: literally give me the whole year's math curriculum and then

898
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: just like make sure I took the tests. My siblings

899
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: were not the same and needed a lot more kind

900
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: of handholding. But I've always been curious and driven from

901
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: an independent learning standpoint, and it really wasn't until I

902
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: discovered the sport of tennis that I became interested in

903
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: physical culture at all. When my parents wanted to create

904
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: a really cool environment for all of us to grow

905
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: up in, so one day they announced that they were

906
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: going to bring in some folks and we're all going

907
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: to pitch in and learn a little bit of construction

908
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: and lay asphalt and build a tennis court. So we

909
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: built a tennis court, and they hired a tennis instructor

910
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: and her name was Michelle, and I had a big

911
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: crush on her, which helped with my motivation to play

912
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: more tennis. But I also loved tennis and I got

913
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: really good at it, and it came really natural to me,

914
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: and I started to run up the hills behind my house,

915
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: and my dad took me down to the local sporting

916
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: goods store to buy a little ten pound dumbells, and

917
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: I started to figure out, like, you know, how to

918
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: drink milk to get strong, and the kind of things

919
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: that made me faster, and you know, how to stay

920
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: hydrated in water and minerals. And I had a couple

921
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: of mentors. A guy who was my younger brother's best

922
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: friend's dad was a bodybuilder, so all of a sudden,

923
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm learning about nutrition and working out from him. Another

924
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: friend is a powerlifter. So by the time I'm like fifteen,

925
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: I was done with high school. So I'm like, you know,

926
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to go program computers or paint watercolor,

927
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: like I want to go learn more about this body

928
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: and tennis. So I walked onto the local college tennis

929
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: team when I was fifteen and started playing tennis, started

930
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: studying exercise science, got a master's degree in physiology and biomechanics,

931
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: and wound up opening a whole bunch of personal training

932
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: studios and gyms in Washington and Idaho, and just have

933
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: been hardcore and the health and fitness and nutrition scene

934
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: ever since then. So initially I really wasn't interested in

935
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: much of this stuff at all. But at that point

936
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: I spent like twenty years competing in all these crazy

937
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: hardcore you know, obstacle course races and Ironman triathlons and

938
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: open water swims and adventure races. That was my life

939
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: for like twenty years, was using my body as a

940
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: guinea pig, using all these races and events as like

941
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: a battlefield to test stuff out. I was coaching, I

942
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: was competing, I was traveling, and I thought I was

943
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: the bees knees when it came to fitness. I would

944
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: say that if you were to look at me and

945
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: judge me through what our world considers to be fitness,

946
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: which I think is a bastardized version of fitness, I

947
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: was one of the fittest humans on the planet, like

948
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: like I really did look good in spandex and could

949
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: ride my bike really fast, you know, run of pills.

950
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: And to reply to the meat of part of your question,

951
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: it was about nine years ago or so when I

952
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: really got into self qualification, testing of blood work, testing

953
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: of biomarkers, sleep, nervous system, you know, all these things

954
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: that we can easily test now that you normally would

955
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: have had to pay tens of thousands of dollars for it,

956
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Princeton Longevity Institute or some executive facility

957
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, only available to wealthy ceo as we can

958
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: now get all these tests in our own home, and

959
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: I got super interested in this stuff, and I started

960
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: to get all these tests, and I realize, oh crap,

961
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm fit on the outside, but I'm dying on

962
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: the inside. High inflammation, low testosterone, disregulated thyroid gut inflammation

963
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: and gut issues and constipation and brain fog and all

964
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: these issues that technically somebody with like low body fat

965
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: and muscles who can like run and lift weights you

966
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect to have. But really, true fitness is not

967
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: about going to a little fake box at the beginning

968
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: of the day and pushing, you know, fake heavy things

969
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: around for an hour and then walking out and assuming

970
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: that you're good to go and maybe kind of sort

971
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: of eating healthy like a protein bar Trader Joe's or whatever.

972
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: There's so much more. There's there's so much more when

973
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: it comes to the body. And that's what I began

974
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: to discover. My first big book that I wrote called

975
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: beyond training was just that it was like, okay, so

976
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: as an athlete, there's all these other things like digestion

977
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: and hormones and endocrine system and inflammation and blood sugar

978
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: regulation and immune system integrity and all these things that

979
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: we don't think about when it comes to what it

980
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: truly takes to have long health spin and life spin.

981
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: And so what I discovered along the way was all

982
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: of these things like not I mean Men's Health magazine

983
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: or Women's Health magazine, whatever will tell you how to

984
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: exercise and how to eat healthy. Okay, maybe sometimes they

985
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: missed the mark a little bit, but for the most part,

986
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: it's not rocket science for somebody to go out there

987
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: and figure out, okay, eat real whole food that's recognizable

988
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: that preferably is as close to Earth as possible, and

989
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: then like move your body, lift heavy stuff and occasionally

990
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: breathe hard playing tennis or soccer, high intensi interral training

991
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like, we've kind of cracked the code on

992
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: eating healthy and moving, and most people can find that

993
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: information for free pretty readily. But what most people don't

994
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: pay attention to are all the things that the body

995
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: really truly needs to be optimized to produce ATP to

996
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: produce energy. And this is a big part of what

997
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: my last book, Boundless was about, like light and how

998
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: the photons of light interact with the human body to

999
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: charge up the mitochondria to allow it to be able

1000
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: to produce ATP. The negative ions and the electricity produced

1001
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: by the planet Earth that take when you're outside barefoot

1002
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: or you're touching trees and rocks, you're soaking up all

1003
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: those negative ions and just restoring the natural state of

1004
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: electricity the body, the body, which is like a battery

1005
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: is supposed to be in when you get exposed to

1006
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: stressors of heat or stressors of cold, there's enormous variants

1007
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: that spring up in the human body like like like

1008
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: like heat chalk proteins and cold chalk proteins, and blood

1009
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: flow and nitric oxide. When you drink pure clean water

1010
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: that's chock full of minerals, right trace liquid minerals or

1011
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: sea salts or things like that, that harryes that electrical

1012
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: charge through your body. And I began to realize, Holy cow,

1013
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I thought you're just supposed to like go to the

1014
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: gym and eat a protein bar to be healthy, But

1015
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's like sunlight, it's magnetism, it's water,

1016
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: it's earth, it's heat, it's cold, it's it's positive relationships

1017
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: and love and gratitude and all these things that we

1018
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: just we forget about when it comes to being a full,

1019
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: complete human being. And so that was when the light

1020
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: bulb happened for me, when I realized I'm healthy on

1021
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: the outside, but I'm dying on the inside. And there's

1022
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: all sorts of avenues that this entire fitness world has

1023
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: yet to explore when it comes to what it truly

1024
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: means to have. You know what I talk about in

1025
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: the book, You know what I call boundless energy. Number

1026
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: one is no, I didn't always like this stuff, but

1027
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: I gradually developed a love for it. And I think

1028
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: my curiosity, my independent drive to learn, and the fact

1029
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: that I was a real geek just tended to fuel

1030
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: my drive to learn a lot of these things about

1031
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: how people can really feel good. And then number two,

1032
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: I after twenty years, realized my own mistake of just

1033
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: like beating up the body and expecting it to bounce back.

1034
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that was true fitness. And then finally see

1035
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: and this is really this is where where I'm really

1036
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: driving a lot of my platform, my teachings. What I

1037
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: really want to focus probably for the rest of my

1038
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: life on one is the fact that we can achieve

1039
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: all these things we've been talking about. Jay, you can

1040
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: sleep like a champ, and you can have you know,

1041
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: if it's important to you whatever six pack abs or

1042
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: veins in your abs, or you know, be able to

1043
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: do a triathlon or an obstacle race or just like

1044
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: rule a CrossFit box, or you know, anything else that

1045
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: might be important to you. Have a full head of hair,

1046
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: defy aging, low wrinkles, like like how many close to

1047
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: billion dollar industries have sprung up around us trying to

1048
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: optimize ourselves as human beings. And yet at the end

1049
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: of the day, because I see this over and over again,

1050
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: not only in having experienced this myself, but having seen

1051
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: this in many of like the wealthy and successful executive

1052
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: It was like coach and pro athletes I've worked with,

1053
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: and people who appear on the outside to be crushing

1054
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: it in life. At the end of the day, none

1055
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: of this is fulfilling. None of this is ultimately fulfilling. Okay,

1056
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: Like I can literally be like pose on the cover

1057
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: of a magazine whatever you know, with with girls draped

1058
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: off of each arm, you know, eating one hundred dollars

1059
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: steaks for dinner every night, and experiencing you know what

1060
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: many people would would would covet as an amazing life.

1061
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: But I got news for you. I'm not happy in

1062
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: that state. And I've I've seen a lot of people

1063
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: also not be happy in that state because there is

1064
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: a yearning in our soul. There is a hole in

1065
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: our soul, right, there is there is this deep longing

1066
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: for some kind of fulfillment that in my world, we

1067
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: throw fitness and a healthy diet and the way you

1068
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: look and the way you perform into other people will

1069
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: throw cars, throw money, throw sex, throw homes, throw experiences,

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00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: throw anything else that seems like it might be that

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00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: one thing that you've finally discovered that's going to be

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00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: the ultimate key to fulfillment. Right, I'm finally about to

1073
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: cross the finish line of that iron Man trayathlon. Oh boy,

1074
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: life's going to be different after this. It's going to

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00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: be different. I've done it and now i can just

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00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: be on cruise control the rest of my life because

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00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: I've checked that fulfillment box. But at the end of

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: the day, none of that stuff is fulfilling because and

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00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm, I'm people came before me who have

1080
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: identified this. This isn't new information that I came up

1081
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: with myself, but there is this. As you know, a

1082
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: great writer and theologian named Blaze Pascal would describe it

1083
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: as a God shaped hole in our hearts, eternity in

1084
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: our hearts. And the only thing that's going to feel

1085
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: an infinite abyss, an eternal abyss, a God shaped hole

1086
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: in your heart is God is some type of fulfillment

1087
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: that's everlasting, that's eternal. And once I realize that and realize,

1088
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like I could train my body all

1089
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: day long. But even though physical training is a little

1090
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: bit beneficial, it's nothing compared to training for forever. It's

1091
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: nothing compared to gratitude, to relationships, to sharing with others,

1092
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: to loving others, to volunteer, to service, to community, to worship,

1093
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: to having something greater outside of you, and believing that

1094
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: a story is written for your life. And now that

1095
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: I understand that all of these things that I've learned,

1096
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: all these fun little biohacks that we talk about at

1097
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day are interesting but not going

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00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: to make you ultimately happy. Well, now, if you have

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00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: been doing those things, if you are taking care of

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00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: your body right, and you do have a really good

1101
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: body and brain, you're biohacking, you're fit, and you're healthy,

1102
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: and you're eating well. Man, When you put not what

1103
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: I would call the icing on the cake or the

1104
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: cherry on the cupcake, but really lay that on the core,

1105
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: on the foundation of a deeply meaningful spiritual life, then

1106
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: you're firing on all cylinders. And so I think that's

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00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: what's really important for people to understand, is, you know,

1108
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: the wool socks and the chili pad and the hyperbaric chamber.

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00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, what you should view

1110
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: those as is you should view those as a way

1111
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: to equip yourself to be more impactful with the purpose

1112
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: that you've been given in life, not as your source

1113
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: of happiness. Then that was so powerful, and I you know,

1114
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: the way you just shared that and the way you

1115
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: even talk about biohacking and mastering the body from the

1116
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: beginning of this interview, you can tell that it's to

1117
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: have these beautiful exchanges with your family, to have a

1118
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: meaningful dinner. And you know, when I hear you talk

1119
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: about these things like it resonates so deeply with me, Big,

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Speaker 1: because what you just set up is exactly why we

1121
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: do need to do these things. Who wants to be

1122
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: at dinner with their family and be like have brain

1123
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: fog and have confusion and be stressed out and just

1124
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: be looking forward to bedtime or to be spending time

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00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: with their partner but not having the energy to go

1126
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: on a beautiful walk or a hike or whatever it

1127
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: may be like. And that's the challenge we're having that

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00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: our health is negatively impact on our relationships, Like for

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00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: those of us who are experiencing fatigue, for those of

1130
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: us who are experiencing bloating, for those of us who

1131
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: are experiencing inflammation that's leading to stress and agitation in

1132
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: your relationships. You think that you're just not getting along

1133
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: it is you cannot disentangle the body and the spirit.

1134
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: And there are some people that have taken this to extremes,

1135
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: Like if you look at at the Nastics right, a

1136
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: very very popular religion about the same time that Christianity

1137
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: was rising, you know, in fifty sixty seventy a d.

1138
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 1: They believe that all things fleshly and physical were and bad,

1139
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: and that the only thing important was the spirit, and

1140
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: that marriage was bad, and that good food was bad,

1141
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: and anything that even remotely reaked of epicureanism was bad.

1142
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: And one should be stoic, but stoked to the nth degree.

1143
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: And the fact is that the body is sacred. Food

1144
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: is sacred. It's not just this physical biological interaction with

1145
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: your taste. But sex is sacred. It's not just two

1146
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: bodies rubbing together in mutual masturbation, you know, fitness and

1147
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: even the movement of electrons to the body. You know,

1148
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: in traditional Chinese medicine, and you know, they call that

1149
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: that the chi, the life force, the prawna the energy,

1150
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: and western medicine we call it the mitochondri it's the

1151
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: same thing. There's a deep spiritual aspect to that. And

1152
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: so we are bodies with spirits, and the body must

1153
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: be treated as a temple that is to house the spirit,

1154
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: and the spirit must be treated as the one part

1155
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: of us that we care for the most, because that's

1156
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: what's going to go on for eternity, and that's what

1157
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: we really use as our deep fuel and our fire

1158
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: every day. And so yeah, in an ideal scenario, when

1159
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: you wake up in the morning in addition to impacting

1160
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: this world fully with whatever purpose you've been given with

1161
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: your life in a spirit of loving others, you should

1162
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: also be asking yourself, how can I quit both my

1163
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: body and my spirit today to be as impactful as possible?

1164
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: And it's and it's both, and you can have both.

1165
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to be like a yeah you know,

1166
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: no no offense jay, but like whatever, like a skinny

1167
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: yogi monk, who's you know, who can't hold up a

1168
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: heavy weight without their bones breaking. You also don't want

1169
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: to be an Adonis at the gym who just basically

1170
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: doesn't even know what a gratitude practice is or how

1171
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: to pray to God or anything like that. Human beings

1172
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: we are. We are some of the most complex, if

1173
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: not the most complex creature on the face of the planet.

1174
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a platypus or something might be up there

1175
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: kind of inter saying, but we we have the ability

1176
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: to live our lives with this amazing body and an

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00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: amazing spirit, and in my opinion, there's no reason that

1178
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: you can't have both and a man when you get

1179
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: into the into that state of literally having your cake

1180
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: and eating it too, on the highest level, life is

1181
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: amazing and everybody, everybody, every single person listening in right

1182
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: now has the capability to get to that level as

1183
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: long as they realize that most people around them have

1184
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: settled for status quo. And if you realize that, you

1185
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: actually can rise above and you can train your spirit,

1186
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: and you can train your body, and all of this

1187
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: is learnable, all of this is teachable, all of this

1188
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: is practicable and habit formationable. And I'm going to stop

1189
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: making up words now. But anybody has us within their

1190
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: power to be able to accomplish Yeah, well said no,

1191
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: And I feel the same way. You know, for years,

1192
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: I focused extensively on the mind. I focused extensively on intention.

1193
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: I focused deeply on gratitude service. And that's where I

1194
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: spent most of my life because that's what I naturally

1195
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: gravitated towards. It's what my monk training was based on,

1196
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: it's what my heart was drawn to. And everything you

1197
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: just shared, and I find myself now coming over to

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01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: the other side and wanting to learn more about the body.

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01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: And so what you just said is it sits very

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01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: closely with my heart because I grew up as someone

1201
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: who dived deep into the spirit and the mind and

1202
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: the heart and the soul, which has been the foundation

1203
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: of anything that I do today. But I have come

1204
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: backwards almost yeah, And I'm not saying it's backwards all forwards.

1205
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: I just think I've I've come to that realization that

1206
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: my spirit can only do as much as my body.

1207
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because as monks, the order of our

1208
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: priorities were meant to be health, sadener, service, and so

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: health is health as you're saying it, your physical, your body,

1210
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: your temple. Health, sadener is your daily practices of aratitude, intention, prayer,

1211
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: and then savor or service is you then sharing that

1212
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: with the world. So the pyramid was meant to be that, yeah,

1213
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: but some of us, including me, decided to skip that

1214
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: first one and do two in three. And I'm almost

1215
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: you know the reason why speaking to you is so powerful,

1216
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: And some of the things that I've started experimenting with

1217
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: and playing with probably in the last couple of years,

1218
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: have been totally that direction of I now want to

1219
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: understand my body so that I can serve better, yep,

1220
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: so that I can serve for longer, so that I

1221
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: can have more loving exchange. That's that's the goal, right

1222
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: when you come at with love others. Yeah, right, not

1223
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: how do I look in the mirror. That's why I

1224
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: never felt fast. It's loving others. And in the very

1225
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: same way that the best businesses are not necessarily built

1226
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: on a monetary goal, but are built upon a goal

1227
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: of how many people can we serve, how many people

1228
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: can we touch, how many lives can we affect? And

1229
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: the money will follow. I mean for me as as

1230
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: a business person, right like, I have to make a living,

1231
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: and I'm a content producer kind of like you, like,

1232
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: A lot of my business is driven by me educating people.

1233
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: And when I write an article, or when I record

1234
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: a podcast, or when i'm you know, doing an Instagram

1235
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: post or whatever it is, I tell myself, Okay, my goal,

1236
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: even if there is a product, a solution that's offered

1237
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: here is part of this post or this podcast or

1238
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: this story that someone can go by, My goal is

1239
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: that someone finishes digesting this content, listening to this audio,

1240
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: reading this essay, looking at this post, and walks away

1241
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: a better person, regardless of whether or not they actually

1242
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: purchase anything, right, they walk away whatever, knowing more about

1243
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: the gut, knowing more about the hormones, knowing more about

1244
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: the brain, knowing more about gratitude, knowing more about whatever

1245
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: it is that I'm producing content about. And I tell

1246
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: you what, when I write in that way and I

1247
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: teaching that way and I produce content in that way,

1248
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about money. That just kind

1249
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 1: of follows right, And honestly, it follows in a better

1250
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: way because you create a more hardcore audience that trust

1251
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: what you have to say because you actually care about them,

1252
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: and that's why you're getting out of bed in the morning.

1253
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: And so it should be the same way for yourself

1254
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: when you go to the gym, and try this. If

1255
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: you're listening in right now, if you go hit the

1256
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: gym tomorrow or you go out, you know what are

1257
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: your basement and you know you're breathing hard and beating

1258
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: yourself up and doing your burpies or whatever the case

1259
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: may be. Think about how you're equipping yourself to be

1260
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: impactful at work, to be present for your family, to

1261
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: have a lifespan and help spend that enables you to

1262
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: be passing wisdom on to your great grandkids or your

1263
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: great great grandkids. That level of motivation that you experience

1264
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: when you're doing things to love others or arguably also

1265
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: doing things to equip yourself to just be able to

1266
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: more fully savor this amazing planet that we are on

1267
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, man compared to like, what's the scale,

1268
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it all day, it's just a much

1269
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: much more empowering way to train for health. Yeah, yeah,

1270
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree, movement, I couldn't agree more. Tell me

1271
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: before we get to their final five questions of the interview.

1272
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: Nearly at the end, I want to ask you if

1273
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: someone you very emphatically stated that anyone who's listening to this,

1274
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: anyone who's watching, can do this, can have both. I'm

1275
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: with you, I agree with you, I'm aligned with you.

1276
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: Tell me about what you said earlier. You were saying, Jay,

1277
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: you know I still work with a few people on coaching,

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Speaker 1: and you were sharing to me, I should sleep between

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Speaker 1: sixty three and sixty five. That's going to be better

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Speaker 1: for me than even sixty five to sixty seven. So

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Speaker 1: much of this is habit change. You've created so many

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Speaker 1: new habits in your life, experimented. For those of you

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Speaker 1: who have not read Boundless, when you pick it up,

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Speaker 1: what I love about the book is you break it

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Speaker 1: down into tiny sections, aren't explaining each part of the science,

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Speaker 1: but then giving a practical thing that someone can do. Today,

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Speaker 1: you have technology if people want to adopt it. Habit

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Speaker 1: change is a huge part of what you do. Where

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Speaker 1: are people going wrong in their habit change? What have

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Speaker 1: you seen through your extreme experimenting where habit change has

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Speaker 1: actually worked for people? I would say what comes to

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Speaker 1: mind for me first when I asked that question is

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Speaker 1: a big. Big part of it is relevance and understanding

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Speaker 1: why you're doing something. When I was in high school,

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Speaker 1: I really hated math and science, And when I got

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Speaker 1: to college, I just became a standout in math and

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Speaker 1: science because I had a teacher first year of college

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Speaker 1: who made math relevant by tying in a lot of

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Speaker 1: wealth preservation and savings and investing components that made math

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Speaker 1: super relevant to me. And so at that point I

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Speaker 1: just developed this wonderful love for math and a habit

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Speaker 1: why I was doing it. So understand for math and

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Speaker 1: a habit of studying math because it was relevant and

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Speaker 1: I knew why I was doing it. So understand why

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Speaker 1: you're doing something. I think that the importance of education

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Speaker 1: when it comes to habit formation is very important. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Another one that that I rely upon a daily basis

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Speaker 1: for either stopping habits or making habits is making something

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Speaker 1: as accessible and convenient as possible, meaning that I am probably,

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Speaker 1: like from a fitness standpoint and a consistency of fitness standpoint,

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Speaker 1: probably just about as fit as I've ever been in

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Speaker 1: terms of true health and some of those parameters we

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Speaker 1: were talking about earlier, because partially I really haven't had

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Speaker 1: to leave my house to go to the gym and

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Speaker 1: was kind of forced into that because of COVID. So

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Speaker 1: everything I need is I gotta step over a kettlebell

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Speaker 1: to walk into my gym. I gotta like walk underneath

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Speaker 1: a pull up bar to go down the stairs. In

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Speaker 1: my house, I have to basically like walk past a

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Speaker 1: cold tub every day, and you know, and you know,

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Speaker 1: there's just healthy feels strewn all about the house. This

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Speaker 1: idea of surrounding yourself and making everything convenient down to

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Speaker 1: the point where if you're going to go for run

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Speaker 1: in the morning, having your running shoes in your shorts

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Speaker 1: right there beside the beds, so there's very little cognitive

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Speaker 1: resistance to starting. That would be a second thing that

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Speaker 1: I found to be really is making things convenient. I

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Speaker 1: think the last one is for me personally. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if this is the way for everybody, but

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Speaker 1: I like, especially when it comes to health habits, to

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Speaker 1: be able to stack things. So anytime that I'm getting healthy,

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Speaker 1: I'm also making myself a better person. For example, I

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Speaker 1: really rarely listen to music when I'm working out. I

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Speaker 1: view my workout as also a chance for me to

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01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: go to university, right, so it's always podcasts audiobooks when

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Speaker 1: the going gets really hard. There's actually been some studies

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Speaker 1: I've shown this to be a cool tactic. That's when

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Speaker 1: the music goes on, like when you need it the

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: last minute, So you're kind of like saving your brain

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Speaker 1: to get to the point where it really really needs

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Speaker 1: the music and it's not just kind of used to

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Speaker 1: the music at that point and can actually push past,

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Speaker 1: you know. I do like the red light therapy and

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: the grounding and the earthing mats and the essential oils

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01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: and this special like water repair device called a nanovie

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01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: in my desk when but I don't go in there

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Speaker 1: and just do all that stuff and have it be

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Speaker 1: unproductive time, Like that's the time when I bang out

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Speaker 1: my first forty five minutes of emails for the day.

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Speaker 1: So I always figure out a way to make something

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01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: more palatable in terms of tying that habit into something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I even like I got out of the habit,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I'm a big fan of reading scripture

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Speaker 1: and reading the Bible every morning. And I even found

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Speaker 1: myself and this happened a few months ago. I was

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Speaker 1: saying the room of my Bible. I'm like, why am

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Speaker 1: I just sitting here reading the Bible? Aren't there other

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Speaker 1: things that I could be doing? And you'd think they'd

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: be distracting, But now I read my Bible while I'm

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01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: sitting in a pulsed to electromagnetic field chair with a

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01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: biocharger on, and it's like I'm still reading, but my

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Speaker 1: body's kind of like getting better at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So I love to stack healthy habits, and it's very

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Speaker 1: rewarding when you stack them all and also figure out

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Speaker 1: how to still be productive during the day. So it's

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Speaker 1: not like you're having to rob Peter to pay Paul.

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: It's like you're you're paying Paul and Peter at the

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Speaker 1: same time. So those are the top three things that

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Speaker 1: come to mind. Be educate yourself about why you're doing

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. Surround yourself with what you need to

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Speaker 1: maintain positive habits while hiding the things that would cause

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01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: you to form negative habits. And then um basically stack

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Speaker 1: habits and make the habit fun or meaningful or productive

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Speaker 1: so you don't feel like you're wasting time engaged in

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Speaker 1: that habit. I love that Bend Green for Everyone band.

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01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: That was amazing. I'm like, you need to come up

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01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: for a pot two, but we can't wait this long

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01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: as we waited to do a pot one. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe we can go to some other longevity hot spot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Okinawa would be interesting and even sushi and a couple

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Speaker 1: of potatoes. I haven't been. I've spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: time in Japan, eased to race over there a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I've spoken over there a couple of times. But

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Speaker 1: I absolutely I love the I love the food depend

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Speaker 1: where I'm at, I like the culture. I would say

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Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite places over there would be Kyoto, right,

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: great great touring grit walks and yeah, I'm I'm a

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01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: fan of I'm a fan of sushi. Although now I

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01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: I um, I know we're trying to wrap up, but

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Speaker 1: I'll finish here. I've been making my own sushi. I

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01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: found this service called Stop and they deliver sashimi grade

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: fish to my house every week. Wow. And so it's

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of spoiled me. I literally take out my sushi knife,

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01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: cut it in strips, put it in a nori wrap

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Speaker 1: with some sushi risal, mustard, you know whatever I want

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: to sprinkle on there. And so my sons and I

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: make poke bowls and sushi all the time. Now, but

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Speaker 1: I do I do enjoy a good, good, actual, legitimate Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Japanese sushi restaurant. Yeah, amazing, man. Well, Ben, we end

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Speaker 1: every episode with a final five, which are fast five.

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Speaker 1: So onto that one word, one word, one word to

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01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: ten words maximum. All right, so we're to have dashes.

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01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: That's the most important. Yeah. So the question one is

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Speaker 1: what is the worst health advice you've ever received? It

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: would probably be, and I want to have a whole

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01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: lot of time to explain this too much, but it

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Speaker 1: would be eat a post workout meal. Okay, we'll save

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Speaker 1: that for part two. Boundless. Do you talk about them?

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about that Boundless? All right? Great,

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01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: question number two what's the best health advice you've ever

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Speaker 1: received or given or heard? Get out in the sunlight more.

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 1: I need to do that a lot more. I was

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: talking to someone in my health life recently. They were like,

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Speaker 1: because of the color of my skin, I have to

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01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: really be out there, a sun worshiper. I love being

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01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: out there, but I'm not out there enough, even though

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01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: because of my skins, we have a giant battery in

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01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: the sky and early any of us use it. Yeah,

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: I love that all right. Third question, what would you

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01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: describe as your current purpose to read and write, learn

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01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: and teach, seeing and speak, compete and create in full

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: presence and selfless love to the glory of God. Beautiful?

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Speaker 1: I love that, right. Question On before what is the

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Speaker 1: first thing you do in the morning and the last

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: thing you do before you go to bed. I walk

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Speaker 1: over to the sink and I scraped my tongue from

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Speaker 1: the back to the front using a copper tongue scraping tool. Yeah. Irabetic.

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Speaker 1: At the very end of the day, Yeah, very end,

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01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: very very last, very last thing. Yeah, very last thing.

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: I put my arm around my wife and I say

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: a prayer with her. That's beautiful. I love that. Man,

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01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: that's amazing. That's great. Oh yeah, we use my wife

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01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: say I raved it. That's all you know. Yeah, but

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: that's our world, all right. Fifth and final question. If

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01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: you could create a law that everyone in the world

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01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: had to follow, what would it be? Every day write

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: down the name of one person who you are going

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01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 1: to help, and then go help them on that day. Beautiful?

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01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: Actually I actually do that every morning. I love that.

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 1: Super meaningful. Thank you, Ben, everyone has been listening on watching.

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. I really appreciate all

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01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: of you. Make sure you go and grab a copy

1444
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: of the book Boundless and Boundless Cookbook that's out as well.

1445
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: We'll put the links in all of our captions. Ben,

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing this. I think you shit.

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there are countless parts of this episode that

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01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to use in my own life. I'm gonna

1449
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: go home and tell my wife's straight away to switch

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01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: us from sixty that's gonna change. We're going to be

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: getting a few more changes in our bedroom, I think

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01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: based on this episode. Now, yeah, I love it so

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01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: thank you and everyone's been listening watching. Make sure you

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: tag me and Ben on Instagram to let us know

1455
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: what resonated with you, what stuck out to you, and

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: what you're gonna experiment with. That's my hope. My hope

1457
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: is that this episode gives you a whole new list

1458
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 1: of tools to experiment with and try out to see

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: what works for you. And of course Ben's books are

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: a great guide. They truly are a guidebook and a

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01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: map into some of the depths of all of this.

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01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: We've just scratched the surface. If you want a full

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: proof plan of how to practice this the bound, this

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01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: book is going to help you do that. So Ben,

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01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: thank you for being here. Thank you, mister Jay Shetty,

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: Thank you Mann. If you want even more videos just

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